Girls Gotta Eat - Cringey Social Media, Selfie Tips, and The Royals feat. Chicks in the Office

Episode Date: March 15, 2021

We're so excited to collab with the Friday Energy pop culture queens, Ria and Fran of Chicks in the Office! We chatted with them about all the gossip of the moment (Royals, Bachelor, Kardashians, Harry and Olivia), but also tapped into their own personal lives/boyfriends, and social media expertise. We're discussing whether cringey social media is a dealbreaker, following/liking hot models on Instagram when you're in a relationship, how to take better photos for your own feed, and more. And before we bring in the Chicks, we're going off about NYC's energy, the vaccine, and Botox/fillers. Hope you enjoy! Follow Chicks in the Office on Instagram @ChicksInTheOffice, Fran @FrancescaMariano, and Ria @MariaCiuffo. Follow us @GirlsGottaEatPodcast, Rayna @Rayna.Greenberg, and Ashley @AshHess. Check our website for show dates and merchandise. Thank you to our partners this week: Nutrafol: Get 20% off your first order + free shipping at nutrafol.com with code GGE20. Calm: Get 40% off a premium subscription at calm.com/gge. Rory: Try out Nightly Defense for just $5 at hellorory.com/gge. Daily Harvest: Get 25% off your first box at dailyharvest.com with code GGE. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the moment, you may not realize you're being cringe, but then when you step out of it, it's like, whoa, who was that person? That was cringy. Agree. I love you said that. Yeah, it's only a problem if it's still happening. It's our episode of Girls Gotta Eat. Welcome back. I am the best mood. I can't stop smiling. New York this week, this past week, like last week at this point, was just like 60s every day. Incredible. The energy was out of control. I was just like, this is the best city in the world. Thank you for the reminder. One year from it being like such a scary time and such a like what's going to happen. And it just feels like New York is back, reminded why we live here. Everybody was out on the streets, just enjoying the weather, like living like it was summertime. It was the best ever.

I am so excited for what's to come. But you weren't here. I can't stop smiling. I was in Pittsburgh last week, which was also wonderful to see my family because they all got vaccinated. It was a wonderful week. But I pulled into New York last night, Saturday night, 7 p.m. and I pulled on to 6th Avenue and I like, I welled up with tears. People were walking around, cars are everywhere.

And I thought about like about nine months ago and I drove home to Pittsburgh one of the times. And I drove through the West Village and there was not one person on the street. It was scary to walk around by yourself. And I just thought like the city is like coming alive again. I feel like coming alive. I feel like hope again. You know, I feel really happy to like see people walking around their friends and eating out and just like putting money into these small businesses.

it just, it really warmed my heart. There's something so special in New York, like, kind of, not to sound so dramatic, but like coming out of the darkness, you know, like we feel like we see the light at the end of the tunnel and like the city has always just had the best energy. Like a beautiful day in New York is the best day anywhere in the world. Yep. And I remember that feeling of like in the spring last year of like, do I even want to live here anymore?

Like, is it over? And it's like I finally feel like I stuck it out. We stuck it out. Like every city stuck it out and like did it and I see like the light at the end of the tunnel. I know. I can't explain it. Like, I feel it in my, like, soul and my gut. Like, I went to meet friends for dinner Friday night and just walking around.

They shut down 7th Street. I was like, is 7th Street and St. Mark's going to be fucking Bourbon Street? All summer? Oh, summer. Summer, I can't even make it out on the streets. Like, it's going to be like post-war. I like that picture on every block in New York City this summer by a different person. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. How's game we promised you guys this week we would give you a live show update. So, we are doing our best to. to move all shows to times when we can max out the capacity everywhere, et cetera. We have solidified the Florida shows,

which are our next shows coming up anyways. So we have moved the dates for a couple of them. So the new dates, and then we'll give you some details. Miami is going to be Sunday, May 2nd. Tampa is going to be Wednesday, May 5th. And Orlando is going to be Thursday, May 6th. Go all the way off.

We are doing two shows per night to try to get everybody in there. Okay, so a couple of housekeeping things. probably have questions about if you had tickets you're still holding on to them they will transfer to the new dates um the times of those shows are changing they will tell you if you guys had tickets which time it will transfer till if you guys have questions concerns you want to refund for your tickets you can't make it on those days just contact the venue they're aware they're going to take care of that finally uh VIP we're not doing meet and grates of course just in um in line with CDC guidelines we can't really meet you guys and hug you unfortunately we would love to um we will be refunding

the price of the VIP upcharge on your tickets if you bought them. Yeah. So at this point, this should be handled for the most part. We wanted to wait on this announcement because we didn't want anybody to freak out and start calling the venue or whatever. We wanted to make sure everybody that got tickets was taken care of before people buy new tickets and everything's good to go. So it should be people in Miami should have been called if they had VIP and refunded

to the new ticket price. And everything should be moved. I think we're moving people mostly to the late show in Miami, but the earlier show in Tampa and Orlando because the late show is kind of late. But it should have been done by now. If it's not, the venue can help you guys out with that. You know, they're just working around the clock to get this done. That being said, we cannot fucking wait. I mean, I'm just like, oh my God. And it's honestly like Florida, if you guys aren't aware, has been pretty open for quite some time. And everybody's performing there. And we had the show scheduled already. You know,

this isn't us like, let's go to Florida. Like, we have these shows scheduled already. And we're going to we changed you get to make a few changes to accommodate and kind of work with their schedule. But like we were like, we're going to keep these shows. And you guys were damning us. Like, please don't cancel these shows. Like this was supposed to be girl from Tampa. Of course, I love Tampa. She was like, can we promise we wear our masks and we'll be safe? I just like, we wanted to cry. I was like, we trust you. Like, we want to do. We're going to do what we can do. We're going to come to every single city that we possibly can come to. We never thought we'd be away from you guys this long. I, I just like, I can't wait to hear you guys laugh.

Oh my God. It's just, it's my. It's my. dream and I've missed it so much. I just go to Mayo and Tampa. Just go to go to Maya and Tampa. We're going to take my tinnies out. We're going to take tequila shots on stage. I'm going to stop crying. I'm so excited.

I just can't wait. And like I just, I love a Sunday night in Miami. Such good vibes. And we have never been to Orlando. So I'm so excited to go Orlando. Are we going to go Disney World? Maybe. Maybe we're going to be Disney adults.

I want to end up on the like milfs of Disney World. I first learned of Dills of Disney World. Chris is Deveno because he was on the Delfts of Disney World. Oh my gosh. Yeah. There's a lot of Delfts at Disney World. Yeah. When I had, I think it may have started with Delps of Disneyland.

But I, when I had fashion dads, they would, we would collab sometimes. Which is fashion dads is still an account that lives, but it's retired. But you can always go look at the photos and the captions that still give you a laugh. Chrissy Tiga was a fan. It was one of my, like, my claims to fame. But that was funny because, like, I was like in with like the dad Instagram accounts when I was with fashion dad. I miss fashion dads.

I miss fashion dads. Anyway, we can't wait. You guys, we love our Florida snack heads and family in Florida. And so we're just so excited. Yeah, we'll keep you guys posted. We know that Texas was supposed to be next. A lot of West Coast stuff. We're doing everything we can.

The second somebody says, Greenlight, you could go. We'll fucking be there. Yeah. And it's like, I mean, it's just wild because I don't know what's going on. Like Granddaddy Biden says that we're getting like everybody should be vaccinated by summer, which is kind of wild. to say. Like, I hope that's the case, but I told you last night, I was like, if I don't get a vaccine

by the end of May, I'm popping off about Biden. I don't care. He's unnoticed. He's on notice. He's on notice. Would you get the Johnson & Johnson vass? I'm trying to get the Johnson and Johnson. Hit us up, Johnson and Johnson. I want the Johnson and Johnson because I feel like I'm a healthy person. I'm fine with that little less percentage and give me one. I just, all I need is one. So we were at dinner with Casey Bulge him last night and she said that she can't be trusted to go back for a second one. So she asked to get the Johnson to Jaws to get just one shot. Well, I just think, like, if it still counts as vaccinated and it still protects you

enough, I'll take it. Because maybe if the Moderna and the Pfizer are just a little more than give those to the people that are more at risk, like, I feel like I'm the perfect candidate for the Johnson Johnson. Yeah. Not quite AstraZeneca. I don't know about all that. Also, guys, can't trust this enough.

We are not doctors. Do not DM us about this. We, yes. Not interested in your medical findings. I'm sure that you working at your desk job at Salesforce know all about the Astruzeneca vaccine, but don't DM us about it. Anti-vaxers don't work at Salesforce.

They work for an MLM. They are pedaling essential oils. I'm just saying, I love you guys. We're not claiming to be doctors. I put all kinds of stuff in my body. I don't ask you guys for your opinions about. And this is another one of those things. Yeah, whatever.

We promote the vaccine. Shocker, we talked about all the time. So don't DM us. Yeah, you guys know how we feel. Well, speaking of things you put in your body that I don't want DMs about, your girl got some filler. Natural beauty. I walked into this apartment to a whole new face.

No, stop. No one can tell. Like, that's the thing. Like, it's just subtle. But my story with Botox and Fillers is that I've never gotten fillers. I got Botox once like three years ago. I was literally the last of my friends to ever get. get it. You know, I just was like, you were the last stronghold. I was the last one, but I, and it

didn't really hold because we all know how I have an expressive face. So I only got it in my forehead. I didn't love it. My forehead looked smooth, but I did feel like it kind of lowered my brow a little bit, which it just does. Like, you know more than me, but if people, you know, Botox paralyzes your muscles, you can't make the expression. Fillers is a, it goes in your face. Thank you for explaining me. But no, but the reason why I say that is because I was at this place. I'm going to tell you guys about it and I said I'm getting I said I'm getting cheek Botox and Raina goes bitch what actually

trying to mansplain to me how cosmetic procedures works I have been shooting up my face since I was like 28 really yeah but the first one I got Botox I was 28 um I just got the 11 lines and then I don't have them can't really well listen your family's your family gave you good jeans mine didn't no I just

I have all the other lines I don't have the 11th I started doing my crow's feet a couple years ago. But yeah, I've been shooting up this face for a year. Okay. When you said cheap Botox, Ashley, I was like with my dad, I was like, I can't talk to you right. I got to manage this right now. I was like, that doesn't exist. You're like, and you're so nice about it. Like, you're like, so is that, can you explain? Like, I didn't want to make funny you just in case like in the last 30 seconds they invented cheap Botox. Yeah. So, um, I'm sticking needles in here for a while. I just, I want to talk about my experience.

because, you know, you're getting needles in your face. Like, it's a procedure. It's nice to, like, feel comfortable and like where you go. So this place in New Jersey, they're called plastic surgery of Short Hills. The plastic surgeon is Dr. Alexander of Chinsky. And they reached out and the girl was like, I'm such a fan, you know, like, of the show. Do you want to come in and, like, see what we're about? I'm like, sure, whatever.

I mean, it's kind of far, but they were like, well, take care of your transportation. I was like, I'll go to Short Hills, New Jersey. Girl, everybody in New York knows what Short Hills is. That's what the expensive people mall is. It's beautiful. It's Short Hills. I didn't know. And then they valet your car at the Short Hills Mall.

Okay, I didn't know anything about Short Hills. And then I was looking at SLT, my workout class to book one. They have a studio in Short Hills. So I was like, okay. Short Hills is where it's at. Yeah. I was driving around. I was like, this is beautiful.

Oh, yeah. Can't recommend Short Hills and not short hills. Okay. So I just had the best experience there. Obviously, the area is super nice. And the office was so wonderful. Like the girl, you know, I just like to walk in and people like, welcome, come in. Like, they know the show.

I have gone to so many different doctors offices to do there. and like I am very sensitive to how they say how they treat you like what are the waiting rooms look like how does it smell like I am really like I think about it a lot yes you should have like a good experience so and I did see the doctor he has listened to the show I was like Dr. Orchinski which episodes like I was like I love the show I was like okay I don't know what he listened to like bees episode this summer do you know do you know what outfit I fantasize about wearing do you know did he listen to what did we even call it my my neck, my back, my pussy, my neck, my back, my nudes and my crack.

Or something called my pussy and my crack. Whatever. News were in there somewhere. My nudes, my rack, my pussy and my crap. That's what it was. It was one year ago. Yeah, I think. Don't do you have I super wrong.

But I don't know. Like, he looked at my face and I was like, you know me. You know, I love my looks. I think everybody should love the, love the way they look. And if they want to just make little improvements here and there and like, you know, just try to, we're all trying to anti-age. Like, we're all by, we spend so much. We spend so much money on products every year.

We do these crazy facials. Like it's all this. It's the same thing. Yeah, it's a needle in your face. But still, at the end of the day, it's all just like trying to kind of preserve your youth. It's not surgery. Yeah, it's not, yeah.

So he just looked at my face and I told him that I got Botox one time before. And he was like, I can tell you have an expressive forehead. I'm like, mm-hmm. And he was like, you don't have the 11s. I'm like, I know. I know, doctor. And but I do have like really deep set crow's feet and I always have. And I think it's because I laugh all the time.

And I think that's a beautiful thing. but I've had them since I was in my mid-20s. And I was like, let's just kind of see what this filler is all about. So he just really took a look at my face and was like, you know what? I know you mentioned you don't want your brows to come down at all. We can try our best, but it can always happen, especially if you're hitting that middle line. So let's just do a little around the eyes. We'll do a little bit of filler in your cheeks and like see what you think.

And I just think that's such a good sign with people like that that they don't go crazy. And they're not like, let's shoot you full of filler, especially when you're on the younger side. And then you have to maintain that forever. like when they're more conservative, I think it's such a good sign. 100%. And that's what I'm looking for also. Like when I go into a doctor's office and they try to talk me off the ledge of paying for things, like when they're like, a lot of people. So to give people like a little bit of idea, like filler, like you lose a lot of volume in your cheeks as you get older. You lose a lot of collagen. They'll do like one to two vials of filler

if you want it. And the first time I got it, they, the only time I've gotten filler. They did one third of a vial and the girl was like, why don't we just do a tiny little bit and see what you think. see what you think. That's like the mark of like a great surgeon to me. It's just like a little drop of it. Yes. And like explaining to you like when you paralyze that muscle, your brows will come down a tiny, tiny bit. But like where some people might not care, I do care because even though it doesn't last that long, I don't want to not like anything about my face for even a month because I'm, because I got something I shouldn't have gotten. So I'm like asking all questions. He's answering them. He's not being condescending or making me feel stupid. And I just love it. Like you can't tell.

I don't think. Like, I can tell, like, I can tell that those, those lines are really kind of gone around my eyes. And I just feel like my cheeks are like a little bit lifted. It's nothing drastic. I just feel so much better. And I mean, I'm well into my 30s and I'm like, it's time to maybe just kind of just do a few little tweaks here and there and try to maintain what I already look like. You know what I mean? I just want to look like I'm 33, forever. Forever 33. Forever 33. Forever 33. Listen, I think it's, I think whatever you want to do with your face, if you want to change your whole face and buy a new one, not you personally, anybody. Great, do that if you want to do a little bit. I have a lot of friends I grew up with that don't do any work. Great. Good for you too.

My mom. Whatever. My mom. Nothing in my mom's face. Your mom, just flying on happiness. No stress. She looks amazing. But I would rather go to a doctor that doesn't nickel and dime me. It doesn't need the like extra $300 for me. Right. Give me extra filler than since I'll keep going back to that person. Yeah. And I had such a pleasant experience and I know that he's a double board certified facial plastic surgeon. And so he's renowned for the right. hypoplasties, which is a nose job. I went so deep on his website looking at before and afters. I love a before and after. And for someone, you know, I have a larger nose, clearly a candidate for a nose job. Like, you know, you never know. But I just went so deep looking at his before and afters

because he's an above the neck surgeon. And since we're talking about this, while we're here, I don't foresee us having many more plastic surgery conversation. So I'm like, while we're here, we may as well say it. If you were ever going to get a plastic surgery, go to a plastic surgeon that does specifically that. Could Dr. Ofcinski do a boob job? Probably. Do you want him to? No, he's a face. He's a face surgeon. So like, be wary of people that claim to do everything. Like, if I got anything done to my face, like plastic surgery-wise, I would go to him. He is renowned. He's won all these awards. He specializes in rhinoplasties and like, you know, chin stuff and whatever. But like, that's what he does all day, every day in and out. Like, you never want to go to somebody that's like,

I can do whatever you want. What do you want? You know what I mean? I Google this stuff so hard. I look at before and afters. I look up their reviews online. I make sure no one has bad things to say about them on the internet. Right. It's your face. It's your face.

Yeah. And like we've all seen botched. Or whatever. Yeah, whatever your body. You know what's doing. You know. But yeah,

we've all seen botched. We like no one can go wrong. So those are my tips. You know, I've just all juiced up from my recent like tweaks to my face. Like again, I still look like me. You probably can't even tell.

But I love it so much. And if I'm going to like play mom a little bit like, Like my personal feeling is you don't really have to think about this stuff in your 20s. I mean, you said you were like 28 and I think that, you know, people can do whatever they want with their face. Like I just always want to send the message of like, you should love yourself, love the way you look. You want to do small tweaks here and there. It's only natural.

That's why we have skincare routines and shit in the first place. You know, we, we, that's why we get braces. It's why we dye our hair. Like, there's no shame in like wanting to tweak the way you look. I think that it just, there's a line and people go too far and they walk in and they want a new face and they're just constantly chasing an unattainable beauty standard. And so that's all I have to say. I think, you know, you see a lot of people going so hard on this in their 20s.

And if I were to, if I'm your mom, I'm just like, enjoy your youth. You don't need it. Waiting to your, you know, in your 30s. If that's just, that's my, been my experience. You know what I mean? Like don't, if you want to do it, do it, but don't like stress yourself out. I mean, that's been my experience. I don't think anybody looks at me and thinks like I look like a totally different

person and I bought new teeth, which I'm pretty happy about. I do think that, like, completely changed my smile. But I don't think I've changed my face. You know, I've stayed a straight six my whole life. No, stop it. No, I'm a seven at least. And I, you know, my new eyebrows have really changed things. Your eyebrows are so good.

Thank you. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. Like, you know, it's your body your choice, but I do fillers now. So thanks. You're just, I just cheek Botox now. I do cheap Botox. So I'll never stop laughing.

I will say, like, I don't know why I got so dramatic with that. No, people ask, like, does it hurt if you're, if you're, if you, never done anything like this. I mean, you can get numbing cream or not. At most places, I chose to get it. It numbs your face a little bit, which feels kind of crazy. I don't, I don't hate it. And I mean, you feel a needle going into your face. I mean, it's not, I wouldn't call it pain. It's like, I wouldn't say it hurts. But of course, I mean, you can kind of feel it going in. There's a sensation there, but it's over very quickly. I never thought of myself was going to be the high threshold for pain. I'm just like an average person, but Botox needles don't bother me.

I find tattoos a little uncomfortable, but in terms of like tattoos hurt a lot more than a little bit of facial Botox. Microneedling, I didn't even feel it. So in terms of how bad it feels like Botox is nothing. So I'm a little weird about needles. I'm good with like external pain, but mentally needles going in freaks me out a little bit.

But I'm all for a needle. I'm going to get the vaccine. I'm going to keep getting Botox and the vaccine. I'm a big fan of needles. I just like, I'm a little weird. I just get a little, I don't know. I cannot, will not watch any sort of like surgery. Like I have to look away at any sort of doctor show.

Like I always thought I had a high threshold of like I feel like I don't really get grossed out. But I can't watch like surgeries. I've never asked you this before because you know some people like really love that. I mean, I can't even watch botch. I can't watch boobs. It makes me feel sick. I don't want to see the inside of someone's body. And I'll tell you what, I do not want to watch a pimple bean popped.

Sick. People watch Dr. Pimple Popper. Also, live your truth. If this is what you're into, a lot of people are in there. Yeah. We all have different kinds of porn, too. You know what? I have, like, a tip for needles. I got a tattoo the other day.

And, like, I saw the size of the needle and I was like, oh, fuck, not that. But the guy that was doing it was like, so, he was pretty hot. He was looked cute. So I was like, all right, if the person is doing it as hot, you just don't think about it. I was trying to, like, really flax. So I was like, oh, my podcast is so cute. He was, like, really hot. We vibe. It was nice. He is a girlfriend and two dogs. But I mean, you guys aren't probably

going to feel like that about Dr. Evchinsky. He's also as children. He's like an older man, but his energy is good. So if you go there, if you go to Short Hills, are you going to go with me? I also, by the way, I do want to credit. I want to back up to one more. You can move on for the second, but I do want to say one more thing you said about him. You said he didn't shame you. And I've been to doctors before, specifically once when I went to talk to somebody about a breast augmentation. And I felt really talked down to and I thought the guy was condescending. And I felt like he was like, I do this every day. These questions are so stupid when like I was just asking normal questions about a very

major surgery. I don't care if you do this 15 times a day. I do this zero times in my life. So I felt really shamed by this man and I felt really uncomfortable and I never went back and I paid for the consultation because I took the consultation. But like I would never go back to a surgeon like that. And so it's really important that you're with people that don't shame you. And also tell you what else you could be doing without you asking.

Like I remember being 20. You know, I got a chin implant. I've talked about this. And I feel like that doctor just, he did not have a great bedside manner. And I feel like he was saying other stuff that I could do even like with my skin. I was like, I'm 20. Like if I ask you, tell me what I should do. I want to look a certain way.

Bring out the Sharpie, start circling, start making it fine. Then it's open season on me. But if you didn't ask and then they bring something to your attention that you never even thought about, Like that is just so rude And it's like I feel like people get nervous about that They're like I'm gonna go see his plastic surgeon I'm gonna go talk to him about rhinoplasty for example And they're gonna tell me other things I should do with my face

They shouldn't actually I don't think I don't think so either I think you should be going to somebody's talking to out of shit Not talking to any shit And so that's just if someone ever makes you feel uncomfortable Because I've certainly been through that It makes you feel stupid or foolish for asking questions Or yeah like you said makes you feel like your body needs more work Don't go to that person fuck that person

You don't need to give that person to your money There's plenty of people that will not make you feel like that All right, well, I love this. We haven't had like a deep dive conversation on like surgeries and Botox and shit like that. So we're going to normalize it. We're going to talk about it. And we're going to get it. Get a facelift next week.

Okay. It would be next year. Well, while we're talking about beauty, we have a DM. This is basically the merch email. And again, you know we don't like reading these because we don't want to glorify your behavior. But this is so funny. I said this. I thought it was a joke.

I sent this to you and I was like, just when you thought you've seen it all. Because we get a lot of crazy stuff in our DMs. And I had posted Nutrafall on my story. And this girl message me just responded to the story. Or she had to, you can't just respond. She had to send it to me. And then she was like, can you send me a bottle? My hair has been shedding since June.

And then she trails off. And then she sends it to me again with like the letter I. Like she's just like, I don't know what's going on here. Like is she like stroking out. It's like it was a lot. And so she, then she writes. Sorry, I have acrylics. I'm still learning to type with these things.

Okay. Anyway, can you send me a bottle of these, please? Here's my address. And it just gives me your address. You're not the internet. You're the producer and the distributor of Nutraful, a giant-ass company. It was just so funny.

Like, I had a little bit of sympathy. Like, you know, she's having a problem with her hair. She sees that I have three. So maybe she's like, you don't need all those. But I do. That's my supply. Yeah, but she gave you her address. Like she meant it.

She was, can you please send me one of those? That is crazy. I posed three bottles of vitamins and someone's like, yo, can I get one of those? Here's my address. And even if she thought by accident she was responding, girl, we love you. But if she thought that she was responding to Nutraful's Instagram story,

like I wouldn't respond to Neutrophol's Instagram story and say, here's my address. Can you send this to me? Did she give you a credit card information? No. Oh, this is supposed to be for free. I'm sure. You're supposed to ship it for free.

Are you paying for shipping or? Right. What are the logistics? Who pays the taxes? And it was in California. Can you ship this? across the country. That is so funny.

And how she was like, sorry, my acrylics. Anyway, like, she was like talking to her friend. I can't. Girl, we love you.

Thank you. I know. I felt like I just laughed. Did you respond? I didn't respond. Did you explain her how the ordering works? Okay. I think I'll go back in now that we have the new code.

And I'll be like, hey, girl, here's our code. You should buy her a bottle. I should. And you know what? I didn't like open the DM ever. I just like screenshot it.

So I'm not going to even read it. I'm not going to open it. It's still like unleft, unread. She's just going to get a bottle of nature. Like this girl. Wait, are we feeding bad behavior? Because she's going to be like, oh, I get to do this. Okay, that's funny.

What if she sees my Instagram story of the banana condoms? And she's like, here's my address. No, can you imagine she's going to see some fashion influencer? She's going to, like, can you send me those jeans? Like, she's just going to, whatever. I don't care. What if it works? What if it just continues to work? Like, everybody thinks it's so funny that they just do it.

Okay. So we are super excited about our guests today. Yes, we are. We have two of them. Yes. And I just have to say, like, we love these girls. This was like such a fun light chat. You know, nothing was too deep. Don't take anything too deeply. We're talking about selfies and Instagram behavior and pop culture and stuff like that. I have to say, like, I'm not that into like celeb gossip. Like, I just don't. Not as much I'd like you to be. I don't care that much about celebrities. Like, obviously, of course, Beyonce, I mean, yeah, I just don't. I'll dabble in a little like

celeb gossip, but I just don't spend too much time on it because at the end of the day, we really have no idea what is going on in these people's lives, like celebrities, the royals. Oh, 100%. Yes, listen, it's one of the downfalls of our relationship that I had to message you about JLo and Arod. I'm glad you brought up JLo and Arod. Jrod. Do people say that? No.

Okay. Just Benefer. It died. Her couple names died at Benefer. Kate asked. She was like, do people say J-Rod? I'm like, they should. So we recorded with the chicks prior to them, which I'm kind of bummed about because we couldn't deep dive on the J-Rod situation.

I don't know what happened there. How did the news get out? And then they were like, no. Just kidding. Just kidding. I don't know. I feel like J-Lo was like I got to let them know that this like bothered me, that this like little bitch bothered me. But like I'm not leaving him. Maybe. So for me personally, my ex-I used to break up all the time and then I would tell everybody, J-Lo, is as dramatic as I used to be. And she was like, we're broken up. And then she was like, just kidding. We're back together. Like, I used to, my friends. She, like, took down all the photos of her and Aeron. And then she archived him and she was like, just kidding.

She told page six, we broke up. Like, I used to tell all my girlfriends. They'll humor you like once or twice. And after that, they're like, shut up. So anyway, yeah, this episode was funny for me because I had to research a lot. And I'm still like such a boomer. I'm like, wait, did you guys know there was a rumor about Drake and Kim Kay? And Rhea's like, bitch, yes.

And then I was like, who is that person? Like, you just had, I felt like I was getting ashamed. Okay. The night before we recorded with them, though, you did text me and say, make sure you watch the Meg and Markle interview in entirety because you knew I wasn't going to watch the whole thing. Yeah. Or even any of it. And you did.

I'm proud of you. And then one thing before we bring them in, again, like this is just like a cut up, light episode. It's so much fun with it. We know so many guys love the chicks and we love them too. We're talking about some social media behavior. I wanted to direct you guys to two other episodes where we have talked about social media behavior. One is called Do It for the Graham, December 2019. And one is, is he micro cheating?

It was our 60th episode in June 2019. So we deep dove on a little more social media behavior, some of which we'll touch on with them today. But again, we're not going too deep on stuff today. So those are two other episodes for your reference. So without further ado, let's bring them in. Yes, guys. We are so excited to finally have long-awaited guests in the studio with us.

They are the co-host of the wildly popular podcast, Chicks in the Office, where they discuss the biggest stories in pop culture, celebrity gossip reality TV basically the only things I care about in this world please welcome to the show Fran Mariano and Ria Chiffo thank you for having us round of applause we're so glad to have you girls I do I feel like I just know you so well I just watch you every day on Instagram and we were on your show before so

we're so glad to have you guys here with us yeah same honestly I stock you guys on Instagram all the time like I'm I'm watching every single Instagram story you put up Like, I've talked about this before with other guests that we've had on that there are some people on Instagram. Obviously, you like flick through and you're like, okay, I don't really care what you're doing. But then there are other people you pay attention to. Like you two or two people I pay attention to. I'm like, what are these bitches up to? Like, you know, there's a lot of stories where people are talking and there's like multiple stories.

And you're like, all right, let's fast forward to this. But like, I turn the volume on and listen to you guys. Yeah. And I'm glad you guys brought that up because you have amazing Instagrams and we are going to talk about social media and how I have like a dope Instagram feed. Thanks. We appreciate that. Yeah.

We love what you guys do. I want to tell people a funny little story about you guys just to gas you up a little bit more because we were supposed to record with you guys a couple weeks ago and we couldn't. And we got a really cute text message from Maria apologizing. She couldn't do the podcast because you've been in pain. I've been in pain since Saturday. I went to the doctor, blah, blah. You said you need to get your gallbladder removed.

But this totally screw you guys over if we reschedule because I can tell my gallbladder to step aside for an hour to do it. if that's going to fuck your guys his schedule. You were going to knock the hospital to record this podcast. No, I really was. I was like, well, if they really, if this is going to fuck everything up, I've been dealing with this pain for years,

like, no joke, years now that I was like, I could put it aside for another hour, but it was like, that day was especially annoying where everyone in the office was like, just go to the hospital. Like, you're pissing us off at this point. So you guys were super cool about it. So thank you.

And I'm glad that we finally got to record. But I did feel like really shitty after I went to the hospital. And they wouldn't take out my gallbladder. I was showing up thinking, all right, I'm going to get this removed the next week. I'm going to be good. They wouldn't take it out. So now I'm still pushing it off. And so I felt like an asshole after because I was like, oh, I could have recorded the podcast.

But we're here now. Realistically, we probably should have known that she wouldn't have been able to go into the emergency room. I mean, I would like my gallbladder remove, please. And they would actually do it. There's a pandemic happening. And I was like, take out my go blood. I mean, if it needs to come out, it needs to come out. Like that's what we thought.

And they were like, it's not like a kidney, though. Like, you know, when you get. Not a kidney. Oh, God. Appendix. None of us know appendix. The most simple one. Obviously, when you get appendicititis comes out,

nobody gives a fuck about that little thing. It's like a pee, throw it away. Gallbladder is like you can deal with it, I think, for a little while before. There's no like, you know, infection. That's crazy. We didn't know. Either Ashley texted me on the side, she's like, I don't want to be insensitive. Like, can we ask how long it takes to heal?

Like, I don't know, like, what your gallbladder, like, what does. find anything sensitive. Like, trust me, you will never offend me in any way, shape, or form. So you're good. You can ask as many personal questions as you wish. Yes. Because our gallbladder, Gabby on our podcast. Yeah, if you would like to know, her name's Gabby.

What is it? Gabby. Her name. Her name is Gabby. That's so, we're still in there. She's still in. Well, we want to, we do want to ask you personal questions because I feel like you guys talk so much about pop culture and news and not as much about.

your personal lives is because the kind of the show is more of that pop culture stuff. So we want to hear about your personal lives. I know you guys both have boyfriends. You told us on our group text. I was like, what's your, what's the status? One of you was like, we both have boyfriends. I was like, oh, wow. Okay. So we're just like bragging out here. Yeah. Pretty much. Like we both have managed to stay single. I don't know. We've managed it pretty well. We don't really share too much. I mean, we work with my boyfriend. We work with him. The thing is that I know everybody knows. Everybody knows. follow Barstle. Then if you know him, he produces part of my take, if you guys know the podcast,

the number one sports podcast. He produces that and he's been with Barstool since he was 19 and he's 27 now. So he's been there like since the beginning since they were in Boston. So we've been dating for four years now and I don't feel the need to constantly post him on my social media because we are together all that like we work together. We live together. Like we're together every day. So it's kind of like an afterthought. I'm not thinking like, I'm with my boyfriend right now. Like, I need to post it. We're together all the fucking time. Like, if I posted when we were together, it would just be annoying. So some people will hit me up and they'll be like, did you guys break up? And I'm like, you guys would know if we broke up first. Right. You're like, you know this place would be

blowing up our spots all over like. Re-enhan. Like, yeah. Like people would eat that shit up. So of course, you guys would know if we broke up. So for me, that's why I don't share so much because people already know us. Whereas Fran, I think you don't share a lot because your boyfriend doesn't work. You didn't sign up for any of this. He's not in this world. Like, this isn't his thing. And so, like, if I do post him, it's normally like, hey, can I post this? Like, how do you feel about it? Because he's, he's more like, I would love to keep like our relationship and not have it out there as much, which is nice because for me, I like that situation too. It's easier for me to kind of like separate work and private life, which is nice. So, like, that's why he, you know, he's not on there,

as much. And also, like, people are, people are mean. Like, you know, you're telling us. Yeah. I subject, like, I'm fine with subjecting myself to, like, people criticizing me. It's my own social media page. But I'm not going to, like, post a picture and have people tear into him for, for no reason. Like, that's so fun for him. So we just kind of he'd been out of it. Well, I will say, Like you said you separate your work from your private life. Mine's like one, like my work and my private life are like intertwined. Which is also works in my favor though, because like Hank will like record stuff for me or take pictures of me.

And like, you know what I mean? Like for Instagram, like he like is like, yeah, let me get a great shot. Like you're popping right now. Like let me like, like, you know what I mean? He's your hype woman. Okay. 100% like,

let's grow the feet. Yeah. He's like I want to start like he's and especially during quarantine when I was making like a lot of TikToks and kind of like elaborate ones where it would be like, like, like lip straight out of videographer. I'd be like, all right. He'd be like, okay, you get an hour of my time from one to two. We can film this.

Like, so that, it works in my favor. And I don't think that I've had any struggle. Like people, obviously, when you work with somebody and you also date them, I think that causes a lot of problems for a lot of people. But thankfully, I've been lucky enough where it's never been like an issue for me. I think maybe in the beginning, because to be honest, I was an intern when we started hooking up. And so I kind of was like very, I freaked out first of all.

Like I called somebody who worked here. I was like one of the only girls that Fran wasn't even here. I was like the only girl at the time besides like one girl on the sales team. And then Erica, who's the CEO. Not calling Erica. Yeah, I wasn't calling Erica. Beating like I hooked up with me. So I fuck this guy.

Literally. And I was like, I literally call an Asa Kira. Like Asa Kira also worked there. the porn star. And she... She's coming... Yeah, she's coming to the show in a couple weeks.

She's fucking awesome. And she's part of the reason I have done with my boyfriend. She was like, I want to fuck Hank. And I was like, I'm just gonna fuck Hank. Like, are you joking? And so, uh, so she like would hype him up to me. And so that was like kind of,

she like made him obviously, obviously. Like I thought I was like, okay, like, I'm flirting here. But like, she would like really make him seem like... Wait, I love that. So I was like, I want to fuck him. since Aster Akira does. Duh, like what?

So I feel like because I was an intern and that happened, and I called the other girl that worked here at the time up the next day being like, I want to jump off a fucking bridge. Like I'm never going to get a job here. Like, I just, I'm an intern. I hooked up with somebody immediately. Like, who am I? I don't do that sort of thing.

But that wasn't the case because this is Barstall. There's really no real rules here. Like, I should have known. No HR at that point. No HR. We haven't now. but didn't have it then. And I remember, and then we just like continued hooking up. And then I remember standing outside of the building one day waiting for Hank to come down. And Erica comes out to me.

She's like, are you seeing him? I was like, yeah. And she was like, good for you. Like, she was like, good for you guys. And you know what, though? She also was kind of a factor because, oh, everybody loved it. I have no, everybody loved it. And also everybody loved Hank. Like, I remember before I hooked up with him, Erica was like, oh my God. Like, and this was before anybody knew we were flirting. And she was like, oh, my. my God, we went to the KFC radio. They had like that KFC radio event in Boston. And she was like, we were at the KFC radio

event in Boston and every girl was going up to Hank. Like, everybody wanted I was like, what the fuck is this? You were like, all these people want to fuck this guy. You know what? I'm going to fucking. I'm going to fucking and make him and my boyfriend. And I think everybody was happy for Hank. Like, I think everyone was like,

yeah, I'm like hyping Hank up so much. It was definitely the opposite too. I remember when I came in and everyone was kind of like talking about Ria and Hank and it was more like Hank like what's he working with that he just landed Ria like like the hottest shit yeah like they were like wait

what like it wasn't even no one had concerns about her it was more like Hank like okay let's talk about this and see that's what's crazy that I'm saying all like Asa and they were hyping him up but everyone on the other side was like what's going on here like Hank Hank like Henry

Lockwood yeah yeah yeah It's so funny, that's such a thing of like, all it takes is, like, one girl that you kind of look up to to, like, say this guy's hot. You're like, oh, oh, he is, like a seal of approval. Other girls want to fuck him. Like, now I want to fuck him too. Yeah. Fran, I was dying to know, like, after this.

How do you work? How do you, like, work with your boyfriend, like, work, work out with your boyfriend. Yeah. When he has this girlfriend that is so public. So at the end of the day, like, he supports me and, and is so proud of me and everything that I've accomplished. So, like, he's able to put that. above some of maybe his insecurities about my job. And like, he's told me, you know,

if you maybe did something else, it would make my life easier, but you love it. Like, I just love what I do so much. So when I say that to him, like, I'm like, look, this is my dream job. Like, I'm not sacrificing that.

Like, this is what I want to do. He's like, absolutely. I would never, I would never ask you do that. So we just kind of like, I don't know, when I'm with him, I just try and leave barstool fran at work. You know, I try and, you know,

phone down, phone off, like things like that where it's, we are just spending more time together. And also, like, during the week, you know, we're both doing our jobs. We're both doing our thing. And then on the weekend, like, I'm able to disconnect a little bit more. And we can do other things. But no, it's definitely, it's definitely not easy for him. Like, yeah, I don't think it's not his world. But most of the time, it works pretty well. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. Well, should we move into like social media stuff? Yeah, let's talk about social media stuff. You guys mentioned like, you know, posting your partners and stuff, and both of your Instagrams are so good and dynamic.

So we wanted to talk about people's behavior on social media, how to have a good feed, cringy behavior, if your partner has prungy behavior. And we asked people for some funny questions. So I have a question for you guys, because I had this scenario happen and somebody else asked about it to what if your significant other or a guy you like or girl you like has a social media presence that is so cringy because I met this guy. I was so in love with him in the fall. And I like started looking through his like Instagram.

First of all he's like 30 and does all these TikTok videos, which I was like, okay, I can accept this. But it was all these like memes that like weren't funny. It was like his tweets and weren't funny. I mean, I sent them to Ashley all the time and I'm like, who is this person? Like this is a total disconnect from the person that like I thought I was clearly going to marry. But like you're embarrassing me. So what do you guys think about that?

Like when you're dating somebody and their presence on social media is so cringy. It's hard because, you know, everyone says social media is not your real life. it's a, you know, you're putting out the best, the best versions, the highlight reels and whatnot. But sometimes I feel like with that situation, it's the opposite. Like you see this guy in real life and you're like, okay, he's amazing. But his social media might be more telling about who he actually is on the inside. And also just like when somebody is trying to be funny so hard and they're just so funny. And you know, bad memes.

And you know everybody's talking about that person being like that person. thinks they're so funny and they're not. Like everybody, you know, you know what I mean? Like, there's always that person for somebody who they follow on social media where they know that they're only hate following them because they're so unfunny. But it's like, you always wonder, you're like, how does their girlfriend feel about that? How does their boyfriend feel about it? How does anybody they're talking to?

I'm getting, like, worked up because there's people I know that I'm like, I hate their social media presence so much. And then I know people who like hook up with them. And I'm just like, how do you? Like, how do you? Like, I know. what you know and seeing what you see, how do you?

I try not to judge, like, I just, I feel like I have girlfriends that I love dearly, like their posts make me cringe sometimes because not everybody's funny. Like, they're usually just a little too corny. You know what I mean?

Like I'm like, oh my God, girl, what? But like, it's also like, they don't work in comedy. They're not a comedian. They're not writing punchline. So I think a lot of times people that are just, the average person doesn't know what to say.

Like people, you know, look at, they Google captions sometimes because they're trying to like, be funny or be witty. So I try not to judge women. I don't like to, you know, we support women, but male, cringy Instagram or like TikTok or whatever it is is like next level. And I try to afford them the same grace that I would, you know, if I like somebody and his Instagram or his TikTok or whatever was so cringy, I just don't know how I would proceed. I wouldn't write them

off, but I guess I would like just not ever look at it. I would just like, I would mute it. Like, because I, it's also, if it's good and it's funny, it's such a turn on. Like, I was kind of like chatting with this guy that he, like his TikTok was so great. Like it was just, it was a right amount of funny. It was like seemed like it was his real personality. And I think it's, it's so weird when they feel like two different people. A hundred percent. Maybe it's a way you can also help too.

Like maybe there's a way you could be like, you know, like let me give you some tips. Like punch their jokes up. Yeah, yeah. Either that or like, you're like, you're like, you know what? I feel like you posted a lot of the same. thing recently. Like maybe you need to spice it up. I will say I have had like I have had very cringy post before. I'm not like saying I'm clean of that. Yeah. Like everybody has changed. Instagram definitely has changed. And also TikTok like during quarantine, I was just posting TikToks

all the time because I'm like, what am I doing? But you don't realize you're being cringe in that moment too. Totally. That's also something we need to notice is that in the moment you may not realize you're being cringe. But then when you step out of it, it's like, whoa, who was that person? That was Gringy. Agree. I love you said that. It's only a problem if it's still happening. It's still happening right now and you're still acting like it's 2016 and I'm not saying

like if you are literally just like using like you're like another one like you're like DJ college like right. Still like the washed up jokes. What's in like a very serious? Like the Nashville filter on the square or something or like the dog. Yeah. The dog. Like we're still doing that like exactly.

For this guy I like him telling Ashley how funny he is. I was like this is the funniest person I've ever met. Every interaction I have with him. is so amazing. And I, it was embarrassing to me. I mean, Ashley can back me up. I mean, this stuff day after day was so bad. Yeah.

And I was like, girl, you sure he's funny? Because what I'm seeing, it doesn't seem like it. Okay. How do you guys feel about, okay, your man, you're in a committed relationship and trust him, but your man follows just a thousand big booty models on Instagram and TikTok and they're just liking it to death. We had this conversation recently. That's a no for me.

My boyfriend doesn't do that. No, no follow. Okay, what if you found out? He's not following that, but he's just randomly going through liking all these strangers' photos. No. See, that's a no. But also, like, I'm on the, I would know. Like, I am on the hunt.

I'm going to know if he's liking. He knows not to do this. Like, it's been established very early. Yeah. He is aware. It's been established very early on in our relationship that, yes, of course, like if you like your friend that's a girl's photo, I'm not going to get mad at that.

But if you are liking, and also like, like Kim Kardashian, the Kardashians fucking Haley Bebo, I don't care about those people. Like actual, like, celebrities, I agree. You should like those photos. Yeah.

But, like, when it's like random Instagram models that, like, have the same amount of following that I do. I was going to say, when it's like us. Yeah, it's like,

it's like us. It's like, yeah. It's like, yeah. No, and girls will comment be like, chillery. I'm my boyfriend's on this app.

But I'm like, you know what? I feel you, but, you know, so I got to post too. So it's kind of, I do feel like a hypocrite in some sense, because I'm like posing hot photos of myself, but then getting mad at my boyfriend if he likes other girls' photos that are kind of the same thing. But he doesn't do that. So there's, he doesn't do that. Establish early on that that, like, I don't fuck with that. Like, why would you be doing that? And when other girls' boyfriends, DM me or like comment on my shit and I see their girlfriends in their photo. I'm like, what's wrong with you? I don't want you liking my photo either. I think this is weird that you're commenting and DMing me when your girlfriend or wife is in your

photo. Yeah, yeah. We, because we were joking about this the other day with us liking men's photos. Yeah. Right? Because we was like, friend, I see you always liking this one guy's pictures. I'm like, yeah, I do. I really like, I don't know. I like all of them. And she was like, see, like, I don't like them because I know I don't want Hank doing like the reverse. I mean, a picture, picture a guy with his fucking full abs out, like, coming out of the ocean. Like, that, like, if, if Hank saw I liked that and then also got, I would get me, he would be like, what, that's not fair. And also, like, Rayne and I talk about this all the time, like, if it's your guy friends, like, you guys, you know what I mean? Like, I have guy friends that will always like my sexy picks that have wives and girlfriends, but their wives and girlfriends know me and they know, you know, like, you know, like, you guys are.

They are friends that are just like gassing me up. Like they'll throw me a flame emoji and they're married. And everybody's fine because it's out in the open. And so it's just there's like layers to this shit, I think. Of when it's like okay. There's so many levels. Definitely. I, you can passively enjoy it.

I don't need you to get in there and follow any of these girls. Use your Vista. It's like a museum. It's like a museum. You can look. Take a gander. But don't take anything. Like, don't touch it.

That's also a good point though. like your actual friends. Like I like all the guys' pictures here, of course, because they're my friends. And they like my shit because they're my friends. Yeah. Okay. Let's just do a couple quickies.

And then we'll move on to some pop culture stuff. Someone asked red flag or deal breaker if he posts inspirational quotes multiple times a day, which I was like multiple times a day. Like multiple times a day is a deal breaker. What's a week red flag? Yeah. Multiple times a day. Deal breaker.

I don't even like guys who work out every day. Like that's awesome. You don't want them to do anything good for themselves every day, right? No, no, like you can be good, but it's like when you're going to make me feel it's an obsession. It's an obsession. Yeah. Yes.

If you're posting inspirational quotes multiple times a day, like you're not okay. You know what I mean? Like you're just, it's a lot for me. It's a lot for me to see. Even like the people that I follow for specifically inspirational quotes. Even to them, I'm like, it's a little extra. You didn't have to do this like multiple times. Like, we get it.

Everyone gets. it. Okay. Do you guys think it's a red flag if he facetunes his pictures too much? Or at all, or at all. Like what about like if you see a guy and like he has whitened his teeth, smooth, he's so crazy. Yeah. I will give a pass on the teeth whitening. I will. Okay. Like, you know, guys deserve to jazz it up too. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You know, and if they like have yellow teeth and they're like, I'm just going to clean this up a little bit. Then 100%, I'm down for it. But if it's combined with, like,

they're blurring out their under eyes and, like, their smile, like, and it's, and then it's like, okay, now that's, that's too much. I will say they can, if they want to get their teeth a little white in, I'll let that go. I think, I think that's fair. I like the support all around. I think if women can do it, men can do it. But if they're, if they're face tuning, selfies and, like, putting it up,

then that's a problem. If they're using the filter on Instagram, that changes your face right now. If you see people using that filter, it's scary. If they're using that, it's definitely a deal breaker. Well, I don't want a guy with a selfie on the feed just as a role. It's kind of a hard and fast rule. Like, if I go to your feet and there's a cell, like not a mirror selfie, you know,

I don't care if guys take photos. They got a new outfit. They want to take a selfie in the mirror. They're wearing a nice suit. You know, whatever it may be. I mean, like, just face. They flipped on that front facing camera and like banged out a selfie. like in the car or whatever.

Like, I don't know, man. I don't know. What's worse? Have you come across this? Have you come across this? I feel like you've seen this. Yeah. Guys post selfies?

Like, I just, they're not. And then if it's a selfie with an inspirational quote as a caption, I'm like, for this reason, I'm out. Right on 100%. I feel like you see it more on, like, dating apps than you see it on Instagram. I feel like there's a ton of selfie picks on like, guys, they're not like good at photos. Like, I mean, I think they should be better. I think that guys should,

should be less stigma around guys being out and being like, hey, man, can you take some pictures of me for my Bumble or Hinge or whatever? Like, that would be better for all of us as opposed to, like, the car selfie. Yeah. What do you, we wanted to just ask you guys, like people, someone, she wrote it really funny. She said, how do I make my Instagram look good? Like, what the fuck am I supposed to post? And I think that we've all had to get more creative. And like, I was never posting selfies much before like even COVID. I just was always out doing stuff. Rain and I were traveling.

We had professional photos, like whatever. And like I think we've all kind of leaned in to selfies and everything and like kind of figured out how to get that fire content like alone at home. And I mean, you guys have boyfriends to take pictures of YouTube. But do you have like tips for people? I definitely, it's, it's, I've had a change because before, uh, maybe like the last year or so, I wasn't posting as many selfies either.

but then I thought about it and was like, okay, so many of the girls that I follow on Instagram that I love post selfies, they look bomb, like, they look great. Like, I'm like, why am I criticizing myself about thinking about posting a selfie? Like, so when I thought about that, I was like, I'm just going to start doing it. And it's good too because I think sometimes like, and especially with COVID when you weren't out anywhere and you're,

you're not going anywhere. And all of a sudden you're like, I haven't posted anything on my feet in months. You're just like, I'm trying to keep it a little active, like, throw on some makeup to your hair, set up the ringlay, and like you're good to go. Yeah, I think it's important to not think about it too much. Yeah. I think once you start overthinking it, then you're like, oh, does this look good? Oh, does it, you know, when you stare at a picture for too long and then you start to think it's weird, then you've crossed the line.

It's kind of just like, if you feel like you're looking good that day, you got a cute outfit on, the lighting is good maybe near a certain window. Just start clicking away. Take a bunch, too. if you're taking a selfie, don't like sit there and just like pose one at a time. Just start snapping away and just and you'll find one in like the 30 that you take. Yeah. And that's so true. If you find the right lighting and you're like, damn, this lighting's good.

Take a picture. Take a selfie. Yeah. Get someone else to take a picture of you. Like, because then that should go like good lighting. It should go on the feed. I feel like you're very good with that. Like when you get a bomb like lighting for a good selfie, it's like this is going up.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you can caption it, found some good lighting, like whatever. But like, Fran, I just feel you so much on that. Like, I was always this like, I'm not a selfie person. I'm not trying to be like a Kim Kardashian always taking selfies.

But then I just leaned in. It was like, people love selfies. Love them. And then I was like, I like other people's selfies. Why can't like, yeah. It's kind of like, bother me when other people do it. Why is it bothering me if I do it? Because we're all about this like self love feeling yourself, like show, you know,

be proud of yourself. And there's nothing that kind of demonstrates that more that like I was feeling myself and I took a selfie and like rain and I have done photo shoots and then the photo that we post on the feed is one we took in the hotel mirror by ourselves you know like it's just sometimes that's the like most fire pick and I just think ultimately it just exudes the like feeling myself vibe and I just think we've all leaned into it and I love to see it Raina has you definitely have I love this idea of also just like snap away keep taking them because I think like what I like to see on other people's feeds is like these not highly produced photo shoots.

I don't love, like, looking to the left. What are you looking at? You know, like, I love these, like, normal. I took a photo myself on my home. You know, we are home so much more. I take photos of myself in the mirror all the time. I take mirror selfies. I'm home.

There's no shame to it, you know? We're not in jet setting. We're not doing all these things we used to do. And I think that people just like, they want to follow you because they want to be a part of your life. And letting them into your life is letting them see your home. How do you work out? What do you eat?

This is this silly thing I did today. And, like, maybe throw something on the feet and you're not sure how it's going to go. and like just try it out. You know, I posted a charcutory board. I was like, no one's going to care about this. I don't post food on my feet anymore. It blew up because people were like,

oh, that's her home. She had friends over. This is what she made. Like, I think people just want to see. And people fucking love the charcuttery boards. Who doesn't fuck with the charcuttery board. So listen, I know that like it can feel a little vain to take photos of yourself in the mirror.

But like, yeah, sometimes I'm just feeling myself when I want to do it. And that's, you know, then you get like your hype squad around you and they like it. Absolutely. Absolutely. And then all your friends are like, oh, my God, you look great. And you're like, no, you look great.

You're posting it. Also, I would say good test is posting on your story first and then seeing like what people reply to that. And if they're like, oh, my mom, great picture, like, you know, hitting the flame emoji. Then you're like, okay, this is going to the feed. Yeah. And also just like the other day, I have this new little phone stand thing that I love. And I set it up with, we have this like pink neon light.

And I like set it up and just, you know, my leg was up in the air. It's on my feet. But I feel like people may think that feel silly or they feel stupid or they think it's vain or whatever. But I think just own it. Like I'm having a great time. Like the light, I got this pink neon lighting. I have a phone stand. I'm just going to set a timer and like bang it out.

And I think if you have somebody to take photos, you great. But like if not, like get a ringlight and get a phone stand and just start taking photos. Like have your own photo shoot. Like I think we see that all the time. It's not vain to like feel yourself. You know what I mean? I feel like a lot of times, originally, and now I think people have gotten over it,

where I would post a lot of pictures of myself, just because I'm like, I like my outfit. I like how I look today. And guys are always like, oh, you love attention. I'm like, first of all, yeah, that's why I'm doing a job. It's mine. Yeah, I do enjoy attention. But also, like, why can't I just feel good about myself

without being called, like, conceited or vain? It's always like women are always like called, like, conceited because they're feeling good about themselves, when everybody should just feel good about themselves. Yeah, and aren't you on this page and following me? Because you want to see photos of me? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly.

It always looks better now, I think, to be more real and to show those things, like, look cute today. And it's not as curated. I feel like a lot of times, like, I found myself following less people that have, like, crazy curated feeds where, you know, the Instagram influencer, so much of where that started was like, oh, we were following all these people who, their photos were like the streets of Paris

in London and New York and they're posing in the streets and they have these fabulous outfits. And now it's kind of like, I don't really want to follow those people anymore. I just, I kind of want like more real life. So much is still so curated that now because there are so many people who share their real life,

it's like, well, this is just fake as fuck. I just think that's why TikTok has gotten so popular. It's like this authenticity. Like, you know, I started getting on TikTok and like it's just a girl with no makeup busting into the bathroom, to rant into the mirror, you know, in her pajamas. Like, it's just not, yes, we see beautiful faces and we see makeup and curated looks,

but the content feels more authentic. And it's just like, what is on people's mind? Like, yes, of course, like choreographed dances and all that stuff. But I think there's what people really gravitate towards is like just people being themselves. Well, I like the move towards authenticity. At least people are trying, I guess. Some people miss the mark. But I like the people are at least trying.

And if your whole Instagram feed now, it's just me or something, fuck it. whatever, you know? If that's what you enjoy, do what you like. Okay. Can we move into some pop culture stuff? You girls? Raina, do you want to pick one from the list? Yeah, I want to talk about Scott Dissick. No, I'm really proud of him for consistently just dating younger and dumping the next girl, you know, when another 19 year old comes along. Now, I think it's interesting that the world is so horrified by this because like that's the pattern. Like, are we surprised by this? Do we expect more from this?

I don't know. What are your guys' take on it? I've now kind of realized that I feel like Scott is just like killing time. Like I just, you know, like he's dating these younger women and he's dying his hair and he's doing all these things. Yeah, it looks like I fear. Yeah.

Yeah. He's saying his hair pink and like, I think he has like a mohawk or something. But I don't know. I think after I saw there was like one teaser for the Kardashians, right? And everybody was freaking out over in the new season because they were joking like, oh, we all know, you know, Scott and Courtney are going to make it work in the future. And the way Scott talked about it, it was literally a 30 second clip. So who knows if that was

like out of context or whatever. But like the look on Scott's face just made me think that he is just waiting for Courtney to give him like the go. And until she does that, he is going to continue to date these younger girls. Like he and Sophia Richie apparently broke up because, you know, the age difference. And they were having problems. They were at different points in their life. It makes me think like, oh, maybe Scott thought like he had the opening and it was, and thought it was open. And Corey starts dating Travis Barker.

And where does Scott go? Amelia Gray. Like, he's like, all right, we're going 19 again. Kill some time. See if this Travis Barker thing works out. And if it doesn't, like, then I'll dump Amelia Gray. I don't, it's. Yeah, I don't know.

I love Scott Dissick. I think he's hilarious. So I've always loved him on the show. I'm just confused about how to feel about what's, happening because I feel like I see so many different opinions where like my usual initial thought would be like I don't know why anybody is surprised by this like yes it's like yeah he's dating a 19 year old girl and he's he's older than that it's Scott does like also this is like Hollywood it's not the most unusual thing but I feel like I'm seeing more and more people talk about how weird it is

for somebody his age to be doing somebody who's 19 who's closer in age closer in age to his son than she is to him. And it started opening up my mind a little bit to it more because I would never date somebody that's that much older than me for those reasons being like you're just so much older. I don't think like this just feels weird. So I'm definitely understanding that side of it like a lot more now that are people talking talking about a lot more. Because I do feel like it is something that kind of was just like swept under the rug for so long. Like, oh yeah, it's Hollywood. People older guys date younger women. Leonardo DiCaprio. He dates all these young models. And his girlfriend

had been together for years. They've been to have a while, though. So I guess, you know, good to them. But I, I, it is a little strange when you think like, why not somebody in their late 20? Why she was a 19 year old. She can't legally drink at a restaurant. Like, I think that's the cutoff. Like, I think it's like, oh, 18 is legal.

But I think it should be changed to like, right. Let's do 21 when they're able to drink because this is a not a lot of dinner. Right. Exactly. I don't think, does he even drink? Scott to signal it doesn't really matter but so well it just it feels weird that you're going for that you he what's he 38 37 you're going for barely legal like I just I hate the thought of it and I think that like those are still by definition teenagers right like you're still a teen and I know that you're over 18 and um you know if women can do what they want to do but I just think we see too

too much bad stuff come of these things like we've seen with Marilyn Manson with Army Hammer where these women are being manipulated by an older man with power who they, you know, look up to. And they, years later, they're like, I was manipulated because I was young. And I know people can fall in love and, you know, at all different ages. But when I see it as a consistent pattern of like, you just date 19 year old after 19 year or after 19 year. And you're like almost 40. Like it just, it bothers me.

And I for the women, I guess. You know what I mean? Like I'm not accusing Scott to stick of anything in the realm of assault, abuse. Anything like Army Hammer and Marilyn Manson, I'm just kind of making the parallel. But I'm just want to be very clear that I'm not making those accusations for him. Ultimately, I mean, it goes about saying I just worry for the women. These girls, I think right now think, and this, I mean, I'm, I don't really know for a fact. But I just feel like they feel like they're also older than they actually are because they've grown up in this environment.

Like, you know, Sophia Ritchie and, and, you know, having a famous dad. And the same with Amelia and Delilah, like being on. for a hot stories of Beverly Hills and Lisa Rinnett being their mom. And I just feel like they're, they have like an accelerated lifestyle. So when they get to this point and they're 19, like to them, they've been working.

They've been modeling. They've been traveling the world that in their minds, like they have the money. Like, yeah, like they're adults. Like they don't really think of themselves as kids still. So I feel like sometimes it's easy for us to be like, look, they're 19. They're so young.

But sometimes I really think these girls in their minds, think that they're a lot older than they actually are too. Right. And they've just been treated that way. Like I bet their parents, I'm not saying that they're not around all the time, but when I feel like when you are that famous and you have that much money in those sort of families, you got like nannies taking care of you. You know, the parents are checking in every once in a while, but they're traveling. They're doing their own thing. They're worried about their own career. So I do feel like they are growing up. They grow faster, for sure. I agree with that. Yeah. I think it's I'm glad that we're talking about it.

I'm glad that like you said, Marilyn Manson and people like this that were actually talking about these age differences. And at least for me with Amelia, like her anxiety issues and just mental health issues were pretty highly publicized on the Real Housewives. So to see somebody who's so much older than go after a person who had such highly publicized emotional anxiety issues is a little alarming. But I also think that her parents seem pretty involved, at least. As far as we know, like when we see on TV, they do seem pretty involved.

So, yeah. Right. But you can also see Lisa Rina being like so down for this. Yeah, I can see her cheering. Right. Like, yeah. What do you? Are you, is there this, is there a rumor about Kim and Drake?

Is that even a thing? Is that picking up steam? Oh, that's always been picking up steam for years now. It's been, so I'm very into this rumor. Yes, you love. There has been rumors that obviously Drake fucked Kim Kardashian. And in the song, Sicko mode, he said, prep down the block, made a right, shut the,

lights. And so they live, if you look at the map of where Drake lives to Kim Kardashian's house, it's literally like down the block until the right. And so people thought that was him like putting that little message out there. And then recently he put out a song where he was like, I need to talk to Yeezy. I need Jesus. But if I told him my sins, he wouldn't believe us. So they're like, oh, shit. He's basically saying if I sat down and was like, I fuck Kim Kardashian. He wouldn't believe us. So there's all these, there's more than that, but all these signs are pointing to that Drake fucked Kim, Pradeshian, but Kanye's denied it. Kim's denied it. I think he did. I kind of believe it more now post-divorce, right? And they were still together and like happy

that it's very easy to believe like, okay, they denied it. It's not true. But knowing that they've probably been on the rocks for like a really long time, it makes you think like, could be possible. I think Drake fought. I think he did. What do you guys? think about the song Kiki actually being about Kim Kardashian and that it's so public, do you think it could be about her? Yes. I

think that Drake puts things out in the open for people and people don't grab onto it enough. He's like, I'm trying to tell you guys. Like, literally all the time that he cares. Like Drake, not even that nobody cares, people just think that Drake is like

this like soft guy who just like love all the time. his new album is coming out. It's called Certified Lover Boy, because that's just like what people see Drake as. But I think he blatantly tells people things in his songs that people just pass by, like X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X,

who was shot and killed. Him and Drake got into some kind of fight. I don't really know exactly what happened. But then X, X, X, X, X, X, X, Tweeted, like, like, if I die, it was Drake. And then he got shot, died, and Drake put in his song, SMS triple X, that's the only time I shoot below the neck.

And he got shot in his chest, I'm pretty sure. And obviously, SMS, triple X, that's the only time I shoot below my neck is like a dick pick, obviously. It means that. But if you're really going to die my way, SMS, SMS, they thought meant send my shooters, triple X, that's the only time I shoot below the neck. Is Drake a murderer? that Drake got, not Drake himself, but Drake got people to murder. Like Biggie and Park. Oh my God.

I can't. That's a, yeah, that's definitely. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. She's just analyzing Drake's lyrics. I love it. First of all, I love Drake. And this stuff doesn't turn me off to him. It only turns me on to Drake.

He's got some edge because we didn't, we didn't see it coming. Guys, we don't support murder, obviously. No, we don't. Trust me. I've made a joke. like the theory about Taylor Swift and Harry Stiles that they killed somebody and they like ran away from it. I was like that made me love.

Oh, you don't know those? I don't do a conspiracy. Here's another deep conspiracy. There's a theory that Taylor Swift and Harry Siles killed somebody together because of many songs that they both have together are like hinting at it that they got into a car accident, killed somebody left, led the scene.

And I was like, honestly, ah, that makes me like, Sal's even more and people were not happy with that. But I was clearly joking. I was clearly joking. People were not happy. It's all jokes, guys. It's a comedy podcast. Okay, can we talk about Harry and Olivia?

Which, let me just say straight out of the gate. Like, I date younger guys. So I am super into this. But what do you guys think? Well, I'm on board for anything Harry Seals does. And I do love Olivia Wilde. And Olivia Wilde and Jason Sadeke is together. I loved there as a couple.

I thought they were like one of the greatest like celebrity couples just because they're both so funny and cool. but then when I heard Olivia and Harry were together, I was like, yeah, I support that. But then there were rumors. Everything was a little wishy-washy because they had said that Olivia and Jason broke up in January of last year.

And then Olivia and Harry started dating in the fall when they started doing their movie. But then once that came out, they were like, oh, no, no, no. Harry Styles is a time record. Yeah, they started changing the timelines to make Jason today could seem like he was all heartbroken.

Yeah. I, if I was a single lady, I would pursue Jason Sedakis because I can then make Olivia Wilde jealous with Jason Stadakis and then they end up back together and then I get Harry Stiles. Oh. Oh, this is a plan. What does Hank think about this? This is some deep station.

He hasn't heard any of that. Hank, if you're listening, this sounds pretty well thought out. I don't think it's a joke. Listen, I'm not saying Olivia would be jealous. of me, but I would perform. I would entertain. I would really, like, show Jason off. People are into, like, people are, like, love that he's on the market. I feel like I'm seeing a lot of that. 100%. 100%. And I feel like the whole, like, Jason Sadecass is heartbroken,

tabloid situation that we're getting right now is very much making more people just love Jason Satekis. And I'm into Harry and Olivia. I would never have put those two together. But Olivia seems so cool. And Harry loves older women, like, has, has always loved older women, has always dated older women. And so, like, this to me feels like almost like the ultimate older woman for him to date. It's like the perfect, if he was going to pick someone in who's in their, you know, mid-30s, who he was like, okay, I'm going to, like, I'm going to pursue this, this celebrity. She makes a lot of sense for the two of them. I think they connect on, like, a deep level and they're both, I feel like they're both like artsy and, I don't know,

but it doesn't seem like Olivia and Jason are like making it work. I think they're in London right now because he's filming Ted Lasso. So like she's out there so that they can all be together like as a family because obviously Jason has to quarantine until Ria shows up and gets her plan in motion. Okay, well I'm going to throw a wrench into this mix. Ria and you tell me how you're going to handle this. Jason Sadecas's rumored girlfriend is Keeley Hazel. Do we know about this?

I don't know who that is. We know she exists. She's an actress. She's an actress. She's not very well known. Yeah, not very well known. She's been a friend of Jason Senekees for a while. And so they're apparently dating.

Had a role in horrible bosses too. Yes. And also in Ted Lassow. And he also named a character Keeley in Ted Lassow. So I feel like you don't name somebody Keeley because that's not a common name. Unless you had a crush the company named a whole character, Keeley. Yes.

But now all these, these rumors are swirling. She stepped out in a tie-dye hoodie that he had been wearing a day previously so people think that they're together now. I don't know. A picture in front of the same fireplace that he was in front of

when he accepted the Golden Globes. As long as Jason Seacas is happy. I don't know if Jason Stakes. Like I swear to God, I've been thinking about it more and more recently. Like how badly I want to fuck Jason Stagas I don't know. Was that one of the drunk podcasts?

Yes. When we did it with Tyler and I was like started going on a tangent about how I want to fuck Jason Stadakis. We were both very drunk and very. I was like, I'm the number one person I would go after Jason Sadekis and we were like since then we were talking about Harry because I love Harry. Like Harry Siles is like my number one. I love Harry Styles.

But then I was like, I don't know all this talk about him. I was like, I don't know like Jason's so funny. And he's like hot. I don't know. I like really want to. when it comes out that you guys are rumored to be dating people are going to be like she told everybody just like drake she told everybody on the girl's got a podcast like it's like it's been out there for a while guys we all knew we all saw this coming okay so we haven't just a couple more things um

everybody wants to talk about the bachelor i mean i feel like we've all seen so much bachelor stuff i feel like we're probably all on the same page in that we i assume stand with rachel lindsay and we are obviously denounce the racism that has happened within the show this season. I think that goes without saying. So you guys cover this all the time. We've spoken on it a little bit. So I guess since as this episode comes out, the finale is tonight. I mean, how are you guys feeling?

Just in general. I mean, what are your thoughts? Pretty ready for this season to end. It's been a problem. And what's tough, obviously, there's been so many issues. and you've seen how some of these women have been treated this season and you've seen what's gone on with Rachel Lindsay and Chris Harrison and everything that's happened.

And because of what's gone down with Rachel on that season, it just kind of feels like even if you avoid spoilers or don't look at it, you kind of have the general idea of what's going to happen. Like you don't think Chris Harrison goes on and talks to Rachel Lindsay and defends Rachel Kirkano as much as he did without like trying to make her look as good as he possibly can because she wins. I mean, you know, because it's like what's the point of defending her so hard? Like if it was any other contestant, I think that would have gone very differently. They would have let Rachel Kirkana maybe speak beforehand.

I think the show tried to silence her early on just because they, didn't want that out there because like then it ruins the show. It ruins the love story. That's the whole magic that they that they want to want to create. So now it's just like, let's wrap it up. I'm really excited for Emmanuel Acho. I think he's going to be great fan. Huge fan of him. And I think he is awesome. So we're excited to just see how he handles this whole thing and how Matt handles it all. I can't like Matt, we posted this on the Chicks of the off its Instagram and it kind of ties into like the Megan Markle stuff. He tweeted out like, have you been silenced or were you silenced?

Oprah was spitting bars with that one. Yes, yes. And Matt tweeted that out and wrote, hmm. And it was like, hmm, like, are you trying to send us a little little message here? Because I 100% could believe that. Yeah, I just don't feel like we know him that much. I don't really feel like I know anybody. Like I feel like I didn't know Brie.

And then he, then she went home. I'm like, wait, is Bree the most gorgeous person that's, ever been on the show. Like, I've always been team Michelle since their first date, but I think we all kind of have a vibe. This is not a spoiler. I haven't read any spoilers. I think we all kind of feel like Rachel's going to win, but like I do love Michelle. I really hope Matt is able to share some of his actual opinions when speaking with Emmanuel. I think he'll feel more comfortable in that setting. Because I would really love to hear from Matt. Like I just, like you said, we don't, we haven't really heard from him at all. And Matt's fantastic. He's really,

like one of the nicest guys. Like we know Matt. Like he really is great. So like we just haven't seen him. He hasn't been given the opportunity to like be himself and speak and really show off who he is. So hopefully they give him one chance at the end of the show. Yeah.

Do you guys think Claire and Dale are back together? Oh, God. I'm going to walk away. I like, I'm at like my like, Ria is so out on Claire. Ria is so out on Clarendale. it's like, I'm so, I'm just, I feel like the past two seasons have taken literally years off of my life. They were back to back. And it feels draining. Like, I'm so tired of talking about these people. Like,

I'm sure once it ends and there's like a little break, I'm going to be like, oh, I miss the bachelor. I want to act so bad. Oh, I don't care. I don't care. Like all these like, oh, you know, like, are they back to? I don't give a fuck about them. Like, I really don't. And I know that people get mad when I say that because they're like, well, this is what you guys talk about. It's like, yeah, but I'm also allowed to say that I don't care about them. Like, that's also an opinion that I have. I echo what you say. I actually really don't care. And let's move on.

People definitely care, though. Like, I don't want to take that away from people. I'm done with it. No, I'm done with it. I'm done with it. But we want to wrap up with the question that everybody wants to talk about, which is the recent Prince Harry, Megan Markle, interview with Oprah. Of course, before the interview came out, Bethany Frankel released all these texts,

all these tweets on this, you know, oh, poor you, poor little girl tweet before even hearing the interview. Since the interview, Pierce Morgan has criticized Megan Markle. He has since stepped down from his show because the stuff he said was so crazy. Personally, and I would love to hear your guys' take on this, personally, I'm just not a big stand of the British monarchy.

I don't follow it. I remember, like, woke up to watch the weddings. I don't care about it. Like, I almost didn't even watch the interview because I was like, I don't know if I need to hear about this, but seeing snippets of it, it was so fascinating just to sort of lift back the curtain a little bit more and see an American's view on this. So what are your opinions on what's going on and the interview itself?

That's exactly my feelings. So you've pretty much covered my base. I don't care about the royal family. And I think people who praise them are kind of strange, Fran. I, my entire high school, we watched Will and Kate's wedding. I got up on my own in my boyfriend's apartment. I had my little fascinator that I put on for myself to watch Harry and Megan's wedding. I find them fascinating.

I really do. Like I think that there is a, you know, there's so many celebrities that we find fascinating. we want to know so much of their life. And even like the more secretive celebrities, you want to know, you want to know more. And these are historical like figures. But they're also, you know, quasi-ce celebrities. And it's definitely whatever growing up.

And it's the princes and the princesses and the love stories and whatever. Like I was obsessed with Will and Kate. Like I have, I bought the Lifetime movie on iTunes that I, like I said, I have always found the royal family. fascinating. And so this was like so in depth and so the reality that I think so many people always thought was the case within them. People love to joke like, oh, they're doing shady shit behind the scenes like and all these things. Then you see the crown and people start to,

like people watch the crown and it's like, okay, there's definitely, there's some things that they, that they messed up on or it's very dramatic and more than we think. And this just kind of confirmed all that, which I think makes it even juicier. It's like, okay, they're doing some shady shit behind the scenes. Like, they have an operation going on that

is unlike anything we have in our country. I like 100%. Like, they have got some crazy shit going on over there. And I like that she acknowledged that like it's not like Hollywood. And I thought it was, you know,

I think Anthony Frankel's criticism was that like Megan Marco was saying like, you know, poor me. And I didn't feel that vibe in the interview. I didn't feel like she was asking for sympathy. I didn't think that she wanted to point the finger and make other people look bad. I think this is somebody saying I was suffering from mental health issues. I was suicidal. The interview was like it was pretty disgusting.

I mean, it was just like it was the blatant racism. It was them ignoring the cries for help. Like it was, I just want to make that clear. Like it was painful to watch. It was like, of course we could have guessed that this monarchy, this institution was, was rooted in racism like a lot of institutions are. But I hope it changes. But also that's not the country that I live in.

And I'm like Rayna where I just haven't ever been like super invested. And I think that the only thing I thought was so crazy all these years was just the way people treated Megan Markle. And like even Americans that were obsessed with a world family the way they would hate on her. Like I thought it was so cool that this woman who was an American, who was a woman of color who was a divorce day, like all these things

could just go in there and kind of shake things up and it's like, what happened was she was like abused for, you know, and like to the point that she felt suicidal. So it was all just so disturbing. But I guess on the bright side,

they like probably will live a happier life. Like once the dust settles. Like it seems like this is what they, the life they were meant to live is more. It's just normal. Not normal. They'll have to live with security. And they'll never be, quote,

unquote normal, but like, I like that. Not in a prison. Yeah, not in a prison. And so that's what I just like, the Bethany Frankel thing. Rain and I have liked her. We respect what she does in the charitable side. But like this whole crime of a river, it's like, what, because she's, she's royalty. She lives in a prison.

She can't go to lunch. Like nobody wants to live like that. You know? Right. I, the thing is, like I said, like, I don't care about the royal family, but I'm now invested invested after all this came out because that's part of the reason I wasn't into the royal family. It kind of just freaked me out thinking.

about, like, I remember years ago when we first started the podcast or even just on the radio show, somebody sent in the question. It was like, would you rather be a part of the Kardashians? Or would you rather be a part of the royal family? And I was like, the Kardashians, any day of the week, why would I want to be a part of the royal family where I have to follow all these rules?

And Megan made that very clear in her interview. And I just think the whole thing is fucked up. And I said on our podcast recently, I was like, I'd love to know what people in the UK actually feel about it because on the outside, looking in, you're like, okay, their tax dollars are going to this family. They're making money off of people. They, like you said, it's rooted in racism. This whole institution, it's just a lot of shit seems off and you're, you're just kind of like, why do people praise them so much? Just because

of history, just because this has been the thing, just because of the title of like Prince, Princess Queen. Like, that's why people bow down to them. But at the end of the day, are they good people? No. Like, they're definitely not. And I, I don't know how anybody could watch. that interview and think, oh, Megan Markle is looking for sympathy. Do you think that literally any person that would have stepped into the role that Megan Markle did would have,

maybe not any person, maybe if they were white, they maybe not have, would have experienced things she did. But she's in it. She's telling you what she experienced. Also straight up said, like, I'm not trying to disparage Kate. I'm not trying to put down the queen. I'm just saying the institution, themselves, whoever it is,

this is how they treated me. You really think she would make that shit up? Why would why would she make that up? And people were saying, oh, she manipulated Harry. No, sometimes it just takes somebody else stepping in from the outside to be like, this isn't right. Whatever's happening here is not right for you to open up your eyes and be like, you know what?

You're right. This isn't right. My eyes are opening. And it's like growing up. I think Harry always wanted. Right. And it just like growing up literally and not just in real family. He's like, fuck this.

The whole time he was like, the history is that, you know, I watched this happen to my mom. I watched them do this to her. She's widely publicized to have had all kinds of anxiety issues, eating disorder issues throughout her entire time, part of the royal family. And then, I mean, of course, she was killed by the paparazzi. And I loved, I mean, if you asked me how this book ends, I would think, you know, that Prince Harry would have divorced her, left her stuck with the family. But I love that this man, like, stood up for his wife and was like, I watched you do this to my mother. I'm not going to let you do this to the mother of my children. Like, I thought it was like a beautiful thing.

I agree. I agree. And, you know, it was very telling when he was like, look, I was trapped. My brother, my father, they're trapped. Like, I just imagine the institution, right? The family, the staff, whoever, like, they live in those walls and in those walls. It's the monarch above all else. Like, their sense of reality, like, just doesn't exist. And so, like, everything they do is in the name of protecting the monarch. And I just feel like they are acting in 2021. same way we watched in scenes of the crowd that they acted in 1957. Like it's like the same, they handle things the same way. It's high things, get rid of people, do all those kinds of things. And then, you know, a clip from John Oliver has been going viral again on Twitter of him talking about before the wedding of like, the girl family, like, this isn't probably

going to work. Like everyone is romanticizing this right now, but Megan entering this family, she might regret doing this. she might back out the last minute. This could be a problem. And having the two of them pull the plug makes the most sense. Well, and I love that you guys

on your, on like a lighter note, on your, I think it was an Instagram video you posted of like you, you're like, we stand with Megan Markle, we believe Megan Markle, but we don't believe that she didn't Google her. That was the one lie. She did not lie during that interview, but that was a lie. And just like, the Googling aside, it's like, okay, fine. What are you saying? You're better than all this fine.

But also just like that she didn't think. she needed to act differently. Like, I'm not even into the royal family, and I am not claiming to, like, really know. But I think I would be in the car on the way to meet the queen of fucking England. And I would say, how do I act? Do I need to curtsey?

Like, it was so funny to me. Like, again, I believe her. I'm not calling her liar, but her mind obviously operates differently than mine would. And it was just so funny that she was like, I just thought it was like meeting any other famous person. It's like, bitch, it is the queen. Like, I don't like subscribe to this thing.

But like, even I know that I, I know it's your man's grandma, but it's like, I would be like, tell me everything to do top to bottom. Am I dressed okay? What do I need to do? Like, how she was just like, oh, we're just going to go meet his grandma. And I don't know how to cursing. Like, that's no big deal. Like, it's just a famous person.

I was like, girl, no. Ashley, thank you for speaking the hard truth. Because this is how I felt. And they were, Oprah was like, okay, but if you didn't have a courtesy, like, why didn't you just Google it? And she was like, we were in the car. Like, we were in the car. What are you mean? Megan Markle, Michael, Google works in the car.

She said, we were in the car. I couldn't Google it. We were already in the car. It did start on a little, I was a little suss. I was like side eye in the beginning. I was like, I never Googled my husband. Bitch, please. I Google every person I go on a day with. I Google John Smith who works at Salesforce.

That's what I'm saying. I Google random ass people all day every day. Like, I'm just Googling people to find out information about them. I think, I think she was trying to like really put emphasis on the fact that she didn't, didn't know what the royal family was all about. So in order to drive that point home, it's like, no, I didn't do any research.

I didn't look into it at all. Instead of being like, oh, I kind of half-assed my research and didn't go. But not being said, like, Fran, like even somebody like you, like you know everything about them. You're like a stand. You would have no idea once you got in it. Like it is so much different once you're in it.

Like I said to my roommate, like, I was like, I pay attention to what they do. And I would think like, oh, I have an idea of what it would be like. I think you do not know. But at the end of the day, like, You have absolutely no idea, not a clue. Until you're living it, you have no idea. I don't want, and I've never even wanted to be like a famous person.

So like I always said, like, I want to be able to walk down the street. I want to live a nice life and have nice luxuries. But no amount of money to me is worth not having any privacy or freedom. Anyway, but I'll end it there. We've been like had your girls for like so long now, but I'm glad we can talk about it. Well, we are so glad to have had you guys. Thank you so much. I know that everybody is going to want to follow you everywhere.

And you both have much. multiple podcasts. So tell me where they can find you. Your Instagram handles, all the things. All right. I'll go first. So on Twitter, you can find me at Marshall Fran on Instagram at Francesca Mariano. We're at Chicks in the Office on Instagram, Chicks in the Off on Twitter. I do a football podcast with Casey Smith who works here as well. And that's the dime package. So if you have any interest in the NFL, you can follow us at the dime package on social as well. And You can listen to it wherever podcasts are found. My Twitter is Barcelona.

My Instagram is Maria Chiffo, C-I-U-F-O, because, you know, that's not easy. Chicks in the office everywhere. And then I have a podcast called Because We Got High with Kelly Kiggs, who works here, and then Brianna Chicken Fry, if you know her from TikTok. She's very popular on TikTok. Just about everything. Like, it's really not about anything. We go through the alphabet.

Each episode is a different letter from the alphabet. and we pick three words that go with that letter and then dive into it. So you can... Oh, I love that. That's fun. Well, thanks, girls, so much for being here. You guys will all love their podcast and their Instagrams. Go find it.

If you want to hear our episode and Chicks Me Off, it's July 15th, 2019. It was a very fun episode. It was a great time. That was a long time ago. You guys could come back on soon? Yeah. Anytime. All right.

We love you, girls, so much. Definitely. Thank you again. Thanks for having us, guys. Thank you so much. And you guys know where to find us. Girls Gotta Eat Podcast.com. Get on those Florida shows.

Girls Gotta Eat Podcast on Instagram. Ash Hess, reina. dot Greenberg on Instagram. Girls underscore got to eat on Twitter and YouTube.com slash girls got to eat. And that's all. Thanks, guys. Have a great week.

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