Girls Gotta Eat - Love, But Don't Touch feat. Kelly Chase of Love is Blind

Episode Date: March 30, 2020

We finally have our long-awaited guest from Netflix's Love Is Blind -- Kelly Chase! We chat with her about how she got on the show, what it was like to date someone she couldn't see, her decisions regarding sex, and what really went down with her and Kenny after filming ended (you might be surprised!). We're also discussing non-show topics like orgasms (and lack thereof), sexual manifestation, and more. AND we're introducing another hilarious pandemic-related segment about the depths of the Internet we've all reached during quarantine. Enjoy and stay the f*ck home! Follow Kelly on Instagram @ChaseLifeWithKelly. Follow us @GirlsGottaEatPodcast, Rayna @Rayna.Greenberg, and Ashley @AshHess. Check our website for tour dates and merchandise. Thank you to our partners for this episode: The Pill Club: Go to thepillclub.com/gge to get your first birth control care package. Billie: Go now to save 10% off your first razor at mybillie.com/gge. LiquidIV: Get 25% off at liquidiv.com with code GGE. Native: Get 20% off your first purchase at nativedeodorant.com/gge. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

And I've dated blonde guys in the past. Like, it's just so funny. He had big blonde energy. Yeah. Big blonde energy. You're like, I can tell you don't have black facial scruff. I can fucking tell through this wall. Kenny.

Welcome back to another episode of Girls Gotta Eat. Pandemic week two. We are starting true to form an hour later than we said we were going to start. You guys, nothing has changed. I've changed. I work out now. You look great today. I love your high.

I miss you. Yeah, that's what it is. You miss me because I do not look. I literally just said, what? I think I'm going straight pony for all Zooms. It just does something for my face that I like. I had three Zooms last night. It's such a flex, okay?

The amount of times you told me three Zoom meetings last night. I was exhausted and I woke up with a hangover. Because you get so fucked up. It is a lot of pressure. I was wasted. I looked at one of my girlfriends last night. I did for, I had like the girl. girls, that whole group from Mexico on the first one, I had Rob and some people on the second

one and all my college girlfriends in the third one. And my college girlfriends fucking drink. They all have kids. I look down my friend in the corner, she was chugging her wine. One girl had the wine bottle next to her. Like, they were going so hard on the Zoom. I was like, are y'all okay? We zoom from like 845 to 11. Okay, two things. First of all, your college girlfriends go harder than anybody that I've ever met. Your friend that we went out with in Charles, and not ages to 2 us and her. She drank a whole bottle of wine before I even had one glass of wine.

I was like, bitch, you crazy. I had a date that night. And I was like, I can't even keep up. It's so funny because I went to college with her. I've known her for so many years. It doesn't faze me that she orders a bottle of wine for herself at dinner for a pregame. But these Zoom meetings are a lot of pressure.

I fully blacked out two nights ago. I had just had like back-to-back Zoom calls. And I was just, I was inviting new people to the Zoom call. Like, when that new person came in, I just said goodbye to the other person. I love that you said that because last night I was on the wall with Rob and like some dudes, some of his dude friends and Ellen. And I go, guys, I'm sorry.

I got to go. And they go, what the fuck? I said, I got another one of these. They were like, are you kidding me? I was like, it started 20 minutes ago. I'm already late. You know that this is like the craziest thing. Like every time somebody doesn't text you back now, you're like, what are you doing?

This is the only viable excuse in March 2020 for not texting somebody back. Somebody that's got in texting back the other day and I sent him a text and said, it's been five minutes. I know you're not busy. I have been so reckless. That is so crazy. I know you're not busy, bitch. The only acceptable excuse is I'm on a Zoom call.

Yeah. That's it. I got a Zoom happy hour. And it's funny because you guys have, I'm sure you guys have seen the memes of that Zoom started the coronavirus, which at the end of this episode that we're so excited about, we are doing a segment where you guys, we go through all of the deep dives

and the depths of the internet you guys have reached. And that one was on there a lot of like Zoom started the coronavirus. I think it's a joke. But I mean, if you had stock in Zoom pre-Corona, I mean, you're rich, bitch. You know, I said, did I say last year? You're going to say this week that Netflix started.

I think Netflix started the coronavirus too. Never been more popular. You want to enter our episode while you mentioned it? Yeah, I have to tell you something. Okay. So this week, I'm So am, Ashley and her so excited. We have somebody from Love is Blind. We have Kelly Chase, who's one of the couples that made it to the end, made it to the altar.

So we have her on a great episode. We are deep diving in Love is Blind. Yeah, guys, just we assume most of you watched it. If you haven't, I still think you're really going to find it interesting. Like, we really are talking a lot about the show and her experience. But then there's a twist on kind of like what really happened between her and Kenny. And then we're getting into it on a lot of sex stuff unrelated to the show. about sex and orgasms and how trauma from your sexual past

translates into your present and all this stuff. And it's such a great episode we already recorded with her. And she's so wonderful. And so hopefully you guys, if you watch the show, you're going to love it. But I hope you listen even if you aren't familiar with the show. And if you haven't watched the show, you're fucking missed out. But love your truth. I mean, it's not like you guys have anything but time.

Watch the show. Right. You're the ultimate shamer of people not doing anything. That is so funny. Someone doesn't text you. If you don't see those bubbles immediately, what the fuck are you doing? This is my dream, because you know how much attention I like. This is my dream to have every person literally have nothing to do besides talk to me.

And also there's this thing called Netflix party where you can actually, it'll sync up your computers. You can watch it with somebody else. But these girls were doing it. These girls, they tagged us like a few of the girls from the group. They were all watching. I think they were all watching. He's just nothing into you, which I hate that movie.

It was such a bad rendition of the book. Don't get me fucking started. But they were watching some movie, which is really cute. And they all were like friends from girls got eat. and they were doing the Netflix watch party and they tagged us in stories. It was so cute. I'm sorry, I can't remember the movie.

Is it Valentine's Day? No, it was a movie I'd seen. I think it might have been, he's just nothing into you, which we'll deep dive in that a different day. We have nothing but time. Well, they were pushing both of those, so I thought it might be the other one.

I love when our girls become friends with each other. It, like, breaks my heart with happiness. Okay, but I have to tell you, I know that we on this podcast are a pro-Jessica family. I know that we're Team Jessica. I had a moment where I wavered to Jessica. And I rewatch Love is Blind. I watched it with Jeremy the other day,

Netflix party. And Jeremy was like, this is stupid. I don't want to watch us. Five minutes in. He's like, I'm hooked. So I rewatched it.

And I was like, okay, like I'm wavering on Jessica. I'm sort of annoyed about this whole thing. Why didn't she just leave the show? If she didn't like this guy, whatever, it's not like a spoiler or whatever. She's a character on the show.

But now I'm even more team Jessica. So you watch a show the first time for context. It's very deep. And then you watch it the second time for like details that you missed. And you missed a couple of the pod episode. when we watched in Australia. You fell asleep that one time. Jeremy was like, have you seen that show?

I was like, listen, I saw part of the show. I've seen the whole show watching her with this guy. I mean, if you guys don't know we're talking about it's a couple and she's dating somebody who's 10 years younger than her. Which, you know, I don't know that it's advisable to marry a person 10 years younger and you depends on the age difference. But I mean, I don't, you know, I don't hate it. That's on brand for me.

X of your bodies. But like watching how she tried to manage this story. I'm, she's on national television. She's not going to walk off the show. And she was like, we have to have kids next week. He's like, cool. She's like, I'll say you can't love your mom anymore. He's like, that's cool.

And she's like, what about when I'm 50 or 40? And he's like, that's fine. And she's like, bar not sexy. And he's like, okay. And then she's like, watch me feed my dog some wine. She tried everything in the book to make this guy leave. And he just stuck it out. And it's like, listen, if you are willing to accept that for a person,

that's on you. That is clearly a person does not want to be with you is give you every single in the world. You should man up and leave. Yeah, he just, he committed. He fell for her hard and he didn't care what was coming out of her mouth. He could not pick up on the fact that she was trying to push him away. It was like the more she pulled away, the more he pushed.

Like it was the most push and pull situation I've witnessed on TV. She was like, you can't love your mom anymore? And he's like, I'm sorry. I didn't need to love her so much. I mean, it's like apologizing for how much he loves his mom. And yeah, I still, Team Jessica, though, she tried. No, I'm saying. I'm even more Team Jessica.

I think that she was like, I'm in a situation where, like, I could end up marrying. Some of these couples are still married, by the way. So she's like, I'm in a situation where I can marry this person. I'm putting every card on the table. I'm going to tell you every terrible scenario that could play out. She's 34. She's like, I do want to have kids tomorrow. Yeah.

But her goal was that he was going to say, oh, you know what? You're right. And then she would have an out, clearly. Right. Yeah, of course. Whatever. We know. Whatever. Team Jessica. I'm team to Jessica. I think she was in a situation on national television. She did not mean to get into it. And she was just trying to manage it like a normal person. She did. I think she did whatever. Most every other woman would do. People need to get off their high horse that they wouldn't have handled it that way. Yeah, you fucking would have. But anyway, I want to talk about what else we've been watching. But before we really get into it, I do want to say we all know what's happening in the world right now. We feel responsibilities on so many different levels. One of them, being to provide you guys with comedic relief throughout this whole thing. So it's been a little bit of

a battle because Raina and I, you know, talk every single day about the severity of the situation and how serious this is for our world. And it's really heartbreaking. Raina can talk about New York a little bit more, but everybody should know what's going on in New York at this point. It's apocalyptic. It's really terrifying. What's happening in the hospitals is horrifying. And I, you know, I know it's hard to watch the news all day long, but I hope that you guys are staying informed with reputable news sources. like CNN, like the New York Times, like the Washington Post, like Vox, the Atlantic, whatever it may be. And, you know, listening to the facts and the logic and the statistics.

And we just, we're going to make jokes. We're going to continue to make jokes for as long as we can. And I just, we want you guys to realize that we're treating this whole situation with the respect that it deserves. And we're not going to talk about a bunch of doomsday stuff on these episodes because you get it enough elsewhere. And so we're still trying to be a break from, from all the terrible stuff that's happening.

So we've done some charitable stuff. We're working on more. We feel right now that getting the hospital workers, the PPE they need, and anything we can do on that front is top priority. But we have other things in the works down the road. That's just kind of what we're honing in on right now. We've both done different stuff.

It's been on our Instagrams and things like that. And we're still working on what we can do. Raina has a couple charities. She wants to mention as well. But just got to say it up top, probably on every episode. and while this lasts is like it's real serious. We're here to make you guys laugh,

but also offer perspective and we're treating it with the seriousness it deserves. Yeah. And, you know, I see a lot of, I see a lot of news and, you know, I try to have a good day every day. I think it's okay to have bad days also. I think it's perfectly fine to feel shitty and have bad days. And, you know, I chose to stay in New York.

I made a decision with my family that it's probably just not safe for me to go there right now. I have elderly parents and I didn't want to put them in a situation where I had like bullied them into making a decision because they're worried about their daughter and then possibly infecting them. And, you know, we we know people very close to us who have been affected by this. Somebody who had known for years passed away this week. I mean, it is very serious. It is very real. The situation in New York is very, very serious. And I know that our president is saying that we should reopen the country. We should send people into churches in April on Easter.

nothing could be farther from the truth, guys. What is happening in New York will happen in every single city. And I don't want to be like a June's day person. I think that so many people have stepped up to do the right thing, to stay at home, to be safe, to donate money. But what is happening in New York is truly terrifying and that hospital system risks collapsing. And that will continue to happen in every city.

And my brother's in Chicago and even he said to me, you know, there's still people playing basketball on basketball courts. There's people that are out in parks together. And it's just as serious as you think it is, if not way more. And what happened here can happen in any city. And it's really frightening. And it's frightening to May to have a president that says, you know, I will cooperate with the governors that are nice to me. It's terrifying. That is not America. It's just not. And bribery to be nice. I can't, don't get me fucking started. But like this isn't about that we don't like Trump.

Of course we don't like Trump. He's just lying. He's just full of lies. Him and everybody at Fox News that treated this without the seriousness it deserved and acted like it was a hoax at any point has blood on their hands. I am so fucking furious. And these news channels organizations are trying to decide if they can even air him because it's killing people. Yes. It is very frightening. This idea that is not that big of a deal.

I heard the President of the United States say that this is just as deadly as car crashes. You can't catch a car crash. So again, I don't want every episode to be like us yelling at you, but this is incredibly terrifying. They turned the Javitt Center in New York City into a triage center. It's the biggest convention center in New York City. I've gone to food shows there. I've gone to all kinds of

fun things there. They're putting a thousand hospital beds there. Governor Cuomo is on the news every day. If you guys want to really learn from somebody, I think that- And masturbate to somebody. Ashley calls him Daddy. She texts me every morning. Daddy's on TV.

Daddy Cuomo, I can't. Clearly now there's this big call for him for president, but he's a true leader. He has stepped up in the face of this with facts, figures, logic, compassion, creativity, and I can't get enough of him. He is like what, everything we need right now in terms of a leader. Yes.

Listen, it terrifies me that the president of the United States says that he could potentially withhold support from governors that aren't nice to him. But on the bright side, there are a lot of celebrities and private companies showing up and really doing the right thing. Rihanna is donating millions of dollars. Ralph Lauren is donating millions of dollars. Kylie Jenner, Prada is donating all their factories to make masks. Joanne Fabrics is donating supplies if you guys want to make your own masks. So I think it's really beautiful. I also read that the TV shows, Grace's Anatomy and the Good Doctor.

are donating the supplies and the props from their sets to hospitals. Yeah. So there is a lot of good in the world. Hotels are donating their spaces. People really, I mean, I just feel better that at least private companies are stepping up to give us the help we need. But there is so much more help that we need. And, you know, last week we talked about animal rescue funds and donating blood, which, of course, important. And restaurant relief.

But I wanted to just highlight a couple charities. We're doing great stuff for the healthcare industry. So direct relief.org is great. They provide personal protective equipment and essential medical items for people who are battling coronavirus in the hospitals right now. The Center for Disease Philanthropy is fantastic. Bethany Frankel's organization, Be Strong. And then, of course, the stuff that you guys can do, do not buy things that you do not need. Do not hoard things.

Stay inside. You guys can send food to hospitals. You can donate blood. Remember, there's tons of people in hospitals that still need other medical care. So donate stuff. And just remember, there's a lot of other people that are lonely. I need your support. So pick up the phone, text your friends, text medical workers,

and just tell people that you're proud of them and you support them. And you know, you're there for them. Yeah, they're on the front lines. One of our listeners messaged me and she was like, we're doing this GoFundMe for just to get lunches and dinners in the hospital. They work at New York Prez, which is one of the biggest hospitals in New York. They're in the ICU and they set up this GoFund Me. And I obviously donated and then put it on my Instagram story.

And they met their goal in 10 minutes. So thank you guys who have seen the stuff we posted. that I was like anybody to donate $5. Like they were only asking for $2,000. And then in an hour, it was $3,000. And an hour is 4,000. It's just like you guys have all stepped up too. And it's just like I can't donate and share everything people send me.

But like the most that I can, I will. And to me, I'm just like, what do you need? You work in the hospital. What can we do? What do you need? Tell me what you need. I wish I could be here on this fucking farm assembling masks all day every day. You know what I mean?

Like I just think that people are able to get that stuff to these hospitals are the true champions right now. And I love that you mention all those people that are doing it. It's a beautiful thing. I'm just out of your sending pizzas. No, I mean, I think that what you've done, I think one of the most beautiful, I mean, it's two birds, one stone. You can support a local restaurant, and you can also support hospital workers that just

need, like, a little bit of help. And, you know, I think that we forget sometimes those people also are getting sick, and they need help. And they're going home to their families. And I saw a couple hospitals in New York that are donating their spaces so that people who are treating patients with the coronavirus can stay there and not go infect their families. But people need so much. And I'm with you.

I wish I could give every single person the money they need. I cannot believe what has happened in New York City. This is my home. This is my home for 13 years. I don't love any place in the world more. I've done the research. This is my favorite place on earth. To walk around and see every single place boarded up, every single business completely shut, closed,

out of business. And all of our friends who have lost all their clients and their businesses, this will happen in every single city. we don't do something. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's our Corona Soapbox for the day. Help where you can. Stay tuned. We'll be doing more and more. I got to say really quick. I just want I know everybody wants to know we're watching. This is a Netflix themed episode. What are you watching? Okay. My two, my two favorite things I've watched this week, obviously Tiger King, which has swept the nation. It is the new love is blind. I have some thoughts, but keep going. It has everything. It's everything. It's murder and cult and Polly Amory and gay people. And she killed her husband. Don't come from me. She definitely put him in a meat grinder, okay? It is, it is insane.

It's like people with all these big cats and tigers, there's crime. It's murder. It's everything I've ever wanted. Every episode is like, how are they going to chop this episode? And then some guy is fucking 17 people to work for him. It's just every episode's amazing. Whoa. Okay.

So I was so amped to watch it. I've only watched the first episode. I don't know. It's my mom that can't watch it anymore. The animal stuff, you know, my parents are vegetarian. and like they're these super animal activists. Like she can't watch the captivity part of it. It's just she can't get past it.

It's horrible. People that keep that, that, uh, breed like take these big cats and stuff like that. So she can't really get past it. So I'm on my own now. Um, so I'm trying to figure out like where to watch it. I think I'm going to get it.

You know, I stay in the other house. So one of the homes on your property. Yeah, there's, but there's no TV there. It's not that ball in. So I'm trying, I might order a TV, get my own cable over there.

But I, um, you're right. That's what everybody says. like the show, like, just when you think it can't get any crazier, it does. So I think I'm going to keep trying to continue it. I don't know. I've seen most people like it. I have seen mixed reviews. And I'm sure that's part of it. That like you can't get past the fact that these fucking people have tigers in their

backyards. Disgusting. If you guys, I didn't mention what this was. It's about all these like wildlife parks in the United States and the people who own all these like lagers, lagers. Liger. A liger is a thing. But lions, tigers, and bears.

And these people in like, all these cities that basically have all these things for display, like a zoo. It is pretty horrible. But it gets better. The first episode is like a little slower. Okay. I'm going to do it. Yeah.

And they're not abusing them. So it's like a few people have texted me. Are they, the tigers get abused. I'm like, no, they love the tigers to almost in a weird amount. There's no abuse, but it's just straight up captivity. I mean, I hate zoos too. So whatever. It's not so much about the zoos as.

much is just about how fucking crazy all these people are. All these people that just have gone out and bought 180 lagers and how wild they are. But it's great. And then my second recommendation is Tom Segorah's new special ball ha. Ashley and I both saw this. You and I both saw it during you. It's the material from the show we went to. Oh, awesome. And it's fantastic. And I DMed him last night to tell him how great it was. And then he DM me back. So it was one of the best days ever. Well, listen to you. And you got a DM back from Bethany Frankel. It's what it is.

It's somehow in a celebrity week. But yeah, I mean, I met Tom after that show. Tom. Which is why. First name basis. We follow each other on Instagram. It's fine. Anyways, you have Rex that I have not watched.

Yeah. My main one is Little Fires Everywhere. So this is brand new. It's on Hulu. At this point, there are four episodes out. So what they did was they released the first three. And then now they're, week to week, which it's like, Hulu, read the room.

Give us the whole fucking series. Like, what are we doing? This is not fair. And so, if you're listening, anyone from Hulu, but it is, it's a Reese Wether Spoon production. I know there's other people on the team, but I'm a big fan, whether you like Reese Wetherspoon or not as an actress or her character she plays. She has done amazing things for women in entertainment. So, you know, if you watch that documentary I recommended before, this changes everything.

She was one of those women in Hollywood that was like, we're not getting the parts, we're not getting the jobs. I'm going to take this into my own hands. She has her production company. She has her book club, all her things, big little lies. We're all familiar. I wouldn't say similar storyline, but her character is similar. And I feel like if you like big little lies, you will like this more. It's based on a book.

I haven't read the book. My mom said it's so close to the book. She said it's one of the best that she's seen in terms of how closely it's following the book. Carrie Washington is the co-star. It's absolutely incredible. I hate that I have to wait now at this point four more days for the next episode. I cannot recommend it enough. It has so much going on.

I'm so excited for you to watch it. And again, like heavy on the woman cast because that's what Reese does. And her husband is Josh Jackson, who makes me feel fucking old. Like Joshua Jackson. Oh my God. Yeah. So he's her husband. Josh Jackson.

Who does what the fuck that is? Really? Oh, God. I like to call him Josh. Casey's on the show. Casey's on the show. There's a scene. He is wearing these little tiny whiteies.

And it's a full dick outline. Like, it is, I slow mode it with my mom. I was like, hold on. See, this is the other reason I didn't go to Pittsburgh. My mom and I would never do some shit like that. I actually was like, okay, primarily do not want to get my parents sick, but secondarily and almost as important. I started thinking about what Netflix shows we can watch together.

My mom's just, she ain't like your mom, you know? Oh, I know. But also shout out to my mom today. her birthday and also just shout out to all the Aries, to all you guys that aren't getting able to celebrate your birthday or even really hug a lot of people. And so shout out to all you guys that have birthdays doing that during this, I feel for you. People that had to cancel their weddings and all their parties and stuff. Some of them. Here's a good segue way to rescheduled things. Live show update. Yep. So guys, you know, we rescheduled Texas, Philly,

and Florida to the fall. You guys have asked about, you've emailed us about questions. Always just contact the venue. We have no control over ticketing whatsoever, just like any artist. So if you've tickets to anything, just contact the venue.

They'll help you manage the tickets. All tickets except for two shows, which I'll mention have been transferred to the new dates. And those dates are in the fall. They're on our website. But you can absolutely contact the venue if you've questions about those tickets. The two exceptions are Orlando has been fully refunded.

So if you want to buy tickets, just re-buy them. They're on our website. They're on Orlando Improfts website. And then also Houston, we were doing two shows. We may or may not do two, but for now, we just have one show rescheduled. So the March 25th tickets have been fully refunded, March 26th have been transferred. So there will be people who drop out of these shows, and you'll probably have the opportunity to buy the tickets. But that is the update on all that. Did they miss him? Yeah. I think that's right. I mean, again, guys, like we're doing the absolute best that we can. We're don't know what's going to happen. Nobody knows what's going to happen. The virus is in charge now.

So we did our best to work out those Texas states. Those were the first ones that we had to prioritize with the rescheduling. So we weren't able to do the Houston shows. We still think that with the amount of people that bought tickets, it will all fit into one show. If it doesn't, we'll readdress at that time. But we did our best. We're doing our best. I promise you, we talk about the shit all day, every day. And we are rescheduling San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Vancouver. This is like so hard for us to, we just never thought this. We're sad for us, for you and for the world that it's come to this. We never thought, you know, two weeks ago when we had to reschedule Texas that we would have to be rescheduling San Francisco, Portland,

Seattle, and Vancouver. So I'm getting emotional not because like we don't get to do our shows, but just of like, I can't believe the world's probably still going to be at a standstill at that time. Everybody, every other performer canceled there May early June. We're no different. we knew we needed to cancel it and get better dates so we can actually see you guys this year. So we're working on it. So please don't message us because we don't have an answer for you.

But if you were coming to one of those four shows, they will be rescheduled and we're working on it and we're trying to get it done as soon as we can. And we'll give you guys updates everywhere we can and next week if we have it. Yeah. And obviously guys, every performer in the world is dealing with this, every ticketing system in the world,

every agent, every manager. So we're doing everything we can. I know it's a disaster. So just be patient with us. But, you know, it's, it's one of my life's greatest joys that we get to do this. And we get to meet our fans. And it's such an honor every time you guys tell us, how special it is for you. And it will always be one of my life's greatest joys that we get to do this.

So we will reschedule it. And, you know, when this is over and we're when we can get back to you guys. So I'm excited to do it all again in the fall, hopefully. Yeah. And we are recording this on a Friday as of right now. Tomorrow, Saturday night, we are going live on Instagram to kind of make up for our Texas shows being canceled. And that is the plan from here and out. So every time we should have had a show, we're going to go live on Instagram and do something fun. So we just will have done it on Saturday

night. If you're listening to this on Monday or whenever, we will be doing it for Philly, the April 18th, 19th. We'll let you guys know. We will be doing it when we should have been in Florida. So this is just kind of something we're trying to do for you guys that we're supposed to come to the shows and obviously for all you guys. So that's what we're able to do right now. But we're going to put some time, we're putting time and effort into it and making it really a fun thing. So it'll be on Girls Got to Eat. We did a countdown. This last one, we'll let you guys know. But if you were, if you know when the show dates were, then look for us on the live. And then also a new content alert. The YouTube is, it should be live this week.

It should be live. I don't know. Guys, we are trying so hard. We've had to deal with four different videographers. We've been trying to put clips up. We wanted to launch it with at least four to five videos for you guys. What is, do we know the URL, right? Is it just? I mean, it's just, I mean, I don't know the actual URL, but I mean, just look up girls got any podcasts on YouTube. That's what is. I mean, there are a million clips of you and me on YouTube right now, but this is our channel. There's just, I mean, I didn't actually know this. There's a lot more that goes into like a great YouTube channel than just like, here's some fucking videos, you know? So we've been working with designers, videographers. We want to make this great for you guys

because, you know what, times are fucking shitty and we want to make your life better. Yes. Yeah, you can just, you can throw videos up on YouTube right now. Take you five minutes, but we wanted to do it right. So hopefully, we said last week we lied but whatever we're going to do about it it's a pandemic so it was we've been putting a lot of time into it so we've this really fun trailer and some clips we've stasi we've Kendall we've just us so check it out and we'll be doing more yeah and this is a good way to mention I'm just I'm very fascinated by like how the world has changed so much in just a week like I think that we I think it's just beautiful the way that everybody has found a way to like connect with each other and you're talking about Instagram lives, which just made me think about it. But I just, I'm, I think that we're social creatures. We're not supposed to be alone. And I think the people, I mean, there's nothing in the world I want to do more than like get on a plane hug my parents. Like, I miss having dinner with my friends. I miss taking a walk with my friends. And I think it's really beautiful all the different ways that number one

people are finding to connect with each other, but also like explore their passions and share that with other people. And like everybody that you and I know that's like a fitness instructor is doing these live Instagrams and all these like Zoom happy hours and TikTok dance. and like one of our good girlfriends works in PR. She's an artist now. She bought all his paint. She's like abstract fucking painting on the internet. I just subscribe to Masterclass, which is cool.

They have all these experts in their field that will teach you how to do whatever you want. So there's stuff for comedy, architecture, all kinds of design, stuff like that. I'm just, I'm really amazed by what everybody has done to enrich their lives and connect with others. And also, by the way, you don't have to, you don't have to be a fitness instructor overnight either. Like, it's fine if you're not doing that either. certainly allowed to sit on your ass and eat goldfish crackers. I watch Tiger King. But I'm very moved, by the way, to people have connected it. It has helped me to stay emotionally healthy by having these Zoom calls every night, having these FaceTime, talk to my parents,

and just remind yourself that people love you and check in with people. So I'm just, I'm very moved by what's happening in the country right now. Yeah, I totally agree. You told me you wanted me to bring this up because I posted it on my Instagram about kind of the content that people are creating, a comedian that we love. His name is Tom Takar, T-H-A-K-K-A-R. He is a Comedy Central Special if you want to check it out. We love him. He posted this on his Facebook. He was just like, a lot of people are going to be trying new things and putting out content. A lot of it's going to be bad, but like you don't shit on these people. Like the same people that shit on people doing that or the people that shit on it outside of a pandemic. And the way he said it was so amazing.

He was like, those are the people that continue to do something medium good until they quit or something like that. Like it's the same haters all the time. And like, I just, I, I kind of piggybacked off of it. And I was like, try whatever you want. Go live on Instagram. Don't buy into these memes that shame people for going live. We love Jared Fried, but he's one of them. Like, it's all jokes. Everybody's going live. Do TikTok. Try these dances. Fucking do these stand-up shows. Like people were starting to shit. People were shitting on the stand-up Instagram live shows. I'm like, what else are you doing? There's no more clubs anymore. Like, people just want to hate and I think try whatever you want.

Now is the time. And just like Raina said, don't feel bad if you're not. Like there's two sides of this. Live your truth. We say it every episode. Don't have productivity, guilt.

If you see all these people doing these fun, creative things and you're not, who cares, it's fine. This is a very weird time. Same with moms. There's these like quarantine goals, moms who were like setting up schools

and stuff like that. I was with a girlfriend last night. She's an administrator. And she was like, if you have kids in elementary school, don't even worry about it. Just keep them alive. What do I?

It's like, these parents, some of them have gone above and beyond, try to be the best parent. And then it's making other parents feel the guilt. And it's like, just keep them safe, you know, keep them alive, do what you can. Like, she was so funny because she's like an amazing mother, former teacher, now administrator. And she's like, you don't need to do it. I was like, why? It's my same friend that drinks so much, of course.

She's drunk. She doesn't run. She was drunk. I take it back. No, but it's just like, don't shame people for not doing anything. Don't shame people for what they are doing. Try something, do something. It might suck.

The amount of people that have gotten to where they are today in terms of good content creation, put out a whole bunch of shitty shit before that. So I just think let people live. Do a home workout every day or don't. You know? Like, this is a time for us to be more accepting and nicer to each other and what other people are doing.

Like, if you're still out here being a hater, you should go first in the apocalypse with the toilet paper hoarders. You. Now's not the time to shame. I'm loving what I'm seeing. Everybody I know is suddenly a chef, all these at-home cooking videos.

I cannot get enough of these painting videos. I'm going to learn how to do Photoshop and InDesign. And it's just like, I'm going to document the whole day. Every day I've been like doing an update. I'm like, I just put one up. I was like, I don't know if anybody cares about this. Don't fucking watch it then. That is the beauty of the internet.

You guys don't like all this shit. Don't watch. Also, by the way, I'm still me. I do not want to be tagged in pushing up challenges. I don't want it. Okay? I haven't gotten completely soft. Don't tap.

This girl, she tags. me and you and this. The wine. Yeah. And she was like, she was like, this ends here. She was like, she tagged no one but me and you. And that was it.

I love that girl. Yeah, don't tag me push up challenges. She was doing like push up challenges and also drinking wine. That's why I was so funny. And it was like, this is me. People are like, take a sip. You guys have a sip. I'm like, I've been drunk since three o'clock every day.

Just trust it. Every single day, I've been completely drunk since 3 p.m. That's when I start drinking. I don't need to share a sip. I'm always sipping. I came through sipping. I have had wine every night. There's no days off.

I just, every time my dad pours the wine, I'm like, I literally think when you like work out like no days off, there's not been a day off. I'm fully like lubricated at all times. I know. I'm really enjoying you after an I p.m. lately.

Nothing bothers you. Ashley's like the most perfectionist person and I'm just not like even a little bit. So thank God that like she's my business partner because like nothing would ever get double checked ever. I'm really like an evening, Ashley. She's loose. I'm loose. I've been cooking dinner, drinking wine with the fam. I had to tell a story about my dad and then we can, we made me get the interview. Who knows? We just give this intro short, but what are you guys going to go? Well, you have a two and a half hour episode coming your way.

We're Joe Rogan now. Yeah, we're, we've gone rogue. And so my dad has taken a lot of these tips and advice that people are telling about like how to sanitize packages and stuff. the chance that you would get coronavirus from package is extremely low. I actually don't know if anybody has yet. Maybe at this point, I don't know if anybody has yet. So don't call me on that, but my dad is still taking all these precautions. So he's like with the box,

we're still getting packages and stuff. He's like, we got to wipe him down and then we got to like take out what's in them, wipe that down, throw the boxes out and they're recycling, whatever. And so I order these vibrators. This company reached out to me. They're called voodoo vibe. They're wonderful.

They reached out to me. They were like, we want to send you some vibrators. I was like, I'd rather purchase them to support your business. and the vibrators came. And I see the box, like, they see like the brown cardboard box

and it's in my dad's hands. And I see him start to wipe it down with like a chlorox wipe. So he's wiping the vibrator box down. And I'm like, oh my God. And then he gets the box cutter out. And he's like, we have to open this and wipe down the contents

and then throw the box out. And as he's going to open the box, I scream, no, do it. I got it. And he goes, he was like, what? And I was like, I got it. I'll do it. it. And he is so confused. He puts the box. I was actually helping. He puts the box outside of the

porch to get it out of the house because it's like contaminated. And I had to like go and like take the box, bring it over the farmhouse. And later he was like, did you clean the stuff off in that box? I'm like, yeah, dad. My fucking vibrators. In my mouth. I cleaned it with my mouth. I was so disappointed that your dad didn't open the box. I would like love to watch your mom laugh at this. It was such a close call because like an hour prior, I had another package come. It was two things of my face cream. He had opened it and wiped down the contents and put it on the porch for me to take back over to my house. Like it was, right, we were so close.

If I wasn't sitting there having like lunch at the time when the vibrators arrived, he would have done the same thing. Like that was his process. I mean, literally, I can't believe you didn't even think to get ahead of this. there is nothing to do besides open packages. I didn't know he was opening packages without his name on. I did not know he was going this far. What time of the day was it?

The vibrators came at like noonish. All right. So he wasn't drunk yet. No. He was on. You got to watch him before 3 p.m. Yes. He's on this package sanitation kick.

I can't even, they are, I ordered one and they sent me another one because they're so wonderful. So this package is two giant purple vibrators and a bottle of lobe. Like, can you imagine? him opening that. Yes, I can. I think about it every day now.

And I want to watch your parents make fun of you for ordering two dildos to their house. How many do you need? I feel like I have a drawer full of dildos. I use one. How many dildos? And you're just like sitting there squirting loom on your own vagina. And you got one of the two vibrators for. Dad, I have two holes.

One's from my B hole. I ordered one. One was a gift. Oh. All right. Love your dad. Yeah. I mean, I just, we were, it was just, I couldn't believe that's what he was doing.

He had the box cutter in one hand and I'm screaming. Oh, no! Don't do it. They're like, Ashley's never offered to help as much in her entire life. It's crazy. There's five writers everywhere. All right. Well, should we get into it with our guest?

Yes, guys. We are so excited to have our first, uh, 2020 Corona guest with us today. She is a health and empowerment coach, which I think we can all use today. She is the star of a show that swept the nation. Love is blind. Please welcome Kelly Chase to the show. Hello. We made it happen.

It only took us an hour. Yes. Kelly, do you feel like you're in the pods right now? If I couldn't see your faces, yes. I'm going to take the video off so you can feel right at home. in your isolation pod. I'm going to put this plant in front of me. Don't feel like you're there now?

I'm going to get down on one knee and propose. Yes. Well, we want to hear all about it, but I just have to intro. I've been friends with you for years. I mean, probably five, six, seven years. Probably like five years from Atlanta. Yeah. So, and it was so funny because we talked about this before,

but when I, when the show, I knew you were on the show. how I heard about it. And then when we're watching it, we started watching in Australia. And I just start going, oh, there's Kelly. Oh, there's this other person I know. And that's when we realized it was like an Atlanta show. And Raina was like, what the fuck?

Like, how do you know these people? So anyway, it was so fun to watch you. I'm just such a shitty New York. I'm like, I can't believe wasn't shot in New York. Why I wasn't shot in New York? I had actually like explained to me why they didn't shoot it in any. I was like, what about Chicago? What about San Francisco?

She really had explained me why Atlanta, why it's so great, how you guys all know each other. We're so excited to talk to you about the show, how you've got on the show. And obviously, like, as much behind-the-scenes stuff as you can tell us. Yeah, it's going to be great. So, but right now, you are single. Yes. Single, ready to mingle, fresh highlights.

You're looking amazing. 300, 400,000 Instagram followers in a week. Like, you're killing it. Yeah. But we want to, yeah, we want to ask you life since the show and stuff like that. But, yeah, I mean, I'd love just like a little bit of back. background info on, it's so funny. I have to say, I got a casting email today from the casting company that does Meredith First Site and Love is Blind, the same casting company, I'm sure

familiar just today. I got an email that was like, if you know anybody that would want to be on Meredith First Site, let us know. So some people don't realize that's kind of how it works. These casting people reach out and they're like, tell us people that might want to do this. Was that your experience? Yeah. So kind of. Well, this is a funny story because you know this first and Ashley's too. I don't know if I want to drop the name. But so how they reached out to me to cast for this show was my ex-boyfriend

originally, you know who. I think I haven't blocked. Your ex-boyfriend was like, I have somebody that I would like to get away from me, put her on this show. That's so rude. He's the worst. He's the worst. So.

So it was funny, you bringing up, like, maths at Meredith's site. So it was actually like, I think the first season of Meredith's site was filmed maybe like a year and a half after he and I had broke up. And I don't know. I mean, we were like, you know, acquaintances, like whatever after that point. Like no bad blood. But yeah, he like sent me a text and was like, hey, I submitted your information for a show. I can't do it because of work, but I think you'd be like, you know, good for it.

And I was like, I don't know if I should be like insulted. Like I can't find my own love or if this is like a... Insulted. No, just insulted. That is so funny. Like he was like, I think you should be on this show to get a husband. Right. I mean, and maybe he didn't know the whole like gist of the thing.

I don't know like how it was pitched to him. But when they, I mean, I actually did like kind of go through the process a little bit myself. But then I was like, no, I think my mom would love. literally, like, murder me before I made it, like, that far. Like, if I told her, like, hey, by the way, they're filming this show in the first episode, I'm walking down the aisle. Yeah. Like, I think she would, like, murder me. So, anyway, so I passed on that.

And so when they, they actually reached back out for obviously, love is blind, they were like, hey, we have a new concept. Are you still single? And I was like, yeah, I am. Thanks for bringing that up. I've been, like, nine years. You were like, you know what, the show or you get married on the first episode, not for me. But what I'm going to do is I am going to walk down the aisle.

I'm going to reject somebody at the altar. And then that's going to make my parents proud. She's just waiting for Instagram to come out so she could build that following and sell sugar bear hair care. No, Kelly's killing it. She's not fat and fun. So questions. We don't want to like dwell too much on this like reality TV show process. But one thing that I don't know that a lot of people know,

is that you guys filmed this in fall of 2018. Right. And then it aired, as we know, February 2020, which is insane to me. Rain and I both, we know a lot about TV and production and reality shows. And we've never heard of anything like that. I think it's super abnormal. I think it's crazy that you guys had to do that and then just like keep it a secret for a year.

I mean, do you have any insight into that and why? No, I don't. I mean, it's only an assumptions. I mean, of them editing. for so long and then obviously like I guess trying to get to fit themselves into Netflix's schedule. That's the only thing I can think of. But I mean, I have no idea how that all works. You guys had to like sign something. In case somebody like let's under a rock, like the importance of the show is to meet people on these pods, get together, walk down the aisle. And then some

people did stay together. And so people had to like keep their relationship totally private for like a year and a half. Yeah. Were you allowed to be photographed by other people on social media? Like, how do you control that? Because you dated somebody in the interim. You did date somebody, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yes, I did. I did date someone in between there. And I mean, and I even, I'm just such a vulnerable,

transparent person. I even talked about that relationship. I never posted a picture. I never shared a picture and I never said his name. So like, only my closest friends who knew that we were dating knew that I, you know, who it was, what I was talking about. But, yeah, it was like really hard.

Like, and I, I even, said that to him one time. I was like, hey, like, we're, like, we're pretty private anyways. But he even, like, I told him one day, I was like, I go, the reason why I haven't like shared any kind of picture is because of X, Y, and Z, you know, it was because of the show. And he was like, oh, yeah. I think that we had a friend that interviewed Mark recently, Kate Kennedy, we've had her on our podcast too. She interviewed Mark and she said that was a point of contention in his relationship that he had, A, just gone through like a broken engagement. age bit. I mean, and then

had a new girlfriend that he couldn't post on social and things like that. So I find that length of time incredibly fascinating. Yeah. Were you guys, like, when you went to like, I can't like stop thinking about it because if the show came out, I like immediately, of course, went to all your Instagrams. I'm like, I got to know

if they're still together. I was combing all of your Instagrams to find out. So like none of your friends took photos of you guys and tagged them either. Like of these couples that were together for like a year and a half, right? Right. Yeah. No. I don't think so. I mean, they,

because I was, I even, I mean, I even did it too, just like, because I was like, wow, these little like Instagram,

like, investigators are in there, like, zooming in on pictures and on Christmas trees, on the ornaments and like, all this crazy stuff. But my, my take on it is,

and correct me if I'm wrong, I mean, my take on it is that nobody knew the show was, no one knew anything. So no one was like spying on you guys. It wasn't the bachelor. Even if, right,

people were like, these people are from love, is blind, people would be like, we don't know what that show is. What is it? You know, like, it came out of nowhere. And did you even anticipate the success, virality of all of all of it? Like, did you ever see this coming? It's insane. It's truly, I've never seen anything like it. Yeah, no. No, I mean, obviously you want anyone's creation to be successful, but no, I had absolutely no idea that it was going to be like worldwide, like phenomenon kind of thing. And I mean, it may have helped.

I never watched an episode, but I mean, as far as like then, I'm not my show. I mean, love is blind. I watched all the episodes. But I mean, of this, the Bachelor, I mean, I didn't hear some, you know, I heard not so good reviews. So it was kind of like that was coming to an end. We were coming in right when that was kind of happening. So I feel like people like, I mean, there was like a hashtag out there like better than Bachelor. Like when love is blind.

I mean, it's been crazy. I feel like Ashley and I couldn't believe. We were like, our straight male friends are texting us. Like, they're watching the show and they can't believe how crazy this is. And I can't stop saying it. It's swept the nation. Every time somebody's like, I don't know if I should watch it. I'm like, it's swept the nation.

Yeah. That's the nation you've got to watch. Yeah, someone posted like, I saw a meme that was like, you know, no amount of like quarantine and isolation will make me watch love is blind. I'm like, that's your loss. Like, I feel bad for you. Quarantine sucks. Yeah.

It's an amazing show. Well, we want to, let's, I mean, of course, we want to get into the show. I mean, spoiler alert, whatever. Everybody's seen it at this point. But if you haven't, you're probably not even listening still at this point to this episode. But you made it till the very end. You made it to the weddings. And you were with somebody that you were engaged to.

And you said no with the altar. You guys broke up. So I don't know. Do you want to tell us a little bit about falling for somebody? in these pods and your story. Yeah. I like from the beginning also because I think it's very relevant right now

like dating somebody that you can't touch, which is something that we wanted to like talk about. Because so many people, I just mentioned touching Ashley's body. I just want to do it. I just feel like so many people are in these situations, it's very relevant. So like what is it like starting a relationship

with somebody you legitimately can't touch? Yeah. It was, I mean, we definitely had, obviously what they show on the episodes. We did have more time with everybody. So it wasn't like, you know, we... I mean, for me and Kenny, it looked like we connected over a children's book

and then like the next day we were engaged. So it was a little rushed. But, yeah, I mean, it was really neat how the pause and I kind of wish that they showed more of it, but because they would have taken you down into like all the connections. But it was interesting how you can... also judge a person by their voice.

Yeah. Or like a laugh or something. Like there were some people I was like, I literally can't buy with their voice. Like I don't think I could literally like listen to that all the time. No. Because they don't sound, because the sound of their voice or because like you tell like this is not like

an effervescent person. Yeah. The sound. No, it was like the sound of their voice, which sounds terrible, but it was true. Yeah, I think a lot of it like sound of,

voice, their tone, just all the things. Like you, you like, I mean, you, people get tricked. There's guys out there with like a hot voice and they're, they're not hot. And then there's these guys that like aren't hot, but their voice makes them hot. Right. You know? Yeah. So with Kenny, how many hours pre-proposal would you say you logged? I don't even know. Um, wait, it was how many days? Was it like, was it like a week or no? Yeah, it was like a week. Um, and the date, the dates got longer. So as I guess the process of elimination went through, you just,

the dates actually got longer. So I think the longest that we were maybe in a pod was like an hour and a half. Okay. But that could have been like we had like day dates and we had night date too. So like at 1 a.m. we were chit-chatting with them and our PJs at that point. Like yeah. You know,

so it could have been like a total of like three hours that day if we were talking. But we never knew who we were talking to. It wasn't like we knew. like when we were going into the pod, we didn't know, like, I didn't know at that point, like, oh, I'm going to talk to Kenny next. Really? It was like a surprise. Yeah.

They were, the producers were basically pairing you guys based on what was happening. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. How is it developing intimacy with a person that you legitimately can't touch? Because for me, like, we actually and I talk about love languages and like, I just really like to be like touched and like I like sex. Obviously, the point is to get out of the pods and do those things.

Right. Like, what is it like feeling intimacy with a person that you legitimately cannot touch them? It was, it was really neat because, I mean, for me, for me anyways, I, with every single date, I was like, I knew that we only had a certain amount of time. So I kind of was like trying to make that more of an emotional connection with them from the beginning and kind of like open them up a little bit more. So for me that like, I don't know, it was, it was really interesting how we all wanted to, like, like when we were starting to make our connections with those certain said people. Like with Kenny, I mean, he was like actually my first date. Like from the very beginning.

Yeah, he was my first date. And I just, I liked the way he sounded. And we just started to like, he just sounded very like calming. But like my like a best friend. Like we just, we literally did have that feeling together. But with that being said, I got so comfortable with him. Like I was like whole to want. to talk to him all the time. Like I remember like when our hour and a, you know, whatever

time frame that we had for our date, like whenever it was up, sometimes it wasn't like, there wasn't a warning. It was just like, and sound was off. It was, and we were like, wait, no, no, no, I want to keep talking. And then you didn't know, yeah, and then you didn't know if you were, you didn't know if you were going to have like a night date with that person. So you may have had to wait until like the entire next day to like talk to that person again. And you just, And then again, you may not have even known because what if they didn't think that they were connecting with you on the same level? So, you know, I mean, that's, didn't necessarily know if you were going to talk to that person again. That is so fascinating to me because like Ashley and I have talked about like dates you go on and you don't hear from the person after and you're like, was I on the same date as that person?

Right. Yeah. But then you could like, you know, what's funny about that is like you could be like, well, he, it's not his fault. He likes me. It's Netflix's fault. You're like, or not Netflix, the production company, where you're like, well, he probably wants to see me, but like he's not allowed right now.

And they're just like making him go on other dates. Like you can make all of it. I mean, it's funny, you know, I know a lot of inside things about The Bachelor from a friend that I know that's a producer and things like that. But like the way that they do this is like they really set it up so you fall for somebody. I mean, that's crazy.

Like that they could, that you are viving with somebody and then you just stop talking to them. You don't know when you're going to see them again. Like the way that your mind must work is just like, oh my God, I'm like craving this person. at all those. Yeah, it was. That is the term, crave. Like, I literally was like, oh, my God, I can't wait to talk to him again. Yeah. It was just really, it was really fascinating. But you really did.

You made such an emotional connection with that person. And that's like, I mean, just saying, like, for the actual reveal and everything, like, I think that's what made it so nerve-wracking. And we can talk about that in a minute, too. But you're like, wow, I made such an emotional connection with someone. Like we said before, what if it was just their voice and like now it's their personality and what if they what if you just aren't physically attracted to them when you see them like it was okay yeah we have a question about this I'm a question about this so you're in your mind you're like I'm super connected to this person did it ever cross your mind that like the person would be like really unattractive and

did you look around the room at women and say to yourself every woman in this room is so beautiful probably every man is decently good looking yeah you like there's a possibility that like this is somebody I'm really not going to be attracted to. Um, both. So, I mean, I do remember having conversations with the girls. Like, we all definitely said that. Like, you know, we're all decent, you know, looking. So I'm sure they wouldn't like trick us, but maybe what if that was the, what if that was the show? They just brought on all these trolls with all these hot chicks and we're like, well, is love blind? And you guys are like, no.

No. How rich are you? How much money do you have? How big is your house? And we want to get into this because it was on the show. You were like, I'm not so physically attracted. This is not typically what I'm into. We're not here to slam anybody or talk shit. Kenny's a very attractive guy. We're all aware. So we want to kind of talk about it.

But was he what you were picturing at all? For whatever reason, I did have this like vision, I guess, that he was going to be like a blonde guy. And I've dated blonde guys in the past. Like, it's just so funny. He had big one of energy. Yeah. Big blonde energy. You're like, I can tell you don't have black facial script.

I can fucking tell through this wall. Kenny. You're like, Kenny, you know what? I know you're blonde and I know you post biblical scriptures on Instagram. And that's the vibe. I said Ashley when it was biblical scripture posts the other day and I was like, Jesus Christ. Which, no shade.

It's, you know, whatever. Like God is good. But so you were feeling a blonde vibe. And then my thing. and I felt this with Jessica. So we support Jessica on this podcast. Don't at me. We,

I think she was like, if he's anything but like a hideous troll, I'm happy. My vibe from her was like, and again, she ended up not really loving the way he looked. But I think she was so excited to just see like a decent looking guy come down the red carpet.

Like was that your vibe too? Like I like him so much. Just make sure he's decent. Oh, yeah. How you were feeling? Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, when we were revealed to each other, my, my situation was kind of crazy.

So they, before they revealed us, they, I mean, they pulled us both. But they had some, like, technical difficulties. Like, they're, like, lining us up for the doors to open. And. Oh, they did y'all just one after the next. Yeah, well, not like lined up. No, not like lined up. But I mean, like, you know, you know,

prepping me. Yeah, yeah. Yes, they prep me. So I'm like standing there with the glass doors and shaking. Like, I'm going to puke or shit or something. I don't know. I have a question. Were you more afraid of what he would look like?

Or were you more afraid of what he would think that you look like? Because I feel like I'd be like, oh my God, what if this person doesn't like me? Oh, good call. I'm scared. Both probably. I mean, yeah, I think both. I think more so me like because I can't necessarily like hide my expressions. So, I mean, maybe I can.

I smile a lot. so maybe it's hidden under that, but I, yeah, I think I was, I was definitely more afraid that he was not going to be and I would have made some type of weird face and the camera would have caught that and I don't know. So, yeah, but I was like shaking, like I said. But there was like two false alarms before I actually went out. So like they, I was like standing there for like five minutes or like the next time that you like hear anything. It's going to be the doors opening. And so I'm like standing there like Jesus Christ and then all of a sudden like someone, like someone, comes in from behind and like, oh, I'm so sorry, like, we're having technical difficulty.

They faked you out? Yeah, they faked me out. And then they, like, get me all set up again and, like, standing at the door, I'm like shivering again. And then they come back in and they're like, oh, I'm sorry, we have to like break for lunch. I was like, what the fuck? I mean, I am hungry also, but Jesus Christ. You're literally engaged and your husband's behind the door. They're like, oh, we got to take a lunch. I'm sorry, can have a sandwich that's getting, uh, That's getting cold. That is crazy. Yeah.

I was like, oh my God. So, yeah. So then it was like another hour because we had like an hour break for lunch. I ate all the things because at this point I was like, fuck it. I'm starving. Like stress eating. Yeah, it's emotional eating. So yeah.

So there are times a charm. Then the door is open. I see them. And yeah, I mean, I guess again and what I said was true. I mean, I am typically more attracted to darker features. you're not. And so I think me seeing him initially, I was like, he is an attractive guy. We obviously have a good connection. But I'm not like, whoa. Yeah. Kind of thing. But as soon as we like connected in the middle of the red carpet, he, you know, he actually did get down on 1-E2,

reproposed, thought that was super sweet and gave me a kiss. And he, like, it was a really like good kiss. And I was like, oh. Oh. Okay. And he's a bigger, he's big. Like he's, yeah, he's like six two, six three. Okay. Kenny's hot. Yeah. Yeah, he is.

He's very attractive. Very, very attractive. This is so interesting to me because I feel like, you know, you go on online dates. And like, I feel like we're all trying to hide our faces when we like show up at a bar and you're like, well, this person like me, will I like them? And it's like that wash of just like disappointment sometimes. You see somebody you're like, I'm just not like super, I don't want to fuck this person, you know? But you're already emotionally invested. in them. So this is like so different than just like a normal online date, which none of us are doing

anymore. So it doesn't even matter. Right. It's just funny because like the whole thing and like let's just knock it out of the way early because I feel like the whole thing of love love is blind is like, is love blind? Answer the question. It's like whatever. Like you think the person's attractive or not. Like it's so it's only if you think they're attractive. Like yeah, love is blind for Lauren and Cameron because they both thought each other were hot. So you know what I mean? Like the whole thing is like, is love blind, can it work out? And it's like, yeah, with a bunch of hot people,

it's going to work out for some of them. Right. You know what I mean? Like, it's funny. So the end of this episode, we're not going to be like, is love blind, Kelly? It's just like, yeah, you can meet so, you know, like that you can meet someone in this situation.

And yes, you can fall in love with them and you can say love is blind. But at the end of the day, I still think attraction matters, not even saying that you're going to need to be with somebody that's conventionally attractive. I think you need to find them attractive. Yeah, absolutely. For sure. Yeah. And I'll be to that too. Like when I... So our first scene, the first like scene of Mexico when like all the couples like

were actually meeting each other for the first time. Like seeing every like that literally was the first time that we saw everybody. And I thought like Cameron to me like he is. He's a very strikingly handsome man. And we made a connection in the pods too. It just wasn't as obviously as. intense. But seeing him, I was like, wow, like him out of everyone else, I was very much attracted to. But like, I would not have at that point because I had already made that

emotional connection. Like I thought Kenny was physically, I mean, both. Like he was emotionally and physically cute. Yeah. No, I wanted to talk about this too. So to Ashley, obviously, about like how people can grow on you and become more attractive because you love them. And I think that most of the people I've dated are like so gorgeous and the person that like I had the longest relationship with. I think he's so gorgeous but I was in love with him. So he was better looking to me because of that. I was attracted to him to date one. But I think that people become more attractive as you love their personality also. Absolutely. Yeah for sure. Because I mean like prior to the show I mean guys have obviously dated in the past like very good looking. Blah blah. I mean that's like

if you saw the Bachelorette party scene my like best friend was like Kelly has a bad picker because I typically always went for these dudes that look like models and whatever and but then after one, two dates with them or hanging out with them like, I'm like, they're the worst. Like they have terrible personalities and that was that. I love this topic of like attractiveness. We had somebody on the show a long time ago.

Her name's Maria. She's a matchmaker and she was talking about like men and women going on dates and she said like women will continue to date a man that they're not super attracted to, but men won't go on a second date. It's like the penis doesn't get up on the first, you know, if they're not like attracted to you. And so I think it's interesting, like, how much do looks matter to men versus women. Interesting. Yeah.

But do you, I mean, it sounds to me like, and correct me if I'm wrong, it seemed to me that there wasn't this overall overwhelming attraction to him. Is that accurate? Like, you realized he was a good guy? Yes. I think so. I'm like, I don't know. I was like very much.

connected with him. And I mean, granted, we had the whole, like, sex conversation in one of the episodes and we didn't go through that. I mean, we didn't have sex on the show while we were dating. But we made out, like, all the time. Like, we were very intimate with one another. So, I mean, I was attracted to him. I think that, I mean, me for one, I did want to have, like, a traditional wedding and I didn't want to, like, I don't know. And I get it. Like, obviously, Lauren and Cameron, they got married and Amber and Bernan. they got married. So, like, their love must have been stronger than mine.

And I kept using the excuse, like, I need more time, you know, and for I want those conventional wedding things to happen. I want to do a bachelor's trip wherever I want to do one. Not at Lips, Atlanta, no offense. But, like, you know, I want to do everything my way, not, yeah, according to somewhere else. So I just, I think that was, like, the biggest thing for me. It wasn't necessarily that I wasn't, like, attracted totally to it.

It was just moved too quick. It just moved too fast. Yeah. It's crazy. I mean, it's not normal. This is why they throw people in these situations because it makes for good TV. It's not, you know, nobody's out here, you know, getting, meeting someone and getting married in a month. I mean, they are and it works out, but it's just not for everybody. Okay. So touch your subject, but you did talk about your ex. Something that really spoke to me that you said that like your family and your parents said that the way that you were with your ex was like kind of infatuation. And we've talked about on this podcast before that like that doesn't always mean that's healthy, you know, like that can be like anxiety and just like sexual attraction and stuff like that. So do you feel like you've kind of learned that lesson too? Not in a like you want to be back with Kenny way, but you know, in terms of like the infatuation and being with this guy that's so hot, like doesn't always mean that's a stable, healthy relationship. Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, I definitely realizing that obviously probably in the relationship,

I realized that it was more of an infatuation because I was like bypassing all kinds of emotions. I wasn't standing up for myself. Like there was a lot of like Kelly playing small in that relationship. And I just was so infatuated with him at that time that I was like, I'll do anything. We can do whatever. Like I mean, I missed like a friend's wedding because he didn't want to go.

And I was like, well, not going by myself. You know, it was just like crazy. But yeah, I honestly, I think that I definitely have learned. I mean,

from that relationship. But even still with, I mean, going through this experiment with love is blind, like truly getting, know that person on that deeper level, on that emotional and intellectual level, that's like what the love is about, your communication with the person and how they're going to support you and raise you up and lift you up and that kind of thing and just create that

like parallel partnership. And that was kind of, I mean, Kenny and I were definitely like on the same page with a lot of things going through the experiment because of our communication with one another. So you definitely, definitely have learned a lot from the show. Because I just, my thing I hated the most and, you know, I got real worked up and was fighting with people in your comments one day. It was just like, you were just trying to be honest and there's editing involved. People just are crazy that don't realize that so much this is edited because the production companies, the networks want to tell a story. So it's crazy that people would think that they see 100% of what happens on any reality show. This one is no different.

But I hate that people got this thing that you were like comparing him to your ex in a way that like he didn't live up. And it's like, we all do that. We all have a feeling from a. previous relationship that we want to have again, whether it's like the butterflies or the sexual attraction or the way that you guys used to laugh together or the, you know, the stuff, you know, it's kind of like, that's what I feel like you were trying to get across was you were like, I want to feel this like sexual infatuation with this person, I think, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I definitely was. Do you feel like, so you said you just needed time. So do you think that you,

and obviously like, obviously needed time to marry a person, but do you think that given the time, like would your love have grown in a different way? Or do you feel that? Or do you feel that you like he just checked a lot of the boxes, which it seems like he did. He's a good-looking guy. He seems nice. You guys seem to have like a very compatible family together, like, socio-economically. Do you think that that was just, he wasn't the one and that's like a great friend to have, you know? Or do you think of given more time you could have like built this love? Like can love grow over time, I guess is what I'm getting at. Yeah. I just know when you know. No, I think that I definitely think that love can grow over time. Just yeah, it definitely can. It can. It can grow.

over time. I mean, granted, obviously things with Kenny and I didn't work out. It was meant to be that way. And we have all, you know, everything, respectful, respect for each other. But I don't know. I mean, had we dated after the show, it was kind of like, I mean, I wanted to do that. And it didn't happen. And therefore, I don't, like, it's like I wasn't even given the chance to see if given more time, we would be together. Yeah. I don't know. I don't want to, we don't want to get you in trouble or anything, but, you know, I think it appeared to be that in what you're saying now was like, it wasn't that you didn't want to see where the relationship went. It was that you didn't feel like the wedding and the marriage was the answer, which a lot of people would

feel no shade to the couples that got married. Right. It's crazy soon. Right. And so, I don't know. I mean, talk as much as you feel comfortable about it and what you're allowed to say, but that you and Kenny, that the day at the altar wasn't the end of the road, right? Right. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean, Kenny and I had chatted about dating, like continuing our relationship. But after after the show was like done filming, he said that he was just like emotionally unavailable. And, you know, this whole process was pretty much like, it was just exhausting and draining. And I like kind of like I want to disconnect from the whole process. And unfortunately, you are a part of the process.

Yeah, wow. thing. And so I was like, okay. And, you know, all I heard was, I don't want to be with you. That's what us girls do. So it was, it was definitely like a rejection. Like, wait, what? We just, after all of this, I've been through this too. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like I was able to, I was able to separate myself from like our actual relationship and the show. Yeah. Yeah. experiment, you know. So, and I guess he wasn't able to do that. But then it's like in hindsight and I don't know, it's like, was he just going through the experiment? Did he actually ever have a connection with me? I don't know. Do you really think that he could, I mean, it seemed like he genuinely like you. I mean, who wouldn't like you? You know, do you feel like some of it was like fake for television? You don't have to answer that. You don't want to do. No, I don't think so. Like I do believe he's a very genuine person. But yeah, it was just, it was just weird. Like, I mean, it was just weird. Like, I mean, Like you said, like the reveal, like you would be afraid of, oh, well, what if they don't like me? Like, what if they're not attracted to me?

I think he was, but I don't know. So there's just so many like unanswered questions. Well, we have, I had a friend. We have a very good friend. One of my best friends is, actually, I met her kind of through you, but she was at the wedding and she, you know, we've talked since. And she was like, we did kind of think they were going to end up together. They met him and stuff like that. And, you know, I know there was kind of like some hangs after.

and I don't know. I'm so curious. I mean, we're not going to have him on, but, you know, where his head was at because it seemed that there was a future there. And I mean, I think he's with someone else now. It's been a, whatever, it's been a fucking year. You dated somebody since too, it's no, whatever.

But it seems, and you're not, you're not pining for him. You don't want to be with him. He is a new partner. Now it is what it is. Everybody's cool. But, like, it's very, like, such a guy thing to do that it's not, it's not that I don't like you. It's not that I don't want to fuck you.

It's just that like I am overwhelmed and I need to separate myself from all of this. Right. Together. Just guys in general. Like I can't, I can't be in a relationship right now. I'm too busy with work. It's like, yeah, sometimes it's a line, but sometimes it's really because they can't compartmentalize and do all these things. So it's like whatever made him have to separate himself.

Yeah. You know, that's a bummer. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And I think honestly, too, like in hindsight, like what I came to realize is basically like, Kenny is a very self-aware person. And so Kenny basically did what Kenny needed to do at the end of the show.

You know what he felt was going to be best and probably what he felt was going to be best for the both of us. And kind of like, you know, had I taken the time to kind of just like reflect on that, I probably would have been like, okay, you know, too versus getting like super like just rejected feeling and whatnot. But him creating that space for us was a good thing, like I said in hindsight, because it was basically like him, I guess just like encouraging the thought of like, hey, do we actually like have real feelings for each other? Or is this just all the forced pressure of the experiment?

Like, let's just like take that time. So, you know, but in a girl's mind and where I was at in my like, you know, self-love journey, I guess at that point in time, I wasn't as aware of that. So in my mind, I was just like rejected and heartbroken. Yeah. And I mean, obviously he knows this because he received it. But I did, you know, probably the crazy girl thing.

And I did write him a letter. It's not crazy. Not crazy. We're going to validate it all day. Super normal. It is normal. So I wrote him a letter. And obviously I sent him to it.

And this was maybe like maybe like two weeks after everything was said and done. And we really hadn't talked. So imagine yourself talking to someone for six and a half weeks straight. The thing that would fuck me up the most is the, the experience I went through with this person. Like that is fucking crazy and you guys were in it together and like I would, if I wanted to be with somebody after that after what we had been through, which is just really bonkers and the end and we broke up,

it would devastate me. Like because of the, it's like that's the thing where people go through the bachelor together, the people in the house, they become best friends because it's a wild thing to experience with the person and you experience it with this person that you were like, let's see where this goes and then okay, keep going. But that's what I meant to say of just like, that would, I don't even know if my feelings would be real. I would be like, we were in this crazy situation together.

I feel bonded to you for life. Right. I know. Tell us about the letter. Sorry. Yeah, no. But no, to speak on that. Like, yeah, it was like, we, it was like, hey, I'm not emotionally available for this.

That was it. And, you know, he, like, was leaving just saying, like, you know, we'll talk. And I'm like, like, but like, when? But like, when? Like, like, tomorrow, like two weeks? never. At the reunion, I'll talk to you. I'll talk to you. And that's unfair too. Like when somebody says to you, like, we'll talk.

Like, I, even though I bargain for it, I think probably the finality of it is a little easier to deal with than somebody being like, there's this gray area and we'll talk. For sure. Like you, everyone needs to kind of have that, like, closure or just communication of what it is. Like, we need black and white. We don't like gray area. Like, when, women, when we lose control of the situation, which is what happened, we freak out. Freak out. I don't think it's fair to say freak out. Like, I just, you have a normal emotional response to losing something that you're not in

control of. I don't want to put it as like crazy, but yeah, I freak out. But like, I feel like it's a normal emotional response. I think men can sort of turn off the faucet of emotion a little bit easier than men can. And I, I guess, I wish I could be like that. I'm just not. But the control thing, I'm glad. brought that up and we'll I mean,

Raina knows me obviously so much better than anybody else. Like where when I'm in a relationship and I lose control, I do freak out. I just, I, I am a control freak and by nature and I like to be in control. I like a equal relationship. Right.

That's not what I mean. When I'm, with somebody, we're committed, we're in love that. I'm not, I don't need control in that. We're good.

When I feel committed and it's stable and it's, I feel secure. But at those beginning stages when one person is the power, then you have it and they, have it and I hate it. It drives me insane. Like what I feel like I was kind of the person that had it and I was in control of my emotions and in the situation and then I, then I've lost it. I like, it's, it's something that I'm still struggling with working on within myself is like, yeah, just still being like what's meant to be will be. I hate that loss of control and anything

in life. And this is why this whole situation right now sucks. We've lost control of our touring and our, you know, people have it much worse. But like, I hate this feeling of like, I don't know what to do. We went down a dark path. We got to hear about this email. Sorry. Yeah. But it's true.

No, but yeah. So felt, you know, powerless in a sense, devastated, rejected, like not understanding, like, why. Like, yeah, we just, like,

went through this entire experiment together and you just want to cut me out. Like, I don't, I need answers. I don't know what's happening. And so anyways, yeah, so I wrote him, like a handwritten letter,

mailed it to him. And it was just saying like, I'm in love with you, come back to me. It was just like, you know, I was like loving you. I was growing feelings for you or I had grown feelings for you. And I was loving the person that I was getting to know. I thought that we were going to continue dating. And I wanted to continue that. I want to continue that.

Like, and see where it goes. Like I'm not saying like this is forever and we're going to be together forever. I just, I did need more time. Like I was being real, you know, with the experiment. I did need more time and I want to see like, I want you to meet my friends. I want our families to hang out more like all that kind of stuff. Normal shit. I mean, because you guys really only knew each other six weeks, right?

Yeah. It's a very intense six weeks. I mean, you could really feel like you know the person, but still. Right. Exactly. Yeah. So, and I not, I mean, I knew everyone would love Kenny. I mean, he really is.

He's a stand of guy. He's a great person. But I still wanted, like I said, all those like traditional things. I wanted my friends to hang out with his friends. I mean, Kenny also is. I think like six, six and a half years younger than me and not to bring up the whole age difference, but we were. Yeah. So we had a pretty significant age gap too. Okay. Um, but he always acted so mature. Yeah, but he always acted super mature. I was like, this is a grown man. Yeah. Yeah. Like he acted more mature than half the guys I've ever dated. Yeah. Anyway, so sent the letter. Never heard a thing. Like, no text, no email. No, obviously. Obviously. he didn't write me a letter back. And I was just like, I'm okay.

You know what we do. If you know girls got to eat, you know that when you don't respond, you get dragged. And Rayna and I have given guys opportunities to respond to our emails and they have it and we drag that. So if you want to, no, I'm just kidding.

I just think everybody deserves it. I just, you know, whatever we can say what we will. I think take the show out of the mix, just take two normal people. which is still what you guys are and to humans and everybody deserves to be responded to when they put themselves out there. Right. Yeah. I think what it mentally breeds for you is crazy. Like, you shouldn't have to spend all this time. I spent a month waiting for somebody to respond to me once. And you just go through so you're just fucking angry and you're mad. You don't understand it. You're

reading all your text messages. You're like, fuck this person for not respecting me enough to send me five sentences. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And I mean, we obviously, we have talked about that letter since. I think it was like a few months later that I mentioned something about it. Because I still had, I had like a t-shirt of his, like I had some things of his. And anyway, so I just like one day just reach out and was like, hey, like basically I apologize. Like, hey, sorry if I like my letter like freaked you out. Maybe that's why you know, I know. But still I did. But just like, you know, kind of like water under the bridge like, sorry if that like freaked you out. I guess that's like

what happened. But it is what it is now. Like we've, obviously moved on and you know I still have your stuff like if you want to like meet up somewhere and I can get that to you and yeah he responded and it all was fine and he he basically said like yeah it was like kind of like no response was the best response in that situation and I was like left the way your brain thinks that's not for me brain banks but you know it's fine now like he has apologized just for what happened you know yeah for breaking my heart I guess or how I felt at that moment but it's funny because like my mom kept saying like this was like a month later or whatever and she was like how are you doing

you know she kept checking in on me obviously as mom's due and you know there was like one point where I was like over it like I was moved on too and I was like wow maybe I was I mean obviously I was never in love with Kenny so those feelings that did happen on the experiment they did fade because obviously I'm not around him anymore you know and yeah and I was like mom, I'm really okay. Like, life's moving on. I'm going to get out there and start dating other people. Like, I'm not, I'm not in love with him and I never was.

Like, I loved the man I was getting to know. But like, obviously it's not meant to be. So like, cool. We're good. We're good. Kelly's happy. Let's move on. Yeah.

It's just crazy, though, because, I mean, the edit was a different story. I mean, it really was. It was like, but I think it was like, you were probably just being super transparent and honest, where you were like, I am comparing him to my ex. And I don't typically like blondes. and what people viewing it heard was, this guy's not good enough and hot enough for me.

And I don't like him and I'm rejecting him at the altar. And that's why people came for you. And nobody should do that anyway. It's fucking trash. People that do that and these internet trolls and whatnot. But like the show told a very different story, you know? And it's just, it was painful for me to see because it was like, the truth is like, yeah, those things are true.

I'm not ready to have sex with them yet. He's maybe not my perfect type physically, but I am willing to see what else develops because I am, getting to know him so well on this deeper level, and we do connect. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, for sure. And like I said, I mean, obviously they didn't show this, but I mean, we were intimate with each other. Right, you know.

Right, it wasn't just like a, like, don't touch me type of situation. Right, exactly. I wasn't like, refulced by him or anything. Yeah, no. Yeah. Definitely attracted to him. Yeah, it's also a very short amount of time. Look, I don't wait six weeks to fuck somebody.

I wait an hour. But six minutes. I was just somebody all night last night. and we didn't have sex, but we cuddled. It was nice. Anyways. Well, you don't like him, so. What else am I doing, right?

Like, I should be fucking. But I think that, like, there's no amount of time that you should wait to sleep with somebody. Like, you do that when you feel like it. And even though, like, these other, like, clearly Amber and Barnett were getting at it. Like, you could just, you, I could smell the blowjob, like, through the screen.

Like, I could smell the cum on her face. Yeah. But, like, they were clearly, like, so in it. But, like, there's no amount of time you should wait. Six weeks is like a crazy unimaginable amount of the time. Right, exactly. And again, like, we still were intimate with each other. So it's like we were doing other things.

Right. Four days after we actually saw each other. You know, it was so, but they don't, you know, it's not shown. That stuff isn't shown. So it's like it makes me, yeah, it makes it look like I was just like completely not physically attracted to him. And I was just like using sex of me not wanting to have sex. Yeah.

You know, you're like, you're like, you guys, he fingered me. They didn't show. I don't know. I thought Netflix. Netflix would show more. Can't play hand jobs on Netflix, guys. Sorry. You had this really intimate conversation in bed together that they filmed about like being intimate. And I thought that was like, I was like, wow, they're really doing it. Like cameras are in here and like you're really having a discussion of these telling you like her way. And it was just like a for reality TV, I even thought it was very intimate.

What was it like having that conversation on television? Yeah. So you can tell people what, yeah, let's talk it. Let's recap the comment. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, um,

we were talking about like if we were going to have sex because we were the only couple, well, maybe not the only couple, but we were one of the only couples at that point that had not had sex. Um, and so it was like, well,

now we've been living together. So like, is it going to happen now? Um, and I just had the, I was just being very vulnerable with him and saying like, you know, I just really want to have,

like, I don't want to necessarily like, rush into having sex because I've had issues in the past with having sex and like not climaxing, not having an orgasm. And I think it's because I wasn't completely like emotionally involved. You know, I think I think the one of the biggest reasons why women don't climax during sex is because of a trust issue. Like and it's a deep rooted like subconscious like trust issue. And that's why they won't they're not like completely like letting go or like surrendering basically. And so I was trying to explain that to him.

Like, I feel like, again, we don't have, we have, yeah, we're maybe having like deep conversations and stuff, but like, I need more time. I want more time to have even deeper conversations with you so that we can, hopefully, with more time, we can create that. And I will be able to communicate more effectively in the bedroom with you so that I can tell you what I like and blah, blah, blah, you know. And so it was more so that and me just explaining like it's an emotional connection, not saying I'm not attracted to you.

That's why we're not. So, you know. So let's talk about your orgasm journey. Yeah. Let's talk about it. Because you're open about it, right? Yeah. You'll post an Instagram and I'm just like,

Kelly, really? Just lays it out there. Okay, so catch me up because I don't have like a bunch of spoilers. How often are we coming or not coming? Yeah. So, okay. I would say that, well, I still have not had like an orgasm during like sex, but... That's orgasm.

Yeah, exactly. I've never had that. So it was like, what was that? This time last year was like my first actual orgasm. It was from a vibrator. And that's the only way that I've ever gotten off still. Like I still haven't. But it's great. I'm like, oh my gosh.

It was funny because, like, I was sharing this information with a guy of friend one time. And he was like, hell, you're like a fucking 15-year-old dude. Like, you're, you masturbate like every day. And I was like, I think I had, I've had friends doing this since they were 15. I have 15 years to make up. Yeah. When you had your first orgasm, was it a manual or did you use, like, a toy? She said, I used a toy.

Yeah, I used a vibrator. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. And so we, but I had to have instruction. I had to have instruction. So this is crazy too, but like. Well, I think I know this story.

Didn't want to your, didn't your friend. have to like walk you through it. You basically had phone, you had phone sex with your girlfriend. Right? That sounds so bad. She was like, I'm getting turned on.

This is weird. I'm turned on. I have not masturbated in days. I'm going to go masturbating soon. Actually, if you guys just want to come with me to the bedroom. We'll walk you through it, Rana.

Yeah, I haven't been masturbating since up 12. I just like, what kind of vibrator was it? Was it a penit? Like, was it a dildo with a vibrator? Or just about like a, like a, just like a what clitor?

I don't know. Yeah, I put a simulator. That's it. A small little. Yeah, it's like super small. It looks like a lipstick. It may be even called a lipstick. I have that.

Yeah, it's like, I think I got it like from a, I don't know, me like a pure romance kind of party or something. I don't know, but it's like the best. And it's been great. I love it. But yeah, I just, I didn't even know like how to do it. And so I was like, I don't know.

I guess texting with my girlfriend one day and she just, I don't know, telling her. And she was like, okay, just make sure that you like spread your lips. apply pressure and blah, blah, blah. And I was like, wait, what? And she's like, yeah, like, press like hard and spread your lips and like get in there. And I was like, okay. And literally, I mean, I was like, that's the trick. That is it. Could she be my friend? This is the best friend anyone's ever had. She's great. I know she is. It's not Jenny Jones, but they're all in the same circle. She's like, I masturbate with her all the time. Yeah. Jenny, Jenny's supposed to call me

after this. We have a masturbation date in an hour. No. I mean, do you, can you tell us, like, you know, share as much as you want, but like, why did it take that long? I mean, this isn't like a what is wrong with you, but like, why do you feel like it took you so long to have an orgasm, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're not like this, I want to be, I want people to know you'd, you'd had sexual partners.

Right. For sure. Yeah. And you also have a lot of girlfriends and a sister, right? I mean, I'm assuming you people around you that are talking to you about their orgasms. Yeah. Or do you guys not, do not talk about that stuff with your friends. I know lots of you don't.

Yeah, we definitely do. I mean, obviously, Jenny. Clearly. She walked. Her friend walked her through her orgasm. They're definitely talking about it. Yeah, we definitely talking about. And I think honestly, like, two parts.

I mean, as far as like why I was never like masturbating, I think I always alluded it to like a feeling of like being naughty and like that, I guess. And I don't know. I mean, I don't remember having like a conversation with my mom about this or anything. I just think that maybe back then, I don't know, when I was in high school or college, it was just like girls were like hiding like obviously you hide your vibrate but like you like can hide your vibrator and so it was like naughty or like whatever you like a good girl complex like you want to be like a good girl yes yeah exactly so i think that was like one story that i always told myself but then another thing

i mean definitely it's like i said like a trust issue like psychology wise i had like a really um crappy relationship scenario happen in college and i honestly think that that's why i was not never like opening myself up to like receiving pleasure because I was in a situation of kind of like abuse in a sense. And to remove myself from the situation, I would basically had to perform some sexual favors for this man. It was horrible. Yeah. So going, going darker. But yeah, I did. So I had to perform some sexual favors for him. So I was like, the faster I can do this, like, give me this fuck out of here. Oh my God. Kelly. Yeah. So I always alluded in a sense, like I said subconsciously, it was like, okay, like, let me just jack off the guy or like,

let's have sex and like I'm, it's fine if the guy just gets off. Like, and it was almost like a a weird like victory for me. Like when they got off, I was like, okay, cool. Like this is good. Right. It also sounds sort of like a self-wears preservation thing where you're like, if this just ends, I don't need to talk about what I need and like how I'm going to feel pleasure. And thank you for sharing this by the way. Yeah. Yeah. It's fine. Really appreciate it. If you have a negative sexual experience at a young age, sex can be correlated with that forever. I mean, it's like that's regardless of if it was abuse or a really toxic power dynamic, just negative experiences in general just carry over because you're molding who you are sexually

at that age. Right. Exactly. You know, so I mean, yeah, I'm glad that you shared that. And I'm sure, you know, we're not going to get into super details. But I'm sure women can relate to that of like having this. toxic sexual relationship early on and it just impacts you for the rest of your life, you know? Yeah. Yeah. But even across the board, I think we all really feel like to really,

a lot of women, I think feel that regardless of their past of, I just need to trust somebody. Trust somebody to go down on you and to, you know, really be vulnerable. Because to have an orgasm is a really vulnerable experience. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And yeah, you don't have to have like a traumatic situation or traumatic experience for you not to trust someone. It could literally just be like, you really like this guy and then he just like dicked you over and he's and he ghosted you. You know what I mean? It's like now you have this complex of like

well is the next guy going to ghost me? You know, it's a trust issue and that's far I'm saying before. It's like so in any type you're literally like opening yourself up to someone to either be inside you or do things to you and stuff and it's like that sex is such a like energetic

bond that you're you really are exposing all of you energetically to someone at that point. So it's like, does, you know, that like subconscious level of you really, truly trust that person in order for you to be so open and for you to get off? And I'm sure, I mean, granted, there are girls that can easily orgasm during sex and like every other thing, you know, and they may still have trust issues. So I don't know. I mean, I'm not like a sex expert, but I just feel like for me, that's like what it was. Like it's kind of trust, but then relating all of that to that former, you know, college story, which.

And just women having harder time get off anyway. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Let's throw that into the mix that it's just more difficult, you know, the, what, the percentage of Raymond, Randy, you used to know, is the phone, the landline's ringing. Oh, my God. That is. Do you have to talk to somebody? You got to, you got to take this call.

What is your neighbor? My parents, my parents have a landline that they've never once answered. It's like, just get rid of it. But I know. My parents do, too. Yeah. You know, we used to have the statistic right now that we like the percentage of men that orgasm during sex and the percentage of women, it's like staggering. It was staggering.

Like 60, like something like men orgasm like 85% of the time and women orgasm like 20% of time. I don't know, but I'm curious. I'm curious. And Ashley and I've talked about this on the show and like our experiences so we don't have to dive too deep in our own. But like I think that just having those conversations with a partner is so uncomfortable and I've gotten more comfortable. And as I've gotten older. We're like, I don't even know when I was 23, 24, having sex that I even knew sex was for my pleasure. I liked it.

I got pleasure out of it. But I don't think I would have been like, go down on me. That's how I like to orgasm. Or like, I have to go and get on top or like, play with my clit while you're behind me. Like I never would have asked for those things or led by example at that age. And as I've gotten older, I've just been able to talk my partners about that. And like, I was in bed with somebody the other night. I didn't like love the sex, to be honest.

And I started being like, well, what turns you on? What kind of porn do you like? And I am much more comfortable having those conversations. So had you, like, were you having those conversations with your partners throughout this time? Or was that like a don't ask, don't tell, don't talk about it kind of thing? Yeah, no. I would say, yeah, up until I actually had the orgasm last year, I was not. I was definitely like not communicating effectively in the bedroom, like at all.

Like, and I had boyfriends ask me or guys I was dating like, what do you like? What do you like? And I was like, I don't know. Like, I really didn't know what I like. Whatever you want. I wasn't, yeah, and honestly, because I had never really truly explored my body because I wasn't masturbating either. So it's like, that is a learning tool to do. Really?

You know, so I mean, since then, I mean, what I'll tell you guys like. What you like. I cannot wake this to end so I can masturbate. For the guy who I like, Kelly, walk us through. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Go ahead of my mom. But no. So what encouraged. like me to even start like practicing like masturbating last year. So I actually after the show,

again, I'm like health and empowerment coach and I really, I mean, during the show, we had to kind of like take like a hiatus from all work and, you know, and obviously now at this point I'm like heartbroken. I need to get my like brain back functioning so that I can like do my coaching like whatever and just get back to life all together. So I actually hired like a business and mindset coach just a few months after. that show ended. And she was the line. I mean, I would say that she did a lot for my business, too, but she did a lot from my mindset. Like, she literally was like a therapist for me and just like connecting my like different like beliefs and like behaviors and things. And she was like, okay,

like she always used the line like how you're communicating in the bedroom is how you're going to communicate in the boardroom per se. And I was like, okay. So she was like, so if you're not confident in the bedroom, you're probably not confident in the boardroom and vice versa. She's like, you may not speak up as much, like, if you're having, like, a sales meeting or whatever. And I was like, yeah, you're right. Like, you really don't. And she was like, even if you feel confident in, like, your work work, she goes, there's another area of your life.

If you're not having, like, you know, pleasurable sex, if you're not, um, masturbating, like all these things, if you're not really, like, opening up to pleasure in your life, there's somewhere else in your life that you're not experiencing pleasure either. And I was like, so mind blown. And so, like, I took her through that story as well. And what encouraged it, she was like, hell, we're going to use this, like, method called orgasmic manifestation. And she was like, do you know what that is?

And I was like, no, I have no idea. And it's basically like you use the same feeling when you're getting off to manifest what you want, basically. Oh. Like you put yourself in that feeling. You put yourself in that place. So, like, when you're climaxing, you just yell out your career goals. Right, exactly. It's something like that. Yeah. So anyways, when she said that, though, I was like, I was like, well, that's a problem because I've never had an orgasm. And she's like, oh, Jesus Christ. She's like, God damn it, Kelly. Yeah. She's like, Kelly, you won't be more money. Okay.

I know. She's like, well, first, okay, well, first, we need to do that because obviously you can't manifest something that you've never felt before. Okay. So she was like, like, every day, like, I want you to like masturbate. And I'm, like, I was like, okay. Okay. Okay, got it. I will do that. That is so funny. I can't get over this.

She's like, I'm a business coach and I'm walking this chick through her orgasm. But this is just, I mean, we didn't know we were going to go down this road so deeply, but I love this. Like it's really, I think also, I don't know, we've talked with Remy, our friend Remy at length. Her whole podcast is about her not having an orgasm until, you know, she was an adult and how she got there and everything. But like, I think women can feel like something's wrong with my body. too. Everybody else is doing this. Like, why can't I? What's wrong with me? And, you know, women feel like that about various different things that our bodies

are supposed to do. But like, did you feel like when you finally got there empowered? Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. Absolutely. Yeah. Did you cry? Like, what happened when you had your first? I want to cry. I like, I don't want to like Kelly's first orgasm. I want to like make fun. I've just been mastering for so long, Kelly. Like, I can't even imagine what this would feel. like, I'm so happy for you. Yeah.

Well, it was, I mean, it was. It was the greatest feeling I've ever experienced. I know. That's amazing. Yeah, it was. And, well, that's what I was saying. Like, I have, like, a best guy friend. And I was, like, sharing with him.

And he was like, you literally, like a 15 year old. I was like, I was like, dude. I mean, people should do this every day. But are you, are you good now? Like, do you, can you climax with, with a toy or whatever, like, whatever you want now? Like, are you, you know what? Yeah. pretty yeah yeah I do I mean it wasn't just like a one-hit wonder right no I mean like the first time it

it legit took like probably a solid hour and a half like I was just like you didn't like burn your clit off I know I could not head I am the laziest masturbator that has ever lived like I talk about like I literally just lay the vibrator on my clit when it happens it happens it happens I'm so lazy it is crazy I'll talk to myself a little bit but literally it just sits there um but I do want to say I I see like the boldness correlation where like if you can be bold you can't be bold in life if you can't probably just be bold even when you're by yourself so I could understand it leading into other things you're like I'm alone here I need to be able to like take control of myself right yeah and then I could be more confident other places absolutely yes yeah and that's exactly how I felt I mean and my

communicate because I mean your actions and your words your thoughts like everything is actually you communicating with yourself like okay well I like this like you're having that inner dialogue with yourself. So, okay, so now you're improving your communications. And now you're, take that and apply it to all of your other relationship. Like, how can those other relationships improve through communication. And like, I would say the guy I dated, you know, in between, you know, the show airing and us filming and stuff, like very much based on communication. I mean, a lot. Like, my communication was like through the roof. Yeah. Good. Yeah. We all have shit to work through. Like, you know what I mean, but like all the stuff I feel like you've dealt with now with that relationship.

Obviously, that didn't work out. We don't need to get into it, but you're single. So the communication improved. You learned these lessons with Kenny. Like all these things are like made you your best self for like whoever comes on next. You know, I always say that. Like I, you know, I've been single for a while, but I feel like I've become my best self for whoever the next person should be. You know, I didn't feel like I knew myself and was the best partner a few years back, you know. So, I mean, whoever gets to day you next. next is so lucky. Yeah, thanks.

Yeah, yeah. Are you getting those DM slides? I mean, since the show, like you're, you guys, all you guys, your life has changed. Yeah,

it is. It doesn't feel like, I mean, I guess it doesn't feel like for me because like, I mean, like, obviously like, the couples that are still together

and we're married, like, they're like all up in the press, you know, and like having to do all that. And like, I, you know,

I'm not. So per se. So, It doesn't feel like too much has changed on my end. So we just kind of feel like still normal. But yeah, I mean, there's like a lot of messages coming in. I mean, women and men, I guess. But, you know.

Would you entertain it? You just, you really, I mean, I'll date a guy that's in my DMs. It's just whether he's hot or not. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I totally like would entertain it. All right.

Guys. I don't know. I'm just kidding. Well, we want to wrap up with you with some. burning love is blind questions of course um you know i know people say to you all the time why did you dump kenny and so um we we covered that uh so i have a burning question okay go for it i said this to i know there are articles out there and they've been answered but i said this to actually as soon as we're watching it i was like she and nina had that mud stain on her dress

and then she came back and it wasn't on her dress i need to know about the mud stain i don't know because I noticed that too. I totally noticed that. And I was like, wait, what? They cleaned it. So if people don't know, there's a scene where this girl basically leaves him, at the altar, she's running and she falls in the mud. It is a giant mud stain on her white dress that has like tool and silk and all this.

And then like an hour later she comes back and there's no mud on the dress. And I was like, Ashley, they switched a dress. That was crazy. Also, when she fell, you know the producers were like, oh, fuck yes. They were like, oh my God, this moment. She fucking fell. She's running away from the altar. We couldn't have planned this better.

I mean, everything she does seems like it's scripted for like reality TV. She's like, you want to talk? Let's talk. And she like grabs the chair and throws it down. And I'm like, this is so melodramatic. Like it's like she thought of all this in her head and like spewed it back. I love it. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know about the dress. No, I don't know about the dress. You know. Kelly. I know. People want to know, I think, across the board. who you're still friends with, if anybody, who you became closest to, that type of thing.

Yeah, for sure. So Jessica and I knew each other before the show. Yes, you and Jessica. So Jessica and obviously and I are still friends. We just didn't know that we were doing the show. Like, I didn't tell anybody except for my like super close, like best friends and then like obviously my family. And I think she was the same way. So we showed up on like set the first day and we're like, no way. Crazy. So yeah, like we're still friends. But yeah. I made probably like the deeper connection with Gianina actually. I am curious if people have connected like,

because there's so many people's stories that didn't get shared or whatever. Like people, if people are connecting like the way they do with like Bachelor castoffs and the whole Bachelor community, like have you connected with anybody that was on the show since? Like, do you see people relationships coming out of those situations at all? I mean, love is blind paradise? Yeah.

That's what I'm saying. Paraly's puns. I don't. Well, it's funny because, like, obviously there was, like, two other couples that did get engaged. Which people don't know this. Can we talk about this?

Yeah. Rina, did you know this? Rana, did you know that? I never knew. How would I know? No, wait, so there's an article. Yes, there's an article out there on these two couples that they, so apparently, and sorry, Kelly,

I know you're the pro here, but I at least have to flex my knowledge. Yeah. Allegedly, and tell me if I'm wrong, Netflix didn't know if anyone would get engaged. So when seven couples got engaged, they were like, what the fuck? So they basically had to pick the five, the two that got engaged. One of them went on their own honeymoon, right? Like they paid for their own honeymoon.

So two couples got engaged and they never showed their story at all. Are they still, did they date? Are they still together? Like what's happening with them? They're not still together. No, neither of the couples are still together. They did date, I guess, maybe like a few weeks or a month or whatever, like after. One of them went on a honeymoon on their own.

They were like, fuck you. You're not paying for a honeymoon. and we're going to go on our own honeymoon. There's like articles out there. I would be so mad if I was the couple of didn't get picked. I know. So insult. Oh, I have a question.

Okay. Another thing Ashley and I couldn't stop talking about. Ashley noticed it. So I want to give her credit because I never would notice it. She hadn't pointed it out. Towards like the last couple of episodes, you guys are all drinking out of gold cups. There was no glass.

I got no glass at the pool. Like, what was that about? I get two things. one, like, they didn't, I guess they didn't really want to show, like, what was in the cup or, like, how much was being drank. So that's why they did, like, a solid color. But what's about the quantity?

Yeah, I think, yeah, like, one of the reasons was the quantity, like, I mean, they may have had, like, water in there, but they were making it look like wine. Who knows, you know, or vice versa. But the second thing, it was like, yeah, the second thing, I think it was just, like, continuity. So, like, for the editing purposes, I think they just have to like. Oh, that's a good call. because if you had like a white, a glass of white and a full glass of white in one scene and then you had a half-draint glass of red and the other scene. Oh my God, editing. Yeah. I didn't never cross

my mind. I thought it was because they couldn't legally show that you were all drunk and made these decisions drunk. So the marriages won't hold up if you're like under the influence of the stuff. No. That is so funny. That's very like, I don't want to say low budget, but it's funny that they were like, we can't spend too much time in this editing. They're like, too much time. A year and a half wasn't enough time for that. Okay, I have another alcohol-related question. I'm not going to ask if Jessica has a problem with alcohol because we are team Jessica on this podcast.

And we know that she does. And we know that she does. I think she was trying to drink herself to a point where she wanted to fuck Mark. And that's what I'm going with. And that's my statement. Can relate. Raina's like I did that last thing. I noticed you guys were drinking in, like you were on a date,

you were drinking in the pods? Like, were people getting drunk in those pods? were people stumbling out of their dates? Like, what? Yeah, yeah, I think so. I honestly, I mean, I sound so like much like a prude, but I didn't ever really like get drunk.

I don't believe you. On the Bachelorette, part 8, 100%. I did. I would like to think I wouldn't get drunk in those situations. If you really go into these situations thinking, like, I want to find love, which is how I feel about a first date too. Like, I'm not trying to get hammered and like manufacture these feelings in my head

that don't exist because I'm so drunk. Yeah. Yeah, 100% with the limited amount of time. Like I think, you know, some other different shows, you might feel like more loose and you're on like a face-to-face date. But like, yeah, when the stakes are so high, you only have a few hours with these people. Exactly.

I feel like one of the highlights of the whole show in the pods was Barnett and like all these women. You know, we had like the three kind of contenders. Were you a no shade, but were you surprised at all with how, were you surprised at all that him and Amber were the final couple? From like what you saw from in the house and what, you know? Kind of. Yeah, in a sense. Yeah, I did. I mean, I just, I definitely got the like player vibes from Barnett. That's why I didn't continue dating him myself because I was like, I'm not here to dick around.

Like, I'm here to like really figure shit out. So, you know, I got that player vibe from him and I was like, whatever. He's probably just like a fun friend, you know, kind of thing. But with them, yeah, I mean, it was very surprising that it, lasted just because of what, you know, my initial, like, impression, but then also with the girls. And, like, Jessica, again, being a friend of mine, like, she would have conversations

with me. And I'm like, he's having these, he's having the same fucking conversation with every one of you. Like, like, wait, what? Like, he wants to get married. Like, I was just very, like, and again, no shade. It was just a very confusing

point in my brain, basically. I was like, wait, what? And, but I mean, it's cool that they've like that they're you know obviously they were a match little made in heaven and they hit it off and I don't know I don't even I don't know I got I'm just off them on Instagram like crazy I think that they're like so quirky and silly I don't know I mean I think it's very easy to put a relationship on social media make it look a certain way but um I think they're like genuine they say and matched yeah yeah they do silly and quirky together yeah they do and like I mean obviously we haven't hung out or

anything, but like at the reunion, they were cool, like normal, natural people and obviously, you know, so very genuine relationship, it seems like. But again, I don't know it very well. Okay, we have final question. Then we're going to wrap with you, let you plug your stuff. This is the most burning question of all. Do you feel like the pods prepared you for quarantine? Yes. Again, that was a long time ago, but I just had to ask you because it is so funny that we're talking to you while we're like literally in quarantine. Yeah. No, I, I mean, yes, I do think that they prepared us. I mean, granted, yes, we can like actually see each other.

But like that human touch, like you guys were saying at the very beginning, you know, it's like you don't want to touch people and like just the whole like, you know, just the coronavirus in general. If you're around people, it's like you're craving that like affection and just a human touch just to have your like someone's hand on your back. Like just yeah. And we're not even in it. Like we're week one.

Like it's about to get fucking crazy. But Kelly, thank you so much. We are going to wrap up with you. So plug all your stuff. You know, you have a business that people can use your services and just your Instagram, everything. People want to hear all the things.

Absolutely. Thanks. Yeah, thanks. Thank you guys so much for having me on here. But yeah, so I'm a health and empowerment coach. Obviously,

I've taken a lot of my challenges. And, you know, through me working with a mindset coach myself, I've now been able to take what I've learned and gift it back to the clients that I work with, the women that I work with and help them overcome their behavior patterns, their beliefs, limiting stuff, like all that and their fears and get them just to a really nice, healthy place in their, you know, mentally, socially, emotionally, all the things, financially even. But yeah, you could find me.

And physically, your health and fitness. Physically, yes, yeah, exactly. But yeah, I don't, I do not have a website right at the moment. It's under construction, so it can't take it there. You got time. I know, I do. I do. But yeah, you can, I would say, you know, go to my Instagram.

It's at Chase Life with Kelly. And I have obviously a bio link there. You can go and request to join my Facebook group. It's also called Chase Life with Kelly. So if you're only a Facebook user, then head over there and request to join. And we do some awesome stuff as far as like just free trainings, educational stuff, obviously women empowerment and all the things.

So we need a lot of online entertainment now. Yes. Yeah, we do. We definitely do. Okay. Well, thank you. I mean, this is one of my favorite shows. Ashley and I like stayed inside in Australia to watch this to watch you.

It's such a pleasure to have you with us. We're really excited that you did this. Yeah. Thank you ladies. I appreciate it. All right. Kelly, well, we will talk. And Kelly, we didn't even say you are a fan of the podcast.

Yeah. Oh, 100%. Yes, I'm a fan of the podcast. Definitely. I mean, honestly, like, my favorite part of the podcast is listening to you girls laugh, because your laughs are both extremely infectious. Your laughs great, too. You're one of my, like, favorite laughers. I love it. All right, guys, well, we are wrapping up with Kelly. Just stick around. We'll be back. Just the two of us. We're going to do a little fun quarantine-related segment for you. All right. Guys, we're back with Just Us. We hope you enjoyed the interview.

We're going to do a little segment right now. We're trying to do the, I love these crowdsour segments. You guys are so fun. And Ashley came up with this because we're all at home just going to these crazy Google holes. So how did you come up with this? It was in the Facebook group. I get so many of these ideas from our Facebook group. Ashley's the queen of Facebook group. I'm the mom in the group. I'm their mom.

I say, hi, girls, it's mom when I had to tell them something. So some girl wrote a thread. The threads in the Facebook group are so funny, but some girl posted. I want to know the rabbit holes. you've gone down during the rabbit holes during the during the quarantine. So this segment is basically like rabbit holes, pandemic depths of the internet. Like I mean, someone sent me on Twitter the craziest conspiracy theory. You might have seen this.

It's the same conspiracy theory people like Q anon or whatever that they think that all these celebrities are involved in like a pedophilia ring and all that shit. It's probably like Pizza Gate. But there's this whole thing of like how Tom Hanks and was about to get arrested for pedophilia and not everybody. It was wild. She sent it to me on Twitter. I read it. I was like, do you ever like start reading those conspiracy theories and like start to see it? Like I'm not saying. Yeah, every time.

I mean, I think that I forget the name. There is like a theory that says like if you want to believe anything, there's enough information. I'm not like a hot day. If you want to leave anything, there's enough information in the world that will make you believe this. So like, just like Michael Moore did the 9-11 movie that convinced you all these conspiracy theories, like you could do the opposite movie. It convinced people of different theories. I mean, there's a million theories why J. F. K got who shot.

JFK, you know, you could really be convinced of anything. But I like this. And I was going to tell you what my Google hole was. No, we got to say ours. Yeah. My weirdest Google hole this week is deep diving into all of David Foster's wives. Do you know who David Foster is? Well, is the, what the Hadid's mom, one of his wives? One of his wives. So he is a really famous music producer. He's produced for tons of people like John Legend. He's the top, top, top. I mean, he's like a crazy millionaire. He's had five wives. He's married to Catherine McPhee right now. Right, who was like so much younger. 40 years his junior.

But he's also married all these people. And all this crazy. So he was married, he was married to Gigi Hadid's mother. So he was the stepfather, Gigi and Bella Hadid. But he also was married to Linda Thompson, who is Brody Jenner's mother. And then she was married, of course, to Bruce Jenner,

who was married to the Kardashians. And so there's all this like crazy inviting. And then like I went crazy into like Hubella and Gigi Houdid's dad is like Muhammad Hadeen. And he's had all these wives and all these kids. And all these people are like crazy and trickily involved in each other's lives. So I just really went super hard on David Foster. Well, it is kind of crazy. Like do they all just stay in the same circle?

Like the whole circle of Travis Scott and Black China and like all the Kardashians, the kids, all the people that they dated and married and had kids with and whatever. Like it's all intertwined. It's like very weird. I just think these like... These are luminati shit. These all those like ultra-rich,

like Hollywood elite people like probably just know each other. Yeah, I know. But it's weird when it's like so close like that. Like all that. I didn't realize so much of that with the... Was it Charlie Scott and Black China and like all a... And then Tyga.

Tyga. So I'm talking about Tyga. Yeah. I pretty much just been deep diving on video clips of daddy Cuomo and his brother, Chris Cuomo. I'm so obsessed. Have you watched these compilations of them, like, joking back and forth and roasting each other on CNN? No, you know, their dad is like a daddy too.

Like, their dad's fucking old. He's got to be 80. But Andrew Cuomo, Daddy Cuomo, our nation's president, that's my president. He, you know, his brother is an anchor on CNN. So, like, he has his own show. So they go back and forth. And it's always like, well, did you call mom? Like, they always are like, my mom's favorite.

What Chris told Andrew, he had a banana hand. and like you can't, like, they just go back and forth and someone compiled them all together. So then I started doing deep dives and like any spank-bank material I could get on the Cuomo brothers. Chris Cuomo is fucking hot. I love watching him. He is hot.

We know I love a big head. I love men with giant heads. Yeah. Same. All right. Are we going to get into this? Yeah. Okay.

Okay. These are your crowdsourced Instagram. We asked you on Instagram for your pandemic deep dives. So just first up, Jenny Jones. It's your friend, Jenny Jones, submitted one of the funniest. It was Kelly's friend. Kelly's ties in perfectly. I met Jenny through Kelly. Oh, she was at the wedding. She's the wedding. I forgot that. I really just want to know what Ewan McGregor has been up to. Girl, same. You and which one is he? He's not the UFC fighter. That's calling it. No, he's an actor. I can see him in my head. He's Irish. I don't know. I don't know.

I love this too, that some people took it in terms of like, who are you stalking? which is a deep dive. My ex's new girlfriend is private on Instagram, went through her Venmo history, found her friends, and stalked them to find photos of her. I respect it. It's not even that crazy.

I have gone to depths of the internet that are way fucking crazy or just to find my ex's new girlfriends. Yeah. Oh my God. This is funny because I don't know why you... What's funny to me is people like diving into things that like you're never going to need to know how to do.

How to fillet a 200 pound yellowfin tuna. I saw that. one on here. All right, I'll do a marine life one. She Googled what happens to whales during a tsunami. I know. I saw that. Oh, we asked for y'all's Google searches too. That's why we asked for all the things. Okay. I'm researching why some people fake their accent. Jessica from love is blind. She has two voices. You don't understand. I like how to feel dead. She's just like, you can't love your mom anymore. And Burnett's sexy. And also, I'm going to feed those dogs some wine. And then when they talk to her on like the confessional style,

she is this really great adult voice. It's very weird. Okay. I love this one. I just love the way she wrote it. I found every member of the Dugger family that has Instagram. It's taken hours of my life. I actually should go on that deep dive because I don't know anything about the Dugger family.

And I feel like I'm missing out on like a real part of pop culture. These are just so some like really funny like celebrity things. Shania Twain's relationship history. I love it. She just wrote wild. All right. Page 67 on Porn Hub or as they've dubbed themselves, Stay Home Hub.

Is there stay home, stay home porn? I think that they just, what do they just mean like you should? No, is there quarantine? Is there porn porn porn porn? Corn porn. Corporn.

There it is. Pandemic porn. This girl has deep dove into reviews of the Squatty potty. I live for that shit. When people review. stuff like that, it's the best thing on the internet. Like reviews of funny products like that are iconic. Well, you know, if you ever I sent you the Haribo sugarless gummy bears,

have you ever seen this? If you guys want something to do this afternoon, go on Amazon and read reviews for Haribo sugarless gummy bears. Thousands, people stormed the internet. They were like, I wouldn't give this to my worst enemy. It makes your butt explode. It's like napalm coming out of your butt. You'll break the toilet.

It is so funny. There's articles about it. Google it. BuzzFeed an article about it. It's a sterile. Oh, my God. Okay, I love that someone just gave us some facts. Although awkward on land,

beavers can run up to 34 miles per hour. What? I never saw that coming. A beaver can run 30 miles an hour? Under what, how do they test this theory? Like, under what circumstance is a beaver running 35 miles per hour? Shook.

Oh my God. This is kind of sad, but it made me laugh. I googled how to give yourself a hug. I think we learned that in school, but anyway, this one, I can relate. I did this too. She said, I actually watched the full Kanye and Taylor phone call. I went on the steep dive, trolled Kim a little bit, fuck the Kardashians. I hate what they did to Taylor Swift. Also, you know they leaked that full video themselves, even though it made Kim look like a lying asshole. They leaked it to promote their fucking show. You know, I didn't even realize that until you told me that. I was, I just want to

plug myself again. I was on my exercise bike today. And Ashley told me that I was like, like, oh, of course they did this. It's disgusting. They don't care. They'll light their whole lives on fire just to promote the season. They all will. You know that they leaked that. Like, it doesn't matter.

Like, Kim Kardashian's famous from a sex tape. She doesn't give a fuck. And, like, I just can't forget that, like, what they did, what Kanye did to Taylor Swift at the, at the VMAs, wasn't enough that then they, they bullied her into giving them an okay so he could make these misogynistic lyrics about her. The wax figure, I forgot about that. I forgot about that photo of.

Kim taking a picture of Taylor Swift's wax figure that she didn't consent to. It's horrible what they did that girl. Also, if you guys were home, watch a Taylor Swift documentary, it's phenomenal. If you haven't, what are you doing with your life? Okay, this couple I love because, you know, I can picture this conversation. Like, I can see them having it.

My fiance and I Googled the difference between a deck patio balcony and porch. Because my feeling is that they talked about it for like an hour first. You know what I mean? Like they had that they talked about it between themselves while they're out sitting on their patio. And then they were like, let's just Google it.

Okay. To me, I'm going to hypothesize. And then I'm going to Google it. A deck is out back. Because I was thinking what's the difference between a porch and a deck? Porches are in the front. Decks in the back. I think.

No, back porch. Fuck. No. Okay. But it doesn't have to be an absolute. To me, though, a deck is always out back. You don't have a front deck. Decks always out back.

Okay, decks in the back. You're right. Balcony is obviously always elevated. Yeah. Patio. I think a patio is on the ground to me. So like a porch and a deck are like a structure that's built, a patio on the ground. Patios at sea level. Raina has her pen out, you guys. I wrote it down. I was like, I want to forget all four of these. She's working through this in real time. I'm like that meme with all the numbers around the person's head.

The red string. Oh, here's one. Tom Hanks is a pedophile who is outed by Epstein and he's faking COVID. That's what it was. So the whole conspiracy, sorry, basically starts with Jeffrey Epstein. Okay. It's a whole thing. Google Q anon-COVID conspiracy.

It's fucking bananas. Anyway, all right. If you die, we're in contacts, do they take them out? Ooh. I don't know why they wouldn't take them out. But I guess I don't know why they would take them out. Right. Like what's what?

What are you going to do about it? She's not going to tell us the answer. Okay. All right. Oh, my gosh. Been naming my house plants, March Madness style on IG polls, riveting content.

She's having like a bracket. How do you get to the next bracket? Is my question, though. Like, do you die? The plan has to die. Oh, my God. This girl said, live streaming cooking shows

with cum as the secret ingredient. I don't know, though. What? Is it a thing? There's like a master chef come or what's the one where they give you the ingredients, cum's the secret ingredient? Top chef big loads. Top chef. Top chef. Top chef spit or swallow.

Sick. Top chef huge loads. Master chef loads of cum. Also, there's a new top chef season. Guys, check it out. Hot plug alert. Oh, this girl said she met a guy on a blind Zoom date who thinks 9-11 was a hoax. How do you...

All right. Yeah. If you guys have a deep dove on Britney Spears, like, I'm not going to say anything bad. I do not like to talk shit on her. I'm not going to do it on a public forum. I'll do it with you privately. If you have not seen her Instagram, stop listening to us. We don't care.

We're done. We're almost done. Get over there. I got to tell you, yesterday she posed this thing. It's a video. She's like looking off into the distance. And it's a video of like somebody's sneaking up behind her. But she turns inside and clearly sees the person behind her,

acknowledges it, turns back around and the person touched to her. And she's like, ah! Like, it's clearly staged. Like you see her see the person come up behind her. She's amazing. She, you know, there's a whole theory. She just like, it's a whole celebrity theory of they stop growth at their peak of fame. So like she,

that's why she dresses like she does because her peak of fame was in what the early 2000s or not saying that she's not famous still and you know the Vegas stuff was great then now there's Britney World all that stuff but in terms of like her being like the actual star on top of the world was like at that time and so she didn't progress past it

in terms of like her voice and her fashion and like she acts like a little kid anyway. I mean I'm tremendous sympathy for all these people I mean she's bad shit crazy but I'm tremendous sympathy for people that were thrown into the spotlight all this money every person around you want something from you at such a young age. How could you ever be normal? Yeah, normal again. It's a tricky word. But like, yeah, same thing with any famous kid. Justin Bieber included

anybody. Like he's probably on the more okay of the spectrum. I think he's a little bad shit too. But like famous kids are, I mean, Amanda Bynes just that's a whole rabbit hole famous kids and where are they now? This one's good. This was good. How much my ex-boyfriend's new girlfriend and bought her house for. She writes hashtag public records. I said, if you think Ashley and I have been driven past the

homes of people that we used to date, you're fucking crazy because we have. I'm not ashamed of it. We're all the same. We all do this. I hate myself for this. A couple years ago I slept this guy who wanted nothing to do with me, but he

lived right near me. So I would just like walk up and down his street. every couple of dates when I was taking a walk. Like, I look really pretty and I'd go take a walk. Yeah, it's crazy. Look, we've all done crazy things. But we all do crazy stuff, but like people are stalking us the same way. You know what I mean?

Like, we all do it. Like, guys that I dated, like, their current girlfriends have stalked me. Like, if I, the next person I date, his exes are going to stalk me. Like, we all do it. It's just, it's like, so standard female behavior. I'm sorry. I just started this thing. I'm going to tell you.

Go ahead. Well, two of them. One of this girls said that I've been pricing trampolines on the internet. This made me laugh. But this one, how to tell your boyfriend he's chubby. Bitch, go for a run with him. How do you?

That's tough. I think it's really tough. And I think a lot of couples probably now, we're going to deep dive more into like couples, but probably a lot of couples now are like trying to start to hit that mark where like all you've done is snack. I'm putting a moratorium on. snacking in my home. But we're all getting a little thicker right now. And so yeah, I mean,

sometimes you're just like, all right, I used to be sexually attracted to you. I want to, you know, get our sex life up again. I don't know. It's not, there's not an easy way. I think, I think the best way to do it is to mirror the behavior. So if you want your partner to work out, eat more healthy, I think you have to volunteer to also do that stuff. Yeah, I think when he's on top of you, you just start being like, oh, you're crushing me. The rudest thing. I'm sorry, that's getting funnier as I'm thinking about. The rudest thing I probably ever said during sex. I said it this week.

No, last week. What? Oh my God, what? I was just getting fucked so slow. And I was like trying to be like sexy about it. And I was like, fuck me harder.

Fuck me harder. And then I was just like so defeated. And I was like, can you just fuck me like you mean it or stop? Oh. Oh, fuck me like you mean it is brutal. I think I've said that before. I mean,

you can say it in a sexy way. I did not say it a sexy way. I said it in a rude way. Wait, this is so funny. I got to know more. We're going to check in with her. Raina's chubby pussy proclamation sent my boyfriend and I on a weird adventure. Yeah. So I saw that and I was thinking like, what is the weird adventure? Like, were they going back for all of my photos and zooming in on my vagina and being

like, that? I never thought that. That is the first thing I thought. If you guys don't know, I referenced my vagina being chubby. It is. There's a little bit of cushion for the cushion. And I, it's a great vagina. wait, is Ashley still casually seen that guy? That's funny. There's nowhere to dive. There is never

anything posted. No, we're not. I talked about last week. No one's still dating. No one that's been dating a person for a few months is still dating. So much Tiger King, obviously, but we already talked about that. Illuminati stuff. Mormon mommy bloggers. Okay, also guys, we wanted to plug

her. Kate Kennedy while we're I was like, you know a Mormon mommy blocker? Nobody deep dives better. Nobody. Nobody. She is three-hour podcast, which I guess we do now too. No, I think her podcast are like two hours. nobody does better deep dives on Instagram stories and in her podcast than Kay Kennedy, which is Be There in Five. We have an episode with her titled So Why Aren't You Married Yet?

I can't believe I just pulled that out of my ass. And she's a friend of ours. We went to her live show. We're obsessed with her. She lives in Chicago. She did, I think, a two-part series on Mormon mommy bloggers. She deep-dives on sororities. She deep dives on Taylor Swift.

But, like, her podcast is really heavily deep dives in general. so it's like no better time to binge it than now. I mean, she's somebody who has picked something that you would think is like sort of like bottom of the barrel, like pop culture stuff and makes it so like high intelligence. Everything she says, I'm like, I thought that, but I could have never articulated it the way that you have. I thought myself, I will watch 50 Instagram story slides of her.

She is unbelievable. I'll listen to anything she has to say. The episode was, I want to say May 2019. Okay. I'm looking for it. And she just like, again, she's way more articulate and eloquent than, us. When you read her stuff, she may be talking about pop culture and she may be talking about

Taylor Swift and their Kardashians or whatever, but you honestly feel smarter after you read it. Like, it's like reading a well-written book. I mean, she has a book also. It's called Twinkle, twinkle, twinkle, social media star. I mean, I can't plug her enough because I just feel like this is the time to, because she's even said it. Like, I know my podcasts aren't for everybody because they're so long and they're so involved. But like what time like right now? Find new hobbies. Find three-hour podcast. I was a little jealous and you guys first started becoming friends, but then I was like, oh, I'm kind of obsessed with her too. And her live show was great. Yeah, she's, we went to her first one in New York,

and she's doing more. So whenever that starts back up again. All right, that's probably enough, right? That's a good time to wrap up. Yeah, I think this three hour episode is pretty much over. Thank you guys for all the stuff do you submit. Wait, one more since Tom Hanks came up. I did not know about his son, Chitt. Oh, there's two sons. Yeah, but Colin and Chet. But When Chet posted that Twitter video, like updating everybody on him and Rita Wilson, I had no idea Chet Hanks existed. He was shirtless covered in tattoos. I was like, who is this guy from Tampa that's allegedly Tom Hanks' son?

I saw this meme that like the names really matter. And like no two people have like lived up to their means than like uptight, really like purse slipped Colin Hanks and Chet. Yeah, like that that meme was so funny that it was like, she called it something. I forget some big word that Kate Kennedy would probably use. But basically when you, like you name a person Tammy and she, you know, you name somebody Karen and they turn into a Karen or, you know, whatever.

You name somebody Ashley and their bitch. Never fails. Depends on the spelling of Ashley. There's a million different spellings. It's okay. Let's wrap this up. Guys, thank you so much for listening. If you're here at the very end, you made it through.

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