Girls Gotta Eat - Do You Want a Bad Boy? with Derek Drescher of Conbody

Episode Date: November 12, 2018

Should you date an ex-con? We brought in ConBody trainer and "formerly incarcerated individual" Derek Drescher to discuss dating when you have a record, and share his inspiring transformation from inm...ate to marathoner/keynote speaker/overall awesome dude. Other topics include Cheetos, dick measuring, Ariana Grande, keeping socks and boxers on during sex, and more. Enjoy! Follow Derek on Instagram @DerekDrescher. Follow Girls Gotta Eat @GirlsGottaEatPodcast, and check our website for show dates and merchandise. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I think I could date a guy that's in prison because at least I know where he is. Like, I know he's not out. Well, that was a big thing, too. When I would get locked up, she'd be like, oh, at least I know where you are. Welcome back to another episode of Girls Gotta Eat. Welcome back. Welcome back. I feel like I'm starting to be out in person at you really well.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Someone DMed that they're starting to talk like me. I was like, what does that mean? You don't understand. Ashley can't say the word money to me anymore because the money episode like six months ago. I have harassed her so hard for this. She was like, what do you say? Can I have some money? You don't make your own money?
Starting point is 00:00:50 She can't see the word money to me anymore. It's really like every time right before I'm about to say money, I'm like, is there any other word I can use? Because Raina won't take, well, like, we can't, we can't cash. We can't get through the sentence. Actually, like, do you have a couple dollars? I just don't have any currency on me? I don't know any dollars on me.
Starting point is 00:01:08 We were in Chicago on Wednesday for a live show. We are obviously recording this before the live show, so we'll give you an update next week. Right before it. We're still pretty timely, guys. We're not recording really far out, but we just had to knock this out so we could get it to you guys on Monday. So we'll give you a full recap in Chicago next week. And we are going to be announcing a lot more live shows, probably next week or the week after. We are so excited.
Starting point is 00:01:30 We have so many cities to announce. I can't wait. Really fun 2019. Coming in hot. Or really cold, actually. Before we get started. I can't believe we agree to do all this stuff in February. I was really the dumbest day.
Starting point is 00:01:43 We're going to die in February. You're like, you know what we want to do is not going toward this summer. to go and tour in February. Notoriously the coldest month with the most blizzards. We're going to like the coldest cities. So if you live in the coldest cities, you can probably guess what's on deck in February. If you can get hypothermia walking outside, we're coming to you. Girls got to eat does Antarctica. Here we come. The frostbite tour. That's what you're calling it. So we're at Ashley's apartment today. I'm not going to totally reveal what's happening, But you guys message us a lot about extra episodes.
Starting point is 00:02:20 You want more than one episode a week. You want bonus episodes. So we are working on a fun project. We're going to be releasing lots of new content for you guys. So stay tuned. We'll announce it next week. This week, I think. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Just we're going to announce it at some point. We're teasing it right now. It's called a tease. Nobody's ever called me that. They call me all the way, Raina. Yeah, new content coming soon. In addition to new content, we got holiday merch coming out. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:51 We have the cutest shirts. Ashley came up with the idea for so many cute shirts. Yes, guys, girls got to eat podcasts. Dot shop is our store. Holiday sweatshirts. So cute. Holiday parties. Our amazing designer, Leah, designed the coolest stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:06 She's here with us. Are they so cute? They're so cute. They're the cutest. But anyways, you guys can get those. We'll keep you updated also on shipping dates. it definitely gets a little backed up during the holidays, so we'll let you know the exact date you have to buy things by to get them by Christmas.
Starting point is 00:03:22 And aren't we like already celebrate? I mean, we're celebrating Christmas right now. I am. I'm in my full-blown Hallmark movie watching and Mara Carey listening. I'm going to snort. Girls got to snort sometimes really hard. Oh, that's like a drug reference. We'll get to the drugs later.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Oh my God. Should we, okay, should we talk about what's been going on? I think that's everything. New York holiday shows are sold out. Again, more cities to announce. Beanies are also up. Silence from Raina. First time ever.
Starting point is 00:03:57 The beanies are so cute. We sold a beanie before we even announced that they were on this site. And Raina was like, oh, sold a beanie, huh? You're so anti. I wear a beanie every day. I'm wearing a beanie right now. You're personally victimized by the girls got to eat beanie.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Last night, Ashley was like, we should make the beanies live. And I just like went to sleep. First I watched like four hours of stand-up comedy, then I went to sleep. Yes. I tell Ashley, I watch stand-up every night now, and it's like I'm like a one-woman like documentarian now about stand-up comedy, like a profession I will never go into. I do stand-up comedy and I do not watch it. No interest.
Starting point is 00:04:37 So I think about it like this. I'm like sort of jealous that like, we do these live shows and you have all this experience from like being able to do live shows and I don't have any. So that's why I've been watching so much. So I feel like we have these live shows. and I want to be, like, worthy of being on these stages because, you know, I get insecure sometimes, just like regular people.
Starting point is 00:04:53 But I was going somewhere with this. I don't, you just have all this experience, and I don't. And, I mean, I don't know, it would be like somebody trying to, like, cook for me. Like, I went to culinary school and everything about food and cooking. And, like, so, I mean, obviously, you don't watch it because you've done it. Well, it's not that. I love comedy. I just like it live.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Like, I just, there's so much that I feel like you lose. I just like being in a comedy club or, like, at a bar show or whatever. is. So, I mean, first of all, I think you do so amazing, obviously. It's shocking how great you are on stage for not having the experience. And even if you did, you're just great. Like, without any. Well, I feel more comfortable having you next to me. It's not the same as like standing up on stage, absolutely, you know. But it's also, I don't know, like, I understand, obviously people need to do specials. It's amazing to have comedy specials. It's amazing to be on Netflix or Comedy Central or whatever it is. I just, I feel like once you've gone to so many shows
Starting point is 00:05:43 in real life, it's just different. I just don't enjoy it. I'll find myself, zoning out where when I'm in a comedy club I'm so invested and I'm like the person laughing the most, you know? Maybe I just like to be naked while I watch comedy. Oh, okay. So you're just like masturbating to all these comedians. Yeah, a little bit. I have a comedian fetish right now.
Starting point is 00:05:59 It's so annoying. They're the worst. It's like, do you want to date somebody who can never see you ever and it's totally unstable? I'm comedians. Raina, I told her the other day, I was like, no, I was like, I'm going to stick through this with you and just wait it out, but I don't like it. I have a date next week with somebody who is not a comedian, so... He's funny.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I'm excited. This is a great story. You had some date stuff happen this week. It was pretty funny. Are you going to tell how this happened? How which thing happened? Your upcoming date. No, I'm not going to tell how it happened.
Starting point is 00:06:31 You're not. No, not yet. Until after the date. I'm not going to tell how I'm going to happen. Oh, my God. What a teaser. You know, it's funny. You always say to me, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:38 aren't you worried the guy's going to be scared to talk about the podcast? I always say, like, if they don't do anything terrible, horrible, I'm not going to talk about them on the podcast because I actually like somebody and they act normal, I'm not going to have anything to say about you. So, yeah, I think I'm going to keep it to myself how I'm at this guy because people will know who he is.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Okay, but just so we're clear, he very much knows about the podcast. Oh, very much. As he has listened may have been in attendance for a live show. That's all we're going to say. Yeah. So I love that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:04 He knows what he's getting into. Yeah, and the guy who I thought I liked last week, he confirmed who... Sean last week was like, yeah, he's just trying to, like booty call you, of course. And I was like, no, that's not the case. No, you were. We were like, oh, right. Shocked. Yeah. And then Sunday night at 1130, he hit me with a you up text. Oh my God. I was like, are you looking at booty call me at 1130 on a set of Sunday. You know what? And also, by the way, at least take me out for me, meet me for one drink once ever before you started hitting me up for like late
Starting point is 00:07:35 minimal effort. Are you serious? Yeah. I don't work. I am free seven days a week. I'm very easy to meet for a drink. Right. I mean, I'll make it seem like I'm. busy, but in general, I'll meet you for a drink. I mean, we can day drink, we can breakfast drink. Right. I'll breakfast and lunch you all day long. Any hour of the day. Yeah. Okay. So hit me with the U-Up. So I mean, so I posted a video on my Instagram story at like midnight so he knew I was awake and then didn't respond. Oh, got him. Big League. And then I watched comedy naked alone for a little while. Okay. Anyway, what a time to be alive. I feel like the introed us podcast is just the rain a rejection hour every week.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Well, speaking of hours in the day, I had this guy. We matched on, Hinge has been really been pretty solid for me lately. I've just been getting a lot of like matches. Guys ask me out here and there. So this guy, we matched. And this was last week. Rain and I were actually out at Happy Hour. And he was like, do you want to meet for a drink tonight after work?
Starting point is 00:08:36 Which I'm all about like, go, be spontaneous, whatever. Yeah. I'm kind of down for that. And my best guy friend Rob, he just got engaged. And that's actually how he and his girlfriend met. They met on an app. He was like, you want to meet right now? And they like hung out all night at this great first date.
Starting point is 00:08:51 But it was like, hey, you round, let's meet right now. Totally. I don't think you can play hard to get with somebody on a dating app. So he's like, do you want to go out for drinks after work? And, you know, you and I were already kind of having wine. After work, we've been drinking since four. Right. We were drinking since.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Right. Right. Okay. So now we're like a craft or two of wine deep. And it was like six, right? And so I was like, six 30. Sure. Yeah, I'm like, sure, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:09:13 And he was like, you pick the place. I was like, let's do East Village, eight o'clock. And he's like, oh, can we do nine? And I'm like, no. You know, like I'm just, that's three hours from now. I've been drinking and I just don't feel like it. I don't feel like got to go home, got to, you know, take the dog out and then I got to sit around for an hour.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Like, you had stuff to do. I was like, you wanted me after work. That's not nine o'clock to me. And so I was just like, no, nine o'clock's the end of the night. Nine o'clock is like a Saturday night, two a. So I'm like another, I'm like, no worries, another time, right? So that's a Thursday night. Friday night, Friday he gets me up and he's like, hey, what do you up to tonight?
Starting point is 00:09:50 I was like, I'll be out and about. I actually had a show, at a comedy show. I didn't tell him that. But I was like, I'll be out and about in the East Village. You know, here's my number. He was like, okay, I'll hit you up later. He like said later. 2 a.m. He texts me.
Starting point is 00:10:02 2 a.m. Hey, Ashley, you're still out. What? You're a stranger. Is this what I'm saying? Here's the thing. No. We talked about this.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I think we talked about this with Jared. It might have even been the lost episode. But regardless, the last episode of Jared freed. The first episode that never made it because the audio got all fucked up. This girl was like, I went out with the guy once, had a great date with him. And then, like, a couple nights later, he, like texted her in the middle of the night, like that, like two in the morning. And she felt offended because she felt like he was trying to do a booty call situation. And we said, no, that just means he got drunk, he was thinking about you.
Starting point is 00:10:36 It doesn't mean that. He might not still be trying to put you in this booty call late night territory. He probably was just thinking about you. You guys had a good date. You were viving. This guy and I haven't met. So it's so crazy that he would think I, a stranger, would go meet up with someone from an internet app at 2 a.m. That's nuts to me.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I find it really insult. I was insol- I was insol-I knew the guy that texted me on Sunday. I met him before. I'm friends with him. I think that that is super insulting. And so I'm like, but again, here, I'm kind of like, you know what? I'm trying not to write people off so quickly. Again, maybe just drunk.
Starting point is 00:11:05 That's what I said to you? I was like, you know, like, you'll wake up and be. embarrassed. Right. So next day, now we're Saturday, and he hits me up again, hey, how about tonight? Didn't really address anything, which I thought I would have been like, ha, sorry about the late night text. It wasn't. It was just a straight up, like, how about tonight? I'm like, this guy is really pursuing me hard. And I was out with guy friends. We were watching football on Saturday. And I was like, I could go meet him for a drink. Rob was like, go meet him around the corner, come back if it's bad. You know what I mean? Yeah. So now again, we're talking like 5, 6 p.m. I'm like, sure, why not? East Village, 8 o'clock again.
Starting point is 00:11:37 East Village, 8 o'clock. It's a couple hours away. Right. He's like, actually, can we do later? First of all, what does this guy have against 8 o'clock? He's triggered. So I was like, no. No.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Like, this is not, I'm sorry that I'm not going to meet a stranger out at 9 or 10 at night. I'm just not. First time, I was like, whatever. Second time, I was even like, ah, he'll wake up and be able. The third time, it's like, okay, it's clear what you want. Like, strike three. It's not personal. It's certainly, I mean, he doesn't know you.
Starting point is 00:12:05 It's not personal. Absolutely. This guy is on an app. to sleep with girls, that's fine? Is that his move? I don't know. There's something, I mean, I think if somebody wants to meet you at 9 p.m. on a work night, and most people, like, need to go home.
Starting point is 00:12:18 But, like, when I go all my friends that have, like, jobs, they need to be at their job at 8 o'clock in the morning and night in the morning. They go home at 10, 30, 11 o'clock. So, like, if somebody's meeting me out that late, that they want to meet me so they can spend the least amount of time with me before they have sex with me. It's just, I mean, I guess, but, like, again, I know people have, I think he's an attorney, actually.
Starting point is 00:12:35 I know people have busy jobs. again, I gave him like all this, this is a stranger. I gave this stranger, like, kind of like didn't love the like, actually, how about nine, again was like, he's probably busy at work. Didn't love the 2 a.m. text to a stranger. Again, I was like, whatever, one more chance. I'm like, no. Thirds, three strikes are out.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Yeah. Like, why do you hate a clock? What's wrong? I think that you give people enough rope to hang themselves. Like, and again, I said later, all I said was later isn't great for me, maybe another time, never heard from again. I think he was like, oh, she's, not going to fuck me. Right. And that's fine. Like if that's what he wants, but like, I think
Starting point is 00:13:10 you give people enough chances and like this dude I'm talking about last week. I was just, I finally was just like, hey, if you want to make the time, like let's meet up for a drink. Yeah. And he was like, well, I have all this stuff to do. And I was like, okay, no problem, but not doing this with you. Yeah, exactly. Like, you just have to say your boundaries. And like, again, I think, I hope that we're sending the message that like, don't be so quick to like red flag somebody and cut them off. But when you're, in a situation where this happened, then this happened. Oh, then this also happened.
Starting point is 00:13:40 It's like, get out of here. Well, you collect your enough of a stranger. Yeah, if you collect enough information. But I agree with you. Like, I think that, like, you don't want to write somebody off for every single thing. People are human. Like, oh, no, no, no. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:13:50 I tried to do eight. He said nine. We're done. I was like, all right, one more chance. You know what? Fine. Fuck it. One more chance.
Starting point is 00:13:56 You're a stranger. You're balding. I thought he was cute. His face is cute. He can shave his head. I don't mind a bald head. Do you? Way.
Starting point is 00:14:06 prefer a bald head over trying to hold on to that last little bit of hair. I think it's kind of sexy when guys shave their heads. Me too, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. If you're really thinning and you don't have a lot, I think you've got to get rid of it. Yeah. But I feel for guys that don't have the vibe to pull off bald and they're like super balding it, that sucks. Yeah, it sucks.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I think women have a lot more avenues to fix them. Look, I mean, I'm the first person. Like, I have fake hair, I've fake nails. I have veneers. So, like, you know, I'm the first person to go out pay for things that I need to pay for. But, you know, I think there's nothing wrong with, like, shaving your head and just embracing it. I know. I just, but, like, you know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Like, you definitely met guys where you're like, oh, honey, a shaved head is not going to really work for you. But what option do you have? I don't know. Shave your head. Save it works. Rock it out. Big dick energy. Walk around the ball out.
Starting point is 00:14:55 I like, do you know, I like a kind of like shaved head in a beard. Oh. And tats. I like a scary dude. You want some to look like they're going to murder you at any point. A little bit. Is that a good segue? Talking about murderers.
Starting point is 00:15:06 We are not talking about murders. Is that a good set way? Let's... We have a guest I'm so excited about in the studio today. He is a friend of mine. He is... What? Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:15:17 I introduce the guest. What? Every single other time we cut that and go with what we did in the intro. Okay, just don't fuck up up up. Let's start again. No, I don't want to start again. We can leave it. Anyways, guys...
Starting point is 00:15:26 Start again. You can't... Welcome to the... Welcome to the studio. Now you fucked up low. Oh, it's good. It's loosening me up, so I'm ready with that. Welcome to the studio, Derek Drescher.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Thank you. Thank you. Dresher. Dresher. Dresher, like the nanny. Like Fran. Like Fran. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Is that a Jewish name? It is. It's also German, German Jew. Oh, is that a thing? Can you be both? Absolutely. Living proof. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Yeah, you're looking at it. You're talking to it. All right, guys. So, first off, we just want you to introduce yourself. Who are you? Where are you from? What do you do? All right.
Starting point is 00:16:05 My name is Derek Dresher. I live in East New York, which is in Brooklyn, for those of you that don't know, the real Brooklyn. Born and raised in the streets of Brooklyn? My upbringing was super transient, so we'll get into that. But that is home right now. I am a trainer at ComBody. It is a boutique fitness studio that only hires ex-cons to teach their fitness classes. I'm also the studio manager there.
Starting point is 00:16:33 And Ashley took the class off night. I took your class last night. What did you think? It was intense. I mean, I love a class like that. It's like total body. There's no fancy weights, equipment. I mean, yeah, you'll talk about it, but it's what you can do in a jail cell.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Yes. So, it's exactly what it is. Right. So I just, and their marketing is pretty genius. Like, you get a picture in front of the, like, mugshot wall. It's Instagram gold. It is. I hate to say it because it's really, but it's so authentic.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Because like you said, everyone is, we're not going to say X-Con. Formerly incarcerated individuals is politically correct. term. I feel like I learned so much from doing the show. Is it one of those things that only you can say ex-con, we can't? Like, I can say Jew. Everything we say Jewish ashes, like, is that insulting people? Like, it's just a religion.
Starting point is 00:17:17 It's not a slur. Well, I said Jewish school the other day, and someone was like, it's yes, she's a bitch. I was like, yo, I'm Jewish. Like, I can, I could say. Well, a Jew has the little bite to it. You know what I mean? The way you just said it, where you went up six octaves at the end of the word. Octaves got a little high there.
Starting point is 00:17:36 I also, before we started recording, like people can... We're not recording this. No, no, I said before we started recording, my favorite thing is when people just assume Ashley's Jewish, Derek was like, you're Jewish, right? You're Jewish, right? I definitely thought you were Jewish. I take it as a compliment.
Starting point is 00:17:54 We met, oh, this was a, Derek, you were there. We were watching football with Alexis, and that guy that lives in the fancy building in the East Village, the one we want to live in, Raina. Some rich dude. When we buy an apartment together? Yeah, some very rich dude, because I know he is, because he can live there.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And he was like, yeah, you're Jewish, right? And I was like, no. And I was like, why do you think that is because of my face? And he was like, no, you just seem really smart and successful. I have so many funny stories about that. Okay, so back to your life. Okay. My life, I'm 37 now.
Starting point is 00:18:24 So it has changed drastically these past three and a half, four years. I'd been in and out of the system from 12 years old to 34 years old. my grandmother took care of me and I was young for the most part she passed away kind of went off the deep end got involved in drugs which led to crime which led to all kinds of craziness i've been in probably 40 different institutions in the state of new york alone like jails hospitals attention centers you know rehabs all kinds of things um but fitness is what turned my life around did you get into fitness while you were And why you were...
Starting point is 00:19:05 See, most dudes will, like, come out of jail, like, in shape. I didn't. I came out, like, 230 pounds. Wait, hold on. Did you go in 230 or you gained weight in jail? No, I went in, like, 140, because I was, like... You gained weight in jail? Because I was, like, shooting heroin, like crazy.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Oh, gotcha. It was a heroin. You just had to, like, come back to eating more and wall. I looked like a European rock star when I went in. Oh, you sound hot back then. Yeah. Oh, my God. That heroin chic.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Sexy. I had some picks. Actually, you didn't look too bad at some point. I will DM me the photos later. Stop right now. Other people other than this, like I don't have time. I'm always just with you or at home alone.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I have to fuck our guests. Wait, do you, do you fuck them like right after the show? He's like, how does this go? And what did I get myself into? What's the casting process like? I'm going to freshen up a little bit. Like, I've had things happen where like somebody starts texting me after the show, thanking me for hiding them on, and then it spirals.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Yeah. Some other shit. Okay, this is very fascinating. Also, you know I love a weight loss story. Oh, yeah. Back to that. Also, what is the food like? In jail?
Starting point is 00:20:17 So I'm a big food person, so I got to know about the food. The thing is that you need to either have people sending you, like, putting some money on your books from the outside. Yeah. Or you got to have some kind of hustle inside because the food there just really isn't. You can't. Me personally, like the only time I would almost cry when I was incarcerated was when I was the food. Oh, so I brought up a really pleasant memory for you. I would not be eating this shit
Starting point is 00:20:41 if I was out there. Yeah. Great. Well, I'm sorry. I brought that up. No, no, it's fine. I'm totally cool with it. So, but I've got, so you left, you didn't get in. I had some money the last time I was in. I fucking loved Cheetos. I haven't eaten a Cheetos since I got out of jail. I just want let everybody know that. Because I... Like, you can't? Like, the memories? I just got so... It was gross. Like, I had
Starting point is 00:21:02 boobs and a gut, and like... This is so crazy. You're just eating shitty. I would saw, they had me on this drug called Seraquil, which is like a tranquilizer and, like, helps you sleep. Okay. But she would, like, black out on it and eat all your food. So I'd, like, wake up in the middle of night in my cell and there'd be, like, seven Cheeto, like, empty Cheeto bags. I'd be like, who the fuck came in here and ain't my shit? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Who's fucking with me? Same thing happens to me, except I have no excuse. And they'd be like, shut the fuck up. You ate that shit. Okay. So, you got out of jail. and you were like, this sucks, I should have probably got. So I basically had nowhere to go.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Nobody, I had fucked up so bad that nobody wanted me. Is it like a force gun thing? Like you just started running? You were like, I just started running. No, because I even fucked, almost fucked that up in the beginning. Okay. So, like, I get into this halfway house, like, and I picked a spot in Newburgh, New York, which is just like, they're like, where you want to go?
Starting point is 00:22:01 And I'm like, oh, I want to go here. Because I just, I knew where all the drugs were there. Right. So I already had in my mind that, like, you know, I'm getting fucked up when I get out. So, like, I got into the halfway house. I, like, made some fake checks and shit, like, robbed some people. I don't know if that's all right to say. And do you want?
Starting point is 00:22:18 I mean, there's no secret that you did some things. Yeah. And I started getting high. So they kicked me out of the halfway house. I'm, like, staying in this shelter. This woman was my counselor at this outpatient was like, you've been, this is fucking you up. Like you, and I'm also a veteran. She's like, you know, you're a veteran, you have drug issues.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I know a place, you know, on 4th, 3rd and 8th that you should go to that, you know, you could probably get your life, like, back together. So I go. So I had a buddy in there that was part of this running team, this nonprofit organization that comes around to different, they have like five teams throughout the city. And the facility I was in was one of their, the teams they had. So he's like, a bunch of people came in. one day.
Starting point is 00:23:05 They're like, you know, and they're running gear. They're like, you know, all happy. I'm like, what the fuck of these? You know, what's everybody so happy about? And I'm like, what's, what you guys do? And they're like, oh, we just ran 10 miles. I'm like, you like, you walk some, right? They're like, no, we like ran 10 miles.
Starting point is 00:23:21 I'm like, what the fuck? Like on purpose? Everybody's, like, all happy. Nobody was chasing you? It totally threw me for, because I ran before, you know, but like three miles, four miles, five miles, like, ten miles, like, just didn't register. He registered to me. So my buddy, Rob, he's like, dude, you should like, run with us.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And I'm like, all right. He's like, you get new sneakers. And that was like the selling point for me because I had like nothing at that time. Yeah. So we go out to meet these people every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. And everybody wanted to hug me. So I'm like, uh, like not chill. Like don't.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Like everybody's all happy. And I'm like, in my head, I'm like, all right, what's the catch here? Right. Because who the fuck would wake up at like 4.30 in the morning, catch a train, come over here to run with people like me for an hour. This makes absolutely no sense. I'm thinking everybody's a paid employee, so I'm like, all right, so they're getting money for it. So that's why.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And then I found out the people who were running with us were volunteers. And I'm like, all right, I'm crazy. But these people are really fucked up. Because this makes absolutely no sense to me. Like, what is, like, does it make them feel better? better that they're running with someone who's just totally fucked their life up and they're like, hey, things ain't so bad for me. Like, you know, this guy's really fucked up.
Starting point is 00:24:40 And I ended up getting in trouble again. And those people were really nice to me and I was a fucking dick to them. Anyway, I had to lead the facility to turn myself in for something I actually didn't do. And while I was sitting in jail for those six days, I'm like, what am I got? Because by this point, I had like almost 10 months clean. And I'm like, I should not be here. I should not be sitting in a cell anymore. As I've heard stories like these old times
Starting point is 00:25:07 talk about going to jail clean. Like, there's no withdrawal or anything this time. It's just me with like my feelings. Yeah. And like just looking back at this mess I had made in my life, with nobody to blame but me. Right. Like some of the stuff that happened to me when I was younger,
Starting point is 00:25:22 like I had no control of it. There came a point where I knew the difference between right and wrong. And I decided to keep doing the wrong things. So I was like, oh, those volunteer people were really, really, really nice to me. And if I get the chance to, like, run with them again, I'm going to do, like, I'm going to do really well. And, you know, at this point in my head, you know, in my head,
Starting point is 00:25:43 I'm like, you know, I usually when I'm mean to people, they're like not going to, like, set me back. Like, the bridge is burned. But when I, when I was released and I went back to the facility, they, like, greeted me with open arms. And, uh, I'm probably weighing, like, around 225, 226 at that point. So I started running Monday, Wednesdays, and Fridays. And I became very close with some of the people I was running with. Like, they didn't care about what I had done. They cared about, like, what I was doing and where I wanted to go in life.
Starting point is 00:26:15 And so then, like, you ran and started to do marathons and all these things and just kind of fell into con body over the years? With the organization, they asked me to be their keynote sports. speaker at their gala. So they're like, going to know, all these people are going to be here from all these different corporations. So I went up, I told my story. Had you ever done any public speaking before? Not like that. And I'm from 800 people. Right. You debuted your public speaking in front of 800 people. I'm like out of the facility. I was working at a homeless shelter in Brooklyn as a residential aid. Okay. So like I didn't really have much money, but I spent $1,000 on a tuxedo. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Yeah. When you look good, you feel good. Yeah, no, look good, feel good is a big thing. Absolutely. For sure. Absolutely. So I went up there, told my story, and Koss, Marte, the founder of Kambati, like, one of my friends, Marni from Run Street was like, you know, Koss is going to be in the audience, you know, maybe you get to talk to him. So, like, I read about who he was in magazines.
Starting point is 00:27:16 I'm like, you know, this is something I could be super down with. I give the speech. All these people are running up to me. They're like, we want you to come work for us. you just got to get your Series 7. I think that's what it's called. Series 7 is for a count, though. Yeah, I'm like, this is the only suit I own,
Starting point is 00:27:31 and it's a fucking tuxedo. So, you're just going to wrong to work every day at a tux? I'm like waiting for costs, and he doesn't come talk to me. And I'm like, motherfucker. Fuck this guy. So this is funny. Like, at the end of the night, after the gal is over, I head back to Brooklyn in my tuxedo,
Starting point is 00:27:49 and I go work at the shelter, like. In your tux? cleaning the, like, I took my jacket off, like, cleaning, like, making sure the boilers are good. Yeah. You know, I would fix things. I would make sure that, you know, the, um, everything was in working order for all the clients. Yeah. So I get an email, like, midnight. That cost would like to meet with me. So I was like, boom. Yeah. I went and met him at the studio on, on, on a broom and Eldridge, and he's like, nice to meet you. You know, how, you know how the studio looks, you know, looks like,
Starting point is 00:28:17 he's like, welcome back to prison. Are you triggered? And I didn't like it at first. I'm going to be honest with it. It kind of freaked me out. Right. And he's like, I want you to come work for me. He's like, I want you to be our run coach. So, that was super big. Okay, so I love where you were going with this and just about like turning your life around
Starting point is 00:28:36 and sort of like dealing with all these things facing your demons. But we always say this is the dating a relationship show. Yeah. I know you had a relationship through this entire time. Basically the whole time. So like what was that like trying to manage somebody else while like you have so much internally to manage.
Starting point is 00:28:53 I mean, she was more like managing me. For sure. Because I was just doing whatever I wanted. I never cheated on her or anything like that. But I mean, but I was definitely betraying. Oh, she asked me that so many times. Like, did you fool around with a guy? Like, who the fuck are you talking to?
Starting point is 00:29:10 I think I could date a guy that's in prison because at least I know where he is. Like I know he's not. Well, that was a big thing too. When I would get locked up, she'd be like, oh, at least I know where you are. Because that was my thing. I was to disappear. Like, I was a magician. and I would disappear for days, weeks.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Right. You know? But I wasn't fucking anybody else. Yeah. I want to make that clear. He's getting, like, arrested. Yeah. But you said something interesting, which is that, when we were talking before, which is
Starting point is 00:29:34 that, you know, you had this relationship, but, like, you didn't realize you could have such a deep emotional connection with somebody intimately that was, like, outside of sex also. So, you didn't build that. So, yeah, when I can't really say anything bad about her, she should have left me, like, six months after she met me. So you guys were together? What, how total of what? Almost 10 years. Almost 10 years. We were together. And she definitely should have left me right after we had our daughter. But she tried to stick it through. So when she actually left me, I was not in a good place because I'm still like, I'm living in a program, like going to court to
Starting point is 00:30:09 see if I'm actually, you know, going to go to jail again for a little while. I'm out of shape. I look like shit. So it's like, well, nobody. will ever want me. Right, like I'm worthless. Ever again. Yeah. So after I get into running and everything, I have these pounds drop.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Now I'm like a trainer at Combody. Like, you know, I got a cool haircut. I'm tone. I got some money. You know, I got some nice clothes. Like, then all of a sudden it was like, you know, women were speaking to me. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:43 And I was so socially awkward at first. I'm like, so, boy, you want to, like, come back to, you want to, like, come with me to my house, or am I going to your house? Just assume you're fucking? Yeah, and, like, sometimes it happened. And then other times, you know, it was like, I just made it super, super awkward. So this is your first, like, foray into dating outside of a 10-year relationship. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:07 So, you've, like, never had to do this before. Yeah. Wait, so did you try to get her back? Did you ever try to get her back? No, once she, she, she, that was it. It was a rap. was, you know. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:19 So we do want to get into this. Like, do you have women that you feel like are trying to, like, think you're, like, a novelty where they're, like, have been going to get? Absolutely. I call it, they go slumming. It's like, let me. Like, make my dad mad? You know, if it ever comes down to it, some of them have boyfriends and stuff, too. Well, even like, okay, so there's this.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I don't know if it's a novelty, like, he is. But also, you're a trainer. So, I mean, I think a lot of girls, too, regardless of whether you've been prison or not. They like have a thing for their trainer. So, I mean, are you getting like DM slides? I, you know, I get DMs and I'm not, not, not, and I want to, not from my clients, but from like people like, I want people to start following me. You know, some people know me too from the past. You're like, wow, you're looking really, like, you look really, really good. If I, I stopped really, I stopped posting my workout videos because I would get like 20 DMs in the middle of the night. It's too Thursday.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Yeah, it's like, I'm like, they were definitely out drinking or something. They were doing something. And then I got answer back and not get any answer. Right. They're like, oh my God, I was drunk when I sent that. Wait, I have a question. Sure. Okay, so you know how I know about Con Body. Oh my God, right.
Starting point is 00:32:26 You have some story I don't know about it. It's not like a crazy story. I mean, I just clearly don't know about it because I work out because I don't work out. I know about it because it was on Real Housewives. Uh-huh. It was. I refuse to do that show. But it was on it?
Starting point is 00:32:41 Real shit. Yeah, so last season, they, like, all the people, Real House was in New York did an exercise there. They did a class. Yeah, they did a class. Did Cost teach it? I don't think that's that. I think that it's cool that they promoted this on the show.
Starting point is 00:32:55 It's very cool. Did you guys get like a boost? Yes. Right after that? We sure did. And then did you get like an uptick and like girls sliding into your DMs after that? It's been pretty like I'll get a lull sometimes but it's pretty constant. The activity is constant.
Starting point is 00:33:11 And it kind of like I thought like for a little bit I was like oh yeah, you know, Derek, you're looking good. But now, things have changed a little bit now, like my hair's thin and a little bit more. I'm like, I don't really think I'm that handsome of a dude, you know? And aside from all the prison and stuff, like, and the rehabs and all that, like, I feel like I'm a pretty basic dude. Like, if I didn't talk about my past... You wouldn't be like, that guy's been to prison.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Like, I wouldn't... I don't think I get as much action either. I'm going to be honest. A bad boy thing. Yeah. So what is your... What's your status right now? Are you kind of like, would you like to find somebody?
Starting point is 00:33:45 Not ready to mingle. Okay. I like that. Okay. And so I'm very curious because, you know, for a long time, when we were our third or fourth episode, we did an episode about drinking and, like, could you date somebody who had, like,
Starting point is 00:33:56 different party styles as you? And one of the things that we talked about, I said that, like, I don't know that I could personally date somebody that's sober because I don't think they'd want to date me. Because, I mean, I'm not out here, like, I'm not drinking and falling down the street, but I do go out and party? And so, like, do you have a hard time dating people like that?
Starting point is 00:34:12 The thing, I waited, like, two years. until I actually started going out. Socializing? Well, socializing where alcohol was being searched. So you really steered clear for a couple years. I wanted to make sure I was strong enough. But I always said in my head, listen, like, you're not going to just be this recluse that just stays inside. Like if your friends go out, they invite you out, you need to be social.
Starting point is 00:34:36 If they're drinking, then they're drinking. That's just what it is. So if you, let's say you meet a girl, this is a hypothetical situation, and she doesn't know anything about your past. are you hesitant to bring up your past or does it come up pretty early? You know, if I'm interested, if I'm attracted, I'll talk to a woman and I won't really get like that vibe back.
Starting point is 00:34:54 But after she, like, finds out who I am and follows me on Instagram, she's like, hey, what's up. And the thing is, is, like, I wonder what they think. I wonder if they think, like, I fuck like a champ or something like that. I wonder too. I definitely don't. I think it's this innate thing of this, like, bad boy, but you've also totally recovered.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Like, women aren't seeking out people that are currently in prison. I know that's because you know it's been, people I've been around, like, who saw me, like, at my worst and then saw me rise. Yeah. And they're, like, you know, they got attracted to me. And I could totally see why. Yeah. And I'm not saying just for me, I'm just saying being around that is kind of like, you know, people,
Starting point is 00:35:28 sometimes women are attracted to drive. Well, I also think, like, a comeback story can be very attractive. And somebody who, like, has been through so much shit and, like, has one day was like, I don't want to do this anymore. And four years you've been sober and four years you've, like, turned your life around. Like, that's so attractive. And, like, I'll pick. somebody who has had strife in their life over somebody who has just been on easy street their
Starting point is 00:35:48 entire life. Like, I think it makes you more dynamic. I think it makes you empathetic. I think it makes you more interesting. You've just... You're on your toes a little bit more. Yeah. I mean, I just, I've never been attracted to anybody that just, like, grew up with a ton of money and never had a problem in their life and everything worked out for them. And like, those just, they're not my people. I mean, that's probably the kind of guy you want to get hitched up with, though. I'll be honest. I mean, I'm not saying I'm seeking out ex-cons either. I'm just saying, like, somewhere in between. And everybody's different So some guys just do a couple years
Starting point is 00:36:17 You know they were in like serious relationship before They can come out and like hit the ground running And be like okay in a relationship You got some guys that did super hard time There's probably going to be issues And with dating those guys And then you got a dude like me It was just like a fuck up
Starting point is 00:36:34 Like I don't feel the need to like Bang every woman I meet Like that's not Like some of my friends will make fun of me for To like dude you know you're fucking this package up. You could, you know, you could bang this chick. I'm like, ah, you know, I just, I'm kind of just enjoying being friends, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:49 for what I'm saying. Well, and I wanted to ask you this. I feel like we've talked to this before, like, what you've been through and being in and out of jail in the system and just has it affected how you view relationships in general, like with people, like, not romantically, but people, like, did you feel like people were? Intimacy with dudes. Like, to me when I was young, intimacy meant, like, sex. Like, that's what I thought it meant.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Like, I guess I didn't pay attention, like, when they told it. in school or I didn't read the definition the right way. But it's like, you're being intimate, you're fucking, that's it. Right. That's what that word meant. Yeah. You know, you have a physical relationship. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:23 And then, you know, after doing all this work on myself and, you know, going to all these groups and, like, therapy and stuff like that, I learned that, like, intimacy is, like, emotional. Right. When someone was like, oh, you know, you can have intimate relationship with God, I'm like, er, what do you mean? And then I, and then I learned you can, you know? Like some of these guys are like my brothers now.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Right. It was such a hard line for me to figure out in the beginning with women because it's like she's your friend. She's your friend. She cares about you. Sex is going to fuck this up. Could you have sex with her? Probably.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Should you? No. So that, you know. You just seem like a good friend. I mean, from what I know about you just seem like you show up and you like value these relationships. And like, do you feel like that's changed more than it used to? Yeah, relationships do mean a lot to me now.
Starting point is 00:38:15 But the relationship that, I feel like I sound so corny when I say this, the relationship that means the most of me is the relationship I have of myself. Yeah. But yeah. Doesn't that sound so lame? No. I'm super lame. I mean, you can mock it, but it doesn't sound lame.
Starting point is 00:38:30 It's not. I mean, you're the only person that's really going to hold you accountable. I mean, haven't you heard Ariana Grande's new song? No. She, like, talks all about her exes. And then she's like, Ashley picks these things. she doesn't stop talking about for a week. Everybody's obsessed with it.
Starting point is 00:38:43 It was a star is born for a while. And everybody still appreciates that. I fell asleep during a star is born. Oh, God. Not Ashley. Only because I ran a half. I got Paul to laugh. Paul.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Okay, guys, so our sound guy who like, the sound is so good because of Paul at our studio, entercom studios, Paul doesn't really laugh at anything. And he's my gauge if I'm being funny or not. Got him. Got him. And it wasn't, it was a nice, easy.
Starting point is 00:39:10 joke too. Yeah, I won't with my home girl. We went to watch it. I passed the fuck out. But I had ran a half marathon during the day. You're physically very tired. You're fine. Anyway, Ariana Grande, now she's in a relationship with herself. That's, you know, her boyfriend, she broke up with Mac Miller. You know, rest in peace, Mac Miller. You know, I can empathize with what he was going through as far as the drug addiction.
Starting point is 00:39:34 When I was young, people used to tell me, like, oh, you have so much talent, this, that, and everything, and you just, you don't see it. And, you know, that guy had so much talent, and he still felt like there was a hole in him that he couldn't fill unless he filled through with drugs. So, definitely not on the same level as him, but I can empathize with that. Right. So he dies, and then she goes right with Pete Davidson.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Yeah. So she was going through some stuff. You know, so she needs to be by herself. She's been through a lot. I mean, let's not forget, like, the shooting. Yeah. So she's at her age, like, I'm not this huge eriana fan, but all the things. I'm just like, I kind of have some mad respect for her.
Starting point is 00:40:10 I don't know. I just, you know what I like, you know my segue to tie this all together is like with Ariana and with you is like we get a lot of emails from people being like, can I turn this around? Can I like change my life at some point? I hate what's going on in my life and I like Can you change your life? Yes, you can.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Should you date to Xcon? No. Should you date me? No. I'm going to be real. No. You don't recommend it? I mean, no. I can't, you know what? I can't speak for all ex-cons. I can speak for myself. Right. Do you think you're undidatable?
Starting point is 00:40:40 I think... Or do you think you're a work in progress? I'm a work in progress. I got to be real because... That's good. The worst thing you can do is lie about it. It took me 20 years to walk into the woods. And, you know, I'm walking out.
Starting point is 00:40:52 It may take me, you know, five years to get out, you know? But it took me that long to get in. So this is why, like, I'm so against, like, just hooking up with people. Because it creates... The feelings get... And see, this is where it's going to make me sound cold, because this has happened to me with about... five different women to where, you know, we would have sex, we'd hook up, and they'd really,
Starting point is 00:41:17 really, really, really like me after that. Yeah. And it would scare the shit out of me. And you're like, and for that reason, I'm out. Yeah, you know, and I couldn't. But I think you saw what you did to your ex and you don't want to necessarily do to somebody. That is true, too. I don't want to hurt anybody.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Like, my, when I wait, a long time ago when I woke up in the morning, sometimes I had a goal to hurt somebody during the day. Yeah. Now it's not like that at all. Like, I don't want to hurt anybody. anybody. People do get hurt. I get hurt. I mean, I've had it turned around on me. Well, I've done to women.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Like, I get ghosted and shut down. And I'd say if I ever get the chance to have sex with you, I'm gonna, and then not call you back. I just, I can see. Is that fucked up? I think that I always say the thing that makes you the bad guy is not admitting that you're like that, you know, it's trying to be a different, like, you know who are. You can sleep with people and not talk to them again. You can sleep with people and not date
Starting point is 00:42:05 them, but, like, being honest about that is what makes you better. I mean, I knew her for like two years. And I did like her. I was attracted to her. So we go to lunch, we get like this, I forget what the dish is called. It's a Cuban dish, a seafood dish. Paella. We had it for two.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Mokeka. Paella. No, this is like a romantic lunch now. Mokeka is Ecuadorian? I totally fucked up. Okay. Because now we're eating out of the same plate. Ashley and I do that all the time.
Starting point is 00:42:30 We're not dating. Are you like on the same side? And she's like, no. Fuck that. Oh, I'm the same side. So we get done eating like and my foot was like, brushing her phone. So I'm like limping and she's like
Starting point is 00:42:44 oh my God you're hurt. I don't know I got to come with you. So we end up like having sex. Because your phone was hurt? Well listen. I did not. I did not perform well. Like I don't consider myself.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I'm not going to tell you like I do not have like an overly large penis. Like I don't, I'm not going to lie about it. My nickname amongst my friends is Shmedium D. And the only reason why I know it's not small. The only reason why I know. It's not small because one of my home girls is a bottle opener that's shape like a penis. And she's like, listen, are you bigger than this? And I'm like, yes.
Starting point is 00:43:19 And she's like, you're fine. She's like as long as... We need to make the unbranded bottle openers that are dead. As long as you know how to use it, you're good. Yeah. But this particular day, like, I don't know, like, my foot was hurt. It was like kind of rainy out. I'm like kind of full.
Starting point is 00:43:34 The rain. Blame it on the rain. I'm not like doing well. She's like doing everything. So I'm like, all right, it's pretty bad. probably Nakamana, hang out with me again. She did.
Starting point is 00:43:45 So I'm like... Yeah, that doesn't... That's every most girls have had that, like, first time sexual. But you know what? No one made me feel bad is because, like, as soon as, like, we had the physical intimacy, like, the attraction I had to her
Starting point is 00:43:55 just went away. But it's happened, like, five times. Like, to her, like, oh, I really like her. I'm super shocked to her. She's so cool. We have sex, and I'm like... It's not her fault.
Starting point is 00:44:07 I'm also wondering if... You're not being ready to be in a relationship with somebody. Right. And I also wonder, if it's, I don't know, what if the girl was like, cool dude, see you later, and just acted totally nonchalant, like it didn't rock her world and she still was kind of hard to get on her.
Starting point is 00:44:20 I would probably act like a punk. Then you'd ruin it? You know, that kind of happened one time, so I was doing, like, I'm working out a lot with this one chick, right? And we end up hooking up, and I really liked her. And then, like, you know, after a third or four time, like, the sex was decent. And she's like, you know, we're just having fun, you know that, right?
Starting point is 00:44:41 And I was like, okay. Oh, wow. She really big-legged you. Broken heart. Oh. Wait, I have a question. Go ahead. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:48 What was it like starting to have sex? I sound like I'm, it's a serious question. When you had to start having sex sober, was that really weird? It was so weird because I'm super sensitive to everything. Like your penis is sensitive? My penis is sensitive? The shmedium day. My small penis.
Starting point is 00:45:04 My small penis. Medium, Rayna. Jesus. It's not small. You got a bottle opener. I'm really small. So like, I don't need a huge day. Some small chicks do need a huge day.
Starting point is 00:45:13 It depends on the length of your vaginal cavity. Paul laughed tallies at two. I just want to let everybody know. No, he kind of giggled before when you were talking about your phone day. Paul laugh tallies at three. Two and a half. Two and a half. Everything is super sensitive.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Like the first time I was having sex sober. Okay. It was the summer. You're so like poetic. It was the summer? It was the summer. I can smell the cherry blossoms. Cool breeze coming in off the Atlantic Ocean.
Starting point is 00:45:40 So it was more. more like June. It wasn't cool, actually. It was hot as fuck. We had the AC on. July, July, August. Yeah. The AC blew in through the window.
Starting point is 00:45:47 So I'm like, I'm having sex. And to me, I'm not doing well. Well, you're probably in your head. I'm in my head like crazy. I can't believe you could even keep it up. For real. It was hard. I would have a hard.
Starting point is 00:45:56 It wasn't hard. I'm like, I'm like semi wet noodle in it. You know what I mean? Like, it's not. I'm not hard. I'm not there. Right. I'm always like, oh, you got to get me there.
Starting point is 00:46:04 So she's like, I want to, you know, change. change, we're going to come behind me. And I was sweating a little bit, and the AC hit me in my back. And, like, the chill made me go completely soft. What? Like, in her. And she's like, what is wrong? And I'm like, oh, the AC hit me back.
Starting point is 00:46:21 She's like, this is, we can't do this. I was so fucking embarrassed. I didn't have sex again for, like, months. Well, I would be like, you're obviously not for me if you don't get turned on by air conditioning, like I do. Because, like, the air conditioning is my number one turn on. I thought you were going to say you got rock hard from the, No, it made me cold.
Starting point is 00:46:39 I went completely limp. It, like, went back, my penis went back inside me. I was like, give me out of here. Oh, yeah. Do you look back on your old self and, like, is it hard to believe that was you? Like, do you feel like a different person? I see what you see. There is a lot of things like I would never be able to do.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Like, I can never curse out an old lady now or be disrespectful or not hold the door. You know, my mother told me some good things when I was younger. Like, that's the guy I was meant to be my whole life. And I do, I think people do change and evolve. And what were you going to say? I was going to say to wrap this up, like, you do some motivational speaking. Like, if you, and you can take a second to think about this, but, like, if you want somebody to take something away from, like, your life or this podcast
Starting point is 00:47:21 or what you've been talking about, like, is there something, like a message that you feel like you want people to, like, take away from, like, what you've been through? This sounds cliche, but it really never is too late to change your life. And I know especially when it comes to drugs and then being in and out of the system, that revolving door, a lot of people, so many things happen where like doors will just get slammed in your face and you're like, what is the sense of doing this?
Starting point is 00:47:47 Like some people, for a big part of my life, it was like, you know, some people are just meant to be bad. Some people are just meant to be in and out of jail. Some people are just meant to be on drugs. Some people are meant to die overdoses. And that is who I am. and that's not who I am. That's not who any of us are.
Starting point is 00:48:07 We deserve better lives, and you deserve a better life. And it doesn't matter what you did, you know, if you're trying to become a better person. And anybody who stands in the way of you becoming a better person is not worth your time, and you need to move past them and find people that care about you and where you're going. You'll find your people.
Starting point is 00:48:28 It'll happen. Yeah. That's a really beautiful moment. message. Now all our listeners are crying. I know. I feel like I'm going to cry. I'm going to cry. Get your tape decks ready and the tissues. Well, and sometimes people just have, like, I dated a guy that his dad was an addict and alcoholic. And, like, I think his dad instilled in him, like, you're worthless. You'll never amount to anything. You're going to be just like me. And I think it was, that was on a loop his whole life. And I think
Starting point is 00:48:50 it was so hard to overcome this, like, I've been told since I was a kid that I'm just going to be a fuck up and I'm never going to amount to anything. Like, it's ingrained in your brain almost. And I think that's just... But people who, who, who are, who, would say things like that to me, who would keep bringing things up from the past. I got to a point where I got strong enough where I was able to say, listen, I love you, if I did love them. I love you. I am truly and sincerely sorry for everything that happened in the past, but if you keep bringing it up, I will never speak to you ever again, and I will not lose a wink of sleep of it overnight. I think that's fair. And sometimes that's how you need to speak to
Starting point is 00:49:25 people in their own language, if they're going to be, like, super pushy with you, then, you know, you need to set a healthy boundary and be like, all right, you're going to give me ultimatums, you're going to say, I'm never going to be this, or you're going to keep pushing what I did on me. All right, so this is it. I love you. I won't talk to you anymore. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:41 And I think sometimes it's sometimes hard for people to say that to their family, but sometimes they're shitty family members. My own mother. Right. Yeah. Absolutely. And so they're allowed to take a stand at some point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:51 And just not, just because their family and blood doesn't always mean. Just so how you, everyone knows how my relationship. With my family is I'm leaving from Mexico on Thanksgiving. With all my friends. They're all going to Mexico. My mom and dad love me. They just got a place to South Carolina. I just want to say, you know, thank you for everything you've done for me.
Starting point is 00:50:09 They really instilled like a hard work ethic. Neither one of them went to college. They've really done real well with themselves since my brother and me have gotten out of their lives. So congratulations to them. To them in South Carolina. And I'm sure I'll see you around Christmas. I feel very inspired. I've never shared this story on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:50:27 I don't think I've ever told you. What are you going to do? You're going to tell a story? I'm going to tell you a story. Okay. Oh, my heart's beating. I just never thought there would be any reason to tell the story. But when I was like 12 years old, my dad went to jail for like a long period of time.
Starting point is 00:50:40 What? It was nothing crazy. I mean, he went through like a really hard time and he was really depressed and he wasn't working and he didn't pay my mom child support for years and years. And she finally had to take him to court. And, I mean, he owed her just so much money. And he was just being such a piece of show. shit, he wouldn't pay her. And, you know, I come from, like, my parents are educated. They've
Starting point is 00:51:00 master's degrees. And I grew up with a lot of money. And I mean, my dad just went through a hard time. And that, that happened. And it was terrible for me and it was humiliating. And, you know, I certainly didn't tell anybody for a long time. And he went to jail for about a year and a half and he was in a half-boy house. For child support. Yeah, for child support payments. That is a rough thing to go to jail for it. There's no good time. There's really no good time. When your daughter's 12, it's a really bad time. And I didn't know how to tell my parents, like my friends. where my dad was, and they released him,
Starting point is 00:51:27 and he was in a halfway house for a while, because they'll let you out to work so that you can pay your debts back to your wife. And that was in Pennsylvania, which is a little more strict with those things, I believe, yeah. And, you know, for a long time, I blamed my mom for allowing this to happen because I thought that if she had told the court system
Starting point is 00:51:42 that I didn't want my father to be taken away from me, that she could have stopped it. I didn't really blame him for a long time, but obviously, you know, he created this own prison. Absolutely. But, you know, he got out of jail, and he got a great job, and he created his own business, and he recreated his own business,
Starting point is 00:51:55 life and he did that in his mid-40s. And we have a great relationship. I'm not mad at him. I'm not mad at my mom. And I think that, like, there was no reason for me to really talk about this in the show. I just think you've been so open. So I wanted to share that story with you. But my dad's my best friend.
Starting point is 00:52:10 He's the best fucking person. He had a choice when he got out. And I'm sure he made the decision while he was in, like, I'm really going to straighten my life out. But he could have got stuck in that. He could have came out and been like, oh, I'm so far behind. What's the sense? Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:23 But, you know, I guess there's no reason to ever share this. but, you know, I'm not embarrassed of it, and I don't think that he's embarrassed of it. It's just not something that comes up a lot, but, like, he turned his life around, and that dude is my best friend and my biggest hero, and there's never, anybody who's been more proud of me, and you don't have to continue that life just because you have that life, you know?
Starting point is 00:52:41 I mean, I turn my life around. Yes, your DUI story is exactly the same. But anyways, we're going to lighten this shit up. Yeah. We design a game around every guest since you're a man. We asked women to submit. But am I, though? You seem like a...
Starting point is 00:52:56 Only on the outside. Am I really a man? I was having sex in the summertime. The AC unit blew up my back. I lost my boner completely. I thought he was going to be like, I blew my load. No, I didn't blow anything that night.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Red light green light. Yeah, so we're going to play red light green light, which is like people just submitted things that girls do, and you're going to say... Red light? Fuck no. Green light. This is fine.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Sure, let's go. Or you can yellow light it. All right. Yes, you're like, red light, you're like, I'd rather go back to prison. Slow down at the yellow light. Okay. A girl has matching tattoos with her ex-boyfriend. Ugh.
Starting point is 00:53:36 You hate it. Hold on. It's that timeout. What are they? What's the tattoo? Green light, red light. Red light, green light, or yellow light, if you're like, eh. Yeah, what's the tattoo?
Starting point is 00:53:47 It is. Oh, I don't know. Like, it's a fountain. You're dating her? I'm dating her. They're dating her. It's like Pura Vita. Her and her ex.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Fucking red light. Okay. She's out. Yeah. That's just fucking stupid. No, do it. Okay. Are you found some more stuff?
Starting point is 00:54:05 She talks to her girlfriend's about your dick's eyes. We just talked about your dick's eyes. That's fine. That's fine. Green light. Green light. Okay. She refuses to take her socks off when you guys have sex.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Have I seen her feet before? Oh, interesting. Yes, you've seen her feet before. Yeah, that's fine. Okay, because that's me. I'm not trying to fuck you, but... I would definitely spend half the time we were having sex trying to take him off, though. I was with a guy the other night, like late night on a couch, and he was like,
Starting point is 00:54:36 it was like three in the morning. He was like, why do you still have your socks on? Do you like socks? You did. I'll have sex sometimes and I won't take my boxers off. You just put your dick through the hole? No, you don't. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Derek, why? I don't know. Oh, my God. It's happened many times, though. Many times. There go all the DM slides you were going to get. Paul, Paul, Paul, too. Paul.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Okay, I need to pull another print. Leah is also in the studio that she's our intern. What if a guy only had sex with his boxers on? She's out. I cannot. This is red light for her. I can't. I haven't done it in a while, but I have a funny one.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Okay, wait. You can hit me with another one. Okay. Oh, God. She talks like a baby. When? Yeah, when. During sex?
Starting point is 00:55:32 Yes. Red light. Same. For sure. Fucking O-U-T. Okay. Talks about poop on a first date. Oh.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Like her pooping habits. I guess it would depend on the vibe. Yeah. If I'd shared anything with her. I mean, it doesn't. Okay, I got it. Ready? She comes back from the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Your first day, you guys, go to dinner. And she's like, gosh, took the most massive dump. I mean, that's kind of funny. a way. You know? Yeah. I mean. I mean, to me it would depend like what your vibe was like.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Yeah. Like somebody that comes back from bathroom at first date and announces what their shit was like, that kind of permeates into everything else in their life. Like, what else they're going to be so open about? Would you ever do that? You wouldn't do that. No, and I love, nobody loves talking about poop more than may. I wake up every morning.
Starting point is 00:56:17 I text like four people. I'll let, oh, you've no idea, like, how big of a poop I just took. Well, the people I hang out with now, especially like, since I'm, like, more towards, like, a plant-based. diet. We talk about pooping quite a bit. Right. Yeah. So it's not like a big deal.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Right. Yeah. At a first date, I couldn't bring it up. Okay. Doesn't work out at all. Doesn't run. Doesn't do anything. That green light, I'm fine with that.
Starting point is 00:56:40 You are. All right. Absolutely. Okay. Okay. A girl that has a ton of guy friends. She's like, I'm not a girl's girl. I'm a guy's girl.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Most of her friends are dudes. I would probably greenlight it at first, and then eventually red light it. Actually, that's a very honest answer. I can't handle this shit. Them or me. Oh, God, this is so crazy. Somebody submitted this.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Let it. Shoot, I want to hear it. Have a good one too. Has admittedly made out with a family member of their... Fucking red light. That's a great story, though. Oh, I wonder what happened to this girl. If you submitted this question, DM us,
Starting point is 00:57:18 explained us which family member it was, and are you the person that made out of it? She's like, I'm asking for a friend. She made out with her cousin. Me and Cousin Bobby did everything. Also, look, if you made, look, if you, girls, if you hooked up with Cousin Bobby, just never talk about it. Take it to the grave. Like maybe you guys play doctor as kids or something.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Just never bring it up. It's okay to lie. We did everything. Okay, Derek. Someone that makes you take a ton of pictures of her until you get the perfect Instagram worthy one. I mean, that's whatever, green light. Do you actually have a con body? He had to take a bunch of me last night, actually, in front of the, like, wall.
Starting point is 00:57:53 You hold up the incarceration. thing, right? In front of the wall? Say, Com Body Correctional Facility hashtag did the time. I love that. I feel like people
Starting point is 00:58:01 are going to flock to the studio. I hope so. Once you to pee on her. Fucking, no. I'm fucking peeing. Listen, I'm not into that, I'm going to tell you, this one girl used to make me
Starting point is 00:58:13 stand on the fucking fire escape and sneak in the wind through the window and like. Because she had like a rape fantasy? Yeah. And so like, yeah, I'd sneak up on her while she was doing,
Starting point is 00:58:24 dishes and like it happened a few times and like this kid used to be like hey mister what you doing up there and then like I see like a cop drive by I'm like yeah I'm fucking then she asked me to do some heinous shit and I was like yeah like a role plane thing if something happens and you die they'll never believe me right so I'm fucking done hey I know that I'm an ex-convict but she was just having me role play yeah like there's no way you would get out of that no okay were you guys sitting in the apartment and she was like I want you to pretend there or she was like don't ever tell me when this is happening just do it when you feel like it I mean, she, she, like, sucked me in, and then it got, like, a little more intense.
Starting point is 00:59:00 And then I'm like, all right, this is getting fucking wild. So, yeah, what was the quote? What was that? I don't remember. I don't remember. I have a funny one, though. Decorates for Christmas the day after Halloween. I mean, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:59:14 I would definitely make fun of you for it, though. But it's not yet. I would tear your ass up. I'm already watching Hallmark movies and playing Maric Carey on repeat, November 1st. I mean, if you're that into it. it. Right. Everybody's got their shit.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Right. I mean, there's way worse things wrong with me. Happy holidays, everybody. Well, this is an awesome episode. I want people to, thank you for being so open and honest about your life. I hope I didn't kill the vibe.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Nice vibe we got in here now. You're great. Did you have a good time? Absolutely. We had a good time. Yeah. Bye. Tell everybody where they can find you
Starting point is 00:59:45 if they want to sign up for your classes or if they want to slide into your DM or don't. You know, whatever. You can follow me on Instagram. It's just my name, Derek Dresher. D-E-R-E-K, D-R-E-S-C-H-E-R. Definitely follow Com-Body.
Starting point is 00:59:58 And they're verified. Verified. We're verified. Must be nice. Must be nice. You're not verified? No. What?
Starting point is 01:00:07 I mean, one of my counts is verified, but girls got to eat is not verified. We'll get there. I'm really not fucking cool. Anyway, sorry. So we have, at Combody, we have, it's not just me there. You know, we got Koss, Marte, he's our founder. Saltomalik is another trainer. Sarita Wright is another trainer.
Starting point is 01:00:29 We have Latour. We have so many different people to choose from. You could come try all our classes, see which one suits you best. Fitness changed our lives, and we want to help you change your life through fitness also. Where is the studio located? Broome and Eldridge, 294, Broom Street, Lower East Side. Lots of trains right there. Lots of trains.
Starting point is 01:00:47 You got the F, you got the J, you got the M, the B, the D. The A is not too far. Yo, yo, yo. Shout out, Lower East Side, all my Dominicans. I love the class, and it wasn't hard of my feet. You do it barefoot. Barefoot, yeah, I would say... It's cushy.
Starting point is 01:01:04 You guys are padding. It's really, like to put socks on, I feel, because they're scared to show their toes. But I say, just go barefoot, because you really get the feel. And you work out better in bare feet, I believe. I had a great experience. I was nervous at first because some classes hurt my feet, but it's, like, padded enough that it feels great today. Like soar in the right places.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Total body workout. And then, as always, you guys can follow us on Girls' Got to Eat Podcast. You can shop our merch and look for live show tickets at Girls' Gottyapodotcast.com. Holiday sweatshers. I never talked about the movie. Damn. I can't plug it? It's too late.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Can I? You want to plug your movie? Just say it. I mean, it's already doing really good. What's it on? Oh, my God. I don't need to plug the movie. Fuck it.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Leave no trace. Okay. Leave no trace. Okay. Leave no trace starring. Ben Foster and Thomas and McKenzie. I'm only in for two scenes. And Derek Treasher.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Derek Treasher's in it. But this girl gave one of the greatest performances I've ever seen. And it's not just because I'm in the movie. I mean, she killed it. You will cry. I cried twice both times. I saw it. It is a beautiful story about a father and a daughter.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Go check it out. It's probably going to get nominated for Academy Award. Okay. I mean, I'll definitely cry the whole time. That's no big surprise. You will definitely cry at the end. He fell asleep. He fell asleep during the Stars.
Starting point is 01:02:23 No, I'm not getting an academy. I'm fucking going. If it gets nominated, I definitely. Can we be your date? You absolutely. You have that tucks already. I have that tux. Oh, yeah, I just bought a red gown.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Cool. If I can bring dates, yeah. Yeah, we're in. All right, guys, that's it. I hope you guys like the episode. We'll see you next week. Thanks, guys. Have a new week.

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