Girls Gotta Eat - For the Girls vs. Pick Me Girls with Becca Moore

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

We LOVED chatting and laughing with podcaster/influencer Becca Moore on this episode! She shares how being slut shamed by a prospective employer led her to her career today, and then we discuss the opportunistic "friends" (and mean girls) you meet when you first move to a city, and we break down sibling drama in large families. Becca shares her story of realizing she liked women, how she pursued her current partner, and why she had anxiety about hooking up with a woman for the first time. And then we talk about Pick Mes – what makes a Pick Me Girl, why guys can be Pick Me too, and how to handle these people in your friend circle. Before Becca joins us, we're talking about Ashley officiating her first same-sex wedding, Rayna's girl crush, our "imaginary" friends, and why we're about to come to life in the fall. Enjoy! Check out Becca on instagram @becccamooore and tiktok @becccamooore and listen to her podcast For the Girls. Follow us @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit https://girlsgottaeat.com for tour dates, merchandise, and more. Thank you to our partners this week: Nutrafol: Get $10 off your first month's subscription + free shipping at http://nutrafol.com with code GGE10. Caraway: Get 10% off your next purchase at https://carawayhome.com/gge10 or with code gge10. Seed: Get 25% off VS-01 at https://seed.com/GGE with code 25GGE. Bilt: Get points by paying rent at https://joinbilt.com/GGE. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Being around Shannon, now I'm like, okay, I'm like less attracted to men at this point right now in my life. So I don't know. I'm just saying it could happen to anyone. Totally. You could just like unlock a new type for yourself. Yeah. You don't even know about. Yeah.

This podcast is a Dear Media production. Hi guys. Hi guys. Welcome back to another episode of Girls Got to eat. Welcome back. It's Touring. Actually, I have something to live for. Finally.

Why am I doing stuff out in the world if we can't talk about it on stage? I just feel like I've unleashed like the kids. chaos that I need to. Like, Raynal is out. She's here. I did some crazy shit. Reynolds's been defrosting.

I just, and she is about to. I'm back, baby. Yesterday I told you I think I'm attracted to women again. And I just was like, it's Torp month, baby.

Well, I am hot off a lesbian wedding and I got to say, they are elite and I'm going to talk about it. So this is my dream for you. Thank you. It's my dream for me too. It would be so good for the brand. It's just,

I'm kidding. I would just love to see it. I just, I was talking to Melanie this morning and I was like, well, I've gone down on the girls' board. She was like, what? And I was like, you're my best friend. She goes, I thought this was like a schick. And I was like, no.

I did not pretend to eat pussy for the schick of it all. Melanie didn't know you used to hook up with your friend and eat her pussy. Two of them. Because Melanie met that friend. She has met neither of them. She doesn't know her. You have those two friends that I don't think are real. One of them came to your engagement, wink, wink, and I just never saw her.

Okay. So you have met her. Ashley has these two friends allegedly that exist. Wait, who's the other one? Oh, Stella was the one. Stella. Joanna. She's even sound like a fake name. Joanna,

Joanna allegedly came to your engagement. This is so crazy. This keeps happening. So she's my... Ashley's like, it's so crazy. She's my one. She's like had an imaginary friend growing up. Be honest.

Her name was... Her name was Norca. RIP. And I feel like you just brought imaginary friends into a dollode with you. Joanna is my one Boston friend. We've known to her since high school. We went to the summer college program. Well,

The real Joanna please stand up. And you met her in 2020 in the green room, but it was a lot going on. It was chaotic. And yes, she's from Delaware. So she was in Dewey Beach, the night of the engagement. And she was in the same room as you. This is crazy. She was in the same room as you.

She bought us shots. And I was like, I want you to make sure you say how to Raina, but you were talking to someone else. And then she was like, we really got to go. She was with her sister who was like three kids. And they had to get back to the kids. Totally. She also went to high school with Lauren.

and Lee and they weren't there yet. They had a pit stop. I don't know what happened on the way to the engagement party. And so engagement party, I say that loosely. It was impromptu. It wasn't official. We may around have an official. Anyway.

And so they didn't even get to see her. And I'm like, she just was like, a thief of the night. Ashley is famous for imaginary friends. These people are real. I literally went to dinner with her in Boston. I could FaceTime her right now. Do you have photos of her? I never even see a photo this person

Okay, I believe that she's real Anyways, I met a girl yesterday that I was attracted to So stay tuned Whoa, yeah What if she's listening? That she knows I don't know This is a real real real real

I just whatever, we'll see you guys I just I come alive for the tour It's just like finally like spring has sprung Yeah In the fall and I'm just, you guys, I'm ready October That's your month Yeah

If you would have met this girl in October it would be on. Okay. So if you guys were new here, I meet every single important person in my life in October, or we break up in October or their birthday is October. But there is some main major anchor in October. Yeah, well. And my nephew was being born in October. Your nephew?

Yeah. Well, my nephew was. Yeah. See? All the October people. Coffee me. Anyways. All right.

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and free shipping at Nutraful.com with code GGE10. And Seed, get 25% off VS.01 at seed.com slash GGE with code 25 GGE. Okay, a couple things about the tour. Which starts this week, Saturday night in Vegas. Do you remember the 20th? The 21st night of September. Can you believe it?

Can you believe that song is the 21st of September? And it's like a wedding song. That is pretty crazy. Like that's the wedding song. That is pretty crazy. It's Robin Allison's wedding song. You're going to hear that song a lot, you guys. I hope you like Earthwind and Fire because it's on.

Do you remember? And it's kind of hot right now. Jason Tartick posted a reel with it. I think it's like in the real zeitgeist. Oh, okay. All right. Obviously because of us. We brought it back.

I know. Every time we hear about anything. You're welcome. earth, wind and fire. Put you back on the map. Tour started September 21st. You can get all tickets at GirlsGunitatat.com, but we are doing themes for every leg of the tour.

So Las Vegas, September 21st, is going to be a wedding theme. So come in your ugly bridesmaid dresses, your old wedding dresses, dresses a priest, or just dress regular. But you know, whatever you want to do. Yeah, whatever you want to do. You don't want it, not every wants to travel the wedding dress. If I love.

But you can, like, hang in in the Spite-Tennet's closet. It's so funny. People are like, is your wedding weekend? You're like, oh, no, no, no, no. I'm actually going to destroy this in Las Vegas. That is so funny. Like a bunch of wedding dresses on the flights out to Vegas. People are like, what is going on in Vegas?

People usually do this spontaneous. You don't bring the dress. They're one of the girls got to each show. If there's a big plane, what, going from, where is all our fans? Chicago. The flight from Chicago to Vegas is a bunch of wedding dresses. They're like, we already have one in the closet. You can't use the closet.

So that leg of the tour is wedding themed. And then we come home for a couple days. And then Pittsburgh, that week, September. 26, we kick it off Pittsburgh, Indy on Friday night and the Detroit on Saturday night. And that theme will be slumber party. So you can wear sexy PJs, a robe, comfy, dress with your friends. We're matching pajamas, wear their face on the pajamas. So whatever you want, we've seen the whole tour, but those are the ones that are coming up.

And we always ask for submissions. We want to tailor every single individual show to the city. So if you are coming, please email us at Stories at GirlsGatty.com. Tell us crazy tea about the people you are coming with. So roast your friends, your partner, anything that is going on in your group. If there's single guys in the group, we'll auction them off to the room. Anything crazy, email us, any of the shows you're coming to. And just put in the subject line in the city you're coming to.

Vegas, you come with your dad. Let's do a father-daughter dance. You know, like anything that would really go with the theme, I want to see it. Raina, if I look out and there are like full wedding dresses, I'm like getting too excited. I can't handle it. Too excited? And then the summer parties, you guys don't even know what we're going to do with these summer parties. Rain and I were just brainstorming back and forth when we were in Dewey.

And Rain had this idea. I mean, I'm not going to give it away because we're going to give it away at the show. What we're going to do at these slumber parties, do not miss this. I can feel it in my body. I'm too excited and not coming out of sleep. I felt sad we didn't theme the whole tour of slumber party after we came up with the stuff for slum of parties. People are upset. People are upset about New York and Boston.

They just got a color. Listen, we'll make it wild and crazy. You guys. It's New York and Boston. Well, here's the thing with the holiday shows. Again, New York is silver and gold and Boston is red and green. The holiday shows are, there is a theme. They're holiday.

You can dress whatever you want. You can be Santa. You can be sexy elf. You can do sexy reindeer or whatever you want to do. You can always do that. But like the holiday themes have always gotten like crazy. The best. I mean, that's been the first and only thing we did.

So those are always themed. Don't worry. And then we have Halloween, Philly and Portland, Maine. And then Cowgirl, which is Denver, Minneapolis, and Madison, Wisconsin, just so you have all the themes. And again, tickets are at girls got eat.com. But yeah, email us, tell us what's going on your group. And some of these websites are fucking weird. The Pittsburgh website is so weird.

Philly too. So Pennsylvania shows are a hot mess. If it says there's tickets, just poke around. Like it's not obvious where the other roads are. You used to find a different level. Yeah. I'm bummed. Philly looks like that too.

So just. Work on it, kids. Yeah. There are tickets left. Two Boston shows are sold out. A New York show is sold out. Denver is almost sold out. And I think for the most part, there are tickets available.

So just don't be discouraged. And then very last thing, we are selling merch at the show. First time. I mean, listen, we've never done this in six years because it's fucking hard. We are doing vibes only merch. Do you want to see what it is? We're doing very specific types of vibrators at the shows that you are not going to want to miss and they're only available. Yes. And accoutrement. So I guess you guys will see. I don't know. Maybe we won't show anything on social. You'll know it'll be out there in the world. I read it. But I just don't know if we want to. I think we would love to kind of reveal it at the shows what you're going to be able. I mean, you'll see it when you come in.

Yeah, and eventually Ryan will film something and put it up there. Yeah, but they're really going to be so fun. We design this very specific thing just for the shows. You can only get on the tour. So I want to make that clear, too, that this is only available IRL on the no-crums tour, not on the vibes-only website. Yes, and got tons of vibrators on the vibes-only website. I used our air-pulse suction vibe this morning, the Debbie.

I'm guaranteed to black out after an orgasm is my favorite vibrator that I've ever used. Okay. Anyways, that's all the tour. stuff. Okay. So we're back. I feel like you and I have been on the longest. That was a long trip. I mean, we were in Philly and then I went to New York and I came back. I feel like I was on the longest trip ever. And then you just added two more cities. I know. Dover to Dewey to New York. Then I went to Columbus for the wedding, then went to Boston, just rounded it out. I was like, am I ever coming home? It was the longest. I've taken longer trips. And this felt forever.

It really did. It was great. I'm so glad we got to do. be in New York and like record that episode and we recorded an episode of the snack that was all about the engagement. You guys were just so wonderful. The response and the comments and just saying the nicest stuff. And I don't know, I feel like I was during that episode just trying to get through all the questions people asked and try not to cry. And when I really sat and think about it, I'm like, man, like where we've come from New York recording, staying across from each other in my shitty apartment to recording that episode. like full circle in New York.

And I just want to play you a snippet from that episode. Oh my gosh. Because people had been bringing this up and I didn't not remember. But I just... Our first episode? I think you know what I'm going to play. I think so. But like I don't remember our voices back then.

Okay. So we've introduced ourselves. This is the very first episode. This was February 2018. And we were just, I am Ashley. I'm Raina. And then like what's our relationship status? Okay.

So Raina is just going to ask me, are you dating? We don't know each other at all. We barely knew each other. Are you dating? Are you single? I'm trying. I am single. But I'm excited because I'm going to get engaged this year. Six and a half years later.

Yeah. No, I mean, would I like to be engaged this year? Sure. If I find the right person. So, I mean, I'm up for it. I'm not going to just marry and get engaged to anybody. But I see myself kind of like. that moving quick.

You know what I mean? Because, like, I hate most people. So if I find a guy that I'm really vibing with, it's like, let's do this. Is the podcast going to be over? I'm scaring everybody off. If you get engaged, we have to stop the podcast. No, because I got to, I have to date a guy that, like, is fine with, like, sharing all our intimate secrets. Same.

I'm ruining everything. I feel bad for all the people. We're editing this out. I'm about to just destroy our podcasts. We're like. Oh, my God. That's so weird. But, like, it's crazy because, like, I remember.

you started dating him in the end of May and you told me right before your birthday trip you were like I think I'm in love with him and I was like what are you saying to me it's been six weeks like it caught me really off guard and you were like I think I'm in love with him and I think I'm gonna be with him and I was just like what is this bitch saying to me this is crazy that is so crazy but it is very you and it's been you for a very long time like I when I know I'm just gonna know and I'm so glad I didn't get engaged that I mean like obviously and I've gone back and forth in this podcast if you guys have you guys have has been along on the journey of even thinking I wanted to get married, you know, but I don't know if I said that in 2018 kind of kidding. I don't know. Like, I certainly wasn't ready. This couldn't have played out better, you know, and the only reason he and I came together is the podcast. It makes me so emotional, you know, like, I just owe it all to this show. Like, all of the knowledge we've gained and how it's made us work on ourselves and learn so much and become better partners and better people in the world, better friends, better daughters, all the the things and he came along because of the podcast. And I'm so grateful of how it worked out and how

he came into my life. And like it was so worth the weight, you know. And I can't have imagined a better partner. And I just, I don't know, I feel so thankful for it, you know. And so I just feel like the message I want to send is like your person is out there, you know, like, I don't know what that speaks to anybody, but like it took a long time and no for six and a half years, I wasn't like, where is he? You know, like I lived my life. I kind of put it on the backburn. I was like, I'm loving being single. It's all I wanted. It's all I wanted to be single. I wanted to have fun. I wanted to meet people. I wanted to work on myself. And when the right person came along, I felt like I was the best partner I could possibly be. And so, you know, to anyone listening,

just like start a podcast and wait six years and he'll come, you know, just say it out loud and manifest it. No, I'm just kidding. But yeah, I've just been like reflecting on it all, you know, and people brought that up to me. And we saw so many amazing. I did a few shows in New York, a few stand-up shows, and they were coming up. And they were like, remember when you said you were going to engage on the first episode? And I was like, oh, my God, the fact that you remember that. So I feel really, fairly grateful. I feel really thankful. And for him and for him coming into my life when he did. And saying on that episode, like, it has to be someone that's cool with what we do. And, like, he is. And, like, he saw what we did before he even met me. And but I just wanted to play that for you. Someone said one time that we should just play the full first episode and, like, commentate on it. And I'm like, oh, my. God, I don't even know. We just sound young. It's so cute. Yeah.

We didn't really know each other. And there was no reason for me to not believe that you weren't going to make that happen in the next year. I was like, look at her go. But I, and I did just want to say, like, we recapped a lot of the stuff we did with the engagement and with Raina and with my family. And we did go to Boston and we spent time with his family and did like a celebratory brunch with them.

We had these like traditional Indian sweets that you have for like special occasions. And his mom and dad, but, you know, his mom got me in this bracelet. Oh, and it's like a kind of. kind of a traditional, like, it's Indian gold, and just she got this for me. And his sister and her husband gave me this, like, watercolor print of Dewey Beach, where we got engaged. It was just really special. And I had realized this before, like, when you really kind of see where someone comes from and see the family that has made them who they are in every way from, like, being funny, being a great storyteller, you know, being sarcastic to just being really, like, thoughtful and caring. And I really have always thought he is the most thoughtful person.

It's like no one is more thoughtful. And really no one is just like more caring and sentimental. And like I see that in his mom, you know, and it's just, it's nice to see. And it was really great spending time with him. And I got to the restaurant. His mom just gave me a big hug. And I was like, welcome to the family. And it just felt like so sweet.

So we did that. Oh, I love you at such a nice time. Yeah. And they seem wonderful. I'm excited to meet them. Yeah. I'm just happy for you. And then I'll just kind of wrap up what I did when I was apart from Raina.

And I did officiate my cousin's wedding. and that was in Columbus, Ohio. And her story is that she was married before. She married a man years ago. And she separated from him, got divorced, and came out, and she married a woman. And I asked her if I could speak about this. And I just get really emotional because, you know, she wasn't her true self. And I didn't go to her first wedding and I wasn't able to go.

I had some sort of scheduling conflict. But my mom went. And my mom felt like there was a real sadness. And she couldn't really put her finger on it. And she was like, I just don't think it's how, you know, most women are on their wedding day. And to see her at her wedding with her now wife really be her true self. I mean, she lost so much of herself in that first relationship and, you know, being in the closet. And as she went through the separation.

And when she met her now wife, she just came to life. I mean, her family would say, like, we got our daughter. back. My other cousin would say, but I got my sister back. Like, she really found herself and she found the love of her life. And to see them, you just can't, you know, you see two people who are so in love. There's so much joy. There's so much laughter. There's two people that are just truly have found themselves in that relationship. And her wife was out before. Right. And I think she kind of helped her come out. And it was just so special to see. And I think that goes in even the message I said earlier of just like, I think there's someone for everyone. I think sometimes you just, it takes a minute. You have to find them. You have to find yourself. You have to be true to yourself and build a life that you are proud of without that person. And they'll come along and to see her, you know, walk down the aisle as I was standing up there. I got so emotional just seeing the pure happiness. And again, I didn't see her at her other wedding. But, you know, I know from other families members who were there. And it was just a beautiful thing to see. How do you think your performance?

The officiates. So I will say... So you've officiated a lot of weddings. Your brother. This is the third one. So your brother. And Bobby Nisi and then this is the third one. Honestly, I think this is my favorite.

I hate to say that. Why do you think you crushed so hard? The crowd was lit. Gay weddings, top notch. I've never thought to ask how was the crowd at a wedding. It was inside, which is better than outside. Comedy outside. Who's your comedy outside?

Bobby Nizzy, beautiful wedding. It was just on a lawn, though. Yeah. Where were the laughs going to go? There was like issues that Bobby and Izzy. he's wedding. Every time you dropped a, you dropped a punchline. The mic cut out. I was like, mats, I was sweating while you wore an all black jumpsuit. Yeah. So this, I mean, I've loved them all, but this one like hit different. You can tell you, I'm like, let me tell you some of my jokes.

So also people, a lot of people didn't know me. But I will say, like, the girl power in the room at a lesbian wedding. At one point, I was like, the vibe is giving no men on the dance floor. No men allowed. It was just, it was a lot of women, you know, like obviously, I mean, they have friends who were in lesbian relationships. I mean, it was just, the vibes were hot. I mean, it's like our live shows. Find me a better environment. It's all women and like eight men that are with their girlfriends with their behaving. Like boring men ruin everything. So the crowd was hot. It's a comedy show. And I really wanted to hype people up. Like, here's what I don't like about weddings. When the bride comes down the aisle, bride and groom, whatever, two brides, whatever you have.

And you're both up there. It's like a pin drop quiet. There's no walk-up music. Why are we not hyping? Right. So like my cousin got up there and they're standing there and they're obviously like looking at each other so adoringly. And I was like, give it up. Let's get some like noise in the room.

It's so awkward and like stiff. And so I really got the crowd going. And then I said at one point, I said, for those of you who don't know me, you should. They love that. And then I said something else. I said, I recently. just got engaged and a few people were like woo and I was like but to a man boo crush the timing was great I was just like but to a man and then I just like booed people like loved it and then there

were just a couple more things that had to do with them and they have like a karaoke thing like they've been out of karaoke and her wife would say like one of the first time she realized she was in love with her was she saw her like doing karaoke and I stopped and I asked them I didn't they didn't know I was going to ask this I was like do you remember one of the songs that she did that made you you know fall for her and immediately Kesha woman. I was like, hell yeah. Like it just was the vibes were good. Okay. So lesbian weddings only. Yeah. Oh, I love it. Yeah. And it was a little bit smaller. And I was there with my mom and my dad could make it my aunt and uncle. And it was just, it was really special. I feel like I'm nervous about officiating your wedding because like I don't know.

I'm going to be amazing. I really am. But like, am I going to like interview you guys separately? Like, I interview you every week for seven years. Like, am I going to ask you questions? Yeah. So what I do, I'll tell you what to do. I'll send you my template. I mean, what I do is I send each partner a list of questions and have them answer and I weave them throughout my speech or my ceremony, whatever. So they don't really know what's coming. And I don't want to step on their vows.

So I say, like, don't say anything to me that you're going to have in your vows. I'll say your lines. Yeah, I don't want to, like, steal your lines. I don't want to scoop you. And so they're just like hearing stuff that the other said about each other that they didn't know. And so that's really special too. And that's what I did for Matt. stuff and for Bobby and Izzy, but their vows were totally different than the stuff that I said.

And I felt so honored to be a part of their love story in this way. It is really beautiful. And you've met them and they've come to shows. Oh my God. They're so fun. They're such a great couple. They really are. I really wanted to go to the wedding.

I should have come on. I had to go home. I know. So just seeing them in this relationship, you're like, they really got it figured out. And I think we've all seen couples that, like, you can tell they're settling. You can tell this isn't like the peak. happiness that you should feel. And I can't imagine how it would feel to be a queer person and be marrying someone and you're not out and how that must feel. I mean, I can't imagine. So it's got to be

one of the worst days of your life. I'm not speaking for her. But I can imagine for a lot of people, that's the worst thing you can imagine. You're like, I'm signing this life sentence. It's my worst nightmare. And I think about it in reverse, like not even sexuality aside, just the wrong person. I just, I think about it, yes, I was talking about being attracted to a woman. And of course, I do think it's about the person and I could see myself being attracted to women. But like, I mostly identify as a pretty traditional heterosexual person. And unfortunately. I know it sucks.

I hate it. I just, I love men so much. And it's the curse that I bear. I hate it. But like, if I lived in a world where it was the norm for me to date women and I had to be with women and I was forced into that box, literally. It would be a tough life. If that's just like what society expected of me and I had to do this and I really felt like I just want to suck a dick all the time and I just wasn't by societal standards that wasn't like the traditional thing to do and I just went through life sucking no dicks. What you're saying if the norm was to be gay.

If the norm was to be like to be with the same sex couple. How do we get here? I think about this all the time. That's the exact comparison. You don't think that's exactly what it feels like. I am so gay. I am the biggest lesbian on the inside, but I have to be with a man. Like, if you just want pussy so bad and what you are compensated with is dick, how terrible is that?

Right. Yes. So I'm trying to put myself in that scenario in the reverse. Like, if I had to date women and that's just the, and I just had to like figure it out in the world, how I was going to date a woman and there was just no way out. Like, I actually can't wrap my head around this. I think I'd be good with that. No, no, no. I think I'd be like, yeah, I'll do women.

Like, I can't imagine. just wanting dick so. You do, though. You do want dick so bad. What do you mean? Yeah. All right. I guess it's funny to try to think about the opposite.

I can't imagine now. I can't imagine wanting dick that bad. You do want dick that bad. You've only wanted dick exclusively. That is true. But if the norm was pussy, I'd work with it. But what if you craved dick? Who craves it you?

I do. It's true to you. I know, but like I can't imagine a world. Tessa. Everybody in this room. I'm just saying like you would pretend to be into women. Okay.

And you had to live your life like that. You'd be sad at your wedding too. Yeah. If you had to pretend to be into somebody. No. Yeah. So I'd love to see people live in their truth. I do.

Anyways, I'm glad you had such a nice weekend. It was at a continuation of the engagement celebration. Yeah. And now we're done. You know, I got my engagement episode. We got it out on a Monday. We replayed some old content. and this isn't going to be like nonstop engagement content.

And you'll never hear from her about it again. Never. Except this weekend. The whole wedding theme show. So he'll be in Vegas. And Tice does anybody to buy his tickets and come. So he'll be there. I mean, so many people are going to be there.

Ryan's going to be there. Ryan will be there. So many of our friends. Our whole vibes only team. Yeah. Flying out for it, which I'm really excited about. And a ton of our L.A. girlfriends. And I'm just, I'm very excited.

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I didn't realize I like invited myself to hang out with him. I actually was asking him if he wanted to meet me and Jeremy for a drink and he was like, oh, I'm at so well. and I was like, I'll be there in 10 minutes. Like, he didn't ask. Yeah, but Jared is a person that like, if he don't want to see you, he wouldn't tell you his whereabouts. Yeah. Like, I think he's like, here's where I am, come or don't.

Like, I think if he really was like, I do not want to see Raina Greenberg right now. He wouldn't told you where he was. I love him so much. I got there. It was like 4.45. He had a martini in front of him. He was sitting at the bar. And I had one drink.

He had four martinis. And I lightly floated. Maybe he didn't need to order the fourth one. He said, don't tell me what to do. I just love him so much. Too bad you're a lesbian now because it could have worked out with Jared. I don't think he's interested in me like that. I don't think that's the vibe.

You were telling me some of his dating stories. I was cackling. No, one's funnier. He just has the funniest content out there. The funniest content. You were telling me the story. I was like, that is the funny story I've ever heard. Like, is he doing this on stage?

Like, is he even sharing this or is this just another day for him? It's just like another day. It's like a private show for me. Yeah. So that was really great. And then my brother was in town for various reasons, but it was a surprise. He was going to be there. And so he came and met me and I was having drinks.

He said this really weird thing to me. I didn't even tell you. So I was having drinks with Emily Fedner, who's also been on this show. We did an amazing episode with her about her breakup and sort of recovering from that a couple years ago. But her and I were having drinks and Arlen walked in and he goes, this is so weird. I saw her and I was like, that girl's so pretty. And then I saw you sitting next turn.

And I was like, you guys kind of look alike. And I was like, inside thoughts. Yikes, Arlith. Yikes. Are you hitting on me? So that was really like nice and fun. That was so funny. I was like, did you get the ick?

I love it. My brother was so into me. And then you had a comedy show and we saw Frances Ellis. And it just was the whole lineup of podcast people. But I had, okay, I really have like perfect skin. Yeah. It's flawless. There's nothing else on me that I haven't paid for.

It's the only thing about me that's natural. And I get like one zip a year. Ugh. I fail you. I got, it's always in the same spot. It's on my chin right in the middle. Oh yeah. You did have that zit.

Yeah. It's like you're really empowered to talk to me about it. And I got two this year. And you don't really ever get like a big blemish. Do I? You don't. No. I mean, listen, I have great skin too.

It's just dry. Like my skin is aging. Don't get it twisted. But I have never had blemishes. my whole life. But like, again, my skin is dry. People who may be more acne prone have oil your skin and may not have as many wrinkles and like premature aging that I have. You know what I mean? Yeah. You know, there's pros and cons. So, but yeah, I don't really get zits. I just get that one Zit, like once a year. And this one was two. And it was on my chin. And you were like, yeah,

that's ready to pop. And I mean, I don't know. Would you rather have a Zit or a Shalazian? I don't know, Ashley, because I felt like this Zit was like my person. for the whole week. Like every Instagram story I was in, I just like saw it talking back to me. This is crazy. You're saying this to me. Do you know what I had on my eye?

Okay, well, I'm time on me. Did you notice my, we did you for the first half of the episode. No, I know. I'm sorry, but it's like, I would have killed for your Zit. I would have killed for your Zit when my eye was swollen shot and I looked like Quasimoto.

I would have killed for your little chin Zit. I've recovered from my Shalazian. Back to you. my zip on my chin I feel like I couldn't take any selfies all week without looking at it I feel like it just went with me

wherever I went and like as you're talking it just moves because it's on your chin It's got a life of its own I felt it like I can feel it moving with me It was like so painful And because my face is so flawless Otherwise it's just this giant crater on my face And I just it's all I thought about all week

And it was just conceal or anything I tried and it just ate it right up Right It just it was like this Could not be concealed It couldn't be concealed And then I picked it and it was bleeding. And then like you can't really conceal that because people are just like,

ooh, what's on your face? It just looks like a growth. It just looks like crust. If you try to cover it. It's tough. It's just, it's my once yearly Zit.

Just I had to like take around New York with me. Mm-hmm. So the third host of the podcast. Yeah, I felt like it was in that snack episode. I could feel it when I was talking and I got my eyebrows done. They look so good. I meant to tell you earlier.

Thank you. Yeah. Shout out to Ever True. They have locations in New York and Chicago. I go to this girl Kelly. She's phenomenal. I get microblading done. it's pretty much painless.

Like out of 10, it's probably at a one or a two. And I get it done once a year and my high eyebrows are amazing. Yeah, they look perfect. So shout out to them. But she's so up in my face and I was like,

is she going to bring this up? Like, it has been there. Do you know, I've like a long history with this one Zit. It appeared for the first time my brother's Bar Mitzvah. He was 13 and it's in all the photos.

And it comes out once a year. Oh, in that chin? Yes, it comes out once a year right in that spot. I'm trying to think of where I get mine. I don't even, God, it's been so long. I just, I can't relate to this.

I'm just totally kidding. Yeah. I have pretty much recovered from it. Yeah. Oh, no, totally. But people said it could last like a month. Actually, I swear to fucking God, I literally told your fiance. I was like, I don't know if we can do this.

Yeah. If it had stayed as bad as it was that Thursday morning, I don't, I was like, well, he says that I'll be sitting. Should we wear his sunglasses? Yeah. Like, I almost told I freak that he's to like shoot around it. Shoot around it. I was like, do we like cancel? Like, I don't know what to do.

Yeah. So thank you guys for all your support. Well, I'm glad you made it through. Thank you so much. I'm glad we both made it through. Yeah, we're back. So many problems. Yeah.

Ready for the tour. What if I had that Shalazam for the tour? Also, I know I'm saying it wrong and I don't care. I like my pronunciation. How are you supposed to say it? People said it's Shalazion. Someone said it's Kalazion. I'm like wrong.

It's obviously Shah. It feels better to say it like that. Yeah. And then one more thing, as we're recording this weekend, which we will have done it by the time this airs, our second rodeo. Thank God, because I've got to get a return on that hat that I bought. Ikema Sabi and Jackson all. So we did our first rodeo and we're going to the like real deal PBR professional bull riders rodeo here in Anaheim.

We got tickets and I'm so excited, Ashley. We got to wear the hats. I'm just so attracted to these men. Yeah, these are going to be the real deal. Because I mean, what we saw in Jackson was just, it wasn't the pros. Like these guys are going to stay on. I cannot wait to watch it. I'm so am.

Maybe we need to work in there. Yeah. Seriously. I'm so excited. No, because the women. Are they going to have like the women? Do you have a girlfriend there? Yeah.

Those women, I mean, we were shocked at how much the women were the highlight in Jackson, like the barrel racers and just like the women, the cowgirls. And so, yeah, maybe. I'm so excited. All right. Well, we're doing that. That's what we're doing. If anything crazy happens, Raina fuck's a cowboy or a cowgirl.

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I kept getting served your content. I was like, I love this girl so much. She's so funny. And then one day Ashley sent me one of your reels. was like, I love this girl. She's so funny. I'm like, wait, I love her. No way.

What's the hell? Her, like, pick me material. Yeah. Second to none. So we'll talk about it. They drive me crazy. For people who don't know, when did you start TikTok, and influencing, were you like COVID?

Yeah, it was COVID, actually. Yeah, I did things that were for the girls, not the guys in COVID when I was, honestly, it all started because I was about to do a job at 9 to 5, and they found my Instagram and they were like, you can't do this job if you're posting. And I had like 3,000 followers, but they were like, you can't do this job if you're posting bikini pictures. And I was mad. I was like, and then I looked on LinkedIn and I saw that the guys were posting and bathing,

the same guys that were starting the job were posting in bathing suits. And I was like, you're fucking kidding. Like this is, am I allowed to cut out of it? No, it was a church? No, it was a recruiting firm. It was a recruiting. I don't know. What do you mean you can't post bikini picks and work here? You have to tone it down.

And I was, I was not posing like skin. Like, it was a normal girl in college. It was normal. So they were like, you have to take all the pictures down and make your Instagram private and make it Rebecca instead of Becca more. And I was like, okay, this is too much. Like, I can't work at 9 to 5 and then have no fun, like at the end of the day. Like, I'm not allowed to use my Instagram anymore.

Like, hell no. This is during COVID and there are not a lot of jobs. And my mom was so mad. Like, my family was like, what are you doing? Yeah. And I started bartending instead. And I had a lot of free time. So, like, during the day, I would like make, I downloaded TikTok.

and I would make TikToks like making fun of myself and like guys that I dated in college. And I kind of just took off from there. And then I never stopped. And then I ended up getting to quit my bartending job. And I was in Columbus, Ohio. And now I'm in L.A. Oh, my God. I love that story.

Also just that like so many people's story of where they got to in their career comes from being fired or like in your case, like not taking a job or something like that is like such a blessing. I know. I can't believe. That's like what made me. I haven't been like anti men my whole life. It was like that was like, are you kidding me? Like, this is literally like sexism. I can't, I can't believe it.

Why am I not allowed to post whatever I want to, like, it's so annoying. I'm surprised that that still really exists. I mean, there's certain industries I understand. I'm like banking. Yeah. Or like teaching maybe. Maybe teaching, but like to put it in writing. I was a recruiter.

Rebecca? I know. Becca is too silly. Becca is going to give somebody a hard on. I know. Becca, totally fine. That is so insane. Like, can't you sue?

I probably could have. Yeah. Too late now, right. You should post it. Honestly, the email and just tag the company. I love the idea. Well, it was a phone call. I can't.

They were smart. They were smart. They should put it in recording. Oh, my gosh. Okay. You have an interesting story. I mean, you come from five siblings. You grew up in the Midwest.

Big family. Yeah. It was crazy. And we were really poor. Like, so poor. It was terrible. And then, yeah, I mean, I'm lucky now, but I didn't have, like,

a rich family to, like, lean back on. It was kind of scary. We don't come from rich families. Yeah. Well, I was listening to your most recent episode. The most interesting people had to struggle a little bit. I know, definitely. No struggle.

We can't be friends. But I was listening to your most recent episode. And one of you were talking about misconceptions people have about you. And one of them was that you're just like this spoiled rich girl. And you were talking about how you didn't come from any money. You were really poor. And you really just, you created a job out of thin air for yourself.

It's amazing. Yeah, I didn't know. It was like, what the hell I'm going to make money from posting? The first Branddale I did was like, I don't even know. I made like $400 and I was rich for like two months. I thought I was like, woo. Yeah.

Like I've really made it. Yeah. So where are you in the sibling? I'm the fourth one. Birth order. Okay. And what else are they? Girls boys.

It's two boys and two girls. And yeah, I'm a middle one. I've always been like, but they're like half siblings. So except for my little brother. My mom has been divorced three times. Not to call my mom.

No, my dad has two and my mom twice. Yeah. They love getting a born. I love getting divorced. Yeah. I'm glad to. Are you guys close?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We grew up all in the same, like, so my mom doesn't like when I say half siblings. I'm not supposed to say that. So I hope she doesn't watch this. Sorry, Mom. Because we're all like her kids, so we're not supposed to show. Got it. Okay.

Yeah, we are close. I just find, like, big families like that so fascinating, like the dynamics, you know, and my sister-in-law is one of five. And I was on vacation recently with my boyfriend. And we got talking to this girl sitting next to at this bar. And she had this, like, family of five siblings. she was telling us all the tea about them all, like, who was in a fight? Like, her one sister missed the flight to come celebrate her birthday, and she felt like

it was on purpose. And she was telling us where, I was just, like, so invested. No, I love it. Like, I love sibling drama and I love, like, talking shit about my siblings and my mom trying to get her to be on my side about things. Like, it's so fun. Who's the youngest? My little brother, yeah.

He was kind of like the forgotten child. No, the fifth. No, the fifth kid. No one cares about that. My uncle John, no one cared about him. He just raised himself. Like, he just was, like, alone in the world. I know.

Like the youngest sibling of like four plus kids like no yeah you're done at that point yeah why did I even have and a lot of times they're just like fuck this family like I've seen it where they're like fuck all y'all they like move to a different country they're like I'm out of here this is so sad I feel bad talking about like probably his trauma but we would like go out to eat and sometimes forget to invite him and he was like in the house he'd like in the basement I have a friend who she has four kids and there was a big gap between the older two. and the younger two. And she just called the younger two, the B list.

And they, like, wouldn't get to go on vacations. Like, she's like, we're bringing the A team. And, like, the B list would just have to stay at home. And the least they would have each other. But, like, the youngest, youngest sibling. No, I know. My older brother is, like, the celebrity, though, because he's, like, the one no one can get a hold of.

And, like, if he shows up, it's like, oh, my God, we're all really excited. Jordan's coming to know. If he was eyes to your text. Is he the oldest of the five? It's a boy. Those people are monsters. They are a superstar and they know it.

And everyone is, like, everyone is. less important than them. My dad is the second in a line of five kids and his oldest is his older brother. My dad is 78 is still traumatized. We're growing up like this. He'll be like, well my, your grandma loved Harry so much more than me. I'm like, 80. Oh, forget it. The first kid should always be a girl. I'm sorry. And I know you can't control that, but like an older brother, get out of here. Everyone should have an older sister. Like, I just stand by that. I know you can't control it, but. I know. I agree with you. Again, if you do not have your you can.

She'll be doing IVF. Oh my gosh. I think the first real I ever got served of years, you were talking about moving to L.A. and what L.A. girls were like. Do you remember these? I know. I kind of regret doing that one.

I didn't realize I didn't realize we'd like get canceled from that. At first I thought people liked it, but then I, well, I did move here from Ohio and it was a culture shock, but I hadn't found, like, the right friend group yet. So I was hanging out with girls that probably, like, they're like the starter, L.A., like, friend. You know, like, the ones that you, like, find, and they're, like, random Instagram girls that I was hanging,

out with but yeah I just felt like they were so different from my friends back home and I was just commenting on like the influencers that I was meeting like some of them were so crazy you guys like so like evil like in real life so I was like complaining about it and then I mean I guess now I stop hanging out with those people so I don't really have any of those problems anymore but yeah I shouldn't have probably was but that's how it happens and this is not LA specific I mean pretty much LA New York though wherever people are wanting to have those types of careers like you run into those type of people. I know and I was shocked it was like oh my god I can't believe you guys are real like there are real like evil people in the world yeah there's a lot of people that it's opportunistic for them to

cosplay as your friend online and look like you guys are having fun together you hear this all the time from girls being like I don't have any actual friends the influencer world those girls are so mean but we like pretend to be friends on the internet yeah and obviously not all of them but I mean I've been invested in these two 23 year old New York girls like about there's this drama with this guy oh my god me too yeah Polly and Sophia. Yeah. I'm like, am I good?

Like, why am I obsessed with these girls? And I'm like analyzing their personalities. I don't want Sophia to stop though. I know that's, I'm sorry, Hallie, but she is so fun. Sophia is crazy.

Sophia is a born villain. I know. She's playing into it. Wait, let's tell people what this is. Okay. So, okay.

Go for it. Oh, okay. I don't know. Hallie had a boyfriend and they broke up because, I don't know why they broke up. There, yeah. And she was like friends with this Sophia girl who like,

but they weren't really kind of friends. They went to like an influencer event. And then Hallie was complaining about her boyfriend to Sophia that night at the influencer event. By the way, I am so sorry if I'm telling this wrong. If I'm getting details wrong, I don't know, Holly. I don't know, Sylvie. I'm sorry. It's not a political platform.

You can get a couple details around. But I guess Sophia DMed her boyfriend that night, like her ex-boyfriend. Her recent boyfriend. Sophia stands by everyone was single at the time. Everyone was single at the time. She said that 20 times in her dream. So I know that everyone was single at the time. And then they went on a date and Hallie obviously right.

was a little bit upset and then it started a war between them and Sophia kind of played into it. She was like, your ex looks good on me like saying crazy things like as if it was like Jersey Shore or something like going in. Like she was just like down to be the villain and Hallie like did a podcast episode with her boyfriend because they got back together after. Yeah. So they got they got back together and that's when Sophia came and did like the story time like a year later. Because people were saying that like Hallie's boyfriend was being kind of. dry on the podcast and not really being like fun on the podcast so everyone

was like being kind of ganging up on poor Hallie being like break up with your boyfriend break up with your boyfriend and that's when Sophia was like I think he's so charismatic like on our dates like he's so fun like such a sweet guy he's so hot great looking guy and it's like you can't really say that about someone else's boyfriend I know like

they're currently dating probably don't do that and the entire internet is kind of going at Sophia now yeah I I couldn't stop. I got so invested in this. And I'm not even picking a side. I think that Hallie may have exaggerated their friendship, like, because she had to text her and be like, hey, it's Hallie, which means you're not close enough to even have your numbers programmed. There is that. I still think, it just, Sophia's like a villain in her soul. You can feel it come through,

but I think she's an actress. So she's like, did she have a following before this? I know, Hallie was the original girl that got punched in the face. Yeah. And came out in the New York Post and this whole thing about people getting punched in the face on the streets in New York City. But was the other girl, like, an influencer? Yeah, she had, like, a podcast. She's at, like, she's a TikTok. She's at this influencer event with Hallie. Yeah, they were, they met through work.

Okay. But I think I would, like, exaggerate. I don't, not saying that you're exaggerating, Hallie. But if I met someone like Sophia, I think I would try to get my point across to tell people, like, how insane this was, she was yamming my boyfriend. I would be like, guys, I was friends with this girl. Like, you know, like, you have to, like, be, like, explain the story in a certain way to make it. Totally.

It makes sense to other people. But then you have Sophia. on the other hand being like we met three times. That's what she keeps saying. She's like, here's how I get canceled by a girl. I met three times or something like that. Yeah.

Your work. But there's just a lot of context and like we don't know the whole story. But I got so deep into this. I know. And I love how Sophie is playing into it. That's why I'm like, don't stop, girl. Like I want to see what happens next.

Like I like it. You have to have a thick skin or not read the comments because they are. She did a fake crying video. She was like, guys like someone said that they wanted me to get assaulted. Like punched in the face again or just like Halli did or something. and she was like crying, crying, crying. And then at the end of the video, she's like,

you guys think I'm going to cry about this? I don't care. No, she's Regina George in real life. Yes, real. Regina George. Their personalities could not be more different. Like, the way they speak their tone and cadence. Like, you're almost like, how did this guy even date both of them?

Imagine having your own personal Regina George is bullying you online though, being like your boyfriend was hot. I don't care. Like, that's crazy. But nobody is on her side. I don't know. Like, she's getting dragged. But I think she likes it.

I really think she likes it. She's getting dragged. I'm like, I don't know. But I do love mean girls. Like, I love the movies. So I'm like watching it. I'm like, fuck yeah. Yeah, we have one in front of us on TikTok.

Free to watch. Awesome. Yeah. I like it. This is how keep going, girls. I really like it. Anyway, I don't know how we got here. I don't either, but I love internet trauma.

I really love it. But yeah, you guys get invested if you want to be a part of that. Yeah. Can we talk about your dating life? Oh my God. Yeah. Okay. So you recently came out on TikTok and said that I've been in a relationship with a woman for the first time in my life.

Yeah. Well, you said I'm actually for the girls, which is so incredible. That was your brand before. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it was weirdly foreshadowed. I know. I had no idea.

I really didn't know until I met Shannon that I couldn't like a girl. Yeah. So you always dated men, always in relationships with men. Did you find yourself attracted to women? Or it never crushed your brain? So honestly, in Columbus, Ohio, there were not a lot of, like, the specific brand of lesbian that I think I realized that I'm now attracted to. There weren't a lot of, like, in between masculine and feminine.

like Shannon's kind of in between masculine and feminine as a girl and I've never seen roles like that in real life and them be like really hot to me so I would see them on TikTok though and I would be like okay that girl's hot yeah there was that one couple that I just got like really deep into where I was like they're the more masculine one is like very sexy yeah yeah I didn't realize that these people were like real and they're like walking around the earth and when I saw Shannon I was like holy shit like I like her like her like the way I would like a guy yeah and and So I kind of like pursued her the way I would kind of pursue a guy and everything has been just like kind of the same. I always thought it would be like weird. Like I don't know what I thought before, but it's so normal. Like it doesn't. Yeah. It feels like so fun. How'd you guys meet at a music video shoot?

She was like. Oh my God. So Chriselle and. I know. I know literally. And G flip. Yeah. I met a music video shoot and she was a creative director and I was doing a cameo.

And I was supposed to say like things that are for the girls, not the guys, which is also foreshadowing. But I saw her. And I was like. Oh my God, why do I like that? It turns out it was like a lesbian music video shoot and I didn't really know what I was walking into. I just kind of agreed and showed up. And I started saying, why am I attracted to that girl?

And everyone was like, do you know who that is? It's Shannon Beveridge. She's like an icon. And I had no idea. So I looked her up in the bathroom. And then like all day I was like looking at her like following her around trying to be in her eye line the entire day. And she did not pay attention to me at all.

Was it her ex-girlfriend's music video? Yeah. They weren't together at the time. Yeah, no. I did do her ex-girlfriend's music video, but I didn't know that they dated or anything about it. So I brought that up to her, like on the first day we met because I didn't know that they had dated.

I was like, because she came up to us and was like, has anyone here been in a music video before? And I said, oh my God, yeah, I was in Fletcher's music video. I was like, it was so fun. She was so cool trying to like make myself seem like I knew, like, lesbians. like and I knew. And then she's like, that's my ex-girlfriend, but that's awesome. And the entire time I was just like trying to make it up to her.

I was like, I'm so sorry for talking about your ex-girlfriend on the first day that we met. So to clarify, you did not meet her on the set of Fletcher's music video. No, no. That was separate experiences. Separate experiences. I just brought it up to her. I was in like a Fletcher weekend mode. No, I don't know if that's weird for you.

Well, you also like her two years. You're in her music video. Team Fletcher, you guys. Can you imagine? No, sorry. It's like, yeah, I mean, I love her music too. It's crazy, though. I can't believe what I did that.

I'm so embarrassed. But, yeah. That is so funny. Like, you were trying to flex and she was like, thanks for bringing up my head. My ex-girl friends. And that's when everyone was like, do you know who that is? Like, it's so obviously you don't know who that is. And I think because I did that, she thought I was straight the entire day.

So she wasn't, because, like, if I didn't know the lore between them. Yeah. Because they had, like, such a played out relationship online. And it was. Yeah, the lesbian drama. A lot of drama. So, and I had no idea about it. So I think she was like, okay, this girl is just straight.

Like, I don't, not interested in her. And then I had to, like, DM her. So you put you at her. Yeah, I didn't. I love that you say that this was just the exact same as dating a man. Like, there's no difference for you. Except we are, like, I mean, there are differences in positive ways. Like, we are closer, I feel like emotionally, like, than I've ever been with a man.

So, I don't know. It's, like, better than dating a man. Yeah. You came out on the internet. Like, what did you come out to your family? Like, yes, I did. It was scary. We were dating.

From like, I mean going on dates from like January to May and I told my family in May. I mean from January to now, but like I told my, I waited a lot of months to tell my family because I was like, yeah, I don't, I want to make sure that we're actually like going to be dating, dating, dating before I tell them. And I went home and I was like, I have to tell you something. And everyone thought, I think they thought I was pregnant because of the way I was like, I have something to tell you guys. and like I was like getting emotional about it and they were I heard my sister whispered. I think that's what you would think. Did your oldest brother come or he had a celebrity event? The youngest brother wasn't invited.

He still doesn't know. He still doesn't know. He has no idea. But yeah, I told them and they were like, oh my God, like we literally thought you were pregnant and they were like really, but you know what? I am a little bit annoyed that I feel like I got outed on the internet before and my mom found out before but I like kind of. to deny it because I was like, yeah, people were like making videos being like, Becca Moore and

Shannon Bevers are dating. And I was like, please don't do that. Yeah, let me control the narrative. Yeah. That was annoying. But other than that, it was really positive, honestly. It was. Your family was really supportive. Do you think of this is just, you know, you hear everybody identified differently? Like, do you just think this is about the person? I love this person? I don't identify as anything if I don't feel like it. I know. Yeah. I guess I'm technically bisexual, but I don't feel like I'm, I just like who I like. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like, I mean, labels are good for some people, but for me, I think, or maybe it's just my internalized, like, biphobia, but I'm like, that's a hard word for me to accept because I haven't

felt that way in my whole life. So it's crazy to me. It's just like a mind. Yeah, kind of. I'm like, I guess I'm bisexual. It's crazy. I don't know. Then it comes down to the whole, like, why do we need them anyway? People are so obsessed with it. And it's like, I don't know how to tell you. I was with men before. I'm with a woman now. That's just what it is. Yeah. Like, I don't feel different than I did seven months ago. or eight months ago. So I don't know. It feels like they're for other people.

I think the labels just people really, they feel more comfortable if they can say like she is this. Yeah. Rather than like, I don't know how people are fluid. You can date men in the whole life, date a one woman, go right back to men.

Like what's the difference? Right. Like why does it? I know. Yeah. It's been a big difference to people. People are like strong reactions. I've lost some followers.

Yeah. But I don't want the people that are like homophobic to follow me anyway. No. Not at all. So I want to kind of back up. You DM'd her and said what? Oh, my God. You don't have to tell.

No, no. Did you, like, kind of hit on her to start? Yeah, because I knew that she thought I must be straight. Yeah. I mean, I guess she, like, follow me on TikTok and, like, she... Well, you are. Yeah, I was. At the time.

She, like, I ended up going up to her, like, twice to be like, I'm so sorry about bringing up your ex-gover. I don't know. Both times she was like, it's fine. Like, I don't care. And then I think she was, like, trying to make me feel better. So she was like, I follow you on TikTok, by the way. Like, I love your videos.

And I was like, oh, my God, don't watch. And I was like, she's probably going to see all my videos about guys. So in my head, I was like, okay, I have to make the move. Like, I know I have to make the move. And I went on Raya, actually. I went on Raya and I tried to set my thing to girls, like, to all girls and, like, look for her because I saw her over her shoulder on Raya during the shoe. Now I'm like, Shannon, why were you on Raya during the shoe? It kind of makes me jealous.

I'm like, ew. I'm right what I was right here yeah I was sitting behind you and so I went on Raya changed it to women and never found her and that took like two days so then I ended up DMing her and being like because she posted a Q&A box and it was like ask me anything about relationships and I was like what do I do if I think I love you you said that yes yeah wait that's perfect I'm so bold I love a question box slide in I had a guy one time slide it I was asking for LASIC recommendations and this guy was like hey I'm like, we love to take you to dinner. I'm like, we ended going out. You did? Did it work out? No, it was just like a friend vibe, but it was like, it's funny to shoot your shot in a question box.

I know, because that way you're actually looking for responses and like, you know, it's like not like a random cold sliding. Yeah, yeah. But she didn't answer that. Wait, really? So that was a booze. She's like, would this straight girl leave me alone? I know. She's so straight.

So then you had to forwardly just DM and be like, hey. No, I gave up. I was like complaining about it to everyone. I complained about it to my manager who knew. her and my manager was like oh my god she ended up butt dialing shannon which is crazy my manager butt dialed Shannon and she was like oh my god I was trying to call my mom or my dad or something I don't know because like I think her mom's name is Sharon that's a mom name yeah yeah but I thought it was her dad Shannon says I've been telling this story wrong so I thought it was her dad anyway she butt dialed

Shannon and she was like oh my god I was trying to call my mom but my client becca was like in love with you like she keeps she dm'd you why didn't you answer manager is messy well now I'm like thankful no in a good one yeah so embarrassed she didn't tell me that until like three dates in our agent never helps me fuck anybody he tried with me once with you one

he's saving me for himself yeah I know I think he wants to you for himself yeah I think she was just like sick of me talking about because I was like not only do I like this one girl I also was like oh my god I must not be straight like I really I realized that. Yeah, lots going on. Yeah. Yeah.

So she was, like, sick of me talking about it. And she knew her and she just said that to her. And then she was like, oh, my God, I didn't see that. I don't know if she's telling the truth or not. I don't know. Were you, like, obviously you were having, like, conflicting emotions. Like, I thought I was straight my whole life, you know, and here I am, like, pursuing this woman.

Yeah. But, like, leading up to even you guys going on your first date or your first hang, were you, like, scared? Yes. Like, what's about to happen? Like, this feels like a big deal. It was, like, I was honestly. Like, I don't want to downplay it.

Yeah, I was most scared of like the hookup thing. Yeah. I was like, how do you hook up with a woman? Like before our first date, I was so scared that we're going to hook up. I was like, oh my God, how do I hook up with it? I leaned on every lesbian I knew. Like I really went back in my Rolodex and I was like, who all doing? Is that the right word?

I thought you meant lesbian. I didn't expect you to know that word because that's a word from like the 1900s for sure. I just keep hearing people say that. So I tried to use it for this. No, you did a really good job with that. That's that good. Do you even know what it is? No, what it's here.

Let me want to say. You really don't know what to roll it. It would like, it would be like on people's desks before cell phones and before computers. It was just like, and it had like little cards for each person. It would say like Becca Moore and your phone number and like where you lived. And like maybe like a little information about you like blonde hair, blue eyes. And like people would roll through them. It was in like a circle.

Yeah. Like a spinner. Never seen it hold out. I'm a desk with this lesson. No, what I do? Well, now I do. Hell yeah. We should do that.

We should give a millennial lesson. I feel like my dad might have had one on his desk. Oh, totally. And I watch Mad Men a lot. So they used to have it. That was in, when Harry met Sally or something. Old movies. Yeah.

Okay, so you've, all the lesbians in your roll-in-x. Yeah. And you were just asking, like, what do I do? Yeah, I was like, how do you hook up with a woman? Literally, you have to tell me exactly how to do it. Yeah. And they were like, you're going to be fine. You'll figure it out.

And I was like, ugh, just tell me. Like, I just want to know how to actually do it. No one would tell me. And then I kind of, I just keep keeping. Literally, care keeping it. They're like, we had to figure it out on our own. You figure it out. You don't know what?

I literally did. That's how people asked me how to start a podcast. I'm like the same way I actually did on the internet. People ask me that too now and I'm like, I'm nine episodes and I do not know. I'm Googling everything. At this point in the game, you just got to Google that shit. Everyone has a podcast. Everyone can figure it out.

The dumbest boys figure it out. Oh my God. I know. Right. Boys can do it. But I sympathize with how you feel because like I do think the women's body. Men have complex bodies. Women really have complex bodies.

Every girl that I am friends with that we are friends with likes a different. We own a sex toy company. They like a different type of stimulation, penetration, speed, vibration. Talk to me. Don't talk to me. Like, I don't know a lot of men that are that varied in the ways they come. But at least we have the same part. I mean, we have the same bodies.

Right. It is easier in that way. Like, you do kind of know what to do because it's your own body. You have the same part. But men, like, you know how to make them feel good. Like, you know exactly what to do to make them feel good. And it's kind of like a one size fits all usually. Yeah.

situation, but with women, it's like, oh my God, who even knows? Like, I don't. I guess my feeling would be like once you start getting turned on in the heat of the moment, you figure it out. You really do figure it out. You're touching, feeling, rubbing, whatever. Like, it just, I can imagine a world. Like, we, it's so funny to talk about stuff sitting here podcasting when we're not

turned on. Like, we're just, you know, cold and dry. And, like, when you get in the moment, you're like, you're a different person. Yeah, it is kind of like something to do. Like, I don't know that person. I definitely, yeah, it's embarrassing. Yeah. I'm like, oh, God, I don't know.

But, I mean, for me, I had a couple of glasses of wine before. Yeah. Yeah, alcohol helps. Yeah, it does help. Alcohol really helps. And you kind of just like, once you're turned on, you just kind of like get braver, you know? Yeah, that's what it is. I swear to God.

Once you're turn, you'll figure it out. Yeah. Yeah. The first time I ever, like, kissed a girl. I also went down on her. Like you just zero to 60. I just, I was like, I've watched so much lesbian porn. I've watched hundreds of hours of lesbian porn.

Yeah. Well, great call on that, too. I'll figure it out. Yeah. You know? But that's a good call too to watch lesbian porn. Watch porn. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It seems a lot scarier in porn, I think. Like, it seems like more like weird. Well, it sets a crazy standard that your average person is not going to adhere to. You know, of course, like body standards and the way that you act. Yeah.

I also think with a woman who knows it may be new to you and will help you guide you through it. Oh, my God. She was so normal. It was so normal. It wasn't scary. I wasn't scared the second. started making it so that's right wow I really love this I love your story actually I've never talked about that online the hooking up thing with a woman well I'm glad we talked about it because I

feel like that's what most people are thinking that is like when people click on these video like I was watching a bunch of podcasts of people talking about like dating a girl for the first time and I wanted them to get to the sex part the entire time I was like right talk about it yeah I don't know I just love what you said of like essentially you were just sheltered yeah Ohio that's no shade ohio no we love Ohio we're just talking about how we love Ohio you're just talking about how we love Ohio You're just like I didn't see this type of person. Yeah, it didn't ignite anything. I didn't get, it came to me later in life that I realized, oh my God, I'm attracted

to this type of person. And then being around Shannon, now I'm like, okay, I'm like less attracted to men at this point right now in my life. So I don't know. I'm just saying it could happen to anyone. Totally. You could just like unlock a new type for yourself. Yeah.

You don't even know about. Yeah. So the whole brand of like for the girls was like making fun of guys? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It was like saying things that mentioned be allowed to have. I would be like, men shouldn't have sunlight or anything like that.

Oh my God. Okay, like, what else? Like, what else do people, like, what was really popular in that vein? It's just kind of like, once you start, you can't, like, silverware, like, you can eat with your hands, like shelter outside, you're fine. Right. And like blankets. It's like, okay.

And I feel like, like, secure guys who get it are like, that's true. We shouldn't. We don't deserve it. Ambrales. Yeah. So you have this content about Pick Me Girls. I want your, all your thoughts. and feelings. We pulled our audience. Well, I think Pick Me People. Pick Me People. We'll get a

Yeah. But I think it's like this Pick Me Girls become this thing, but it's like it doesn't have to be. Yeah, I'm not trying to pick on the girls. Exactly. I'm just saying it's a brand of girls that are like this. It's a brand of girls. We also think people can grow up and change their behavior. Yes, 100,000%. But the definition I pulled from the internet and then I'll talk to you about this. In a nutshell, subconsciously or intentionally a Pick Me Girls hope is to garner attention and seek validation from men by distancing themselves from other women and their quote unquote cringe feminine behaviors. Instead, they zero on its stereotypical masculine interests and takes, even if they don't actually believe or support them. They'll often do this at the expense of other women denouncing the parts

of themselves that are inherently associated with femininity. The vibes are much more. Let's play video games and split a six pack and much less. Let's watch Love is Blind and look up our astrological compatibility with our crutches. You just know these girlies. And the tagline of all pick me girls, I'm just not like other girls. I'm not like other girls. Yeah. That is so phenomenal. What a great definition. I crowds switched from like four different articles.

I just like pulled different lines that I liked. That was crazy. That was really good. I mean, the whole thing is yes, I'm not like other girls. And this is why they don't get along

with other girls. Because the way that women bond is because we like the same shit. Like I'm the first to say like all the basic shit. Like we like the same things. That's how we bond is in our similarities. And of course we all have differences. We're all our unique people.

But it's just like so funny. Because it's like to say, if you're a pick. me and you wonder why women don't like you. It's because you're over here saying I'm not like them. And I just don't get along with them. I don't want to be like them. Yeah. And they're the ones bonding with each other when you're on the outside because you've chosen to be. So right. Yeah. I think that at its core, it's like it's not being a girl's girl. Yeah. It's because you want male attention so badly that you're willing to like sacrifice your entire gender over it. Right.

Yes. It's really prioritizing men. I do. I think it can stem from different things. I think that some girls do experience really negative experiences with other women for so many years. And they're just like, well, I don't get along with girls. They're mean to me. They pick on me. Like, if you're the prettiest girl growing up, you big boobs, and you're so sexy and other girls are mean to you and they're jealous. And you're like, well, I get along guys.

They're nice to me, you know? And I understand a lot of this comes from insecurity and negative experiences with other women that you're just sort of like, well, that's my personality now. And like tomboy sometimes. Like if you, you know, you can grow up where you are like one of the guys, you've chosen to like dress a certain way, play sports and like women bully you for it. and you grow up and you're like, but it's never, it's never actually like the tomboy.

Like Shannon was a tomboy growing up and she had all women friends. They all liked her. Like she was just a normal girl. Because you bond with women playing sports and stuff like that too. So it's not even that. It's like a different type of thing. It's like it's disingenuous. Yeah, it's not being real about what you actually like. It's being like, oh, I like football. But that's because you Googled it and you had to learn all the rules. Like you're not actually passionate about football. Like I feel like normal people, if they really are into football and beer,

they don't care if girls are. They want everyone to be into it too. Like they're normal about it. They're not like other girls don't like it. Like I like it. Also, I think it was gone girl that like called it like the cool girl. Like the cool girl persona. And that was like the same thing.

Just always trying to be chill, be cool. Like please men. And that's kind of transformed into the picnic these days. Six pack of beer watching football on Sundays. And I think baked into this personality type is also the need to let other girls know that you don't care about these stupid things that they do at their expense. Like taking selfies and wearing out. outfits and do makeup and looking cute for guys and it's just like oh I would never do that kind of stuff. Right. And it makes you feel bad about yourself. It's like, oh my God, it looks like you tried

really hard today. I love that. Good for you. Good for you. Your time. I want to play your, this is like one of my favorites of yours. We'll just like play it because then I want to like break it down. Here's some random things that I think are a little bit pick me. Number one is being friends with your friend's boyfriends like separately from your friend. Your friend's boyfriend should be like your loose acquaintance at Ben. Honestly with an undertone of enemy. Number two, staying friends with your friend's ex-boyfriend after they break up. What do you guys have to talk about? They should live in constant fear of running into in public.

Constant fear. Making someone feel embarrassed if they dressed up, like if you walk in and the person's like, oh my god, someone looks fancy. Where are you going after this? A wedding? You know, I just usually wear sweatpants and sweatshirts. That's just me. I'm different than you.

I'm better than you. One time I curled my hair for Thanksgiving and my cousin walked in and was like, oh my god, Becca, your hair is curly! I can tell that took a lot of effort. I can't watch this I'm cringing Yeah I can't watch myself Oh my god sorry

No it's up to you The thing about the outfits and shaming people I'm just I'm just a sweatpants girl I mean it's letting everybody know that like The baseline of like feminine things that we connect about It's just stupid and they're above it It's just being like anti-feminine Like I even had a friend who

Was like super liberal But around men she would turn like really conservative And be like I hate feminist stuff Like stuff like that And it made me so mad because I knew it wasn't how she actually felt. And also saying like the word female, like derogatory. Like, you know?

Yeah. I'm not like other females. I'm not like that. If you're not saying it in the context of male, like if you say male and female, you're talking about genitalia or whatever. I also think you grow out of it. Like I've always been like a girl's girl. My girlfriends are everything.

But I do feel like when I was younger and I was like blogging and it was like more in my 20s. I didn't want to be like a feminist. You know what I mean? I was still liberal though. I don't know what it was. I just felt like I wanted to be in with the guys or something. I don't know how to really describe.

it and I look back and like some of it's cringe. So I just want to say like we all kind of come grow out of these behaviors. I've had those moments too. And I think about them when I'm falling asleep and I'm like, oh my God, when I was like 19 and I was like making fun of my other friend for being too skinny. And I'm like, what? Fuck you, Becca. Yeah.

We like grow up. Like in front of guys. I was doing stuff like that. Yeah. I don't know. You just grow up and you realize it. It's better to be normal and like the things that you like. If you like Taylor Swift, like Taylor Swift, who cares?

Yeah. I just love the being friends. Like with your friends X. I know. Yeah. Why? Why? Why? That's like one of the biggest red flags. I just love that you're like, they should be your enemy.

Yeah. Like if you see them at a bar, you don't have to go up and be like, oh my God, I'm like so sorry what Sarah did to you. Like, it's so crazy. Like, shut up. Like, who care? Like, you are supposed to be on my side if you're my friend. Yeah. But baked into this personality is like all of that. It's like weird boundaries with men. And weird boundaries were like people. One girl told me once. She was like, yeah, you know, I've had problems with other girls because like, you know,

okay like for example this girl she just felt like I like kind of touched her boyfriend a lot and I was like well did you touch him on she was like yeah but I'm just flirty by nature oh that's not a thing I was like well is that something you maybe like want to work on because that that would be a problem with most women I you let me watch you touch my man that's crazy I dare her to touch my man that's and then she was like no not really like she her feeling was that like that's a you problem that you've a problem not a me problem and I'm like nobody's gonna be friends with you I know we heard like she had her hand on like one of our friends boyfriend's like what No

Like I've lost my mind Like I'm sorry This is not okay Do you not touch my man That's how badly you need Besides like the hug when you see him You know what I mean Like if I looked over a rain

I was like stop it Ew Ew You don't have to be like laughing with them You're laughing at my boyfriend's joke Stop Yeah you should always be a little suspicious It's almost your enemy

Yeah exactly It's almost an enemy it should be. We all have this friend. Yeah, I know, I know. I know. So, like, if you like a guy, she likes that guy. Yes.

Yes. If you are sitting at a bar with her and you're like, how hot is that guy? Suddenly she's just like, well, he was into me. What can I do about it? I mean, take it as a compliment. I feel like you have to take that as a compliment if they all of a sudden always want the man that you're with. But you can never trust a girl like that.

Like, I've had friends like that too. And I'm like, if I'm scared a little bit to tell you about my crush because I feel like protective, like territorial over the crush. Like, that's a red flag. Like why do I feel like I have to be like, he's mine, he's mine or she's mine, I guess, you know. That's when I know. And I'm so willing to be like, okay, I don't want to hang out with you anymore then goodbye. If I feel like you're an undertone of like competitive.

Yes, competitive with guys. Yes. I think that they rationalize it in their brain by being like everyone's jealous of me. Like girls are just jealous of me. He's just into me. What can I do? Yeah, it's not my fault. He was into me.

Like it's like, but you're opening up a door for him, like touching his leg. Like, yeah. If I'm out in the world with a girlfriend of my, mine and I see a man and I'm like I'm attracted to him. There is a code like seven to 20 day just you can't touch him. Yeah, you can't talk to him. Like let me have a shot. I've identified this first. What is it? It's not a fatwa. It's like that person is in my jail. Like that that's mine for a few days. Okay. And then like in three weeks time if you want to take a shot, that's fine. But if I'm out in the world of my friend, I'm like, that guy's hot. I like him. And for you to be like,

you know what me too? I'm going to try this also. But what about a girl that always calls dibs. Like, no matter what. I do hate those too. I will say. Because you can't just call dibs on everybody. I know. I think you're supposed to know who goes with who. Yeah. Like, Reena has a very specific type. Like if we walked into a place, if like, let's say we're both single and we

walked in and I see this like bald bearded bouncer. Covered in tattoo. I wouldn't dare. I'd be like, that's Raina's type. And she's my best friend and that's, she has dibs immediately. Yeah. Like girls, girls, when we're all together, we like, know the rules. It shouldn't even be a problem. Like, I feel like you should be able to figure out in your mind, like, who

matches up the best and actually think about it. Like, if you aren't normally into bald guys with tattoos and all of a sudden when she likes a bald guy with the tattoo, you're all of a sudden, maybe I could try it. Like, shut up. Just let her have her bald guy with the tattoos. It would be crazy if I walked into a bar with a friend and I saw a tall bald guy with tattoos and they were like,

that's mine. That would be, that would be friendship ending for me. Yeah. No, Raina would just be like, I don't know to handle this. Oh my gosh. Okay. So again, it just doesn't have a gender. Pick me, guys. Yeah. I want to hear your definition. Okay, so I think it's the type of guy that, first of all, obviously, we all know, like, the nice guy, the overly nice guy that, like, is doing favors for you that you didn't ask him to do. And then he feels like you owe him something. Like, this is so bad. And I don't even want to bring this up. But actually, I'm going to bring it up because it just happened. This guy wrote me a song, like, two, a year ago. And I didn't, I feel so sorry. I'm sorry if you're watching this. Like, you're such a sweet guy. Like, he wrote this, like, beautiful, like, love song for me. Yeah. And he took it off of Spotify. the second I got in a relationship with someone else.

And like, you won't let me listen to this song. It was such nice. Like, if you're doing things not in a genuine, like, like, he was my guy friend and he did this. Yeah. If you're only being my friend because you think maybe we'll hook up or date one day, like, you're not my friend. You're not a nice guy then.

You're just like, there's strings attached. That's a pick me thing. Also, guys that, like, say that they're a feminist and in a way that's like, you want to like fuck a girl that's a feminist. Like, that's why you're saying it. Like, you're not. You know what I mean? And they're not genuine.

And they wear shirts to say, like the futurist female just to fuck the females. I think there's ones that really mean that are really allies to women. I know. Yes. Because like I know that there are men who are really like wholeheartedly passionate about women's rights. And we like really need them on our side. And they're like genuinely at the women's march.

And they genuinely may wear a futurist female shirt. But the pickmies are cosplay in those guys. I know. So if someone is being inauthentic, they're always trying to pretend to be the authentic version of whatever they're trying to be. I'll give you the perfect example. We had a guy on our show talking about I love women and stick up for women. whatever.

And the second we stopped recording, he told the entire studio that I jerked him off. And I did jerk him off. I was 14 years old. Okay, I was really young. I was like my first, my first year job.

And it was like 15 years before this. And it's just, he cosplay to like really stick up for women and be like, to really ride for women. But you was like slut shamed me at my job. The slut shaming. Yes, those guys weirdly are slut shammers on top of being like, you know me,

the future is female. It is so crazy. I also think it's the guys who, like, they say they love women just because they love their mom. You know, like there is one woman in their life that they respect and it's their mom. Yeah, because they want to fuck their mom. Yeah. But also, like, I went on a date with this guy who at the end of the meal, he said, like, I normally, I would like pay for this stuff. But, like, I am a feminist.

And I want to let you know that I respect you. So I'm giving it up to you. Like, it's up to you if you want to split it or not. And I was like, ew. I'm not that much of a feminist. Like, you have to pay for my food. Like, ew, I don't know. I'm trying to get out of the bill under the guys.

Because you're a feminine. I mean, but it's the same concept of I'm not like other blank. So they're like, I'm not like other guys. I think he like was stalking my content and he saw all my like things making fun of men. And then like the entire date he kept being like, I donate to women's charities. I don't know what it was. Like he was an influencer. He was like, if you're doing brand deals and you're not donating.

then you're fucked up and I was like oh my god I do brandels and sometimes I don't donate half my money to women's charities like what are you talking about and I didn't believe him for a second after that it was like I don't believe it feels performative yeah and also I'm like not that crazy like who do you think I am I'm not like but I'm also trying to pay my bills you know yeah like I didn't roll up in a Bentley and refused to pay for children's charities so fake like I'm like that's not real you're not doing that yeah and then we're also saying it's like the guy who is like is attractive you know and and I'm is like, I can just never get a date, you know? Like, shut up, yes, you can. We talked about this guy this was years ago. I don't know. And he was, like, a super hot guy, but he was, like, posting content of, you know, I'm always the single one at the wedding. Shut up.

It's just like, oh, my God. Like, you can get a date. Yeah. And if you can't, I don't know what's going on under the service. Then it's a red flag in itself. Yeah. And you can't get a date in your hot. Yeah.

That is such a red flag. Yeah. Saying, like, no one likes me and you're hot. Then there's something. It's wrong. You're outing personality. It sucks then. Stop posting rails like that.

That's weird. What if a girl did that? That's weird. You don't do that. Nobody wants me. No one ever wants me. It's hard. Like, I'm like, oh my God.

I like, I like, I like, I like, you've got to be on a lookout for them. Oh my God, yeah. If you're on a date

and it feels like he is doing things for you in order to get in your bed, then he's a pick me guy. Totally. We asked our audience, what does the pick me do? Pick me behavior.

Yeah. So one of them was make sure to point out that they only drink beer, which is Ashley sometimes. That is, never once that I only drink beer. I got hammered on Saturday night of margarita and wine.

Beer didn't even, the word didn't even come out of my mouth. She's a beer girlie now. I also had beer yesterday. But here's the thing. Beer is a life hack because you like don't get as drunk. You don't get this hungover. And it's like my boyfriend's a beer enthusiast. That's why everyone is just being jealous. She has a boyfriend.

Yeah, yesterday I was out with these two guys. I'm not like other girls. I hire on two guys. No, you're different. And I had beer. It's more fun that way. But, you know, I think that, like, they identify that, like, most girlies are like, I like rosé, I like rosé, and they're like, I just, I'm a beer girlie. I'm different than you. Yeah.

It's cute, though. Yeah. Well, you mentioned Taylor Swift. I hate some Swifty fans. It's, like, too girly for them. They hate pumpkin spice lattes, pumpkin spice anything outwardly. Yeah, no. Puts down their friend's interest in front of others to seem superior.

Yeah. Only says hello to my husband and not me when I'm sitting right next to it. No. Why? Why? What the fuck? This is kind of funny. this is very specific.

Whereas high heels, they need to break in for a wedding around the office just to show people. Like, that's so specific. Okay, that's a different type of pygmy of just trying to be hot. I feel like that's a different time. You know what came up kind of a lot. I don't know that I identify this as a pick me behavior, but ask questions to things they already know the answers to. That's what I said in another one of my pick me things.

It can be meant to. If they're like, what's the scariest thing that you've ever been through in your life? And then you answer, you're like, huh, I never thought about that. I guess maybe like when I got in a car accident. They're not listening to you. They're like, I got kidnapped. They, like, are so excited to tell you. Like, they only ask you questions.

Just a act for yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Starts a sentence with, so I know I'm weird for this, but. Oh, shut up. Like, they're like, I'm an empath. I'm like different. I hate when they say things like that. No, I'm just so weird.

There's this girl on TikTok. I was looking at her stuff last night. She does this, like, insufferable female indie movie character. Oh, my God, Delaney. Yeah. Is it Delaney? I love her recently. You did?

I bum rushed her at this event. I was like, I just to tell you, I love you so much. She's so funny. She's so funny. So let's talk about like, what do you do? I mean, a lot of times it's like, I'm just not going to be friends with that person. Like, especially if they're not a close friend. You're like, I don't really want to be around them.

Or you just kind of hang out in a group setting and don't really spend too much time around them. But I do think people can grow out of this. I don't know. I'm trying to think if there's a world in which you mention it to somebody. I don't know. Typically, I've found. I have brought something like this up to someone. They act like they have no idea what I'm talking about.

I mean, I've always felt like it's important to communicate to people when they're bothering you, upsetting you. But this feels like purposeful. It feels intentional. Yeah, have you ever said anything to anybody? Well, yeah, when I ended a friendship with that girl, I mean, I had a boyfriend at the time and he said that she was hitting on him and that was my last straw. Totally.

He didn't even know all the lore behind like everything that she was doing behind the scenes. And when he said that, I was like, I knew it. Like, she just wants any attention she can get all the time. But I ended up bringing everything up and it was really no point. I feel like they are either lacking self-awareness. They really don't know what they're doing and they do it probably to everyone. Or they just don't. I feel like that girl just didn't like me.

And she kind of wanted me to get out of our friend. If you don't like me, I don't like you. Like we're not going to hang out anymore. So it's case by case. But if they don't grow out of it, I think they do end up being like the mom that wants to fuck their son, you know. Yeah. I mean, this is like a shame. Not like other girls.

It's the same thing, like a pick me woman that doesn't grow up. of it is going to raise a mini pick me. The same with bully, like adult bullies. Yeah. Do you ever see people on Instagram like in comments and like the meanest shit you've ever read is a picture of like a parent with kids and you're like, oh my fucking God. Yeah. This is sad and scary.

That's when they don't grow out of it. But yeah, I think some people can like sometimes before a certain age you're not really conscious of what you're doing. Like before like the prefrontal cortex is formed. I really think like. And you've picked that behavior up somewhere along the lines. You're getting like value and self-worth from it and you can grow out of it. I just think there's nothing wrong with saying your piece.

I would not recommend telling somebody like, hey, you're a pick me and I don't be friends anymore. You don't have to call it that. Yeah, the one thing I think is you're flirting with my boyfriend. Yeah. I feel really competitive about guys with you. And I'd love to like try to talk that out so I'm not feeling like this or like you kind of put me down in front of other people.

Like singling out the one behavior and coming at it, if you want to salvage the friendship or you just want to try to change someone's behavior and being like, this is just how this makes me feel. And maybe it could trip something up and maybe it could kind of rewire them. or not, but you're not overreacting by being upset by them. It's like, that's really shitty stuff. Yeah. Like, you're not crazy if you're feeling this time.

Uh-huh. But I think you have to decide what symptom of the pick me thing is like the most important to you. Exactly. If you want to salvage a friendship. Like you have to pick one and kind of do it like one at a time over a long span of time or else they're going to like. Yeah.

Yeah. Send them this episode. Send them your real. Yeah. That'd be so funny. No context. No. Or just be like, isn't this so funny?

Yeah. You could just kind of. Or you could, you know what? You could just start talking about picnys and other, like, behavior that you don't like in other people and seeing if they realize that that's what they're doing. Totally. I just,

I think that the specific examples are really important. Instead of saying, like, I always feel like you're super competitive me with guys. I think, like, I went to a bar with you. I said, I like this person, and you were talking to him within three minutes, you know? Yes, exactly. That's all you have to do and see if they're, if they're, like,

if they're, like, a normal person, usually the, like, I feel like if someone said that to me, I would be like, oh my God, I guess I did do that. Oh, sorry. Yeah. I don't, I didn't mean to. And I do feel like there's hope because I feel like you hear stories of like, oh, I used to be this type of girl and I'm like so embarrassed about it and I'm like different now, you know. But guys, there's no hope, no.

No. They would never go to therapy. I feel like a picnic guy, he's got to be like I'm super emotionally in touch. Like therapy is great. We love men in therapy. They're too much therapy. They're in therapy just to sleep with women. They're therapy.

Or they're lying. Like, I just think they want you to think they're super different than other guys where they're so emotionally. in touch. Oh, I don't even know. Anyway, sorry. There's that. I do think you can grow out of it. Like, when I was in high school specifically, I, like, was super developed.

I had huge tits. And, like, the older guys always liked me and slurred with me. And because of that, girls were, like, super mean to me. Like, the older girls were very, very mean to me. It would, like, yell stuff at me down the hallway. And I just thought, like, maybe I don't get along with girls as well. I had girlfriends my own age and some younger girlfriends. But, like, the older girls were super me.

And I just felt like I do kind of get along with guys a little bit better. And as I got a little older, like, in college, the behavior from women around me changed. I felt like I wanted to have different types of relationships with women. I sort of let go of that narrative. I think girls are mean in high school. They're insecure and you kind of just grow up out of it. So I probably identified with that a little bit in high school. And then I just felt differently about female friendships as I got older.

Yeah. Right. And you make friends and you realize that you actually like. Yeah. You can choose who your friends are after high school, you know. Yeah. Well, Becca, this has been great. This has been so fun.

Rebecca. Rebecca. I'm like keeping your comp on the whole time. Yeah. Thanks for keeping your top on. Oh my God. Oh, my God. No, this was wonderful. Thanks for, like, opening up. I know. I've never talked about this stuff online. I'm, like, excited because I have to go film my podcast.

And I'm like, I'm going to probably like talk about the same stuff. I'm going to be honest. Because now I'm like on a roll. It's like interesting. Do it. It's really vulnerable. And we really love your content. We encourage people to find you and follow you. Tell everybody where they can find you and follow you.

You can find me at Becca Moore on TikTok and Instagram. And I did just start a podcast called For The Girls with Becca Moore. On every Tuesday. Love it. Yeah. All right, guys. We'll check that out. And you know where to find us.

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