Girls Gotta Eat - Finding Your Greatest Strength with Peloton's Tunde Oyeneyin

Episode Date: January 18, 2021

The positive vibes are off the charts in this episode with Peloton instructor, founder of S.P.E.A.K., and overall inspirational human Tunde Oyeneyin. She shares her fitness journey/body transformation..., tips for finding the best workout for you and staying motivated, and why your mind is your strongest muscle. Tunde also opens up about losing family members and how she healed and propelled herself to where she is today. And we're talking about Beyoncé, Rihanna, and why a red lip can improve your dating life. We're also sharing our thoughts on the Sex and the City reboot. Enjoy! Follow Tunde on Instagram @Tune2Tunde and learn more about S.P.E.A.K. at SpeakTunde.com. Follow us @GirlsGottaEatPodcast, Rayna @Rayna.Greenberg, and Ashley @AshHess. Check our website for show dates and merchandise. Thank you to our partners this week: Daily Harvest: Get $25 off your first box at dailyharvest.com, code GGE. Feals: Become a member at feals.com/gge and get 50% off your first order + free shipping. Function of Beauty: Go to functionofbeauty.com/gge to take your 4-part hair profile quiz and save 20% on your first haircare order. Ritual: Get 10% off during your first 3 months at ritual.com/gge. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You forget to just enjoy where you are. Like, you built everything around you. You built this for you. Like, at what point do you say, oh, my gosh, like, look at what I've done. Welcome back to another episode of Girls Got to Eat. Welcome back to a second edition of 2020. Oh, my God. Welcome back to the never-ending apocalypse.
Starting point is 00:00:35 It's been a wild ride. It's a pun of us. But we have good stuff to announce today that we'll brighten up. It's going to be a roller coaster. 2020 part two. Oh, my God. Did you see that meme that was like, well played December 37th, 2020? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:00:52 December 2020, it stays undefeated. I love what do you say it stays undefeated. I say it's 2021 stays undefeated. This year is something else. I will say that. We lost Kim and Kanye. I can't stop saying. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:01:05 I literally don't care. That's like the least I care about. I know. Sam. I was catching him on Bean Dad last night. What? I don't know, girl. Bean Dad?
Starting point is 00:01:11 Bean Dad was like the first villain of 2021. I don't know about this? Just Google it. The Chicago bean? No. He ate beans. He like, just look it up. I don't know the energy.
Starting point is 00:01:21 He looked so sad. Oh, no. Okay. All right. Well, we've kicked it off at a high note. Wow. Sorry, guys. We'll bring it up.
Starting point is 00:01:28 We have a big announcement. Okay. Let's just come out hot and announce our next live show. We're doing it for Valentine's. Yep. You are my Valentine for the fourth year in a row. I know. You know what?
Starting point is 00:01:42 February, man. Listen, it's, we're going strong. I have coming up on three years. I've been thinking. I've spent Valentine's Day with you every year for three years. Okay. Well, we'll talk about that at the show. We'll recap all the special times.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Do you remember being at a bar in Vancouver? Yeah. Looking at all the other couples judging them, no one was talking. We were having the most fun of any couple in there. A hundred percent. No, everyone was mad. They had to be there. No one was talking. I know.
Starting point is 00:02:09 And then last year we were on a plane in first class, just holding hands on our way to Cali. What? Yes. What? No, I was in the back of the plane. Never ride. Wait, hold on. What was, where were we going?
Starting point is 00:02:21 We're going to do a show in San Diego and then L.A. and then the best vacation of your life, Australia. Wait, what am I talking about? Yes, last Valentine's Day, I woke up, I went to brunch, I had sex, I got lightly choked, and then we missed our flight. Listen, we'll talk about this. We'll talk about this when we're all at the show. We'll share some of y'all's Valentine's experiences. We have so much fun stuff planned.
Starting point is 00:02:45 We have special guests. Of course. This is going to be epic. Like, it's going to be so much fun. It's going to be Thursday, February 11th. You guys can get tickets on our website. If you have questions, always, of course, email the ticketing website, but just go ahead, click that. You'll get a code for the show, one code per person. But guys, you know, start having those Valentine's Day parties, invite your friends over. And here, date night? Yes. And we did this because we were originally like, let's do a Galentine's Day show,
Starting point is 00:03:15 like, you know, single ladies, whatever. And then it was like, we realized, how much of you watch this with your partners and like your boyfriends, your girlfriends, whatever. And so we were like, let's just do it prior to Valentine's Day. So as always, you, the show, we'd love that we would prefer you watch it live, have your little small gatherings
Starting point is 00:03:33 with your household, like make your Sharkochi boards, all the things. But you will be able to have access like usually up to a week after. So at least through actual Valentine's Day, potentially longer. We never really know for sure. We'll announce more as in the coming weeks. But so February,
Starting point is 00:03:49 11th is a Thursday. Watch it that Friday night. Watch it Saturday night. Watch it on Valentine's Day. Like whenever you guys want to watch it. No, you guys watch it. Okay. You don't watch it more than.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Fuck after. You do, listen, you do want to watch it live because we'll get spoilers and you'll see all the guests we have and stuff because we're not holding back and we don't care. We're going to share your Instagram stories in the moment. So sorry.
Starting point is 00:04:06 But if you can't, if you can't make it, you have to work, whatever it is. You live in a different country. It's 4 a.m. Like, whatever. You should wake up if you're a true fan if you're not a fake fan.
Starting point is 00:04:14 But like just you will have some access afterwards, but just get those tickets now, as always, and scoop them up and start tagging us in your Instagram stories. This is, this show is going to be lit. We are so excited, guys. And just so you guys have some fashion for the show, we have new merch coming out. We asked you guys what you wanted to see. So we have vibes only. Go off.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Hear me out. We're doing all of it. We might have some fun stuff. It is inauguration week. We might have some fun stuff for that. Yeah. But you guys can keep an eye out for that on our Instagram. obviously our website will announce when all of it is out.
Starting point is 00:04:45 We really cool, fun stuff. Just encouraged by what you guys want to see. Yeah. So this is just a tease. It's probably not out yet. Maybe. We don't know. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Get excited. Get excited. You know, listen, it's our company. We'll release. What else? Do you have to be excited about? Literally nothing. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Okay. Let's just address this up top. You know, kind of what's happening in the world. We didn't discuss it last week. We had already recorded. We were actually recording when a lot of things were actually happening. So, I mean, last week, We had actually recorded something that we were so excited about the Senate race in Georgia,
Starting point is 00:05:18 still want to hype that. I mean, we're so excited about what happened in Georgia with John Osoff and Reverend Warnock. So that was incredible. You know, I feel so close to Georgia. I lived in Atlanta for 10 years. Such a historical thing that happened down there. But, you know, the same day, the next day, a lot of other shit went down. And I think that we're all familiar.
Starting point is 00:05:37 It's changing day by day. You know, as Rain and I sit here and record now, impeachment proceedings have started. So this could be totally different by the time Monday rolls around. And, you know, we always want to tell you guys how we feel about things. We think, you know, we want to encourage calls to action when we can, especially around the voting and things like that. You know, that's what we were talking about a lot closer to the election. And I mean, when things like this happen, of course, we want to share things, how we feel and what we're passionate about. But there are so many other great resources to check as well.
Starting point is 00:06:08 So it's like we, you know, I think a lot of like, quote unquote, influencers and personalities are getting hit with like, talk about this, talk about this, why haven't you talked about this? And it's like, everybody take a breath. You know, there's so many people that are sharing the facts and what's out there. My favorite follow recently is Jessica Yellen. Jessica, Y-E-L-L-L-I-N. Her hashtag is news, not noise. She's incredible. I co-sign everything she says. Just go follow her and see what she's posting about. So I'll share my feelings in a moment, but I will toss it to you. I feel really honored that you guys want to get this information from us. It's important to you that we talk about these things. Some people said, why didn't you address
Starting point is 00:06:43 what happened last week. And it feels like a real honor. It has held me to a higher standard to try to get all the facts, check all types of different resources for this information. You know that every day like I get up. I try to listen to the daily by the New York Times up first by NPR. I think they have really good non-biased information with experts. It's really important to me to learn that stuff. Like Ashley said, I'm not a political expert or commentator, but it is really such an honor that you guys want this information. Of course, we're disappointed and upset by the things that you guys are disappointed and upset by. Yeah. I mean, I'll just speak on it a little bit. I mean, what's happening right now is like so disgusting and like scary, honestly.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Like there are domestic terrorists and white supremacist in this country and they have been emboldened and encouraged by the president of the United States. And it's so sickening and it's so terrifying. And it's been going on for four fucking years. And this didn't happen overnight. You know, this was the guy that called Nazis good people a couple years ago. You know, like he's been this complete racist, misogynist, narcissistic, pathological line piece of shit this entire time. And people voted for that. And other lawmakers have supported
Starting point is 00:07:46 him, whether they shared his views or they tossed their morals aside so they could kiss his ass. And this was a full-blown attack on our country from the inside. This is like how fascist government start. This is how people overthrow the government. This is how people die. Like what happened in this country is horrifying. And I mean, it goes about saying, I want all these people thrown in jail. I'm like loving watching them on the no-fly list. And and they get arrested. And, you know, I want, I want Trump impeached. I want these companies just to stop supporting the Republican Party like they have been.
Starting point is 00:08:20 And I want to see action taken against the leaders that, like, encourage this and kept up this false narrative about a stolen election and really emboldened all these insurrectionists within our own country. Yes. And listen, it's not enough to me that all these people have finally come forward. They're stepping down. They've said something that all of these social media companies have started to, like, take away his power. It's not enough. It wasn't enough 12 days before he was.
Starting point is 00:08:42 out of the White House. I don't care if you resigned, even though you were already out, all these cabinet members resigned. They were out of a job in 12 days anyways. Taking the stand is too little too late. What we can do is hold our lawmakers responsible. A lot of these people only stood up and did what they did because he was on his way out the door and they thought that that's what their constituents wanted. So they just supported him. Yeah, you've just seen people that have the zero moral code. Like they'll just go with whatever. It's all, it's like just whatever benefits them in the moment or what they think will benefit them in the moment. And I mean, I think you know, we luckily, hopefully, you know, are going to move forward.
Starting point is 00:09:17 We have progressive people in every area of the government in the White House and the Senate and the House majority. And so I hope that we're on the right track. I'm just, I'm losing sleep. I'm worried about what's going to happen. I'm not trying to be all doomsday, but like I'd rather be prepared and safe and you guys stay safe and we don't go, don't be in D.C. You know, if you can, if you can. And our friends in D.C., please stay safe. Our friends in any big city, any capital cities, like, whatever, I just don't know. And I think that we should take it seriously. Yeah. And we just, we wanted to hop on here and denounce the disgusting things that have happened. I want to denounce all the companies that decided to ride in on a white horse in the last five minutes of
Starting point is 00:09:54 this presidency. Fuck you. Fuck you. And act like you have done something good for this country. Fuck you, Mark Zuckerberg for taking him out of Facebook now. Whatever. I'll pop off for an hour about this. But, you know, it's not enough. It's not enough when any of these people have done. They've just denounce this in the last hour. We need to hold our lawmakers accountable. We just want you guys to stay safe, stay informed, you know, talk to your family and friends, have these conversations and just, you know, hopefully we'll have a better future. You and I, we always say, like, people can change, people, we want to celebrate change in progress, but like, you fucking knew. You knew it. You knew what he was doing. You, like, we all knew it. It was so blatant. You know what I mean? And you still waited.
Starting point is 00:10:34 And you still, like, you knew better is what I'm saying. You didn't, you know, again, I can't stress enough. people can always change. Some of these people that stormed the Capitol building, I'm not welcoming to come sit with me right now. That's just not who I am. That might be who Sarah Silverman is. But if they change down the road, great. But it's the people that knew all along. These aren't the people that have been brainwashed by Trump. These are the lawmakers and the companies and the Zuckerbergs and all these people that
Starting point is 00:11:00 like you did know better and you choose to go against what you knew was right. And in the very last hour, like you just said, like decided to do the right thing. And I love to, this quote. I think it was on the screen when Don Lemon was talking. It was like, we shouldn't praise people that decided to do the right thing one day when they did the wrong thing every other day. Yeah. And also when they did the, like, I just think that this should help you think about in the future who you vote for more because how many of these senators didn't denounce the president until there were people literally breaking into their offices and taking selfies at their desks,
Starting point is 00:11:31 you know, until this actually came to their literal front door. How much did they support their constituents and how much do they keep you safe and do for you and do for you and stick up for you because you didn't have a voice and they were your voice. All these people stood up because they were inconvenienced. Right. Yeah. And I mean, I know you guys want me to talk about dusty ass Mitch McConnell. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I mean, I'm not like, go Mitch. He did something human, you know, for once. He stood up for what was right once. He's not against the impeachment proceeding. So, okay, go off Mitch. Like, whatever. He's still not the biggest piece of garbage on the planet, which is clearly Tommy Loren.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Oh. Did you see she went after Mitch? She was like, Mitch, you're not going to get reelected. And they were like, bitch, he's 78 and he just got elected. He's about to retire. You are so dumb. And she used the wrong version of your two. I was like, drag her.
Starting point is 00:12:21 I just tell you, when something terrible happens to this country, I go to her Instagram first. I'm like, what is this human piece of steaming dog shit going to say to just justify this today? And she always finds a way. Well, she, you know, and this isn't us. This is us. These people are domestic terrorists. these people, either they're the actual domestic terrorists that are breaking into the capital
Starting point is 00:12:40 or they are emboldening them. They're not even with you though. That's just somebody who sits behind a computer screen and is like, kill everybody, but you go deal with that. I'll be with you, but not physically. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Sex and the city. I would like to denounce that this is even happening with Kim Cottrell. I'm glad that we have a platform to talk about the most important message of our time, which is that I don't even care about this without Kim Cottrell. Don't care.
Starting point is 00:13:05 So if you, have been living under Iraq, or I don't know, preoccupied with what's going on in the country, which is totally acceptable. Sex and City is doing a reboot. It's not even called Sex and the City because it can't be called Sex and the City because it's about three married ladies. She's called the City. No, it's called a and just like that. So, yeah, it's going to be on HBO Max. Obviously, that would be so shady if they just like moves on Netflix. They were just like Hulu. Ashley's favorite platform where there's all the first season shows. It takes me 10 minutes to even find it within the interface. Okay. So Samantha's not going to be in it. I'm not going to use their,
Starting point is 00:13:42 I'm using their, uh, sex, their, their character. Samantha Jones is not there. Um, you know, what I think, I think that you and I talk a lot about like Miranda because like the joke with Miranda is that we all like hated Miranda when we were watching it when we were 20 years ago or 15 years ago, 10 years ago, whatever. And then like we realized we like loved Miranda. I still at the end of the day, Samantha is the snack head of the bunch. Like Samantha is the most sex positive. She's the most Girls got to eat approved character. She's the best one. All the crazy sex step came from Samantha.
Starting point is 00:14:13 The normalization. She dated a woman just out of nowhere. She had sex for her pleasure with whoever she wanted her orgasm was always a priority. And on top of that, I relate with Samantha with her. She was dating younger guys, even though I'm not doing that anymore. And she didn't want to have children. And she chose herself over a relationship. And I think that goes without saying that she's the most closely aligned with what we do for a living.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I would say like if I looked at who changed my life the most, growing up, like that gave me permission to do certain things that I never would have done. It probably is the character of Samantha Jones. Yes, I'm like a Miranda Stan. I love her and I love the message. But the person that really made me think about the world differently wasn't like this girl who would do New York and bought Louvittons writing one one column a week. It was Samantha Jones.
Starting point is 00:14:54 It's Samantha Jones. And so I don't know how they're going to address it. Like they need to address it. I mean, and Samantha, I mean, I love Kim Cattrol. She's like, it's over, guys. over. Maybe cast me with a woman of color. Just throw somebody else in there.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Give a little diversity of the show. I feel the same in that it's over. So like, you know me. I love the first movie. Of course, some of it hasn't aged, but it's an older movie that was like 08. The second movie was garbage. I pretend it doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:15:25 So to me, the whole series ended with the end of the first movie. The second movie was absolute garbage. And I think that should have let us all know that like, this is over. Like, its time has passed. That being said, Of course I'm going to watch it. I don't want to shit on it.
Starting point is 00:15:39 I like the idea of a show about women in their 50s. I just love the normalizing of like these three friends and they're in their 50s and they're living their best life, assuming that's going to be the tone. So I like that. I just don't know what the tone is going to be. I'm excited to see. I don't want to shit all over it. I hate this man that's not a part of it. I kind of feel like, again, the series is over for me, but I want to see what they do with it.
Starting point is 00:16:01 But like, I don't know. It's like, it was sex in the city. It was these women in their 30s and their 40s running around the city and like, you know, I don't, Carrie's not going to be in a fucking bra running around Manhattan. Like, that's what I love, you know. My hope is that it is this continuation of like,
Starting point is 00:16:18 Carrie is one of the few characters and Samantha that like didn't have children that I saw represented like on television. It's just like she had this fulfilling life. She didn't have kids. So like maybe they'll really lean into that. Because like I think that, you know, one person said this to me out of the hundreds of emails we got from our beautiful episode about not having kids,
Starting point is 00:16:35 but one person was like, well, life is good now, but like, what about your 50s? And I would love to see representations of women in their 50s that have these amazing lives without kids because there's so much more you can do. I just, again, that's why I have mixed feelings. I love the idea of a show about these friends in their 50s, living great lives and happy, fulfilling lives, especially if some of them, if one of them or, you know, whoever doesn't have children. But like, it's just like sex and cities. This isn't how I want to remember it. You know, I just, it's not the same show. And also, like, is, Big still in it. Like for a minute, they were talking about killing him off. And I'm not trying to get morbid here. I would like Big to die and carry to date again. And that's what I want to see is Big dies carries this hot little widow. She's out in the Manhattan dating men. And she's dating 30 year olds and she's dating 40 year olds and she's dating 40 year olds and she's dating divorcees and other widows. And like, that's the show I want. Big gone. And maybe she can find somebody who's not avoidant
Starting point is 00:17:34 and a complete fuck boy. The worst message, listen. You guys go, go back and listen to our fuck you, Carrie Bradshaw episode. It's one of my favorites,
Starting point is 00:17:41 one of our earliest episodes. You can go back and find it. He and their relationship were one of the worst messages to women we have ever seen. And then the movie, the movie. He leaves her at the altar
Starting point is 00:17:50 and he sends, what, like four emails and she takes them back? Literally the least effort of all time ever in email. Yeah. And we, again,
Starting point is 00:17:58 we deep dove on all this. Fuck you, Carrie Bradshaw is a 2018 episode. Just scroll down. You'll see it. It'll just pop, outy. Fuck you, Carrie Bradshaw's title. Some of our best work still to date. Our first bonus episode?
Starting point is 00:18:09 I think so. I remember editing and just like coming over myself, if I'm so proud of us. But we deep dove on all this. And so, you know, Carrie, she can have some redemption if she breaks up with bigger, he dies and she finds somebody new. That's all I'm, that's all I care about. Who wants to watch this relationship? I don't want to want to, I'm done with this relationship. Yeah. It's 2021. We're getting treated better. Yeah. I'm done with it. And I mean, it's just, it's like, I watch Sex and City still to this day. It's always.
Starting point is 00:18:34 on. It's reruns are always on and you just relate to them more than ever. Like, you know, I, I started watching the show when I was, what, in my, in my 20s, I guess, early 20s, like, like late teens even, it came out maybe. And so then it was like, then I was their age. You know what I mean? And then I was, and then it was like, and then it was like, so much more relatable. And I was like, oh my God, I feel this in such a deep level. Like, the show is actually so realistic. I'm dating some of these men. We've, we've dated these men, you know? And it's like, it's just not going to be as relatable to me anymore, that women that are in their 50s and to, you know, some of them that have children, they're married.
Starting point is 00:19:08 So it's just, it's less relatable. And that's not to say that I'm not glad they're doing it because I still, I like the, I like the concept. I mean, listen, we're going to watch it. We're going to watch it. But it's just like, are we going to feel like, I just want to see Carrie like put on a bra and go to the bodega. Well, listen, you know.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Remember when she wore the bra of the bodega? Yeah. Think about all the time. I think about all of her. Oh, it's all the time. Like, I just, I mean, you know that like, I mean, you know that like, I think you're more sympathetic to, you're more sympathetic to reboots. I don't want any of them.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Like, I don't want Save by the Bell reboot. I don't want 9-2-0 reboot. Like, let's make new shows. And I don't even mind. I kind of think it's cute when they, like, take the old characters and they're suddenly, like, the principal of school or something. But I don't know. Make a new show and call it something different.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I'm just not like a huge reboot person. 100% on you. I'm with you. I think we talked to this before. Like, give us, like, you know, I think men have a lower standard of entertainment so they can watch Batman every fucking year with a different cast, like, whatever. But, like, I think women deserve more. And I, you know, I, that's why the Charlie's Angels, like,
Starting point is 00:20:03 was a fucking flop because it was like nobody wanted it, you know, the third one. Like the second one with Cameron Diaz and Lucy Lou like, Andrew Barrymore, like great. But like the other one they just made recently, like it flopped to the box office because no one asked for. You didn't even know what it's. So I do think we like deserve new content. I think there's so many incredible shows. Like we talk about this. All these incredible shows are coming out. Like we have the capacity. We have the creatives. We have everything at our fingertips to make great new shows. Like look at fucking Bridgeton. But yeah, like no one wanted this. Why did you do this? And we would probably want it if Samantha was in it.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Because I do want to see Samantha and what she's doing now. She's the only one I fucking care about. Honestly, you burned it to the ground for me after the first movie and the second one is an offense to my life. Raina? I forgot it even happened.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Can I tell you that? I don't know if I ever said this in the podcast. I watched the first movie, Sex and City, the first, the movie, three times in the theater. You just stayed? I went to the theater. No, like not in one day.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I saw it once with my, my, my, my old boss. I had this great boss when I worked in PR. She brought us, like, in the middle of the day, the day it came out. Then I saw it with my, like, friends, my, my friends, my, my friend's friends. I mean, my work friends. And then I saw it with a guy I was dating. I saw it three times in the theater. And then I've probably seen it, I don't know, 67 times since. Yeah, me too. The second one, I walked out that theater and I was like, I'm going to pretend that never happened. I, like, if I could erase my memory, like, men in black style, I would pretend that
Starting point is 00:21:25 never happened. I think I did do that. I think, like, you know, you black out memories in your childhood. They were, like, traumatic. You know, I'm going to go to therapy one day, and I'm to be like, oh my God, I remember it. I remember that that happened to me. Okay. Well, we will let you know what we think about it when it comes out. I do have one more wreck for you guys. Also on HBO Max, because I can get it now
Starting point is 00:21:44 on Roku as of like last week. I watched The Und Doing last night. I watched all six episodes. I'm very excited for you to see it. It's a, it really is a fantastic show. It's six one-hour episodes. Nicole Kidman is this like Upper East Side, Rich, married to a doctor. She's a therapist.
Starting point is 00:22:00 There is a murder of a parent in her children's school, this Upper East Side School. It happens in the first, like, 10 minutes of the show. So there's not like a... And then the six episodes are about who did it. So there's all this really great character development, a lot of emotions.
Starting point is 00:22:15 I feel like it's really realistic. And finding out that your husband is not who you think that they are. And, you know, certain friends are not who you think that they are. And I thought it was really well done. And really... I'm actually, like, I might watch it again. I thought it was really fantastically done. So I'm not surprised.
Starting point is 00:22:28 I actually haven't heard anyone that didn't love it. like my parents, both of my parents, like everybody I've ever talked to. So I will tell you I am like weirdly saving it. Like I think it's like I have this thing that I haven't watched yet. And I'm just like I want to save it for like the right moment. So I do plan on watching it. What I started was a recommendation from some of our listeners after we've, I feel like they have a feel for what I like after all the recommendations.
Starting point is 00:22:49 And they recommended the wilds on Amazon. It's Amazon show. And it's this group of high school girls that they're playing wrecks. And they're on this deserted island. and then I really don't want to get anything away. There's a crazy twist, and it's a little darker. It's not funny. It's not like light and funny.
Starting point is 00:23:08 It's shot really dark too. Like I had to turn all the lights down in my apartment just like see what's going on. But I'm like, I have three episodes in. Every episode's told from one of the different girls' point of view. And I'm like really into it. Yeah. So they sit them down.
Starting point is 00:23:20 They're kind of being like, not interrogated. They're being questioned on like what the fuck happened. And you'll see why. But thank you guys that recommended that to me. I am enjoying it. Cool. I think we have like a good recommendation slide. for this coming week.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Okay. We'll throw Bridgerton in there too. Okay. The only other thing, I do have a date tonight. He just confirmed that we're good for seven. I love that you always say allegedly, but I'm excited. Well, I say allegedly until I'm there face to face with a person because you just never know.
Starting point is 00:23:46 No, this is a person that is older than me. Listen, there's nothing I love more than saying you're going to do a thing and then doing it. I mean, it won't work out because it's an app date. And John Berger said, yeah, because I don't do it. But no, I just, I said I was going to do it. I'm doing it. I'm proud of you and he's hot, girl.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I'm excited. All right, so we'll do the update on next week's episode. Yeah. This week we have a really exciting episode for you guys. We have a Peloton instructor that Ashley and I both really, really love. We're talking about confidence, body image. We talk a little bit about loss with her. She really is so phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:24:18 And I love that we really focused this episode, we've recorded it already, on just being really confident and just liking yourself rather than weight loss. Yeah. And, you know, I think some team, Some people can be sensitive to weight loss and how to lose weight, which is fine. You know, we think you should love your body at any size. It's just, it's what works for you.
Starting point is 00:24:39 You know what I mean? Like I think however, whatever size you are, you should love yourself. And if you're not happy with yourself, then you should do something to make a change. We always say that. You know what I mean? So I think sometimes people can think like weight loss can be kind of like triggering like in a fat shaming way. And I, you know, I don't feel like that.
Starting point is 00:24:56 I think people should be able to share their journeys because people do want to get fit and lose weight, and we can offer them those tools. So we have a little bit of that. If that feels triggering to you, then maybe this isn't an episode for you, but she had a big weight loss and she talks about it. And she just shares her story and that's that. So at the end of the day, we're all about love yourself no matter what, take up as much space as you want, live your truth.
Starting point is 00:25:17 But for those of you who want to hear those types of stories about body transformations, she shares hers. Yeah. So I hope you guys love the episode. We're really excited to have her. And she is really just such a light. Oh, she's, oh my God. She's incredible.
Starting point is 00:25:31 She really, I love her. She'll be our friend. Okay, let's get into it with Tunday. Yes, I'm so excited, guys. We have a very special guest in the house studio with us today. We are excited to welcome. She is a former makeup artist turned Peloton instructor who in her free time works with speak, a project she started, which aims to elevate the voices of those dealing
Starting point is 00:25:51 with adversity. Ashley and I are huge fans of her cycling class. We love her style. We love her red lip. We love her playlist. and just her overall positive and powerful vibe that she brings to literally all of her classes. Please welcome to the studio.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Tunei Oh, Unane. Can you just follow me around? And when I'm having a down date, repeat all of that. Yes. I mean, I'm doing for us. I'm smiling from cheek to cheek. That was beautiful. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Thank you for being here. Well, you really elevate us and our, well, for me in the morning, for Ashley in the afternoon with your classes. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks for, thanks for writing with me. Yeah, I took my first, I mean, I'm new-ish to Peloton. So my first class that I took of yours was the Beyonce class with Alex.
Starting point is 00:26:40 And I was like, who is this woman? I was like, she is bossing him around for one. And I was like her energy is, I mean, I cried, the whole thing. Like it was just, and then I went to your Instagram and I was just like screenshoting and sending pictures to everybody. I'm like, do we all know her? Who is this? Who is she? Like it was just, I just.
Starting point is 00:26:57 I just love everything about your style. The Beyonce two-for-one ride with Alex Toussaint will forever go down as one of my favorite rides to teach. But he and I have such a great friendship that I can yell like that on stage. And he knows it's just all in good fun. But yeah, so much fun. Well, it was incredible. You were just like, get up.
Starting point is 00:27:19 It's the most. I mean, you are like in the middle of this model. Like it's so beautiful. I'm crying. Everyone's crying. And you look at him and you go, get up. And he was like, what? And you were like, get up.
Starting point is 00:27:27 He was just like, okay, like, it was just, it was so much girl power. And it was like porn to watch. It was exercise porn. I was like telling my friends, like, you can log in and just watch it if you want. If you don't have the bike. Like, you should just watch it. I watched. I took the class and then I listened to the class.
Starting point is 00:27:42 You know, it's funny. That's definitely a class. And I too, I just played it back to those big moments like that. It's almost like the class is over. He and I looked at each other when the class was over and we're like, wait, did that just happen? Because it 30 minutes in real time feels like 30. seconds when you're doing something that you're so excited to and there was so much hype around it before we went into it. And so yeah, it was one that I definitely, I had to watch it back to see what
Starting point is 00:28:06 happened. Like, wait, what did we say? What did we do? So yeah, you blacked out. We feel like that. We go on stage, we get off stage and we're like, was that good or like, you know, it was, you know, but we want to hear everything about you. Obviously, Ashley and I have independent journeys of Peloton. She really got me into Peloton. It really has changed. my life. And so we're really excited to have you here and just hear about how you got into this, how you changed your body, and just changed your career and everything that you've done. Girl, okay, that's like, how long do we have on the timer? Okay, so let's start. Let's focus it. You're from Texas. You're from Houston. I'm from Houston, Texas originally. Were you born here?
Starting point is 00:28:49 I'm from Houston, Texas. Both my parents were born in Nigeria, hence the name. So I'm a first generation American descendant of two Nigerians, originally from Houston, Texas, moved from Texas to L.A., Los Angeles, when I was like, I think 20 or 20, I think I had a fake ID, you guys, to be very transparent. And so sometimes I can't remember how old I really was
Starting point is 00:29:14 when I got to L.A. Or what my fake ID said. But I think I was 20 or 21 when I moved to L.A. I was there for 11, 11 or 12 years. Oh, okay. And then the older I get, the foggier all of this becomes, but I think I was there for about 11 or 12 years. And then I moved to the great state of New York in June of 2019.
Starting point is 00:29:40 I had to think about that one. Okay. What brought you here? Peloton. Okay. All right. So you moved for a job. And I know that you have a, I have to stop saying the word journey.
Starting point is 00:29:51 We say it kind of a jest. Like, I hate that. I hate the journey. You know, journey is like blessed. Like, it's all just those words. Words are just so, you know, but it's sometimes the only appropriate word to use. But yeah, you changed careers to move here. That was your journey.
Starting point is 00:30:03 It was a journey. Like there's no other word for it. I think that when people look at success, they think it's a straight, you know, straight line to the top. But I say journey because when you're on a journey, when you're on a quest, you're going somewhere, you think you're going in the wrong direction, then you start to get lost, then you pivot, then you're going again and then you think you're going the right direction. Not only do you get lost, but you're like,
Starting point is 00:30:26 you've rewound and gone backwards. So it's been a journey to get here. There's no straight line about it. Well, I guess let's talk about your physical journey. Yeah, you know, I've told this story a few times and I actually love telling the story because I think that, you know, when I, so I spent a good portion of my life being heavier and being overweight. And I think that when people see fitness people, they just think, oh, that person's just like fit.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Like, it comes naturally to them. They eat whatever they want. Or they love it. eating really clean or they love working out like they love doing all that you know and so I love like coming from the other side of that story if you will and being able to relate and connect with people who are on their fitness journey I'm still on my journey I think it's something that never ends you continue to to work at it and to be stronger and to be better in that way but yeah I I I always I love voicing to people like no like none of this comes naturally for me there are days when i like the
Starting point is 00:31:31 last thing that i want to do is work out there's days of the last thing i want to do is eat anything green um and so like i said i'm originally from houston texas spent a good chunk of my life struggling with my weight good chunk of my life overweight um i've always been i'm gonna i would say i'm a very outgoing person i don't think i would say i was very shy but i remember even then when i was heavier I was like the most introverted outgoing person. I don't know if that's a real thing. But inside of me, I knew that I wasn't quiet. Inside of me, I knew I wasn't shy.
Starting point is 00:32:08 However, I had an exterior that I was trying to hide. I never laughed too loud because I felt like if I laughed too loud, people would notice I was there. And if they noticed that I was there, they would notice how big I was. I love, I still, I love dancing. Like, I'm not saying I'm good at it, but I love doing it. No, you are.
Starting point is 00:32:28 You danced your way through the cycling classes too. I love dancing. And I remember like I'd be at home with my brothers and my cousins on a Sunday and we'd be watching Sunday or Saturday, whatever day it came on, we'd be watching Soul Train. And we'd in the house, we'd line up and we'd do the Soul Train dance and we'd have so much fun. And then I would go to a party with my friends and people would get up to dance. and I was sitting there like desperately wanting to get up and join the circle or the line of people dancing.
Starting point is 00:32:57 But I did it because I felt like if I danced, they would notice I was there. And if they noticed I was there, they would notice how big I was. And so it was like this person in me that was, has always been there. I haven't changed. I, I am just more free and expressing myself now because I feel, feel more confident. And I set out to lose weight. I wanted to lose 70 pounds. I did that, which is awesome.
Starting point is 00:33:24 And I salute anybody whose goal is to lose weight within their journey. But for me, what I found, and I think what many people find within this, again, that word journey, is that I set out to lose something. I set out to lose 70 pounds. I did that. But that's just one thing that I lost weight. What I gained was so much more. What I gained was so much more fruitful.
Starting point is 00:33:47 It was so much more abundant. I gained confidence. I gained a sense of purpose. I gained relationships and friendships. I gained trust in myself. I gained belief in myself. Losing weight is really, really, really hard. And honestly, I did it at a age.
Starting point is 00:34:04 I did it at a young age where it's hard to stick to anything when you're young. And to me, it's shown me like, girl, sis, like there are times when I'm going through hard things, truly. And I say to myself, I'm like, oh my God, if I did that, I can do this. Like you can do this. You've done tougher. And, you know, I, I found confidence or I gain confidence.
Starting point is 00:34:27 I gained a sense of strength. Like doing push-ups, like throwing heavy weights on your shoulders and squatting and deadlift. Like that makes you feel good. I've said this before, but I'll say it again. Like when I put weights in my hand, to me, weights, that's a confidence booster. If I'm on a Peloton treadmill or a Peloton bike, like I jump on that piece of hardware
Starting point is 00:34:51 and it boosts my confidence. And so I came to a place where I decided I have to let this number thing go because that number, that scale, that little thing, that demon thing, I'll call it, it likes to rule you. You feel really great about yourself. You feel really great about your progress.
Starting point is 00:35:09 And you step on the scale and the scale says that you're losing weight and you're like, yay, I feel so good. And then a week goes by, And, you know, you've been crushing it for seven days, eating all the things that the people tell you to eat. People say to eat this and that and you're trying all the things and you're doing it. And then you're working out and you're working out extra more than what people said you should do. You feel great.
Starting point is 00:35:27 And then you step on the scale and the scale says that you're going in the opposite direction. You feel great. And then you step on that thing and that thing has the ability to redirect your energy in the way that you feel. And so I threw that thing out a long time ago and I go on strength. I'm like, oh, I want to, you know, deadlift X amount more this week. Or like those are the goals that I seek. And so I look for what I can gain versus things I'm trying to lose.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Uh-huh. The thing that is really inspiring to me about you and how I want to learn is like, I want to learn to be fit by somebody who fought to get there. Like not somebody that the message is like, I'm just like this. You know, I'm just like this. I love working out. It's amazing. Like personally for me, at least to motivate me,
Starting point is 00:36:10 I want to know that somebody like fought their way there. and like could stick to it and it sucked and it's not always fun and eating this weight isn't always fun and like yeah the scale doesn't always show you what you want to see and personally like on my body I'm the same way I've never I have a scale on the floor I've never put batteries in it because I don't want to you know I know that like my clothing fits differently I've less cellulite than I used to things are tighter and that the classes aren't as hard as they used to be things are tighter and that's my measure not the number classes aren't as that's a good one the classes aren't as hard as they used to be I love that yeah I got weighed yesterday I just, I went to the gyno and I was like, I've not been on a scale since the last time I was at the gyno. Like, it's just, I don't, I don't believe in like in scales. And every scale's different also.
Starting point is 00:36:51 And like, I was then, I was like in the room by myself and I just like moved it to a different place in the floor just to prove to myself. And it was different. Like they're just, they never tell the truth. But I, you know, I, I love what you've said. I think there's, you know, today we have such a body positivity movement, which I love and I appreciate. And I think that like any woman should be confident in her size at whatever she feels.
Starting point is 00:37:13 that she loves her body in. And I think that, like, you shouldn't be scared to get up and dance because you think you're too big. You know, like, you should just do it. But for you, it was about how you wanted to feel. And that's how I feel. You know, I'm just like, this is how I feel comfortable. And I think everybody should love the body they're in.
Starting point is 00:37:30 And if they want to change it, they should be able to change it. You know, so I just think that it doesn't mean that, like, thin and fit is good and being overweight is bad. It's just like how you know you want to feel. Right. And in full transparency, when I started, I didn't start. I didn't start for a feeling. I started because I wanted to lose weight, right?
Starting point is 00:37:46 And then at some point, because I think first I said, I wanted to lose X amount, then X amount. And then you're hitting these goals and you're like, okay, well, I'm still not happy. Let me go for five more. Okay, well, let me go for 10 more. Okay. Well, if I can just lose two more, I'll be happy.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And then it was like this endless thing that you're chasing that you, the joy never comes. My, not New Year's resolution, but my new year thought, my new year intention, if you will, is I don't want my ambition to rob me of my current blessing. I don't want my ambition to rob me of my current joy. And I think of like, you know, you're working, you're trying to build these things. You have goals that you're trying to attain or that you're aspiring towards. And you forget to just enjoy where you are.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Like you built everything around you. You built this for you. Like at what point do you say, oh my gosh, like look at what I've done. Like I started here and like look at what I've done. And the same thing goes back with your body. Like rather than just thinking, oh, my God, I have to lose 15 pounds. I have to lose 15 pounds. Do you know how many people would kill to be in the body that you're in?
Starting point is 00:38:52 Or at what point do you either think that or you think, wow, I know I really want to lose 15 more pounds. But look at where I am today and look at how hard I work today. And look how strong I feel today. And so I think it's all about like mindset and rechanneling that. I was actually talking to a friend the other day. And we were talking about Serena Williams. And Serena Williams is the most athletic, I'm not going to say woman.
Starting point is 00:39:16 She's the most athletic human on the planet. And she's not a size too. And it's like her big legs equip her with the power to play the sport that she plays so well. And it's like I was talking to me from her. I was like gosh, I wish like I'd seen her. I'd seen that when I was little like someone like just in their fullness and loveliness and lifeness. and I said I wish that I saw that. So I saw that image as like something that I wanted to attain to.
Starting point is 00:39:48 And, you know, I was just talking to her. We were talking about something. And I was like, you know, I'm never going to be a size zero and all this stuff. And she said, Tunday, your position on what you do at Peloton, you have the ability to be that for someone else. Like I have what I call a real body. Like I'm muscular, sure. But at the end of the day, it looks like a body of a human being that, you know, You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:40:12 And so it's also nice to like to know, okay, well, maybe there's somebody who's taking this class right now that says, wow, she's a real human. And that is seen as as she's a real human. She's strong. And perhaps that's seen as like, you know, something that hopefully inspires someone to just love the body that they're in and just get stronger in it. Yes, we love that. I love this notion that you like pause to say like, yeah, I have goals in the future. But like, let's be proud of what today is because I think. I mean, obviously this is a dating podcast. I think it really informs the way that you show up in
Starting point is 00:40:44 the world when you are with your friends, at your job, but also in the dating world, just your confidence in general. And if every day you're just saying to yourself, I have 15 more to go, you know, before I'm happy, then I don't know that you ever become happy, you know? And if you just say, like, I'm so proud of like this specific thing today, I think it'll inform like your confidence and, you know, in the world and in dating. I'd love to talk about, you know, how you think that this is your confidence and has connected to dating, you know, how you used to feel and how you feel today. Girlfriend, considering my dating life is non-existent,
Starting point is 00:41:15 there's really not allowed to talk about. Yeah, everyone's, though, everyone's dating life is sucky. I just mean, like, you know, do you remember in high school or feeling bigger how you, how you appeared, you know, romantically versus now? Do you feel like you're more confident? Do you feel like you're the same amount of confident? Yeah, pre-pandemic even.
Starting point is 00:41:30 We can leave the pandemic out of it. Yeah. It's a tough question. I didn't date in high school. I didn't have a boyfriend until I was in college. And, yeah, I think. I don't know that any of it has to do with size. Honestly, as a factor, I think it's just I'm 35 years old.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I think it's just like just stepping into my womanness, owning my womanness. I think, yes, with working out and living a healthier lifestyle, I've gained confidence and I've gained a sense of power. And by power, I don't mean like how much I can squat or bench press, but power meaning like I define power as like when you're doing something. something in alignment, like that tingly feeling that you get when you're doing the thing you love. Like, for example, the tingly feeling that you get when you do a podcast, right? You just love doing it. It feels so good. And you finish. You're like, yeah, I wish I could just feel like this all the time.
Starting point is 00:42:24 I gained, I was, I've been able to tap into that and access that feeling as I become more confident, as I step more into myself. And so yeah, I think my like relationship, my non-existent relationship, but my relationship, with the relationship of the activity of dating. I think that has, I think I've gained more confidence in that because I've been able to step into my purpose and my power more. Love it. Yes. Go off. And I just have another personal question. Do you prefer to date people in the fitness world or does it not matter to you?
Starting point is 00:43:03 Not at all. We don't date comedians. So we hear you. I don't know I ship you and Alex, but I mean, if you guys don't want to date, it's fine. Alex is like, I hate to crush America's dreams. I know. Alex is my friend. He's a very nice guy.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Yes, he is also very handsome. And yes, we are very much only friends. Oh, do people ask you that a lot? You have no idea. Even my close friends, believe it or not. They're like too hot people. They have to be fucking. Like, yeah, no, no.
Starting point is 00:43:37 He's a lovely guy, though. He's super. He's like, he's the best. He's a brother to me. It's funny because he's younger than me. So he's like my little brother. But he's incredibly wise. So he's like my little older brother, which is very interesting.
Starting point is 00:43:49 But yeah, no, I know there's a lot of people that, a lot of instructors, fitness people that do not date people in the fitness industry. I'm neither here nor there. It is not a pre, it's not a required. It is not a prerequisite, nor is it a deterrent. Do you need to work out? I mean, I think in general, I think people, I think that, you know, in relationships, when you have common interests,
Starting point is 00:44:13 I think that that can always be just a great fundamental thing. For me, I think it is important that someone understand the value of leading an active and healthy lifestyle. So that, for me, it's really attractive, yeah. 100%. It's funny because Raina used to say, like, she never used to work out. And she was like, I couldn't date somebody that worked out every day. And now she works out every day.
Starting point is 00:44:36 It's like, I just wonder, like, have you changed? Look at how many guys you've turned away. Call them all that. Say, let's start this process over. Start that interview process over. I mean, I've always wanted to date a person that likes to be active. You know, like, I've never wanted to date a person that, like, their idea of a fun Saturday is, like, lay in bed until two, we act like a piece of shit. We order a bunch of food.
Starting point is 00:44:59 I mean, some Saturdays. Yeah, but you also don't want if they're doing a tough mudder or you're not. Somebody asked to do a tough mutter last year. And I was like, for this reason, I'm out. So I think that to your point. It's important to date somebody that has a similar lifestyle. Of course, I want my partner to take care of themselves. I would never date a person that complained about anything in their life consistently.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Didn't change it. So if somebody doesn't like their body, I'd be like, you need to get on this bike. Yeah, before I think I wouldn't have dated somebody that had to get up every morning and run. At least I understand it a little bit more. Like, I stayed with my brother and me, him and his wife all worked out. This is like on a Saturday morning together. And I was like, this is like a fun activity to do together. I don't know that I used to always think that.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Well, I love that you just said that. And I think for me, part of that is I work out and I work out a lot. And I love to work out. And I know I said earlier, like, I don't love to work out every day and all the time. Don't get me wrong. There's times I don't want to work out. But in general, I love the way that working out makes me feel. It yields high reward.
Starting point is 00:45:53 So I do it, right? I need a partner that's going to get that. So somebody's like, I don't get it. If I'm like, oh, my God, I really just need to go for a run. And then I'll feel so much better. I need my partners to be like, oh, my God, yes, please go run. so that you can come back and be a better human to me. That's right.
Starting point is 00:46:10 I would be a better human for you and to you. If you let me get this 30 minutes in real quick, please. It's so, it's like, Rayno will be like, I'll start like tweaking out like spiraling. She's like, you need to go, you need to go to yoga. You need to go find, like, when we used to go on the road, she's like, you need to go to the gym. See if there's a peloton in there and get your shit, right? Right. I just, I wanted to just ask one quick question.
Starting point is 00:46:33 I mean, you kind of gave us a macro overview of your, of your, of your, journey. But was fitness kind of the catalyst with with the weight loss and the body transformation? Did you kind of like find fitness or was it just everything, fitness diet, all of it? It was all of it. It was like eating right. Like I mean, I had all brothers growing up, three boys and I was the only girl and they played football. I just ate when my brother's ate. We would go to McDonald's and like, you know, you get like the number of, or burger he, you get like the number five, the wopper the fries a drink. We didn't even do that. We would just go and get like two or three whoppers each.
Starting point is 00:47:07 And that was like, I didn't know. And I think so much of it is just like not like not knowing when you know better, you do better. And I just didn't know how to eat. I don't think that it was like ingrained in the culture. I grew up in the Midwest. We ate what we ate. My mom cooked dinner for us.
Starting point is 00:47:22 But my dad took us to Wendy's every other day. I don't know that it was like cool or hip or there was a thousand Instagram accounts telling me how to eat healthy when I was growing up. Well, I ask because we always say like you can probably find something you like doing physically, you know, for me, my weight always fluctuated. And then when I finally started going to flywheel, this was in 2012, like it changed my life. It changed my body. It changed my life. Obviously, now that's, now it's Peloton, which just, you know, no shade, but flywheel is closed now. So, uh, it was, it was this life changing thing. Literally, it's so cheesy, but I like, honestly
Starting point is 00:47:55 think of my life and my mental state, like pre-flywheel and post, you know, it's like when it all changed, I found this thing that like turned into like therapy for me. And then it started, Then I started to start starting doing more yoga, more Pilates, whatever it is. But I became a fitness person. And it's just that there was like a before and after. Before that, I would run and do that type of thing. But it was like I found the thing that worked for me. And I think you hear that all the time.
Starting point is 00:48:19 And, you know, people, like sometimes they feel weird to talk about it because, you know, they feel like other people will be like, oh my God, it's not that deep. But it is. I mean, if you find a thing that actually kind of like changes your life, it's big. And I think that everybody can find that. And it's not cycling for everybody. it might be something else, but there's a thing out there. I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:48:39 And Peloton is not paying me to say this. However, I am on their payroll, so I guess maybe. But no, but in truth, truly, I always tell people I say, if you don't like running, if I'm building a program for you, I'm not going to say go out and run the next marathon. You don't like running. Like try cycling. If you don't like cycling, try Pilates.
Starting point is 00:48:59 And honestly, actually, I think that's the beauty of Peloton. So many people know as a cycling company, but we have cycling. We have cycling. We have training classes. We just introduced Pilates classes. We have family fitness classes. So you can work out with your kids. We have family meditation classes. You can meditate with your kids.
Starting point is 00:49:15 You can do yoga. You can do boot camp classes. Like literally, like it really is, has become this avenue where you can log into the digital app, whether you have the hardware or not, log into the digital app. And from your home, from your phone, you can take. a class with one of our instructors. And again, if you don't like something, don't force yourself to like it right now. I used to hate running. I actually really enjoy running now and I got into it, but I didn't start with running, right? So find something you like to do. If you like dancing,
Starting point is 00:49:49 for example, take our dance classes. And then as you are feeling more competent and feeling like a stronger dancer, you know, getting your heart rate up with these dancing classes, then maybe you peek in and you say, let's see what's going on in this pull up. And then from Pilates, maybe that leads you to the bike. So find something that you like to do because you will show up to your workout for the joy of that thing that you like to do. If you dread doing that thing, you're not going to show up. Find something you like to do.
Starting point is 00:50:20 So you show up for the thing that you actually like to do. I like this notion because I was like, I looked at runners bodies and I was like, I want that body. And I tried to run. And I was like, I fucking hate this. I don't want my body feels like shit I don't enjoy this I don't want I honestly The getting dressed and walking out the door is the hardest part for me
Starting point is 00:50:40 Now I put on a pair of underwear on a bra and I work out And I actually found these guys on Instagram It's the Williams brothers and I started trying to learn their dances And like that this summer is how I started to like Get into working out a little bit because I mean everybody listens to show It's heard me say it's but like I started to hate my body It was all consuming it's all I thought about and talked about And I was like let me do something
Starting point is 00:51:01 And then I found Pelotime, which has, like, you said, so many different things. So, like, I started with dancing, and then I did a little bit of strength training, and I was doing, like, squats. And then I, like, built into liking the bike. When I first got the bike, yeah, you didn't like a bike. It was the most expensive coat rack I have ever bought in my entire life. It just sat there. And I was, like, I don't like the way this feels.
Starting point is 00:51:19 And then I bought, like, a gel-seat cover and bike shorts. And, like, I've made it a fun thing. But I love this device because I did want to ask you, know, how do we get people, you know, if they want to get into working out. I mean, not everybody has to like working out. Right. so that's what you like to do. But, you know, I like this advice for how do I get into it. It's like, I don't pick a thing you like, dance. Right. Can I also give you another ridiculous
Starting point is 00:51:39 thing that helps, at least for me? Yeah. When I, like, if I feel like cute in my workout clothes, like, like you said, like the hardest thing is blocking out the door. For me, like days that I don't want to work out and I'm working out in my own house, nobody can see me. But days that I don't want to work out, like, I'm just like, oh, no, I don't want to wear this. Oh, I don't feel good in this. but finally when I put something on that I feel supported in and cute in I'm like okay let's get this little workout out of it and get a little soon because then afterwards you have like a little glisten going maybe there was like an Instagram a little selfie moment but yeah you know it's just like I try to find just anything anything that's going to make me you know look forward forward to
Starting point is 00:52:19 getting that sweat in it's all it's all the things it's the fucking water bottle like I I had bought like this this top that like really I don't have like like like like large brass, but it did something, some sort of sorcery. And I was down at the Pelican. This is before I got my own. I was on the one in our building. And I, in like in the glass, I was like, what are those titties? And I like did like an Instagram story, like a boomerang.
Starting point is 00:52:42 They were bouncing. I was feeling myself. I was dancing. My DMs were lit. They were like, first of all, what is this? It was like a bra top. It was like a cropped up with a built-in bra from beyond yoga. And it would just, I felt so like sexy.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Like, I don't know. It's just. And you got it. a great workout that day. I'm just, but she got a good thirst trap in, which is even more important some days. You know, just do it.
Starting point is 00:53:04 I did this boomerang of myself stretching the other day. Let me tell you, it is the number one story I ever posted. And just do it for the traps. Yeah, like it's really true because I mean, it's just so funny because I started, I would go, like in college, I would go on the elliptical, whatever,
Starting point is 00:53:18 at the gym. And we would just wear like Sophie shorts and a sorority t-shirt. I'm like, what did we? We just would show up in like, non-breatable cotton. The older you get sometimes, too, the more money you make. And so it's like, you know, you invest a little bit more and a little cute outfit here and there.
Starting point is 00:53:35 And so that's pointed too. Yeah, I used to roll up with whatever I slept in. I was like, okay, we're wearing. It's so funny. I'm like, was I just chafing in those Sophie shorts? Those so many shorts are not movable. But there's this guy that was on our show and he likes to work out. And Ashley and I send each other his photos of him working out.
Starting point is 00:53:51 We're like, how does he do with that outfit? Oh, yeah, he works out like skin tight leggings. but like joggers, like they don't, they look like they don't breathe. But you always say your mind is your strongest muscle, which we love. And do you want to just kind of elaborate that and how that relates to your life
Starting point is 00:54:05 and how you share it with other people? Ultimately, if it's in a work, in a workout, your body has already shown up and said, I can do this. We know that for a fact because you woke up today, right? You woke up and you moved yourself out of the bed. And so so much of it is all of the internal chatter of what's going on in here. We were just speaking about how like running, like, running to me is one of those things
Starting point is 00:54:31 that the first 10 minutes of, I ran yesterday. Like the first 10 minutes of every run, I am trying to talk myself out of it. I'm like, oh, no, oh, no, these shorts. Is that Sophie, that show be short. Like, ooh, these shorts are riding up. Oh, God, you know what, this left shoe lace is too tight. You know what? This scrunchy is no good.
Starting point is 00:54:47 My hair is ever, like, so I, there's all these excuses that I'm making to myself of why I should just get off of this treadmill and just like not. do this today. And there's something that happens, you know, after the first 10 minutes of just the biomechanics of it, your body and your brain, all of it starts to work together. And some of that internal dialogue that's saying, I can't, I don't want to, I don't need to today, I shouldn't today. All of that chatter begins to subside. And so ultimately, it's your mind that leads the muscle. Yeah, in a squat, your quad is the dominant muscle that moves. But, what's stronger and what's more important than that quad,
Starting point is 00:55:28 what activates and tells that quad to move is your mind. If your mind said throw the weight down, we're not into it today, you're throwing it down. And so if you can come back when the workout gets to be too tough or at the start of the workout when you really don't want to do it, or before you even start to put the workout close on, if you can come and say,
Starting point is 00:55:45 so much of this is just dialogue, my body says that it can do it right now, I'm going to keep doing this workout and I'm going to push myself until my body physically begins to show me this is enough. I'm going to, you know, this is enough for today. And so your mind is your strongest muscle on off the bike, on off the tread with or without a weight. Like in everything that we do in life, your mind, your mind's got to, got to show up and say yes to do anything. Yeah. And I always think about like, you know, when you, when you're going through something that's difficult. For me,
Starting point is 00:56:18 once you get it out of your body, then it's just your mind. Because I think like so much stuff it's in our body. And for me, I get that out working out. You know, if you need to cry it out, you need to scream. Like, you know, whatever it is, get it out of your body. And then you just have to work on your mind. And I think that it's so mental, so much is mental. Like, you can choose to wallow and feel sorry for yourself and just feel in that, like, kind of like victimized, sad, depressed mindset. And there's, there's a time and a place. Like, you should always feel your feelings, we say. But then there comes a point where you just have to choose. Like, I just think you have to choose to shift your mindset.
Starting point is 00:56:52 you know, whatever it may be, whether you have to, like, go out and just get some fresh air, you have to call a friend, like, whatever it is. I think that, like, it sometimes boils down to being, like, a choice. Your energy is going to go where your attention goes. Your energy goes. Your energy goes where your attention goes. If you're, we'll talk, we've been talking about bodies, so I'll relate it to that. But if you're feeling like, ugh, and that's where you're focusing in your energy, and that's what you're obsessing over, then that's all you're going to think about. And then that thought starts to rule you, and it's all you see. Like, that's, all you see, that's all you focus on.
Starting point is 00:57:24 If you're working out, if you're trying to work the booty, you want to squeeze the booty, right? Your energy has to, your attention has to go there so that the energy in your body is going to go there. I think life is the same exact way. Whatever you focus on becomes all that you see
Starting point is 00:57:40 and you start to live by that thing that you see. It's like, you know, and then you have this really good friend that says you're in your head about something, whether it's a relationship, like you're overthinking, you know, what he said or whatever. and to us it feels so massive and so big.
Starting point is 00:57:54 And so once you can renavigate your attention, you can renavigate your energy on it. Yeah, reframing. We had a friend over the other day. We had some friends over and then one, we had one friend that just kind of said something that was kind of negative towards herself. And our other friend jumped in.
Starting point is 00:58:12 She was like, no, no, no, we need to reframe that. Right. She's getting her graduate degree in like psychology. But it was funny that she was like, no, but it wouldn't even let her finish the story. She was like, I don't like the way you talked about yourself and work in a reframe that. And we say the most vicious. Like, think about the person you like least, right?
Starting point is 00:58:29 The person you like least that you actually know. I'm there. Right? That you actually know, though. It has to be somebody that you know. Think about the person that you like least that you actually know. You would, like the things that you say to yourself, you wouldn't even say to them. You wouldn't even say to them.
Starting point is 00:58:44 You might think it. And if you got in a heated fight or heated debate, part of those thoughts might slip out. But you wouldn't just calmly. sitting there while you're brushing your teeth, say horrible things to that person, right? But when you're calmly brushing your teeth, you said some bad things sometimes, right? To yourself, yeah. Oh, my eyes. Oh, my skin.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Oh, my hair. Like, whatever it is, right? And so I think that if we can reframe like you're saying and just like be better people to ourselves. And I like this notion also that like, listen, I'm not diminishing that what depression really does to you and how like the chemicals that flood your brain just really pour right in there when you're upset. But, you know, it can be a choice to feel a little better. It can at least be a choice to get up and walk out of the house, to listen to different music,
Starting point is 00:59:29 which I really like really helps me if I put on something upby, to call a person that's going to make me feel a little better, to stop, you know, whether it's a breakup, checking that person's Instagram account. Like there are some things we really can control. We can make a choice to stop doing certain things and feel better. And I love that. And I have to remind myself to do that, too, sometimes, you know? Like, don't, don't like, wallow in this. I mean, while we're here, you know, not to like bring the mood down so much, but I mean, you've, you've dealt with a lot of loss and you're open about it. I just, I always think about you saying that the Beyonce song is, I was here that you played,
Starting point is 01:00:02 like helped you deal with the death of your father, I believe. So obviously music sounds like it's a coping mechanism, but do you want to touch a little bit on how you deal with loss and grief? I mean, I, there's no like one size fits all, you know, with grief. you grieve in the way that you grieve. And, you know, I lost my little brother when he was 19 years old. And then three years after I lost him, I lost my dad. And then three years after that, I lost my mom.
Starting point is 01:00:31 And so it was all before my 30th birthday. And it was always obviously all very quick, all unexpected and all sudden. And for me, it's like I would do anything. Like I would do anything in the world on the planet to have one more second with any of them, like to have two minutes, two minutes to see them again, to talk to them again. And with that said, I say that to say, I would do anything to have a moment with them again. And I do believe that we all go through things with purpose. I know that I am the woman that I am because of my experiences. I don't let my experience or my past. I don't let it dictate my future.
Starting point is 01:01:18 however I pull learnings from it into every day. Everything I do, I do for them. Every single thing I do, I do for them for their name, for my family's legacy. I do because they cannot because they're not here to do. So I do in the knowing of how short life is, you see on TV when people are like, oh my God, we didn't think that that would happen to us. That was me. That I said that three times.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Like didn't think that that would happen. Didn't think that would happen. didn't think that that would happen. And so, you know, anything can happen. I realized that anything can happen. And so, you know, I just, I tried to live in each day with that in mind.
Starting point is 01:01:59 I feel like people, life, would give me such a past. If I just wanted to be like, you know, someone who did absolutely nothing and just sat in my own sorrows every day, I truly believe that people would allow me to do that. They would say, oh my God, she's been through so much.
Starting point is 01:02:11 We understand. Like, yeah, girl, take your time. And with that being, said, I still, you know, all of that happened before Peloton was even a thought. All of that happened before I'd even taught my first cycling class ever. And so that is definitely part of what propelled me to step into this, which I know this was divinely mine. It was going to happen. And I think going through those things allowed me to unlock this position in my life. I don't think I would have seen it and or I don't think I would have gone after it with such urgency. I woke up basically
Starting point is 01:02:52 one day, I took a cycling class. I left the studio and in that moment after taking the class, I knew that I would not only be cycling for the rest of my life. I knew that I would not only be teaching it, but I knew I'd be teaching it on the world's biggest platform. And I knew that the world was going to know my name for it. That was after my very first cycling class that I took. And I could have listened to that hum or I could have just put. pushed it off as, you know, you're in New York City and it's snowing outside and maybe this is just like a nostalgic moment you're having. But I listened to it and I leaned into it because I know how life, how short life is. And so again, without the, I don't want to say that learning because it's definitely a lesson I didn't want to have to learn. But without those experiences, I don't know that I would have seized and jumped on what led me to this with as great urgency. I probably would have said, oh, I'll do that later in life. everything I do, I'm like, let's go, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's live.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Like right now I'm in a season. I don't know how long this season will last. And so I'm just like trying to grab all the fruits of it while I'm here. Well, thank you for sharing. I mean, it's just, it's an unbelievable loss. And it's just to see you and be in your presence, you're just this like radiant light of like happiness and optimism. And it's just you chose that for yourself. You know, like you said, like if you just decided to,
Starting point is 01:04:16 to never do anything again, the world would be like, yeah, we get it. I can't imagine what she's, what she's been through. But I mean, you, it's just, you're such an inspiration to me. Yeah. So, yeah, thanks for, thank you for sharing. Yeah, this was really, really beautiful. Thank you so much. I'm so inspired by this.
Starting point is 01:04:33 And I totally agree with Ashley. You know, if you just said, you know, the world is against me and all these things happen, and I'm just going to sort of wallow in it, no one would blame you. Right. And I think it's an incredible inspiration to aspire to be, the kind of person that Tasey's experiences and spins them at least into something positive and inspiring to others. Right. Yeah. I think from it too, like I feel like I'm not supposed to bottle up those experiences. I think part of my story is sharing those experiences to allow other people to see that it's hard.
Starting point is 01:05:07 But one day, eventually one day, you will be okay again. You'll never forget. you know, and you'll never not feel and not miss them, but one day you will be okay again. Yeah. And you need, like, it's like how we need role models and everything, how we need somebody to look up to in whether it be fitness or career or comedy or whatever it is. So it's like you can be someone's inspiration in that way that's lost a parent or sibling or all of the above and just be like, okay, if she can, you know, live her life in this way. I can too.
Starting point is 01:05:46 So I think people like you are very important. Yeah. I think that the common mantra to every single person that goes through loss, whether it's a relationship, a parent, a pet, whatever it is, is you're going to be okay. It's going to be okay. Give it time. And it's like, well, fuck you.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Like I know eventually it's going to be fine. And I think that at least for me, knowing that like the pain of something like this didn't kill you. And that you can move on. I think at least I have always taken inspiration from that. It's like, you know you're going to be okay. But I like looking at other people that have really gone through tremendous struggles and know that, like, they really, they didn't die from it.
Starting point is 01:06:22 And because you feel like you're going to die sometimes from the pain. So it's nice to know that you can come out on the other end. Right. All right. Well, we've talked about a lot of the stuff we wanted to cover with you. I'd love to just talk, like, about some lighter topics. I mean, you are so into music, like your playlist or fire all the time. Like, what do you really gravitate towards?
Starting point is 01:06:38 I mean, we know you love Beyonce. I mean, that's my personal go to. I mean, if you don't love Beyonce, It's like, you, you're like, your, like, speech about Beyonce on that ride was just like, I just hope Beyonce heard it, right? Like, she has heard it, right?
Starting point is 01:06:53 When people, like, I don't understand. I'm like, okay, so what? You don't like the fact that she sings really amazingly. You don't know, beautiful, talented generous. People do, they criticize her. And I'm like, let me see your playlist, you absolute freak.
Starting point is 01:07:07 No, but like, and also, she's an age town girl. She's from Houston, Texas. Of course. Of course. Wait, can I ask you a question about the Beyonce ride that you did. Also, if anybody wants to get into Palaton fitness working out, I recommend
Starting point is 01:07:23 that. I do not. You can't start with that ride. Why? Because you'll peek. That is true. You can't start. Someone asked me, they just got their Peloton and they were like, what should I start with? I'm like, not the Beyonce ride. Carol, you know, like, take them beginner ride so you're not confused because I want you to totally be able to enjoy it. And if it's your first
Starting point is 01:07:39 ride, you're like, wait, how do I do this? What are they doing? So like, give it like, give it like a month. Okay, watch the, okay, listen, I take it back. Listen, if you want to get into Peloton, just watch that ride. Put on the TV. But my question to you is, okay, when you were doing your speech about Beyonce and talking about her, did you write that out or was that just coming straight from the gut, off the cup? I was like, holy shit. No, it's so funny because some of my teammates, Jess Sims, I love Emma Lovewell. We have like a group text thing. Yeah. Oh, I'm going to be in the
Starting point is 01:08:06 butt is, my butt is courtesy of Jess Sims. And I'll have to tell her that. We were, after the ride, they were like, great job. How do you feel? How did it go? I was like, guys, I don't remember anything that I said. I don't remember that it didn't happen. Like, wait, it's over. And they were like, girl, you were 100% like lost in a zone. Like when I watched it back, there are, it's real. There are moments where I'm dancing.
Starting point is 01:08:34 And Alex is, I'm not, I forgot I was teaching a class. I was doing a video. I made a video of it. And Alex is talking and he's like, we're just going to go ahead and wait for a Tuesday to, you know, wrap up whatever dance moves. Like, so. all that to say like I was 100% fully in the moment. I knew that that song I was here.
Starting point is 01:08:53 I wanted to use that moment as my love letter to Beyonce and to share the story of the healing that when my father passed away, that song, it healed me. When I say I listened to that song on repeat, I need you to know, I played that song on repeat in the house, out of the house, in the car, out of the car. That was all I was listening. to the song, the song, the song. And so that song, it healed me. And I have heard to thank for that. And so aside from just knowing that I wanted to say something there, it was just girl, ladies, it just, I still don't remember.
Starting point is 01:09:32 And then it was like the way they shot it. I was like, this is a cinematic experience. Like they had like angles. I was just like, what is happening? Our production team right now is spinning in circles for that shout out. So shout out to K2. They're very excited that you just did that. My sister-in-law came in the room and saw me working out.
Starting point is 01:09:49 And she goes, are you crying? I was like, yes. Thank you. Musically, you asked me what I'm into. I mean, I am, you know the saying don't judge a book by its cover. Like, I am the epitome of that. Okay, I can't wait to hear this. That thought is like, hit me with Tim McGraw.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Girl, I'm in Texas. I mess around with little Tim McGrath. I love faith. A little faith. Yeah. My favorite, or not favorite, well, one of my favorites, but my first concert ever was should I twain. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Let's go, girls. Have your boots. So yeah. So Dixie Chick, so yeah. But that saying is so true to me. Like, I think people look at me and they're like, oh, she probably likes, boom. And I do like whatever you probably think I like. And I like so much more.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Like, I love music. being first generation American descendant of Nigerians like the drum, the African beat, the drum is inside of my buddy. And so whether it is hip hop or R&B or EDM
Starting point is 01:10:59 or I love deep house or country, like if there's a drum, bass line, a beat like I am so about it. And I try to express that in classes. I try to have like everybody have a moment.
Starting point is 01:11:15 And no, I don't, I don't play, I wouldn't say I played country in classes, although I have. But if I, if they play, when they would play country at Flywell, I would like walk out. I was like, I didn't sign up for this. Well, I think when, like, while I'm working out my musical preferences are a little bit different than if I'm just like at home. Okay. Like, if I'm like at a bar in Texas, drinking a beer, throw some country on. You know what I'm saying? But in a class, I like something that's a little bit more for me personally, a little bit more hard hitting.
Starting point is 01:11:44 And it's just so work. It's so worth it to have people feel better about their day or to brighten people's day through a cycling or a boot camp class. And so it's just really rewarding. It's worth every moment of the stress that I go through to find the perfect. You heard it from us. You brightened both of our days. Thank you. It's in the music.
Starting point is 01:12:06 And then let's just maybe we wrap up with a little like makeup stuff. Like we didn't really talk about your makeup. You're a makeup artist, right? Yeah. Well, you know, I keep saying was, but I guess I still am. I didn't like forget how to do it. You retire from the game. Yeah, I didn't, I didn't retire my brushes.
Starting point is 01:12:22 There's still somewhere. But I am a 16-year makeup artist. It's wild because I got into makeup because I wanted to make people feel better. I growing up didn't have a lot of confidence where I like hid that, right? And so I fell into makeup because I love gifting people with confidence, gifting. Like it's something you give them and they unwrap it and they feel really good about it. And so that's why I loved that. And here I have the ability to do that in a bigger way because you know,
Starting point is 01:12:51 you give somebody confidence physically and it can change their life. It can change their health for the better. So there's that one piece of it, just fitness alone. You gift people with confidence that can sometimes be life changing. And then it's also very crafty to never have to hire a makeup artist for anything that I do photo shoots or whatever because I know how to do it. I actually was just talking to Jess Sims the other day. she was on a show.
Starting point is 01:13:13 And I was like, oh, did you get a makeup artist? And she was like, no, da-da-da-da. And she was like, wow, it must be really nice to never have to worry about that. And I was like, yeah, I guess so. The amount of times I have to go to a Sephora before a show. Yeah, but then we like, we get our makeup when we were touring. Like we, listen, people who do makeup are not always good at makeup.
Starting point is 01:13:34 And Rain and I had had so many bad experiences that we just took it upon ourselves to like learn makeup more. Yeah. because I, you know, we would go get our hair done, but I was like, these people have fucked me so many times. Remember the time you sent that girl home? Yeah, I asked this girl to leave, but also never forget the time we went to Sephora
Starting point is 01:13:50 and Ashley let me go by myself and they turned my eyebrows black. And you actually goes, that's what you get forgetting your eyebrows set in a Las Vegas She went to a Las Vegas Sephora. This girl had glitter above her eye. Like, you know, straight out of the night. People want a beat down.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Like, I cannot tell you how I used to travel. I used to travel around the country doing, makeup. And any time I was doing makeup in Vegas, people would always be like, oh, it's not enough. Oh, it's, you know, can you make it stronger? Can you make it stronger? And I was like, baby, I don't know how much more color I can get out onto these. There's not any more room. There's not only, there's always so much room to put makeup. And so they probably did not ever hurt that. Like, they're not used to people in Vegas.
Starting point is 01:14:29 They're not used to people saying that they want less. And so. No, you were like, I'm not a plastic surgeon. I think that you're at the wrong place. I think you're done here. Well, I just, I love that you is a red lip like your signature for years now. Has it always been a red lip for you? Yeah, I love red lips. I'll say this. I remember the first time that somebody, this is way before I'd become a makeup artist. I think I was like first year of college or something. And I went to the Mac counter and there was this guy. He was just like, I really want to do your, you know, your makeup, blah, blah. And so he put this red lipstick on me. This story actually happened like three different times. But he put a red lip on me. I'm so excited because he was like, yes, you can wear red. You can do it. You can rock it. And he put it on me. And I was like, oh, thank you very much. I like, I like, cool. I like, couldn't wait to walk away from the counter to wipe it off because I never, oh my God, I just felt like I was crazy and horrible.
Starting point is 01:15:15 And three other times at three other different counters as it happened. And so one day I was like, why don't people keep trying to put this color on me? And so I was just like, you know what? I'm going to own it. I'm going to keep this lipstick on. I think it was a lotter or something. I was like, I'm going to keep this odd and I'm going to wear it. And so I wore it through the mall and everyone's staring at me.
Starting point is 01:15:34 And I told my best friend, I was like, everyone's staring at me. I want to take this off. She was like, have you ever thought to think that everyone, is staring at you and they're staring at you not thinking negative things. Have you ever stopped to think that they're thinking, oh my God, that girl is so beautiful? And I just thought to me as I was like, oh my God. And it goes back to like your energy and like where you put your focus. And my focus was on everybody thinking that I looked crazy.
Starting point is 01:15:52 And she was like, no, everybody thinks you look really beautiful. And so I love red lips because I think red, when you put red lipstick on, you are saying to the world, I am confident because you're not going to put a red lip on and say people, please don't look at me. Like if you put red lip on, you're saying, I'm okay. with you looking this way. And so it just, it makes me feel, even if I don't feel confident now,
Starting point is 01:16:16 because I wear it so much, I don't feel confident. I put on a red lip and you know what, it sure does make me feel good. And so that's why I like to wear it. I will also say it reads really well on camera too. It just kind of like brightens you up on camera. And so when I'm cycling,
Starting point is 01:16:30 I don't put red lipstick on to work out at home. However, on camera, it's a big plus plus in my book. This just reminded me. I used to have a beauty blog and I remember, I just came back to me. There was a, I just started doing red lips at one point in my life. And I think I had a Mac, a Mac shade. And I wore it out.
Starting point is 01:16:52 I started wearing it out when I went out. And I was single. I mean, I'm still single, but like I was always, you know, in a guy hunt. And I got so much attention. And there was a point where I was like, okay, I got to like, now I'm just like slutting it up. Like I was like going home with dudes. They were coming up to me like with the red lip because it is.
Starting point is 01:17:08 actual proof that you are confident and you, like, are good with having attention and you're, like, comfortable in your own skin. I don't know what it is. Like, it's, you don't see it all the time. And I, I just still remember I should dig that up of, like, writing this blog of like, hey, ladies, like, this is, it's a thing. Like, I don't think men know why. They don't know why. You know, like, a straight man isn't like, oh, a red lip. Like, let me go talk to her. But whatever it was that they were picking up what I was putting down and maybe it was my own inner confidence. But there is something about a red lip for sure. When I used to work at the beauty counter, I used to say, I used to call it the go get them lip because you put that lip on and then
Starting point is 01:17:44 sis, you go get them. Oh, it was Ruby Woo. Do you know, it's like, yeah, I love Ruby Woo. So good. I had a heavy Ruby Woo phase. I had a heavy Ruby Woo phase. Yeah. Should I be doing this?
Starting point is 01:17:54 I have the best lips of anybody I know. Your lips, yeah, I don't even know. These DSLs, I don't even know. You girl, you would wear a red. Oh, you would wear a red. I'm trying to wear every man in the city. That's dintone, that hair color. Yeah, a red would look, like a blue red would look really pretty on you.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Yeah. I think, okay. All right. Well, then I'm, listen, I'm going to do it. Well, and then while we have you, I mean, what can we do? That's better for our people. No, but like, what do you like, do you like Fenty or do you prefer? I mean, I think we've come such a long way with like makeup.
Starting point is 01:18:24 For people with deeper skin tone, I think that we've come such a long way. And when I was like I said, I was in makeup for 16 years. And I worked with some of the top cosmetic companies in the world. And I was fortunate enough to be. in a position where I was able to really speak with and the people that made decisions in product development and marketing. And, you know, the number of times that I was told, like I would say, like, hey, we need this color. Hey, we're not talking to this client. Hey, we could do better. And the feedback was always, well, those colors don't sell. And I was like, well, yeah, they don't sell because you don't make them.
Starting point is 01:19:01 They don't sell because you don't market them. They don't sell because people don't know that you have it, the people that want it. And so I remember, I'm not going to name a name here, but there was a company that I worked for that didn't carry my color. And I'm over here working for the company and that doesn't even have my foundation. And so after that was one of my first cosmetic jobs. And after I left that company, I said, you know what, I'm never going to do that again.
Starting point is 01:19:23 That's like I'm never going to support a brand that doesn't support me. And, you know, so that was always something really important to me when I worked with different companies. And I will say the gift of Fenty and the gift of Rihanna and what she did is that so many people in the prestige market, so prestige is like your brands that you might find in a department store, so many of them didn't speak to women of color, specifically women with deep skin.
Starting point is 01:19:50 And so she required that a lot of people level up to play the game. I actually, I'm an ambassador for Revelon's Color State Foundation. And what I love about Revelyon is Revelyon has literally been doing this, since the 80s. I think it was like or the 90s. I remember like 1990. I don't know, but I remember I was a little girl and I was with my mom and they used three women
Starting point is 01:20:15 of color to market a campaign. And it was the first time I'd ever seen black women used in a beauty campaign and I remember I looked at my mom and I said does that mean I could be beautiful too? Because that was like when you had a cosmetic
Starting point is 01:20:31 contract, that was a sign of being beautiful. And I hadn't seen black women do that. To me, it showed white is beautiful and only white is beautiful. All are beautiful, obviously. But that showed that only white was beautiful. And I remember when I saw these
Starting point is 01:20:48 three women of color on the, and I thought, oh my God, wait, so this is pretty. Okay, so I'm pretty too. So yeah, so just in short to answer your question, I think that now 2021 or whatever we're in right now, all the days are one, but it's a game changer. I just have,
Starting point is 01:21:04 I had been in Sephora and I think probably all of 2020. And I just happened to walk into a Sephora the other day. And I couldn't, because it's been now a year and a half, two years since I've been out of the cosmetic game. And they're brands that are cult,
Starting point is 01:21:17 staple, staple, staple, I'm not going to name, but staple, huge, huge brands that are massive brands that have never, never had foundation for women of color.
Starting point is 01:21:27 And now they do. And I just think, wow. So the whole time it was possible, but you know, it's like I can, I can keep in the mindset of, oh my God,
Starting point is 01:21:35 but you didn't have. it. And so now I just say, okay, so now you do. Thank you. And let's continue to move in this direction. Yeah. And it just, it's, it's, there's you can look at it. So like simple. Like, yeah, thanks, Rihanna for it. But it's like, it's so much deeper than that. It's that she made everyone level up. I mean, yeah, there's other brands. It's not just all. It's not, it wasn't only Rihanna in fairness. There were other brands, obviously. And Revalon that I just spoke to was one of them. Right. Of course. Definitely cater to deeper skin tones. But I think that her hitting the market and like the way that she marketed like, hey, I'm talking to black girls and girls that are, that had deep skin
Starting point is 01:22:11 and everybody else. Like she was saying, I'm talking to you and you. It was different because before it was I'm talking to women of lighter complexion. And yeah, brown girls, we got a little sound for you too. But she like, she flipped the script. And she shifted. Brown girls, I'm talking to you. And everybody else, I got you too.
Starting point is 01:22:28 And so just that narrative in the marketing is really, it wasn't the product. People, some people had it. But the way that she marketed, I think really required people to level up their game. And then it trickle, like you said, like it's, if you really think big picture, it trickles down to girls, like young girls. Like it's not just makeup. It's representation across the board. So it's just like, yeah, I'd love that like the needle is moving because just of your
Starting point is 01:22:51 story of being a little girl and like not knowing like this is like whatever I am, whatever skin color, what body type, whatever like isn't represented. Like, how are you supposed to know? So anyway, that's a whole other conversation. but I just, I love what she's done for and with the lingerie and just she, she found these ways to like make a difference in the world like consumer products. Right. You know, this is a Rihanna and Beyonce stand.
Starting point is 01:23:15 I was just about to say this is becoming Brianna and Beyonce, two of my, um, most idolized humans. So this is very exciting for me. We're excited to have you. Yeah. Before we let you go,
Starting point is 01:23:28 we would love to hear about your organization. Um, and then we'll tell everybody where they can find you. But, um, yeah, we would love to hear about, speak. Yeah, so I created speak. It was actually just
Starting point is 01:23:39 after the murder of George Floyd. I wanted to create a space where people could come and share their stories safely and equally as safe. I wanted to create a space where people could come and just listen.
Starting point is 01:23:55 And it just started as like an idea, this thing. I just felt like I wanted to be able to use my platform. for good. And I wanted to create, again, a safe space for people to come and tell their stories. I think that what divides us as a human race is the inability to see our likenesses. We focus a lot on the ways that how we are different. And I think our differences are what makes us unique. But we don't spend as much time focusing on what our commonalities are or rather even understanding
Starting point is 01:24:29 our differences so that we can have more understanding. more empathy with one another. And so I actually, like one of my first guests was actually Venus Williams, don't even ask how that happened. I have no idea how that happened. And, you know, she came on and she was just so incredible in her story and talked about when she got to Wimbledon, her and Serena their first time and they're so excited. And they look around and then they're the only two black girls and the experience they had and the hate that they had received. I think that people look at these, look at celebrities and you think, oh, well, you know, they made it. If they made it, like you're making excuses, why can't you make it?
Starting point is 01:25:08 And when you peel back the layers and you hear the stories and what they went through to get to where they are, then I think that there's more understanding. Six-time gold medalist Alison Felix was on. Coleman was one of the guests as well, and to hear his story and how he's dealt with adversity and been so triumphant in his life and his life. career so inspiring. Recently, I had on Cynthia Revo. And again, she talked about, you know, she is a classically trained singer and for her to just looking for roles. Like I have this vessel. I have this skill. But no one's not a lot of, there's only so many roles that people are
Starting point is 01:25:50 telling where the lead is a black female. And so, you know, I've been really fortunate to, to have these people to come speak and share their story. Speaks actually an acronym. So S-P-E-A-K, I think in order to speak, you must be willing to surrender. You have to know your power because your power, you sit in it,
Starting point is 01:26:11 and it's what fuels you. You have to lead with empathy and love. I always look for guests that are willing to tell their story, yes, but their story and their experience is coming from a place of love. I think that the only thing that can drive out hate is love. Hate is fueled by more hate. Hate loves hate. It seeks it. And so the only thing that can kill the breath that hate needs is love.
Starting point is 01:26:34 And so when you lead with love, you lead with empathy. You must be authentic in your experience, in your word. And you have to have the knowledge and the, again, experience to back it. So S-P-E-A-K. And so that's just an Instagram series on my Instagram channel. And yeah, it's just been really, it's been really rewarding to hear people's the, my followers to hear their feedback and how they are inspired by someone, by someone else's story. I just, I love what you're doing and your, your energy is infectious and, you know, the, the interviews are great. So keep it up.
Starting point is 01:27:13 We can't wait to watch more. Yeah. Will you tell people what your Instagram handle is and how they can find you? I'm sure every person is going to go flood this and watch. I'm the worst, like, social media person in that. No, you're right. I love your Instagram. Twitter. I should pay more attention to my Facebook, but my...
Starting point is 01:27:29 You're doing a lot. My Instagram is tune, like the music tune to you and E number two. Tune, Tune, Tune, Tune. You guys will find it. That just like tripped me up. You guys will figure it out. Just start typing in it. Yeah, it'll be in our description of everything.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Also, anything else, obviously we can find you on the Peloton app, phone, see you on the leaderboard. Yeah. That's what they always say. See you on the leaderboard. Well, thank you so much. This was such a pleasure. Yeah, thank you again, Tune Day for joining us. We really appreciate to talking to you. Thank you so much for having me. I had so much fun. This was a great conversation. Yay. And you guys know where to find us, Girls Gotta Eat Podcast.com. Get merch and tickets to our virtual live show in February 11th at Girls GottaEat Podcast on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:28:16 Ash Hess, reina.orgat-eat on Twitter and YouTube.com slash Girls Gottoeat Eat. We'll see you next week. Have a good week, guys. Bye.

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