Girls Gotta Eat - Girls Trips, Couples Vacays, and Solo Travel

Episode Date: July 11, 2022

It's been 4+ years since our travel episode, so we figured it was time for a reboot! We're sharing general airport/packing/passport tips, then discussing traveling with friends, your partner, and solo. We're covering how much to plan/not plan, expenses, eating, pooping, and more, plus sharing some wild listener vacation stories as well as our own. And we're recapping our Mykonos trip (and pit stop in London), from a massive flight fuck-up to the sexy adventures that ensued. Hope you enjoy and safe travels! Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit our website for tour dates, merchandise, and more. Shop Vibes Only. Thank you to our partners this week: Native: Get 20% off your first purchase at nativedeo.com/ggedeo or use promo code GGEDEO at checkout. Blueland: Visit blueland.com/gge to get 15% off your first order. HelloFresh: Go to hellofresh.com/gge16 and use code GGE16 for up to 16 free meals and 3 free gifts. Buffy: For $20 off your order visit buffy.co and enter promo code GGE. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ashley told a friend of her, she's like, I don't want to go skiing. I'm not doing it. I was like, you could do that. A Pian edition of Girls Gotta Eat. Ola from Espania. It's Ashley's birthday. It's my birthday. This is all I wanted for my birthday was to record. That's what I asked for.

I was like, you know what I would love to do? Work on a Saturday. Saturday morning, we're looking out on the veranda in Barcelona. It's also my teeth's birthday. I got the nears on Ashley. birthday. It's so funny, because we did a dinner that night at O'S-Tar, obviously, and you were fucked up. Yeah. It's a major surgery. I was like, she made it. By the time I left, I actually was fine.

It's not, they don't put you under. It was local anesthesia, not general. Why am I telling you guys about this? Anyway, Raina had to steal my thunder until my birthday. I forget every year that it, well, now I'll never steal your thunder. It's, it's your day. It's been your day for 10 days. You got all these people to fly across the country, across the world, for, for you. It was amazing. We'll talk about it. So we were in London a couple days ago and exactly like what, four years ago in London, I was staying outside of this hotel when I realized like how bad I am at words. That's when it first walked over me.

Because I said, I'm fragrantly cheating. Fragrantly cheating. I get the word so hard. That was one of your first. I'm trying to think of one of the, oh, you used to do Plutonic. You said Plutonic. Like it was like from the planet of Pluto. That was the way. Plotonic is still, it's hard for me to say it.

Plutonic. Flutop. Plutonic. Yeah, that's how I hear the word. Okay. So we are in Barcelona. You're doing it. And we were in Mekanos.

I said it with a list the other day and you were last day and you're like, what did you just say? But I just, it's, well, I used to have a Lisp. I went to years of speech therapy. What? You knew this. No, I didn't. Yeah. Years of speech therapy.

I mean, like two years with the speech therapist in my elementary school. You were like a little kid. Yeah. But like, I mean, I had to go, you know, be pulled out of class to go see me. Mrs. Mederis, icon, fixed my list. I mean, it was pretty bad.

I didn't know this. Oh, yeah. I mean, I think my brother did, too. It runs in the family. So I just feel like I can't go back. Like, even when you're supposed to, Abitha. Or no,

Ibitha is a, is a T.H. It's very triggering for you. And my mom, I told you this. I think I've talked about some podcasts. Corey couldn't say her R's. And her name's Corey Fogason. So my mom was like, I don't want you're hanging out with her.

He's drugs and alcohol. It was Corey's list. Because she was like, you already can't see your S's. And now she's, you're going to, this girl's going to fuck you up. You're not going to be able to say you're ours. You do like adapt the speech patterns of like the people you spend the most time with. And it's funny because they were like, she doesn't Lisp at church when she's singing in the choir because you're something about singing.

And so they were like, she's not beyond hope. Okay. So that's why you're in the choir for so many years. I didn't fix your list. I wasn't a choir. And I sang a high school graduation. I've never heard you sing. Ask Kate about it.

Five years of Fredsch. You ask Kate about it. She makes fun of me so hard. I can't. I've never heard you since. I don't think anymore. I'm retired. We are the opposite of retired.

We have taken a week off. We have two companies. Our other company is Vibes Only. Yes, you guys, listen, get on Vibes only. Get the vibrators. I used my last night. First masturbation of the trip. I didn't use it in Mekinoos.

Well, because I got laid. We'll talk about it. I couldn't get late because I had a roommate. We'll talk about it. One of the funniest reviews we've gotten so far is that this woman wrote in, she used the rena, which is currently sold out, but it is coming soon. So you guys can get on the wait list for it. It is coming back.

We promise the rena is our dual-sided vibrator that you guys are just obsessed with. She said it, she thinks it helped her gave birth. Do you see that one? Well, I've heard that like masturbating, having sex or having sex trigger birth. Yeah. So she was like, I use the rena and she said a picture of her baby, so adorable, healthy little baby. So anyway, guys, if you got a child stuck in you that you're trying to get out. I think Ashley would work too.

I think any of the vibrators. Just get in there with the Ashley. And then, of course, you guys, the app, the erotic content. Oh, my God. It's so good. And it's just going to get so much better. We have this tattoo story coming up. Fuck your tattoo artist.

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But buy a vibrator or get in the app and use your fingers, you know? Yeah. Check it out, you guys. So we have been in Europe for, we've been together nonstop for 10 days. 10 days, yeah, I guess we left on the 29th. We left on the 29th. We went to a quick overnight trip in London. Raina?

I was like, felt like I had to like run cover on Raina. But this was in a matter of 10 minutes. You made out with a dude. This is 6 p.m. It's happy hour. You made out with a dude in a bar. Just open public, crowded bar, happy hour in London. Made out with a dude.

Then another dude moments after, who was in the same friend group, said he wanted to lick your asshole. He said, I want to lick your bum hole. Bumhole. Like, it's a bum hole. Like, it's a butt head. No, the guy asked me to lick my butthole first. He didn't watch me make out the friend and then asked me to lick the butthole. Okay.

Butthole first. Butthole liquor was married. So, anyway, maybe they're open. And then moments after that, this guy, like, professed his love and his helitosis. He was. He didn't have very good breath. And you were like, we got to get out this in 10 minutes. These guys in London were all over your dick.

It was crazy. It was amazing. And you know what I really enjoyed is that, like, I feel like it's not like a problem in America. I mean, every city is a little different, but I feel like men don't approach you as much. And like, these guys were just like, I mean, we're at this like beautiful bar. It was really nice. These were like happy hour professionals. We were in some like dive bar.

It was like one good looking guy after the next. And not like a beautiful outfit just like approaching you. Like they're there to get it in. It's like 6 p.m. They're like, I got to get some pussy by 6.30. I mean, I really have not experienced that in a minute. I mean, I don't know if women who live in London would agree with this. Or maybe it's just that that certain vibe, but that it would be worth a.

Ned. We stayed at a hotel called the Ned and the happy hour is so fun. I can't recommend enough. There's a bunch of different restaurants. There was a live band and they were just aggressive. Yeah, it was crazy. Assertive. I'm no aggressive. We haven't had like European summer in a long time either. I wonder if like tourists are just out in full force and everybody is just out in full force. Everybody's trying to fuck the tourists. So we had a great night in London. It was really fun. And then we woke up at 4 o'clock in the morning. Okay, here's the thing. I want to talk about this. So we're doing a travel episode today and we're so excited about it. And you guys know that we think highly of ourselves in the way we move through the world. Like we're high functioning.

Yes. We check where the airports are. What time things are. We don't see if through our alarms. Yeah. We get shit done. We're problem solvers. It's what it is. But listen, even people like us make mistakes. And it's how you handle those mistakes that really shows we made an epic mistake. And I want to be honest about it because we're human. That's embarrassing. Hot tip, there's a lot of airports in London. The most. A lot.

But also in New York. It's like New York, JFK, it's like, yeah, it's, see, here's what happened. I mean, we had a 7 a.m. flight. The airport, the Heathrow was like an hour and a half away. I mean, it was an hour at that, it was only an hour at that four in the morning. We'd leave at four o'clock in the morning because travel's crazy. We wanted to get there like a full-blown two hours before. I slept through my alarm.

Yeah, Raina sleeps through her alarm. It's four in the morning. I wait till 4.05 and then I have the front desk call her. So they called you, you come down. Meanwhile, this guy's checking in with two hookers at 4 in the morning. I'm like, they can have my room. Just let him have it. They're going to make it dirty anyways.

So we're in the car. 4 o'clock in the morning. The driver even was like, which airport are you going to? And I just was like, key throw. Like, I wasn't thinking, which is so weird because New York has three airports. I mean, like, we always have to check, are we going to JFK or LaGuardia every time? And rarely Newark, but every once in a while. So it's like, we don't come from some podong town with one airport.

I know he travels. No one travels more than we do. Yeah. So I was like Heathrow. Yeah. Like I just, we just came from Heathrow the day before. I'm like, we're going back to Heathrow. How crazy. You know, within 24 hours. We get all the way to Heathrow. We're in like a traffic jam trying to get into the airport. And we were looking for where to drop us off. He was like what area to drop us off. And we both start like trying to figure out and realize we're at the wrong airport. I like started shaking. It's one of those moments you feel it in your whole body. And you're just like, because we were going to Mekanos, which is not like, Yeah. It's not like in a premier city.

Like you can get 100 flights to Rome a day. So I'm like shaking and I'm like, this can't be true. This can't be real. Yeah. Look up where the other airport is. And I'm like, oh my God, actually, it's like two hours from here. It's like an hour back into the city and another hour. It was an hour.

It was only an hour. But it was like we would have been cutting it so close to get to London City Airport right with an hour to spare before the flight. So any sort, anything that went awry, even like a check-in. Which travel was really good. So we just both like get on our phones and the Uber driver is like, what should I do? And we're like just go to that airport. Meanwhile, we're looking on our phones like, oh my God, we're on kayak trying to figure it out. And there was another airport there was another flight at the third airport that left like 45 minutes later to get us to Mekanos on EasyJet.

Two seats left. We had nice seats on British Airways. We had seats in the front of the plane. It wasn't, I mean, it was whatever. We were like, we got the last two seats. on this easy jet flight. That flight was wild. It was a party plane.

I mean, everybody's in the aisles. I've never been so excited being seat 34D. Let me have the window. You really? Well, there was two seats left. And so we get there another hour to check in. It was insane. We were like, oh my gosh, this is a humbling, traveling experience.

Like, everything just took forever. And then we get there and we, like, didn't have seats. And we were like, we're not going to get on this flight. I was just like so close to tears. It took so long for them to finally assign us seats. We got the last two seats on the plane. This was such a full flight. Then that was delayed hours, but it was fine.

I've just felt so happy to just be able to get there. We got there hours after we had anticipated, but at least we got there. And it was just like, everybody's dealing with these travel nightmares. And our travel nightmare was self-induced. Super self-induced. We just made a huge mistake. Three airports in one day. I was fucked up when we got there.

One of our friends was like, do you want to go to the club tonight? I was like, absolutely not. But we just handled it. I mean, oh, I put my name in wrong. Ashkey. Ashkey. And then you guys say, I'm calling her Ashkey and every time it happened I'd like look at the floor.

I was like, am I high functioning? Like I was so furiously trying to get the last seat on the plane that I was just typing so quickly. It's what, 5 a.m. I don't know. I don't know how you did that. I was on my phone. And so I just write an Ashkey and then that went through.

And I was like, oh my God, it doesn't match my passport. It doesn't match my passport. I'm not going to get in this flight. There was so many things. And then I took my shoes off and they did. Then no one else. Nobody at the airport had their shoes. off.

I told me to take my shoes off you. She was just fucking with you. It's the hardest I've laughed in a really long time. I was choking. I had tears pouring down my face. So, I mean, we were talking today about travel and it's just like, I still think that we were like able to handle it and get it done quickly and make it there. I just said to you like, if this had been like an ex of mine or like somebody who couldn't

just like, be like, okay, I'm going to look up flights while you look up the route. Like if it was pretty much anybody I've dated, we would have had a huge. I mean, we just had to tag team this effort. I just can't even believe it. Last two seats in the plane. I can't believe it. I just, I want to say, you know, this trip was a dream and it was I wanted to go to Greece. I wanted to go in 2020 for my birthday.

And we were able to do it. And it was incredible. Everything about it was perfect. Everything we did every day. The group was amazing. And I just like, don't take it for granted. Like, I just feel so incredibly grateful to be able to live this life and take trips like this. and have these friends around me and be able to afford it and do the things I want to do.

And I couldn't have taken this trip five years ago and done the things that we did and not have to worry about money. And so it felt really nice. I do like think about it. Yeah, I'm glad you said it. And of course, you should think about it. Anybody that is able to do these kind of things should think about it. You should be proud of yourself that you get to do it. I've worked since I was 14 years old.

I've always had a job. I've always really prioritized working really hard. You and I launched a new company this year. we haven't taken a trip for pleasure in so long. I know you guys see us on the road on Instagram, like, dick it around. But most of our trips are work-related. So to be able to do this and to have all these friends that are willing to travel literally around the entire world for you, it's just, it's really special.

It's humbling. You feel so grateful. So it is nice to take those moments because I think you see so many people on Instagram doing this stuff. And it would be disappointing to not take a moment to just like reflect. I just feel like I had these moments just being like in the water because I just, you know, water sign. Love to swim.

And just to be in the water. I'm like looking around and just be like I can't even believe this. I did that every single day. I felt like I was going to cry every day. I felt like I was going to cry. And then like the last day we're at one of our favorite beach clubs, Prince of Pote. And I'm probably saying that like so American. And this is like a thing.

But I've been in situations when I've traveled and they play at Sharon's perfect. I don't know what it is. And like sometimes I'm talking about like the club mix, not like the slow version out at night. You know, but it happened in Mexico City. And then it happened. I told you this. Maybe you're a little drunk. And it happened.

in Australia and we were sitting at that cafe and they played the Beyonce duet. And I just feel like really emotional. I feel like cried at brunch in Australia. But I get like really emotional. Like I just, I feel really thankful. So anyway, and thanks to you guys because you helped happen.

But anyway, at Shear and Perfect. That's my happy song. It is. And it's, you know, I've been constantly reflecting on this trip too because like I did this trip when I was like 27. I went to London. I went to Barcelona. I've been to Rome.

I went to a lot of these places that we're going to on this trip. when I was younger and I stayed in hostels. I couldn't afford more than like $75 a night. I never would have eaten in a restaurant. It was more than like, I couldn't afford more than $50 a meal. I didn't drink at restaurants. Like everything was so budgeted. It was a hard trip.

I took trains everywhere. I barely flew. Like to be able to come back and do this trip again and feel like I worked so hard for this and I get to do it. It's just nice. This is just like a totally different trip than I took before. Yeah. It feels good.

Yeah. So we had two couples with us and our friend, Brian, who I was my, roommate on the trip. It was really nice that you guys shared a room. Well, so what happened was we booked it. You booked the house. So I just want to give credit to you. Ashley really spearheaded this trip. You know she loves to plan. It was incredible. I'm going to give you a birthday present right now. I'm just going to tell you every minute of this trip was planned. It was the best trip I've ever been on. I will never take a trip not like this ever again. Oh my God. That is a gift. Ashley planned the house, the driver, the boat, every reservation.

Not every reservation. I know she could really tag teamed on the reservations a lot. I did nothing. The two of us really, like, I did like all the high level like house boat, driver, all that stuff. And then she, anyway, I just want to, she's listening. She's going to be like, bitch, what? Well, I love her and I trust all of her recommendations. Everybody needs a friend like that.

Yeah. But you really planned every minute at this trip. I don't ever want to do a trip like that, not like that ever again. You were right. It was amazing. So thank you for planning it. It really was so special. We had this great house, great driver. We had so many incredible plans. And basically we actually booked this house with enough bedrooms for everybody. And then we added on our friend, Brian, and I just didn't feel right. One of the rooms I would have had to share with somebody and was going to be me and you. And I just felt like you planned the whole trip. You deserved your own bedroom. Well, and we are not good. We don't sleep together well. Like, we don't like the same temperature. Like you don't like air conditioning. Like it just doesn't really work out. And Frayna was like, I'll share with Brian. He's going to be nice. sort of me that Ashley would be. And yeah, I just, I got to pick the room the best shower, obviously,

and it worked out because you know, I was fucking on that trip. Let me tell you what happened. Stop! First of all, in a hierarchy of men, it's like, I was like, are British men the hottest, or Greek, Spaniards, I think I'm going Greek. They're the hottest. They're so hot.

Every guy, oh my God. It was outrageous. Do you know many bouncers I fell in love with on this trip? The hottest, baldest, tallest, tallest, covered in tattoos, man that I've ever seen. So, anyway, we met this guy. I'm talking to him. He is, like, I was just, like, in a bad mood about some stuff. I should be a little poutty.

I was a little sassy. I was in a good mood about your bad mood this time. I will say, I saw this guy. I caught a glimpse. I was, like, that mouth. Like, his lips. Oh, my gosh. But I was in a bad mood.

You are. You are a little pouty. I mean, there isn't possibly in a bad mood on this trip. I was just like, listen. It was a momentary. Yeah. I was annoyed. Yeah.

I was like, hi, I like your man bun. He was like, okay. And I started talking to this guy randomly, and I forget why it came up. But I said that we were at this incredible beach club, Al-Magu, which we highly recommend. And I was like, I, like, fell in love with this bouncer there. And he was like, oh, a friend of mine, my teacher works there. I was like, teacher-toucher-d-do. And anyways, I showed him the photos of the bouncer, and that was his friend.

And so I was like, jih-su-te-te-te-te-te-te. You said teacher, so I'm like, we got to tell. I know, I was like, what is he teaching you? So, anyways, I was like, hook. it up, whatever. So I'm like flirting with him, talking about his friend. And then he just like honed in on Ashley. Listen, he knew what he wanted. He had a bad attitude. He liked how sassy I was. He said, he goes, Ashley, he just started talking to me. I was like, oh my God. He was like, what's your sign? I was like, I can tell you're a little bossy. And I was like, oh my God. He was like, it turns me on.

I think it's sexy. I'm like, what? Which automatically, I'm like, if you think this attitude is sexy, we're about to fuck. Ashton, there's plenty of more of that game. So we start like flirting, He just really like honed in on me and he said he was a Scorpio. So I was like, he said something about like he was like, well, cancers and scorpios, you know, they, uh, and I was like, have great sex. And he was like, yeah. So he basically just really starts hitting on me. We like ended up like partying ways.

He was what'sapping me and telling me he wanted to give me a massage later. I was like, he was hitting it hard. He was like, I'm going to come over and bring red wine and massage oil. I'm like, what? And I'm just like laughing at this whole thing. I'm like, okay, sir, whatever. But he was so hot. So I, all day he just kind of like message you.

me. And we're at this place, Scorpio's. Are you guys detecting a theme here? Which is incredible. We loved it so, so much. And he was like, I just got off work, whatever, and I want to see you. And I was kind of ready to leave the bar anyway. It was maybe like 10 o'clock or whatever, 10 or 11 at night. So he picks me up at Scorpio's. I was like, look and fly, have my special dress on. We go back to the house and everybody stayed. So I had the house to myself. It was a struggle. You guys, I wanted to go home so bad. Right. And really wingmaned me, this whole situation. So we go back to the house. house and he gets out of the car and he had a bottle of wine and a bottle of baby oil, like, from the store.

Like, he really went to the store. I laughed so hard. I was dying. I was like, you really did that. And we ended up getting in the hot tub and, you know, one thing led to another. And I actually didn't get a massage. And he took the baby oil with him. But he's, I don't know what he's doing.

He's just turned to the next girl. Like, the baby, we couldn't afford another bottle of it. Yeah. So anyway, it was a great experience. It was a great sexual experience. I mean, I will say a couple things. A hot tub is such a great way to like get it. I would never fucking a hot tub. I just doesn't feel good on my vagina. I mean, you're just like there's no natural lubricant. It's chemicals are just being like thrust into your. That's how you got UTI. Yeah. So I, like, to start making out on the hot tub was really hot. Like I just think it's such a good way to like get close. It's like sexy. And then like moved it into the bedroom. I mean, I'm not a person that just sleeps with random people the day I meet them. But it sometimes happens. with like the right energy. This guy just had such like sexual energy. He like really pursued me all day. And I just went for it. And it was like a great experience.

It was very funny that everyone came. He ended up leaving. I think he was like, all these friends are about to walk in here and I don't want to be a part of it. I felt bad. I really was cock block and we FaceTime you. Yeah, you guys. FaceTime me.

I thought you needed like let into the gate for the house. So I answered it. I was like, oh my God. This is, I can't. I hate you guys. Like I was about to go in for a round two. I fucking hate my friend.

It was my favorite night. It was just, it was really funny. hooked up with a Scorpio after leaving Scorpio. Just real, real theme night. And the next day, when we were like talking about it, I was like, he really like pursued me hard or something. Rain was like, yeah, of course these guys want to fuck the tourists. And I was like, what?

I pursued me so hard. I'm like, this is an exploding offer. Ashley, they've 24 hours to clones. Like, this is not like, let me get to know you. Like, what are you for a living? Where's your dad live? No, like, it's just like they got to fuck you that day. It's an exploding offer.

Of course, I wasn't thinking, like, I'm going to date this guy. But I never really thought of myself as like a hit it and quit it. Tourist. A mark conquest. Yes. And it was so funny. The way you said it. I was like, oh, really?

I got God. Really beneficial, of course. But, yeah, I mean, you got God. They're just trolling to try to like fuck the tourists. Of course. I mean, I would. You're like, he's so sesame. He'd be so aggressive.

I'm like, yeah, because he has one day to close. Always be closing. Which is fine. Like, I wanted that too. I wanted, like, a hot, sexy, like, one-night stand in Greece. But it was just funny, the way you put it into perspective. I was like, damn, I was not as self-aware as I got caught. But no, it was very hot, dude.

Outrageously hot. Really knew what he was doing. Really focused on my pleasure. I'll just say that. He was a Greek lover. A Greek lover. I'm happy for you. Yeah.

I mean, we all stayed out to the UK have the house. It was really nice. We really appreciate it. It was the most fun dance party when we got back. Yeah. I was glad he wasn't there. We got back so we could talk about him. Yes. I'm sorry, but that is hysterical for seven people to sit around and I'm at the head of the table. We're having this like state of the union. I just like picked my daughter up from school. Everyone sat around at the dining table and I was at the head of the table with my silk pajamas on.

So anyway, it was a good time. Everything else has been incredible. That was just like one of the funny highlights I wanted to share on the podcast. Yeah, I mean, Greece has been incredible. It's one of my favorite places I've ever been. I was so glad we went. I know that I'd recommend mecanos for like a solo trip or like a couples trip, but like with a group, it is unbelievable. It's my favorite thing I've ever known with a group of people. Yeah, it was great. I mean, it's really just, it's not, at least in our experience, I mean, we didn't stay downtown. We stayed in the Paraga area. That's how you can at least find on a map. I was fairly close to the airport. To me, it didn't really matter. Like we,

I recommend getting like a driver. We just had an on-call driver so we could take us all over because there's so many different areas of it. And I feel like we went to a lot of different areas in Mekonos and we really had to get in the car. It's not really walkable. The streets are really tight. Like these cars can barely fit past each other on most of the streets. And there's something like 30 Uber drivers for the whole island.

Yeah. Like hundreds of thousands of tourists. Yeah. So the Airbnb host really helped with like helping us with the driver and like the boat and all the stuff. She was like so helpful. I posted this on my Instagram. We love the beach clubs.

We loved Alamo. Magoo and Prince Apote the most. We love Scorpios. Obviously, we ate at a great place called Apagio. Those are like my four main things. And then the boat, that was this company called Seescape experiences. But it was really perfect. I mean, one thing that we just kept talking about was like, people dressed up, but like

everybody wore flats. There's a lot of places where you're walking that you couldn't be in heels. I love the energy. I mean, I just, I stress out about having to get like too dressed up. I felt I didn't wear that much makeup on this trip. Yeah. I wore at flats. I actually didn't, I barely drank.

This is the least I've ever drank on a trip. in my life. I drank. I drank moderately. The food is just so fresh and so good. That is truly one of my favorite cuisines. I mean, there's a reason why there's a Mediterranean diet. It just feels so good in your body. Like, I ate everything I wanted to.

And I just felt so great. I didn't feel like sluggish. We talked about this a little bit on the episode today. But just drank and ate out all these meals. And it felt amazing. I mean, the food's just better here, even in Europe in general. Spanish food a little heavy. But just, I mean, you know this. I feel like Heather McMahon has been this voice of this like how you just can go to Italy and just eat pasta every day and, like, lose weight.

Like, I just miss it so much. I just am not looking forward to going back to America for a lot of reasons. But it was crazy. I was like, we're on this, like, vacation. We're drinking. We're having Magnums of Rose. Every time we go out and having espresso martinis and we're eating out, all these meals. And just still woke up every day.

Just feeling amazing. I felt amazing every day. So, yeah, I mean, as somebody who's been to every single place in Europe, traveled my whole life, I would recommend Greece over pretty much anything. I just think it's so, so, so special. The food, the men, the activities. Yeah, it was great. I mean, there's so many other places that are incredible in Greece as well.

I mean, we just did Mekonos and then we came to Barcelona. And then as we speak, Raina is going to Italy. You're going to Rome and I'm going to Portugal. And then we're going to meet up in Portugal. But we're going to do a few days solo, do our own thing. I'm going to go see my best friend from high school. He's in the south of Portugal for the month. So I'm going to see him and do some fun stuff, Gungetski.

It's all I care about. I think it's going to be incredible. I'm really excited. and it'll be nice for me to take a little break, do my own thing for a couple days. All right. That's it. The trip has been great.

Thank you guys for following along. I'm sure I've been insufferable on social media. I hope you enjoy it. No, you've been fine. Yeah? Okay. I mean, whatever. It's what it is.

It was an epic trip and we're still out here. We're still out here. Yeah, we're here. And we'll tell you about Portugal and Italy and all the other things that happen next week. We've had a really good episode for you guys next week. Also, we have some really great stuff coming up this summer. Yes.

And I'm looking forward to Montreal at the end of this month. So there might be a few tickets left to come see us at JFL. I'm not sure. But that is like our next adventure and we can't wait. I can't wait to be in Canada. July 28th Club soda. I think there was like 20 tickets left last time I checked. Can't wait to be in any other country besides America.

It's rough. It's, whew, all right. Okay. Let's talk about traveling. And we've already been talking about traveling. Let's talk about it more. Let's break it down. We'll talk about friend travels.

Would you have a lot more experience from like college, like going on the girls trips, which I don't? Yeah, I've just been on so many. bachelor's, girls trips. I mean, I have a million friends. You really do. I've been on like three trips with dudes. I've done more of that.

Yeah, you've done what you've done. Yeah, like you've really done more boyfriend travel and solo travel. And I've probably done more girls trips. So I'll give my solo travel tips later, but I've done tons of solo travel. And you guys always ask for X. So we'll give you those. Don't DM me just, you know, listen in this episode, right it down. And we'll give you guys tons of tips to make your travel better.

What do you want to start with? Our tips? I have some tips. Here's the thing. I mean, travel changes as you get older and if you get more successful in your life. Like, I'm a different person traveling today than I was even five years ago, 10 years ago, like in my 20s. Like, I really care about a lot of things now. But that's only been the last few years.

But like, I used to just do whatever, stay in whatever hotel always shared rooms. Like, it's so crazy to think like we would pack four girls into a hotel room. And that was what we, there was no even question about it. Like two beds, four girls. I never even thought of it as being uncomfortable. I would never share a room now. Of course not. I just, I don't remember ever caring that I was like uncomfortable.

I stayed in hostels. I flew like the worst airlines, however I could do it the cheapest. Like I was just happy for the experience. I couldn't care less. Yeah. So it's just like I want to try to speak on it from both. Like I, this is coming from a place of like we built this life for ourselves. We have earned all this.

You know, we're at a different place. we're older. I want if I can ball out. I'm in 30s. That's what I like to spend money on. But like it took a long time to get here. So some quick tips. My tips are all like, get clear.

Get TSA pre-Jexec. I'm clearing TSA on my two. I mean, it's just, it helps the experience so much. Get mobile passport if you're coming into the States from anywhere or just like Mexico. I mean, I'm not positive. So look it up. But clear, here's a hot tip. A lot of credit cards when you sign up for it will give you a membership to clear for the

year. So clear is like above and beyond. Like you just get to the front of the line. So you can get it through a credit card. You can get it through a trial. TSA precheck is $75. Global entry is 115. I don't know if it's gone up significantly,

but it's really improved my travel experience. Just in general, like I have never seen people hate their significant on their child, their friends more than people that like are just trying to get through just a regular security line of 10 bags. I mean, it's crazy. This mobile passport is no longer mobile passport. I think it's called airside. But this is something that gets you back into the country really quick.

Like I got, remember when I used it? We were coming back from, I think, Cancun. No, this was like post-COVID. I think coming back from Cancun and you were in the global entry line and I breeze right past you. I was like, is this for real? This feels like a joke. Yeah, no one knows about this.

I asked the TSA lady about it or the customs lady and I was like, why aren't people do this? She's like, girl, I don't know. People don't even know about it. So look into that. You know, credit cards with points. If lounge access, love to have access to the lounge, make a checklist in your phone of stuff so you don't forget it. and every time you forget something put on the list, there's always something.

It's always just like my contacts or like jewelry. So I just started putting it on this master list in my phone. Hot tip, check the weather before you go. Sometimes I've been on trips with people that did it. And I have gone. When I went to Mexico City, I just thought it was going to be like a summer trip. I packed so poorly.

I think I wanted it to be. I did not have the appropriate clothes. I bought a leather jacket while I was there. It was cold every night. I never checked the weather before we got to grow. Not once. Never looked for that. But you can assume like summer in Europe, but I'm saying like if you're traveling to somewhere that, you know, so many places get really cold at night. Like there's a 30 degree difference between day and night. Look at that. Get travel sizes of all your products and keep them in a travel pouch so you just grab it when you go. This has been so nice. Like I just have my travel pouch and I just grab it. And I just have my travel pouch and I just grab. I mean, most people don't travel as much as you and I do. But, you know what I'm just doing like my travel size and my shampoo and conditioner. Well, you know what I've done because you and I travel so much is I just have doubles of everything. I just have a travel thing to grab. I mean, most people don't travel as much as you and I do. But. it's been really helpful. Yeah. Yes. Again, it's if you're not traveling that much. But,

you know, carry on when you can. It's such a dream. Buy a travel vibrator that has a travel mode like the Gigi. All right. I packed mine for this trip. A, we have a compact vibrator, but you have to hold it down to turn it on so it won't just turn on in your bag. So travel mode is great. And check the COVID restrictions in every country. We had Bella make make us a spreadsheet. Yeah. There is actually an Excel spreadsheet of COVID restrictions. Because it's different. Yeah, it's different everywhere. Like we're going to four countries.

I know. Or we were recording this right before we head out, if you guys are curious. But four different countries, they're all different. Also, check the visa requirements. Don't get stuck in Singapore on your way to Vietnam like me. They're like, you kick it on this plane bitch. I was like, what? So to go to Europe, I know every country's different, but I've traveled really,

really extensively around the world. Europe, you don't need a visa to go there, but a lot of places in Asia, you need travel visa. You need to go to an embassy and get a travel visa. Got it. And sometimes it's up to like $400. It's not always not much. Mainland China, good luck.

Like, there's a lot. So just Google the visa requirements. Also, Google passport requirements, because a lot of countries will not let you in if your passport is expiring in six months. So that was just going to say that. You jogged my memory. I've seen so many people fall into this.

Most places, like, if your passport's about to expire in six months, you get a new passport. This has fucked so many people over. I've never cried that hard in my life. I was hysterical at the airport. They're like, I don't know what to tell you. girl, get out of here. And I was like, I, like, nobody will help you and nobody's nice. So we're going to help you.

Yeah. And then, um, just the second you book a international trip, locate your passport. Don't just think I'll find it the day before because you might have thrown it out. Like I did. She also lost her fax card. I just somehow found my fax card. I don't know where it was. But I, so many years ago, I lost my passport and I had to get one expedited to go in this fucking cruise with my family. It was a mess. But those are just some

quick tips and we have some that you guys gave us as well. Yeah. And then mine, I would call your bank and your cell phone provider if you're going out of the country, just let them know so they don't shut your credit cards down and also your cell phone provider can add international to your plan. Talk to your dad because we know so many guys are in the family plan.

I'm not. My brother is. They don't want me on the family plan. My mom's like, you're not part of this family. This is something Ashley has to remind me of. Just don't overextend you. yourself. Like, I always think I'm going to want to be on these trips for like a really long time and do all this stuff. I was just like, you're going to do this. Realistic, I used to take these trips for so long for like weeks at a time and I'd be like, I'm hitting 10 cities and like, I'm too

old for that now. I have to remind myself, you know? I like to be a place and like be able to unpack a little. I mean, it's even when we do tours and it's like three nights, four nights and three or four cities. It's just a lot. I hate to like get an hotel unpack. Wake up the next morning, repack, leave, do it over again for multiple nights. It's brutal. That's not how I like to travel. But I did that for so long. But I also was like, I'd never travel to my whole life, so I

got to get it in. Yeah. So... There's have more energy when you're younger. Like, yeah. I'm old now. Yeah. And then I'm a big proponent of just knowing everything that's available in a city and being flexible with what you do. So like, especially with international travel, you'll find

that a lot of things you want to do like museums, markets, they're just, they're closed on weird random days, like a Tuesday or Wednesday museums are closed on. So just be like aware of those things. Plan solo time. I cannot stress it enough. I love to be alone. You're not, it's okay to say to people, I need some time by myself.

Like, we went to the bachelor at party, I took a walk by myself in the morning, went to the beach, and a book. Like, you're just not being solo. That was like what everybody told us and like their tips also. Solo time, solo time, solo time. Yeah. I don't need it as much. Ashley can't relate. I need it so badly. Like, I really don't need it as much as some

people do and I need way less of it to recharge. So like if I'm on a trip, I do want to be with people the whole time. I mean, I mean, we're talking weeks, no, but like a normal length trip with a bunch of girls, for example, like I do want to be with everybody. I don't want to miss out. But I get solo time when I'm like getting ready. You know what I mean? But I'm that kind of person that's like, what's everybody doing? Like, I don't want to miss a moment. I would love to miss a moment. You are so different than me. I just, I take a walk by myself in the morning and like, you're not insulting anybody. Nobody cares that. much. I mean, if you travel people that do care, I mean, I'm sure they'll check in with you about it.

Don't exclude yourself. Like, I've been on trips to girls where like one person's like, I'm not coming to that. And I'm like, what's your problem? We're here for three days. But, you know, take a walk by yourself. I need it. Also, if you're, we'll talk about partners, but also it's good. I think if you're on a big trip with your partners for you to have solo time. Yeah, it is so funny because we did this, this is a couple summers ago. We did this just just Hampton's house for the weekend with a lot of the same group that were in Mika and Nose with. And there was this one girl. She was really nice. I really liked her, but she just was not around. Like I was like, where is she? Like, she just like, I was like, is she on this trip with

with us? She just got disappearing. Like, even when we went to like Wolfer, we went to the winery, she just wasn't, she was taking a walk through the vineyard. Like, she just kept, she really needed, she was really introverted and really cool, like bad chick, but just needed to really get away a lot. I think she was just not, like, I don't think she loved socializing and she was introverted. And it was just funny because I was just like, where'd she go? She's by herself in the vineyards. That is so funny. I also think. on the flip side of that, like somebody who needs too much alone. Like, we were in that Hampton's house with you, me and my ex, and like, I felt like he needed

solo time all the time. And I was like, what did you come on this? He was always like taking a nap, coloring by the pool. Bella's working and she just perked up at coloring. You said coloring. I can't. He draws really well. I have to diminish it to coloring, though.

He just, he wanted to like a lot of solo time, just me and him. I had to placate him a lot. It, like, wasn't ideal for me because, like, I was getting to know all these people, and I felt like I look like the asshole he doesn't because I'm the link between everybody. I mean, clearly nobody thought that, but, I mean, we'll get to the type of person you are with your partner. And traveling opens your eyes to that. I mean, a first trip with somebody, so I'm going to pop off so hard.

Okay, I'll go through my last couple tips really quickly. Packing cubes can't recommend them enough so you can just sort of like have a cube for pants, have a cube for T-shirts, unbelievable. Can you explain these right now? Yeah, absolutely. Because I'm picked, like, I know what they are now. I say your photo. But like, some people don't know and they hear Cube and they're like, what?

They are paper thin, essentially just like you zip your clothing into like little garment bag. Yeah, they're like a garment bag that you zip up there, paper thin. And so instead of like opening up your luggage, you're like, where is my pajamas? You just dig to the bottom. You unpack 17 things. I just labeled one cube pajamas. Oh my God. I forgot one of my main tips.

What's your main tip? Get a lightweight suitcase with 360 wheels. Can't recommend it enough. Like, I mean, we part of it. with Away in the past. We love them. I use away. We have a new luggage sponsor coming soon. I think that's in August. You guys will see. But if you are lugging your suitcase behind you, I mean, listen, if it's carpet, don't get me starting on carpet in an airport, but Bill and I go off if there's carpet. And if we're in a hotel with no carpet, we're like, what a dream. But if you haven't experienced

a suitcase that you just lightly tap and it rolls along with you, you've got to get on this. And this isn't a plug for a way, but we love away. And they are really. affordable. Yeah. Like you, and they're durable. I mean, they really get banged the fuck up and they really hold up. And there are other brands too. Like, but that, I love that hard shell and I love just like the suitcase itself is so

lightweight and it just rolls along with you so easily. I have a Samsung that I love, but it's like too much money. Samsung. Samsung. Is it Android? It's a galaxy. Am I wrong? Is it Samsung suitcase?

Sampsonite. It felt right. It was coming out of my mouth. I'm yelling Samson night like it's dumb and dumber. Okay, and then I have a quick website tips. So write these guys down. You guys always ask me about this. So here's my website tips.

Go to WikiTravel. They will break down every single thing about the weather somewhere, transportation, great hotels, what's safe, things like that, WikiTravel, visit a city. It's my number one tip for travel. They will have pretty much every major city. And you just say, this is the kind of trip I want to take.

This is how many days. And they will map out what the best sort of route and best things to do in any city. So it's linked with TripAdvisor. So it'll say, like, here's the top 10 things people do in this city. Do these things that'll map it for you physically. Really, really incredible. It's my favorite website.

Viter is great for finding stuff to do in terms of, like, you want to tour the Vatican, you want to skip the line. Always book a tour for places that are, like, really busy. Airbnb experiences, Ashley and I love them, for things like boats and things like that. Airbnb experiences, I mean, we love a boat. That's our vibe. But, like, I've heard, there's really cool shit.

I've heard of people going to like Italy and you go to someone's home and they teach you out to make pasta. I mean, there's these really, really cool experiences. And of course, you can read the reviews and stuff like that. Yes. And then TikTok, I mean, like, Onushka and I've been passing back and forth so many Mekanos TikToks. You were telling me there was like packing for Greece. For an example, we're in Greece. So we're just talking about it. But we have so many resources. And I have always loved just posting on my Instagram story exactly what I'm looking for. Like I remember one city we went to, it might even just been like Portland. I'm looking for coffee shops, rooftop vibes, like this specific stuff.

So people know what you're looking for when you say like, people love to give recs. They absolutely fucking love it. I think I used this example before that my brother went to New Orleans. My brother doesn't have a bunch of followers. Maybe it's like a thousand or two thousand. And people, even with a small following, just love to give recommendations. To me, when I say, when I say posting your Instagram story, question slide, ask for recommendations,

just be specific. Because people will just tell you what they like to do and you're like, I hate that. So here's what I'm into. here's the vibes I like go off. We've had really good luck. I mean, we have so much good luck. A large following. Remember when I went to Minneapolis

and I made my own travel. Well, Ashley's the mayor of Minneapolis. I miss you, Minneapolis every day. And then just Google like three days in whatever, three days in Lisbon and lots of people have travel tips. And if you want food, what I do is I look up top ten lists and I cross-reference like five different top ten lists in a city and I just see what appears on most lists.

And I usually go to those places. The last thing I would say about websites, I would be aware of TripAdvisor because typically the places that have the most reviews are, for example, in New York City, like Applebee's in Times Square is going to have the most reviews that's going to be highly rated.

Listen, we both have the biggest one in the world and I'm trying to have my birthday there. But I'm not trying to eat there on a trip. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I just wanted to show it some love. I would be weary. Weary. Are you good? I don't know, maybe. I would be cautious.

I'm TripAdvisor because typically the stuff in the Times Square areas of cities is what's going to get the most ratings. That does not mean it's good. Hot tip. Yeah, for sure. Okay, are those your tips? So I think that I've gone in so many trips that I've loved and I've gone in some that I hated. And I think as you get older, you just kind of like don't do the shit you don't want to do. You know what I mean? Like I think there's no harm in being like, I don't want to do that. I'm not going on that trip. Or just planning the trip that you want. I mean, I think that the number one thing with a trip is managing expectations and like actually thinking ahead and like what the group is, what's the plan? do I need to help plan? Do we want to stay in a house or a hotel? Like a lot of this is just like,

if you're a go with the flow person and you're down for whatever, that is great. And I really used to be a whole lot more like that. Like I didn't, I was just like, yeah, I never cared. But if you do care and you're like, I'm spending money on this, I want to have a good experience, like get involved, you know, get involved with the planning or just kind of like feel out what the vibe's going to be. I personally really do love an it. And I don't mean like a jam packed military style doing something every hour. I can't just like roll into a city and wing it. And I don't want to. My stance on it is like, I don't want to go to a place I've never been and not have plans. I like to do dope shit. And I think a lot of that requires advanced planning, reservations,

bookings, things like that. I just like to know what's going on. I feel like it's so fun, especially when you're planning a girl's trip, like you get the itinerary, like Hannah's Bachelorette, for example, or like all the bachelors I've been on. It's like, here's what we're doing. Everybody gets all excited. They know what to plan. They know what to wear. They know what to pack. And when I say itinerary, like one day could just be like beach day. You know, like, I just like to know what we're doing and I think when you don't have plans, everybody's putting their input, where should we eat, what should we do? It gets hectic. It's tense, people can fight. And again, not overplanned, but like a general idea and some reservations. Like, again, it's just to me, I think that it's

pointless to go somewhere and not know what the fuck you're going to do and it causes a whole lot less stress. I've been on girls trips where we all planned an activity. Like I went on like a four-day trip. I was assigned like to plan the Saturday and I planned this boat and I won the Bachelorette. but I thought that was fun to break it up like that so someone's not in charge of like planning everything. Right. And if you're not the person likes to plan, I don't want to plan anything.

I don't want to do it. I will land in a city and just do whatever, wing it. I'll find cool shit to do. I don't like to plan. But if you are the kind of person that doesn't like to plan and other people are going to put energy

into doing it, you can't get upset. Like I am going with the flow on a trip because I'm like this is what everybody wants to do. I'm not going to be fucking bitching. We've all been on like vacations with people like that. They're like, I don't want to do this thing. Don't go.

Yeah. or go with the flow. Yeah. I don't want to put myself in any. I want to go back to one that you said. I'm not doing anything I don't want to do. Camping, I'm not going. Ski trips.

We like popped off about this in the car. How many ski trips have we been invited on? I don't want to. Ashley, like, Ashley told a friend of ours. She's like, I don't want to go skiing. I'm not doing it. I was like, you could do that. I told her friend.

I was like, we will do a winter trip. We're going dog sledding. We're going snowmobiling. I'll walk around in those snows. Like, I love winter shit. But I'm not skiing. And I'm not going. I used to like feel the pressure to say yes to these kind of things

and then I would just sit in a house all day long by myself. I'm not skiing. I don't like it. It's not fun. I'm not getting suited up. Not spending the money. I don't like being cold. It's a lot of athletic activity.

It's dangerous. It scares me. I'm bad at it. Everything about it. I hate it. I'm not going on a ski trip. Ashley said no. I was like,

I can't believe I get to do that. But I think it would be fun. We have a group of friends that keep inviting us. I would go like we would go with you and I would feel so much better about myself because we wouldn't do that and we would do the other fun shit. where are we going? We're going to do this. We do the dog sledding and stuff. We're going with Rob. Rob and Bobby. But like where?

Idaho. Idaho. I'm dying to dog sled and I'm dying to snowmobile because you know I love to jet ski. So jet skiing in the snow, sign me up. Yeah, I would do that. I'm not skiing on like it. I don't know any of you like it. It's fucking stupid. Oh my God. No, it's not. Here's other things I don't want to do. I don't want to ride a bike. I don't want to go camping. I don't really like music festivals unless I'm in a VIP area. I was talking my dad about this guy. I was like, there's a lot of stuff I don't like. I think it's understandable though. And it's so funny because one of the things

that I've had so much fun doing in different cities, Paris is one of them, is a bike tour around the city. And that's your nightmare. We had one day where we booked the best, most fun, bike tour, because I loved a bike around a city and see it. So that's something that, like, I always want to put on my list or even like a walking tour. It's more your vibe. But you're just like, if there's bikes involved, Rayna's not going. I can't ride a bike, you guys. Listen, we all flaws. And I also don't care if people do stuff without me. Like, I'm perfectly fine on my own. I don't want to take a three or four day where I'm like by myself for a full day, but like a week long trip where I'm by myself for a few hours. I don't get a shit. Yeah. And I think of, you know, we were in Australia. It was like

me and you and you and Merrill. And that's when I was like, three people was ideal. I really like four. I think four is like perfect. I really, because you can kind of pair off. But like there were times when Marilyn and I went and did stuff that you didn't do, you know, and it's just, it's nice to break it up. You don't have to like be two people and trying to entertain each other for a whole trip. a dinner that I, like, left. I was so tired. I was going to, like, falsely. I was like a face plant at that dinner. Oh, the Italian place. Yeah, I got to dream. It was great. Right. It's so true. Like, that is such a great example. And like, for me, I was like, I really want to go to this spin class. Like, I'm back to bikes. And you would have never. Back then, I would have never.

So I had Merrill to go with me. Yeah. Merrill is, like, did some other stuff. Merrill is, like, the ideal travel partner. She speaks every language. You guys, she is truly, travel to, I know. I keep trying to get her to, I was like, come to Portugal. I'll pay for your, I'm trying to come. She can. She's too busy with work. but that is a hot tip right there, someone that knows the language. It's not going to be me. Because I went with her to Mexico City.

Merrill's fluent and Spanish and Portuguese. And it's so nice because I will say I'm obsessed with Mexico City. It is not your Cancun where everyone speaks English. So it was really nice because I don't language barriers really stress me out. I have a lot of anxiety around it. And that's another tip too. This is something that I know about myself. You could not just drop me off in Asia.

I would be so stressed. I have all the admiration for people that, just configure it out, especially with the language that, like, I can't even read the characters. Like, I'm like, I can't even, I don't even know, I have no idea. And I know that many places in Asia are super friendly for Americans in terms of translations and things like that. I get it. But I like to be with somebody who maybe has been to a place like that before or knows the language. Like, I'm just not that kind of person. Maybe I'm like not as adventurous, but I don't want to be in a country, especially alone or with one of the person where we're just like the blind,

leaving the blind. Like, it's just not for me. It's not a great experience. I mean, I've traveled so, so much. If you guys are like new to the podcast, I've just like, I've traveled the world. I've traveled all over Asia and Europe and South America. Like I love it. It's really like an important piece of my life. But there's some places I just would say like are not great as like first time travelers. Like I went to Istanbul.

It's amazing. But yeah, I didn't speak the language. It was like a real problem. My friend's boyfriend, luckily spoke the language and the trip was amazing because he was from there. 100%. Like someone like bring me to Japan. So places like, so Japan is like a good example.

I found in Tokyo and this is literally just my. experience. I can't speak to it, but like, it's not like a tourist city the way that like New Orleans is or Charleston or what, like, no one would speak English to me because it's not a tourism based society. Right. Again, just my experience. I don't know that anybody else echoes that, but I had a tougher time in places that like they're not dependent on tourism for the economy. So they're less likely to learn English to speak English to you. Whereas I was really shocked. I went to Cambodia and Vietnam. Everybody spoke English. Yeah. And let's just be clear. We're not expecting people to cater to us and speak English.

Like, this is on us, you know? Like, I'm just one of those people that has a lot more anxiety surrounding it. And I know that about myself. Some people really are fine. They use translation apps. Like, they just feel good about it. And I don't really feel good about it. But we're not saying people need to fucking cater to Americans.

That's just, don't get a twisted. No. And then my last thing, I mean, I just, I used to be able to just like do whatever, binge drink every night, eat my face off, feel fine. Wake up the next morning, do it again. and my body can't handle it anymore. So I kind of like, I have to go into a trip and like really assess how I'm going to be okay

for the long haul. And a lot of that is just like, I figure out where I can get a workout in. I stay hydrated. I bring my liquid IV. I bring my emergency. I self-talk myself before meals. Like don't go overboard.

Like I don't like to feel like tired and bloated and not like fitting in my clothes. And I just used to go ham on everything. And I would feel like shit coming back from a trip. Like I think about the trips I went on in my 20s and like the recovery I would need like post trip. Because you go like you're at a hundred. when in terms of like drinking and eating and partying.

And then I just don't feel like that anymore. Like I come back and I'm tired, but my body still feels and looks the same. I'm glad it never occurred to me to talk about that. I'm glad you said it because I stress out that like so many trips are revolve around like, when's our next feeding? Once's our next feeding?

What are we drinking? You drink every single night. And I do feel really beat up. And so I like try to, whatever is. I try to eat a salad for a lot to take a walk by myself in the morning. I pack sneakers for this trip and work out. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing.

Because to eat out every meal, which you want to be in a place. and experience the culture and eat at the restaurants. Like, I get it. And I've done it. But that's not how I normally am. So it really makes you, for me, makes me feel like sluggish and tired. And then then I'm just kind of fucked up for the next day.

And so sometimes it's like we don't need to go out for lunch and dinner. And, you know, like I like a routine, at least to start the day. Like, yeah, when we were in Miami for The Bachelor, I was like, I need to go to my place and get my assay bowl. Like, I don't need to be wolfened down a bunch of food for three meals. And again, everybody's body's different. But for me, like, I have to watch myself just. just so I, like, feel good and healthy and can, like, keep going and enjoying the trip. Mm-hmm.

I used to have to do a lot of self-talk. I mean, I used to have more eating issues than I do now. I just used to be more stressed out about, like, what I put in my body, and am I going to gain weight? And I would advise you to let go of that and really experience a culture and really lean into eating what is in that country and enjoy the food and not think about it so much. Oh, for sure, for sure. And maybe this doesn't hit everybody as much as it did for me.

But, like, I used to be so obsessed with, like, I'd go on a juice cleanse for three days on the way up to a trip. And I would like stress like how much I was eating. And I would go to Italy and eat like four pieces of pizza a day. And it was like great. It felt really nice to just like let it go. Oh, for sure. And it's just for me, it's like you can taste everything and eat everything.

But like I don't want to feel like you got to roll me out of the restaurant every night. I won't be, I won't have a good time. Even with like the mind and gut connection. But listen, a lot of people get constipated when they fly overseas. So keep it in mind. I remember going to Italy with my family when I was maybe like 19. We went as a family. And I just didn't poop for days.

It, like, fucked me up, and I just, it would not come out. I heard that the longer the flight, the more constipated you get, because the altitude makes you constipated, and that's why we get constipated. I don't know the answer, but it really does happen. And so prep for that, whatever. My friend, I will not say her name, but I was sharing with her in Miami. Yes. She had to go give herself an animal.

Yeah. Because she was like, I'm so physically uncomfortable. Like, I like traveling with friends because it breeds, like, the closeness that you'll never, find otherwise. Like, she could have just done that in her own home if we were in New York, but she had to like get up out of the bed that we were in and go give herself an enema. And I was laughing so hard. I mean, that's why we're so close with Bella.

Remember in Kansas City? I was, my full ass was out for what 30 minutes. Well, I spilled it all over myself. Bella has my pants in front of a fan. And I'm just running around, ass jiggling, just in a tight space. Like, you just get close. Every time I looked at you, your butt crack was out. And I was like, Bella, are they drying?

I spent a pint glass of water on my pants 30 minutes before the show was about to start. They were soaked. I was like, Bella, go find a fan. Bella knows too much about our lives and our bodies. Yeah, I feel like Bella could pick my bare ass out of a lineup. I could, though. I could, yeah. That has the times of long cracks.

The dent, but also the crack. I give a birth mark. I think I was most recognizable ass in this country. Yeah, she supersedes Kim Kardashian. All the Kardashians. Has she's out. He'd be like, no one has a more recognizable ass to me. I'm the other side of the spectrum.

I love traveling with girlfriends so much. And it's the closest I'll ever get with somebody. Like a couple summers ago, I like went and stayed in this like cabin with my friend Lindsay and her sister. And like we were always close, but I felt like it made us like sisters to go like stay there for a long period of time. And I never really prioritized traveling with friends. Like that was always your experience.

It was not my college experience. I never felt like I really wanted to travel with a big group of girls. And like I know people get into relationships. and like, that's it. They don't take girls trips, you know? So I would really encourage people to do it because I never did. And now I do it all the time. And I just love it so much. And we've taken really special girls trips with more of your friends. And I just, I love it. It wasn't something I ever really thought that I would enjoy so much. It's really special. And never stop doing this. Even when you get married. Like my mom's on a girl trip right now. My mom is in Ireland with her best friend. My dad is

at home with the dogs drinking wine as we speak probably. Like you never have to stop. Like, I go on so many trips with my married friends. I mean, this is not a hot take. If you listen to the show, you know that we stand for things like this. But it's so important also just to get away from your partner, miss them a little bit. Like, girls trips do not stop when you get married. When you have kids, they just don't. I think I used to get a little social anxiety thinking about being with a huge group of girls, like eight girls. I used to have social anxiety about like, am I going to have to drink too much? Am I going to stay out late? Like, I know that you and I've been talking a lot about like your hydration journey and me drinking less.

But like even when I was 19, I didn't really, I've never been the kind of person wants to stay out until three in the morning. I don't like it. I'm never the last person at the bar, but I'm the first person out of the bar. And I had a lot of social anxiety about like, are people going to like start shit with me if I want to go home? I don't really want to do the same stuff as everybody. But there's nothing wrong with just going home.

Like there's nothing wrong with leaving the bar at midnight if that's what you want to do. Like I would forego a whole trip thinking that like my social anxiety about that would cause me to have a bad time. But now I can just go home. Nobody cares. It does just totally change when you get into your 30s. I mean, I was the last person at the bar fucking a dude in the ocean, waking up, like walking home at sunrise in Miami when I was 27. And 10 years later, I am the first person to leave. Like, we're leaving together. We're like, can we go yet? Like, it's just people just care less. I mean, I think, listen, I do think that like, there is a little bit of like judgment and pressure when you are younger. Like, oh my God, how could you? Like, we're staying down.

all night. So I do understand, have a little bit of anxiety around it. But also, no one should care. No one should give you a hard time. And I think sometimes you can even preface that. If you were worried about it and you're going on a trip and there's just people party harder than you, like you can say, I'm going to go, but no one give me a hard time when I want to leave. Like you could almost get ahead of it. And they want you to go still. So you could say to the group like, you guys know me. I'm the grandma of the group. You know, like, I'm going to go home early. Please nobody give me shit. And like set it up before you go. So like when you ghost out, everyone's like, oh, Sherty, they're not going to pressure you in the moment you got ahead of it.

It's so true. I never would have said that to anybody. Now I'm in my 30s and I'm the first person to be like, you guys know I'm not like the fun girl. I'm not, I'm fun. I'm into a point. I'm not staying out any later. I don't need to like do a bunch of Coke and be up until 5 in the morning. I don't need to do it. It's not fun for me.

I don't want to feel like dog shit all day. I don't want to sleep the whole next day. There's just a certain way I want to be and I'm very comfortable saying that now, but it would have stopped me from doing things in the past. So I like what you said just get ahead of it. I never ever would have been able to do that. would have been like, I would have ghosted out. I wouldn't have told anybody where I went, which is also like, asshole shit to do, because then people are, like, worried about you.

I know. You do have to, I don't really condone the Irish exit when you're in a different place. Yeah. People worry about you. Like, you just got to let people know. Let one person know. You know what I mean. And sometimes they're drunk and they might forget, but at least you told them. I just, I've, I've even had to kind of like come to terms with not being that girl anymore that, like, is the last one up doing crazy stuff, sleeping with a random dude, coming home. Like, it's ever been really, like, drugs for me. But I would never have left early. in my 20s or even my early 30s, and it's like, I just had to come to terms of it.

Like, I'm different now, which is what happens as you get older. Yeah, and it's fine. Like, we went to Hannah's Bachelorette. And the first night, we went so hard. And the second night, we, like, I feel like we ate all day. We were at the pool. We were drinking. And what was it, like, 1130 or, like, midnight?

We were at Keyes on the river. I, like, hit the wall. I just, I didn't want to do it anymore. Like, there was, it was so wild. It was so crazy. There was so much alcohol. There was so much food. I ate too much at dinner.

I just, I don't want to fucking be there anymore. Yeah. I also feel like by midnight people are pretty fucked up. You can just lie. I stay until one last night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, should we talk about traveling with a partner? Oh my God.

Nothing will make me fall out of love fast. I literally was like, you should know how someone travels, but sometimes you're going to find out in the moment. You don't know what's going to happen. I mean, I've traveled with a lot of partners, and I feel like over the years, there's so many things I've sort of changed my stance on

or maybe walked back or doubled down on. one thing I think that I've always stuck with is like it's never too soon to go on a trip with a partner. I think that like three weeks in, if you like it, you're feeling the person. Why not? You are going to learn a lot about them and it will just speed up the inevitable. Yeah. I mean, either way. Like if you're going to be together. I mean, I said this before. I went on a trip with my ex four or five weeks in. No, nothing crazy. We drove. We went to Charleston. That's when we became official. It was the best thing we could have done. Yeah. So one of the things I like to ask on a first date, I always, always say, if you can travel anywhere regardless of money or weather, like time

of year, where would you go? And I've sort of reframed that. And this is a tip from Matchmaker Maria. She said, always ask people, how do you like to travel? And I think that's a great thing to ask on a first date. Like, I just see how people like to spend their money, you know? Do people like to go to a city like Rome where there's like so many museums and tourist stuff?

Or does somebody want to like sit on a beach and an all inclusive resort in Cancun? Like, if that's what somebody says out of the gate, like that's probably not my match, really because travel for me is so important. So if you don't like to travel like I do, I'm probably not your girl. Yeah. And I think something so important is like hearing about the way they like to travel and like do you like to get up

early? Like we know that I am not a morning person, but I get up way earlier on trips. Like I hate to like miss out. If I'm up you know at eight or nine and you want to sleep till 11 in a foreign country, nope. Now we've missed like

the breakfast. You know, like I I would hate it. Absolutely not. We were on a trip last year in the winter with a big group of girls. And one of the girls kind of split off from the trip. Her boyfriend came. And, like, she met us for brunch one morning at, like, 11. And I was like, where is he?

And she was like, oh, he sleeps till, like, noon or one. And I was like, on your vacation? Right. That is crazy to me. But listen, no judgment. If that's what you like to do because you're going to stay up until four, like, you're in a visa. You're, you're like, that's why I came.

Then that's okay, too. Right. I just want to know. Like, I'm trying to soak up those daytime hours, not stay out all night. That's true. So, yeah, I got to know, like, do you want to sleep all day long? It's so true. Like, how do you like to spend your money?

Where do you like to stay? Like, are you trying to stay in a really tourist area? Is that important to you? Like, do you prioritize location over costs? Like, what? How do you like to travel? It's really important to me because, like, I will judge you so hard. It will make it hard for me to be attracted to you.

I mean, and also, like, it goes back to, like, the, like, listen, an ex of mine where we went on a couple trips. Like, we sat together wherever in the plane. We were so fucking corny. We would pick a movie, hit play at the same time, watch it together. Like, we would be in seats 30A and 30B. Like did not give a shit. I had no TSA precheck. I had no status. Like, and this is not that long ago. You know, we're talking like five, six years ago, six, seven years ago. It didn't matter to me, but it matters now. And we say this with Bella even. Like, we were like, thank God, our assistant has all the things we have. Like, she's TSA precheck. She is cleared. and she's working on her sky lounge access.

But she got it. She got it. She's ready to go. And I fly at the front of the plane. Like I just, I'm different. I've changed and so I don't know. It's hard to talk about without sounding like a snob, but I'm going to pay you to have a nice experience now. So I don't know what happened.

I haven't experienced it yet. If I'm going on a trip with somebody and they're like, oh, I don't roll like that. I can't afford it. It's not fun. Like, it's just not fun traveling with somebody where you feel either. that you have to compromise the type of experience you want to have in any way, whether it's the person sleeps all day or they don't want to spend that kind of money of you, or conversely that you feel taken advantage of and that you're the person has to pay for all this

stuff if you guys want to do it. And I mean, I can't talk about this enough on the show. I talk about it constantly just like disparities and money. Like you just have to ask somebody like, what are you comfortable doing and like ask yourself personally, am I comfortable picking up the check? Like it's become so much more important to me over the years to like be with somebody that can, like, handle their business, take care of shit. Like, I don't really, I don't want to pay for you. I don't want to pay for you. I don't want to contribute any money to you.

I also want you to help me plan this. I want you to be, like, an active participant in what we're doing. I don't want to feel like, not only am I paying for this, I'm also planning all this. I'd love to be with a guy that, like, just Googles the city. And it's like, this looks like a cool thing to do. That's part of it too. It's like, listen, like, it's not the end of the world. And like, you're with somebody you love.

Like, I'll wait in line with you a little longer. I'll pay for you to get in the Sky Club if I need to. If we have hours to spend, like it's not that. I'm not paying for your first class flight, but we'll figure that out when we get to it. But if they are doing stuff otherwise, like they're really a doer, they're a problem solver.

They're going to like call the Uber's. They're going to like, you know, help you with your luggage, maybe. Or like, they're just that type of person that makes up for a lot. It's just when you're carrying the entire load and you're paying for it. And it's so funny because we, I mean, you know, Bella works for us.

She's our assistant and she is a problem. problem solver and a doer, and we talked about this on her episode. But it's so funny once we started traveling with her, we're like, she is so much more competent than anyone we've dated. She is. She's a 23-year-old woman. She is so much more competent than the adult men that we have traveled with by a landslide. Yes, I just, I've traveled with adult men, and it's like, it's their first day.

I find it, like, I need you to be able to, like, handle your shit. And it's really fucking unattracted to me if you look like a lost baby. be at an airport. Like, I just want you to be, like, intentional. I want you to help me with stuff. And, like, I think that men are not idiot morons. They manage to handle all kinds of other stuff. And it almost becomes this, like, self-fulfilling prophecy where you're like, I'll just handle it. I'll just handle it. I'll just handle it. And then they just kind of like take a back seat. Like, I find it so attractive when somebody's like, you know what, I got this. I looked up this cool tour. It's open on this day. It's not open on this day. Like, let's do this thing. Like,

it's fine if you can't afford the same stuff, but, like, contribute somehow. And, like, act like, you're awake. Yeah, I mean, I took a road trip with Rob when he moved from Atlanta to New York. We stopped in like four or five different places fucking ruined me for life. I was like, but then I still would continue to like, you know, I had boyfriends that I travel with. Rob and I were just obviously just friends, but that I was like, oh, God. Like, I wish they could just be a little more competent, a little more high functioning, as Rayna always says. But I think when it comes to money too, it just depends. You know, you should know what your partner's working with, what you have.

I mean, these conversations can be casual or they can be. be more concise depending on the relationship. You know, it's usually like, we're booking our own flights, you know, and here's what we're doing about the hotel or the house and you have a gauge for it, you know, or maybe you do need to discuss it. And maybe it's like, I am going to cover the hotel, but I, you know, expect you to pick up some meals. Maybe you get all of the transportation or whatever it is.

Or I think that there's plenty of relationships. If we're talking about a man and a woman, man makes a whole lot more money and both parties are aware and they're like, I'm going to pay for most of this trip and take you on this trip. and hopefully you're with somebody that you trust and that doesn't mean like, and now you have to, now you owe me. You know, like, these are just conversations that sometimes aren't sexy,

but that you just need to have before you get down that road. Must have the conversations. I was such a little bitch for so long. You've got to have them. The only thing worse than not having it is not having it. And yeah, like men have been taking women on trips for decades, centuries,

and not expecting you to pay a dime or anything. I know it's like a new shift that like women make more money. men sometimes, but I do think it's always been that like men will pay and women will plan. So like, I think it's okay to expect that that like your partner plans a little bit. Like I... It's a good call. Yeah, we know a married couple where he is so rich. And she is not.

She is now. But she plans everything. And we know a couple couples like that actually. And that's fine. It's like the man makes so much more money and the woman plans the trips. And this isn't in a way that she works for him. she's an assistant, she likes to plan. It's a nice dynamic.

I think it's great. And I want input, but I've like said before about an ex-mini, I fell out of love with him at the airport. Like, I just did. Like, I just, I felt like I don't trust you to, like, handle things. I don't trust you to, like, ask the questions you need to. And I'm not going to micromanage another adult. I'm just not going to do it.

And it was fine in my 20s. You guys can go back and listen to the episode from years ago. I talked about my fiance and I took this trip to Puerto Rico. Like, he booked the wrong hotel. He grabbed the wrong luggage off the luggage. the luggage belt. Like, I couldn't believe the stuff he did. He left his phone in an Uber.

He dropped the iPad. I bought him off a balcony. I was hysterical crying at this dog shit hotel. I allowed him to book without double checking his work. I was hysterical sobbing to my mom. I was like, this is what men are like. And I was like, I don't want to be with a man like this. This is crazy that I'm on the hook for all this stuff.

And we were financially equal on that whole trip. But I just felt like, can you not handle anything? Right. I mean, it's crazy. Like, people break up on trips. Yeah. I broke up with a boyfriend of mine on a cruise ship. Not ideal. Not ideal. Don't break up when you're trapped on a vessel together. Insane. Insane thing to do. Um, and another thing I wanted to say, too, I didn't say this. Like, we talk about trips like doing stuff, waking up early, experience in the city. But I also think there's a lot to be said for a straight up relaxation, all inclusive, if that's your vibe. Like, you don't plan anything. You stay in a resort. Like, I've enjoyed, I've enjoyed. those types of trips too. And again, it's just managing expectations. That's like the number one thing. And I do think there is a lot to be set for that trip too. I think you want what you want at different times. Like you both, if you both work really hard, you've been going really hard and you're like, we're going to go to this resort and like have, be waited on hand and foot and not have to plan

a damn thing and lay on the beach and eat and drink. Like that's great too. And fuck, it sounds great. Yes, and have sex. Exactly too. It sounds great. It's like honeymoon style. I was just, the more I think about it, like, I really fell out of love with two people on vacation because I was just like, you can't handle anything. I don't like it. And it's just not, it's like, I didn't used to be so much like that. We just used to be, like, it's kind of when you're both just kind of rolling through life in a little more chaotic way, it's like, can be fun.

You're like, whatever, we both almost miss the flight. We're in the back of the plane. It changes. And you want what you want and you grow up. Yeah, and you're allowed to change your mind. Also, like, you're allowed to be like, yeah, when you met me, it was like this. But now it's time to grow up a little bit. Yeah.

How do you feel about bringing a significant other on a trip with your friends? A couple's trip. Oh, a couple's trip. I think the couples trips are so fun. Yeah? I think that's like one of the best types of trips. Couple trips. Yeah, where guys can like bro out and have fun.

It's like kind of ideal. They go golf and shit. I know. And then you just get to like meet up later. You do like, I mean, I'm being like so stereotypical, but you and the girls have a spa day and they fucking do whatever they do. It is nice to like have like both genders on a trip. I like it a lot. Yeah.

I mean, that's why like we, this trip, but like we're a record. is we're about to go on, but is, it's like kind of perfect. It's two couples and then me and Raina and then one other guy, which is great because I was like, oh my God, it's going to be three couples, me and Raina and like two other couples. And then Brian came. So it just kind of breaks it up a little bit. I agree. I mean, yes, I love a girl's trip more than anybody, but I love girls and guys too. I like some male energy on the trip. But we were timeout before and I brought an ex of mine on a trip with like our friends. And I just, I didn't love it. I felt like it was really hard integrating him into the group. I don't think he was enjoying it. And it was really

tough for me. And I just, I think that we write these things off, these like red flags, because you love a person. And of course, everybody has like different social anxieties. So I wouldn't break up with somebody because they're not great on a group trip. But it was sort of like a writing on the wall moment for me where I was like, is this what all social situations are going to be like with him for a long time? Is he not like social situations? And that's fine. It's just we're mismatched socially. Because I want to be in a big group and I like it. And I like and I like social activities and meeting new people and chit-chatting. And I didn't see that he was the kind of person that, like, wanted to ask people a lot of questions about themselves and wanted to, like, really get in there.

And no shade, if that's what you're like, but you have to date another person like that, you know? I think there are some couples where, like, they really grow from their partner and they see that their partners like that and they'll change. And it'll, like, I've seen people, like, really blossom. But for me, it was really tough and I didn't like it. And the writing was, like, really on the wall. And I think I was trying to just, like, ram a square peg into a round hole. Yeah. Do you want to talk about solo travel a little bit?

Yeah, I mean, I don't have a... Can't relate. I traveled a lot by myself. My fiance left me when I was 27 or 28. I hadn't traveled anywhere. So I just like went buck wild. And I would encourage anybody to do it. It's not something that I enjoy as much today as I used to.

I just was really trying to like get it in and see the world. Just like a couple things. People have always asked me, is it safe? I would only go to safe places. I would stay in safe places. I would stay in high traffic areas. There's places I've gone by myself that I've really regretted. and I did not feel safe.

And so, like, in the U.S., like places that I think would be great for solo travel are like Austin, Charleston, Miami, anywhere there's like a lot of stuff going on. Yeah, I mean, my only thing with those places are, if it's a party town, I never want to go to a place

where people are out partying and I'm alone. So I actually disagree a little bit. Yeah. Like if you're in Miami, Charleston, Austin, everyone's living their best life. They're on girls trips. They're on bachelorets. They're like partying.

I feel more alone. So I wouldn't choose places that are party towns. I wouldn't. So, I mean, I would go to all those. like a spa in Sedona or something. I would go to all those places by myself. I think that you can go out to eat by yourself. All those places have great restaurants.

Maybe not Miami. But Charleston and Austin, I would definitely go to by myself. And I think that the fear is like, what's it going to look like when I'm eating by myself? What's going to look like when I'm at a bar by myself? No one cares. Yeah.

Oh, and I don't mean from an image standpoint. I just mean like, I don't like the way it feels when everybody's like with, you know, partying it up, living it up. And I'm like alone. I just would go to a way more low-key place. Yeah. That's not been my experience.

I've had like a really great time being by myself in Barcelona and Rome and London and all over Europe. I really enjoyed it. It didn't bother me. And I think that you just got to get out of your head about like people looking at you and then feeling weird. There's some places I didn't enjoy. But Tokyo is a place where you should like stay out all night party with a big group of people. And like it wasn't great for me solo. Places like you said where nobody speaks English.

I went to Russia by myself. Not great. Yeah. I was like you're going to hate it. Yep. Not great experience. But what do you feel like about like I've done? never been, but like I feel like I'd want to do like a Bali, like Eat, Pray, Love trip, but myself.

So I like Bali. Yeah. I like Bali because it's one of those places where people tend to travel to alone also. There's other solo travelers. Thailand is like that too. Bangkok. There's a lot of people that go to places like that by themselves specifically to meet people. So if you look up places that like a lot of solo travelers go to, that's like a great

one. I would never do this, but I used to. It's staying hostels. It's a great place to meet people. Like it's the absolute cheapest, obviously, and best place to meet people. There's a lot of solo travelers staying there. You'll just meet people and it's fun and people will be your age and there's just a lot of like group stuff that you can do with people.

I don't know. I mean, I feel like a lot of my travel tips for going groups is it remains. I mean, I would have a plan. I would go on Viterer. I'd book tours. I also used to be like really weird. Like if I go on this group tour, people are going to think it's weird. Everybody thinks it's awesome.

People are like, what are you doing here? How did you get here alone? That's so crazy. It's so cool. People always want to talk to. you and include you. It's just never weird. And then pack your day. Like, I enjoy solo travel because I can get up super early. I can do things at my own pace. I don't drink as much. I don't stay out as much like late. I've just, I've really enjoyed it. Now I would probably do it much for a shorter

period of time. I used to go to travel like by myself for weeks at a time. Now two days, maybe three. Yeah. And again, it's just, it's personal preference. It's just, I don't think it's for me. But it's not because I'm like, can't get out of my comfort zone. This isn't like a fear. It's just like, I don't think I'm that kind of person. Yeah. I like it less now that I have more people to travel with. And back then I had more money and more time off than any of my friends. And so I was not going to let that stop me from doing stuff. For sure, for sure. Because I was like 27 and I had the ability to like go to Southeast Asia for three weeks alone. And I was like, I'm not going to wait for somebody right now to do this. I love that message. So don't put yourself in unsafe situations.

Don't walk down dark alleys by yourself. Don't get hammered drunk alone. I mean, obviously terrible things can happen, especially to women by the themselves. So just be safe. If you don't have an international phone plan, every coffee shop on earth has Wi-Fi. You can pop in there. There's tons of maps. You can download offline. I like it. I would pack my day with stuff, though. The kind of like whimsy, I'll just do whatever. Like, that would make me feel really alone if I just didn't have anything planned. Yeah. Yeah. And ask around when it comes to safety. I mean, I will say it's like, I don't, I feel like Mexico City as a city would be so cool alone. But like, it is not the safest. And so really think about where you're

staying there and talk to people who have been. I mean, we were told, like, you're going to be fine. But, like, once you're in the Airbnb for the night, I wouldn't leave at midnight. I wouldn't go run out to the bodega in the middle of the night. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I still felt safe 100%. I felt safe and, you know, security.

And you've stayed in hotels there and stuff like that. But, like, that city would be kind of bomb alone. The museums and the pyramids to hike and, like, the restaurants and stuff like that. There's so much to do. So much to do. I do want to walk back a little bit what I said about the U.S. cities, and I would still go to any of those cities by myself,

but I haven't really traveled to the U.S. by myself. I mean, I think if it's a short flight, I would rather be with a friend. I've traveled a lot in Europe alone, and any major A-list tourist city is going to feel safe. There's going to be a ton of options that are cheap. There's going to be a ton of stuff to do. You could stay in a really well-populated area,

and that's the places I would go. Like, I would go by myself to London, Paris, Barcelona, Rome, Florence, and half. Yeah. Other places, little less safe. I went to Cambodia by myself, wouldn't recommend it. Third world countries by yourself wouldn't recommend it. But other than that, be brave.

Don't let the fact that you don't have somebody to go with, stop you from doing stuff. And just explore the world. Try it once. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay, so we asked you guys on Instagram for a couple tips. Some of these are really great. So download maps to your phones.

You can access them without data. That is really smart. Bring snacks for your man. No. Bring sex for you. Bring sex for me. That's the other thing about Rob. He just always has extra food for us.

Do you have a day that we were like, we were hungry and he just placed the order and did that? If any men are listening, we always want snacks. So have them on you. Keep location on for friends or family. If you're going solo, that's a great tip too. Just like letting someone track you. Especially if your parents are retired,

they would love nothing more. Did it track you? Yes. Remember to turn that off when you get back. Like if I was like traveling alone, I was like, dad, can you keep tag? was me. What else is he doing? Our friend Emily, her mom just has her find her location on and she's like, where did you sleep last night? You got to remember to turn it off. That is so funny. Figure out a daily

budget. You're both comfortable with. You're traveling with a partner. I used to keep an Excel spreadsheet of every single hotel, every flight, like just so I knew what I thought of the show. Yeah, no, it's great. Don't suffer with having to take a shit. Tell your partner, you need privacy in the morning for like 10 minutes. I mean, Raina can talk about this forever, but you're a big lobby pooper. I am a big lobby pooper. We're also, Google the hotels and look at what the bathrooms look like. If they have those sliding doors that don't actually shut, fuck that place. And it is like 80% of hotels. There's like a little gap between the sliding door.

I'm not trying to have my man listen to me and smell me, take a shit. It's so crazy. Like I've gotten to a point where I will like want to call ahead to the hotel and ask if they will walk and shower. I'm done with tups. I don't want it. I mean, nice hotels usually at both. You take a bath and a shower.

But, you know, I love a bath. I love a bath. I love this tip when you're doing a family trip with a partner, a schedule at least one solo date. I really love that. I'm thinking of some family trips that I took with an ex-mine, and I feel like we always did take that solo time. And I think that was something he even suggested,

like, why don't you and I just go to dinner? And my family's cool. And they're like, yeah, you do you. So I really like that tip. I did it with my partner last year. And it's just, it can be a lot to be with your family. And you're not insulting anybody. Nobody really cares.

And I think it really just helps sort of ease the tension. Also, like, make sure you have sex on the trip. Bring a book so you can escape if you need some alone time. Never don't bring up. I've never not brought a book on a trip. What book are you bringing? Right now I'm reading that book with a bad cover. That book is that stupid cover art.

Right now, I'll show you guys the cut. I showed Bella. It's a bad, but it's good? Yeah, it is good. Okay, thoughts about fiction versus nonfiction on vacation. I mean, I straight up always read fiction. Like, if a book that I'm bringing on a trip is always going to be a really good, good page Turner

a beach read vibe is what I'm bringing on a trip. I bought this Robert Green book, The Laws of Human Nature and it's like so deep in psychological and I love it but like I can get through like one page a day. Yeah and I do like I like books that are just really easy to dive into and they're just like you know lighter Fiction is what I want to bring on a trip like because I will

sometimes be on a plane and when they tell you like you have to put everything away when you're landing for that last like 30 minutes like sometimes I'll just like whip out a book because that's all I can have. Yeah me too you know yeah I love it. I want to bring this book but it's heavy and I hate digital books. I don't enjoy them. But do I want to add 10 pounds to my bag? I know Bella's like the Kindle queen. You're right about like yeah, let's even go deeper on the bring a book, bring a paperback book or bring a Kindle.

Yeah. To lug around a big hardback. No, you don't want to do it. You're not going to want to do it. Okay. I think you're doing a nice job here. Solo. Oh my gosh. This is so good. Ask for tour guides on Tinder. I had the best time in Denver doing this. I mean, I can't recommend enough. I usually set my dating apps. Well, now I'm in Raya, so I just see the whole world. But I would usually set up. my dating apps to like where you're going to be and fucking meet people. Who cares? What is the best? Like I need a tour guide and like have someone to show you around. A girlfriend of mine was in Portland for work for like two nights and she went on Tinder and she was like asked him, we got to show around. They're married. Now they have a kid. Like, and you just never know. I love it. Um, you're doing a great job. Okay.

Book tickets in advance, like we said, hostels are super fun to stay at if you're single, want to party and are down to fuck. This is more about snacks. Never allow anyone to be hangary. Snacks everywhere. Uh, pre-poot toilet spray. your shits don't stink. Poopery, that's a good thing. And they have a little travel size. If things don't go exactly as planned, I just take a minute to breathe.

I mean, that's the thing too. I think, like, right now we're in the thick of this, like, really stressful travel time. Like, I'm already prepared for some shit to go down. And I just, like, I feel like you really have to mentally prepare yourself going in.

That's why I say managing expectations is so important because, like, I used to really go into special occasions and trips, like everything has to be perfect and you just can't. You have to lose that mindset. You have to go into a trip being, like, I'm lucky to travel.

I'm lucky to have the resources. If stuff goes wrong, I'll deal with it. So that's out of my control, flight delays, things like that. I'm going to do the best I can. I think some of it is, like, managing your own. Shit's always going to go wrong. Especially we're at the height of, like, all this travel stuff being just such like a travelmageddon.

And I have such an easy time now just, like, letting go pivoting. And that's why you got to plan ahead and know what's available to you. Because if one thing doesn't work out, you've got to be able to pivot. Yes. All right. I'm going to read two more because I love these. If you have TSA precheck and they don't leave them behind, perfect. And ask the locals.

hidden gem spots. They're almost always worth the extra walk. This is an amazing idea. Raina and I went to Paris and like we said, did not enjoy the trip. We did not plan ahead enough. We just didn't. And that's what it is. But the last night, we found this one place that we loved. And the bartender wrote us on a napkin a list of all the things we should have done. God damn it. I know. So it's really such a cool idea. And again, everybody likes to do different shit. But like if you go to a place like night one, you start talking to like a local, a bartender, maybe or even your server at a restaurant and be like, here's what I'm looking for. Get their tips.

Write down napkin, put it a note in your phone. I really do recommend it. That's probably back when I was more like I would get stuff from like trip advisor or I would get stuff just like on the internet randomly and yeah, ask the bartender. I love that tip. Pick three colors and try to match clothes with only those colors. All your outfits will match. Again, we said this last week.

This is a Lillian Charles hack that I love is like in the same color palette. It'll make it so much easier. Especially if you have a lot of clothes and you're excited about a trip and you're like, I want to bring all my favorites. Like, if you really limit yourself to like, I'm doing black, white, navy, and I'm staying in that color palette, it's so much easier to pack. Oh, my God. It took me three hours to pack.

Three hours. I'm in hell. I got to go home now. I got to keep packing. Do you want to finish this? Oh, there's more? Oh, my God. You guys have so many tips.

Yeah. You're doing great. Have a discussion about what kind of trip you want to have, relax, hiking, exploring beforehand. Of course, with your friends, know your role. Directions, plans, reservations, et cetera. Don't put it all on one person. I really do love that.

That's why I mean, actually, travel so well together. It's like if one person's taking care of something, like the other person's taken care of it. And like that is how we don't fight on trips. It's so true. Like you and I have like one of the best things about our relationship is this natural division of labor. But if you don't have that, if it doesn't come so naturally, then say it. Be like, I'm going to do this thing. You do this thing. You do this thing. You call the car. Like whatever it is. I can't take people that aren't like that. Remember we landed in Salt Lake City and we were like, we don't have a hotel for the day. What are we going to do? when we like jumped into action and found hotels.

Like, if you're not going to be like that, I can't be with you. Be okay with silence. You do not have to talk all the time. That's a good call. Like, don't feel like you have to fill the silence if you've been with somebody for a fucking week. Make a Google driver doc with all your plans and travel documents. You can share it with everyone going.

Listen, I did not used to be this person and somehow I'm this person now. I have the Google Doc for Mika knows. I got everyone's flight number and landing time. I'm booking the airport pickup for everyone. I cannot believe the person I have turned into. But it's, but it's. It's very, very, very, like, predominantly important to you that you have plans. It's the most important thing for you.

I mean, for me, Gnos, you have to. That would be such a mistake to go and be like, let's wing it, you know? So, and then someone says establish a poop schedule. Right. Do you want to speak on this? Like, you just have a lot to say about poop. I just, I poop a lot. I don't care.

I pooped right before you. You guys were in this office. Of course. I poop all the time. I don't care. Bella is shocked. I turn the water on and poop. I don't care.

I cannot believe this. Rain and I stayed in that hotel room in Paris. We were sharing a bed, nightmare, and the bathroom was, you could reach out and touch the door. And I pooped to their all the time. I don't care. You pooped when I went down the hallway to the gym to poop. I don't care.

It's a part of life. I care so deeply. But I will say, like, it has been a minute since I've had a partner and travel with them, and it does hit different. When I'm with friends and you guys, like, I don't care. It is a little different. I don't want some of that I'm. fucking to hear me poop.

Okay, bitch, that's what's me doing you. I don't want it. It's so bad. It's just like, there can be a couple things that are sacred. Listen, if you're one of those couples that just like takes a duke with the door open, I don't get it. Good for you. My ex was like, he told me that his ex used to just take a shit butt naked, door open. I don't get it.

That's crazy behavior. It's wild. I don't like when anybody leaves the door open to pee. Ashley? But I don't like it. Take your shit in the lobby. I'm not trying to smell your poo. I don't like it. I don't think it's, like, funny.

I don't think, like, poops and farts are funny. No, we don't want it before. That's not the kind of relationship. Okay, we're just going to go through a couple quick stories. We're going to do the shortest ones. Okay. That are just kind of are, like, funny. I'll start.

You want to start. Fucked in the ocean while on vacay in Hawaii, looked in the water where he pulled out afterwards because I was curious and saw a fish swim up and gulp his jizz down. I will never recover from this visual. And that's why we had to read it. you guys, so you have to live with this. I'm going to act.

To look down oh my God. And see your man's come and a fish just grabs it. Oh my God. Should we cut this? No, no, keep it in. Have you ever, okay, two-part question, have you been to a nude beach?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm thinking even love Barcelona. Like, I remember Ellen and I just seen this guy's dick. Okay. And have you fucked like at, like, you go into the water and new beach? Well, you know I talked in the ocean on that family vacation. Okay, murkier water though.

You're not like, can see. Dewey Beach. I mean, I think I've told the story, but I got so blackout drunk at Suicide Sunday. This was when Matt turned 21. So when Matt turned 21, Family Beach Week and Dewey,

I don't know what got into me. I was so excited. I was treated like it was my 21st. So I was 25. The night of his birthday, I threw up like on his girlfriend. Like, it was a mess. Okay.

I was just going crazy. But the Sunday of that trip, I met this guy at the starboard, this firefighter. and brought him back to the family house. And somewhere along the way, I lost my cover up in a bush. So I was in a bikini. You know I've heard this story.

I never knew you were in a bikini. I was in just straight bikini because we would wake up at first suicide Sunday, put on a bikini, no one, we were never going to hit the ocean. That's what you did. You'd put on your bathing suit and you put on something over it. On this particular day, I was wearing just a cover up. I lost it in a bush and show up with this stranger to my family's house, maybe 6 p.m. 6 p.m.

Daylight bikini. here's a stranger. And my dad and my... Your parents are so tolerant. My dad and my brother were like, what the fuck? And I felt the energy. And I was like, we got to go. So then we go.

And then we start fucking in this lake, Silver Lake and Dewey. This is not my finest moment. I can't believe I didn't get an infection from this. There's a sign that says no trespassing. This man comes out. He starts yelling us. So he pulled up his swim trunks and we

high tail it to go in the ocean. And so we're literally fucking in the ocean. And I hear, Ashley, it's my mom. she's on the water, like, at the coastline, and she's like, can you imagine? And she's like, we're going to dinner! And she was like, I'm going to leave you the key right here.

I can't believe my mom even trusted me to leave a key in the sand as I'm naked. And I was like, okay, bye! I didn't know this part of the story. And so then they go to dinner. He and I come back to the house, alone in the house. We fuck in the outdoor shower. This is crazy. Insane.

And then Corey fucked his friend. And so the next morning, Corey ends up going to, brunch with the firefighter that I fucked and I didn't go. I was hung over. I was like, I never want to see that guy again in my life. I'm embarrassed. He goes, your friend's crazy to Corey. He was like, your friend's fucking insane. He's like, she brought me back to her house. Her brother's the biggest person I've ever seen. I tell people about you. You think that it's the craziest experience this guy's life? The whole time he saves lives for a living. He runs into burning buildings for a living and

he was like, that was the scariest time of my life probably was that. penetrating you and your mom is yelling your name. I thought I was going to blow you away with this story. I was going to tell you I fucked in St. Martin just on the beach in front of people at a nude beach. I love that. Clearwater. Okay. That's a lot.

Really see through clear water. Yeah, you can fuck in the ocean on the Delaware coast. No one's going to know about it. Absolutely, 100%. But no, you out did my little story. Okay. We'll read a couple short ones. This is crazy.

She said, listen, you said you wanted brevity. So here it goes. My best friend fully shit her pants in the Taj Mahal. and proceeded to sit her bare ass down on an eastern toilet to take care of the rest. I was there with her and can testify further. RIP to those white, flowy, culturally appropriate pants. Shit yourself with the Taj Mahal. What?

I don't even know. There's no easy exit from there. There's like hundreds of people everywhere. That is crazy. Okay, read the next one because this one, you're going to feel this one on a deep level. My cousin's family took her boyfriend on an island hopping trip to Hawaii, and he lost his passport halfway through. She was so annoyed.

That dated him. She was so annoyed, broke over with him that day, sent him alone with her dad the entire day to the consulate to get the paperwork. Can you imagine you're like, dad, can you deal with this? She's like, I'm done with him. He's a fucking mess. Dad, take him to the consulate. She's like a queen. How old do you think she is?

I don't know. I'm like, because she's on the trip with her dad. Like, it would take me decades. It's a family trip. Pass the family trip. It's so funny to like be on a family trip. I was on a family trip with my ex. And I remember that he and I were fighting.

We were outside the house. We were outside the beach house. and my mom heard us and she steps out at the front porch. She's like, everything okay? Like, she got all up in our business because she hated seeing this fight. And she came in and like put her nose in our business and was like, what's going on here? And felt like she had a problem solved. But then, you know, I did that for her when her and my dad were fighting on the street at the night of Matt's rehearsal dinner.

That was, when watching Ashley mediate this fight was so funny. My mom got very drunk at the rehearsal dinner. And she started crying on the way home. She thought my dad didn't what pay attention to her. I thought something like really bad happened. I was like, are they going to get a divorce? And it was, he just wasn't like paying up to touch the one. She was being a drunk drama queen and I had to go out and mediate this fight.

It was so funny. And they don't like fight. It was wild. Okay, this last one just really hits different for the three of us in the room, Bella. So she says, my cousin had her bachelor at Trip in Cabo. We obviously had to get tested for COVID to come back in the States. Our doctor did our test and he was hot. We got his info, his friends, and him met us at the club.

that night and came back to our house that night to be our strippers. Literally, wildest time of my life. Love you all so much. Nothing is more on brand for us. COVID tests. The doctor and his friends come strip later. I love they had a theme.

Do you think they wear their doctor coat? Absolutely. I'd be so pissed if they didn't wear their doctor's coat. It's like, what else are they wearing? He's like, let me give you your PCR. Me like strips on you. It's like, it's time for a checkup. It's time for a nasal swab.

That is so funny. for this girl. I loved it. Okay guys, well, hope you liked our travel episode. Yeah. I hope you enjoy all of your travel this summer. I hope you had unfollowed me at. I'm going to be really insufferable on this trip. It's unbelievable. But yeah, get out there, take some trips. This will come out. This will be out after Mekino. So the insufferability. If you're reading this, it's too late. You know, I know that you know that you call me. Wait, do you remember the girl made the sign and you didn't realize it was if you...

Here's why. Because I'm so old that the Drake, if you're reading this is too late, like, I forgot that that was this album cover or whatever. I thought of old school in old school when they put the note on the door that says if you're reading this, you already know or something.

The locks the doors. The locks the doors. But what I'm referencing is this is going to be so old now that this person did an impression of Drake singing on TikTok. Drake put it on his story. and it's like the best thing. He's like, you know that I know that she knows

that we know that you called on the phone and I know that you know. And Drake reposted and said, I do be saying stuff though. Okay. That's fine. Well, thank you guys for listening. Hopefully you're still following us

after our Minkanos trip. And again, safe travels. Have fun out there. And of course, you guys can see everything you need to know about Girls Got to Eat at Girls Got to Eat Podcast.com. Girls Got to Eat Podcast.

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