Girls Gotta Eat - Do It for the 'Gram

Episode Date: December 2, 2019

You can't deny that social media matters when it comes to dating, and we're discussing every stage of it: The BEFORE (behavior on social media when you're looking for a partner), DURING (going Insta-o...fficial, to post or not to post, etc.) and AFTER (deleting pics post-breakup and more). We also play an extra hilarious round of Fuck My Phone and catch up on everything from celeb sightings to documentaries to guys gone wild on dating apps. Enjoy and #StayBlessed! Follow us on Instagram @GirlsGottaEatPodcast, Rayna @Rayna.Greenberg, and Ashley @AshHess. Check our website for tour dates and merch. Thank you to our partners for this episode: Aurate: Get 15% off your first purchase at auratenewyork.com/gge and use code GGE. Billie: Go now to save 10% off your razor at mybillie.com/gge. Article: Get $50 off your first order of $100 or more at article.com/gge. Bioclarity: Take 15% off everything at bioclarity.com with code GGE. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wait, your ex that you said didn't ever post you. Did you post him? No. You guys do not care about each other. Welcome back to another episode of Girls Gotta Eat. Happy December. Favorite month. I'm like so smiley today.
Starting point is 00:00:33 I know. It's 52 degrees. Sunny. Well, it was sunny. Now it's dark. Three hours ago. Three clear skies. The crisp day.
Starting point is 00:00:41 It is crisp. It was crisp. Ashley asked me to come over at two and then it turned into three. Now it's 5.30 and we're finally recording. You said you need to stop. is 2 p.m. charade. It's never 2 p. Every single day you say, come over a 2, then I know it's going to be
Starting point is 00:00:54 2.30 and you change it to 3 because I text you 245 and you're like, I have a shower. So I work out at 1230. Okay, whatever. Anyway, every week never fails. Well, welcome back guys from your Thanksgiving break. I hope everybody had a great time. Like we're in college. Winter break. I hope you enjoyed your Thanksgiving
Starting point is 00:01:10 meals and all the stuffing. Okay, we can get housekeeping out of the way. New merch came out. You guys stormed the store. I love it. So I'm so proud of what we created. All the crop hoodies, crop stuff, t-shirts, a pillow. We got a hot fire pillow. All the, all the sayings that you guys. So thank you. And we have all of our holiday deadlines online for you guys. If you're wondering. The crop toadies incredible. Man, that pillow. It's my favorite time. I am the mug. You don't live here anymore, bitch. We were sitting around
Starting point is 00:01:38 with Leah, our designer, and we're like, how do we kind of make this special? And I don't even know who said it. So somebody was like, what about like a kid drawing? It might have been her idea. Okay, you were like, in two seconds, she drew it. So that is truly the most custom thing on the menu is that you don't live here anymore, bitch. It's so, it makes me laugh out loud. It's so funny. Also, like you, the very last thing that you said, you were like, why don't we just do some like collegiate lettering? And I was like, eh, I don't care about this.
Starting point is 00:02:03 I saw it on stuff and it's my favorite thing. Well, I just started realizing like GGE, like, oh, you know, it's like a sorority or a school. And like, let's make it big block Greek-ish. I love it. And then I said, I texted Raina, I said, our sorority is called Gamma Gamma Epsilon. And you were like, is that good? I was like, no, it's not a real thing. It's just that it would be in Greek.
Starting point is 00:02:25 It's Gamma, Gamma, Epp. I just thought, like, you know, there's some sororities and attorneys that are, like, known for a thing. Yeah. Being rich girls or slutty girls or something. Well, it's not one that exists. It's like probably a chapter of like something else. But like, yeah, so gamma gamma F is our sorority. And it's my favorite thing that we've designed.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I'm so glad that you came up with the idea because I just love it so, so much. Tickets are on sale for a lot of shows. You guys can get them as holiday presents for each other. Ask your parents for them. We have released another night in Houston, just in case you guys can't come on Thursday night. We did Wednesday night of that week. I forget if it's the 26th and the 27th.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Does that sound right to you? 25th and 26th. Yeah, that sounds right. Whatever, you guys look it up. So a couple of you've DMed us, you know, I got Wednesday tickets. Yes, they're live. You can get them.
Starting point is 00:03:08 They're valid tickets. Okay, yeah. Two nights in Houston, Dallas, Austin, L.A., Will-turned theater, going to be incredible. And D.C. may or may not be sold out. But I think that's all we got. And then next week, loose promise, loosely promising that we should have Australia next week. I don't fucking know.
Starting point is 00:03:26 And maybe Florida. You know? And maybe Philly. Don't say it. Don't say it, Philly. They are crazy. If we say it and we don't do it, maybe Philly before the end of the year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Before the holidays. So that your boyfriends can buy you the tickets. That's what I'm aiming for. You're your daddies. Your real daddies. Your sugar daddies and your real daddies. Or your biological daddies. My biological daddy hasn't bought me anything in so long.
Starting point is 00:03:57 He'll buy you tickets to your own show. Yeah. Last year he was like, how many comps can I get? I was like, you're not going to buy any tickets, huh? Oh, my God. Thanks a lot. Yeah, my biological daddy hasn't bought me a birthday present or a holiday present in like two decades probably. What?
Starting point is 00:04:12 He sent me like a hundred bucks when I moved into my new apartment. Kill it. Buy yourself something pretty. Cool. Thanks, dad. I have everything. Thanks, Daddy. Oh, my God. Is that everything's not all of our housekeeping stuff? I think so. That's it. Oh, yeah. You guys just, you know, when you buy merch, just make sure you entered your address correctly.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Just a small thing. The amount of emails we get, oh, my God, I put in my address wrong. Listen, we are going to fix it, but maybe we might stop. Guys, just double-check your address. We love you so much. We love you so much. We love me so much. We love us so much. Just know your address. We know you get excited. You know what I mean? You know you just like get excited.
Starting point is 00:04:53 You're like, oh my God. That wasn't it. Right. And then we get an email. Like I put my address in wrong. We're like, we're not saying you're dumb. But maybe you just need to be a little more detail oriented. Somebody sent me an email.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Let me, you and me. Hey, I just placed an order. I need to cancel it and order something else. I'm like, but it's just 12 minutes ago. I know. All right. We love you guys. Anyway, we love you guys.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I've had an amazing week. A lot happened, and I'm just going to talk about it. Ashley was like, do you need to talk about it? I was like, do you need to talk about? I was like, not really. I saw Dear Evan Hansen. So this musical is a few years old, so it's appropriate that I'm reviewing it now. Thank God. Not a hot take.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Dear Evan Hansen's been on Broadway for years. I've been wanting to see it so much. And full disclosure, I was given tickets from the PR company. It was just great. You know, like I was waiting to get like good seats. I brought my mom. My mom came in town. and so when they sent me the press release on Dear Evan Hansen,
Starting point is 00:05:48 which, by the way, amazing show. I loved it. I cried a lot. You guys could guess that. I cried everything. Really loved it. I didn't know what it was about at all. I thought it was going to be more about like bullying when it comes to the internet.
Starting point is 00:06:00 And it wasn't. But a lot of internet stuff. Whatever. I can't recommend enough. Amazing show. So they were like, the kid that's playing Evan Hanson is 17, which is so admirable.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Like seven fucking teen. You know, so I was like so excited to see this kid play Evan Hanson. And I get to the show just out not being a creep because it's like so impressive. That's like a high schooler, you know? I didn't have any skills until I was 28 at least. Right. So I am like, I see who's playing Evan Hanson.
Starting point is 00:06:24 I'm like, he's kind of hot. And I feel like a fucking creep. Like there, I was like saying the whole show like, I cannot think this guy's hot. I cannot think this guy's hot. He's 17 years old. Like Ashley, I mean, I'm not saying that's full-blown pedophilia, but like I got to get a hold on myself. It sort of is. So after the show, I was looking at.
Starting point is 00:06:42 at their Instagram and I tagged them and stuff. And I was like still like excited about like reeling from the show. And I realized that who was like playing Evan Hanson that mostly on Broadway is not who I had seen. So I dug a little deeper and realized that I saw the alternate and he's 25. Oh, thank God. And he was incredible. But I was like, oh my gosh, I was 25 because like I was going to masturbate him anyway.
Starting point is 00:07:05 For real. But a 17 year old would be the weirdest thing you masturbated to? No. Also like whatever guys. 17 is not 14 or 15. 17's like a grown adult. You're a senior adult. All right.
Starting point is 00:07:25 You know what? Guys listen. It doesn't matter because he wasn't 17. And she would have masturbated to it anyway. That was one of his last shows. So like he ended his run with them in November. He's a singer-songwriter. I'm just going to plug him.
Starting point is 00:07:37 His name's Michael Lee Brown. Check him out. Do you masturbate on the couch that I'm sitting on? No, my God. No. I know. I masturbate on the small couch sometimes. I barely even let do it on that couch.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Like that couch is important. There's not going to be any. I mean, I guess I could masturbate on. It's like I'm coming on it. I mean, you and me are not squirters. I mean, I wish someday. But like, yeah, I can masturbate anywhere. You'd never know.
Starting point is 00:07:56 It's like the Sahara Desert. True. Never know. Once you hit your 30s. Okay. And let me just finish recapping my week. Guys, Derrim and Hanson, amazing. Michael Lee Brown, unfortunately is not in the show anymore, but check him out.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Check him out on Spotify. Make out with them. And you start following me. So it's on. You guys started a relationship now. All right. Well, he's actually's boyfriend now. And then I went to S&L.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I just, I can't even. Guys. deal with this. I'm so jealous. So that's why it took us two and a half hours to start recording today because the first two hours were about SNL. Yeah, so I went to SNL. I have a friend that dates somebody very famous. I'm not going to say anything else,
Starting point is 00:08:32 but somebody that is famous. And that was on the show. SNL that I got to see, I've never been before. It's very hard to get tickets. They have 10-year waiting lists, allegedly, if you have to know somebody, whatever. Small audience, yeah. Very small audience, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:47 So, and you know, you see the people on the floor. It's more than that. We sat up top because we knew somebody that was in the, you know, going to be on the show. They don't put, like, friends and family on the floor. Like, we don't, we don't put our friends and family in the front rows. And Will Ferrell was the host. I obviously knew that going in.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I'm an insane, huge Will Ferrell fan. Like, for instance, forever. One year at the beach, the summer I turned 21, we lived with three girls, three guys, and we never got cable. And we literally, all we have was like the SNL best of Will Ferrell DVD. It was on repeat. It was on the TV all the time.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I would walk in and it would just be like, Goulet. Like, it was constant. Like, I'm a huge fan. So he hosted. I obviously knew that going in. King Princess was the musical performer. I love her. And then the cameos were out of control. His during Will Ferrell's monologue, Ryan Reynolds was there. Then Tracy Morgan came out. And then they did the Democratic debate. It was Woody Harrelson, or Woody Harrelson, Meyer Rudolph, Alec Baldwin did the cold open
Starting point is 00:09:40 as Trump, Fred Armisen, Rachel Dratch, like all these old cast members. It was... Larry David was there. And Larry David, obviously. Sorry. Larry David was, yeah. God was there. Personal fave. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:52 And I, but I was just like, Woody Harrelson just plays Joe Biden. Like, Ryan Reynolds. Like, what is even happening? I can't believe that. And I felt so lucky to be there. And then we went to the after party afterwards. And we're just like, so they run out a place afterward. They have an after party after every show, like a rat party every week.
Starting point is 00:10:09 And we were there. And we were just eating and drinking. And like, we're at the table. And like, Will Farrell came over to the table. And I'm like, oh, my, what does even happen? happening. I could never be cool in this situation. I was cool. Like, you have to, you would be and you have to be. And you're not like, take it. My brother was like, I was like Matt, Will Ferrell's like right by, like he's over my shoulder basically.
Starting point is 00:10:26 And my brother was like, if you don't take pictures, I'm like, that's not a thing. You can't take pictures. You can't. Like it's, you would A look like a fucking nerd and a loser and they would probably ask you to leave. I just, I'm like, I'm so in my head. Like I met Tom Segorra last week. And I was just like, be cool. Don't say something stupid. Oh my God. Just don't even talk. Just act normal. Don't even talk. And they followed me on Instagram was supposed. day of my life. Okay. Anyway. I didn't know that. I screenshot it. Okay. Anyways. I don't know. This whole experience just reminds me, not that you wouldn't have said yes, but like, you should always say yes to things and you should always just like explore the city that you're in.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Like, I forget that we live in New York sometimes and there's just all this really cool shit you can be doing. Like, you should apply to tickets for S&L and the daily show and everything else in the world that you could possibly do. Like the MoMA just reopened. Like, there's a new MoMA. Like, yeah. It just reminds me like, you should just be a tourist New York City always and just say yes to everything. Right. And if there's a a show you really want to get tickets to that films here. You don't live here. Just apply for tickets. You get the tickets. You go on a trip. Be spontaneous. Live your truth. Absolutely. So I'm so jealous of this whole thing. It's amazing. I can't believe you sat next to. I've been to the show. I've been to the daily show. I've been to like watch what happens live. I've been to a few other shows.
Starting point is 00:11:29 And it was never like that exciting guest. I mean, a great show, of course. And a daily show. It's like Trevor No, is there. He's all I need. And the same with Watch What Happens Live. You know, Andy's part of the appeal. But I've never gotten to experience where it's like, oh my God. Like Beyonce comes out. You know, so I was like dying when these people. people were coming out. No one knew that was happening. Like minute one, Ryan Reynolds, I was like, what the fuck? It's such a crazy once in a lifetime experience. Also, Washington's life was so weird. Oh, yeah, it was weird. Remember we sat there. It's like three, it's smaller than you would think it is. It's like three rows of people. It's like 10 people. It's like a tiny little baby. You're like on
Starting point is 00:12:02 the bleachers. There's bleachers. Yeah. Anyways, but I'm glad that you did that. You had like a crazy amazing weekend. I did nothing. And it was my dream. I saw, I saw you posted like one thing of your plants. I'm like, she's killing it. Yep. just kill it. Living her truth. Saturday night, I went on my roof and took a photo. Then I came in and took a photo. I mean, I worked on our merch this weekend. I smoked some weed.
Starting point is 00:12:22 You did. You did work hard. Yeah, I smoked weed. That was about it. I was like, real hungover yesterday. I took like one hit. And I was like, weed is so great. Just like it's so great. It makes your hangover is better.
Starting point is 00:12:32 It makes your orgasms better. It's just like, I don't know. It's just the best thing in the or not. This is like you review movies from 20 years ago. I'm like weed, guys. Weed is so awesome. Wait, do you say, Do you smoke like a blunt?
Starting point is 00:12:48 No, I have a bowl. Are you rolling blunts? Do you think I can roll a blunt? No, I'm not that cool. I used in high school I could roll a blunt. I smoke it out of a bowl. I have like four different kinds of weed. I like strawberry shortcake.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I have a dealer that comes and brings it to me. Do you have a drug dealer? You have a drug dealer. Good for you. I don't get in New York has a drug dealer. You just text these services and you say like, I'm in Union Square and they just come. I also don't understand the laws anymore. Like, is it legal?
Starting point is 00:13:11 Is it not? What happens if you get caught with like a little bit of weed in New York? I mean, I don't think you can get caught. caught with intent to sell. So like, yes, if my dealer was caught, yes, but if I was walking out just a little bit of weed, I think it's fine. Also, sis, what happened with you getting in trouble? Like, you got in trouble early on for smoking weed. You're just still doing it? I'm just doing it. You know, I just, I don't like to follow rules. I just ask for forgiveness later. And it's fine. Nobody has emailed me about smoking. We think got other problems to deal with. Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 00:13:38 um. You was their neighbor. In general. I've caused no problem. You think it's a guy that you slept with that reported you in the first place. And then once you guys fucked, he's like, oh, she's good. He lives right above me. I mean, that's where the weed is going.
Starting point is 00:13:49 It's straight up into his apartment. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, he's definitely reporting me to try to get evict. The only person that could really smell you smoking weed is like the person with right above you. How do you fuck a person that lives directly above you? How does that even happen?
Starting point is 00:14:02 Yeah. He's trying to get me evicted. Um, so yeah, I got high. Watch him good stuff. This great new Bikram Yoga documentary on Netflix. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:14:10 I got to watch it. Um, Hot take. He's a rapist and a pet of, at a predator. So nowhere's safe, even yoga. Little short brown man. You don't see it coming.
Starting point is 00:14:20 He's so tiny. Not a white man? Wow, weird. I've been watching The Righteous Gemstones, which is like a satire about like evangelical churches, which is great, and Mrs. Fletcher, which is like a new show on HBO that I also love. Do you do succession?
Starting point is 00:14:36 I'm obsessed with it. So I guess that I don't watch it. I should, I guess. But the like tall actor was there at the rap party. for SNL. I guess there's like a tall, funny actor. The young one? Yeah, he's like young and tall, like good-looking. He's like a cousin. Yeah. So people were like freaking out. Like there was a guy at table that was just like he's, I'm more starstruck by him than Will Ferrell. You know, like anybody else at this party because he's like so hot right now. I'm, it's one of the, I hate
Starting point is 00:15:01 people say it's like, you just have to guess through the first 10 episodes and that it's good. The first season really, it's slow. The second season is a, I've never said this, a masterpiece. It is a cinematic masterpiece. Unlike anything I've ever seen. The character dynamics between all the characters. There's so many scenes with like 30 different characters and they're all, like the dialogue is phenomenal. It's, but a whole season of being slow. That's the thing with them.
Starting point is 00:15:25 What's the show that my brother was like freaking out that I hadn't seen, Jason Bateman, Ozarks. He was like, you just have to get through like the first like four. I'm like, that's four hours. I'm never going to do that. I can't do it. Like I kind of know within 10 minutes of I'm going to watch a show. Me too.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Secession's heavy. Like I started, when I started dead to me, I loved it. And then I started, I'm sorry, which is so good. I knew immediately I was going to like it. But like, I put on Russian dolls and I was like, I don't like it. I turned that off in 15 minutes. Right. And I'm sure it's great.
Starting point is 00:15:55 I'm sure it's amazing. It was all women that did it. But, I mean, I just have to be hooked. I'm saying with books, you've got to hook me earlier. I'm not, I can't stick around for like the slow burn. No, I hate that sentence. You just have to get through like five hours of content and it's good. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:16:09 No. Who has five hours of content? I mean, I do because we work from home. Like, who has the time? Actually, we do? Well, actually. Well, actually, I loved that rant so much. Gotta tell you.
Starting point is 00:16:23 We should make merch. No, no, no. Raina, I said this. You didn't even fucking respond. The girl... You did me something all the night and I forget. No. We were...
Starting point is 00:16:30 Whatever. The girl that we kind of made fun of for telling me that I was saying H-town bitches instead of H-town vicious. Because you guys, some of you guys get mad that we make fun of your DMs. she loved it. She DMed and she goes, oh my God, I just listened to this week's episode and you totally shout on me. I still love you, but like drag me. I'm here for it. Listen, you know what? At the end of the day, I only make fun of people I love. No, that's not true. But I do make fun, I do make fun of people I love. So girl, we love you. Come to the show. That's your girl after my own. I just feel like sometimes people
Starting point is 00:17:06 are like, how do I phrase that? People like, you let people, when I did Andrew Colin and Francis Ellis's podcast. I got a bunch of DMs for people being like, they were really mean to. And it's like, but I'm here for it. Like, I don't feel that I'm being put upon or people being mean to me. I am the last person that can't stick up for myself. Like, I'm always here to be roasted for the dumb shit that I say and do. Like, there's very few lines you can cross with me. So I always think it's funny when people like think that I'm going to be offended. But this whole podcast is about making fun of me. Our lot of shows are about making fun of me. I'm not like this like sad wave that I can't put up for stick up for herself. And no one roast Andrew Collin more than you.
Starting point is 00:17:43 You have crossed the line with him sometimes. It made it awkward. One time on stage I did. I was like, I can't believe I did this. So he's still getting you back for that. Yeah, I deserve it, for sure. Francis, I'm easy target. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Yeah. I got to give you guys a date and update. Hinge guys have been out of control. Like, Hinge men gone wild is how I feel. They have been wild. Like, you know the part of mean girls when they're like, the girls, the girls have gone wild. Like, that's how I feel about these men on Hinge.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Guys, I mean, there's a fine line. I'm proud of you that you got back out there because, like, you said that you were going to do it. And then you were like, I don't want to do this. And I even agreed with you that you didn't have to do it. And you went back out there. And some crazy shit happened this week. Yeah, I got to read the one. I'm just going to change the name of where he works.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Anyway, it doesn't really matter. This guy, we matched. He said something about the picture that I'm wearing the Sixers jersey in. So he's like a Sixers fan. He's from probably like outside Philly or whatever. And that was it. We matched. And then this was at 2 o'clock last.
Starting point is 00:18:43 last Tuesday, my phone filled up. I was on the phone, or I was on, I was on, like, something on my computer and I'm just watching my phone fill up with messages on my home screen, seven in a row. First message, Ash, wanted spontaneously hang out today. Second message. I work at Morgan Stanley. I'm in-house legal counsel. Third message, Madison Square Park and and Flatiron Building. Fourth message, at the dog park, would love to meet up. Fifth message, text me, leaves his number. Six message. It's no Sixers game. Seven message. So next best thing. seven in a row. And I had to wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:19:15 I was like, I think I was like on a Skype call or something. And I wrote back, I was like, sorry, I kind of, this is the thing. This isn't freak me out as much as the next one I'm going to share. I was going to say to you, like, this seems really nuts to me until the next one. And now I'm like, oh, this isn't so crazy. This is just a normal person. Like this guy, whatever. He could be like a real fast talking business guy.
Starting point is 00:19:32 He's a lawyer. Like he could just be kind of like stream of consciousness. Like, let's meet up right now. And I responded like, oh, I was like, ha, ha. That was a lot. I'm actually busy today till five and nothing. Like it was take it or leave it? He just wanted a meaningful check at Tuesday at 2.30.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Who's going to say yes to that shit? She's a bitch. And also because you guys know on the first episode, my mom said I was going to end up with somebody named Peter. His name was Peter. So I was trying to entertain it. But I was like, Peter, relax. Peter is coming in too hot.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Although I will say, this guy seems totally normal compared to what happened next. Yeah. What happened next? Fucking crazy. I just think that that guy was trying to like overshare because he's like, She doesn't know me. I'll tell her where I work. I'll tell her what building I work in. She won't think I'm a psycho. I have a dog. Whatever. I'm trying to connect with her. But then nothing. Like that's a crazy thing. It was an exploding offer. Seven in a row.
Starting point is 00:20:20 That offer exploded. Never even said, no, I said, hey, sorry, I can't. I'm busy till five. Nothing. He's like, fuck her. Someone else. You had your chance. So this other guy, we were talking. This one got really crazy. He's probably like a little thing. We talked at night. Let's say it was Thursday night. Joking about meeting up, joking about going on a date at the Olive Garden. funny. It was fine. It was cute. And then, I don't know, I'm going to just try to, I'll try to summarize this. He gave me his number and I didn't text him because it was 1230 at night. He gave me his number in like a cute way and I didn't text him. And then immediately after I didn't do that, he was like, well, I tried. I had to shoot my shot. And I'm like, it's 12.30 at night. I don't
Starting point is 00:20:59 need to text you right now. I appreciate you. Give me your number. And I was like, also I made a joke. I was like also, you know, texting strangers at one in the morning, you set yourself up for a dick pick or something like that. And then that, was it. And the next morning, I woke to, like, a message from him, like, every hour starting like 7 a.m. 8 a.m. 9 a.m. 10 a. I woke up at 10. I bitch. I was sleeping. So it was like every message he was like writing something, give me like, okay, why aren't you answering type of vibes. I was like, I was asleep. This is so creepy. It wasn't like that other guy. It wasn't a stream of consciousness. It was like he texted me. Wait an hour. Didn't get a response. Texted me again.
Starting point is 00:21:31 I was like really turned off by it. And I just kind of tried to like tamp it down. And he just kept going day. I mean, I'm looking at her phone. It's literally one. He just kept writing all day. A slew of his messages. And then the next, and then I wrote like one thing. I was just like, this guy's getting a little crazy. I feel like really weird. He's giving me like aggressive when you don't respond right away vibes, which is not a stranger. This is a stranger. It was my phone. And the next morning I woke up and at 8.01 a.m. It said, L.O.L. Okay then. I was like, oh no. An hour later, are you not interested in meeting? I'm a bit confused. I got to admit. And then a few hours after that, how was your day been? And I was like, you know what? I'm
Starting point is 00:22:08 trying to set an example. I'm going to tell this guy, I don't appreciate this behavior and I don't think that we're a match. And so I just wrote, hey, sorry, I've had a really busy couple of days. All these messages have been a lot. I don't think we're going to be a match. Have a great weekend. And he wrote, I'm sorry, I hear you. Would you be open to trying to start fresh? Dude. And then I didn't respond and he goes, I totally understand if not, but this won't happen again. You have my word. I'm like, why are we talking like we're in a relationship? I feel this guy knows you or something. It's so crazy. It's not like I don't think you're like wonderful and beautiful and all these things. It's just like, I always think about people's behavior and I think
Starting point is 00:22:39 that it comes from other things that you've tried that have worked. So like, when have you ever tried this and it has been a positive reaction and outcome? I just also, it's a dating app. Like, you're allowed to ghost out. It happens to every person, male and female, every day. Like, this is so crazy. I promise it won't happen again. I don't know you. Can you imagine? I was think about this in the reverse. A woman does this to a man. He would get a restraining order against you. Right. Men just like her out here just doing whatever. They're like, what she going to do about it? It was so crazy and it turned me off wildly.
Starting point is 00:23:09 But I was like, I'm going to say, no, I'm going to say, I'm not just going to go sound this guy. I could. He's being a little aggressive, but I want to tell him like, this has been a lot. Maybe that'll help him in the future. You know, like, maybe I need to simmer down with the ladies. I love that. I mean, we always say that we want to like, it sucks sometimes practicing what we preach.
Starting point is 00:23:27 I don't like it. But then he hit me with the, I promise I'll change. Like you guys are in a relationship. You should write back and be like, you know, I took a couple days. No, rematch him. She'd be like, I took a couple days to think about it. And, you know, I believe you. And you're going to do the work.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And I believe it. Oh, my God. All right. Sorry, guys, for that long-winded update. We've been talking for a while? Oh, yeah. Oh, damn. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Whatever. We got a great episode. We don't get to, like, bullshit like this enough. I know. But I can't think I'm done with it. I can't do it. And then these guys message me and they know the podcast, which is fine.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Like, you know, but they're like following you. One of those guys that slid to your DMs, which was weird. I was following all these people. It was following. Yeah. weird. So I don't know. I'm going to try harder for the wild. You know my dad said to me there. He's like, Raina, my dad's so enthralled by all my girlfriends because like all my, I mean,
Starting point is 00:24:14 whatever, it's not a hot take. Every girl in New York is incredibly dynamic and smart and beautiful and successful, especially at our age. I mean, you just move. I mean, if you're in your 30s and you don't have any money and your kids stay here. Yeah. Anyways, my dad, the other day was like, you know, your girlfriends, they're just, they're so amazing and smart and wonder. He's like, why don't you ask them to set you up with a guy? And I'm like, dad, all of them. or single. If any of them knew a guy, they'd be with the guy. Thank you for this really amazing revolutionary hot take on how I should fuck new dudes. Thank you, Dad. I really appreciate it. I know. Yeah, our guy friends should be setting us up. Like the other day, Francis was like,
Starting point is 00:24:51 I wish I had somebody to set you up with. I'm like, start looking. Are you, have you even looked? Have you ever even gone into your phone and thought about this stuff? My fucking girlfriends aren't sent me up with anybody. Get out of here. Absolutely not. Your dad is so cute. He gets very impressed easily. And one time your dad said, how does Ashley find yoga studios on the road? Oh, he was, he was so impressed by you. I was like, the internet, dad. How does I like forget we're not like buds? And then he's like my dad.
Starting point is 00:25:19 And I just like overshare. Like I was telling him that I met this guy in Charleston. And he was like, just remember, Ray, you know, like, don't give it up too easily. And I was like, but if you're never going to see the person again, it doesn't really matter. You guys really do talk like your friend. He was like, I immediately regret starting this conversation and I don't want to continue it. It was so funny last week.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I feel like this didn't get a big enough laugh when you were like, you'd rather have your dad wipe your ass than your mom. Like the visual of little Bill Greenberg. He's so cute and like motherly. He's just so proud of me. Like he would wipe my ass and be like, that was the nicest shit. Ever seen.
Starting point is 00:25:55 He frames it. He's so proud of everything I do. He dips it in bronze. Like it on the mantle. He can never leave me. He wants to know every single thing me and you were doing. My mom's great too. She just converses differently.
Starting point is 00:26:05 But like my dad. wants to know every advertiser we have, every decision we make. How do you and Ashley pick the guests? Every day he wants to know about it. How does Ashley Finojillo Studios? He was shook that you know how to find exercise places in other cities. Guys, well, speaking to the internet, we have a great topic today. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:26 We touched on it a lot in a million different episodes. We've never done a whole episode about it. So we're going to talk about social media behavior today. And I actually think I've never heard this talked about on a podcast, but like how you act before you're in a relationship, like what you post on Instagram and stories, when to post somebody, how to ask when to get posted,
Starting point is 00:26:44 and then obviously like post relationship, like do you take the photos down and things like that? That's, yeah, pre-relationship, in the relationship and post-relationship. I want to just put this out there really quick. As far as shady social media behavior, we did a whole episode on it. So if you're new here and you're wanting that type of stuff,
Starting point is 00:27:00 it's called, is he micro-cheating? I think that's the episode title. Yeah. Microcheting's in the episode title. So all the stuff of like guys, liking other girls' picks or DM slides, all the things. All the shady social media behavior of somebody that you're dating is a whole episode about microcheting.
Starting point is 00:27:17 In May? Yeah, I think it was like, that sounds right. Summerish. Summer and summer. So anyway, so we will not talk about, be talking about that today. Pre-relationship. Just us today? Just us today, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:28 We have plenty of knowledge on this topic. I'm excited to talk about this because we were talking about this in the car one day. And like, yeah. We'd such like a nice conversation about this. Yeah. about how to behave when you're trying to like hook a guy. Yeah, and always up top, got to say, ladies, do whatever you want. Live your truth.
Starting point is 00:27:46 It's your social media. Post whatever you want on it. But we are going to offer some advice of what to present to the world when maybe you have somebody that you're interested in that's watching, that's watching your stories looking at your overall social media and what you're putting out there in terms of what you want to get back. And do you want a boyfriend? Do you want to fuck buddy?
Starting point is 00:28:07 You know, like, you may not realize how you're coming across on your social media. And we always think you guys should be authentic. But I think there's certain instances where women and men are trying to be a certain way. And it might not be attracting you the right type of attention. Yeah. I'm actually like, I mean, whatever. Like, I don't want to date myself. But like, thank God I did not have like Instagram stories at 22.
Starting point is 00:28:32 The shit that I was doing. Like, I never had to think about this stuff. Thank God's beer bonging like two story high beer bongs off of a house. Like, yeah. The shit I was doing was disgusting. Damn, you were me too. I was a beer bong queen. Oh, I could open up my throat.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I don't understand it because I'm not a big throat opener on the BJ front. I am. But my beer bonging skills, I would do one off a second story. They would pour two beers in it and I would be down below and they would be have the bong up on the balcony and I would do it and just fucking crush it and like walk away. Me too. But yeah, I mean, thank God. I didn't have to think about this.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I think a lot of our listeners are younger and like, yeah, I totally agree with you. Live your life. If like you want to put that shit on social media every day, that's fine. But like, just think about like when you're trying to like attract somebody, like, what are you putting out there? And if a man watches that and he's like, okay, she's half naked, she's drunk all the time. Like maybe they are too. I don't know. But like, I don't know that it's the, I just think less is more. I think less is more. And we're coming to you guys from obviously being older than a lot of you and also feedback that we get from our guy friends, you know, and what they say. about what they're looking for.
Starting point is 00:29:35 And if you just aren't looking for a serious partner and you just want to have fun and party and hook up, yeah, put it out there. I mean, be careful about if you're looking for jobs and shit. But I think that I'm at a place in my life where I don't really want like a hardcore party guy. So if I am seeing a guy that I had some interest in and his Instagram is all shots and bottle service
Starting point is 00:30:03 and girls and I just, it's, I would be turned off by that. So I think, think about what you're looking for and what you're putting out there too. Because I had a guy recently, a friend, a guy friend, and we were chatting and he was into this girl and thought she was like, cool and mature and like girlfriend material for lack of a better word, whatever, that's his words. And then it just kind of took a turn. And one weekend, he was like watching her stories and she was just like raging, you know, and she was like thirst trapping,
Starting point is 00:30:35 and it was just very obvious that it was like a lot of attention-seeking behavior, and he was turned off by it. And he was like, that's fine if you want to act like that, but that's not the girl that I thought that she was or that I really think is somebody I want to settle down with. And I am like, you know, she could have been showing off for you
Starting point is 00:30:52 thinking that that was like making her look cool and busy and party girl and fun, but it's not necessarily what people look at you and take you seriously. So I think that's what, I don't want to like shame anybody for like being drunk. That's what we're doing. I don't want to tread carefully here.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Yeah, I don't want to shame anybody. I don't think you do either for wanting to like post their straps and act crazy and shit. And I think that there's tons of couples that I know that are super happy. My brother and his wife rage together all the time. Like you would watch either of their Instagram stories and be like, those are crazy people. But like, I just think that like in the beginning of a relationship, men know that you are putting a certain thing out there for them. Yeah. Like they just know.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Everybody is. You guys, men are simple and stupid, but they do know this. And he was. And I just think that's over time because in that one instance, he was just like, I really liked her. But then all this stuff is very like attention seeking. And I just don't know that that's what I want right now in my life.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Yeah. You know, you could be like that in a relationship. Go for it. Live your truth. Also, though, if that's how a girl is, then she shouldn't tamp it down because that's how she's going to be anyway. But I'm saying like I think sometimes, and I'm not saying I wouldn't have been like this in my younger days.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Like you think you're kind of being like social and you just look like you're a party girl that maybe someone wouldn't take seriously. And I mean, just to get into thirst traps too, like less is more. I promise you. Like, it just is. Like, you can be sexy without your entire,
Starting point is 00:32:14 and if you're a fitness model and that's what your job and that's what you're doing and you're working with brands, that's different. But when you're just straight, like, I'm going to get this guy's attention with almost full nudity.
Starting point is 00:32:22 I don't know that it's doing you, doing what you think it's doing. Yes. Well, I mean, look, anything will get men hard. Literally anything. You can do a little less. Just, I mean, post like short shorts or something. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:32:32 I feel like, it sounds like an old fucking woman. But like, yeah, I just think that like, I do sound like your parents. But you guys, you guys call us mom all the time. So we're going to mom you. Yeah. I sent this guy a photo the other night. I was just trying to be like kind of sexy.
Starting point is 00:32:44 He was a bottle of wine, but I had like no pants on. And I was just like, you could see like my thigh gap. I was really flexed. And like that little tiny thing I knew would like get him hard. I don't need to be like completely naked in the photo. Yeah. You know, I'm. When did we talk at length about thirst traps?
Starting point is 00:32:58 Who, what guess was it with? about like just try to be a little more self-deprecating if you're going to like trap it. I just think, I think less is always more. I truly, truly believe it. Like if you are, there's a, we all know.
Starting point is 00:33:09 We all have a guy. We're trying to get his attention. We're trying to date him. Whatever. We have a crush. This and that. He's watching our stories. We're checking if he's watching our stories.
Starting point is 00:33:15 He's watching. He is seeing it. He is taking it in. Less is more. Yeah. When I like a guy, I post less actually. Like I'll do like,
Starting point is 00:33:24 leave some mystery. Yeah. You said like mystery is good. Yeah. Just like keep it. You just let them be like, what is she up to? I don't need to see the whole party. Just maybe one Instagram story of a party.
Starting point is 00:33:34 And then let them wonder. I think you're totally right. Like, if a guy's interested in you, he's like, where is she? What's she doing? What part of town is she in? Who's she with? Like, if you're posting all of that, there's no mystery. Like, be a little more coy about it, I think.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Like, it's not like, well, I went to this bar. And then I went to this bar. Stop it. So then he's like, well, whatever. I see exactly what she's doing. I know every single thing. I know every move she's making. And this comes from.
Starting point is 00:33:58 And now I just basically saw her vagina because she just thirsted It had the whole relationship already. All right. Right. I just, I don't know. I mean, I post a lot on Instagram, but I mean, I try to just post like my accomplishments and your accomplishments. And I'm like, we're a great episode today.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Here's our new merchandise. Yeah. When I like a guy, I try to post a little bit less because I want them to be like, what's she doing? Yeah. I think women pick up on stuff a little better. I think we're smarter and more perceptive than men. But like, I can tell when someone's posting to get attention.
Starting point is 00:34:23 You just know it. Like I was talking to a girlfriend recently and she broke up with a guy. She broke up with him. and he just started posting. He never posted before. He was like so desperately trying to get her attention. Like just think of what you're doing and why you're doing it. Like just stay authentic to yourself.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Like if you're like, I need to post this thing to get this guy's attention. Let's think about that for a sec. You know, like, do you really let them wonder what you're doing? I just never really thought about it that much until that guy said that to you where he was like, he liked that girl. And he was like, it's just the whole weekend was her like completely naked and like partying and drinking. And I just thought like, at first I was like, oh, she's just being cute. But then I watched it.
Starting point is 00:34:57 And I was like, ah. that would make me a little uncomfortable if my partner was like that. Yeah. It just seemed attention seeking. So, you know, like also in general, like just enjoy yourself. You don't need to put everything on your Instagram, you know? Like, just live your life and party. Girls, this, this, we're coming to you from me, at least, a hardcore partier.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Like, you know, I just didn't have Instagram stories when I was black, I'll drunk all the time. But like, this is not saying don't do it. It's just saying you don't need to document every step of the way. But I'm always happy to give you guys. a PSA that you need to drink glass and take care of yourself. Don't make my mistakes. I just think like it's not a... Play hard to get.
Starting point is 00:35:39 That's it. Just play a little hard to get. Look, they know what you look like. They can imagine when you look like in a bikini. They know you're getting all fucked up. It's Saturday. They get it. Play hard to get.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Let them ask questions and wonder where you are. Amen, sis. Thank you. I know that most people want to know about like when you're in a relationship. So like what if your partner refuses to post you? When did you post? When do you go Insta? I did so much research for this episode.
Starting point is 00:36:00 There are hundreds of articles just in the last year. Everybody has a fucking opinion. Yeah. And there's a million of them. And you've got Elite Daily and Cosmo and Glammer and New Yorker. I read everything. Everybody has an opinion. And we're just going to open with being like, you guys, we did this on the when to sleep
Starting point is 00:36:15 of them episode. There's no like hard and fast rule. There's not rules. And the rules that exist, quote unquote, rules that exist are there's exceptions to every rule. I mean, a lot of this is just like listening to your gut. Like knowing when you feel comfortable and understanding the relationship that you're in and how committed you guys are in both sides, you know? Like,
Starting point is 00:36:33 I don't know. Just want to say that up top. Like, you guys know, we're not here to be like three dates. Then you can sleep with them. Two months. Then you go on your Instagram. Like, it's just, we don't have those kind of rules. I just like those rules. I mean, I've had people that I've said, I love you to within the first three weeks. And I had somebody that it took me six months to say it too. Like, I mean, I know that's not the same thing. But like, yeah, there's no rules. And I think you just got to trust your gut. And like, when you say to yourself, like, why do I need them to post me on social media and we can talk about that. It's like, do you not trust the person?
Starting point is 00:36:58 Do you not trust the relationship? Do you need validation somewhere else? Or is this just a normal thing that you should be getting? And you feel weird that they're not doing it. And we can talk about how to ask people to do it. But yeah, no hard. Like I think that you and I are a little more public. I probably would wait longer today than I would have in the past to make somebody
Starting point is 00:37:13 Instagram official. But like when you're committed, they've met all your friends. They've met your family. Everybody knows that's your boyfriend. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Two months or five months or six months, whatever you feel like you're comfortable with. Well, I mean, I guess we can like start there.
Starting point is 00:37:26 I mean, yeah, if you are in a place where you're wondering, is it too soon to put, we'll talk to the ladies here. I mean, is it too soon to put him on my Instagram or you're wondering why is he put me on his Instagram. I'm just going to also use Instagram guys. I mean, just because it is kind of the main one. I know there's like other things too. I mean.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Yeah, right. It's like pretty much Insta official is such a thing. You got to see what the rest of relationship is like, you know, like where do you guys stand, are you just desperate to get something up because you want to flex on somebody, you want to make somebody jealous? Then you're doing it for the wrong reasons. Like if you're like, I got to get this picture up because I just want to show that someone's interested in me or I just got to make my ex-boyfriend jealous or I just have to do this
Starting point is 00:38:08 thing. Like just you're doing it for the wrong reasons in the first place, you know? Like I think that I'm trying to think the last time I posted somebody on Instagram that I was in a relationship with my last serious relationship. He posted me pretty early. he had me as a WCW early. I was like, relax. Like, yikes.
Starting point is 00:38:27 But I was putting him on my, there was stories started when we were dating, I think, I was putting him on Snapchat a lot because it was disappear, you know? Like, I am very open with that. I'll put someone on my Instagram story first date. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:38:38 It's going to disappear, just like the guy, you know? Like, it's just like, it's not permanent. But I take posts like way more seriously. And with, again, like now we're a little more high profile than I was then. And people just want to dig around in our private life, which is fine.
Starting point is 00:38:49 It comes to the territory. But back then, I remember the picture that I posted, people knew we were dating because they watched my Snapchat and all that stuff. But it was like we had decided we were official. We were on a trip. And we had this amazing epic picture. And that was the first picture that I even wanted to post. You know, like, I was like, oh, that's beautiful. I'm going to post it and let everybody know. But we had already, we had just had the talk. And so I felt like we were official. Yeah, I felt the need to do it before that. But like, I think that when you're at a point where
Starting point is 00:39:17 it's not going to create any questions, it's like, yeah, of course that's her boyfriend. You don't have a million people commenting like, oh, I didn't know you guys. Your family knows that your boyfriend, your friend knows. Like, that's a totally perfectly fine time to post. And conversely, like, I think you should just look at other people's social media behavior. If you're dating somebody that never posts anything, then that's fine too if they don't post. I mean, I don't care that much. We said this before.
Starting point is 00:39:38 You said it last week. Is this a person that posts on social media in general? Or are they, like, one of those dudes that posts every quarter? You know, like, if you have a guy that never posts on social media, he's not in, it. You can't hound him to put you on his social media. He's just not that kind of guy, but if you have a guy that is posting everything else, I mean, you said this earlier, you can say it, how, like, social media is a representation of your life and how you communicate with the world. Yeah, I just, I mean, I said it last week. And like, you know, I think in 2019, it's not so crazy that we expect
Starting point is 00:40:06 to be a part of our partner's social media life. That is how you communicate to the world. That is, this is what we're doing now instead of calls and texts and things like that. It's just like, that's how you communicate to everybody. This is what I'm doing. And if they're communicating that everything else is important besides me, then I need to know why. And we can talk about how to those conversations, but like,
Starting point is 00:40:23 I think intent is the only thing that matters here. And I think girls get so wrapped him like, why isn't he posting me? And I don't know, do you trust your man? Do you trust him? Do you feel good about the relationship?
Starting point is 00:40:32 Does everybody in his life know you're together? And he doesn't, but who cares? Right. Well, that's the thing. Is him not posting you a symptom of a bigger problem? Or is it just this outlier of a great relationship? I mean, assess the relationship, social media aside.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Is he introducing you to his friends? Does his family know about you? Does he seem proud? That's what it comes down to. Is this person proud of you? Everybody wants a partner that feels proud of them. Yes, people just want to feel like they're being validated and seen. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And so if he is proud of you in every other way and you don't ever feel hidden and you feel like everybody knows your dating and he just hasn't put you on his social media, maybe he just hasn't thought about it. He hasn't had the right photo. Like I see most guys do Insta official at weddings. I think that they just guys aren't many men, some not all, but some of them just aren't picture guys. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:41:17 Like they don't think about it. Like you got to get them. in that right spot when they get the good picture and you guys are dressed up. I've seen so many guys that have been dating girls for a while that they've been very proud of that they have never posted a picture until they got that great shot at like their friend's wedding. You know what I mean? And I just think that they might not have thought about it. I think you need to give people some grace. Like some people have been burned by a prior relationship. We all know men get very burned bypassed relationships. Maybe they dated a girl that they had her all over their social media.
Starting point is 00:41:42 She ripped their heart out and they had to go delete every photo. Maybe they're being a little bit more cautious. Like maybe there's other reasons at hand. Again, if you're dating a famous person or somebody that's really well known or has some high profile job, different story. But I think that if everything else in a relationship is good and you feel like this person is super proud of you, like just be patient. Well, I don't think you should need it so badly. Yes, I think there's the one hand where you say like this is what they're communicating with the world and they're not communicating that they're with me and that's a bummer.
Starting point is 00:42:07 But like it also, just because they communicate to the world that you're together does not mean you are safe from anything. And I, my fiancee used to post about me all the time. He used to write these long, really cheesy Facebook posts about me and how amazing I was and he fucking left me like a week later. Yeah. And we talked about this on the episode with Krispy, which was our first guest ever.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Maybe our like our 10th episode. But like my boyfriend after that never once posted. We were together for like a year. I was not to be found on his social media. Everybody knew about me. His family knew me. His friends knew me. It never for one second crossed my mind that I needed to be on that shit.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Well, was he posting other stuff? No, he didn't post any. He didn't post his dog. Okay, well, he didn't post. Like, I'm going to be honest. If I'm dating somebody and he's active on social media and I'm posting him, I went him to post me. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Like, I don't care. I think it looks suspect. I think if you have a girl and these people have been dating for months, let's say you've been dating a guy, I'll give a guy time because I want time. I'm not putting somebody in my social media early at all. Like we're going to be official. I'm going to be committed to them before I put somebody in my social media and tag them. I would wait six months.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Yeah. So I want to be given, like I would give somebody that same respect. But if I'm dating somebody for six months, we're serious, I put them on my social media and there's no trace of me on theirs. I'm wondering why. I just, I don't love it. I want you to be proud of me. And I actually, I don't think I would even end up in that situation
Starting point is 00:43:23 because I think that most guys, most, that are really proud of the woman that they're with are going to put her on their social media. I just believe that unless they're totally not active. Well, I mean, I hate this bullshit of like, I'm so private. Shut up. Or this is bad for my job or my image. Shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:43:42 And we got this email from this girl. And we did this like a year and a half ago for an episode. And she said he like is so private. And I like, yeah. like you're not sucking his dick on his Instagram account. Yes. Like you're, what is so private about your life?
Starting point is 00:43:53 You can't post a photo of me to wedding with you. Right. And like Amy said last week on the episode that like, you know, her man just said he didn't want to share stuff about his life. And it's like, you're hiding me. You are actively hiding me and I want to fucking know why. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:05 And I think that like when you were the laundry with somebody, that's fair game to ask that question. If you are feeling anxious because you're not in their social media, there is probably other problems in the relationship. And we say this. We can't say it enough. Like you should feel. comfortable and you should feel safe with this person. They should feel like home. I mean,
Starting point is 00:44:22 not some of you're casually dating, but if you're at the point where this isn't even issue, you're probably boyfriend, girlfriend. So you should feel comfortable with somebody and like they want to be with you and they're proud of you and you're prioritized. So, you know, if you feel like that, everything else is there and you're not on their social media, you can bring it up. Like, if you're in a comfortable safe space with somebody, I don't, it should come up. Like, the relationships that I've been, like months into it, we're really in. to each other. We've said, I love you, whatever it is. We're official. Like, we can talk about anything. You've been inside of me. Like, we're close. We are intimate. Like, I can ask you,
Starting point is 00:44:57 like, hey, what's up with this? And not in an accusatory way. Have a glass of wine. I'm always surprised by the emails that people write us because I think that, like, you know, they get to the end of the email and they've answered their own question. Or it's like, if you just said this, this thing to the person that you're dating. And like, I'm sure all the girls listen to are smart, rational girls. Like, if you just had this conversation with your partner, like, it would be fine. I think people are just afraid to, like, offend somebody or to look crazy and nobody's going to tell you that you're crazy for just saying like, hey, how do you feel about posting us on social media? Unless they're trying to gaslight you and
Starting point is 00:45:27 make you like, like, I know somebody who like posted a photo of his girlfriend and just didn't tag her but tagged other people. That's fucking suspect and I want to know why you did that shit. Right. And I'm not crazy for thinking that because you fucking know how to tag people and you didn't tag me. Right. Yeah. You guys like guys know more than you think they do. Like I, I, an ex of mine, he was really shady like that when he was. like lying to me about this other girl. He untagged. No, a photo she tagged of him. Like, he untagged it so it wouldn't show up on, like, she had clearly tagged him and he had untagged it so it didn't show up in his tagged photos. Like on her page, it was still tagged. You know what I
Starting point is 00:46:04 mean? Like, people know how to do this stuff. If they're shady people, um, your average good guy might not, but I, uh, I just think, I like that you said the language that you just use, because people probably are looking to that. Like, hey, how? how do you feel about posting us in social media? Not why haven't you posted me on social media? Like if you're going to have this conversation, like it cannot come across accusatory you're going to lose. So I think it's just like, hey, just curious,
Starting point is 00:46:27 like how do you feel about social media and relationships and see what you get out of them? I like you said earlier that like when we were talking and you were like bring it up really early in the relationship, just file it away. Yeah, like this is just a tactic that I think could work to, so you don't have to worry about it when it's an issue. It's like if you're liking somebody, you're on a few dates with them,
Starting point is 00:46:47 you guys are early dating. There's no social media yet. Or maybe there's like stories or whatever. I can't live your truth. But that's not an issue yet. I think it's fine to be like, hey, how do you feel about couples on social media? You could bring up another couple.
Starting point is 00:46:58 You could bring up some crazy story about one of your friends and gauge how he feels so you know early on. So you're not having to ask him these tough questions when you're into a relationship and it's become a problem for you. Just so you know how he feels. But again, girls, I can't stress this enough. Like, this shouldn't be a problem. Like if it's, if you're really worried about this, there's another problem.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Like you should feel comfortable. Like I was talking to Jenny Jones, one of my good friends. We talk about her all the time. She posts guys early. Like probably people would be like, whoa, Jenny's got a new man. And she, but not always, but she's like, if I feel comfortable with a guy and I know he likes me and we're in a good place, I'll post it. And she's like, and I don't care. People think Jenny has a new boyfriend every month.
Starting point is 00:47:39 What the fuck do I care? You know, it's a part of my life. I'm dating this guy. He's cool with it. He likes me. I'm comfortable. I'm posting it. I love that.
Starting point is 00:47:45 I love that she owns that. I mean, that girl is, there's nothing she wouldn't own. Every decision is. Zero fucks. Zero fucks. But I also think like you just trust your gut. If you feel like something shady, there probably is something shady. Look, there are crazy girls, I guess, that are like unhinged and unbalanced.
Starting point is 00:48:00 But like, if you feel like I need this for validation, you're probably being gaslit in another way. And like, everybody, like, that guy dated this summer. Like, we were to July 4th party. And he said to me, he was like, can we take some pictures? Like, I want to use this for like my Instagram story. And I was like, oh, that's like a cool thing that you actually. want to do that. And like he asked me if it was okay. I don't know. How do you feel about asking somebody else if they mind you being, them being posted on your Instagram? Like, what have you started it?
Starting point is 00:48:25 Like, what have you said, like, do you think you have to ask? If you're like a July 4th party with a new guy and you tag them in something. Do you think that like you should have to ask somebody if they're cool with that? I think if you're with them, it's fine to be like, are you cool if I post this? Like I with that guy in Miami that I dated for a minute, like when I was posting us, I'll be totally honest. I won't was kind of trying to make somebody else jealous. I liked him, but I was being a little manipulative. So again, we've all, we've, I'm human, you guys. And but we were on the beach. We took a really great picture of us on the beach with some coronas. And I was like, are you cool if I post this? And he was like, yeah, you know, like, I think it's fine to be like, yes, we had just like I'm friends.
Starting point is 00:49:03 I was like, look at her. She's so confident. She's just going to, I actually thought that. I was like, this is like a cool-ass girl. She's so confident. She's like, I don't give a fuck. I'm doing this experience. It doesn't mean we're getting married because I tag them. It wasn't, what I did was I put it on, I put the photo as an Instagram story. I did not, I never posted me and him on my Instagram feed because I honestly didn't see a future. I posted the picture as a story and then a gallery on Facebook, like had a great time in Miami, just to be subtle about it, part of a gallery. Like that's also a way to be more subtle is put him in the slideshow.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Yeah, just little things at first. And I think that if you really get to the point, but like, change your question. I think it's fine to be like, hey, are you. cool if I post this? Yeah. Also, with women, like, you're going to ask a girl if you can post it, men. Oh, the photo on their feed. Oh, you better run that shit by me. I bet you bastune that. I better smooth my skin out. I'm going to put seven filters from 12 different apps. I think in 2019, everybody's out here. Like, are you cool with this? Like, even men, men have gotten more narcissistic with how they look on social media and more aware of their appearance on social media. Like,
Starting point is 00:50:09 I think most of the time these days, you know, Bobby Corey, he posted a picture of us for from the show in Dallas. He ran it by me. Not me. I don't like that photo. Every time I go to his page, I'm upset about it. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:50:22 But I think that, yeah, it's fine to ask in the beginning. Like, do you mind if I do this on my Instagram story? I think that's a good way to get into it. I think that if you get to the point in a relationship where you really are dating the person and they're genuinely not posting you. Like, we always say this.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Like, in a perfect world, I would start every conversation with me statements and I feel like this. When you're mad, you're mad, you're mad. Okay. But I think that when you get to the point when you're in a serious relationship and you really are dating the person
Starting point is 00:50:45 and they are, it seems like they are consciously leading you out of their social media. I think it's fine to say to the person, have a glass of wine and just say like, hey, I feel like you're purposely leaving me out of this and is there a reason? Right. You know, I feel like you're not like showing me off
Starting point is 00:50:58 the maybe the way that I would want to show you off and is there like a reason for this? And I just think that you know if somebody posts all the time and if you're being fucking left out of it, you have a right to ask. I know, it's true. I mean, and I think I love that you said that. You can say, hey, I, I,
Starting point is 00:51:12 I like am really enjoying dating you. I'm like so proud of you. I post you on my social media. I'm just wondering are you like kind of weird about that? You know, and you might get an answer that you weren't prepared for. Like you really might got a guy that's like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:51:25 I have this girl and I posted her so much in social media and she really fucked me up and I am just a little more cautious and I'm just going to like give it a little bit more time. You might get an answer like that or you might get a guy that starts stumbling and bumbling over his words and you're starting to get shady vibes. You just know when you can't fucking true. You fucking know. I know.
Starting point is 00:51:45 I truly. I can't start that conversation. I know the fucking end at this conversation. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. Feel free to email us. But I am doubtful that there is a relationship that's super solid. The guy is so proud of her. He is excited that he's dating this girl.
Starting point is 00:51:59 All his friends and his family know. And he's active on social media and she's not part of a social media. I mean, find me a scenario. It's just usually not the case. And I can't even imagine. There's no privacy that you need to keep. No one gives a shit who you're dating. You're not George Clooney.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Nobody fucking cares who you're, dating. We're at a wedding. You could post a photo of me at the wedding unless you're doing some shady shit. Okay. Let's talk about the wedding. As I said, I see so many couples go insta-official at a wedding. I think if you go to a wedding with a guy, like you guys are that close that he brought you to a wedding
Starting point is 00:52:29 and he doesn't post a pick of the wedding. Red flag. Also, I got a little trick for you girls. It's very manipulative. Again, I can't I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. If this goes wrong, you can't blame me. I'm not even saying it's good advice. I'm saying it's a, I do this every once in a while. I've given little tips and tricks here and there that I cannot say that they're guaranteed to work, but it's
Starting point is 00:52:50 it's something. Okay, so here's what you do. So if you get a picture of you and this guy that you want to be on his social media, make sure you take it with his phone and then just touch it up a little. So he can't deny how good he looks because men have egos too. So give him a little tooth whiten, jack him up a little bit, maybe nipping his waist a little bit, maybe throw a filter on it, drop him. Drop him. his hair line. Drop his hairline and send it back to him like, oh my God, isn't this picture so cute? You guys, don't go too hard on it. Don't do the smoothing on him because that's going to look crazy.
Starting point is 00:53:23 When you smooth a man's face, it is wild. Never smooth a man. But you guys, get in there, face tune you both, just a smidge that he'll never know. And you send it back to him. You send it back to him and he's going to be like, damn, we look good. And he's going to post it. I can't guarantee it. But you're right.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Don't overwhiten the teeth. you see somebody's teeth and you're like, that's not what your teeth look like. Yeah. And then you cannot smooth a man's face. It looks crazy. Don't smooth his face. But again, you can work a little bit with that hair line and just jack him up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:53:52 You know what I mean? Yeah, make him look better so that other women are attracted. No, but like, and also, you know, like give yourself a little touch up too. Like I'm saying, like, send him this iconic power couple picture that he can't deny. And he's like, damn, we look good. I got to post that. Guys, have egos too. I like this tip.
Starting point is 00:54:12 All right. If you guys have ever done this, let us know. try it this weekend. But you know, it's funny that the girls are going to like try to maneuver this because it has to be on your phone, obviously. So like, can you pick, can you see a scenario where the guy's like, take a picture with my phone? And you're like, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Use my phone. Yeah, but I feel like all girls, like you can win that argument pretty quickly. It's like, let's use my phone. And you're a man. Yeah, you guys, if you, again, go go out and buy the iPhone 11. So you can always trump a guy with your phone and, you know, get this done. You're welcome. I will say, though, if a man is not posting me on the social media,
Starting point is 00:54:42 you better not be posting other people. Don't make me look like a jerk. Good call. Like, I mean, I've talked about this a long time ago, but I was like, my ex never posted me on social media. I don't care. He posts like three times a year. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:53 I saw a photo on Facebook this years ago. And it was like him in like a pretty suggestive situation with two other girls. And like I was furious. And he was like, you know, I would never post something like this publicly if I was really trying. And I was like, I don't fucking care. You make me look like a jerk when you post stuff like this. I never ask you to post anything of me.
Starting point is 00:55:08 But don't suggest that you are single via you and these two girls in this photo. Don't make me look like a jerk. Amen, sis. That is a huge red flag. If he, if you were dating somebody, full-blown dating, again, you guys, most of this is talk about like you've had the talk. You're committed. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Or you feel committed. You're good. You guys are a thing. And he hasn't posted you, but he posts like a picture with another girl or two other girls. Like, you feel like a fool. I felt, I was, I was never, I was in Thailand. I was walking around and I was like, nope. I was so angry. And it's not that I didn't trust him. It was none of that.
Starting point is 00:55:43 It's not that I didn't think he was proud of me or cared about me. It's just you make me look like an asshole by suggesting that that is okay behavior with you and other people because it's not. And if it's a guy, if my guy that I'm dating is posting pictures with just him and like a girlfriend, cool, as long as I'm on there too, you know, like I'm thinking of like Bobby Westside. He posted me a picture of me and him at my birthday. Like just me and him. Like if you saw it isolated, you might think we were a couple.
Starting point is 00:56:08 But his girlfriend's all over that page. You know, it's very clear. but like had she not been like, you know, that type of thing. Yeah. And they're fucking with you, by the way. They're trying. If a guy does that, if a guy, guys know, they know they haven't put you on their Instagram and they put a picture of like them and some other girls.
Starting point is 00:56:25 They know that they're pissing you off. Do not let them make you feel crazy. Absolutely. Even to this, I mean, we've been broken up for a long time. You know, to say he like jokes about it. You got so mad. Yeah, I did. I got really mad because you're suggesting to other people that you don't care how I look.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Yeah. And again, I don't like it. Right. And we can't say this enough. We've said it on multiple episodes. Don't take this whole like, It's just social media. Again, if someone is so anti-social media, they barely have it.
Starting point is 00:56:46 They post once a year. They can say that. But if they're active on social media and they try to gaslight you with it's just social media, fuck yourself. Bitch, no, it's not. Half the relationships today start on social media. That's all it is. It's your own personal magazine of your life.
Starting point is 00:56:58 And I'm not part of it. I want to know why. I'm mad just thinking about every time I think about that situation, I get pissed. But also, girls, again, like, check yourself and your level of patience. And if it is new and it is fresh, and you were just antsy because you want him to post you, just relax. We're months in, you can start to wonder, but like always, same with having sex.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Just patience is key with a lot of this stuff. Like waiting to have sex for the first time? Like how we say, like, if the chemistry is there today, it'll be there tomorrow. Like, you don't need to rush into it, you know? Like, just because you posted this great picture, you guys, you don't need to be like every single day that passes wondering why he hasn't reciprocated. Just relax. I have a problem with that sometimes where I get.
Starting point is 00:57:42 I try to have these hard conversations through humor where I'll like joke and heckle people and sometimes I take it a little too far and I just need to like I do, I need to relax. Like I, that is something that I struggle with when I don't like something. I will like bring it up a few times and heckle and make jokes about it. And then I think that I almost like put myself in a situation where like I act like I think it's funny and it's not. I don't know. I'll give a different example at some other point.
Starting point is 00:58:05 But I just don't want to like, don't let that get too far either where you're just constantly bringing it up and making jokes and heckling somebody. It feels naggy at some point. Yeah, if you want to have a conversation about it, have a conversation about it, I just fall prey to, like, making a joke of it. And then I think people just think I think it's funny and I'm too far down the road to have a serious conversation. So I just wanted to put that out there in terms of just like having serious conversations. Don't make a joke so many times.
Starting point is 00:58:27 They're like, nobody cares. Yeah. I see what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. Like, oh, she just brought this up a million times in a joking way. Like, I don't need to address this seriously. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:35 And just, I'm just saying, girls, I mean, guys should be super proud of you. If they're active on social media, they should be. posting you. Let them do it first. Hold the power. If you want, that's what worked for me. I mean, until it didn't, but I'm just saying. Okay. Now let's fast forward to when you guys break up. Yes. He has done something terrible. You guys have broken up. What do you do with all those photos? I think we both have had like different experiences where you like delete them all in a fit of rage or whatever. But, like, my experience personally is that, like, I, after, I have a friend yesterday who told me she was, like, posting more. She was like, I've been posting, like, crazy because I just want to, like, get him off the feed.
Starting point is 00:59:20 She was trying to, like, bury him. Which I think is interesting. Personally, for me, like, at the end of a relationship, I feel a lot of, like, emotional pain looking at those photos. You can a totally different take on this, which I love. But for me, like, I feel like a lot of emotional, especially reading the comments about, like, I love you guys. You're so cute. The cutest couple. And for me, that's so painful to look at.
Starting point is 00:59:38 So I have always gone in and deleted this stuff just for my. own mental health. Yeah. I, uh, we, yeah, I forget who we talked about this with. Oh, I think we talked about it with Eden. Um, I think you do whatever you think is healthy. Also, one thing that's nice is, which for your friend, I guess she didn't feel like deleting him. They had a pretty painful breakup. Uh, a nice feature now is that you can archive, you know, which, again, this shouldn't sound crazy. It shouldn't sound extreme. Social media is the world today. And if you have a bunch of photos of this person that you loved and you had a great relationship, with and it's kind of painting you to look at, but you feel like you don't want to fully delete
Starting point is 01:00:14 them, you can archive them. And you can, I've done this with a couple of photos for various reasons, not even related to relationships, just like archived them. So if you ever want to repost them to, and to go back into your feed and your social media imprint, you can. I deleted a bunch of photos of me and my last ex in a fit of rage. And looking back, I don't regret it. I don't care, but I wouldn't have done it because he was an important part of my life I would have untagged him because all you bitches go and found you found that one picture
Starting point is 01:00:45 I mentioned it one time these girls went and found him I was like untagged they're going to oh my God but I am I he I don't hate this person I don't really hate anybody I've ever dated like it was an important part of my life like those were good those were my memories I'm not down with this like delete these people
Starting point is 01:01:03 like I'm looking there's a photo book right here it's from a family vacation like he was on it I'm not going to rip the pages out. Like, it was my memories. I don't want to be with this person. Like, anybody that dates me is going to know that. I think if you, if something's making you feel bad, delete it. But don't delete it because you feel like you have to or someone else is wanting you to.
Starting point is 01:01:21 That would be crazy. If you dated somebody in there like, why aren't you deleted the photos of your ex? I'd be like, I'm not doing that. Like, it's not because I miss them or want to be with them still. It's just like, that was my life at that point. I shouldn't have to delete this person. And again, like this is to each their own type of thing. but I don't think someone should ever ask that of you.
Starting point is 01:01:39 No one's ever asked me. It's interesting to me. I just, no one's ever asked me. And so I just think like if you're in a new healthy relationship, there's nothing wrong with just acknowledging that you used to be in a different healthy relationship. Like, the only reason to delete stuff, I think personally it's just for your own mental health.
Starting point is 01:01:52 So like you don't want to see it out of there. But like, I can't imagine a man saying to be like, take that down or don't post that or like, like I have photos on Facebook. I'm not Instagram, but Facebook of like my last relationship. My whole family is in them.
Starting point is 01:02:04 I'm not going to delete them because he was in them. I certainly wouldn't do it if somebody asked me. Yeah. And again, it's how you broke up. It's how you're with this person. Like divorces, broken engagements, I think you should cleanse. You know, and I had a girlfriend that she's remarried now and they just had a kid. I love it so much.
Starting point is 01:02:22 But she was with the guy that it ended, she was married and it ended terribly. And her friends came over and it was more of the Facebook days, but her friends came to her house and deleted him from her Facebook and did it for her. They were divorced. I can't remember if she cheated. He did something terrible. They were not getting back together, you know. And that was the thing with me too
Starting point is 01:02:39 When I deleted all those photos of me and my ex We got back together So I was like god damn it You know like we had these great cute photos of us And they're gone now They're just gone It made me kind of sad Not now but back then
Starting point is 01:02:49 And so I think it's to each their own It's situation specific I don't think there's a hard and fast rule I'm not deleting my memories And you're not going to make me Yeah I think also don't do it for like attention You know like people go in there They delete all the photos
Starting point is 01:03:02 So that a million people reach out to you And be like oh my God What happened? And you always get back to you together with that person. Then you've deleted all this shit of them. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, when I broke up with my most serious ex-seye, my girlfriends came where they took all of his pictures out of the frames. They took all of like the remnants of him out of my life and took me off social media and things like that. And so whatever you need to do to feel better, but like I would
Starting point is 01:03:22 never demand that another person like deletes something that was like important to them once. And I totally agree with you, I don't want to date somebody who like hates all their exes. Yeah. Like I dated this guy for not that long on and I'm for like three months and then on and off for a wow. But he like despised his ex in a way that I never understood. She didn't cheat. She didn't do anything crazy. And it was like, I found out that he was just a, I just was like, what is wrong with you that you hate this person so much? And like he cheated on her. Yeah. So like I just, I think about it now. Like what you were just like drumming up like a fictitious situation so that I was like, oh, poor you. Yeah. I want to date somebody like hates their exes like that. Yeah. I don't like,
Starting point is 01:04:01 you know, the other day, um, my ex from many years ago. popped up on my Facebook. It was eight years ago. And the picture is the funniest fucking thing ever. It's me and him on the couch, like looking at something on an iPad. And then my cousins, like, not my grandmother, but their grandmother from their other side is like kind of laid behind us. She was dead. She did die years later, but she wasn't, she wasn't dead then. And we should
Starting point is 01:04:27 post this all blackout's face. And I loved that that photo came up. He and I ended amicably. I think about him from time. to time. I hope he's doing well. I think he has a family now. Like, I would have never deleted that. Like, these are my memories and that he came to Miami for Thanksgiving. That was a great time I had with him. Like, if I had a serious boyfriend right now and he was pissed that that photo came up and I would be like, you're not for me. Like, I don't think that you need, you know, I think sometimes, like, we don't do photo albums as much anymore, like with pictures that you print out. I don't even
Starting point is 01:05:00 know where to print fucking pictures out. But like, if there's photo books, I have some right here. like, I don't know, I wouldn't want a photo book of my, the person I'm dating and their ex on the coffee table, but I wouldn't expect them to burn it. Like, it should be in storage. Like, I think people should be able to preserve their memories. I just think like that. That's just me. I just never, we should do an episode about this sometime. I don't know if you ever talked about like crazy jealousy issues and like where they come from. I don't think we've ever, right? We ever touched on this like deep dove into jealousy? We should talk about that. But like, it's interesting to me because, like, the only reason why somebody would have such a problem with that is because they have like crazy
Starting point is 01:05:33 jealousy issues, which either come from the fact that they're doing something shady or something tremendously shady has happened to them. I have never dated a person that was jealous. Like, maybe it's not pretty enough. I don't know. But I've never had somebody demand that I not talk to other men, take photos down. And I've just never dealt with it. And I think that this is probably girls that are dealing with boyfriends that are tremendously jealous. And usually that's because they are doing something tremendously untrustworthy. Right. Or they're just, or they have just straight up jealousy issues, which is something to check. I wouldn't be down with that.
Starting point is 01:06:05 But I think that aside, if anybody's giving you shit of like, you should delete your ex from your social media, you don't have to if you don't want to. It doesn't mean you still want to be with them. Like, that's the guy I'm telling you about. We dated so many years ago. Like I saw that picture. I was so happy.
Starting point is 01:06:23 You know, another picture popped up of us. We went to a wedding. I was like, oh my gosh. We had such a fun day. You're right, though. Just having an old photo. Somebody doesn't mean I don't want to date. you currently. I didn't know you were alive
Starting point is 01:06:33 when I was dating this person. I'm not doing anything wrong and you're not going to tell me what to do. No. It's a crazy thing. And it doesn't mean anything on you. It doesn't mean that you're not over it or you still pine for them. It doesn't. It's just like that was a time of my life. Also, newsflash, I can pine for somebody to masturbates them every single day. They don't need to be on my social media or not.
Starting point is 01:06:54 They're in a secret folder. Wait, your ex that you said didn't ever post you. Did you post him? No. You guys do not care about each other. Data for two years. Did not give a shit about each. Talk every day to this day.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Talk every single day. I will say though, like I did mirror the behavior. I wasn't, and everybody's different, but like I wasn't out here. My Instagram was a food blog at the time anyway, so I wasn't doing a ton of social media. But like, I did mirror it. I was like, okay, well, if you're not going to do this, I'm not really going to do it either. And everybody's different. Some people are super secure in doing that.
Starting point is 01:07:33 If your man doesn't post, I'm not saying you shouldn't. It's just I mirrored his behavior a lot. Yeah. And that wasn't good. that we were not together anymore because of it. You know, like he withheld praise, I withheld praise. Like, all that shit. So whatever.
Starting point is 01:07:45 I mean, and since we broke up, it's not like he has all these, like, successful long-term relationships. So we're fine. Right. You guys are best friends. One more thing. Didn't really happen in the outline, but overposting. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:58 We get it. Everybody gets it. Okay. There is one couple of particular we talk about it a lot, but it's like we fucking get it. You're happy. You're in love. You're fucking. You're fucking all.
Starting point is 01:08:08 the time. Everyone gets it. It's enough. It's a lot. It's so much. Like I, this is not like out of any sort of like jealousy or I want that. It's truly, it seems inauthentic when it's so much every day. And it might not be. Like, I get it. When you are so in love with somebody, you are blinded by it. They're all you think about. They're all you care about. You want to put some over your social media and scream it from the rooftops. I get it. But the couple that we're thinking of and they're, they're whatever, they're in the spotlight. but we also know them, but it is,
Starting point is 01:08:42 it's been a while now and it's still like every day, you just become that obnoxious couple. I just unfollow it. I mean, it's sickening. I'm not jealous. I've been madly in love multiple times.
Starting point is 01:08:54 I've never posted like that. Yeah. It's just, we, right, it's like, this guy, oh my God, I'm so love. We get it. We get it. This is your first relationship?
Starting point is 01:09:01 What are you doing? Yeah. More dog, down. Please, get a dog. If you don't have one, that's what people care about anyway. That's all they want.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Tell us about your sex life or like the fights you guys are having. Tell us some good dirt. We fucking get it. You're in love. It's a lot. It's crazy though because you do see like when couples, some, not all posts like crazy like that. They just break up out of the blue and you were like you were overcompensating for problems within the relationship. Well, your mouth was like cash in a pretty hefty check.
Starting point is 01:09:31 You know, like you're posting like crazy. Okay, well, if you broke up, we need to know why. I need posts about that too. Yeah. If you, you, we're, we've been involved. We're part of this relationship. Yeah, you've ran it down our throat. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:42 So now we need to know. Yeah. I need a breakup post. A lot of them. I mean, the couple we're thinking of, she would. You know, she's going to like live stream the break. Yeah. For the breakup.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Yeah. They'll do, they'll put it on an ABC. Um, yeah, I, uh, you always, you always got to wonder when it's so over the top. Because I think sometimes people are trying to trick themselves. I know a guy that I used to date that, I feel like he does that. People do this with everything. It's when it's like the feeling of like, you're sad. So you post like an uplifting quote on Instagram. It's kind of this like fake it till you make it. Like mindset. Inauthentic authenticity. Yeah. Or like even even you're trying to believe this. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:10:23 Like I think sometimes people if they have a problematic relationship, they post on social media not in a deceitful way. And I want to believe this. And so if I get a bunch of likes on this and I get a bunch of engagement on this, like, I will believe that my relationship is okay. I think it more comes from that. I don't think it's like, I'm going to post this thing and show everybody it's perfect. It's like, I actually want it to be perfect. Like, I actually want to believe what I'm writing and the caption and the loving picture. So if I can just get validation from others, like, I'll feel like it's solid. Yeah. I mean, I think we see a lot of people do that. Yeah, you're looking for the, like, the validation from other people to be like, you guys are a couple goals. Yes. So great.
Starting point is 01:10:56 It's like, yeah, we all want that. But like, I'd rather get it like, I don't know. I think we covered a lot of ground. Yeah, I hope you guys like this. We never done like a whole episode about this. I don't know. I think in conclusion, like, you know your partner, just trust your gut. Don't start fights about something that's like, just relax. You know, don't start fights about something crazy. But like when you get to a point
Starting point is 01:11:14 where you feel really uncomfortable, you're allowed to say something and you're not crazy for saying something. Right. And if you guys go to wedding together and face tune him into oblivion. No. Do not smoke his face. And if he doesn't pose a picture, red flag. Yeah, he didn't like you. Because every, haven't you
Starting point is 01:11:30 You see, Rana, there was a point where I feel like I saw like three couples in one week go Insta official from like a photo from a wedding. Because like it's what you do. You post like you first, you and your, you're, you and your date first. Then you post something with the bride and the groom next. Then you post some dumb picture of white people dancing at the reception. That's when you're looking fly. It's the high.
Starting point is 01:11:50 You've leveled up. Like it's the hottest you're going to look. Your man's going to look. Like I'm not posting a photo. You like on a Sunday morning at brunch. Right. Like that's a year into the relationship. People can look at you looking shitty.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Yeah. All right. Okay. Nailed it. You know, I'm just excited to get to the end of this episode. Oh, my God. Okay. So we did this. Fuck your phone.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Fuck my phone. Fuck my phone. Which you came up with the title and I was like, ah, how's this going to go? And again, we thought we were going to get all the same stuff. And we have gotten the craziest shit about how your phones have deceived you guys. I was reading every email I opened today. I was hysterical.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Guys, I am kind of sad that I read these earlier because I was having like hysterical outbursts. Actually was crying. I was crying laughing at every single one of them. Raina went through all the email. and found these, and I was reading them before we started recording. I wish I would have saved them so you could get my real reactions because it was hysterical laughter.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Oh, you know, I'll tell you what happened to me last week. I get to read number two. Oh, you want to read number two? Okay, I'll read number one. Last week what happened to me was, I was out of that guy in South Carolina, and I had taken a photo of him while he was like making me a cheese plate to like send to everybody that I knew to be like, oh my God, look at this guy doing this thing for me. Anyways, so I took a photo of him, whatever.
Starting point is 01:12:58 later on we went out to a bar and I wanted to show this is so humiliating I went out to a bar with him we were having some drinks and I wanted to like show him a photo of my sister-in-law I think it was so I opened up my photos and the first photo is the photo that I took of him in his kitchen that I did not tell him it gets so much worse so I'm like okay maybe it did so I exit out of it real quick and then the whole screen of photos are photos of his Instagram that I had screenshot oh my god like 10 of them. You guys, you've got to be careful. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Just don't lead with your phone. Yeah. He should have been fucking looking at that. Okay. You guys get a burner phone. This first one at first. Because we're all creeps, you know. This first one at first, I was like, is this funny?
Starting point is 01:13:41 It is so funny. Okay. Last year I had gone on what I thought was an amazing first date. After I date, we texted a bit and then he didn't reach out for a while. I figured it was fine because he lived pretty far away. Fast forward a couple months. My best friend texted me and asked one of the last time was that I had heard from the guy. I was running on the treadmill when she texted me.
Starting point is 01:13:56 I scrolled down. to the text exchanges between me and the guy and found the date he last texted me. Still running, I thought I had sent the date to my best friend. And when she didn't text me back, I immediately looked back at my phone to make sure it had sent and realized I had sent the actual date to the guy. I literally sent 12-2018 to him. That's their anniversary. I was mortified.
Starting point is 01:14:21 He wrote back, ha-ha, what? Mind you, this was two months after our first date and a month of us, a month of gone by without us texting. I didn't know what to but to own up to it and tell my and tell my friend and ask me the last time we had talked was. Can you imagine that you ghost somebody and then two months later they just send you the date of the last
Starting point is 01:14:39 exchange you guys had? It's so embarrassing. You guys don't run in text or if you're like Raina don't run at all. The moral in story guys is don't exercise. Don't exercise. But if you guys do, use OpenFit. Okay. So I love this one.
Starting point is 01:14:57 this would happen to me. Oh, my Instagram searches are so creepy. Okay. My sister told me that one time she was trying to show some guy something on Instagram, open the app and she had it on his page. Two-parter trying to pretend she hadn't been creeping on him. She quickly clicked the search tab,
Starting point is 01:15:19 then clicked into the search bar, and the most recent searches popped up. Her most recent search was his ex-girlfriend. That is so much worse than the point. first thing. I mean, look, we all know that you're out here doing this shit, but to have the confirmation in front of your eyes, the ex-girlfriend, can you imagine if you opened up a dude's phone, your shit was there, and then your ex-boy's phone was there? I mean, that is, we all do it, but that is humiliating. It's so embarrassing. And I believe this wholeheartedly, because like,
Starting point is 01:15:51 you know, you're trying to show somebody something. So first of all, his page pops up, but then you try to search whatever you were looking to find. So, yeah, you go to your search. I think the world, that story and my story is like, just don't shows somebody's your phone when you're opening it up. You cannot. I'm gonna fucking die last week. We got a privacy screen. You guys, be careful out there.
Starting point is 01:16:07 This applies to me too. I'm an idiot. Oh my God, this one. This next one is so funny. All these are so funny. We love you, girls, so much. Okay, so I was about to go on a second date with a super cute guy,
Starting point is 01:16:18 and the day before the date, we were talking about what movie we wanted to see. I was about to head to cycling, and right before I sent him what I thought was a screenshot of movie times. According to my cycling class, I checked my phone to see if he'd responded and looked to my messages and realized I had sent a screenshot of my bank account instead. This is so bad. I felt more exposed than I had, if I had sent a nude. To top it off, it was the day before payday, and I only had $26 in my checking account.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Can you imagine what's going through his head? I felt like he could have taken this as a wow, this girl is definitely not chipping in on the date. Side note, I had a lot of my savings, so at least that was a save. He was nice about a promise he didn't look, but we never went on a third date. Fuck my phone. Can you imagine you are setting up a date with somebody? And then while you guys are working out the date details, you sent up a screenshot of your checking account with $26 in it.
Starting point is 01:17:21 He's like, wow. This feels on purpose. She's really trying to tell me something. So embarrassing. Also, bitch, put some money in your checking account. Also, again, don't exercise. I can't stress this enough. Why are we exercising?
Starting point is 01:17:36 This is what happens. Is this one going to... Yeah. Should we read the... Okay. I had been seen this guy for three months and we were texting constantly.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Also, when I say seen, I mean, we are not monogamous at this point. I had just got new AirPods and I was texting another friend while using them and noticed it said, Ellie's AirPods too, which pissed me off
Starting point is 01:17:54 since I was still butt hurt that I lost my first pair. I took a screenshot of the message and sent it to him to see if he knew how to change the name. He had just got new AirPods too and we have a lot of inside jokes about them. I then realized later
Starting point is 01:18:05 that my previous text to my friend Savannah were talking about him. And the worst part is that it's perfectly placed above the AirPods title and looks like I'd put it there on purpose in order to send it to him. Needless to say, things were awkward and he wasn't wanting anything serious. You guys, okay, so I just need to, I feel like that was whatever. She explained the best she could, but I do feel like it was a little bit convoluted. So, yeah, this guy, she's like, why does my AirPods say AirPods too?
Starting point is 01:18:27 Can this tech guy who knows tech help me? So she sent, you know, when you see if your AirPods are charging, it pops up. And it'll pop up over any screen. So she had been texting, Ellie had been texting with Savannah and her checked her AirPods, sends a screenshot in the background. This is so bad. Here is her text with Savannah. She wrote, he is so nice to me, but I just want to be his girlfriend already. And it's worse.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Savannah wrote, I made Justin ask me, LMAO. Ellie writes, I am 90% sure that he wants to date me, but I can't 100% tell and I don't want to ruin what we have. So I guess I'm just going to sit and wait for him to ask. And then it says, Ellie's AirPods too. 63% in the left, 83% in the right. You guys, this screenshot is so insane.
Starting point is 01:19:13 We're going to ask them if we can post this. I mean, we already said their names, whatever. They didn't say change our names, did they? No. Elliot, Savannah and Justin,
Starting point is 01:19:20 these people know who they are. This is so embarrassing. I can't, I'm, you guys, this is one of the best ones. It's hard because there's a visual, but like that she sent this guy's screenshot
Starting point is 01:19:31 telling her friend, I want to be his girlfriend. I'm 90%. and sure he wants it to. This guy would run for the hills. It's so funny. But it's, again, like, if this guy really was into her, he would have loved it. He would have laughed it off and you guys would be a girlfriend, boyfriend.
Starting point is 01:19:47 But it doesn't sound like that's probably what happened. That was not the case. Right? Um, okay. I was talking. This is my favorite. This is my favorite. You guys have found so many ways to humiliate yourself in different ways. Um, I was talking to this pilot from Norway for a little while.
Starting point is 01:20:06 We met and went on a vacation. there for a week. He offered to fly me back out and go to Thailand after he moved into a new home. Okay, he's rich. I was skeptical and tried to reverse search his number to make sure he wasn't crazy, only to prove I'm crazy. When I did his address popped up, so naturally I Google mapped it. I took a screenshot of the conversation and the home. I meant to send it to my friend who went on the trip with me. Instead, I sent it to him. I sent him his address and a picture of his current house. I cannot. I only found out I sent it to him when he texts me back saying, I don't think that was meant for me. I am so to imagine. But it's like, if that guy got weirded out, like he's gonna murder you. Like, I think any normal person would be like, yeah, you want to investigate if I was like a murderer. That guy last, when I was in Charleston, he was like, did you tell your friends your guy? I was like, bitch, I sent your address to everyone. Yeah. Everyone I know. Not me. Ouch. That's so funny. A picture of the house. He sent him his house.
Starting point is 01:21:07 It's so funny. Okay. All right. Here's the last one. It's very funny. Okay. I was texting with a friend after a date to let her know how it went and accidentally sent the message to the guy I had just gone out with saying, two dates down, still haven't slept with him.
Starting point is 01:21:20 I'm so proud of myself. I quickly realized my mistake and tried to recover, but he responded by asking if I normally sleep with people by the second date. He said that he won't have sex with someone until he's in love with them, which I can respect. But obviously the conversation deteriorated from there. Can you imagine making a mistake like that and then getting slut shamed by somebody? Right. You're already humiliated enough. And they're like, your life choices are terrible. I don't sleep with them until I'm in love with them.
Starting point is 01:21:47 Shut up. Okay. I just have an asshole. Don't just slut shame me. Shut up, Peter. I love that she's so proud of herself. Two days down, two haven't sucked them off. I like this girl.
Starting point is 01:21:59 She's fun. Oh my God. They're all funny. They're all funny. I mean, this is like the first six that I opened. Yeah. They're all great. You guys have been so great with these like really short email.
Starting point is 01:22:08 We're training. Yeah, you guys have been amazing. Keep sending short emails. You guys send some really funny holiday situation stuff. Keep sending those. What else? If you're coming to live shows, obviously send us stuff about that
Starting point is 01:22:20 and just always put in the subject line what you're coming to. And especially if you are coming to one of the Chicago live shows or one of the New York live shows, funny holiday stuff. So holiday stuff in general, we're going to use it on the podcast,
Starting point is 01:22:33 but holiday stuff for those shows specifically. And then for all other shows, it can run the gamut. We don't want you guys to feel pigeonholed into like, is this weird? It's like our power move. Like literally anything crazy, funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:44 If you have a visual to go with it, we will use that. Ashley loves a dick pick. I like. I'm so upset. Someone showed me a dick pick at, I think New Orleans meet and greet. And then from then on, I was like, hey, show me your dick picks at the meet and greet. She's been asking on stage for dick picks. And then I'm like, I don't want to see them.
Starting point is 01:23:05 And then I've been looking at all of them. You got the, some of the dick picks you girls have showed me. Some of them have really like scarred me. They're burned into my brain. that girl that took a selfie with her boyfriend's dick. A bunch of selfies with them. Like it was the roaming gnome. It was just all these different photos of her near his dick.
Starting point is 01:23:20 And then this one guy, it was a video and he, his dick was so big that he like threw a towel up in the air and like it fell down and landed on his dick. Like his dick was a fucking towel rack like his dick. Well, that was a giant black man. He's beautiful. His dick held the towel. Rock hard. I just, I mean, you've been asking for them and I act like I don't want them. Do not DM us dick pics, ladies.
Starting point is 01:23:46 I can't bring them to the mean. Great. Yes. For me. So Ashley can masturbate to that. I don't like, I don't even like the way dicks look. Something about dickpicks are so funny to me. There's never been one that didn't entertain me.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Because it's like the what went through this guy's head to take this. Like I find it so fascinating. I, that's, what, you said something made me last so hard. You were like, I just want to see all the different dumb shit they do with their dicks. I think that's it. That's why it's funny. Like, you just want to see. see what kind of dumb nonsense men are thinking of what their stupid penis. Oh my God. You guys,
Starting point is 01:24:20 we got to go. We got to go to Ozatar. We're going to dinner. Um, also, stop asking us what to eat in Ozatar. Get everything. You know, you get, listen, I'll answer the question now. Just get everything. Get the dips. Get the pizza. The chicken is my favorite. Okay. Well, you know what? I'll say it. All the dips. Hummus, spicy hummus. Lobna, hulumi cheese, chicken kebab, falafel pizza. That's our order. You're welcome. Yeah, that's our order. People are going to be like, Jesus, crazy, we get it. Don't DM us.
Starting point is 01:24:49 If you DM us and ask us this, no, you rewind the podcast. I'm not doing this, ladies. We told you what to get it. Screen record it. Save it. We love you. Don't send it to someone you're dating. Right.
Starting point is 01:25:04 With a picture of your bank account. I just want to Ozzy Tark, can't afford dinner again. Okay, you want to take us out? Yeah, guys, thanks again for listening. Happy December. Follow us on Instagram. Girls Gotta Eat Podcast, Raina.
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Starting point is 01:25:31 Happy holidays, cuties. Happy holidays. Bye.

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