Girls Gotta Eat - Falling in Love With Your Friend feat. Ali Kolbert

Episode Date: June 24, 2024

We are so excited to welcome back our friend and hilarious comedian Ali Kolbert, this time with her girlfriend Lauren! They are sharing their friends-to-partners love story and how you know when a relationship is The One. We are also discussing ending engagements when you know it's not right (they were both engaged before), the two different types of coming out, setting boundaries when you start dating a friend, showering with your partner (hot or not?), and more. Before Ali and Lauren join us, Rayna reads the birthday messages she got from guys, and Ashley has yet another embarrassing butt update. Enjoy! Follow Ali on instagram @alikolbert and check out her website. Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for tour dates, merchandise, and more. Thank you to our partners this week: Nutrafol: Get $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping at nutrafol.com with code GGE. Gametime: Get $20 off your first purchase when you download the Gametime app and create an account with the code GGE. BetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at betterhelp.com/gge. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Certain things feel much more possible with someone that feels much more right to be with and easier to be with than in the past. This podcast is a Dear Media production. Hi, guys. Hi, guys. Welcome back to another episode of Girls Gotta Eat. Welcome back. We've been following along.

I'm a changed woman. I went to Taylor Swift last night. You're just, if you're listening to this, it's too late. You know you're going to be? Wait, what's the date that you will have gone to the concert? The 23rd. The 23rd. Okay.

Yes. Oh my gosh. I'm excited. What if something happens and you're not a fan anymore and then we got to take this out? Like I see her wardrobe. You know what she wears. She wears the same thing. I think actually it's gotten better on this leg of the tour.

Oh, yeah? I think Europe costumes have been. Euro. Oh, she just was like, they get the better costumes? Costumes. They get their costumes. Costumes. Oh my God.

Raina. It's not. The way you say it. What? You're like, America gets the worst costumes. Costumes. Costumes. Costumes.

Wisconsin. Put you up in a mansion in Wisconsin. I said to you earlier. I was like, remember when T. Payne rhymed mansion with Wisconsin? And you were like, no, I'm not.

And we were like lyrical genius. Never been done before. Truly never been done before. Yeah. And since. I love those memes and tweets about rap lyrics. Like remember when Acon like couldn't think of a respectful way to call a woman and he ended up with sexy bitch?

The whole song is like, trying to think of this. I feel like this is not my algorithm. rhythm. We have different algorithms. Okay, we definitely do. Mine's just like sandwiches. You're in that Taylor Swift algorithm. Yeah. So anyways, I'm in Europe for the next two weeks. I hope you guys enjoy the ride. Okay, yes. Follow along, Raina in Europe. And let's just think a couple more partners. We're going to jump

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What a weekend. Iconic weekend. We've had the last four days. Well, you didn't have my birthday night with me. I had it with another guy. Well, we had your birthday party the day before with everybody. I did spend the night at the house. So I did a lunch the next day.

I got a house in Malibu for, like, everybody to have like a day party on Sunday. It was really fun. It's the first year and a long time. I've not gotten a boat for the birthday. I got a lot of messages from my New York friends about that. But we live on the water. I wanted to look at the water. It was a really wonderful day

And I just felt like people really turned out And it was just really fun And at the end of the night Eight of us just stayed up All night got fucked up Andrew Collin who's been on the show And it's fiance Brenna Who are a house sitting for me now

What do you think they're doing there? As this airs, I'm probably at your house Can you come over while they're house today? I told him we're gonna have a housewarming For them. I think they're gonna stay I don't know That'd be fun to live with them

My old neighbor is moving back to He was away for the summer He's moved back to L.A. And I was like, do you want to be with me? Or I get scared. I get scared. No, it was really so fun. And yes, it was very much like the party started at four.

And then people left at like, I don't know, eight-ish, seven or eight, maybe closer to eight. And then it really turned up, like, there was two groups. It was like, you decide to leave or you decide to stay till midnight. The people would stay till midnight. We did a dance party. We want the ocean. We went to the hot tub. You were like running around in the ocean.

It's all hard stuff laughed ever. Yeah. And then we people brought you gifts because people don't. I like to do gifts. You guys, okay, this is my new thing, and I think you can take it. It's really, it's a good idea. Okay, so Ashley, at the end of the night was like, you have all these gifts? I had a gift table.

People came and brought me like really nice stuff, like bottles of wine, but people gave me nice cards. Cards, yeah. People don't really bring gifts, and that's not a New York thing. New Yorkers were like, I took an Uber here. That's my gift. Yeah. And afraid they're like, you want to bring a gift in the Uber?

No. On the subway, no. Yeah. And here I rented people like a nice house in Malibu. People want me cards about our friendship. It was so beautiful. So there was a whole table full of gifts. It was like late, like 12.

And you were like, you should open your gifts? And I was like, I don't want to open my gifts. And you're like, just do it. I was like, I want you guys to open them and read me the cards about me. And we went around the room and other people opened my gifts and read me cards about me. And I loved it so much. Like I think that this should be the new thing at bridal showers and baby showers. Like, why is the person of honor doing all the work?

Well, some people like to open gifts. Okay. I said I love opening other people's gifts. Were you like that as a kid? Did you like steal your brother and your cousin's gifts? Yes, I just ripped open. I like stole my cousin's gifts. I talked about this before with my sister-in-law's baby shower. And they told people to bring stuff unwrapped, but still people did like big gift baskets and there was still some level of wrapping. And at the end of the night, I mean, it was more of a party. You know, a bunch of people were there. It was co-ed. It was really fine. She was just exhausted. And I was like, I'll open all the gifts. And then she wanted to like catalog them and keep track for thank you notes and stuff. And I sat on the floor surrounded by all the baby stuff. And I sat on the floor surrounded by all the baby stuff. And it was like so fun. And in that moment, I was like, I love opening other people's gifts. It's your birthday now.

I don't know what it is. So now, what if I start now later in life? I open up all Matt's Christmas gifts. I'm 40 years old. I'm like ripping him open. Everyone's like, stop her. What do you do to your nephews? You just start ripping Jay's gifts open.

Yes. Matt's like, can you stop this, please? I'm just like animal. Like, I feel like that's so sad. You just open something and you don't get to have it. That doesn't crush your mind. You're not like, I'm going to open this and it's just not mine. Well, I didn't want that baby.

stuff. Yeah, but for my birthday. It was just alcohol and, like, truck her hats. It was just, like, a fun thing. And then we all kind of, like, impersonated you. It was a fun thing. You guys can borrow it. I like that idea, too. So, baby showers, bridal showers. You should read the bride and the mama. A mama. The cards about it. Yeah, it was a really fun time. So happy birthday to you. I have to tell you, I can't stop laughing about this. I realized this this morning. So I got so many text messages yesterday. I feel very grateful for all the love in my life. And I got such wonderful, like, phone calls and text messages and DMs from everybody.

It was like important to me to take a moment, feel the gratitude. I was like, this is a little much. This is annoying. But then I was like, rain, I'd be grateful. People send me really nice messages, but the nicest messages came from the men in my life. Like guys that we were friends with. And I was like, this is crazy. Like when I got like the third or fourth and I was like, I got a screenshot these

read them to Ashley. These are the nicest text messages that anybody sent me. Okay. I love you and miss you. You are truly one of the most supportive and kind people I've met in business and in life. I am so grateful for you. A man sent that to me. Oh my God. Okay. I love you and I miss you. I hope he's, he has a girlfriend. Yikes. And he said she is sitting next to me. She says, happy birthday too. I, okay. Your boyfriend did tell me you love me. It's a little far.

He did not tell me he loved me. Oh, I was about to, I felt height, heat in my body. It's a little weird. Don't, don't, don't be out here. He can throw you a love ya in person, maybe. I dare him to write, I love you. I know. I was like, she know about this. But he was like, she's with me. She says, I've ridder. Okay. Raina, happiest of birthdays, I feel very lucky to a serendipitously met you and become such great friends. I can't wait for our six-hour therapy sessions, ignoring each other's dating life advice and borrowing your car when I'm back in L.A.

Love you so much. I hope you're having the most special day. A man wrote that. Wow. And it's giving your book entry. Where do I start? You're truly the most important. Okay.

Yeah. Raina. It's 437 a.m. I'm in L.A., which means I still have not forgotten your birthday in my book. I love you. You've become a closer. What is the, I love you. Do they have nobody else to say I love you to? What is happening? Why are they all emotionally dumping on you? People really like me. No, I get it. I'm not saying that it's weird. I'm just saying it's a lot. It's a lot of I love you. You haven't told me you love me since 98. I wasn't even born then.

I love you. And you've become. I'm a closer and closer friend despite living further away. Happy birthday. My dear Raina, you have grown finer with age, and I appreciate you so much. What is happening? I think I think it's just trying to fuck. All these guys are hot as fucked. Yeah, I think they're trying to make sure that, like.

The shortest one is 6-1. I mean. Also, like, Dylan, which I think he was in the mix. You don't want to say any names. He texted me. Is it Raina's birthday? Yeah, Dylan. Did you check Instagram?

Is it Rainier's birthday? I had it down as a different day. Relax. It was crazy. Oh my God. Is it raised birthday? Frantic. I had it down as a different day.

Well, it's today. You could have seen it by her post, by my post. He was like upset. I was like, what is happening? This isn't me doubting that you deserve all this love, but it's interesting. The level of I love you is from these men. They love them tities. None of my girlfriends said anything like that.

My girlfriends were like, get some dick today. Yeah. I hope your day's full of dick. do everything I wouldn't do. Maybe this is nice. It's a sign that men are like emotionally maturing or they're not okay. And they have nowhere to put their emotions but you. Two of the three of these people I spend a lot of hours doing emotional dumping with. Oh my gosh. And it's go back and forth. I mean, it's crazy. I don't have a boyfriend. I don't get people like me. I know. Hot men. Yeah. They just want to be my friend. You say it like you're trying

to convince everybody knows. We all love you, Raina. She's out here like, guys, everyone loves me. I swear. Like, how do I have like 100 boyfriends? It's crazy. It sounds like you do. One is recently single.

One is single. One is a girlfriend with all that. People are listening. Like, my man doesn't even say that to me. I know. I do let these people trauma dump on me, though. I'm just here for the gossip, so I don't care. Can I tell you the DMs I've been getting?

Yeah. They've been about my butt. So after. I talked about my butt, my Astley update. If you're new around here, it's Raynell Greenberg and Astley Hustletown. And I'm always having issues with my butt. And after I talked about my whole pharmacy situation, this was a couple weeks ago and like my itchy butt, which it hasn't itched in weeks, guys.

I'm cured. I had some funny DMs. We got an email too about your butt. There's been a lot. People are so invested in my butt. People are emailing our professional email address about your butt. So this came through, I got like three to four of these. Okay.

People sent me this custom key chain artwork by Jenny Schlomel on. Shlaman. I'll read it. I'm not like other girls. I have hemorrhoids. That key chain. It's beautifully done.

And then this. It's just like some Instagram account, Equal 3. It feels like an Adam the creator type thing, like a Photoshop thing. And it's Thomas the Taint itching. Instead of like Thomas the Tate. No, it has the head of a truck and the butt of Grace WebPen. So watch on YouTube. She goes, hi, I sat here for like, this is a stranger or follower.

You know. I sat here for 10 minutes thinking about whether or not I should send this to you. But you were the first thing I thought of when this showed up on my feed. I love you and Raina and your podcast so much. And I hate that this is the first time I'm interacting with you. I really hope I'm not shun for this one. You ladies are the best and make my week so much better. I'm glad the rectal cortisone helped.

Like she's a long time, like listener. But it's funny that I did like it. And I did say like, ha, ha, ha. That's her interaction with me, her first one. I love it. She's like, I can't lose my first interaction with us. Tess's first interaction with us was I pulled my own IUD out. Yeah.

She works here now. She works here now, exactly. And then someone message me, like, why don't you use a lufa, you know, and I hope I'm not overstepping. Like, it was just very funny. And so I haven't told you this yet. I haven't been like gaykeeping. I just keep forgetting. So my other butt issue of the multitude.

You're another one. Raina, stop. Don't be ashamed of me. You know this one. So we're on the mend with it, but I do get some bumps on my butt from like a way. wet bathing suit, for example. Yeah. So I am very blessed to not have ever had acne on my face.

I don't get pimples and blemishes. I feel very lucky, but they all are concentrated in the back. You also have like an noily soft skin. Like your arms, like I have all those bumps on the back of my arm. I figure what that's called, but it's a constant struggle. Again, I have other skin issues. I have this stuff on my neck, but then my skin actually is like very soft. But anyway, so whatever it is, my butt is really sensitive to any sort of like, if you sit

in a workout pant if I wear a wet bikini. Like, I don't have the luxury of ever really sitting in a wet bikini or I will get like pimples on my butt. This is like very common. But like I have to really immediately shower after I work out, you know, like I can't just be doing hot yoga and sitting in the car or whatever. And it's getting worse. And so I ordered this cream from Amazon and it's been working like a dream.

But like if you Google this, it's just like you have to really take care of this. You need to like cleanse and exfoliate, which obviously I do. really can't be sitting around in like any sort of like moist clothing, whatever. So like two weeks ago, I went to the hot yoga and like I still go to yoga in West Hollywood sometimes and if we're up there for a meeting or whatever. So this was like when you went on that khaki date with that guy. So we were at Soa House. You stayed in your khakis and your slacks to meet with that guy and I went to yoga at Y7.

And I'm doing the class and I'm like, oh my God, now I'm going to have wet hot yoga pants. I get soaked during high yoga and I'm going to have to drive home. And I was like, what am I going to do? I can't. I can't risk it. I would have 10 new butt pimples. I can't sit in traffic. You did not drive up or I'm home pussy out.

You did not take up your pants, shove them in your lap to cover your vagina and drive home with your whole pussy out. No, I did. How slow did you take a photo? How slow did you drive in the car? in a sports bra, butt naked, just bare cheeks on the red leather, your jaguar. So with pants on your lap. I can't decide what your face says in this photo. You're going to post this?

I'll post it on the YouTube, you guys. You send this to your boyfriend? No, he doesn't know this. He's hearing the story for the first time. Babe, turn this off. No. He looks skinny. I like that you put the seatbelt on.

You seatbelted your pants to your... Right. Shut up. So, here... So here... I would have gotten seatbelt first. Pants on top of it. No, so here's what happened.

Okay, let me talk about it. The fact that the pants are seatbelted to your lap. Also, these are like the pants I wore that day. So they're like the khaki pants. You seatbelted khaki pants. Raina, if you don't let me finish. It's all cocky now that all our guys friends are in love with her. So I had my khaki slacks that I wore early that day.

We went to the meeting. We both wore those slacks, right? And I didn't bring them into the yoga studios. They were in the car. So I'm like, I'm not going to put these back on. And I'm not going to put on like my slacks, whatever. So I was like, here's my plan of action. So I had a towel, like a face towel to wipe my face.

So I sat on that. I was parked where you couldn't really see me. So I had to do this in the car. So I sat on a towel. So I'm not like bare ass on my seats. So I like wedged a towel underneath. And then I did put my like pants over my lap and then buckled him in. Are you worried you're going to turn hard?

Here's where it gets really weird. Oh, it hasn't gotten weird yet. Okay. I just like kept my leggings like around my ankle. How did you drive? What do you even say? You only need like one foot to drive. Like why?

Because I just like I'm like like less mobility. I was just like I'm going to take them off like my sneakers off. Like I put my sneakers like I just was like I don't care. It was a weird move. So then. Okay. Here's what I understand. You're driving with an outfit on that if you get pulled over it will be really bad.

I drove very slow and safe. But you were like what I want to do is make sure my driving is worse. So let me handcuffs. cuff my ankles. It didn't really affect me. They were kind of right here, like mid. It didn't affect me. They were mid.

Probably not safe. They're stretchy. It didn't really affect me that much. But then it was weird when I got home and pulled into my garage. Was anybody else in the garage? No, because like, then I was like, I could not have done this at my West Hollywood house. Like, when I came up with this plan, I was like, I can only do this because I have a garage. So I pulled in the garage.

I shut the door behind me. And then I shuffled in pants around my ankles. Pussy out. I feel like when I walked into Zool was like, what has been going on? I can't believe I'm sharing this. I'm so happy you did. And I'm making fun of you, but I didn't even tell you this. Also, what I wanted to say was, is it the pants that you're wearing right now? No, no, no. I mean, would it matter? No, these were like cargoes. No, they were like my LPA, like, slacks. Would it matter that you wear those pants as a pair of underwear? Yeah, a little pants. And guess what? No blemishes. You're just going to be rolling around sitting on towels.

no pants on it took a couple weeks of like clearing it up i feel like it's the same as what could be on your face like it's been frustrating like it's like it's like one of those things that like once it started it wouldn't stop and i was just getting so frustrated because like i you know i want my skin to look smooth i want to walk around naked and feel confident in front of my partner and all that kind of stuff i want to you know me i never want to have my ass out and that's like part of it i just don't love the skin back there yeah i get but i'm clearing it up and this is what i have to do after yoga i love this story thank you for talking about the podcast this is so much better i'm making funny you, but I didn't tell you this yesterday, the reason why it took me so long. So I dropped you off

at Great White to get a table for us in Venice, right by the beach, and I went to like drive around to find a spot. I found a spot immediately. I found if I was in 30 seconds. And on a pretty like busy street right next to Ocean Avenue. And I don't actually know if that's what it's called, but it's an ocean along the avenue. It's busy. And I decided I was hot and I wanted to change. So I slipped my sweatpants off in the car and I forgot I wasn't wearing underwear. And so you were pussy out in your car too. Pussy out bare ass. Yeah. Sitting on. my seat and then I was trying to pull this like my little cerulean jumpsuit on you didn't even ask me how I changed that was weird I like went on at the table and then yeah you came back but then

you were talking about needing a tampon and I did need a tampon and I was like I guess she just bled I guess yeah I just didn't even didn't ask I was out of it I had no bra no underwear on and I had to figure out how to get sweatpants and a tank top off at a jumper on and I did that in the car see just butt on the seat we all do weird shit yeah and I like to be open about it and normalize it. Where were you? Where were you parked when you took your pants off? In the parking garage. Okay. I just did it in the middle of straight. And this guy, pussy out? Pussy out. In the street. Well, I was parked on the street. But as soon as I got the jumpsuit on and I started to zip it up, also no bra, this guy just popped up right next to the car and

he's like, I like your outfit. I was like, how long have you fucking been here? Oh my God. He was like, I have photos. Yeah, he's like, I've been watching the whole time. That's why I like the outfit. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's what I wanted to share with you guys. I love that photo so much. Yeah, we'll post it. We'll post all of it. We'll post all the DMs. I got them on my butt and that selfie.

And I'm glad I got to share it with you. We'll post all rain as DMs too. And we'll tag who sent it. We'll tag all the people with something. Yeah. And tag their girlfriends too. Yeah, only one of them as a girlfriend. Okay, I am so excited to tell you guys about game time.

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bottom line, like I ignored some red flags because I kind of trusted the follower who sent me to her who feels so terrible. And I know this is like a conversation. But bottom line, like I did send money to someone and it was a scam and I feel stupid and it happens to the best of us and then like I'll never let it happen again. But, you know, I thought I was getting these Celtics tickets and again like I got scammed and we're trying to like dispute it and hopefully I'll get my money back and stuff like that. But regardless, I did end up buying the tickets off game time. So I was like, I hate that this happened and I knew of game time, of course, and I've used them before and now they're a partner of ours. But I bought him the day before the game. And, and

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the recent event we went to with President Joe Biden and former President Barack Obama and just kind of share our experience with it and, you know, have a little political discourse. And you guys know, you know, how we feel on the show about politics and who we are supporting. And it was really special that we got to be at this event. Yeah, it was amazing. So basically it was this huge fundraiser in L.A. I mean, there was celebrities involved and Jimmy Kimmel mediated a discussion between Barack Obama. and Joe Biden and was downtown at this big theater. But prior to that, we got invited to a

happy hour that was for creators who vote. So it was put on by this marketing company that we worked with before. And they are familiar with us. And there was different creators there. I mean, Nick Vile was there and his wife. And there were some other podcasters there. Pod Save America guys were there and some celebrities. There was like Connie Britton and some different people. And they just wanted to bring everyone together. And there was a surprise guest of honor. We were ushered into this back room because they said they were just going to give us some instructions on how the rest of the night was going to go and just talk about the event. And I was like, I don't think we need to go to those. Like, I don't know how events go. We host events. So they're

like, if you just congregate in the back. So we go in the back. There's maybe, I don't know, 60 people, 80 people. And somebody walks in the room and I turn around and it's Barack Obama. It was, I mean. I'm looking at you and like, I could tell, like, it hadn't registered to your brain yet. And I was like, do she not care? It's not the craziest thing she's ever seen. But I think it's like you don't believe that could ever happen well my back was to him when he walked in and then we were our friend taylor she grabbed my arm and she was like oh my god look who just walked in and i just thought like she had seen connie britain or somebody you know like i just thought she'd seen like a celebrity or something you know whatever and i turn i feel like this was in slow mo like i'll never forget it

i turned and i couldn't have been more than five feet away from him like he was so close i mean we can play a video when he walks by us like we were right there when he walked in it's crazy i mean i I don't know someone else who I would feel like that about. Like my knees went weak. Like I could, I feel like I was like shaking, crying, throwing up. Like it's him and Beyonce. I feel like that. I really feel like that about.

I mean, I feel like, I'm kind of halfway kidding. But something about him is so different. I mean, he's not a celebrity. A, you know, this isn't like a starstruck thing, but it was. Because he's such, he's Barack Obama. I mean, he's just, he's one of the best presidents we've ever had. I mean, I still can't believe he was our president for eight years. I think about it all the time.

I mean, I just, I can't believe we did that. I can't believe we elected him once and then twice and like where we are now. And I'm just like he, you know, he was as good as they get in terms of presidents. And I couldn't believe he was just standing right there. I felt like I blacked out. Yeah. Like was choking back tears. Like, is everybody else in the room like vibrating?

Yes. And I feel like it's almost like, it reminded me of when I got engaged when like I was sitting there and my then fiance when he walked out and proposed to me and you're having this like out of body experience and they're saying words and you like can't hear them because you're like what is happening and then like afterwards you're like can you do it again yeah like he gave that whole speech and I was like also I wouldn't have had all these drinks beforehand I wouldn't have been three margaritas deep by the time Barack Obama started speaking three margaritas is gonna put it in my push Raina saying that to I wanted him I was on put it in my touch level by the time Barack walked into

the room so we're going to play a little bit at this speech I mean it spoke to my soul in a lot of ways. And he spoke for about seven minutes. And I wanted to take it in and be in the moment. So I didn't record it. But I got the full speech from some new friends that we met. And Mal and Matilda, they are the host of the Made It Out podcast. So they're a couple. And they actually know Ali, who is the guest today. And so Mal and Matilda were so fun. And I took a video that Mal was in, then I got like 30 seconds or whatever. And she turns around and you watch her mouth, what the fuck? You know?

And so I sent that to her. And I was like, I think you filmed the whole thing. Can you like send it to me? So anyway, I just wanted to shout out also their podcast. Happy Pride. Made it out podcast and shout them out, of course. And she's the one who sent this to me. And, you know, I'm not going to play the whole thing.

But this part like really speaks to, I think, a message that we want to send and that we co-signed. So I'll just a place for you guys now. And if you're watching on YouTube, you'll see the video that she took as well. You know, we live in a cynical time. Let's face it, I think a lot of the people who watch you, listen to you, who are fans of you, a lot of times they feel turned off by the political discourse. And I get it. You know, I frankly watch sports mostly.

Because it feels like everything is slash and burn. and how do we destroy other people, and even folks who are well-meaning in the political arena, so oftentimes it feels like they're pushing a boulder up the hill, and we're not making the kind of progress that we'd like. And every four years, you get people like me coming around saying, this is really important, and it could end up having an impact on all of the people. of your lives and so you cannot give away your power. And you hear it often enough and at a certain point you start maybe tuning it out.

But this election really counts and you can't afford to give away your power at this moment because our capacity to solve big problems like climate change, our capacity to deal with issues like racial injustice, our ability to protect the ability of women to make their own decisions about their own bodies, our capacity to maintain a democratic system where we can disagree and yet still find common ground and decide that there's some things that are more important than us just winning all. all the time, that there's something to be said for being able to listen to other people and hear with different points of view and engage and create a community.

All that's at stake. And there's a choice between one candidate who doesn't believe in those things and another candidate who does believe in them. And Joe Biden, you may not agree with everything he does. By the way, you didn't agree with everything I did. And that's okay because in a big, messy, complicated country like this, there are going to be disagreements. But Joe Biden's basic trajectory, what he believes in his core,

about how you should treat other people and how we should be able to. give opportunity to folks who don't have it and how we should care for the planet for the next generation. He believes in the basic things that you believe in. And nine times out of ten, he's going to make decisions that accord with your core beliefs. But it doesn't happen by itself. Yeah. So, I mean, and there was more to it than that. He really spoke to, like, influencers using their influence and platforms and the way you spoke about it was really great you don't have to do this every day you can be you know funny about it but it's just kind of like why do you have a platform if you aren't using it and i think

that's something that you and i have always done and you guys know where we stand and this is what we are going to be supporting as we near the election and i mean that being said like i just can't stress enough that i think so many things are broken and corrupt and i worry sometimes like is America too far gone. You know, like, I don't think that our system is perfect. I think we need change and better candidates across the board and more people invested in local and state elections and all those things. I mean, I feel frustrated about the Democratic Party a lot. I wish things were different. I wish this presidential race was different. And people who, like, really want to change the system and have it work better for them. Like, I'm with you. But it is going to be extra hard to

near impossible to change the system under president who has continuously tried to dismantle our democracy. So we know people don't like Joe. We understand there's so much hurt and pain and frustration and devastation when it comes to the war in Gaza and so many other things are happening around the world all the time. Other wars and other atrocities. And, you know, we think about this stuff a lot. And it's on our minds too. But I mean, when it comes to our country, I think you have to choose the person in this election that does align the most with your values. and there's just too much at stake.

That's my opinion. And, you know, I'm just kind of echoing what we just heard Barack Obama say. Yeah. You know, we want to keep this show light and fun and comedy and relationships and sex and all that. But what he said really spoke to me. We do have a platform. I want to use my influence. If I could design a perfect candidate, it would be none of the people that are on the ballot right this moment.

You know, I don't think there's any perfect solution. I think there's so many issues that people care about that I wish there was this perfect person to vote for. but I have to pick the person that's going to create the least amount of damage. Yeah, I think that another Trump presidency could create irreparable damage. And this whole lesser of two evils mentality that kept people from voting or perhaps voting third party is what happened in 2016 as well. People hated Hillary and, you know, here's what happened. And I know it's not the same. And I know people's issues with Joe Biden.

I get it. And if you think that he has done things that won't allow you to vote for him, that's your choice. but I can't stress enough that there is so much at stake and I just want people to consider that. And again, it's your choice. But I have more to say. I think about this all the time. All of this is on my mind. I think you guys know that Rain and I have humanity and we care about all the things that are

going on that are unfair and so devastating. And we can't obviously cover all those things on this podcast. It's not what it's about. But we do want to use our platform and we'll continue talking about it here and there. Of course, it's not going to turn into like some political show and we'll have some guest on here and there as we near the election just as we did in 2020. Yeah. And we love you guys. We respect your opinions, your differing opinions. We're not here to villainize people on different sides of the aisle. I think there's been so much of that for so

long and not being able to share ideas with people. You can't be in the same room as somebody who thinks something different as you. We don't want to be like that either. We respect you guys and your backgrounds and where you come from. But you have to stand up for something. You can't do nothing. So we're going to have to do that. We're going to encourage you guys to vote and have people on the show that can provide better political commentary than us. Ashley and I are not news anchors. Yeah, I'm sure everything we say will get ripped apart somewhere by someone. But I mean, you know, I just also encourage people to look at what this administration has accomplished, see if that resonates with you. That was something nice about the event too. It was just like,

here's what has been accomplished in the last three and a half years when it comes to jobs and unemployment and health care and gun violence prevention and all those things. Like I think people can really just get fired up and get angry over one. thing and ignore everything else. And if you're one issue person, that's also your prerogative. But again, I think you have to look at the options and what aligns more with your values in the type of country you want to live in. So that's it. Okay. On that note, we have a great episode for you guys with a wonderful guest who is a dear friend of ours. And before we get into it, we're just going to thank one more partner and we'll jump in. Okay. I am so excited to talk about

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She is a brilliant, hilarious comedian. She is one of our very good friends previously, neighbor down the street and she brought along with her journalist and her girlfriend. Please welcome to the show again, Ali Colbert and her girlfriend, Lauren McCarthy. This is an audio platform. Oh, sorry. Thank you so much. Are we, aren't we getting video?

Thank you so much. Yeah, but not everybody. I'm honored to be here. Lauren, you could say hi. Hi. We were just talking about you and Raina. Showering to you. This is my thing is that, and I said this to you, that Raina says,

often that anyone can stay at the house. She says, anyone can stay at my house. I have all these guest rooms. Stay, stay, stay. I would love it. I would love it. She says it. She brags.

And I'm like, all right, maybe I'll stay and we can watch a show and I would fall asleep in one of these rooms. And when I said, yes. When I was moving out, I actually for once needed a place to stay. Yeah. And I thought, all right, I could get a hotel, three, four hundred attacks. Or I could finally hit up Raina. Yeah. And I hit up Raina and I said, hey, I'm ready to stay at the house.

I need a place. And Raina was like, not answering, but posting on Instagram. And I was like, this is rude. I was like, maybe you should find a hotel in a meet time. I was like, just say no. Because Raina will let any man stay here, but all of a sudden. A hundred percent. You should back me up on this.

I said yes. If you read the text messages, I did say yes. I knew you were consulting with her. And then I was like, you kind of ghosted me the weekend before. Yeah, you ghosted both of us. Yeah, thank you for bringing that up. You asked us to hang out and I said, we can do this and this. And I said, I couldn't do it.

Ashley said, I'll tell you why I go to you. I flew in New York the next day for Passover. Ali, I have your location. And all day. Sunday, I flew to New York for Passover. Ashley said I can hang out and you stop responding. No, that's not what happened. This is a classic house of episode.

We have to stop because people listening are probably feeling like. No, we're very in a good. We're in a good place. We're like sisters. I had to, they, neither of them have sisters. So they don't understand that this is normal. Yeah. You have sisters?

That I'm like, this is love. Like this mild. abuse. You guys, but you and I don't fight like this. It's specific to you and Raina, but it really is giving sisters. I did not mean to ghost. I did not mean to ghost. I couldn't go to the book fair. I flew to New York on Sunday morning. I know you have my location. I'm not scared. Well, A, we like to hang out. Well, A, we like hanging out because you're moving. I know, and I'm here now and I think if we could just be present and enjoy each other. You part of it. Here she. She gaslights me. You guys way in the way in the comments. Okay. So anyway, you guys are both wearing overalls and burghans stocks,

which I love. So we're gay. We wanted to come and say that we're gay. Yeah, we wanted to really... We coordinated. When we started dating, Lauren was like, I never want to be one of those

lesbian couples that dresses like a like or shares any clothes or anything like that. And then I said, I'm wearing overalls today and she was like, I'm going to wear overalls too. That's not true. I said I'm going to wear overalls on the plane. You guys flew in jeans. No, Lauren just put this on.

I just put the stairs in my house. Was this is yours? Lauren bars closed for Raina, but not. I'm staying here tonight. I'm staying here tonight. I'm staying here tonight. I, Oh, really?

That's psycho. That's the best. Lord wins the podcast. Laura, you actually can stay. How interesting. Okay. So I actually love this topic of like couples dressing alike.

Like matching Disney shirts, no. You know, like matching Mickey and Minnie. Color palette, though? But I think couples start to vibe in the same way, color palettes. And like, I like it. I'm matching, matching, no. identical. I sometimes feel like me and my boyfriend have the same vibe going on.

I like the similar vibe. You have like emo couple. You have like Brooklyn hipster couple. You have like I work out. That's my personality couple. Workout couple. I think it's good to compliment each other. I think it would look bananas if you had like a whole different vibe about like if you were like

Kate Middleton and I was Pete Davidsoning over here. That would look psycho bananas. Well that's straight couples a lot of the time. That's very like Justin and Haley Bieber vibes were. But I'm saying like I like what you're saying like you guys have a nice. aesthetic fashion. Overall choice. We also smell the same.

Do we? Are you wearing La Labo together? Well, we wear La Labo lotion. She wears a different. I feel passionately about the scent than I do. I actually think the lotion is much better than the scent. You guys both smelled great when you got to that.

I got the lotion recently and the lotion for the rose 31 or whatever. The lotion is a little masculine, which is fine. I don't like it. That's why we like it. Yeah. I like it. I like it, but it's musky. Yeah.

I like to smell like a rose garden. Like, boom. You know, like it's a little musky. I think the lotion. stays on your body longer than the perfume. But I can't come standing up. Yeah. That's next is coming and showering.

Yeah. Take it away. I feel really embarrassed that like I've never wanted to shower with a partner and I'm definitely in the minority. Like I've never enjoyed it. I just want like get in and get out. But you don't like shower. And is that because I don't love shower.

In general. Like I love to shower in general. So I like to shower with my partner. Like you don't like it. I don't take joy from it. Yeah. I hate being wet. You like to pick bath and you like to take baths with people.

I will take baths with. I love a bath. I love a bath. We took an wildly long bath. showers are like, they're just for fun, they're like functional for me. Like I just want to like get in, wash my hair, get out. I'm doing it for pleasure.

Okay, so you guys do both showers and baths. I mean, we don't frequent the bath. Let me like just put some context here. Yeah. Is that right now we're living in a studio apartment. Because you just moved from L.A. to New York. Yeah.

Okay. So they just moved from L.A. to New York. Yeah. And so I'll say we're showering together to save water and money. No. Real New Yorkers. No, we're showering together because even, in a studio, Allie misses me.

And if I'm in the shower, she just like peeps her in the corner. But I do think showering is nice. And what we were saying before is if we could just get another head, then I wouldn't have those 30 seconds of cold where I'm sort of questioning everything. Well, I mean, I feel like no one's really talking about this enough. Yeah. Like that there are real issues in just a normal shower. I don't even thought about it.

Because I really do love also shower with my partner. But not all showers are created equal. And sometimes someone is cold. Right. And so we are saying like one day in our dream home. Like we'll have it coming from at least three angles. Totally. And isn't it amazing how clean your tits are when you shower with your partner?

Yeah, I get like a full mammogram in there. I was going to ask, what do you like about showering with a partner? Thank you, Lauren. And does he not get hard? Investigative journalist Lauren. Thank you. He gets hard sometimes. We hook up in the shower sometimes.

I don't know that. Nobody likes that. We really do. I just think it's not sexual at all? We've done both. We've done functional in and out. We've got to go somewhere. We've done hooking up in the shower.

I just love showers. I think there's something so hot about it. I think he looks so hot. Wet. Yeah. I'm like, stop being so sexy. Like, when he's shampooing, I'm like, who do you think you are? Like, I will literally be like, you look like you're trying to model.

Right. He's like, I'm just washing my hair. Like, James Bond coming out of the ocean. Yeah. Sexy. I like that, like, fully naked, seeing each other's bodies, wet vibe. No, it's so fun. But I have a question for you.

I didn't know that you just did functional showers together, too. We don't really. It's like, it's time to wash my hair. Get in here. You're trying to save time? Maybe if we're like. If you're hanging out, you don't want to end the hang. Or we have a dinner.

You want to talk about the menu? Because you guys are new. That was funny. No, but you're like, you're hanging out. You just taught me to be like, I'd like to interject. Hey, what I noticed you didn't laugh. I noticed you didn't laugh at my joke. You guys probably can relate to this.

Like, you know, sometimes, especially in a newer relationship, you are just always on top of each other. You're hooking up. You're doing whatever. And then all of a sudden you're like, oh, my God, it's time for dinner. The res is, you know, we got to go quick. No. Is that our experience? No.

I know. I don't find that too. Can we back up a little. about you guys? How long are you getting to miss her when she's around the court? I do miss her, but I don't find us like losing track of time. No, because you're militant about it. I'll tell you why, because we're not losing.

We are so not losing track of time. Oh, okay. No. She has a very stressful job. Yeah. There's not like the hours are not slipping away, I don't think. No. I actually, and you know why.

You guys are watching the clock. You know why? Actually, it's because of this fucking aura ring. Oh, I love the or ring. We used to have fun. And the oar ring is like Get to bed And I'm like can we just have a moment?

She wears it Yeah she wears it I don't need two fucking Gestapo's a mouth This oar ring shames you It's not like Apple Health Where it's like take some more steps It's like what the fuck did you do last night slut Get to bed earlier

It's so mean It's like it's like why don't you move your body today This is so funny It's like the oral cockplock in the relationship And it's like it's time to go Be put down I don't know. It's like popping up on your phone. Oh yeah, it texts me. telling you everything. Get to bed. Get to bed.

So are you guys hooking up in the shower or you're doing functional? No, we don't hug up in the shower. Because you can't come standing up. It's like intimate, but it's not. No, it's not, it doesn't, no, it's not a full-blown, you know. Are people, am I the only one? No, I'm sure they, I'm sure people are moving with me. I hook up in the shower in the tub if I have to.

No, we're hooked. I just, nobody comes in the shower. Nobody comes in the shower. Like, you can't even like, you will. I can't think. We can't speak about that. I can't do anything well in the shower. I'm with you. Like, we'll dabble in some penetrative sex in the shower, but nobody's coming from that.

But, like, I've come in the shower from finger stuff. I could do that. Bath tub's absolutely not. There's just too much. Like, up against a shower wall, it's just hot. No, it's too much. Also, in a bathtub, you don't actually feel what you want to feel. Your bathtub's too much liquid.

But also, it's taking away your natural lubricic. Yeah, it's a mess. But standing up fingers, everybody's wet and slippy. I can come. And I'm hearing all of these through. You know, if I can give some context for you, like Lauren had a pretty conservative Midwest upbringing. Okay. So a lot of shower coming.

You know, I think it kind of colors her like how she has conversations like this where like she hears how I talk on like podcasts and on stage. It's actually not that you don't relate or find it funny. But I think your natural instinct is like, oh, okay, be a little more like reserved in like conversations like this. Isn't that true? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, 100%. Like that makes sense. And also if I wasn't like a comedian or like a podcaster, I don't know that I would be like, you know, just like going off about like shower sex and stuff.

I know people have normal jobs. Well, respect Lauren's boundaries. No, no, I know. But I see the face she's making. When I said finger, she's like, beep, beep, bleep that out. And it's like, it does kind of inform. I'm going to go into some story points here. I know that's your show.

But take it away. It does kind of inform like how you went about coming out and how it was. different than my coming out. Yeah. And stuff like that. Where like you have something beaten into you for so long by society of like it becomes harder to like tear apart conditioning and the patriarchy and all that stuff. Let's talk about it more.

I mean, I can't imagine how hard it would be like. Yeah. How hard was it, Lauren? Can we like introduce you guys a little bit more? Al, you grew up in New York. Yeah. I grew in Connecticut. Okay.

And I mean, by the way, you have a relatively liberal upbringing. It's just where you're from. Like a mix of both. I don't know. I always say like... Where'd you grow up? Michigan, Garnapids. It's conservative. Some of my family is liberal.

Some of my family is extremely conservative. Okay. And I would say like, but even a Michigan liberal is like a moderate in New York. Totally. Yeah. And I moved to the city when I graduated high school and I went to NYU. And Lauren went to University of Michigan. And after college, we both had the same first job together.

Okay. Yeah. You guys have noticed that for 10 years. Yeah. We both worked at... Ellie exaggerates that. It's almost nine. It's nine years.

I'll give it two for them. We worked as pages together at NBC. And when I first met Lauren, I was in my first queer relationship with a really dykey lesbian. And I can show you the spot where I was standing when I found out that Allie was dating this girl. So were you out yet? No, she was dating a boy. Boyfriend after boyfriend. It was so exhausting.

And you say you could show her the spot because you remember, you felt it in your body like I'm jealous I remember who told me and I remember like where we were when they told me because you were shocked that I was gay I don't know I just took it in like I remember totally that it's okay that you know and a lot of like gay people that were out and living that lifestyle no probably not that many okay honestly so it was interesting for yeah yeah it was okay I totally feel that yeah that's it's interesting the stuff that you that you like remember about like first like I remember in middle school like one memory I have of this one gay girl and in the gym locker room

she would always spray on Axe Body Spray which is a very queer thing of like we just actually were talking about how we all like men's sense but like I didn't have a friendship with her I don't remember anything she was up to I just remember that she would put on X body spray and that like seared in my mind as some like flicker of like queer identity or whatever it was

but I remember when you started at the page program and obviously I was like you're so pretty it's annoying and I was like and also you were like smart too and I was like pick one all right Right. Like, she can't be funny too. No, it's ridiculous.

And likable. It was ridiculous. And I remember thinking, and this is my own issue, that when people are that pretty and that friendly, it's two-faced. I don't trust you, you know, and you were so friendly. People feel like that about me. And I remember she had all of these boyfriends that she kind of had, no offense, this Instagram page where like you would cycle the same kind of post, like this guy.

Oh, it's just another day with this. guy, you know, but it would be a different guy every like 16 months. Yeah. Okay. And, but, you know, you're so, you're just adorable. So it was very hard for me to imagine years later when I heard that you came out and you had been engaged and you called it off because you were exploring your sexuality that you had been going through a hard time because it's hard for me to imagine gorgeous, friendly, smart. I'm like, what could be so hard for you? You know, and now that I've gotten to know Lauren like much more intimately now that we're dating like it's actually was a terrible time it was an absolutely terrible time when so heard she came out what do you mean just through the

great mine like did you guys stay close friends we have a friend group we have a shared friend group yeah we have a shared friend group of people that have worked together and you know when I would go to New York we would all get together and I would see you in group settings and then when you came to LA we would get drinks and I would say like a year after you called off your engagement I was engaged and then I called off my engagement. By the way, sometimes people, I think, find that to be like an obstacle when they're, like, relating to someone. And we kind of bonded over the fact that we both called off engagements. That time definitely made us closer. Yeah. And when we started hanging out, when we were both single for the first time, it was just like, oh, I always wanted to, like, kind of date.

I always wanted to date you, but we had never been single at the same time. I don't know how much to say, but I remember you reaching out to me when you called off your engagement, and I was still engaged. But I was like hearing about her thing, and like, I was like, oh man, I was like available. I would so go for this person. This is two years ago when you ended the engagement, you guys been together for

about a year, something like that? Not like half a year. But this was a while ago. Yeah. When we were talking then. Lauren, I asked you before, and now I'm a little confused. Before you got engaged to a man, were you out? I had never dated women and like never quite been able to articulate that I wanted to.

Actually, a month before I got engaged, before he proposed, he asked me what would be the hardest thing about marrying someone that, like, I had started dating at 22. Or I was 22, he was 26 when we first started dating. Oh. And I said never. I said never dating a woman. He had an idea that you were into it. I think that was like the first time that I had been so honest.

And then we got engaged like a month later. He was like, okay, well, that's fine. Yeah. Yeah. Like it didn't register or something. How serious was the conversation? Was he like, well, that's cute. Or were you like,

No, it was like, it's like, that's so funny. Watch some porn. It was like, I don't know. It's like so weird though because like that didn't even occur to me to think how serious was the conversation. Because I could say the same thing about literally a million conversations I've had with a million different people where if I play back the tape, I'm like, what the fuck was anyone thinking?

Well, I was engaged to someone where I was like, I don't really want kids. And that person wanted kids. No one thought, how serious is that conversation? It's just like actually reminds me of what we were saying inside about when people say things to you and they like evolve in a certain way like you kind of walk away and you play it back and you can't imagine how something like that happened. But you're like so in it. You're so stuck in something for whatever reason that like all of these things unfold and you make all of these concessions or you tell yourself all these different things to like justify why you're in that situation. And like we have this conversation a lot. around in the past, I've always been like a huge proponent of open relationships.

Okay. I'm like, people should be open. That sounds great. That makes a lot of sense. After a year, you should be open. I would sooner take a gun, shove it down my throat than suggest being open right now. And that's not to say that like I feel bad. All the poly people listening are going to be, oh, it's not true.

This is a way of life. No, it's not. You're not facing yourself. Well, what's right for you? It was it right for other people? But I have just seen and I felt at least in this relationship, not that. But I'm, you know, Matthew, I'll see. Yeah.

The relationship expert. But that certain things feel much more possible with someone that feels much more right to be with and easier to be with than in the past. I think it takes time for you to be able to hear yourself. Like we say, we say all of our truths all the time. It just depends on if you're listening to yourself and if the person that you're with is like listening to you and hearing you. If I said that to my boyfriend, if he was like going to propose and I said the thing about the woman, it would, the way it would. take him out because he so strongly believes that the bond between two women is like something, I don't know how he described this once where he was like, if you were ever with a woman,

I feel like I would know it was like over for us because I cannot give you what like a woman can give to another woman. I know. The way he framed it up, that went at Barney's Beener and he was like, a man is totally different. Like I can outdo any man, you know, but like a woman and a woman's bond is so different. Like he views it like that. So if I would have said that to him, he would have been like, oh no, I cannot possibly propose. you, I know if you feel that way. I don't know. The way he framed it, I was like, that's

very evolved and you understand. Yeah. A little different than what other men might think. I asked how serious was it? Because we do say things in passing sometimes like, well, I guess I'll just never get to be a woman with a woman now. You're so right. My man would be like, well, you have been with women. And also, we can be with women. You know, like, I wonder how seriously he took it. Right. And how seriously you said sometimes you say something out loud and You don't even realize how deeply you meant that. Yeah. Until you're like, oh, my God, I'm engaged to a man.

I really meant I want to be with women. Yeah. Yeah. I meant it. I mean, people say stuff like that all the time, right? And also, it is so common to hear a woman says to her husband, I want to be with women. I want to explore women.

And they go, do your thing. Yeah. Like, it's not a threat. It's not a threat. Because your boyfriend, your partner is like... Actually would be a huge threat. Huge threat. If your girlfriend comes to you and says she wants to be with women, be afraid.

And I feel like he gets it. Like, some men don't... Lauren, I have to ask. ask you when you got proposed to, what'd you feel? I was really happy. I wasn't awake to it yet. It was like a slow unfolding. And I think that's just like what your late 20s are about. Totally. Okay.

You know? I'm so envious, though, sometimes of like people that have had coming out like that. Oh, yeah. I know it was painful in its own way and you had to blow up this whole thing. But I always knew I was gay. And that was a different form of punishment. Yeah. of just like this is a life sentence.

You're going to have to hide this. And I was so acutely aware of it. In fact, I was pretty walled off to Lauren for a really long time because I knew that if I became close with her, I would want to be with her. And that is my cross to bear as a lesbian that always was falling in love with women that were not sure about their sexuality. And in fact, when I saw Lauren on Raya, she blocked me. I blocked her because I was.

So sure. Self-preservation. That I would like her and she wouldn't like me back. And I was like, I'm not going to stand for this. Wait, I'm not going to stand for this is giving rain as mafia. I'm not going to fucking stand for this. You're going to be sleeping with the fucking vicious if you don't match with me. Wait, what, don't cross me.

Don't fucking cross me. We made merch. Don't cross me. You know? I'm not going to stand for this. Ali, I want to back up something you said because you called it a life sentence. No, but I'm just saying she at least gets to have a beautiful relationship. okay it's not her person fine not meant to be with him forever whatever but she has a relationship

that i couldn't even stomach that i couldn't have a relationship with a like you know what i mean like that would have been too difficult for me but there is some ignorance as bliss component where where you find these people are like you know it's like i didn't know i was pregnant i didn't know it was a lesbian yeah i think people would vary on what they'd prefer yeah your story or lauren i don't know it's like it's like it's like one of those things like what is it if you put your luggage in the center your baggage in the center or you pick your own. Like I'm sure you like your own. Wait, what is it?

I want to know that metaphor. If you put your problems in the center of the room, you compare them to everyone else as you'd still take your own back or something. I've never heard that, but that sounds. Medium baggage. My most medium baggage is that. But like you're not going to change your own thing. Like your story makes sense to you and like I'm so grateful for how everything unfolded

because it makes sense. You call it a life sentence. I think that that's like an interesting term because I think that you are really accepting of who you are and your family. and you've had like beautiful relationships and your interview like it sounds like a negative thing. Oh, I thought you meant life sentences. This is my life. No, I think I think of more like in more my childhood, my adolescence becoming like accepting up my identity. I mean, you and I like we've become close in my like later 20s. Like that time

when I'm like already know myself, I'm comfortable. Like I'm able to be like in a relationship like when I was growing up and accepting myself and like my early 20s, that was a rockier road because I'm not able to present as confident because I was more unsure. That's what I meant by life. I'm joking that being gay is a life sentence. I mean, it's not good if you could be straight, choose straight. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. But we're always on time. We're always on time because Allie has been dating women for like 10 years. So you know how to manage women and you know how to manage their time. Yeah, we're always on time. But what I was, you came to Los Angeles. This is the first time that we're both single in like a decade. And she comes to Los Angeles and we get a drink and

she's like, can I bring my friend who I've met before and I'm friendly with? You were dating women at this point, Lauren. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And we have drinks with her friend, and it's a completely chaotic dinner. I mean, this is the dinners you have with your friends where you say everything. Okay.

These are the terrible things I've done. Yep. This is all of the insane choices I've made. Here are the insane choices I've made. We're drinking. It's a mess. You can see what Ellie doesn't really drink? I'm like, we want a bottle.

I'm revealing far too much. Yeah. What are you saying? It's his dinner. things that should not be repeated. I'll tell you after. But just things that you would never say if you're like, I'm going to date this person in a week.

Definitely. The things you say to your friends. And you're like, this person's doing this to me. I'm doing this. Like, I'm going to be just being crazy. Yeah.

Yeah. It was just. It was so funny. Let's get another bottle. It was psycho. It was not okay. We have such a good time at the dinner that I'm like, I have a dinner next week in New York.

You guys should come. Like, it would be so fun. And I'm realizing I'm like, always like Warren. This is my one time where she's available and I'm available. I'm like, you gotta make something happen. This is occurring to me as we're at this dinner. That you're into her. Yeah.

I'm like, all right. She's available and she doesn't sound too pleased with who she's hanging out with. I can now intervene. We have been friends at this point, eight, nine years. Every time we were in the other person city, we would see each other. We were always friends, but not so close. Like, I had never been to your apartment. No.

I've never been to mine. Because I don't want people staying at my house unless they're men. Yeah, I was seen at Raina's. And so like this was our typical cadence of like once every half a year we would get dinner. And this one just happened to be like so fun. And I brought another friend. Yeah. Okay.

And so I'm like, I'm going to be in New York next week. Come to this. You guys come to this dinner. My agent was throwing to like a dinner party. And they come and there's assigned seating. And I get seated across from Lauren. And in the week in between, we have a text. the three of us, they started a text.

I don't know why. No, you've asked for it. Okay. And we're talking all the time. It's like fun. She said make a group. I get seated across from Lauren and I'm like, fuck. This is like obvious.

I think she's going to think now that like I like asked to get her seated across from me or something. And I was like, hey, like this isn't a date. But if it is like I'll show you how I'm a good date or something. I don't know what I said to you. Yeah, you were like, oh my God, I don't want you to think this is a date. We're not dating. Don't worry. I was like, okay.

We don't know. All know Allie has game. Yeah. So. The res. Like last time she was on, we made her, like, walk us through her, like. All right. So, so Raina even with dying.

No, I'm not saying it's like, this. I know. I've seen her do this. She's your friend. I know her line. So Lauren has to have no patience for this. Like, I know all of this. So Lauren's like, I roll.

So we're sitting down. Lauren's like, I have risk. She's just. No, I don't have risk. I just see alleys and I'm like, that's your friend. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm drinking.

Because I'm like, I have to make something happen now. And I remember Lauren, like, two years ago at my birthday was like, I would make out with anyone. She said something like that to me. And I was like, I think I brought that up. I was like, give me your hand. And I took her hand and I was like,

we should, we should hook up tonight. This is that, that's dinner. Yeah. I was like, we should 100% hook up. Were you sober? No. I was like, when's it going to happen for us? Yeah.

And she's like, I'll think about it. She goes, not tonight. I was like, but will you kiss me tonight? She goes, yeah, we can kiss after this. And I was like, okay, great. And I was like, I mean, we should really be doing this. She goes, well, you can't see anyone else. then. What did you say?

She goes, oh, you go, I don't want it. She goes, well, I don't want to be in the mix. Okay. And I was like, fine. You don't have to be in the mix. She goes, and you need to take me to dinner. This is a great thing. I love this line. I don't want to be in the mix. Yeah. That's, that's everyone's now. That's amazing. That was the thing is like, we had gone to this dinner. I knew everything and everyone that Allie was doing. A hundred percent. And then a week later, she's hitting on me. And I've known you for so long. I had no idea that you even like were interested in me like that was all hitting me on the spot and yeah it's so hard to even put myself back in that brain like I adore you so much I was so open to it but I knew that like

if it didn't go well like that would put me six feet under like I wouldn't survive you like fucking around I love the boundary that you drew I think that's amazing yeah I don't want to be in the mix yeah I don't want to be in the mix and I said fine all he's like I overshared break up with it I was like god damn it Thank you. No, she was like, I was like, fine, I'll break up with everyone. Fine. And I was like, I'm going to be back in New York next week and I'll take you to dinner.

And I think I was like, all right, can I, I tried to kiss you. You pulled your fucking head back. And then I tried to kiss you again. You finally relented. No, I kissed you. Yeah. And then I came back to New York and we went to dinner. And it was like, because of that conversation we had before anything happened, we were

already a couple. I feel like it was like a light switch. It was just like we decided and then we fell in love. Yeah. Yeah. And we knew each other too well to like not choose into it. Totally. Really intentionally.

And then we were just in a relationship. Instantly. Yeah. This is like how it should be. Like none of that is like surprising. It's like the most perfect fairy tale friends getting into a relationship. I don't know everybody's story of falling in love and dating their friend. but it's like you already knew each other.

You add the attraction to the mix. It's immediate or something. I don't know. Like it makes so much sense to me. I mean, now we always say we can't believe people date strangers. That's iconic. So creepy. Why would you date a stranger?

Why don't you date someone you know? Like you're just getting them off the street? Right. It's wild. It's like a rescue. I mean, you guys have dated strangers before. Yeah, never worked out. Yeah.

Two broken engagements. No, I love this three in this room. Actually, actually, you're such an awful stranger. There's just something to the fact that you're meeting someone online or you're meeting someone out and you're dating them for the entire time. You've known, you've known them the whole time you've never seen them before. I'm like, at least her. I'm like, look, I know when she talks, she means it. She's consistent.

I trust her to like, I don't know. It's just like I've, I have history with you where I see how you operate as a human. Like, I've seen her like climb the rope professional. I see how she maintains friends socially. You know, otherwise, we're starting from friends. Totally. I mean,

I've always dated people that I worked with for like years. Employees, generally. And I have been trying to sleep with our video guy. She's going on about me too, but she's harassing her. Last night I called him. I was like, Tessa walked in on me naked.

He was like, I'm a little jealous. I was like, let's not back about it. Yeah. Anyway, so. That's so funny. I can't wait for a whole six months of tours of me and Tessa just being like, what?

I know. It's just always, we're like in our own island. It's Rana and Ryan. I'm just like, it's only three months. You said Sparkle lives is coming. Wait, it's the lighting guy.

The video guy. It's our video guy, actually. You guys are SummerHath? Raida's like always going to be in HD and sorry, you're going to be in like SD. What do you mean? Oh, because he like, oh, yeah.

No, sometimes we'll get back hype videos. I'm like, can I be in it? It's like the, I'm not trying to have an ego, but it's like the love actually wedding video and it's all like actually's like I planned the live shows and I'm like well I hired Ryan's well actually one time this we love Ryan obviously but one time we did get a video back and it was just really too much on one stripper like where we were like Ryan is there something you need to tell us it was all this one was all Donnie and it was very love actually where we were like Ryan no one else is in the shot it's just like well the first video we weren't even in it it was just the Boston Celtics cheerleaders

we weren't even in the video how can you blame him it's funny to get back a video and like I give the notes mostly. I run them all by Iran and I have to be like, can you put me in it more? It sounds like such an ego thing, but it's a real imbalance. It's that striking. Does he know that there's this,

because he's watching these episodes? Doesn't he watch the episodes? He's part of the show. Every time he feels it, I'm like, I'm in love with him. This is our videographer. So why is there nothing there? We'll get emails about it and people will be like,

Brian's so hot. And I'm like, I'll murder you. Is he married? It's a long story. You never know what can happen. I mean, don't encourage me. And my delusions. Okay, sorry.

I don't know what else to say. It's everyone's question. I don't know. Ryan, why not? Maybe he's gay. Let's bring you on the show. Dating people that you work with, I've always really liked because you see them in these very, like, high stress environments. You can see how they, like, interact with people, friends, coworkers, how they do their job.

Are they dedicated to it? I've always been really attracted to people that work really hard. That turns me on. I mean, totally. But we always say, I mean, I go back to an episode we had with this author, John Berger, so many years ago. so many years ago of just like how to get off the apps and like stop dating strangers, you know? Yeah. He has kind of like a however many step program.

And one was like, think about people you already know. It doesn't have to be you guys, which is like, you know, so ideal and it's working so great for you. But we always talk about like, is there anybody I already know that someone that's been in my orbit this whole time? I always say you meet the people you know. And like when people and my friends are like people are like people are talking about dating or asking for dating advice, I think that's the number one thing. You meet the people you know. I know a lot of people that met at a wedding a lot. They got married and, like, that met their friends.

My brother and my sister-in-law, they're two best friends. He met each other at my brother's wedding and they're married now. But by the way, it makes sense beyond just like a location thing. It's like your friend group and your community is attracting people with like-minded interest and like-minded value systems. And it's like, really, we should really think the NBC page program for vetting kind of the elite intellectuals that wanted to go into the entertainment industry. media and they kind of whittled this field down and there was one other lesbian and we both didn't choose her sorry Miriam and we chose each other you know but I will add something that I really appreciated about how our relationship started was the fact that not only we had that initial conversation but I remember you saying to me you're like just promise me that you will be consistent with me and I have because of you really I value consistency so much more

I wouldn't have named it. What do you do that is not consistent previously about you? Well, I'm not showing up like that. I would say a lot of things. I mean, just saying you'd get married and then saying actually no, I won't. No, I'm saying.

Yeah, that's a pretty big inconsistency. I think more so what I'm talking about is in the early stages of dating. Yes. When you don't feel safe, the thing that makes you feel safe, even if you're saying I'm not ready for a relationship, whatever it is. If you show up with consistency, you feel safe.

Yeah. It's such a word we don't use. enough in terms of relationships. It's certainly not a sexy word. Yeah. Like, what's the best thing you love about your partner? He's consistent. It does not sound sexy, but we've talked about it with other experts on our show, too. It's, like, really important. Like, I think if we listen to ourselves talk about and other people talk about healthy relationships, like, that's an underlying theme. Yeah. I never wake up and don't have, like, a good morning message from my partner. Like, there's certain things. I'm like, it all boils down a consistency and you're so right that it creates the security. I can deal with most

things if you're consistent. I think about a friend of mine, she's dating somebody in med school. And she's like, I don't really hear from him during the day. And I'm like, I can never deal with that. And she's like, I hear from every night. We talk for an hour and a half. We catch up on our entire day. And I'm like, oh, it's consistent.

You can depend on this. Yeah. Depend every day. Everybody I've been really in love with, I know that they're going to show up for the things they say they're going to. They're never going to pull the rug out from under me except for my fiancee who left me. Rain is like, when do I get to talk about my broken things? Well, I've had the floor.

But aren't you grateful that that relationship didn't? I mean, come on. This is like, yeah. That relationship was great until it ended. That really was a person that taught me what it really felt like to be loved, what it really felt like to have somebody show up for you all the time. And actually for three and a half years, be very consistent, be a teammate, be loving. Like, he taught me what it felt like to truly be a priority to a person.

And when it ended, I thought I was going to die. I really did. I was in so much pain. I couldn't imagine it ever ending. but looking back now, thinking about him being my partner today, almost 10 years later, I'm just like that would not have been a good long-term partner. I don't know if I even evaluated it like that. Like, how do you really think about money?

When do you really want to have children? I just, I didn't ask myself those questions. I mean, who's asking those questions at 20? But I think that's like the thing that an engagement was for me, which sometimes you just don't know how to do it until that commitment is hanging and looming and maybe has a date and you're moving towards it. And then you finally kind of like... Some of us need a gun to our head.

Yeah. And you finally start to figure out, like, what do I want in a long-term partner? And what does that look like? And what does that feel like? And what do we want for, like, we're making this promise. I want to be able to make good on it. And for me, maybe for you too, Raina, I was like, I just don't think like a man is forever for me. Like men had such impermanence. It was like the thing that flipped for me that I started to be able to envision women as my long-term partner. Can I add something to that? Yeah. That you always say about your sexual. is that Lauren's always like, she's like, I could date a man, just not for a long time. Temporarily. Which I'm like, and then we go back and forth, we laugh about like how to identify.

Because I kind of get that too. I'm like, yeah, like I could have a few months. Like, I mean, sure. I like that you said. I like that because it was not until I got engaged that I, the thought never crossed my mind of like, you're now a reflection of me completely. Everything you do reflects upon me,

every decision you make affects me now. Every dollar you spend will affect my future. Oh my God, you're a reflection of me. You better like that fucking affection. I just didn't think about it until we got engaged. But for you, it sounds like it was almost a reflection upon you of like, I have to do the man forever. Like, can we talk about like unpacking that for yourself a little bit?

Like how you came to the conclusion that you didn't want to be in that engagement? And was it him or men? Both. Okay, both. Yeah. It's hard to like untangle those things, right? Like if it was going to be a man, it would have been him, probably. How do you fucking know?

Yeah. How do you? Like, it just. wasn't that and everyone has their theories and you know a lot of my friends would be like we knew like you were never going to end up with a man now after that like they you know seeing you outside of this relationship yeah a lot of my friends really affirm me in our relationship yeah and like feel like oh this really fits you and is what I like saw for you but we were talking about this earlier that like how do you listen to your intuition and oh and remember we saw that like my old journal where

I had literally, I had literally written, I have this, like, deep beer that I would be happier with a woman. And like, is that because I'm scared of this or is that because I forget what I said in that? But I was swirling around to finally saying out loud. You are pinning it on, is this my issue with long-term monogamy? Yeah, yeah. Instead of confronting, this might be, and I think a lot of people do this. And it's not to say, again, the monogamy conversation, not to say it's wrong to be non-monogamous or anything like. like that. But sometimes it's easier to pin issues you have with yourself or things you haven't

reconciled with yourself or with your relationship on social constructs like relationship orientation or I have an issue with marriage. And it's like, well, you're a lesbian and you're with like whatever it is. You know, it's like, again, I'm not assigning this to either of you. But like, I don't want to have kids. It's like, well, you hate the person you're with. Whatever. Different kind of iterations of that. I find this discussion like so interesting and like hard for some people to process. there's certain things marriage like you said certain constructs kids that you really got to figure out if you're unsure about them because of the person you're with you know like i have one friend and i think she's kind of convinced herself she doesn't want kids and i just think you don't want kids with this guy i don't need to get too much deeply into it for me i just know it doesn't matter who does just give her first and last name but there's certain things you see this happen all the time you see people kind of have certain anxieties and being unsure about things and then they just end up with the right person and those weren't even an issue i see i this so much, I feel it so much for myself, but I see it with you and your boyfriend of just like when you find this love that feels really right, it like becomes illuminating and

like possibility just opens up. Like you find this person and like suddenly our relationship feels like it turns you up to a 12, which is what we're talking about. But in the wrong relationship or maybe just the relationship that's less right, not that it's wrong or maybe it made sense at that time. It's like constantly, it feels stressful of like how, how can I squeeze myself into this thing? Or how many concessions can I make? Or I can adjust and I can kind of carry this weight or shoulder this burden. And I feel being in this relationship, I can see how wrong I got it so many times.

Like I remember feeling like I'm just negotiating with myself. Like it's okay that he's not that smart. I have friends that are smart. Oh, 100%. It's okay that I don't really want to ask this person for advice about work because I have tons of friends around me that are good at business and I'll just ask them, you know? It makes sense that I don't want to live with the person that I love. Like, you know, whatever.

And it doesn't mean I still don't like. like space or whatever. It doesn't, it just makes everything easier. I think that like we've learned that commitment can and should come easy. Consistency and ease. I'm like relationships should be so easy. The first word should be easy. At least at the beginning. They should just be easy at the beginning. Yeah. You know, they should be easy. I shouldn't have to counsel all of my friends if like I'm making the right choice. What do you think of them? Is it good? Like I should be able to ideally over a dinner be like, I want to choose into this

because it makes more sense to say yes to this than not. Like, it just in so many ways, you know. Can we finish your story? Lauren. Yeah. I love what you said, Allie, by the way. Thanks. Lauren, when you were like, I don't know if this is right,

did you start breadcrumbing the information to him? Or did you have like a, this is over? I didn't have a plan. I mean, at that point, I just, like, cracked open. Those, like, months still kind of feel like a blackout. Like, I just, I got a therapist and I started talking to like my friends and family more honestly than I ever had.

I started talking to myself more honestly than I ever had. I think that's a whole piece of it too of like really just recognizing it and you and making the commitment to yourself to explore it. And that started to outweigh having said yes one time. I always told myself like you can be wrong. You know, you can go back. You can change your mind. You can change your mind.

You can always, you can change your mind. But I knew that I, at the very least, had to say, like, I can't get married on that day. I can't get married to you right now. I have to explore my sexuality. And that's, like, all I know. And, you know, people around me started to affirm that. And I started to articulate that to him. And at that point, he said you're either in or you're out.

This sounds like you're out. And I am very grateful that it was so black and white because that's, what I needed. I just needed to. Right. And the alternative, which many people will go down that path is, okay, well, why don't you get a girlfriend and we'll kind of push the date? And then you can kind of punt around in limbo for 16 months.

And I don't know that that gets anywhere. No, I'm so grateful that it was like right then and there. It was just like new chapter and off I went. I will add that like this comes up a lot when you hear about women that previously identify a straight that started exploring their sexuality. who don't want to fully let go of whether it's some relationship with a man or their identity as whatever it is,

they kind of want to hold on to it and also explore. And it doesn't always work. And the quote that I always come back to is the space for what you deserve is already filled with what you've settled for instead. Where it's like you don't get to explore, you don't get to meet the girl,

you never find the right guy when you're holding on to this thing that's a 50% or 75% or it's a maybe or probably it's filled. So when you want to explore, it's like you can't really explore when you're like kind of committed to something. Totally. What a sage of advice, Sally. I love it.

I said to actually at the beginning of the year, like my goal for the year is there's two relationships in particular that I was really leaning into. And I think they were stopping me from really exploring at all whether I wanted to have a real romantic relationship that could make me happy. And I like really had to let those things go. and it was really important to me. Yeah. And I still talk to Ryan like once a month. Actually. I was like, are we going to say that it's the thing from before?

It's not every day anymore. I'm dying. I wasn't going to blast you though. I was going to let you finish the sentiment. I'm going to let you finish first. It goes for not just relationships with people, right? It's like the professional thing you want or whatever it is you're aspiring to in your personal life.

Just like stop filling. the space energetically with shit that's like not doing it. I do like it to relate it to career too. Yeah. And that's why like it's such a blessing to get fired sometimes. Totally. I figured who's writing this book. I wish I could remember this. And it's like all the cool girls get fired or something. I don't know. I like love the title. Yeah. And I was like if you talked to so many people that like had already had one foot out the door and then got fired and are like could not be more thriving. Right. In their life. Like someone just did it for you. Which I love what you said. Two things of like that you were like this is all I know right now. This is just I cannot commit to this date. I want to explore women.

Like, I can't really say much more. And you had, like, the most perfect receiver being like, uh, that's in or out. You know what I mean? Because he could have done the other, you know? Right. I am really grateful. Like, I, you know, like that. What's he up to?

And he will put his handle in the episode. Is he single? What have you been? I don't think he's not single. You set a sentence that I think is going to release a lot of people from a lot of, like, shame and guilt, which is like, saying yes, one time should not be this, like, sentence for the rest of my life. I mean, if you have kids, it is.

But, yeah. Otherwise, like, I agreed to marry. What do we always say? You can send those back to. You can drop many people abandon their children. Men in particular love to abandon their children. So men do it all the time. All right. Well, adopt, don't shop. You know. Okay.

This is really an unexpected episode. And we, I just, I love this. Fantastic. You both have been just, like, so open and honest. And, Ali, we've known you a long time. time. We just love seeing you happy. I love you guys. I just want this is my family. This is my family in L.A. Oh my God. We need to play another trip. We used to travel the world.

We've traveled with Allie a lot. Yeah, we ran into her in Greece and her sisters. And then we ran into each other in Portugal. I went to the wrong night. We're going to we're going to. We have to book our flights. We have to book it. Yeah. We'll be there. We'll be there. Oh, we're just saying if you're going. Yeah. I know. We're just living Lovina Loka, you know, with you. Are you driving? Are we doing Mexico? For, I don't know. I'm down any time. Yeah, let's go. Let's do it. We'll talk about offline. Allie, you follow Alie.

We are one of the most insightful, funny comedians. I just, I love your work. I love everything you do. Oh, thank you. Where can people come find you? I'm at Ali Colbert, A-L-I Colbert with A-K on everything. So my shows, my podcasting journey, everything's on there. Stay tuned.

Okay. And you'll be more doing shows in New York. Yeah. Fortunately for us. Yeah. At the salary? I go back and forth. Sometimes the seller.

Yeah. Okay. She'll be here too. Yeah. All right. Let's all head up to Raina's guest suites. Stay at each other. Yeah.

Jesus Christ. All right, guys, happy pride. And you can find us at Girls GottaEat.com, get those tour tickets. Maybe we'll bring Allie out for the New York show or one or another, both you guys. Girls Got Eat.com, Girls Got E Podcast, Instagram and TikTok.

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