Girls Gotta Eat - Can You Fix a F*ckboy? with Nikki Glaser

Episode Date: August 8, 2022

We have one of our favorite guests back discussing one of your favorite topics -- Nikki Glaser on fuckboys. The hilarious comedian and host of FBoy Island on HBO Max is spilling tea on the show, answe...ring our (and your) burning questions, and tackling the age-old question: Can you fix a fuckboy? Nikki also opens up about her relationship, and we're deep diving on the topics of getting back with an ex and setting boundaries for self-preservation. Before she joins us, we're sharing a recent story about liking the same guy (a rare occasion!), and we have all kinds of recs from movies to books to Instagram accounts. Enjoy! Follow Nikki on Instagram @nikkiglaser, watch FBoy Island and Good Clean Filth on HBO Max, and check out The Nikki Glaser Podcast. Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit our website for tour dates, merchandise, and more. Shop Vibes Only. Thank you to our partners this week: Beis: Visit beistravel.com/gge to get 15% off your first purchase. Athletic Greens: Go to athleticgreens.com/gge to get a free 1-year supply of immune-supporting Vitamin D + 5 free travel packs with your first purchase. Native: Get 20% off your first purchase at nativedeo.com/ggedeo or use promo code GGEDEO at checkout. Daily Harvest: Get up to $40 off your first box at dailyharvest.com/gge. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 These guys who just all they do is care about their looks and their Instagram followers and the smashing puss and clubbing and cars and protein powders. These guys are desperate to talk to someone about how they're feeling. Back to another episode of Girls Gotta Eat. Welcome back. We have a new Beyonce album. I know. We have been blessed.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Have you listened? I have listened. I listened. So you took a Beyonce walk. Yes. As soon as it came out. As soon as it came out, I mean, I guess it came out at midnight. But I, you know, I woke up and I did my walk.
Starting point is 00:00:46 around Montreal. You did Beyonce walk. And I felt like I was missing out. So then as soon as I started getting ready, I was hung over. I put it on. And you just got to listen back to back to back. Yes. I was right at the beginning and went through it. It's definitely different. I mean, it's definitely not my favorite Beyonce album. It's probably not even top three, honestly. But I just respect that she's doing what she wants to do. She's the queen. She can do whatever she wants. It feels like she's experimenting. It feels less curated than past albums. Like it almost feels chaotic in the best way. And I, I, I love to see it. If anyone can respect that and try new things, it's us. And, you know, I'm coming around to it more and more as I listen to it. Like, I didn't even love break my soul at first.
Starting point is 00:01:25 And now I love it. The first time I heard it, we, I mean, we talked about this in the show. You were like, you, I don't know what this is. And I was like, I can't believe she does us. And now I'm obsessed. No. I was like, this is sampling 90s house. And I didn't see this coming. I knew exactly what it was. I knew it was Robin S, show me love. I was just like, this is not what I expected for Beyonce. I just don't need like a house album from her. But then I read. really came around to it. I was like, this is a song we didn't know we needed. Ashley said that the world started to fall apart. Yeah, I was like, she knew we needed this. It's like, we're all just crying singing like, you won't break my soul.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Played it at the show. Yeah. And I just, I don't know if you guys know this about me. I've probably said it before. Is that the shade room is my favorite Instagram account that exists. And so there's just been, they're covering everything, Beyonce. Like, the people in the shade room comments are A, the most hilarious people on the internet. Be the most rational. Like, I was talking to friends and I was like, if something happens, I go to the shade room to see what people are saying. And I'm almost always like these people get it. And my friend was like, the shade room comment section is my arbiter of rationale. It feels less mean and it's funnier.
Starting point is 00:02:28 It's less mean. It's funnier. It gives me hope for humanity. Like the level of like just rational comments. But there's so, like there's no better place on the internet than the shade room comment section. And don't ruin it. If you're listening to this.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Actually, if you're 22, your name is Alexis and you're white, don't go there. I don't ruin the shape. I don't comment. It's really not my space. I just, I'm there. Like, I like a lot and I like comments, but I'm like, they don't need me. You're like that meme is the girl was peeking around the corner. They don't need this white girl named Ashley in their comments.
Starting point is 00:02:58 But I just wanted everybody to feel supported. I will go through and like like 10 comments. You like comments? Of course I like comments. This verified account hundreds of thousands of followers like their comment. That is so funny. I'm still holding down my corner of the internet, which is trolling Tristan Thompson. I don't do anything else.
Starting point is 00:03:17 sleep comments. I was DMing with comments by celebs. I was like, they're talking to me. And they said something funny. Like if you want a great workout, just read like the comment, read like Tristan Thompson information on the internet and you'll like work out so hard. And I was like, I've never related. Oh, she gives you get mad or anything. Yeah. You're fueled. Just up top, we will tell you about vibes only, which is our other company. It is our sex to a company and Bluetooth connected app. We have such a big announcement. I feel like I'm going to cry. You guys, the Raina is here. It is ready to ship out. You can go to the website. go to vibesonly.com. This is the greatest orgasm you are ever going to have. It is a dual-ended
Starting point is 00:03:52 vibrator. It has a clit-sucker on one. It is a vibra on the other. And you can bend it. You can put inside you. It's a great partner tool. It is our number one seller. It's sold out immediately. Immediately. This sold out in like a week. Yes. Every person that's gotten it has been like, I've never come this hard. I've squirted it for the first time. I haven't left the house in 14 years. Yeah. She named her daughter, Raina. We're just so proud of this. I have never seen a toy like this. I have a drawer full of sex toys. We have never seen anything like this. It is so special. Every person who's used just lost their mind. So we think it's going to sell out really quickly. We have limited quantities. So go to the website, Vivesonly.com, grab the rena, grab the new
Starting point is 00:04:27 blowjob gels we haven't stopped. There's a mango flavor. There's a lube. We have another flavor coming as well. It's going to be vanilla frosting for the blow gel. Get the Ashley, get the Gigi. We have an unbelievable product line. You guys are going to love it. Yes. Yes. Get the reno. We both love it so much, obviously. But listen, Ashley is still holding it down, strong and steady. People are out here telling me about the orgasms every single day. I use it every single day. I don't leave home without it. And that's incredible too. So get them all, honestly. At least get the Ashley and the Raina at this point. But we love them all. And then we mentioned vanilla frosting. It is going to be just a couple weeks. So the vanilla frosting blow jelly is coming soon. We'll keep you guys updated. And of course we have this app. So your vibes only vibrators pair to the app via Bluetooth really easy. And you get in there and you can listen to these erotic stories, experiences. And then your vibrator pairs to it. So it kind of goes along with the story. So it goes up.
Starting point is 00:05:19 It goes down. It rumbles. They do the work for you. And they really get you off like nothing before. And we just have so many incredible stories. This new BDSM series. It's there. Part one is in there.
Starting point is 00:05:28 The affair part one is in there. And then new. As of last week, the stepbrother is back. It is dirty. I mean, just because you know it's your stepbrother. And so that one's great. And there's just so much more coming soon. We are going to have the flight delay.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Part two is going to be coming soon. We have an upcoming salsa instructor, a little dirty dancing. And of course there is this video component. Raina can tell you about. Oh, yeah, there's a whole library of videos, all sex dating relationship content, stuff that's a little naughty for the internet. We put on our app, tons of former guests are on there telling you about how to date better, fuck better. Ashley and I are on there. Ashley has a great one on there about how to sext really well.
Starting point is 00:06:11 It's so fun. I have one on there about giving better blow jobs. It's just a really fun library. videos. So the app has a three-day free trial if you want to try that in the app store. We're working on Android, of course. And in the meantime, sign up. They pair really well together. You don't need the toys for the app or the app for the toys, but they work together perfectly. Yeah. So speaking of people that are in the app, I just wanted to throw out a plug from one of our former guests. You guys absolutely loved her episode. Her name is Logan Yuri. She is a data scientist.
Starting point is 00:06:40 She is a director of relationship scientist at Hinge. So she teaches courses. You can sign up for them. It's called Propel. It's a live application-only online dating course. It's designed to help you jumpstart your dating life in two weeks. She is so smart. She's so great to listen to. She wrote a book called How to Not Die Alone, which I loved. We loved her episode. There's a limited number of slots, but she basically talks to you if you're sick of dating, you're ready for a long-term relationship, if you feel stuck in your dating life, if you want sort of more tried and true methods for dating. So you guys can go to her website and sign up. Applications are now open and then they close on Friday the 12th and she is an info session tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:07:18 which is Tuesday at her website. Logan Yuri.com. Yeah. So hop on Logan Yuri.com. See what this is all about. We really trust her and recommend her. So she's great. And yeah, we just got back from Montreal.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Yes, we were Montreal for JFL, Just for Laps. It was our 40th anniversary. We were so honored to be there and be included and just had, you know, three full days of hanging out with our comedian friends and we had an incredible show. The strippers went totally rogue. They were wild. Our friends were there. And it was just like a really fun time.
Starting point is 00:07:49 So yeah, I don't really have much else to say about J.FEL. I walked into the hotel lobby with Ashley. We're like checking in. I slept with somebody a few years ago when I was there, like three years ago. And we've never like talked after that. We just slept together. And that was it. That was the end of the experience.
Starting point is 00:08:04 So we've never like spoken since then. And I was like, I wonder if he's going to be there. I want to see him if he's going to remember me. We like, fucked at two o'clock in the morning, blacked out. And we walked into the lobby and Ashley was like Pranning is standing behind you? And I was so nervous.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I was like, how I'm gonna say, is he to recognize me? Like, so then I started like drawing a lot of attention to myself and like laughing too hard with like the front-ass guy. And he like came up and like hugged me and was like so nice and joking around. He's so nice. He's so hot.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Yeah. I was like, I can't believe he's just right here. It's really the most fun experience because it's this summer camp for comedians and we're all like in the same hotel and you just see like every day. On our show we had special. guest, our friend Marcello, he opened the show, he brought us out, and then we had Chris DeStefano and
Starting point is 00:08:45 Mateo Lane. But it's so fun to just be running around Montreal. It's all kind of in this like one main area and then we're in the hotel. And so we're just like running to people every morning in the lobby. There was like after parties at night, really fun after party in the last night. It's just, it's so fun. It truly feels like what I would go when I was younger and I would go to like a basketball camp. I felt like such a fish out of water because I sucked at basketball and everyone was like, felt like they were in on something. They knew each other. And I just was like, I hate this. I hate being here. I can't. But my parents did this to me. And it feels like I'm finally, I finally fit in. These are like my people. Yes. I'm like part of the cool kids. It really was fun. That's it. I mean, it's our last show for a while. We have a lot of shows coming together, getting lined out. We talk to our agents days. We're excited to announce that to you guys when they're ready. But in the meantime, if you came out, thanks guys. It was fun. So we fly back from JFL or we're in the Montreal airport. And we are going through like customs.
Starting point is 00:09:40 like we'd already checked in and we had to go through like passport control. And you guys know, you know what it's like to travel. So I'm like in the line. We'd been waiting in line, maybe like 10 minutes and then the next agent calls me up to the desk to look at my passport before we could go through and go to our gate. And he checks my passport. And he was like, are you know, what are you here for? And I'm like, he's pretty hot. He's this bald guy. I get a glimpse of his tattoos. And then he was like, are you here for work or for vacation? I was like work. I was here for the Just for Laughs Festival. And he was like, what do you do?
Starting point is 00:10:13 I was like, I'm a comedian. And he is like, looking at me. And he was like, well, can I ask you something? I was like, okay. I'm like, am I in trouble? You know, like, this isn't one of those situations. It's like the cops. And so he was like, are you on Instagram?
Starting point is 00:10:26 I was like, what? So let me just tell you what's happening from my point of view at this point. Ashley and I get separated. I go through another line. I'm talking to this other border control cop. And he is also like telling jokes to me. And I'm like, is this even allowed? I'm like, that was weird.
Starting point is 00:10:41 So I walk through and I'm waiting for Ashley. This is taking like a long time. And I look over and they're just like yucking it up. And I start filming it. I'm like, I don't even know if I'm allowed to do this. Raina, first of all, she cock-blocked me. She's swooped in. I really was involved in head tattoos.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Yeah. Like I was hitting it off with this guy. He was like, what's your podcast? He's looking up on the work computer. I'm like, is this even allowed? Are you looking this up on the place where you scan the passports? And finally, Raina comes over. Then he's talking to both of us.
Starting point is 00:11:10 And then we were telling about our show. And then I showed him the video of the stripper picking me up. And I was like, I have a handcuffs on this where I'm not participating. And I realized that we're there for like 15 minutes. And I'm like, is this legal? Like he's not, there's a hundred people in line. Like there's people in line. He was like, I'm almost, you know, up here in Montreal.
Starting point is 00:11:28 It's like part of my tour. And I was like, oh, you're on tour too. Like, you get it. And we were like joking about being on tour. I guess because it's a military thing. I don't know anything about it. But he lives in Tampa. And I was like, well, you know, Raina loves the guy from Tampa.
Starting point is 00:11:40 And I was like, I was really into the security guard when we were in Tampa last time, Border Control, Chris. It was just funny that he really honed in on me and Raina was like, oh, hell no, a bald tattooed bouncer. Security guard. Passport bouncer. He didn't know about me yet, okay? And so I had to go over and make myself known. You've been getting a lot of attention lately. And I would like some.
Starting point is 00:12:02 He has not followed. I don't know if he's been listening. I'm listening. Chris, if you're listening to reach out. I try to find him on the dinner. There was a point where I was like, are we allowed to, where's his boss? At no point, there weren't that many border control agents there. There was maybe like five for like probably literally 80 people in line and we're just yucking it up on the internet.
Starting point is 00:12:23 He had no sense of urgency to keep it moving. He was like, I'm going to look around. I think we exited the situation before he even asked us to. We could have stood there all day. When he started to look up the podcast on like on his work computer. The official government computer. The place where they make sure you're not a terrorist, he's like, let me Google this podcast.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I don't know. I did check a lot to see if he DM'd me. I looked him up and I couldn't find him. Because we did know his last name. We're not going to say. We're not going to put him on blast. No. He'd fired.
Starting point is 00:12:53 His last name was hot too. It was hot and it was like not as common. So Chris, Border Control, Chris, if you're like saying. Border Control the right term. What would it be? Passport control. Isn't that the same thing? Like the signs say border control when you land.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Okay. Yeah, maybe. Well, Chris, DM us and set us straight. Yeah, if you're listening. Let us know what, what title you prefer. Yeah. Let us know what to yell out in bed.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I think I read better when I'm drunk because I don't think about it. When you're drunk? I think that I just don't think I'm going to... So when I read out loud... When are you reading drunk? I can't pick a time, but I feel like sober me is like, I'm going to fuck this up. I'm going to fuck this up. In high school, when the teacher called on you to read out loud, did you love it?
Starting point is 00:13:32 Do you have any feelings about it? Loved it. I was like, I'm the best reader in this town. In this town. Well, you know, I'm like, I was just a little. reading chapter books at six, six years, first grade chapter books. Like, my teachers were blown away. They couldn't, like, put me in the, they didn't even know what to do. They didn't even know what to do with me. Like, I won spelling bees. I was like this, also my mom was a librarian, but I, yeah,
Starting point is 00:13:56 I was the sickest reader that's ever, Smyrna, Delaware's ever seen. So, of course, and I love attention. So reading out loud in class, nothing got me wetter than reading out loud in class. You know what's kind of probably because I skip school a lot. That's why I can't read. Good. I love this segue, because I have a book wreck. Oh, yes. Well, first of all, I had finished a book that I do like called Funny You Should Ask by Alyssa Sussman.
Starting point is 00:14:19 So I do like that book. I'm not like, this is the best book I've ever read. But I finished it and that says a lot. I don't read books that I'm not enjoying. So I really did like it. It's actually loosely based on an article that was written about Chris Evans from the journalist standpoint. So anyway, but Becca Freeman, who we love and has been on the show a long, long time ago,
Starting point is 00:14:35 and has the bat on paper podcast, which she used to do with Grace Atwood, but now she does it with another co-host. but she's my book guru. So we have the same taste. And so anything she recommends, I buy it. I scan her Instagram and I buy what she says. So I basically was like I finished, funny, you should ask, what's next?
Starting point is 00:14:51 Like what's like a book that I'm missing that I haven't read? And she said every summer after. And I was like, say less. I ordered it immediately. Like someone tells me a book wreck I ordered immediately. You know I like was at like the bookstore one day and I was just like live vlogging? Like what about this one? What about this?
Starting point is 00:15:04 And she's just great. Whatever she recommends is great. I love it. So I posted. I had three books. And I was like, which one should I start next. One of them was every summer after. Every single person was like, bitch, if you don't start every summer after, I was like, okay, say less. So I mean, I picked it up.
Starting point is 00:15:16 I read it in, I mean, most of it in like a day. And then we went to Montreal. And so I've just finished it a couple days ago. But it's this love story. This girl in the sky they meet when they're like 13 and then it's when they're 30 and that goes back and forth. So like the first summer they meet then to like current times in the second summer, current times it goes back and forth. It takes place at the lake outside of Toronto. You know, it's funny because when we're in Toronto, everyone was talking about cottages and like everyone has cottages outside of Toronto. It's like the beach house of Toronto and it takes place like a cottage on the lake. And I just loved it.
Starting point is 00:15:47 I couldn't put it down and I can't recommend enough. So every summer after Carly Fortune is author and it is her debut book. I'm like, way to come out strong. Debate. Yeah. So it's New York Times best seller. Anyway, that's if you're into like fiction and any sort of romance, but I will say that I am been reading a little too much romance, reading a little too much love story.
Starting point is 00:16:07 and I'm going to kind of take a break. We were talking about, sometimes it just gets too much in your brain and you're like, I want that and it's not real. You know, like, I've been with the sex content on the app and doing all of that and still editing that with the romance. It's just been a lot. I'm consumed by like love and sex, which is fine.
Starting point is 00:16:25 But I just, I need to take, like, Bella, we were talking with Belle Bella, and she was like, I feel you on that and I will like read a crime next. Like, I'll read like a murder book next. I'm like, that's what I need. I need men doing terrible things after the love. love stories. My brain is kind of getting a little too much romance in there. That is the perfect segue into my recommendations. Terrible things men do. I have two
Starting point is 00:16:45 great racks out on Netflix right now. One is feel bad and one is feel good. So you can just ebb and flow. You can edge yourself. One is a docu series, three episodes. It's called The Most Hated Man on the Internet. It's about this website called Is Anyone Up. I don't know if you guys remember. It was from around 2012. This guy Hunter Moore started this revenge porn website and people were sending in photos of their girlfriends, their ex-boyfriends, he was posting their information online with the photos. So names, phone numbers, addresses, Facebook information.
Starting point is 00:17:14 I mean, I have like full-body chills just thinking about how sick and terrible this is. And it's an interesting story just about revenge porn, but also this woman's daughter was posted on the show and she's just like a stay-at-home mom from California and she was like, fuck this, I'm going to take him down. And it's like her story like going after him, getting the FBI involved. it's this incredible story of this, like, woman who was just like, you can't do this to my child.
Starting point is 00:17:37 And so it's three-part episode. It'll get you really fire it up. It's pretty crazy. And then the other one to make you guys feel good on Netflix, another series called Street Food. Really great. They pick, I think, six cities in the United States, and then also Hawaii. So it's like Portland, New York, L.A. Just Street Food.
Starting point is 00:17:53 They pick somebody to focus on in every city. And then the street food out. It's really, like, feel good. It's nice on a plane. My favorite episodes are Miami, Portland. Start with Miami and Portland. Those are my favorites. I love that.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And then I watched Twilight. The first one? I have never seen Twilight in my life. I told Ashley I was going to check it out. The way that you looked at me, I told you I'd never seen a Twilight movie. The Twilight first movie is so good. Did you love it? I liked it.
Starting point is 00:18:24 I'm still Harry Potter camp, but I feel like this is part of like the cultural lexicon. I have never been able to participate in. Well, so much of it is just, the tension between them, like the science class scenes. Like, to me, like, it was just, again, I got to take a step back from this stuff. It's too much, too much romance,
Starting point is 00:18:43 too many unrealistic love stories in my life right now, filling my brain. But that was the best part. Like, will they, won't they? Her trying to figure it out, him saving her from the car wreck. Like, I fucking love it. Anna Kendrick. Like, I just, she's a...
Starting point is 00:18:56 I didn't know she was in it. That was surprise for me. And then, oh my God, when, like, when they're in that, like, other town and, like, she goes to dinner with them. And also, like, the same. soundtrack is incredible. I used to listen to the soundtrack on repeat. And I have seen them all. I've read most of the books. I can't remember what I've done with that. Actually, I think I kind of threw in the towel, but watch the movies. But like, I like, I like, I've seen them all. I've seen them all. Nothing compares to that first twilight. Well, I got the first one out of the way. I did it. Did you like? Well, you know what's funny? I liked it. I didn't love it. I was just the whole time I was like, this is so angsty. I just, like, relax. But like, then I was like, in my mind, I was like talking shit. And I was just the whole time. I was. I was like, I was like, talk and shit. I was. And I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, like Harry Potter is so much better.
Starting point is 00:19:35 It's like a bunch of wizards and a castle. Like that like both things are just boring. Why do we need to pit them against each other? Everybody's one or the other. I'm Harry Potter. I think people like both. But I feel like I'm so glad I finally had this milestone in my life because it's been a deficit forever.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I've never known any of the memes meant. I'm going to put this on after this before myself a nice glass of red. One movie I watched, I was with my family in Delaware. I really just love watching TV and movies with my mom sitting in the couch. It's like this weird thing. of like reminds me a quarantine, which was this like bonding experience.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Like I love eating ice cream and watching Netflix with my mom in the couch. It's like my favorite thing to do. I'm jealous of the experience. I want to calm. So anytime you go without me, you're like, I'm just going to go. You guys understand. We landed from Montreal. We just did a festival for three days.
Starting point is 00:20:21 We'd been up until three o'clock in the morning every night. We landed and actually drove straight together. Yeah, I was like, how am I doing this? But I went to see a house that I just wasn't a fit and then just spent all the time with my family. But persuasion on. Netflix based on a Jane Austen novel. Dakota Johnson's the lead. It's a love story.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Again, I'm trying to cut back. But it's, and they do it in a humorous way. She talks to the camera straight up, like Carrie Bradshaw pilot for Sex and the City. And I love her. Huge Dakota Johnson fan. I think it's good. It's fine. It's like, you probably know what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:20:55 It's a lot of that will they won't they. angsty, like star cross lovers. Old timey, if you like Bridgeton, you'll like it. I watch the preview. and I was no doubt my mind I would like it. Even the preview on Netflix is like so cute. I love your quote Johnson so much. It's just an easy watch.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Yeah. But listen, again, need to get back to men doing terrible things. The most hate to men on the internet. Doing terrible things. So let's talk about fuck boys. Oh yeah. Okay. We have Nikki on today.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Raina, I've been a big question for you. Fuck boy island. Do you think New York City is the original fuck boy island? Yeah, they base the whole show off of it. What is the, What is actually Fuck Boy Island? It's literally the island we live on. Tell me I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:21:40 No, I feel like he based the show on this. There was that meme that was like, can we just take all these trash guys and put them on an island? And we're like, we live on that island. They did that. It's called New York. They literally did that. But we have Nikki on today and we're talking about the show and her and catching up on her getting back with her ex, which she's just very open with us. as she always is. We love it.
Starting point is 00:22:03 So before we jump in, we wanted today's theme. Of course, we fuck boys. So we asked you guys finish this sentence. I knew he was a fuck boy when. And you guys, this might be one of my favorite questions. What people wrote was so funny. So do you want to kick it off? Oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I knew he was a fuck boy when, quote, unquote, there's makeup wipes and face wash under the sink, him thinking he's a good host. We're not going to analyze all these. We don't have the time. But this one, it goes either way because it's something Rob would do probably because he's just like a good host. But like this guy, those are some other girls. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I feel like this could. This one could go either way. The next ones will bring you back. I was losing my virginity to him and he told me to arch my back more. Oh, my. He's like, if I could enjoy this more, please. It makes me upset. I know.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Well, you know the guy that I lost in Virginia who made me be on top. Losing your Virginia on top is insane. I'm an icon. Oh, I can't be stopped. He told me he didn't have Instagram, but I found it in 0.5 seconds. I mean, run. Like, just blatant lie. Like, you, what's the point?
Starting point is 00:23:08 He can take a better mirror selfie than me. I don't want it. If I go to someone's Instagram, it is more than one. I don't even want one. Yeah. Half of my page is mirror selfies. I don't want it on you. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Like, that's the same. It's like, I don't have tattoos, but if I'm going to date a guy, he better have them. Yeah, exactly. It's my hypocritical toxic trait. Hooked up with me, and then six hours later takes another girl to his friend's wedding. Oh, my gosh. He still had a snap. at 32 years old.
Starting point is 00:23:32 I fucked that guy. Only had Snapchat at 32. She just says he still had Snapchat at 32. Is that weird? As somebody who never released Snapchat, I don't know how to answer this. I don't think it's always a huge red flag, but I'm telling you that like I fucked a guy that was 32 and only had Snapchat. No other social.
Starting point is 00:23:53 That feels weird. It feels really weird. Yeah. He brought me a flower that he definitely just picked out on my neighbor's yard. Listen, kind of funny. It's giving Zach Morris. I feel like my boyfriend when I was 22 would do that
Starting point is 00:24:02 because we didn't have any money. I think Zach Morris actually did that with Kelly. He walked into my apartment swiping on a dating. But are you guys dating? Also, I feel like I would do that accidentally. Just because you're bored? Yes, I feel like I would just be on looking at Ryan
Starting point is 00:24:19 and be like, oh, fuck, I forgot I'm on a date. Be honest, how many people are on a date? Your date goes to the bathroom and you pick up a dating out. I did it last week. Tons of people do this. I did it last week. Okay, so if it's fuck girl behavior also,
Starting point is 00:24:29 I think it's okay. But if someone's picking up for a day, they walk in swiping, they're an asshole and they want you to know. I'm talking like, you know, we have some downtime and I pulled that out because it was natural. Well, my question is why would you know that? Like, why is this person allowed you to know that? I have a girlfriend who was like away with this guy for the weekend and she said his dating app stuff kept popping up. And then she said, I said something to him about it because it was like uncomfortable. Like she's like, I don't think I'm the only girl in his life, but like put your phone away. I know.
Starting point is 00:24:54 He was like he just left it out the whole time. No. On the table. Away for the weekend means that there is, there's, there's. there's something more serious there. If I'm on a date with somebody, a first date, and we met on an app, and I see a notification pop up of an app,
Starting point is 00:25:07 that's fine. I didn't expect you to change your notification settings for this first date, but we're on a weekend together. Turn them off. Yeah. If you have allowed me to see that, it feels on purpose.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Like the first one, accident, oh my God, I'm embarrassed. Then get in there and fix your settings. I don't, it's rude. Especially if I have to say something to you about it. Yeah. I'm all sad. I'm not fixing it.
Starting point is 00:25:26 So, yeah, that's shitty. That sucks. He told me he wanted to get back together and then started messaging my friends on Hinge. He asked me how much money I made and told me I was at the poverty level. And then she says, I made $70,000 a year. That's just somebody that just, like, wants to flex about how successful they are. It's insane to like.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Yeah. I knew he was a fuck boy because I tested positive for chlamydia. I'm sorry, girl. Started dating the girl. He told me not to worry about. The last guy I dated was never worried about anybody. I guess I'm not enough of a fuck girl. A lot about his grandparents dying and needing space.
Starting point is 00:26:02 He was actually going on Tinder dates. Yikes. He made me park my car in his garage so no one would know I was at his house to hook up. That's crazy. If somebody's making you hide your car. Don't do it. Don't go there. Unless you were like, that's what you sign up for.
Starting point is 00:26:16 And you're like, it's a secret. And I'm down with that. But no. We probably have a story for that in the app. He told me he was in love of me and then he said it was a joke the next day. What? He saw me out when he was with his family and pretended like he didn't know who I was.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Oh my God. That like hurts. I felt that one. Like I did that to me in college. It like really hurt my feelings. Yeah. This is crazy, disgusting behavior. He posed me on his story, but I couldn't see it. I said, so how long have I been blocked? Why did he block her? So that he like, she wouldn't see like what he was doing. And then the last one I left an earring in his apartment and asked him for it back. He gave me another girl's earrings. That is crazy. All right. I'll round it out. He made out with another girl in front of me. Yeah, that'll do it. He saved my contact under Baby, because he doesn't know your name.
Starting point is 00:27:01 He pulled out his... Oh, this makes me sick. He pulled out his phone, flash on to video me giving him head. I mean, if you haven't consented to that, this is like such a violation. Are you fucking serious? When I first moved to New York, I was 22, and some guy was like fucking me from behind, and he pulled out the flashlight on his phone. And I got out of there so quickly.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I am ruining your life. Yes. I am calling my brother. I'm putting you on the internet. you're, this is, it's over for you. And I remember being like so embarrassed. I was like too young to even like know what that fuck to do. But yeah, get the fuck out of there.
Starting point is 00:27:34 My name and his phone was Katie Blonde Short. How many people do you think I'm in their phone is wearing a blonde short? But like we do this too. I don't think that's so fuck boy. I think sometimes also like we just meet a lot of people on dating apps. Yeah. And I think it's one of those funny things if you end up like getting married, you keep it. Like that's very funny.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Also blonde and short is not derogatory. There's so many Katie's out there too. Okay. He said condoms don't fit him. Okay. There are condoms out there for everybody. I'm just going to say it. Even the bartenders were telling me not to waste my time. Yeah. If you have like service industry people telling you, like don't do it, girl. As this former service industry person who has no, had no morals my whole time, if they're telling you. They're telling you, yes. He had those Navy sheets.
Starting point is 00:28:16 And lastly, he goes to any SEC school, period, end of story. I love it. As an ACC girl, fuck any guy who went to an SEC school. Navy sheets. My dad has Navy sheets. You know what? I'm going to add one in if he has. If he has anything in his apartment, this is Saturdays are for the boys. My dad is that too. He's 75. That's over the TV. No, but he probably, my dad gives Saturday his for the boys energy. Okay, time for Nikki. Okay, guys, we are so excited to welcome back a repeat guest to the show. We are so happy to have her. She is a stand-up comedian, an actress, a podcast host, a radio host,
Starting point is 00:28:56 television host. You've seen her on the Comedy Central Roast, multiple specials on Netflix and HBO, on Dancing with the Stars. She is the star of the reality show. Welcome home, Nikki Glazer on E. She's the host of multiple seasons of F Boy Island. Please welcome to the show
Starting point is 00:29:12 Nicole Renee Glazer. Finally, someone gets it right. All these years. Hello, Nicole. Yeah, that's my real name. Can your next special be called Nicole Renee? I think it should be. I literally wrote my mom yesterday saying,
Starting point is 00:29:30 why did you do this to me? Because everything, all my IDs have Nicole Renee Glazer on them. You know, Renee is my middle name, but it's Nicole Glazer. And it's always a pain in the ass. And I've never once in my life been called Nicole, not even once.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Not even, not even. By my mom when she's like mad at me. It's never been used. And I asked her this weekend, I go, why did you do this? And I think they just thought I might not want to be a stripper. If I wanted to be a barrister or something, I don't know. My mom does that a dream of me not being,
Starting point is 00:30:05 Nikki was always her goal, but you just can't, you can't put that on a birth certificate. So yeah, do you guys have longer, Ashley and Raina? No, those are just your names. And I'm so jealous of people to get nicknames. Like, I don't have, nobody free people in life, call me Ray. Rai, Nonna. Nonna.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Nonna. Nobody calls me Nana, except for in the bedroom. My mom calls me Rainy, but only when she's really not mad at me. I know. I'm so jealous of people who have nicknames. Well, something happened. This happened in college.
Starting point is 00:30:36 My middle name is Joy. And it's Ashley Joy. But somehow along the lines in this step, it got turned to Joe. AJ? No, like it was Ashley Joe, which just sounds country. And I can't with like a double name. So there was a couple times in college when they were doing roll call and they were like Ashley Joe.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Joe and I was like, oh my God. And I went to school in the South, so people just assumed it was like Ashley Joe, Ashley Joe. Mortifying. But like a lot of people did stuff with Heseltine. That's like a lot in the games, which I feel like you sometimes say Glaze dog and I'm like, yes. I call myself that. I really want that to catch on.
Starting point is 00:31:12 It's just like so not my vibe. I feel like your ex or whatever he is. He, I feel like he called you that. He calls me Glaze. But I actually, I recently was like, can you not do that because it's too buddy, buddy. Like he thinks it's endearing thing. And I do like it. Like, it's...
Starting point is 00:31:26 It feels platonic. It feels platonic. And he's like, but I thought you liked it. And I'm like, I do. But it sometimes feels, I want you, can you just try babe? Because I call him babe. I love a babe. And he's not going for the babe.
Starting point is 00:31:41 He just says glaze. And he's trying to break himself with the habit because he knows it like kind of doesn't turn me on that much. Yeah. But it's, it is sweet. And, yeah. And I don't know. I just, I feel.
Starting point is 00:31:54 like I just have to pick my battles. And that's one. I'm like, he's just, he's not doing it to be mean. It might make me feel a little bit like a bud, but in other other way, he does not make me feel like a bud. I think it breeds familiarity and that's what he's going for. I mean, I'll think that's out of a bro. Anything besides bro. Dude. My last two exes never had any nicknames for me. And I think that's because they're not creative to come up with one. I was always really disappointed than that. Have you ever longed for like a babe or a baby or like a- Everybody calls me that, but I'm a foot shorter than you guys. I love it.
Starting point is 00:32:25 But a boy. Yeah. Boys always call me being. Like a boyfriend. Yeah. Everybody calls me that. But I'm little. People are just like,
Starting point is 00:32:31 she looks like a baby. Oh, well, that seems nice too. I think that's maybe why I want it too, because I'm tall. And so I've never been like, I'm a little.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Like, my boyfriend's shorter than me. And I've always wanted to be a widow baby. So, okay, let's just catch up on your life. And I am dying to know where you guys stand. This is like your longtime ex.
Starting point is 00:32:48 If you guys watched Nikki Show an E. You saw him. And so I, I saw him recently in your Instagram story. Yes. So I'm just, we got to know. Yeah. So if you would have asked me a week and a half ago, I would have said we are broken up.
Starting point is 00:33:00 But as of now, we are so good. And I think it was our last breakup ever. I really do. And we've broken up so many times in nine years since we started dating in April of 20, you know, what, 13. And so, yeah, I think it's our last, like I just, as embarrassing as it is because we break up and get back together. We broke up, though, for five years in that nine years. Like, we were solidly not together. And we would maybe sleep together as friends.
Starting point is 00:33:27 And then I would always catch feelings for him again because his penis would go inside me and that's how women work. And I would start being in love with him again. And he would be like, but I thought this was not what we wanted. And I'd be like, I don't know what I want. And then I'd get heartbroken. And then so when we started dating again, I was living in St. Louis. He also moved back to St. Louis totally for separate reasons.
Starting point is 00:33:45 And we didn't even meet in St. Louis. We met in New York. We both just happened to be from here. And I moved back to. because of the pandemic, he moved back for a radio job. And he's always worked in TV behind the scenes, but he got a job on radio. And he's on the number one, like, radio show in St. Louis. And we just started hanging out as friends again.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And I was kind of like, I don't really want to be friends with you because I just long to touch him every time I was around him. And then I kind of was like, I want to hook up again. And he was like, I just don't think that's a good idea. And then some time passed, I met someone else. I kind of had this, like, romance that was like very short-lived, but very intense and kind of like taught me what I want in a relationship and what I deserve. And I already knew he wasn't able to give me that based on our relationship in the past. So I knew he was like not the person
Starting point is 00:34:27 for me at that time. And so I really was solidly like, I can hook up with you again. As long as we don't have sex, I can probably hook up with you again and not get attached because I know what I want in a relationship and it's not what you can give me. And I can't give you what you need. But we were both in St. Louis. There's not really good dating here. We both have a great physical connection. So we started hooking up casually, but no sex, no PNV, but everything else, pretty much, because I was trying to protect my heart. And it really worked to make us, like, connect on this new level that was not, there was something about not being able to do that that made us, like, long for each other in this weird way and really built this affection and, like, love for each other that was just,
Starting point is 00:35:08 it was, I mean, it was like Mormon-y, you know, like, we just were so into each other. And we, this one thing, we couldn't do. Yeah, we were soaking. We weren't, we weren't even soaking. We didn't even get that far where the friends jump on the bed so God doesn't get mad at you. It was just there. And the thing is, I always thought that technique of not sleeping with the guy was almost like, he's got, he's dying to know what your vagina feels like and he'll just do anything to like get in there.
Starting point is 00:35:33 This guy has been in there before. So it wasn't like I like had something we put in new walls or something new flooring. It's the same. If anything, it's gotten worse. But there was something about, I said to him, the next person I have in there is someone who I see as my husband. And that is not an insult to you because you and I don't want to be that. Like, we just want to hook up. And I just can't have anyone in there that I don't see.
Starting point is 00:35:58 That's my husband hole. I told them. The way you're talking about it is. It's renovated home. It is like, yeah. Like you're checking into an Airbnb. Like, I just can't have someone in here right now. No, I just, it's just too stressful.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I haven't cleaned in so long. It's like. I'm just shedding my old life. Needs a coat of paint. It needs a wash job. It's so tight in there that I just don't think that anyone can even fit. It's just so little. And it was interesting because he liked it.
Starting point is 00:36:26 He kind of respected that there was this new version of me that was like, not that he ever thought I was like a slut that was like, meaning that with no negative connotation that I would, I've never been good at really having sex or having casual sex. I always catch feelings. I always fall in love. And so when I told him, I don't plan on letting anyone in there with their penis unless they can go in with
Starting point is 00:36:45 their hands and mouth and stuff, but no penis unless I see them as husband. It gave him like this, I can't speak for him, but our relationship just shifted. He kind of saw me in a different light of like, this is a woman who kind of has boundaries, knows what she wants. I feel safe with this woman. Like, I'm not good enough for her, so I want to become good enough or I just at least want to hang around her more. And so we just, I don't know what happened, but he was kind of like, what would it take?
Starting point is 00:37:10 And I'm like, well, I need, you know, I want a partner that's going to therapy. We started going to therapy before we were even a couple. We started going to couples therapy just to see if it would even work. And eventually we did make love and consummate it. And I was like, yeah, I could see this marrying this guy. So get on in. Come, move on in. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:37:29 And then it was like we were in love in a way that we haven't been before. Like I was fully so excited. It wasn't like, usually I sleep with the guys before I'm in love with them. I think I'm in love with them. I think I've waited long enough, but this was like truly waited so long. And it was, it was like the first time all over again.
Starting point is 00:37:46 And we've had sex a thousand times before that. You know, we lived together at one point. But it was so fresh, so exciting. And we both were obsessed with each other. And then things got difficult. And we recently broke,
Starting point is 00:37:56 this was like January when we finally made it official. And my reality show kind of traces the whole thing that happens. And when the show was filming, we didn't even, we weren't even able to like officially say we were together during the show, even though they desperately wanted that so we could have an ending. And we were like, we can't give that to you.
Starting point is 00:38:09 We're not going to fake this for the show. And so later on, we were like, yeah, we're official. And then we broke up a couple weeks ago because of just differences of what we wanted our future to look like that we didn't really talk about. And we were both, we broke up so many times in the past and it's always been like, I'm going to download Bumble right now. And I'm going to get on Ryan. I'm going to follow up with every guy that I've ever even put out a little hint out to. Like, I can't wait for this to be over. I hate him.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Those have been the past breakups. But this one I was like deeply sad, but understood it, mourned it. was like wishing him the best. And then he came back around and was like, I shouldn't have walked out of that room that day. And here's what I'm going to do about it. And here's what I think we should do about it. And now,
Starting point is 00:38:48 and we kind of like cleared the air about a bunch of stuff that we weren't saying. And I think I just had to take that. I think I've been the one always kind of personifying him as the one that's being avoidant. Because I think that's just an easy role for women to fall into, especially comedically to be like the ones that are chasing the guys. And like, oh, I can't get a guy.
Starting point is 00:39:06 It's just an easy. you know, archetype to fall into comedically, I think. And I think I thought I was like that, but I'm really the one that's scared of commitment. Like, I choose guys that don't want a commitment because I am scared of never having anyone new, never getting another crush. I long, crushes are like, if you could buy crushes on the street, I would be on Skid Row right now. I wouldn't have a career. The feeling of having a guy that you like and he's watching your Instagram story and your arms touch and you both leave it and you're like, oh my God, he loves. likes me.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Like, and all of that buildup, that is, I cannot believe people sign up to never have that again the rest of the real lives when they get married. Right. Yeah. I think that's what most people want is this. They want that forever, but it's not. But why do we all rush to get married? Because women always go, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:39:55 I'm married. But I still have crushes. I still flirt. I'm like, I don't, I'm not interested in any flirtation unless it can actually consummate. Like, it makes you feel alive, I think. It makes people who like feel like there's. desired and it's exciting. But I don't want to flirt unless I'm like,
Starting point is 00:40:12 I could fuck this guy. But for some reason, I now get it because I'm like this whatever I'm experiencing now, this deep love of like having a partner, having a teammate, being on a team with someone, it makes up for never having that feeling again. I think I kind of look at it like I look at drinking. Like I, getting drunk was the best
Starting point is 00:40:30 feeling I've ever felt in my life at that point when I first drank and I was like, oh my God, I'll never not want to do this. How could anyone, this is the best feeling I ever felt? And I still maintain it was the best. But when I quit drinking, I was like, I kept telling myself, you had your fun. Like, you did everything you could do with that. And I have to just say goodbye to those crushes, too. You know, like, I had my fun. I remember what it felt like. I can still write about it. I can still access it. I can still really live it through hearing my friends tell us stories of it or
Starting point is 00:40:55 watching movies. But I might not never, I might never feel that again because I'm trading it for this deeper love that I've heard about and always rolled my eyes out. And now I'm kind of feeling it. Well, there's straightoffs to every decision, right? I mean, no, thing is everything. And it's all hard. And I think that you just pick what kind of hard you want or what kind of life you want. What's more important. And I love running around. That's so fun. Like I love sleeping around. I love dating. But the stability of somebody is also really nice. It's just train off. Yes. I mean, it's a good comparison to drinking because you're like, well, this is so fun. I love this feeling. But I also have anxiety surrounding it. And there's like
Starting point is 00:41:31 hangovers and stuff. So like crushes and new things, they come with a bunch of anxiety. And is you going to text me and all that stuff. And so it's like, it's almost, it's really similar. It's painful. Yeah. It really is similar. I think you're right. Like the, the pain I've, when I have been single, I had a glimpse of it, like the week that I was single. I think that there were maybe, I didn't download the apps. I wasn't really putting myself out there. But there were things that I thought, oh my God, as soon as anyone gets a sense I'm single, they're going to come running. But all the people that I kind of thought would, no one did. And it was almost like they want me when I was not able to be had. And as soon as they sensed, I was single, they drop off.
Starting point is 00:42:06 stop watching my stories. And I'm like, wow, the world really isn't my oyster as much as I thought maybe it would be if I got single. Because the people that I attract are generally those that are also avoidant and want people that they can't have because they don't really want to be had. Yeah, but it's interesting. I always thought my boyfriend was avoidant and that I was the one that was anxious and like meeting him and please. But it was really, I think it was me all along. I was really scared of commitment because I mean, of course we're scared of commitment. Look at our lives.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Like, we don't have anyone telling us what to do. We do our own thing. We create our own business. We literally stand on a stage with a microphone and no one else can talk. Like, we're not someone who works well. I mean, obviously, you guys have worked well in a partnership, but it's got to be on our, it's hard to have someone else in your life and to also commit to something forever.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I love the fact that stand-up comedy, it can change. I can do different things. I don't want to climb a ladder. I want to like make my own, you know, jungle gem, I guess. I have a question. and we don't have to keep beating this relationship. But we've done episodes in the past about like getting back together with an ex
Starting point is 00:43:11 and could you get back together with an X and what's like the litmus test for whether it'll work out. So I'm just curious. I mean, obviously it sounds like you guys went to therapy, but was there something about this time? And you sounds like you guys broke up a lot. But like, do you have a barometer for like, can you get back together with an X and why?
Starting point is 00:43:26 Yeah, I don't know how people don't do it. I'm so impressed when people are like, no, I'm done. And I have a lot of embarrassment that I have really worked on getting through. of breaking up, telling all my friends and then being like, we're back together, telling like my manager even, you know, like people professionally and they're like really again. And I have to let go because honestly, now I'm looking at my relationship and I'm like, I think we might have a stronger one because of all the fractures. Like we've had to repair each one and we've had to actually
Starting point is 00:43:53 look into different therapies to like make us stronger. And I think a lot of couples that it's just like, it's just easy from the beginning. It's always been easy. Nikki, you'll know when you know because this is easy. All those things you hear, I'm like, I've never felt that. What I'll say is to that is he is not the person I dated before, 100% and neither am I. Like if we were, which we had done that before, gotten back together and we were the same people, it kept, we kept breaking up. And not to say that we didn't just break up a week ago, but I think now we've both proven
Starting point is 00:44:24 like he was so anti, not anti-therapy, but just so no glimpses of ever exploring that kind of side of himself. and I think he was very black and white when it came to like things about me. And I'm someone who just changes my mind daily about things and kind of don't tell anyone that I've changed my mind. And then suddenly I'm like, yeah, I just changing my mind about that. And he's like, wait, what? I thought you were staunchly against that. So we're very different in that way.
Starting point is 00:44:48 And I think that he's learned to forgive me for that and understand that it's a part of my personality. And really, and I've learned to accept that he loves me because he's someone that can be judgmental at times. And I thought, oh, if he's judgmental of me, that means he hates me. and then I hate myself and I go into this self-loathing thing when I really I can go, I can separate his judgmental side from being like, oh, that means his love, he doesn't love me. Now I just, I think I've been able to trust that he loves me.
Starting point is 00:45:14 But it really, couples therapy is fucking legit, dude. And there's this type of couples therapy called EFT that I just looked into and I'm about to start going with him. Emotionally focused therapy created by Dr. Sue Johnson. She wrote a book called Hold Me Tight, which I did download based on the title because that's really all I've ever wanted in a relationship. And it's apparently has 70% efficacy rate of like, it's the only talk therapy that couples in long term studies stay together once they've done this therapy. 70% of fractured couples
Starting point is 00:45:46 stay together, which is like exponentially larger than any kind of other therapy. So if you're out there struggling, you might want to look into EFT and then there's a book called Hold Me Tight that you can like work on with your partner. I mean, a guy has to agree to read a book called Hold Me Tight. but, you know, if you're worth it, they'll do it. You know, if they love you enough, they'll do it. I think a good lesson is I'm now ready to get deeper in this relationship and not be scared of committing further to him, which I would have been before because I did lose him a couple weeks ago
Starting point is 00:46:15 thinking it was forever gone. And I was okay. I was very, very sad, but I was okay. And so this fear of like, what am I going to do if I get even more invested? Like, I'll be okay. I'll like start writing songs. I'll enjoy Taylor Swift a little. bit more those months, you know.
Starting point is 00:46:32 I'll be okay. And I think I just feared how devastated I would be, but it actually makes you better, I think. A better partner. Yeah, when you're not desperate in thinking, like, if I lose this person, my worldwide. Yeah, but I think there's no shame in getting back with an ex. Absolutely not. Everyone else is like judgment of your relationship. Oh, you're getting back with them again. You're settling.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Everyone fucking settles. The pilgrims settled. That's how we have a fucking nation. You have to at some point just go, this is the best I can do. other ones like everyone who's with anyone settled people are like no he's my soulmate i go did you meet everyone you could possibly date yeah yeah no of course not your soulmate probably lives in india where most people are or china or china or so you're never going to meet them and they speak a different language but there is someone better from you than this guy you went to college with but guess what he's the best you can do and you settled but there's nothing wrong with that there's certainly nothing wrong with
Starting point is 00:47:22 going back and i think a lot of times people don't go back to their ex because they don't want their friends to go like, no, don't. But your friends are just jealous. Or they're concerned for your safety. I mean, if he hit you or something, please do not go back. Of course. And it's like, that's the thing. Like he wasn't some abusive guy. So it's like, who cares? Like he's not like making me a worse version of myself. He's not abusive. So it's like, I don't know. I look at it two different ways because I think there's this whole culture. There's a very like romance novel culture of like getting back with someone you like, you know, the star cross lovers that you've been with before. I just watched that fucking movie.
Starting point is 00:47:55 persuasion on Netflix. They were exes. Like this is this Jane Austen romance novel. They were exes. They broke up for eight years. She pined from the whole time. They got back together. And that's like a beautiful love story. So it's like why is there any different? Just because you broke up more time. You're pathetic if you get back. It's not, it's not because I don't think like that at all. I don't know. I mean. Yeah. I'm glad to hear that because I think a lot, I carry that stigma of getting back because I just feel like my friends, first of all, you put your friends through so much when you're going through a breakup and you talk so much shit and they are so, they have to comfort you. And then you get back with the person that they helped you get over
Starting point is 00:48:29 and you feel bad that you're returning this gift they gave you almost. Like, can I have the receipt back, you know? So you feel bad, but it's really none of their business and a good friend will just want you to be happy. And so I've kind of tried, as I do with everything in my life, which is my lifelong struggle that I'll take to the grave, not caring what other people think. Well, and it's boundaries too. I mean, like my friend went through my ex with me for like two years. I wouldn't put her through that again. I wouldn't make sure the relationship was healthier, A, but B, draw some boundaries. Like, it's not. So it's not that you're- I do not talk to my friends about my relationship in the way that I used to. Like I, yeah. And it's been had to be clean slate and I've had to really amend for
Starting point is 00:49:11 like how they may have perceived him before based on how angry I was and how much blame I didn't want to account for. And honestly, if you talk mad shit about your boyfriend to, you don't really respect them. Yes, I understand being angry and being a little bit like, you know, just not being the best version of yourself sometimes, but you really got to watch that. At least I have to watch that of just not just even about guys, just anyone in general, like when you're angry talking shit, because it really is such a poison, but man, it feels good sometimes. It does. It does. There's such a boundary between like popping off telling everybody we had this fight. I fucking hate this thing about him.
Starting point is 00:49:49 And then finding the one or two people that you can find those things in. And I've always been conscious of it. I don't ever want to make my significant other look bad because I think it makes me look bad also. And I try to like take a beat a little bit. I mean, there's just, there's never going to be anything that happens. I don't tell Ashley or like my other one or two best friends.
Starting point is 00:50:06 No, absolutely. I try to keep it tight out. I wouldn't tell my brother stuff. Don't take it on stage. Lesson learned. You know, these don't take it on a podcast. Don't take it on a podcast. All right.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Should we talk about F Boy? F Boy. Yes. I am obsessed with this season. I liked the first season of FBoy on HBO, which is out now. The finale just aired. But I love this season. I love all three leads.
Starting point is 00:50:31 I love you guys brought people back from last season. Yes. If you guys don't know the premise of the show, how many guys are there? Well, it's 13 F Boys and 13 nice guys. It was 15, but we lost four. 15 nice guys and 50 F boys, but you lose some people along the way. Because you're in Cabo filming a show, and when these guys get eliminated early on, they get loose, and then you lose them to the city, and we're during COVID, so we had to cut them out of the show.
Starting point is 00:50:54 So it's 13 nice guys, 13 F boys. And yeah, they go in and they all claim to be nice guys, really. And the promise of the show is at the end, if a girl chooses a nice guy, she splits $100,000 with them. And if she chooses an F boy, that means the money will go to them. And the F boy then has control of the money to either split it with a girl and keep the relationship going that they have formed, which led them to get chosen at the end, or they can say that they were lying all along and take all the money for themselves. And it's so fun to watch because you guys start to let us know who's F boys and who are nice guys,
Starting point is 00:51:25 which is nice. Yeah. Early on, we kind of give you a couple people, like, we let you know who's an F boy just from their interviews. Like you can just tell, like Mercedes right out of the gate. You're like, this guy is an F boy. It's the way he's talking. He's talking about.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Yeah. Yeah. And then there are other guys where you're like, you really don't know. and even I don't know as the host because at the beginning I think I knew all of them but there's 30 guys sitting in front me they all look the same all of their names are stupid
Starting point is 00:51:50 and just you know these new Gen Z names that like their parents thought they were being creative and so I can't commit any to them to memory so by the time episode six airs where everyone reveals their identity I truly have forgotten I've forgotten yeah which is kind of fun for you it's fun because I'm invested at that point
Starting point is 00:52:07 and I really want people like Keen to be a nice guy and people like, you know, J. Brian to be a nice guy. Like, I have invested interest in this and I get disappointed or Casey, please be a nice guy. Peter, please have changed and be a nice guy and not an F boy, even though there's no freaking way that you've changed. Nothing happened. Nikki, you're his, when he's, you put, you put this in your Instagram story. I have not been able to stop thinking about it. I think about it every day that Peter, Peter Park, he, he said like my therapy sessions with Nikki have really helped and Nikki is screaming at the TV. It was a sketch. And I was,
Starting point is 00:52:41 a sketch. First season, Peter Park. I can't stop thinking about it. We didn't, we do sketches where these guys shoot with me for five minutes. They come in, they shuffle them in. We do a fake therapy session to get a couple jokes out. But the jokes are born of me going like, why are you here? Like, who hurt you? These kind of like kind of therapy leading questions that then we, we've written some lines for them, but we also, they say stupid things. So it's just always hilarious what they say. But Ashley, he was so serious when he said that he was not trying to make, he wasn't F-boying out and lying. to Mia about like, I've changed Mia. You know, like, my therapy session with Nikki, like, really
Starting point is 00:53:15 changed me. Like, he honestly thought they changed him. That is how starved men are for talking about their fucking feelings. That a sketch where they jokingly talk about their feelings is enough to make them feel like they've done some groundwork. It really proved to me how desperate
Starting point is 00:53:31 men are, especially F-boys, these guys who just all they do is care about their looks and their Instagram followers and just smashing puss and clubbing and cars and protein powder. These guys are desperate to talk to someone about how they're feeling. Mia? Okay, during the taping, Mia had said to me, you know, off camera, they were setting up a scene.
Starting point is 00:53:51 We're just waiting for, you know, some challenge to start. And Mia's like, hey, whatever you said to Peter last season, thank you. And I laughed because I go, oh, really? Yeah, all that help I gave him in Limbro, the made up place where we set up a, it's like an SNL sketch. And she was, I thought she was joking, but she was serious because he had. said it to her. Like, that is, there's an emergency for men to,
Starting point is 00:54:16 to feel their feelings. I think it's so nice that, like, it's so true, like they're dying to talk somebody because they get away with everything. No one holds them to task. I mean, you look at the finale, both of the guys that won,
Starting point is 00:54:28 Peter and Mercedes, every guy hated these people. Every guy warned these girls over and over. These are bad guys. There were so much evidence that they were not good guys. And they both won. And they split the money and they did all the, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:40 they did the, being, you know, quote, good guys. Yes. Or wanting to get late after the show at some point. So they split them. You know, like, they're going to make more money on the back end if they split the money. Yeah. You should know that like if you come across as a good guy, you're going to benefit later on in life.
Starting point is 00:54:58 I mean, Garrett, when first season when Garrett kept the money, I just couldn't. I was like, you have to go out in the world now and everyone knows you're a fucking liar and you're a sociopath. Like, you have to go. You're a young man who has to, will always have this on his record of. betraying this woman on live TV and betraying me, the host of the show. But I think at that time I remember being like, oh, this is the Trump thing. That's exactly what I thought of when you said that was Donald Trump. The villain.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Yeah. No one cares. They like villains. So these guys, Mercedes and Peter, I think honestly, thinks he's a good guy. And he is a sweet, you know, just he's a model. These guys, when they're asked, like, why do you love Mia? I just think she's like a really independent woman. and I just like really respect her.
Starting point is 00:55:43 It's like these guys are so fucked up about wanting to come across as nice. They never give the girls what they truly want, which is like you're fuckable. Like these girls still want to be told they're hot. Clearly their boobs are hanging out. Like they're, this show should be under boob island.
Starting point is 00:55:57 I mean, outfits are insane. But it's so funny because these girls are never getting the compliments on their bodies and their looks that they long for that I long for as a woman because these guys are so hung up on like that would make them look like F boys. And it's like, no, you can still be a nice guy and want to fuck me. Stop compliments.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Yeah. That is an interesting thing. Respect you. Like, that's like, that's another overcorrection. Like, I'm like, tell me I'm hot. Like, I don't feel degraded. I'm naked in front of you. Like, it's consensual.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Yes. Like, give me compliments. Well, that's why Louise didn't pick. What was his name? What's the comedian's name? Benedict. I always want to say Sebastian. Benedict.
Starting point is 00:56:34 He does he get Sebastian. Why does he just? He just didn't. I loved her because she was. like, I have a box of costumes and I want to hear that like, that you want to be a freak with man. She was trying to drag it out of him and he was like, I grew up with all women and I'm trying to be respectful.
Starting point is 00:56:47 She's like, don't respect me. Disrespect me. We're very complicated that we want to be respected, but we also don't. Like it would be very confusing to be a man and hear these mixed messages. But I do. If there are men listening, I don't really know a single woman who doesn't want to hear she's fuckable in some way. But I mean, to me it's like once you give the green flag,
Starting point is 00:57:09 which is like, hooking up with them, physical. It's like, now it's time to say some dirty shit to me. Oh my God. Women want to feel desired. Yeah. That is a number.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Guys need to understand like the way to make a woman feel so special is that you crave her more than any woman in the room, in the world. We really crave that. We crave feeling special
Starting point is 00:57:29 and very deeply desired. Like almost animalistic desire. I don't know. I'm speaking for myself, I guess. Does that resonate with you guys to feel like a guy is just like, I don't know what you do. to me, like, I can't control me. Like, there's something very hot about that. That's all I want.
Starting point is 00:57:42 I want somebody to say, every movie, every show. Yeah, it's what everybody wants. And that's why the Benedict couldn't get there. Because he felt, he knows, you know, he thought she was so hot, but he like, and she was begging for it. Yes, she was like, please, look at the outfits she brought. Look what she wore to have me. Yes. Which, by the way, that outfit, that was a sexy, you girl. Oh, my gosh. They, she was, they're all so hot. It's fucking insane. I'm obsessed with all those girls. You like slowly see me get the confidence that they have throughout the season. Like my outfits get a little bit more sluggier as the season goes on because I start out being like, I'm older than them and I should dress differently.
Starting point is 00:58:17 And then they just, they start in that underboof confidence. Yeah. I have a question. It might be kind of a loaded question. And we have lots of questions from people about the show. But has your feeling about fuck boys and can you rehab a fuck boy changed since doing the show? Did you come in with an idea of can you rehabilitate one? Have you changed your mind?
Starting point is 00:58:38 I absolutely think you can. And I think that it really has to do with guys that are just going through. They're avoidant. You know, I think looking into the book attached, if you want to really understand F-boys is great, like attachment theory of like anxious attachment styles, avoidant attachment, fearful, anxious. There's different attachment styles.
Starting point is 00:58:56 And like, these guys are clearly all avoidant attached, which means that something happened with their mothers or their fathers, mostly their mothers, that led them to feel like, either smothered by their mothers or abandoned in some way. So they have to be punitive with women because they've already been hurt by them or a first love hurt them. So these guys,
Starting point is 00:59:16 I always say the F stands for fragile because these boys have just been hurt and they have not gotten to their deep feeling of inadequacy. Really, I mean, these guys who work so hard on their bodies. I mean, their bodies, every guy I talked to is like, this show makes me feel so insecure. It makes me body dysmorphic. And I'm like, I really hope you don't feel that way because although these bodies are impressive,
Starting point is 00:59:39 know that for me at least, and I think for women who have a head on their shoulders, yes, these guys are nice to look at, but I don't want a boyfriend that works on his body this much. He will not be able to see, hang out with you. All he's going to eat is grilled chicken breast, boiled chicken and broccoli and protein. He's going to have one of those little cups that he shakes with a spring in it.
Starting point is 00:59:56 These guys are not going to have time for you because they're hungry and they're obsessed with themselves. It's a low self-esteem. And I think that these guys, I think these guys can change, but it takes therapy and I've seen it happen. And it's, I know it. I used to be a fuck girl, I think, avoid it and not wanting to get in relationships and
Starting point is 01:00:12 convincing guys I really liked them because I actually thought I really liked them. And as soon as they would like me, I'd go, ugh, gross. And I would change my mind. And they would be like, you do this to guys, Dickey, you fuck with them. And I go, no, I really thought I liked you. I can't help that I stopped. That happens to guys too where they don't even know they're going to not like you as soon as you start liking them.
Starting point is 01:00:29 And they switch and you go, you knew this. You tricked me all along. I slept with you and then you stopped liking me. they don't even know they're going to, they think they want to keep liking you, but they can't help it because they feel they don't deserve love. So you liking them suddenly makes them very deeply uncomfortable. And so it just takes therapy and it takes like someone doing more than listening to like to Joe Rogan podcast where they learn a breathing method that they try once or twice and go and fixed. Well, and also there's, I mean, that goes out saying that there's full blow narcissists, sociopaths, but just like a lot of and which and then someone's too can definitely get misconstrued. But like, yes.
Starting point is 01:01:02 they're definitely these guys, which it does appear that, you know, whatever, it's reality TV, but who knows what's completely real. But it appears like the guys that are on the show are kind of this type that we've been talking about. They've been hurting some way. They think it's cool to act like that, but like they actually have feelings. They actually don't seem like narcissists or so. I watched this show with my boyfriend and I just go, oh, Danny, he's so hurt. And he goes, this guy is a liar and he just thinks he's so cool. And I go, he goes, come on.
Starting point is 01:01:29 And I think it makes my boyfriend feel a little unsafe that I'm so do. and like feel so like feel so much for these guys. But I'm like, I love the F boys more than the nice guys because you take the nice guys at their word. I mean, and they most of them are nice guys and they say they are. But the F boys, there's something I like about their honesty and about the fact that they can kind of say they've been hurt. And they all have been so deeply hurt.
Starting point is 01:01:49 And not that it's an excuse by any means, but I do shrink them down to like you can see them as a little boy and something happened to them. I feel like it's important to acknowledge that, but I do not have a savior complex. and I feel like, I'm saying you do. But I do. I think we can see people like this and we can feel bad and we can feel like maybe their college girlfriend fucked them up or their mom fucked them up.
Starting point is 01:02:11 But at the end of the day, you have to protect yourself and you can't go into any relationship no matter what the thing is thinking, I will change this person, I will save them. Come back to me when you've done the work. Yeah. I'm kind of like, come back to me when you're... That's, that's it.
Starting point is 01:02:24 I realize the only F-boy deterrent is a woman with boundaries and confidence. That's the only way a guy will go, wait a second. So this girl isn't putting up with this. Okay, I got to change myself. The only way a guy is going to change is not for you to like wait for him to change or to hold his hand through it to go, I actually don't tolerate anything even close to what you're doing. And I won't talk to you again until you get it together.
Starting point is 01:02:48 And that has really helped me avoid a lot of hurt in my life is by doing the harder thing where I want to hold the guy, hold the guy's hand through breaking up with his girlfriend so he can be with me or like hold his hand through going to therapy. And like with my boyfriend, like us going to therapy together was not us holding, me, like his hand through his therapy. It was us going as a joint. Yes. And like his own therapy, like I was like, I'd love for you to go, but it's none of my business. And that's been the way it's been.
Starting point is 01:03:12 I don't even know if he goes. I just know that I'm seeing results that, you know, lead me to believe he's actually going. So yeah, there's boundaries are the only F-boy kryptonite. And the confidence, like you said, I'm not going to name any names, but I mean, of the six girls we've seen now in the two seasons. You can tell which ones are more insecure and which ones are like, dying for this validation and they're saying a lot of things that I would never say now. I probably did when I was younger in my 20s and they're younger than me, but you can feel their
Starting point is 01:03:37 insecurity coming through. So the guys can feel that. It works both ways. Like you want someone who respects themselves. It goes back to the husband hole, calling my vagina hole like, sorry, only guys that have husband potential get in there. And that's not me trying to bait you into being my husband. That's me saying, no, really, like, I have a standard. And I know that when someone goes in there, I get fucked up in the head because I I can't help how my body connects. I don't have control over the hormones that get released when I have an orgasm when there's a penis in me.
Starting point is 01:04:05 And I don't want to like you. You don't deserve it. You have two weird of a relationship with your mother. You haven't acknowledged your father's drinking problem or whatever. You know, like whatever it may be, you don't deserve to be in there. And it's not you're a good person, but I, having boundaries. And man, I'm, I still struggle with it. Like, you have to work so hard to have them because just as women, we are just conditioned
Starting point is 01:04:25 to be people pleasers. It's the hardest thing to do, but I just, I would say. to women out there, and I'm talking to myself like six months ago, just fake it till you make it. Like, just pretend like you're someone with confidence, even if you don't have it yet. And it will come eventually. But turning someone down that you really like because you're like, sorry, I just, I can't do it. It is so hard to do. And I don't know if I could do it.
Starting point is 01:04:47 It took me until I was 36 before I started making these decisions. But I think this next generation of women is, yeah. And I think we're teaching a lot of people to do that. And I think it's normal to look at most people and say, probably at their core, they're a nice person. and we have fun, and I see a lot of glimpses of them being kind and honest and wonderful. But at some point, you have to just say this is bullshit. And even if it is a defense mechanism, the way that they're acting, I had somebody I really cared about that I thought the world of in a lot of ways,
Starting point is 01:05:12 not the world of, I really liked him. And he said, I act so shitting you because it's a defense mechanism. And I was like, that doesn't make it better. I don't care that you're so damaged. Why should I be all fucked up because of this? Okay, good. You found the source of it. Now go figure out a way to control it.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Yeah. Yes, to stop doing it. because, yeah, it's one thing to be able to trace it and go, because it's my, I got hurt before. And it's like, oh, let me lick your wounds. No. Okay, I see you got the source of it. Good job.
Starting point is 01:05:37 That's great. That's a first step. But that's not enough to, like, actually alleviate it, which I wish it was, but it's just not. I just love that, like, you have kind of made these boundaries for yourself based on the way that you know yourself and how things make you feel. We talked to Shambo Dram about this recently with her fuck buddy who became her husband. She was like, I had this role that was like no sleepovers because I knew that it would
Starting point is 01:05:57 make me feel closer to them. So she was like when we were fucking, I had all these boundaries for self-preservation. Because we were like, how do you not fall for somebody that you're having regular sex with? And I slept with someone recently. And I just left. I just, we didn't spend the night together. We didn't wake up together.
Starting point is 01:06:11 And I told Raina, like, I felt so much less connected to him. And I was thinking about a guy that I slept before that, where we like, woke up together and it feels so intimate. Like, and it's like you want it. But it's like, if you cannot do it, then you, I don't know, all these things. It's nice to know what makes you feel a certain way. It makes you feel close to somebody if you're trying not to do that. It's almost like drinking.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Like I can't just have one drink. The person in me that goes, I'm going to have one drink gets one drink in them and gets a little drunk. And then that person's like, have another. And it's the same with dick or with crushes. Like I just have to have good boundaries for myself and like have hard lines even though, man, I want to sleep with someone right away. It feels so good.
Starting point is 01:06:48 You know, like it's not like I'm not having sex with people because it doesn't feel good. I want to do so bad. But just because you want something does not mean it's good enough reason to do it. I love the parallels with drinking here. For me, it just really works. Well, for me, I'm like, I'm a moderate drinker and I, of course you want to have another drink, but I know how it's going to make me feel in the morning.
Starting point is 01:07:05 So I'm able to not do it. I mean, it's the same. I want it. Yeah, I want it. Just like, I want to fuck this dude. Yeah, you want to like wake up with somebody and like cuddle up. But I think we're raised to believe like, I want it is enough. And it's like, I want it.
Starting point is 01:07:20 And people just, I think that sometimes that gets in our heads. But I just self-care. Like, there's this blurry line of like, take care of yourself. Take a nap if you want it. Because I always feel guilty about naps. I haven't earned a nap. But it's like,
Starting point is 01:07:31 but I want it. And that should be reason enough. It's hard for me sometimes to navigate between do I deserve it? Is this self-care? Or is this me just being over-indulgent? Do you guys struggle with that as well? I think it's like taking care of yourself for the next day, the next, like we talked about this with Dr.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Amen, even. Of like, yeah, you want to like eat the whole pizza. But like, you know it'll make you feel like shit. So it's not about depriving yourself. about knowing, it's taking care of your next self. It's about like, I know I'll feel like shit tomorrow or I know this will make me feel attached to this person that's not right for me. So to me, it's not about deprivation or feel like you don't deserve something. When I moderate my behavior and I don't do something that I want in the moment, it's because I know my future self will regret it
Starting point is 01:08:11 and I'll feel like shit. That's healthy. Yeah. Because I get off on deprivation. I can get like, oh, yeah, fuck you. Not need the opposite. I need instant gratification. I want a glass of wine at home, which will turn into two glasses, which will turn into smoking weed, and then I'll eat, and then I'll eat really late, I'll be mad at myself, I'll wake up, I won't work out, I'll text somebody, I shouldn't have texted. And to me, I've tried to work on the fact that the short-term gratification I get from how good it fucking feels to do something bad does not outweigh how bad the long-term feeling is going to be for me. Yes. It's just, it feels so good to tap into that in the moment. Oh, my God, send that text to that
Starting point is 01:08:47 toxic X. Oh, it feels so good. But I'm going to feel so good. And you know that that one glass is going to let you do all those things. Like, even though you don't know it, there's a part of you that subconsciously that's like, if I get to do this, I might get to eat all those things I want to eat later and not feel guilt in the moment. And only later I might get to text that guy. Like, you kind of set yourself up. It's that part of your brain that's saying like have that glass.
Starting point is 01:09:11 And honestly, it will just be one this time. And I think over time I just learned that that voice, if I, you know, I open a bag of like skinny pop. I'm never not going to finish that bag of skinny pop. so I don't get to have family-sized bags of things in my house anymore. Everything has to be individual because I just know myself, that voice that says just have a couple, just have a serving,
Starting point is 01:09:32 I'm not a serving girl. It's like I'm going to have the whole thing. So I have to protect myself locking up the liquor cabinets. That's why I move to St. Louis. Like, I can't turn down comedy sets. I can't turn down podcasts. I'm addicted to work. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Like, I don't feel like I deserve to sleep at night unless I've worked hard enough. I don't feel like I deserve to have a nice meal unless I've worked hard. Everything is punitive for me. And so protect myself from overworking, which will lead to exhaustion, which will lead to me overeating over all the things. I really felt like when I moved back to St. Louis, I was like, oh, wow, I'm in a place where I've literally locked the liquor cabinet when it comes to work.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Like, I can't do sets every night. I can't do podcasts every day. I mean, with Zoom, it's made it a little bit easier. But being in New York Valley, when I go there for just four days, it's hell. Because I can't say no to things. I just have to do. And there's something good about that when I'm getting ready for special and or when you just have the energy for it.
Starting point is 01:10:26 But I'm 38 now and I kind of just like to watch TV at night sometimes and just go to bed. Self care and also overindulgence. It's all very fraught. It's tough being a girl. Do you feel like the St. Louis moving back like helped a lot? Are you able to be like, I'm allowed to watch TV and veg out and like it doesn't mean I'm missing opportunities. Like I, it's therapeutic.
Starting point is 01:10:48 I thought my biggest, I think what. what I've learned from removing myself from New York or L.A., which was very hard to do because if I see on Instagram, people hanging out, doing things, working, getting sets, like, I will get triggered. Like, you're a piece of shit. You didn't work hard enough. They're going to eclipse you.
Starting point is 01:11:04 They're going to get better than you. Because this is true. If someone's getting on stage and you're not, they're going to the gym and you're not. It's essentially a gem. And so I feel like I'm falling behind. That girl's younger than me. She's going to be funnier than me.
Starting point is 01:11:15 They're going to forget about me. But I've realized that, like, when I see pictures of like, the scene hangouts in New York that I used to be a part of and I just kind of go, I had my fun. Like that other feeling of like, it's okay.
Starting point is 01:11:27 It doesn't hurt as much as I thought it would. Just like muting someone on Instagram that triggers me. Like I always think that sometimes you know there's a certain people on Instagram when they're successful or they look a certain way. Their lives are killing it and you just feel so sad every time you see their post. I now mute those people because I thought in the past
Starting point is 01:11:46 that if I mute them, I'll still think about them. I'll still know they're there. It won't help. You really truly forget they exist. They cease to exist. We talk about this. It's wild. It really works. I really want women to know this. Like, I know you think you will still think about Kendall Jenner's body if you stop following her. You won't. No. You really won't. She will, if you stop looking at the Daily Mail, if you stop looking at Des Mois and reading about people, if you stopped following these people that trigger you, just try it out. And I, and you'll see, I've muted people like friends of mine. And I've like missed out on them getting engaged, having a, maybe. They don't exist. They don't exist. I mean, I don't know anything about the Kardashians until it comes up in like another news source. Yes. It's just, it's a personal thing. I don't need to know what's going on in their lives and they don't trigger me in any way. I just don't care. Yes.
Starting point is 01:12:33 If you have any body dysmorphia, if you feel bad about the way you look, I cannot encourage unfollowing all these influencers. They're not trying to make you feel bad, but they do make me feel bad about how their bodies look, their outfits, how they're able to carry themselves, how they're able to dress. It just makes me feel bad. I just, And you think it won't work. I just want to say that I used to be of the mind of like, I'll still think about them. I'll still know they're there.
Starting point is 01:12:56 But I swear to God, there used to be one girl that used to trigger me so much. It was like I was cutting every day looking at her. I mean, it would send me into a depression and I unfollowed her thinking, let me just try this, you know, and I'll probably follow her tomorrow. It was within a day.
Starting point is 01:13:11 I couldn't believe. It was a year later that someone brought up her name and I was like, I used to spend so much fucking energy and I forgot she existed. And she's still just as beautiful. her body still just as fucking tight and tiny. And it's, it's out there and yet it affects me none. So just try it. It really is such a freeing thing and like what you're capable of if you're not comparing yourself.
Starting point is 01:13:32 You guys are both muted for me, by the way. You're too successful. I'm just kidding. You're not. You're not. But I've been tempted. I've been tempted. You guys do look very beautiful and you seem to be having a lot of fun and you're selling out shows
Starting point is 01:13:42 and it is triggered. I can't even get through your intro when you're on this show because it's three hours. I can't anything with this. You do. You know that I, like, looked up to Nicky so much when we actually became friends. I was like, I can't believe we're friends. Oh, my God. I don't know if we consider.
Starting point is 01:13:55 No, absolutely friends. What? Yes. I just don't remember you sitting on the side of the stage at the grammar. Oh, my God. And I was talking and you laughed and I was like, is Nikki Cruz are sitting on the laughing? Oh, I love. You guys are so freaking funny and so good.
Starting point is 01:14:10 I, whenever I do your podcast, I'm just sitting here, like, absorbing how good of hosts you are. Like, it really is so impressive. You are, you are truly, I look up to you. like your success does make me jealous at times. I'm not going to lie. And it makes me compare myself and all of these things. And I zoom in on your outfits and your hair. And like everything gets,
Starting point is 01:14:27 you definitely trigger me. But it always makes me feel like this is better for me. Like it makes me feel that thing of like their success is my success. It really does. And it's a healthy jealousy. So you'll never get muted by me. Well, we think that you're like one of the few that really does like lift up other women.
Starting point is 01:14:46 And you did it with us so much. it was just like unexpected and so nice that you'll tell everybody that. Say nice things about what people are your Instagram story or back on your radio show and things like that. So I'm glad we talked about it. Yeah. Me too. Do you want to like rapid fire? Do you just like burning questions?
Starting point is 01:15:01 Yeah, that we could try to do like. Okay. We could like rapid fire some fucking. Let's not like get into it so deep. Okay. Yeah. People are dying and out. I want to just ping pong?
Starting point is 01:15:10 Yeah. Okay. I have a few personal ones. You do. Okay. Nikki, is Benedict a good comic? Do you like him as a comedian? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:16 I think he's hilarious. I haven't seen his stand-up, but I think all of his stuff on the show, I'm like, oh my God, that's such a good line. I'm almost getting jealous. Like, I almost need to meet. Did you guys do you guys to like make it? I'll say this. I do not connect with any of the guys that go all the way to the end. I have the least connection with those guys because I'm not allowed to really talk to them outside of like the elimination ceremonies as a friend because it's just you try to keep producers separate from the guys. The guys that I'm best like the most friendly with. are always the guys to get eliminated. Because as soon as they get eliminated, they get senses of humor, they stop taking this show so seriously. They're able to, like, you know, loosen up and I'm able to talk to them. So I really like Benedict, though,
Starting point is 01:15:57 and I think he's actually going to be one of these guys like Theo Vaughn who like started in reality TV. Yes, I love that comparison. Did you know, Benedict, whatever his last name is, was on F-boy Island? Like, I think we're going to say that of him someday. Oh, my God, I love that. Yeah, I love that.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Yeah, and Christina Pisitsky, too. Real, you know, like, Oh, yeah. Road rules. She was on. Yeah. They were both on road rules, but we forget that. Yeah. Okay. My question, Bigot, well, everybody's question. So people did want to know if you've talked to any of the contestants. So I guess that kind of answers it. So we'll go to the next one. Biggest shock at Boy Who Thought was a nice guy. Kean was a huge shock for me because he's just so Southern, so nice, which is like, I love you girls. He was just like kind of like their big brother. So that was a shock. But I really was shocked when Garrett took the money at the end of season one.
Starting point is 01:16:45 I really believed him. And I even had told Sarah, I think you should choose Garrett because she wasn't as into Josh. I didn't want her to choose Josh just because he's a nice guy and he's safe. Like, follow your heart. Follow your pussy. Like, follow what you actually want and take a risk. And I didn't, I just couldn't believe he was that good of an actor. I really was shocked.
Starting point is 01:17:05 I mean, you watch season one and you're like, everybody, I'm screaming the television. He's a bad guy. And then he had that girl come on. He had his ex just, you guys haven't seen it. Allegedly. his ex come on and saying he's a nice guy, which all seemed like a lie as well. I know. I thought she was in on it. I didn't trust her at all. But I really trusted him. I think, and I still like him. Like, I still believe he can change. Like, he's really, he's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:17:29 He's just, look at him. He's ridiculous. He's so beautiful. And he has a good sense of humor about himself. A lot of these guys take themselves too. Seriously, they don't like to be mocked. He always allowed it. He's an Russian orphan. I just have some, there's something very interesting about that for me. He wasn't touched as a child or hugged or like, coddled, which can really fuck someone up. So I have this, like, kind of leniency with him. And him and Sarah are cool now. Yeah, he was a Russian orphan.
Starting point is 01:17:52 I know. And Russian orphan, he wasn't touched as a child. And, like, he's been through a lot. And so, I don't know. I just have an affection for him that, um, and he's just, and he has a sense of humor about himself. There are some people that, like, you don't date, but you could be good friends with.
Starting point is 01:18:05 I have a really good friend like that. I'm not going to fucking date him. He's a great friend. Yes. Yeah, we have friends are a boy. Because Casey is friends with Garrett that that makes him an F boy, because that's a huge. level of contention of like he can't be trusted because he's friends with Garrett.
Starting point is 01:18:17 I thought it was a huge storyline and it was very interesting. I do think there's a level of you are the company that you keep. Of course. I just, I don't have friends in my life that I think treat people really poorly and are really bad to others. And I can say that pretty confidently looking at all my friends. Is it a huge deal breaker?
Starting point is 01:18:33 I don't know. Maybe that's your best friend in the world. If I'm dating a guy and their best friend in the world is like a really shitty person, I would have a hard time with it. I also just like, are you as shitty person? through and through. Are you just an asshole
Starting point is 01:18:46 in the dating world? Because you I'll just, yeah. I'll say that Garrett, the time I ran into him after the first season, he was with Josh, St.J, and Sarah, out at a night to go watch comedy. So they're all friends now. So the people that Garrett has so badly hurt have now accepted
Starting point is 01:19:02 him back, I'm allowed to like him as well. So I'll just say that I think he's won over everyone. I also think there's a level of being on TV. It's reality TV. There's so many people that will openly admit like I was played a part. It's what I, you know, went in to do. Okay, I really do want to know the limbo.
Starting point is 01:19:19 Like, clearly they don't sleep. No, they don't sleep there. Do they sleep in the house? They, no, they are put at a hotel, but it is not nice combinations. Like, the nice guys are actually who eliminated are at a better hotel. And the F boys are at like a lesser. Okay. You know.
Starting point is 01:19:32 All right. We love to hear it. We wanted to know, we talked with you a little offline just because we love so many your jokes. We didn't, we wanted more. And you're truly the best part of the show. I mean, it's what dating reality shows have needed. is Vicki Glazer this whole time. Like it's just...
Starting point is 01:19:46 So we just loved your jokes that you said they probably cut like so many. I mean, is there any that you were... So many. Especially disappointed they cut or... Well, let me just read you like a script. This is like... So every time the guys would walk in,
Starting point is 01:20:00 they would look so sad. Like these all these guys just like wearing their shirts with like two buttons buttoned, and greased up and like bandanas and scarves in like 90 degree weather. So much jewelry and like accessories. So many accessories. and they all are wearing these dumb beaded necklaces that are microphones.
Starting point is 01:20:17 I'm so glad the necklaces came up. Okay, thank you. Yes, those are microphones. So next season, I'm going to call that out early because I don't want people at home being like, why are they all wearing these weird wood, beaded necklaces? Okay, so they walk out like sad. So every time, every elimination they'd walk out and I'd go,
Starting point is 01:20:34 I'd just go through a million of these. I go, you guys look sad. Did they ban nudes on Onlyfans again? You guys look like you're ready to give up. Don't treat this like you're finding a clit. Don't ever give up. You guys look like you just found out that Snapchat's can be saved. You guys look like you just found out that Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift was not inspired by actual events.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Have you guys shown these women as much attention as you've shown your reflection at 24-hour fitness? You guys look so nervous. Is this an elimination or the waiting room of an STD clinic? Did you, God, you guys look sad. Did Joe Rogan get canceled again? Did you all just get an I'm late text from your secret girlfriends back home? Did you guys just all find out that jerking off isn't keto? God, you guys have should have been this nervous before you got your tattoos.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Why do you guys look so sad? Did the rocket me too? And then yeah, so it's all just like Casey. You guys seem nervous like you're in competition with the hottest guy from last season. Oh, wait, you are. Like just talking about Casey. You guys look upset. You look like you found out your new protein powder has more the carbs than your last protein powder.
Starting point is 01:21:32 And now you have to drive back to GNC to exchange it for the right one. And you're like, fuck, the Big Ten championship football game is about to start. And you bet eight grand on the coin toss. And you don't know what to do and you're scared. But Andrew wrote that one. And I was like, I can't memorize that man. I don't know what any of those were. We bring Andrew Collin out to read it.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Andrew Collin. I just feel like this should have been part of the show. Like I just feel like every time they... No, like this should have been a thing that we anticipated every time. Like, we know when they walk out that Nikki's going to say this thing. Like that's something to look forward to. I know. I feel like this is a missed opportunity on the production side that like this wouldn't have been like a thing.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Like what's she going to say next? And it just gets more and more outlandish as the season goes on. Yeah, it's not television. Like now's the opportunity. I loved it when they were due bodycasting. And Mercedes was like, what part of my body do you want to cast? Louise was like,
Starting point is 01:22:15 your dick. I was like, oh my God, I love it. Yes, me too. She just said, dick, I know. I know, I love it.
Starting point is 01:22:22 I have to have a talk with, the problem is we just can't fit it all. But the show is so funny, like that one date where they, Tamaris went on a date with Aaron, and they were like, this date's really boring, so we're just going to show you abs.
Starting point is 01:22:33 I would like next time for them to be like, we're just going to show Nikki roasting guys from last elimination. Like, instead of abs, let's put it there. It's 100%. It's really hard, though,
Starting point is 01:22:41 with my own reality show as well. like reality and comedy do not mix and this is the first attempt at actually doing it. We're still trying to get the ingredients right. And as an EP, I'm going to take a stronger role in being like, no, we must get more comedy through next time around. I think I just was too busy this time to actually have a hand in that. And they tried their best.
Starting point is 01:23:00 I mean, you're dealing with HBO who's giving notes and we need people to be louder about what they want from this. We'll do it. We'll write a lot. Yeah, we'll write a lot. I mean, it's still a giant leap forward in terms of all dating reality shows. Chuffle fuckers. You said chuckle fuckers on television.
Starting point is 01:23:14 When you said, I know, I got it. I got it. And then when they were like, did I post this? You did. And I posted it and I said this hits different. And yes, how it was like, they were like, well, do you get chuckle fuckers, Nikki? And you were like, no. No.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Men do not like female comics because we talk. They were so excited to hear about all the guys that want to fuck us because we do stand-up comedy. They were like, well, what about you? And people are like, it's quite the opposite, ladies. Literally the opposite. The more famous I get, the more my stuff. not goes down. You talking to them about comedians was my favorite scene at the whole show. Thank you. Allie Wong talks about it in the first two minutes of Don Wong and I was like texting Ashley from the hotel room and I was like, you gotta watch this.
Starting point is 01:23:53 They don't like us. It's not the same. Nikki, tell everybody every place that people can find you. Yes, F-Boy Island, HBO Max streaming now first season, first and second season. And then my special good clean filth, new hour special just came out also on HBO Max. I have Netflix stuff. And then I have. a daily podcast. I do Monday through Thursday with Andrew Collin, who you know from Girls Gotta Eat called the Nikki Glazer podcast. And then I'm also on tour all over the place, including Europe. So if you want to check out those dates, go to Nikkiglaser.com. Thank you. My God. Nikki, thank you so much for being here. Thank you guys so much. It's so good hanging out. And for us, you guys can head to vibes only.com to shop for vibrators, blowjob gel, all the
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Starting point is 01:24:51 Have a good week, guys. Bye.

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