Girls Gotta Eat - Perks of Sex Toys and Short Guys with Sally Cotching

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

It's a spicy one full of sex toys, dating advice, and taboo questions answered. We're joined by our Head of Product for Vibes Only and sex toy expert Sally Cotching, and are sharing what it's really like to run a sexual wellness company, from designing vibrators to product testing to recruiting penises for r&d. AND we're debuting our three new products, including one highly anticipated drop that will take your intimacy to the next level (literally). We're also answering questions like "Can I get addicted to my vibrator?", "How do I introduce toys into the bedroom with a partner?" and "Does my pussy need a skincare routine?" But it's not all about Vibes; we're also chatting with Sally about her dating history (including a rough breakup) and the experiment and strategy that led her to find her current boyfriend. She also opens up about dating someone who is grieving and knowing how and when to wait if they aren't ready for a relationship, and we're discussing why the height filter could be holding you back from finding your person. Before Sally joins us, Ashley reveals an ongoing saga between her and her roommate, Rayna reflects on her best summer ever, and we discuss couples who prank each other. Enjoy! Follow Sally on Instagram at @sallycotching, and shop the products we've created at vibesonly.com. Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Quince: Get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order at https://quince.com/gge. Rocket Money: Cancel your unwanted subscriptions at https://rocketmoney.com/gge. Nutrafol: Get $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping at https://nutrafol.com with code GGE10. Liquid IV: Get 20% off your first order at https://liquidiv.com with code GGE. Cakes Body: Get 20% off your first order at http://cakesbody.com with code GGE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You really have to think about using a sex toy, any sex toy as like, it's part of a workout routine. Your whole life, you wouldn't just do the same five exercises. This podcast is a Dear Media production. Hi, guys. Hi, guys. Welcome back to another episode of Girls Gotta Eat. E-A-G-L-E-S eagles. I was like, what should do?

It's Eagles season. I forgot to mention it on the snack last week. Which was the NFL season opener. If you are hearing this, we're. We beat the Cowboys. Love to say it. If they lost, we will be taking this out. Oh, it hasn't happened.

No, it says tomorrow. I am so amped. As we record, it's tomorrow. So anyway, hope we started the season with a win. We are America's team. You know what's hard for me. New merch? I love and hate.

The Cowboys, because you and I love the cheerleaders, but I dated that guy who worked with the Cowboys, and he is the worst, so I can't root for them. So, I mean, obviously, I'll root for the Eagles, always. We love the show. about the cheerleaders, but we never got the cheerleaders at one of our shows. Just the drumline? So I don't have, we did as a drumline.

You're right. They were pretty great. We didn't have the cheerleaders. Kelly never responded to my email. So, like, I have, like, a real loyalty to a lot of these teams that we've had their cheerleaders and drumlines. Of course. Yeah, we've never had America's Sweethearts on our shows.

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And thank you to Liquid Ivy. Get 20% off your first order at Liquidiv.com with code GGEE and Cake's Body. Get 20% off your first order at cakesbody.com with code GGEE. Okay. So we have new vibes only products launching. We are so excited to talk about them. today. We have an incredible guest. She is part of our team with Vibes Only. She develops our products with us and we'll chat with her about the products and we'll debut them for you guys. And we're

also going to talk about her story and dating and she has a lot to share. And it's just a really special episode. I cannot wait to release these toys because I have been masturbating with our new toy every day. It's my favorite thing. I cannot wait to get this out into the world. And we'll tell you about during the episode. I know. I cannot wait. You guys will see. I'm so excited. Yes. So we're so excited about it. But It's officially fall. We mentioned this on the snack last week. And we were just talking about our summer.

And we had a great summer and just sharing our highlights. I think this was my best summer ever. You had a great summer. I had a great summer. Well, you know, this is my theme of my year. And I'm doing it. So I enjoyed my shit. I went to Europe.

I got to spend time with my nephew, which is just like the most special. And just like get to know them a little better. I went to the Hamptons. I spent over a month in New York. I just, I had the best summer. I just loved it. We had great weather. And I saw lots of our friends and celebrated my 40th birthday.

with like all of our friends and went on your bachelor's party and it just was like a great summer. Yeah, it was. It was a really good summer. And we were just talking about like some of the stories and the highlights. And I'm going to share a story that's really dominated my whole summer. And it's been more of an inside joke with the friends, but I'm going to share it with the world. And this is something that's been happening around the house with my fiancee and me. So this started probably early summer, maybe late spring months now ongoing saga for months so we do these meal kits sometimes I'm using sunbasket if you guys are listening hit us up we love a sponsorship so we had this meal and it came with an egg or two and it came in this little carton the mini carton for two eggs so cute have you

ever seen this before no I didn't have this existed I thought it was six or 12 or nothing right so this little two And I had seen this before, maybe in a previous meal kit, or I think you could buy two eggs in the store. Whatever. My fiance thought it was so funny and so cute. And he was like, I've never seen that. I was like, I know. It's like really adorable. And he was like, that's such a funny way to do eggs.

And he like couldn't get over it. And so as we were like wrapping up the meal and throwing out the trash and stuff, it was sitting up on the counter. Like he wanted to save it. And I was like, can you hand me that? I'm going to throw in the trash. He was like, I'm going to save that. And the theme of a lot of our interactions, I don't know if he's fucking. with me. And I'm like, you're not saving that. He was like, I'm going to save it. I was like,

you're serious? He was like, I think it's like so cute and funny. I'm going to save it. I was like, okay. You guys are sentimental. Everything in my house goes in the trash. So he, it stays up on the counter for days and I'm sick of looking at it. And again, I was like, babe, but can I throw this out? And he was like, no, I'm saving it. And so I put it up in his room. And I don't know if I've talked about this like at length or made a full announcement. He is like his room where he has like all of his stuff. A full announcement. I don't know. that I announced that we have separate rooms. Well, we share a bed every night.

Like, we share a bedroom, but he has a room with, like, all of his stuff. And it works out great for us. I think it's great for couples. I what a dream if you've separate bathrooms. Their stuff can be in another room. Like, this is the key to a long-term relationship. I mean, it is our guest room. So when people come, it has to be all cleaned up and there's space for everything.

But when we don't have a guest, like, there's shit everywhere. Like, if we did get in a fight and he wanted to sleep in that bed, he'd have to take an hour to cleared off because it's like covered in his clothes and all of his stuff whatever that room is like kind of a disaster so i put it up in his room i put it on his dresser and i don't think anything of it maybe about a week later we're getting into bed and i pull back my comfort in my sheet and there it is hadn't thought about it put it away out of my mind it's in my bed our bed as you have to be kidding me so i just like tucked it away and i tucked it back into the bed no i was like i'm gonna hold onto this and put it somewhere for him next. So you don't acknowledge this. No, I don't acknowledge it.

I was like, I'm going to, I'm like, it's my turn now. Okay. So I think that first time I put it by the toilet or something like I put the toilet seat up and I put it like behind like right, you know, where you'd like put the toilet seat down, you'd see it. Okay. So I think that's where I put it. Now starts this egg cart and battle back and forth. Sometimes I would address it and laugh and sometimes we wouldn't and like the person that found it would just go put it like somewhere else. And this isn't like daily, but we go back and forth like a couple times and then some time passes and I feel like the egg carton is kind of out of our lives. I was like maybe it's over. I certainly wasn't thinking about it. I am on my tour all summer and I get to a tour stop.

I think it was D.C. I open it my suitcase. It's there. And this is at which point you'd start to be honest and bring other people into it and let us know this is happening. Yeah. So I told you and Sally, or the only two people that know about this, and she's our guest today. So it's been this thing with the three, of us where I've been like telling you guys where it resurfaces. This is when I really decided he was super funny. So I've known him for years, obviously. I've always thought he was funny.

But this is when I was like, he's like on our level now. So I could not believe he got me to take this across the country. I couldn't believe it was in my suitcase. And now you have to bring it back. Yes. He's giving you a chore. So I put it somewhere after that. And the next big one was it was in my.

my laundry, my dirty laundry. So I'm like, have my dirty laundry basket downstairs doing laundry and I'm taking out dirty clothes and like under a bunch of the clothes wedged in the dirty laundry. That is risky. But I have to take it out to kind of separate things. So he knows how I do laundry. You are a little bit more. So it's in my laundry basket.

I was like, this is crazy. So I go and put it in his car. I actually was wondering at which point it was going to be in a car. So I go out because I was already down there, like the garage, the basement. I go out and I put it in his car. I kind of like wedge it in the door, like where you'd grab the door handle. And the next day, he goes, where's the egg garden? And I was like, what do you mean?

He was like, where did it go? I was just like curious. And he was like, did you find it your laundry? I was like, yeah, I found it. And I was like, babe, I put it in your car. You know, I did. And he was like, no, you didn't. And he was like, what do you put in my car?

He was like, I must have accidentally run over it or it. Or it must have blown out the window or something like that. And so I was just like, you're kidding. You can't be serious. Like, there's no way. You got into the car and you saw it. He was like, no, I didn't. I swear to God.

He was like, I muster ran over it. His car was in the garage when you put it on the thing. It was in the garage. Yeah. So I'm like, I know he's fucking with me. But he would not admit it. And weeks went by. Weeks.

Three weeks. Three weeks went by. Last week, I was going to do one of my outside workouts. I have an outside workout mat. And I had my inside workout mat. Raina, I went to get my workout. out mat. And it had been weeks since I had worked out, like, outside in a specific way. It's in the yoga mat, wrapped up in the mat. I was like, you have to be kidding. My campus is, like,

wrapped up in this yoga mat. That's how you know what you've been worked out in weeks. Yeah. So I was like, okay, what's my next play? And we were going to grill out that night. So I put it in the grill. Amazing honey spot. So the grill has a cover on it, lifted up the cover, put it in the grill. So he found it in the grill. And then, I was like, I think we're done. This has to end. It's been all summer. I never want this to end.

And I found it in my suitcase when we went to Catalina. He double-sucased. I mean, he's getting, he's getting lazy. But he's like, I think he likes that moment where I find it in the suitcase. In front of him. I don't know. He doubled suitcase. And I love it.

So. Do you think there's a way we could get it to his office? Well, now he's going to find out about this. this show. I'll make sure he doesn't listen. I'll block it. I think it'd be funny. Like a place. At his desk. Like you and I couldn't possibly have gotten into, but like we get it to his desk. Yes.

100%. Oh my God. We have to do this. I'm going to get in touch with one of his co-workers. You have to. I want it on his desk. I'll do it. I'll do it myself. I'll take it there. I have something else on my sleeve. I'm obviously not going to say it. A grand finale. We're going to keep

it after that too. But I am excited for the finale. And are you guys Do you guys prank each other? This is the most that we're doing like a prank. I don't know. Like I guess sometimes we might scare each other around the house. I love to scare him if I can. But this is like our main prank.

I love prank videos so much. Like Jackie and I on Saturday night were supposed to go to this party downstairs in the house. We were staying in bed watching fart prank videos for like hours. People came upstairs like, what are you guys doing? I was laughing. I thought my eyeballs were going to come out of their sockets. But I don't want to be pranked.

I don't think I'd be like cool about it. But you'd like this. This isn't like a prank because this isn't going to startle you or in any way. I mean, I've seen couples do like water balloons filled with stuff like paintball style. Like I've seen couples that like I could never. And if that's what you're into, that's fine. But like this trend is going around on TikTok and it was like, I feel rich because

this is my husband kind of thing. Have you seen this? Oh, no. It's cute. But one I saw was just my nightmare. This man, like, picked up his wife and he threw her in the pool at their wedding. He smashed cake in her face. Like, it was crazy.

This couple was, like, gave me anxiety. They, like, like, like, like to do that kind of stuff. They're really rough with each other. Like, the cake smash, I can't. That's not a prank to me. That's just ruining my day. Yeah, but they both like it. Like, she posted this.

Okay, my two favorite prank videos that I watch are, like, just montages of people. Like, when your man walks in the door, you're laying on the floor with, like, your head, sticking out of a doorway. Like you're dead? Like you're dead. No. You got to watch them. They're so funny.

If somebody did this to me, I would not be cool about it. I don't know if I like that, like pretending you're hurt. I did it once when I was a kid and I got in trouble. Dead. Dead. It is really funny. A friend of mine and I did this when we were younger and we, like, got in trouble and trouble. Like, I think they called her house.

Like, it was her family. Okay, well, if that's not for you, the other one I really like is when there's like a stuffed animal or something. Usually stuffed animal or a doll. If you have children, tie a string to it and then film them. And just kind of like move the doll a little from the doll a little from by the string and like they kind of like take notice of it and then you like totally move the doll like you yank that string people lose their minds people jump over couches they spill everything that

they have they like break their computer it's it's my favorite video okay all right i'll check these out strong again if anybody did this to me i've never again yeah i'd be curious let us know in the youtube comments if you guys have any little pranks or jokes around the house but yeah this is our main one but this could go on forever who's to say i hope it does We could be dying together in hospice, and the nurse brings in the egg carton. There's jello in it. We're not having kids. We have to find ways to entertain ourselves.

To find joy. To find joy. Yeah. I have never been more solidified in not wanting children than this summer. Every day I just got up and went, you know? Yeah. And that's how I'm trying to live. Yeah.

But I know, but I feel the same way, not that I, there was ever any question, but also just had so much fun with my nephews and the kids this summer. So it's nice to be able to appreciate that and love these children and also be like, not for me. But anyways, I am looking forward to the fall and all the stuff we have coming up and your wedding. And I have fall goals now too. Okay. My fall goals is that I am going to go to the doctor. I'm going to go to the gyno.

I'm going to change my IUD to the one where you don't get your period. Okay. That's my first goal. I'm going to go to your dentist. I'm going to get like that gum thing done. Not the same one as you less than 10. Yeah. There was another doctor.

I had to go to. Oh, probably just Botox. But I'm going to make doctor's appointments. That feels like a fall thing to do. Okay. Yeah, I was kind of in that era when I turned 40 where I was like I got to get this stuff handled. Not that there was anything wrong, but like I need to get checked out. Yeah, I'm just going to, I got to get a tune up everywhere. I like that goal for your fall tune up. I do need to schedule like my Dr. Barrett appointments and what I want to do before the wedding. Like, I don't know. I've thought about like a little bit of filler. I haven't had filler in years and that but not was it. No, hard no. I'm not going to let you do this. Every time you say you might want to get filler and then I'm like, I'm just going to let her fly. And then you're like, I don't know if

I like it. He's incredible, but you, I did like the temple filler. Okay. And I do have these holes in my head. Well, I don't know that if weeks before your wedding is the time to take it for a spin. All right. If you look at your wedding photos and you're like, there's holes in my head, we'll edit them. Can you fix these dents in my head? Can you fix my hollow temples? Um, no, but I, don't look at I have been meaning to ask you when you want to go get our Botox done. So that's on my calendar too. And there's September, early October. Okay.

If that lines up. I'm available. I'm going to go to New York and then we're going to Lady World for Florida. I'm just, I'm trying to spend more time in New York. Yeah. So Lady World, we're going to link that on our website. Girls Gottaeat.com. So you guys can get over to Lady World.

That's going to be September 26th through the 28th. Our show is going to be the 26th. So Lady World in Miramar Beach, Florida. And then while we're here, I have Philly shows. A few tickets left. That's going to be September 24th. A few tickets left for that. And you can check my stuff out at ashes.com.

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She's just the warmest, most wonderful person. You guys will get to know her today. We are just so lucky to work with her. And I'm going to read you something she wrote about herself. She is the behind the scenes product design expert who can switch between discussing the shape of a butt plug, the merits of suction toys, and business strategy in the same breath. A truth. We love her so much.

She is truly just such an amazing value add to our company. please welcome to the show sally cotching thank you oh my gosh i'm really excited to be here sally's australian if you guys could tell yeah that's not a fake accent it's a real accent can you imagine we're like put the accent on we're gonna love it i mean i've been putting this act on for four years with you guys it's sexy it adds to your alert as a sex to a person great sally we want to like get to know you yeah with our audience so i think a good place to start is like how long you you worked in this industry and how you came to work with us and know of us and how we built this business together. So can we talk a little bit about it? Yeah, definitely. I mean, I've been in this

industry for nearly seven years now, which is crazy. It feels like I don't know my life before. How are you even old enough to? I'm sorry. People say that about at tree school. Yeah. They're like, are you even old enough to masturbate? I started doing Botox at 25. That helps. You've been in the workforce for seven years. Allie doesn't go in the sun. everybody. Yeah, and that's why she's so much clothing on. I'm scared of it. Yeah.

Okay. Too much skin care went into this. So yeah, I was working in the sex toy industry. I've been working in PR for a long time. I took on a sex toy client and I sort of started to turn the sex toy industry into like a lifestyle. I wanted it to be more like a fashion brand where you could picture your toys and extension of your lifestyle, not something that's like sneaky and taboo and something you should be ashamed of. And as I was doing that, you know, other brands started to do that as well.

And I started to get really obsessed with the product. I think it's all about having the right product. No matter how much marketing you do, you're just got to make sure, like, the product is perfect for the audience. So I designed it and I was a big fan of you guys at the time. I'd been listening to you guys for years. Then the pandemic hit. And I heard Ashley had left her vibrator charger.

She was a woman in need. I didn't bring any vibrators. Like I left for, we didn't know we were going to be gone. Yeah, I thought I was going to leave for two weeks. My dad came and picked me up in New York on March 17th, and I was like, see you in two weeks, ma. And so I packed some birth control and some clothes. And I went to the farm in Delaware, and I, like, posted or talked about, we were still recording, obviously, that I did not bring any vibrators. And Sally slid to the DMs.

And I was like, who's this, like, cute girl? And she had said that she had just been to our L.A. show, which was in February of 2020. So right before COVID, we went to Australia after Ali's homeland. And then we came home and like the world shut down. And she was so funny about it. And she sent me some vibrators. And then I remember one time she tagged me and she had the dewy mug and she had put a vibrator in it. And I was like, she's got some marketing ideas over here.

She just got her touch your attention. Totally. I'm so glad I caught your attention. So then I told Raina, I was like, I want to start a sex with a company. I think we should really do this. And I was like, I have this woman. who I think could help us. And I just got an exploratory call with you,

not even with Rayne. I was like, let me just feel her out. You had like a deck, you would pitch me. And I was like, she's the one. You were so, you came so organized. Yeah. And we were just like, anybody that has that attention to detail somebody that we want to work with.

She really, like, surprise pitched me. Yeah, you shot. She came in no loop. I was like, oh, my God. Well, I guess she's our business partner now. Well, anybody who woke up one day and was like, you know, I want to masturbate professional. That's somebody that I want to work with.

You were like, I want to turn masturbating into a lifestyle. It was my true calling. Absolutely. And, you know, I just thought, like, I've got this opportunity to talk to these people who I have listened to for years, who I really admire. And I had really thought through, like, these girls really should have a sex toy. Like, I could see the vision. And I just thought, like, I could talk about it, but I just want to show them. And maybe they'll have the same vision as me.

And it was so funny. We just were aligned on, like, the brand name and, like, the first concept. and I just was so excited that I wanted to make it perfect. I'm sorry, I surprised you, but, you know, it was great. It was like a meeting day one. It was like four years ago, right? It took us about a year to build the company. I think it was like three and a half years ago.

Yeah, like 2021 we started. Yeah. Pretty much a full year and we launched in June 22. Yeah. And you really brought us so much packaging to choose from. And what is the unboxing experience going to be like? And how many toys do we launch? I think we were going to launch with five or six.

to begin with. And then we were like, oh, God, no, too many. And we doubt it back to three. And you just really helped us to formulate the strategy and turn it into more of like a lifestyle brand. Well, it's been so fun working with you guys. You have a real unique point of view and you really understand your audience. So it was actually very easy for me to work with you because you're very clear on your vision. And like the vibes only brand, you just seem to understand exactly what women want. So you make my job very easy. Well, you make our job very fun. because you show up with an arsenal of sex toys. Always.

And it's like, who wants to try this one? Who wants to take this one home? And like, I just, we're talking about this stuff. Obviously, we are light about it and make jokes. But sometimes we have to talk about this stuff very seriously. It's like, oh, well, Raina's going to try that one because Raina's pussy is this. And Ashley's going to try that one. It's just like the funniest job to have.

And then you are like professional reminders, like when you tap us, you're like, I know you guys are busy, but did you have a chance to use the so and so? And it's very funny, like our business background. If you guys pull the curtain back. Like, we're like, okay, it's time to do a butt plug. And Sally will go out and source 15 butt plugs and we'll like lay them out on the table at my house. If you guys have ever seen like videos of us like testing stuff, it's always Sally in the videos. And we'll say like, what is everything we like and don't like about these?

The length, the shape, the size, the feel, everything. And like, then off we go to design something. Well, it's so funny to masturbate and then go into air table and write my notes. Like, it's crazy to like use a little. joy and then immediately put my pants back on and then be like let me go tell everyone how it was and also it can be an inch shorter because my vaginal cavity can't take it you know like that's our business meetings and there's like five or six people on these meetings yeah everyone is waiting for you to masturbate the pressure is on the time i had to use that hard that hard vibrator in the middle

in the middle of a coal there was like a 3D printed prototype and we were like you're just going to have to try it and like we have no time and Ashley's like okay I'm gonna be right back I'll be right back I mean this is the focus group totally you know what what is the hardest has been like our penis designed toys because obviously none of us have a penis so we've had to recruit people that's the crazier part is when all of us all on the call talking about our significant others penis totally that's what's crazy okay you're talking about your boyfriend your fiancee other Ash was talking about her husband. It's crazy that we're asking about their penises.

Well, I was single when we were doing the Richard ring. So that was very stressful because I had to recruit penises in my life. And I wasn't having sex with anybody. So luckily, like every gay man, I took a trip to New York where all my gays were just so they could try it on for me. And I go on a first date and the guy brings up my job and I'm like, I'm so glad you mentioned this because I actually have something that we need to try. I love that. Okay, well, we have lots to talk about today, but while we're here, because I don't want to forget, bringing this up on dates. And you have a boyfriend now and he's wonderful. We will get to it. But you've dated plenty prior to him. And even with him, I'm curious. Like, when do you bring it up? Do you open with it?

Yeah, you know, it is really tricky. There are two schools of guys, I think. The ones who are immediately intimidated by it, kind of shut down about it and they want to be a bit judgmental and you can just feel them. I'll bring it up on the first date because it is my whole life. Like if you get in my car, I have samples in the trunk. Like, I'm not going to be able to keep it a secret from you. You Google my name. It's like the first thing that comes up is like me talking about about play. So good luck. So those kind of guys, they weed themselves out. But I have been like immediately objectified on a date.

Like in the first, you know, 10 minutes I'll say what I do. And they'll be like, oh, so like, what do you personally like to use? And I'm like, I don't even know your last name. I just, I mean, this has been my experience as well. I always go back and forth between bring this up or don't bring it up because people will think of you as you speak about yourself. And the truth is we self-funded a multi-million dollar company. We grew it from the ground up. We did it all by ourselves.

We didn't put our name on someone else's product. We did this by ourselves. That is the crux of what we do. I'm an entrepreneur on a date. But you say sex toys and guys take the liberty a lot of like over-sexualizing you or be playful about it. But I'm also like, well, I don't know. Like, what do you expect? It's a playful fun thing.

and people are going to ask questions and you say I want a sex toy company and like the next questions are going to be a little more spicy and so sometimes I'm like do I bring it up at all? Do I just bring up the podcast? And that's sort of like an afterthought

but you don't have the same opportunity. I don't have that luxury. It is a real filtering system. Remember the guy that ghosted me infamously? Like I met in a show that I crowd the whole thing. I'm not sure if that guy ever existed. I was like, are you okay?

No, I have a picture of his arm and you know it. Frankie. Little Frankies. Frankie? One of the same. Little Frankies. We believe you.

But I remember having this amazing conversation with him about sex toys. And I've on the inverse had weird ones. And it's like, I think that's just how you know. Totally. Yes. And once I've slept with you, then it's fair game. I don't care. We'll talk about it all the time.

I mean, the amount of guys that are like, what do you got in the drawer? Let's bring it out. I just finished having sex the other night. He was like, I want to watch you with a toy. Can you go get one? Like, I was like, we just. wrapped. But like, I think that prior to having sex

somebody, I would hope for a little tact in class. However, if a man told me they owned a sex toy company, I would immediately objectify them. Immediately, why did I just picture the penis model from sex in the city that Samantha, didn't she fuck it? He was the Dillow model in Vegas. He was like the biggest, the biggest dick. He was bald. I'm trying to remember. They used his penis to mold Dildos.

Like, that's what comes to mind. I would ask that. I would be like, do you ever use your own penis to model the toy? Oh, okay. Maybe I'm seeing the bad dates I've been on in a new light. Maybe I'm like, maybe they were just curious. It's just a line and you know when someone's crossed it. And that's all that I can explain it.

Like, if somebody says, like, how do you develop your products? That's so cool. Like, what are your business meetings like? Totally. I can tell when somebody is just treating me like I'm some whore. Or trying to get you to talk to them. Like, we're in a restaurant. Yeah, there's an energy because, like, with my current.

boyfriend, we matched on Raya, and that directly links to your Instagram. So it kind of does the heavy lifting for you, because they'll look in my Instagram bio and see this. They're either in or out based on that. And so it's like, I think one of his first questions was like, I think I have an interesting job, but I think yours takes the cake. And so that kind of makes you think, okay, he thinks of this in a positive light. So that was like very handy for me. I already knew he was into it and he was supportive and like he has proven to be that. Are you guys the most interesting couple. We're not going to say what he does. He actually has the most interesting jobs. Plenty of people do what he does. Not as many people do as sadly does. It's a niche.

But together, I'm like, I think they actually are. Yeah, you are. And you both ask so many questions and you're such yappers. You're both yappers. And you're such yappers. I'm God, you're so charming together. You made me laugh so much. I was listening to the episode where you were like, we know a couple of yappers. We'll see how that goes. I was like, I know exactly who you're talking about. So we have a few things to do today. We want to, we want to talk through the new products with Sally briefly and just, you know, give you guys some ins and outs. And then we want to answer your sex toy questions. Then we want to talk about Sally's dating life and her partner and some things like height and strategy. And I don't know where to start.

Well, yeah, we pulled to you guys and we asked like, what are your taboo sex toy questions? So we are going to get to all of those, how to introduce them to a partner and desensitization, vibrator addiction, things like that. But we do have a whole line of toys to introduce. But since we're talking about your boyfriend, maybe we just sort of like wrap that. Like how did you guys, your story of how you dated for a while, we met you when you were in a previous relationship. Totally. That ended. We watched that one end.

We watched you date a lot and find this guy. And maybe just talking about like your experiment for meeting him and how you filtered and things like that. We really have been on the journey. I mean, you went through a pretty tough breakup. Someone you lived with that you saw your future with. And, you know, we were there for it and, you know, hopefully you felt supported. Oh, totally. But then it was just like Sally's journey.

Well, it is actually so funny, the role you guys have played in my dating life. And I was thinking back about it. And I'm like, I think my dating life would be so different if I hadn't been a long time listener. Because like you said, I went through a breakup there. I was kind of blindsided. I didn't really see it coming. Like it wasn't perfect. But I just was in so much pain after that.

And I was thinking about your Amy Chan episode because I'd recommended it to a friend at the time. And I'm like, I have to listen to that episode. So I listen to the episode. And I'm like, that's not enough. I get the book. I listen to the audio book. And then I actually reached out to Amy because I was like, I don't know how I could ever prevent this from happening again. And that was just off the back of hearing her on your podcast, which is so cool.

So I'm like dating. I'm trying to figure out how to like not go through this type of heartbreak again. And I hired her as like a bit of a dating coach. And I was telling you guys about this. and she recommended to me to not take it so seriously, just sort of like get a feel for the different types of men that are out there and she gave me an experiment. And I remember I came to Raina's house.

I was telling her about this experiment. It's based on this thing called the secretary problem, which is like if you're going to hire a secretary, you don't need to interview 100 people. That's like a lot of time. But if you interview 12 of those candidates, you'll get enough of an idea. and within those 12, you'll get, like, close to the best option.

And you can optimize forever for an extra 1%. But actually, within those 12, you'll find your best option. So she gives me this experiment, and I take this very seriously. And I go to Rainer's house and I tell her about it. I do want to give people background. Amy Chan has been our show a few times, and she started with his breakup boot camp brand, wrote a book, and she's a dating coach.

So just to give people a little background, she's a phenomenal dating coach. And you guys broke it down. for me on that episode. So I'm so glad I had it. And then, so I go to Raina's house and I'm telling her about it. And she's like, you probably have like a spreadsheet. And I was like, and she was like laughing.

And I was like, yeah, actually I do. Oh, she didn't tell you to do the spreadsheet. Oh, no, no, no. I did it on the back. You know, I'm very organized. It's an air table. I can't like be juggling 12 different guys and get them mixed up, you know. Totally.

So Raina was like laughing about it. I'm like, yeah, actually like I have columns. Like I have like pros, cons, like how I feel when I'm with. them like, you know, their lifestyle, if we're compatible, this type of, and we're just laughing about it. So I like the exercise of just having a log of like, this is what I liked, this is what I didn't like. I have instant recall. I can tell you all the dates I went on this year, but I don't know. I might let somebody in after six months that like I genuinely did not enjoy their company that much, but you forget because you're horny, you know, and I like to keep a long as you can circle back to the spreadsheet.

But I like that you had to write it down. You would to think about the compatibility like you mentioned in the way that they make you feel and write it down. Not that you can't change your mind, but it almost gives some permanence to it and like reminds you later when you're like, oh, about that dick. And it's like, not compatible. Not compatible with my lifestyle.

Isn't it so sadly though? Like, to your credit and so many people like, why wouldn't we put as much care into this as we put into our jobs if you're like, I really, really want to find a partner? Why not game it the same way you would game hiring a secretary? Totally. And I mean, it does sound like I was very serious

and scientific about it. But the experiment really was like, just date, not thinking each person is the one. Just know you've got to date 12 different people, one at a time. If it doesn't work out, no worries. They're just one of the people on the list. You move on to the next. And that takes a bit of pressure off of this next person has to be my soulmate. It was like, I was really dating it with a bit of detachment, finally, being like, okay, maybe I'll just see. Like, how do I feel around him? Okay, maybe like, you know, a music producer is not compatible to my life, but maybe like a, you know, a nine to five guy is. Like, it was just an experiment. And that was like really fun.

Luckily, I actually met someone very early in the experiment. So they kind of saved me a bit of time. But it wasn't immediate. No. You continued to date after him and then came back together. Did you hit 12? Do you think overall? Great question.

I think I hit like eight or nine. Close-ish. That's a lot. Yeah. Like my sister-in-law said to me the other day, she was like, I was telling her, I just, I never ever want to go on a second date with like so many people. And she was like, what if forever like five to six guys, you promised yourself you'd go on a second date? And I was like, six, six. So many. Tell me you haven't been in the game

since high school. You're like, I have two jobs. Six guys. Like, well, she's never dated. She met my brother when she was 22. And she doesn't pretend to know anything she's talking about. But she's like, what about for six? I was like, bitch, do you know how hard it is to go on six first date? And then second date, so that's 12. Don't go on a second date with that guy that looks like. American psycho because you will get murdered. I told Raina, I was like, I want to be on record that this guy is going to really deeply offend you or murder you. Wow.

I want to be right. That guy's a doctor, though. He looks terrified. He does look terrified. Oh, yeah, the doctor's kind of scaring me. I went through a phase. I love a doctor, but like a real scary American psycho. That's what it looks like.

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Sure. But in terms of like you guys, the timing wasn't right at first and you came back together, whatever you want to share you. Yeah, sure. I mean, like I had been single for six months at this point. So I wasn't ready for a boyfriend. Our work was really busy at the time. So I was like, I'm just married to my job right now. I want to focus on that.

I'll do this experiment running in the background. So I was not looking for my forever person at that point. And so I was on Raya. I matched with this very cute man. A man, by the way, because I had been dating a very young person previously. And this guy is like a full grown man. I forgot. Your last boy, you know, 10 years younger than you?

Oh, he was like 60 years younger than me. Okay, he seemed like he was 10 years younger than you. And then the current one is how much older? 14 years older. You really swung another direction, Sally. How old are you, Sally? How old is Sally? Wait, I'm a guess.

You're 34? Uh-huh. And he's turning 48 this year. He is? Uh-huh. I know, it's those genetics. Yeah. Oh, I know.

Yeah. He looks so good. And he's such a, like, playful, like, super. And he has a young energy. Totally. He's even sexier to me now. he's almost 50 okay cute we love Sally's boyfriend

I mean he might be my favorite oh that's so sweet so like we met you guys when I went with my fiance on a trip and the first time we met him it was actually randomly in Vancouver you guys were both there and I asked my fiance like later in the trip what's been your favorite part of the trip and he said meeting him

and he just kind of caught me at a weird moment and I didn't like it no one would like that And it kind of ruined our dinner, but he said he was joking. I like how he tried to walk him back like he was kidding. Why don't you just date him then? His whole trip you planned. He said the favorite thing was me, Sally's boyfriend.

I better watch my man. Are you so desperate for male connections? Wait, no, I want to talk about this for one second because your fiance, men love him and he connects with men. And, okay, so one of our friends broke up with her boyfriend. And he unfollowed and removed us all his followers, all of our friends, except for Ashley's fiance. He's the only one.

I get it. He's cool. He's just like, maybe he forgot, but I don't think so because he remembered some random shit. Yeah, he's like, I'm going to keep him. He was good. Unreal. But yeah, we had the best double day. It was so fun.

And so even at the time, like, when we first match and we went on our first date, like, he was actually going through processing the grief of his previous partner. He was with at the time. She passed away. And so he was like, you know, quite soon after that, it was like half a year after that. And he was like, I just want to feel something. I just want to feel hope that maybe one day I could like make this happen for me. Like, because he's very romantic.

And, you know, everything that comes with that, like my sister lost her husband. And I just, I knew that she had so much love. It didn't disappear when he passed away. she still wanted to like love someone and build something with someone, but it's like you go through so many different stages and you don't feel ready. And I just had a lot of compassion for him because I'd seen my sister go through it. He told me like straight away before we even went on a date. And I just was like, sure, like, you know, I'm not looking for anything serious.

This is no pressure. So we go on this date and I just remember thinking like, oh my God, I want to kiss this man. And I don't know about you guys, but like I know. never think that on a date. Like I'm like, oh, unless you would do. It's like, you do. You either do or you right now. You really don't. If it doesn't come up for me,

it's never going to come up. It is more rare. Yeah. It is rare for me. And so I just thought he was like so positive and warm, even though he was like in pain. And I just said to him like, hey, I'm not looking for anything serious. He's like, definitely me either. And we're like, cool. So like, let's just, you know,

have a bit of a hookup. So we hooked up a couple of times on and off. And like, you know, would go like a few weeks. I wouldn't hear from him. We would just stay in touch. And I was doing my dating experiment. And he was like number three. And I knew he was so not my person, by the way, because he was emotionally unavailable that I told him about the experiment. I'm like, this is my buddy. This is my fuck buddy. Yeah. I was like, hey, hey pal, you're number three, FYI. But you read the situation for what it was. A person told you I'm not ready to be in a relationship

and you believed them. Yeah. I had no delusions like, oh, he just needs to meet the right person. So I'm like, you know, out there going on dates and he's still talking to me. And for me, he just like, he created a new benchmark the way he treated me even as like a situation ship with like no strings. He was so thoughtful, so respectful, so positive and just really present. And even though he wasn't in love with me, he was very loving. And I just, when I would go on these other dates, I'm like, oh, they don't really stack up to that guy. And so, but I was like, oh, damn, like, he's really not ready.

And it got to a point where he was, like, sort of acting like my boyfriend and we'd spend a lot of time together. And I just said, like, hey, I can't do this anymore. Like, I'm getting too attached and I know you're not available. I'm not going to try change a man. I know you're not available. So, like, I just, we need to put this on pause. And so we took a little break and we just really missed each other.

So he's like, you know, I've given it some thought and I really want to try it. And I'm like, okay, like, I'm probably going to get my heart broken, but like, I can't let this man go. So we tried it. A couple of things came up, you know, when you're dealing with grief, it's very up and down. And there were just some things that, like, came up for him. And he just really wasn't ready. Yeah. And even though I was so sad, I couldn't be mad at him about it.

And it takes a lot. And honestly, Amy Chan's coaching was great because she was like, if you really care about this person, it's not about you. You just want to make sure your friend is okay. You heal with time. You said you don't want to change him. It's not even that. It's like you don't want to force a timeline who no one ever knows what it will be.

Yeah. And grief is not linear and no one can be sure. So it just, that was the issue at hand. Yeah. And I thought, you know, it might be five years until he's ready. I can't hold out hope. And so, you know, like we had a bit of on again, off again. And it wasn't like, you know, I was seeing other people.

the time or he was seeing other people, none of those dynamics came into play, thank God, because that makes it even harder and more confusing. But it was just like he wasn't ready. So I just gave him space and time and support as a friend and we are actually finally official and we're really giving it a go. And like, you know, the grief never goes away. He's not trying to replace somebody and like we definitely honor her. But at the same time, he deserves to be happy. and not live with that sorrow forever. You're just, you're really patient and kind with him. And I remember saying to you,

you were in London with him for a little bit. I met up with you. And you were telling me some things he was saying. And I remember saying like, I don't think he wants to be like this. I don't think he wants to keep bringing this stuff up and feeling like this. And I really have faith in him that he tried his best.

And you were very kind and patient. And I think that what you're saying is like way easier said than done. Like give somebody time and space and hopefully they come back to me. Like that would make me feel crazy. But like you're like a living example of like that you can do it and it can happen. And life is long and you gave him some space. And the alternative would be like to be angry or not show up with compassion. And then you probably won't get the person back.

Totally. That's the thing. Life is long. And I just thought like this is such a good person. He deserves to be happy. I don't know if this is going to be our story. But also like, you know, there are other people out there. I'll probably find someone eventually.

I'll keep going with my experiment. And I just thought, like, if we're meant to be together, like, it will work out. But, oh, my God, I was so sad. I was, like, crying all the time. So don't think I was, like, so cool and chill about it. But you guys were meant to be together. I don't know, forever. But you just were.

Like, it just was a timing thing. And, like, you said, he wasn't dating other people. This wasn't, like, a he's not ready to commit thing. I think that's so different. Someone's going to twist our words and be like, oh, it's so worth waiting. around. We're like, we're talking about grief here. It's a very specific thing.

He had exhibited the fact that he could be in a committed relationship before, which is a big thing, whereas we've all dated non-committal avoidant fuck boys who are like, I'm just not sure I'm ready. Like, don't wait around forever for those guys. But this was a definite, like, specific example. And he was being honest. Totally.

The whole time. And we love him. So he is a shorter king. He certainly is. And we obviously, asked if we could discuss this with you. You've posted about this before. Yeah, I'm very passionate about this. And this, I was watching this clip. It was actually Logan Yuri, who we've had on a few times, and she's a date of scientists at Hinge and a dating relationship coach, and she's phenomenal.

And she was speaking with Liz Moody, who we did a pod swap with recently. And they were talking about how women are discounting men because of a six-foot filter, which will share our feelings on a six-foot filter. But they mentioned the step. You should go higher. grow up and date an adult. Okay. Oh my God, Rana. So roughly estimated 14.5% of men in the U.S. are over six feet. Wild.

You are discounting 85.5% percent of the population because they're not over six feet. It's wild. And then within that percent, have you ever seen somebody spill all like a bunch of skittles on a table and say like, take this away for like age? body mass index if you wants me to look a certain way, a certain amount of money that they make, what profession, where do they live? Like all, do they want kids or not? You're down to nobody. You think about the, then they go baggage. They might have ex-wives. Yeah. Right. Oh, so many people won't date a person with children or ex-wives. I don't suffer from that. I'm a big fan of divorce guys. But you're filtering out the whole world. Totally. And if you're really tall, I get it. But it's

crazy because I'm 5'10. But I didn't even do this. Like, yeah, I don't want a super short guy, but it matters to me. I'm not going to lie. And I'm trying lightly here because my fiance is six three. But the guys I've dated before, 511, 510, I've always wanted someone my height or taller. But the six foot filter for women who, especially who are smaller, is kind of beyond my comprehension. And you're welcome to do whatever you want.

But you could really be filtering out some great guys. And I think this is when you hear women say, like, I never would have swiped on him, but yet here they are with him in real life. Yeah. I mean, I like what I like. And if I were to build a man, if I were to pay a dating coach, go find me this exact thing. I guess you can ask for whatever you want. If I were to build a man, he'd be six two.

That's what I like. That from across a room, that's what I would want to walk up to a bar. Over a foot taller than you. Yeah, I like that. That's nice for me. But what I really like, I use this dating app field a lot. And you can't filter for height. People put it in their dating profile a lot, but it's not something you can filter for.

And I find myself talking to so many more people because I'm not looking at a certain height or employment level. So I'm just like, is this person cute and do I like talking to them? And that's what I scan for. I love this so much because my thing is like, if you talk about it, like I've got my spreadsheets and I'm seeing it like a bit of an experiment, I'm like, why would I compete with every woman in this country? There's girls who are hotter than me, more successful, more connected. No.

Like, why would I compete with them for people over six foot? Like, that just sounds like really hard. Wait, I love this. You're like, they want the high road. I go low. But like, to your point, even if you. thought 50% of women are doing it. They're competing for 14% of men on top of all the other disparities.

Yeah, I'm already going to lose. Scott Galloway said on our show that something like every woman on a dating app is going after 5% of the men on that dating app. Yeah. I'm not interested in that game. That just sounds really hard to me. And my thing is like, just for me, I've never really been attracted to people who are over six foot because I'm like five, two and a half, five three.

for me, I'm like, they're so big. Like, their limbs get in the way and they're always like, the knees are up in my business. Like, for me, it's not very elegant. I want people who are like, my size so we fit together well. Good sex. Totally. The best sex I've had is definitely not with anyone over six foot.

I mean, I think, and obviously Raina disagrees based on what she's looking for, but I do think it's good when you were matched up, sort of. Otherwise, you're one on top of this guy. He's got three feet of legs hanging off. I like it. Your body. I like it. I'm afraid they're going to suffocate me. They're so big.

Also that. Yeah. But, you know, when you think about what you describe in a person that you're dating that you love about them, their looks might come up, sure, at five things down the road. But like, when I really think, what do I love about my previous partners, the way they look is so far down the list. Like, I would, he's tall, would never come up for me. Totally.

And that's the thing. After my breakup, I wasn't like, oh, I wish he was shorter or taller. Like that was so not the reason I was heartbroken. It was because of like all these other incompatibilities. And so my thing was like I'm optimizing for kindness. Are they like diligent? Do they conscientiously like work hard? Do they care about me?

Are they romantic? Do they make me laugh? Are they great in bed? All these things. And none of that was like, oh, but he has to be like extremely tall. Taller than me? That's all I need. Right.

I agree. And I think you probably have a lot of women out there who can speak to being with a man who was maybe not their ideal height, but they met them still, maybe in the wild or wherever. And they shudder to think if they hadn't. You know, like it could make them just die to think if they hadn't met this person that they're so in love with because they had a filter set on a dating app. Totally.

And like, my thing is I was thinking about this. I'm like, okay, so who are the hottest men objectively in society right now? And it's like, okay, Brad Pitt. he's not six foot he's 511 George Clooney 510 so imagine like you've got George Clooney's career success he's good looking like maybe he's not a famous movie star but he's like a really good lawyer

and he's a really good family guy but he's 510 and you've never even got the chance to meet this guy because your filter was stopping you that just makes me sad I'm like there are hot men under six feet obviously and again it's not a rule across the board but if you've just had every your whole life because you're tall and good looking and white and athletic, whatever it may be.

Totally. You're probably not the greatest person. You could be. But you haven't dealt with a lot of adversity in your life. Yeah. We've talked about this before. I mean, guys are shorter, have had to try a little bit harder to have a personality, to be respected. I mean, it's just, it's a thing.

They really have had to, like, have a personality. Yeah. Well, I actually think there's like an empathy element to it too, because if life isn't easy, for them. They actually understand more what it's like to be a woman because like, you know, we have to compete for jobs harder. We're overlooked for certain things. And like, so are shorter guys. So maybe they actually understand and have more empathy. I'm not saying all of them. But like, I do see it as a common trait in shorter guys that they have more empathy for what it's like to be a woman, which is awesome. This is what I look for. They're going to hate that line.

You're shorter guys. They just understand what it's like to be a woman. Yeah, because they're our height. They're petite and dainty. We just want to talk about it with you. Classic. It's just like, do whatever you want, but you could be missing out. Yeah, absolutely. And that's unfortunate. Yeah, I mean, like Paul Rudd to me was like my ultimate guy.

A lot of people's ultimate guy and he's 5'9. I'm not saying no to Paul Rudd just because he's 5'9. 100%. Those actors are little. I used to meet them all. They used to come into Quality Meets where I worked in New York and we get a lot of celebrities who's next to the Plaza Hotel and all of them. Zach Ephron walked in, just little Zach Ephron.

All these people are. And he's hot. Let's be honest. Oh, the hottest. I mean, and Jarl rule. Jarl. So wait, would you ever date Zach Ephron? Fuck yeah.

I'm in love with Chuck Bass. Your ex was- Chuck Bass? Your ex was probably 510, 511? My most previous one? Yeah. I mean, and he felt tall to me. So this is the thing.

Like the preference of 6-2, I think it's like a nice to have, but I definitely think like, don't set your filter to it. It's not a need to have. Totally. But I mean, I mean, I like. even just the competition strategy. Why would I want to be in the bullpen with every woman on earth competing for one thing? Yeah.

Well, Nikki Glazer says that you get a hot guy to discount. Her boyfriend is on the shorter side. I think when she wears heels, he's shorter than her. Amazing. And she's talked about it for years. Like, that's how you get the hottest guy. Right. The problem is when they're not nice to and you're like, how dare you?

I picked you because you were little and I thought you'd have to act better. That's how I felt about ugly guys. Right? Yes. Ugly guys, you broke guys. You're like, you were supposed to treat me well. Totally. You've nothing going for you.

Well, to Sally's point, like sometimes they are way more respectful and kinder, but on the other hand, sometimes they literally hate all women. They're really chinted. They were really chinted. You're like, I did charity work because I thought this would be easier for me and look where it got me. That is so true. Let it be known.

But kings and not charity work. I said it here today. No, the audacity of a short guy to be an asshole, though. And that's most of the guys in Boston. If you really are looking for one, if you really are looking for a short asshole, that's the capital. hilarious. That used to be my type.

When I see a short guy mouthing off somebody, I'm like, who do you think you are down there talking to somebody like that? Get on a step stool, come back. Well, did you see material? Yes. That was a huge theme of it. And we can talk about it now because we don't want to give it away, but literally men getting the surgery to be taller. That was really shocking to me. I mean, like, how would you guys feel if you had been in that situation and you went on a day with guy and you're like in bed with him and you see his knee scars? I couldn't care less. She's like, well, he sticks too, so I'm in.

I don't care because, like, you've already baked the cake. Like, I'm just getting the cake. But I have empathy for a man that would go through that and would put themselves through a surgery like that. Because I think that, like, if you really read what it feels like to be a man and, like, all jokes aside, like, you are less respected in professional settings sometimes. It's even me, like, I'm short. I feel like I need to be bigger to be, like, listened to, to, be respected.

I'm not the same physical size as other people. I look little. And I have felt that my whole life. When I would manage this restaurant, I was the youngest manager, and I would wear these high heels. I would be in crippling pain to the point that I thought I was going to throw up at the end of the night. And I couldn't take them off because everybody was bigger than me.

And I just felt physically like I didn't command a room the same way. So anyways, I feel for a man that feels like they have to go through that to be, like, respected and fucked in this world. Yeah. Like the overcorrection is clearly Jeff Bezos and men like that, who their whole lives have felt like that and have just turned into like the most successful prick in the world. But I have another comedian friend.

I'm glad you put it back on yourself too in terms of women also. And she feels the same way. And she feels like she needs to be, I don't know, more assertive and just kind of overcompensate because she's not taken as seriously. And she also just feels like she's so over people bringing up her height. You're so small. Like it's just, I know. People bring up to me constantly.

Yeah. I noticed my body language in groups of people where I'm leaning forward more to be like heard or I'm being lax. louder and I feel really confident, but I even noticed that like somebody like Ashley can sit back a little more because you're foot taller than I am. But we all have insecurities, obviously, and like I love my height now. But I mean, years of my life were just like crying myself to sleep because I was so tall and taller than all the boys and my feet were so big. And all I wanted to do was be five five, you know. I want to go back to the question about the men having the

surgery. It's just, I don't know. I think it would be a little hypocritical for me. I've had my nose done. You know, like I've made changes to my appearance. to look better. I think it's a different surgery. It's so intense. It's more life-threatening. So they're not really comparable, but it would feel a little hypocritical.

Oh, I don't judge it at all. I can't imagine what you've gone through as a person feeling like that every day of your life wanted to change your appearance so badly and feeling like this is the only thing people see of me. Again, to put on my eyes, I had like F-sized boobs. It was the only thing people saw of me.

And yeah, I got a lot of fucking attention from it. mostly positive, but like, what if it was a ton of attention and all of it was bad? You know, so I get it. I get wanting to do it. Yeah. Okay, sex toys. Let's talk about our new products for fall. They are different stuff we have never done before.

And we have been teasing and we are obsessed and we know you guys are going to be too. Yeah. So, Sal, you help us to develop new stuff. What holes do we have in the collection that we need to fill and what would be exciting? What are people asking for? So we have three new products for you guys. We have a new toy, a new liquid, and a new accoutrement. You want to start with the toy?

Yeah, let's stop with the toy. Okay, so we have a new toy. It is perfect for partner play and solo. I cannot stop using it. You guys probably shouldn't touch this. I use it a lot. So this toy is called the Farah Finger vibe, and it is a toy that you wear on your finger,

and it literally mimics the shape of your finger, but it vibrates. And we're going to talk about vibrator addiction and switching up the type of stimulus that you have on yourself, but I really like these air pulse vibrators that we sell. And this is totally different because it's not air pulse. It's just silicone and it's a deep rumbling vibration. It's a lot of power for a petite package.

And we were thinking because we have the Lucy bullet, which we've had different sleeves on throughout the years. And we've had a finger sleeve on it before. And that's what got the conversation started. Like what if we created a vibrator that was all in one and not two different parts. And people love the Lucy finger sleeve. And I used this recently. This is mostly what I bring on when I'm traveling.

And I was just like, God, our toys are really. so good, that they're just so good. They feel so good. I don't know any other vibrators that are as soft and silky as ours. And it's so important as that they feel like that on your body. One of the reasons we wanted to start this company in the first place was because we were using toys that were like, these hurt my body. Like, why is this so hard? Why is this feel so cheap? And why is the box so shitty? And so I just love the way this feels. We always do these like little ridges for extra stimulation. And the finger loop, I mean, obviously, I have a petite tiny little finger. Raina, but a big hand can get in here too. So you can wear it. If we're talking to women with

traditionally smaller hands and like a big man can stick this on too. It's stretchy and silica. Yes. And it forms to the shape of your finger and it extends a little further than that. It's really comfortable to wear. And I love it for solo play, but a partner, this would be, I think, my favorite tour that we sell now if you're doing doggy and you want somebody to reach around and touch your clit and stimulate it because it's really hard for somebody to hit those nerve endings from behind. And so a man or a woman, whoever is behind you, can very easily use this on your clitters while they are going to town and they don't have to hold anything because it slips like it just stays on their finger.

Put it on early and just have it. You can be making out with this on. It hasn't touched. You know, they're totally. Put it on like a condom, early days. You're ready whenever. Like, again, you don't have to be holding something and have one hand that you can't use. So this is our newest toy.

You guys will love it for solo play, partner play. It comes in these gorgeous, high-end luxury. boxes. So if you want to gift it to somebody, also a perfect gift. And we'll talk about how to bring toys into the bedroom in a little bit. Okay. And let's talk about, we're going to save the best for last. I mean, we love them all, but you guys, you'll see. We don't have favorites. Yeah, we have favorites. So let's talk about the glow below. Yes. Okay, this was your idea. Yeah, this one, I have been championing for, for a long time because, like, I am really obsessed with skincare. I think about it a lot. You just said, I'm afraid of the sun. So I'm always thinking

about like what I'm putting on my skin. And for me, like I was doing, you know, four-step skincare routine, et cetera, but like for my pussy, I was like scooping a coconut oil tub out and wiping it on myself. And I'm like, this is insane. There has to be a better option. And it's like, I'm really sensitive. If I put on a lotion that has like 20 different ingredients that's meant for your feet and your hands, I don't want to put that near me because like I could get irritated. I could get a UTI. So I spent. a lot of time and we were talking a lot about this in terms of like what we liked and we love like the coconut oil as a great moisturiser but we want something that is like skincare every day

that you can use because like I use this every single day because I get out of the shower. I'm in California. There's hard water. I'm like really dry. My skin all over my body is dry and I needed something that was like safe to put on my vulva that could get inside of me a little bit and like, you know, I'm not allergic to it. not going to irritate anything. And also, like, I have gotten so many compliments now on how silky smooth she is, which is very important. A dolphin down there. And we have a water-based

lube that we sell that you can have sex with, obviously. And so this is going to be a different type of product because it's thicker and it's oil. Totally. So it is our glow below intimate moisturizing oil. It can be used internally. So you can use it to reduce friction, of course. totally just like with a partner like you want a bit of slip and slide you want some glide it lasts for a long time because it's oil and then like afterwards you don't have to like have a shower and clean it all off you can just like moisturize it into your skin some people need a thicker oil in general also because of going through metapies we've heard from people who have been treated for cancer and have gone into metapause early that they need just a little bit of extra help that

a water-based lube which gets absorbed into your body quicker, can't really take care of. Yeah. And I remember I was getting a bikini wax one time. And she was like, your vulva is so dry. I was like, what? And like to hear that, she meant like the skin. She wasn't like, she wasn't inside me. She wasn't inside me. But I was like, oh my God. Okay. I mean, I have dry skin as well. Yeah. But I was like noted. Yeah. Thanks so much. Let me start slathering up my pussy. But it's skin. And I mean, I do a full skin care routine. I get out of the shower.

And I don't think to do that area. Yeah, I'll swipe a lotion on it. But like also to Sally's point, I mean, I use really clean products when I can. Not everybody does. Your lotion probably is fragrance in it. It probably has stuff in it that you don't want in your pussy. And so this, I really love that it pulls double duty as your moisturizer day to day and also can be used internally and during sex.

With a pot. And that's the thing. There's an ingredient in the, there called sea buckthorn oil, which is actually really good for paramenopausal dryness, postmenopausal dryness. It actually like helps to hydrate and nourish, not just like when you put it on, but throughout the day as you're wearing it. And so things like this used over time can actually help improve, you know, the look feel internally as well. And just to wrap that out, the packaging really high end and beautiful. And so you can feel excited to have that out on your counter or in a

cabinet it doesn't say like fuck oil. You know. Which is fine if it did. Yeah. Which we will be coming out with. Which the fuck oil is dropping. Q on.

Check back on Valentine's tape. What did I want to call something one time? Oh my God. Suck sauce. Never forget it. I was sitting on my mom's porch and we were trying to figure out what's called the new packaging for the suck and blow gel and Ash was like sucks sauce.

Is it too much like duck sauce? It's close to duck sauce. I was like, I think this would be good for barstool. Let's market it to the barstool audience. Okay. Okay. Lastly. Final.

Yes, we here we have our very first sex pillow. This is the play pillow. Super exciting. This took us a long time. Yes. Because like, you know, there are so many shapes out there. We had to test a lot. I remember I showed up to Raina's house with like eight giant pillows and she's like,

body-sized pillow. What? You brought one to her birthday dinner. And I took it home and you sat that night. And we thank you for putting your body on the line for us. But Raina was like, this is out of control. And there are some really big pillows. So the purpose of a sex pillow, if you've seen them or not,

is basically so that you and your partner can put your body in different positions during sex, whether you have, like, honestly, like hip pain or if you want to elevate your pussyhole or your butt hole or whatever. Yeah, if you want to bend over it, obviously, like, we have. use this in quote unquote missionary, but it doesn't feel like missionary. Totally. This is the thing. No, I guess he was standing. Whatever we did, it was short-lived. I mean, we have a great for you. We have a great sex life, but he just got him caught. Yeah. He was able to get this angle. Yes. It's all about the angles. So if you guys aren't watching it, it is wedge shaped and it's meant to go

under basically your buttocks and it'll just lift that hole up. So yeah, actually, if somebody's standing and you're laying on the edge of the bat, I think that would like... Oh, that is the dream position for this thing. Okay. But it truly can do so much. I mean, for me, like, I have kind of a soft bed and I have kind of a soft couch. So, like, if I'm doing missionary, I'm, like, sinking into the bed and I can't get enough of an angle and then I've got to try to put a pillow under me, but then the pillow

goes flat. And this is actually designed to hold its shape. It compresses a little bit so it's comfortable, but it really keeps that angle and it helps you reach all different types of variations of missionary. because like missionary can get a little stale. Yes, and it's called a pillow, but it is like a foam wedge. So it is dense. It's not going to just crush under the weight of your body.

Totally. It's like the highest quality wedge that you can get. One great thing about this too is it's like if your guy's going down on you and you're straddling him and you're like on your knees, you can actually put this under your knees and it helps you get a little height. He can put his head on the lower part of it. And it just means you can be higher above him. You're not going to actually smother him, which, you know, sometimes I can be a little

afraid of. Love that. And we will be posting more info, of course, on social media. And then we have a great manual you guys will get with some illustrations. Which was very fun. We're doing the illustrations at the moment. Very spicy. But the cover as well is like it can get wet. It's washable. And then there's a waterproof liner underneath as well. So to protect the pillow. So we got you covered. And the color is stunning. A beautiful green. It's really high. And it's velvet. And it's another thing you can leave out if you need to, just put on your bed. Yeah, I had to walk up the street carrying this thing today. And no one would have known.

It just looks like I'm going to sleep. Take it to work with you. Totally. You should work. You're like, that's for my lumbar. Yeah, exactly. Lumber support. So you guys, this is all out now and you guys can shop it at Vibesonly.com,

improve your sex life, you know, all fall long. We're really excited to bring these to you guys. So thank you for your support as always. We hope you love them. Yes, the Farah Finger vibe, the glow below, intimate, moisturizing oil and the play pillow have at it. Okay, let's wrap with some questions. Yes.

Okay, so we asked our audience what sex toy questions do you have, but there's a couple things like always, it just always came up over and over again. So I think maybe we start with people said can using a vibrator too much cause me to have essentially vibrator addiction to over-stimulate my clitorist to the point that sex does not feel good. Sure. And how can I avoid that type of thing? Yeah, I mean, I get this question a lot.

like people are like, oh my God, like I'm addicted to a vibrator. I can't get off any other way. And my response is like you really have to think about using a sex toy, any sex toy as like, it's part of a workout routine. Like your whole life, you wouldn't just do like the same five exercises. So you really have to like mix things up. And so if you use a vibrating toy lying on your back usually, why don't you mix things up by using an air pulse or a suction toy and lying on your stomach?

Like try different positions to make sure your brain. can also enjoy pleasure and reach orgasm from doing different things. Otherwise, like your partner is just going to have to lie there while you're like, hang on a second, I need to do my one thing that always gets me off. So it really is your responsibility to like mix it up, go manual mode from time to time. Yes. Well, that's the thing. I mean, we, we care about you guys ultimately.

We're not just always just trying to sell you something. And so we encourage you to use your fingers sometimes to mix it up. Yeah. And really turn yourself on. try to get yourself lubricated and don't just go in dry with a vibrator because you know you'll come in 30 seconds. I can. I do it all the time. Yeah. You know, but sometimes I'm like, I can't become reliant on this. And some of this is also mental too. Like people are asking, am I addicted? Are you? You have to ask yourself that. Yeah. You know. You can train your brain to get so used to one thing that it really

is your responsibility to retrain it too. So just mixing things up and like even if it's grinding against something instead of using a toy or direct stimulation. The pillow is a great idea. Oh my God. I love that. You could grind up on the edge of that thing. It's elevated. You use the edge of a couch, you know.

Exactly. An armchair, just when I leave. Yeah. But, you know, sex with a partner, like, don't expect it to feel the same as a vibrator. Some people say, like, I can come really fast by myself and it takes 20 minutes with a partner. And that's okay. You're going to know your body better than anybody.

Of course, you're going to be able to make yourself come faster than anyone. And direct clitoral standards. stimulation, no other factors of how do I look? Am I making them feel good? Obviously, you're going to get there quicker. But I do what you're saying. My favorite tour that we sell is called the Debbie. It is an air pulse vibe.

It is a big hole. It's a suction vibrator. I love it. But I often switch off to the phara with just the vibration or just my regular finger is because I don't like getting too used to one type of stimulation. Yeah, totally. And it's okay to feel like it takes a little longer with my partner. And you had like a really good piece of place about.

Yeah. is the goal of sex to just come as fast as possible? Like, I hate when I'm having sex with someone and they're like, you have to come. It's like, I just want to enjoy 20 minutes of like playing with my partner and like, why is it all about the end goal instead of just like, let's just spend time together. Let's play. Like, it doesn't have to be about, I must climax immediately. And we had Matthew Brassard on a few months ago, a comedian and he was wonderful and he talked about

his now wife. and she really can't come without a vibrator and that's okay too. And it sounds like they have tried everything and I don't certainly don't think it came from some sort of vibrator, quote unquote addiction and that's what they got going on and they use toys and that's fine too. They can be the best thing. Yeah, they help you get to know what you enjoy without the pressure of having someone else in the room.

So for me, I feel like they're a great tool to like help you get to know your body on your own time first and then you can include a partner in that. Okay, that brings our next question. Probably the number one thing we got was how do I tell my partner I want to use a toy in the bedroom and when to introduce this with a new partner versus an existing partner because that's probably the trickiest thing is I've been with my partner for a couple years. Things have maybe gotten a little stale or I'm really having trouble climaxing and how do I

bring this up in a way that doesn't, one, insult them to intimidate them and make them feel like I don't think our sex life is good enough. Yeah. In my opinion, I think I've never had any success with a guy if I've made him feel like he's inadequate in some way. So if I want to introduce toys in a relationship, even if it's at the start or if it's after a few years, you kind of want to make it like fun for them as well. You don't want to position it like they have some deficit and like they're not fulfilling

your needs. You've got to make sure that they feel like, babe, you are amazing. I always feel like so good and so satisfied with you. Wouldn't this be fun to try or like, have you ever thought about trying with a sex toy? And like, you don't have to just whip it out in the bedroom. You could kind of like test the water first, talk about it on date night, over dinner. Like, hey, do you want to like try something fun and like get a little spicy? And it has nothing to do with his performance in bed or your partner's performance.

It's just about like, let's mix things up. You want to just try this? And like sometimes you have to ask a couple times. a couple of different ways. Like, we're on this journey together. This is us making our sex life harder. Totally. It's not about anything you're doing wrong.

Like, I think you're incredible. Let's just, like, you know, try something. Maybe you'll like it. Maybe you don't. It's cool if you don't like it. Make sure there's, like, no pressure on them either way. But, like, it's fun to explore. Like, maybe it feels good to, like, use the pharaoh, like, tickling his balls.

It's not just about, it has to be on your clip, you know? Like, you can really, like, include them, run it up their inner, like put it on their perineum like that will feel good for them too it's not just about your clit i like that they will enjoy this too and also this is not replacing you this is in addition to us your sousher and why do you hate your sushi i think that people are worried about intimidating their partner and unfortunately size has to do with that sometimes and so the phara that i'm holding on my finger i think it's great because it just mimics your finger it's not some giant thing and you're not saying It's like a bionic finger.

It's just an extension of your finger. It's just making your finger be able to vibrate. That's awesome. It has nothing to do with like the size of a penis. You don't want anything that they would feel intimidated or competing against. That is like just so cute and innocent. And the handcuffs too. I mean, people view all our different products in different ways.

But I think that's a great entree. And that's like light bondage and something easy to grab that has nothing to do with what they're able to do or not do with your private parts. You know, that's just like a hot, sexy thing. Let's try it and grab it. And that can be, again, that might be too high level for someone. But that's what I'm saying. The other products, they can be your gateway into the vibrating.

Yeah. And like, oh, you loved the wedge. Like, oh, cool. What else, you know, is out there? Here's another option. Oh, he's one that vibrates. You know, because it's like a slow buildup. I love that advice.

And it reminds me of this interview we did with Adaminatrix and people talking of getting it to be. DSM and she said like people don't have to start at the highest level like use a sleep mask and put it on them and just touch their body like you don't have to go like full send absolutely and somebody said a bunch people said like is there is it is there ever too soon to bring this up yeah I mean I guess it depends on like the vibe with the person but once you start to talk about things sexually like even before you've ever had sex you kind of have a conversation that like gets a little bit intimate and hints toward the fact you're going to sleep together.

So, like, maybe that's the time. Like, you know, like, how adventurous are you? Or, like, have you ever used toys before? And you can make it, like, fun and playful. And no matter what their response is, don't be judgmental towards it. But just be, like, that could be kind of cool. And if they're intimidated by it, you can just be like, you know, it can just be fun. It can just be, like, a way to add to it.

Yeah, I think, like, I would not wait too long because, again, then it's just you've gone too far. you're not a couple that uses toys. You've been six months a year, years down the road, and then you feel a little desperate trying to spice something up because maybe you've lost some of that spark. But when you feel comfortable sexually, you've had sex a bunch, you're joking around, you know the way each other's body sound and smell,

and you've seen each other naked, and you've run to the bathroom in front of him to let yourself leak as calm out of your body. Like, you feel comfortable. You know what I'm saying? I think we know that sweet spot. Yes. I don't think it's ever too soon.

I think the sooner you can start writing these sex scripts together the better. But, okay, let me ask you guys. This kind of came up a lot. I was going to skip it. But what do you think about reusing sex toys with a new partner after that partner? So like you're in a relationship. You guys have sex toys you guys use together.

Is it kosher to reuse with the next partner? Well, that's why we have a cleaner. And people also asked about how to clean their vibrators. Amen. So we have the vibes only clean her, foaming toy cleanser. And this is going to sterilize your toys and make them just like new. So if you, that's it. You just got to clean between.

These are expensive. I'm not tossing this out. with the boyfriend. Oh, no. But like, I wouldn't trust a guy to have cleaned them. You know, that's on you. Fuck no. You have to clean.

You got to get a man, a man's sex toy. But if we're talking to women, which I think for the most part, women are the ones that are leading this charge. I mean, I don't know. Like, is he going to ask and be pissed? Like, he's going to be like, oh, did you use that with another guy? I mean, you don't want to lie. Like, why don't you just be like none of your business and it's sterilized? Yeah.

There's the life. Quidge. My ex never wanted to use these. So you actually are the first person I've ever used them. I'm wondering how many people would even ever ask this question. Actually, just lie. Just lie. I think we're safe to lie on this one.

Or you can be like, oh, when are you worried about it? Buy me a new one. Send them a link. Yeah, absolutely. So the cleaner, yes, we love this. This took a long time to develop too. We wanted to be perfect. I love the way it foams.

And you're just going to clean your toys with this, kind of scrub them lightly for about 10 seconds. You can sing happy birthday. That's the way to clean your car. to clean your hands and then rinse them clean and let them air dry or towel dry. Totally. This will give you the peace of mind because this is the thing like you can use soaps, but a lot of soaps now have moisturizers and oils and all these types of things that

actually like do not remove germs and they also like leave marks on the toys. So you want to use something like a toy cleaner or a very clean soap or detergent. But the toy cleaner is not going to be like harmful to your body. A detergent might be a little too harsh. But yeah, you just leave it on. You leave it on for like 10. to 30 seconds, make sure it gets all over, and then just let it, you know, rinse under the water, let it air dry. You're good to go. Okay, I have a question and I want you guys to answer,

honestly. I use the cleaner, obviously. Do you use it every time? No, people ask that. People ask, do I have to do it every single time? I know they asked and I'm asking you guys. No, I don't do it every time. Okay. Can I tell you my hack to? But Sally might have to say you have to for legal reason. Yeah, for legal. Legally, yes. Um, okay, I'll watch. But here's my hack to it. So there's, The reason that you want to clean your sex toys is because, like, it can get, like, fungal, germs, bacteria, all this type of thing. So my hack when I'm feeling super lazy is I'll use it, like, over my pants. Like, that, so it's like there's no skin-skins into skin contact. Oh, my God, inside of me, yes.

But here's my justification. Yeah. I rinse them every time. Amazing. I do. Like, for sure. I have never used a toy and put it in my drawer and gone back to it without rinsing it under the water. Yeah.

I got some things rattling around in my drawers. You really want to rinse. Right. But sometimes I'm like, if it's just touching my clit, how many people have touched my clit? This is so funny. With not clean hands. Like how, you know what I'm saying? Sorry, it's just like, I don't wash it every time.

How many people have we let finger us? Yeah. And they haven't necessarily. They don't necessarily. By the way, I love your microbiome. It's stronger than mine. Like mine cannot handle any. That's why I don't get sick.

Yeah. Totally. Mine can handle literally anything. That's why I don't get UTI. I'm like a kid. Like, I lick the floor. I literally get a UTI just glancing at something that's unwashed. See, you didn't let it have dirty hands touch a pussy.

Exactly. Like, I'm like, can you wash those things? The only time I get UTIs is when I fuck in Vegas. All right. Well, maybe we wrap up with one question, then we have to let you go. But a lot of people wanted to know tips for getting into butt sex. Here's my thing. I don't think you should do anything you don't want to do.

And I don't think men are asking sex columnists. Like, how do I do this thing? How do I get my body penetrated in an orifice? that I don't like. It's not going to feel fun for me for another person. But sure, let's play the game of how do I, do you have any tips or tricks for just getting into a little light butt play? Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, the thing is, like, you want to make sure you're aroused before you even start to, like, go near butt play. Because the thing is, like, you want your body to be relaxed and turned on. You want there to be blood flow, like, to your pelvic region before you ever, like, start to go near the butthole. Because if you're, like, uncomfortable and you're not warmed up, that thing is just going to tighten right up. and then like it's all over.

So you want to just start with like getting aroused in general, a little bit of body massage I always recommend. And then like for me there is like one key word, lube. You need to make sure you have lube on hand. Like you never want to go in dry. And I'm not talking like using spit. Like you have to use a product that like will last because spit will just be absorbed

by your body in an instant. Tell you, please. Are people really out of her spitting on a butthole for lube? Oh my God. Well, if the videos I've watched or anything to go by. I was like in the porn I watch. Exactly. I'm like, this is not real life, by the way, just so you all know.

Once they go near that hole, I turn the porn off. Spit on my ass porn. Okay. And so the thing is like for me, a lot of people think it's all about like penetration. You want to get inside. And that is just not the case. That's something you really have to work up too. So you want to start with just gentle massage with fingers, with your mouth,

maybe with a vibrating toy on a low setting. And you just want to focus on the area around the butt. you don't have to focus fully on the hole and going inside right away. Then you're going to tense up. And I will say, like, if you are using a vibrating toy, that's a great way to get loosened up. But you want to make sure you have a toy that has some kind of anchor so you can grip it. Because the last thing you want, worst case scenario, is your butt gets a little excited and it swallows your toy hole. So that's why we have our Annalise, which is all about, like, it has an anchor so you can hold it and it sticks out of the body because, like, you want to make sure, like, you're having.

a spicy night, you're not in the emergency. Okay. So, like, to wrap that up, be turned on, start slow, work your way up to it. And if your partner doesn't want to have patience for that, bye, I'm doing this for you. I don't even want to do this. Amen. Anyways. All right. Well, Sally, this has been amazing.

You guys can shop the line of vibes only at vibes only.com. Obviously, follow us on Instagram. But this has been really wonderful. And thank you for being here. We love you. And you're just, you're a great partner to us and great friend. Yes. And you guys really had a lot of questions.

And I do want to take some more. And some of this stuff is on our Instagram. too like how do I put the cock ring on I did a whole tutorial I used a banana get into it but we will continue to answer these as we go on and talk about our products of course so vibes only.com like reina just said girls got to eat dot com is where you can find everything about the podcast girls got a podcast on instagram and ticot i'm ash hess reina is rena dot greenberg subscribe on youtube share this episode with a friend and we'll see you next time have a good week guys Bye.