Girls Gotta Eat - Spells for Love, Sex, and Money with Modern Mystic Kelley Knight

Episode Date: September 21, 2020

We're getting witchy with it and talking about how to manifest your best life with our favorite psychic and trusted life advisor Kelley Knight, author of Spells for the Modern Mystic. We discuss spells and rituals for finding a partner, career success, and clearing your energy, why they work, general tips for manifestation, and even how to add masturbation into the mix for more powerful results. We're also sharing the hilarious things our listeners want spells for and introducing a new segment complete with tarot readings: "Fuck Him, Love Him, Leave Him." Hope you enjoy! Get more info on the book at ModernMysticSpells.com and follow @ModernMystic_Shop on Instagram. Follow us @GirlsGottaEatPodcast, Rayna @Rayna.Greenberg, and Ashley @AshHess. Check our website for tour dates and merchandise. Thank you to our partners this week: Calm: Get 40% off a Calm premium prescription at calm.com/gge. Article: Get $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more at article.com/gge. Tushy: Go to hellotushy.com/gge for for 10% off your order. DailyHarvest: Get $25 off your first box at dailyharvest.com, code GGE. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We want you to embrace the hard things, embrace the questions. And as part of the alchemy, right, this part of the transformation. It's so great. I think you'd really like. I'm going home and doing this tonight. I'm skipping dinner. Right now. I'm just going to working out.

I'm doing spells now. Yeah. Welcome back to another episode of Girls Got to eat. First day of fall, bitches. It is a crisp 69 degrees outside. God, it feels good. God, I love fall. Fuck.

having such a great day. We're both wearing sweatshirts. You look cute. You do. We really had a photo when you came over. You look cute. You look cute. I feel like we're in our like,

you're in the Gigi March, which I don't own. And I'm in the Adidas March, which I own too much of them. We'll never sponsor us. We can't hype them enough. That's all I wear. We got a great episode for you guys today.

We have a fan favorite returning to the show. So it's the first person that is back for her second solo episode. We really don't do this a lot. I mean, she's a friend. She's one of my best friends. Andrew Collin. No. We can't get rid of them.

Well, but no, like he came on with someone else. He came on and did like an end segment. Like, yeah, he's been on three times technically, but not like his own solo. He's the guest episode. Kelly's the first. And she was our first woman. First woman guest. Yeah.

So she's back. She's upstairs. She's waiting on the phone call. Well, no, she's stay. So my best guy friend Rob, moved in the building. but he's not here, so she's staying with him. It's a whole thing. I'd organize the key exchange.

It's a whole thing. I love it. Have we talked about how you and Rob live in the same building? Have we talked about it on the show? I think we said it a couple weeks. When we hyped men a couple weeks ago. Can't suggest them enough, men. You know, while we're here, like, because he was sending me videos,

he's in Spokane, Washington, but it's like raining ashes from the fires. And it's like they can't go outside all the way in Washington. And so I just wanted to address what's happening with our world burning. and donate where you can. I've posted resources on my story. The Red Cross is always good. And just keep these people in your thoughts, honestly. I mean, and you know,

vote for policymakers that believe in climate change. Yeah. If you guys actually, if you guys have ideas for how to help, do a DM me. You can. I will read them. I feel very helpless in the situation

and I would love to know who needs help how to help, you know, different creative ways that we can put our platform behind that. So you can DM us. Yeah. You can DM me. I don't want to put Ashley. But thank you.

I've done some already. I've donated already. DM Rana. Oh my God. I can't believe we just said that. We'll see. We'll see what happens. But anyway, so you guys are in our thoughts.

If you've had to flee where you live, I mean, I've never seen anything like it. It's the pictures. I can't believe it. And just from him, he went outside and took a video. He's not even where the fires are. I mean, I guess they're probably like 40 miles away. But it's just, it's really so heartbreaking.

I just like get something about it. It feels otherworldly. If you guys are interested in like, how does this happen? What's the next steps? The Daily has done two really good episodes this week about it, about Oregon, about California, and about why we keep building on these sites that are fire zones. So if you guys are interested in learning more, check it out. But you guys are in our thoughts and prayers. We were just thinking of you. For sure. So, yeah, so it's fall. It's like 69 degrees. It's my favorite season.

I don't think that's a favorite one or two. That one week in the fall? One week in October. One week in the fall. Because I feel like it becomes fall And I'll let people look forward to And then it's just cold But that one week Right Because climate change

You know So we have another live show update We're going to Nashville Yes Nashville Oh my God So we were supposed to be there On July 9

On July 9th For your birthday show Birthday Yeah Yeah we were really looking forward To it It was our third show ever Or second show ever

Nashville Ganey Well third show but second, like on the road, we did our first show in New York on September 12th of 2018. We did our second show in Atlanta. We did our third show ever at Zanis. Do you remember the date? It was exactly two years ago.

Yeah, it was exactly two years ago in October, I think. Oh, that we're doing it. We're coming back. Oh, my God, that's so funny, yeah. So we love Nashville so much. We're so much fun there. We love Zanies. It's so fun.

It's such a great club. We have some friends that have performed there recently. So, of course, all restrictions will be followed. Lots of safety measures to make sure that you guys are safe and content. And we will be there October 16th and 17th. Weekend shows. Okay, so two shows.

The first one's at 6.30 p.m. As of now. So Nashville has a curfew that they're taking really seriously, which is 10.30 p.m. So everything is be shut down by 10.30. So our shows are at 6.30 and 8.30, and there's nothing we can do about it. And again, it could change.

I don't know what that looks like because people playing around it. But that's what it is right now. You know, like Raina said, everything is being done. to ensure your guys safety. We've checked with people that are performed there. We're constantly asking around to make sure.

And your ticket processing fees go towards things like security measures, extra staff, all the things. And people that are too rowdy, get kicked the fuck out. They did at Jared Show. I heard someone like who had to leave. So be safe. Be responsible and come out. And if you don't feel safe, don't come out.

But if you do, October 16th and 17th, tickets on girls gotypodcast.com. Yeah. Just, you know, poke around the website because I'm obsessed with it. Yeah, just poke around. Ohio shows are definitely sold out. So thank you guys who bought the tickets to Cincinnati, Columbus, and Cleveland. We'll see you one week. I can't believe it. The first light, how nervous were you booking flights? I was so nervous. That you were going to fuck it up? That I was going to fuck it up. I checked it like 10 times. Yeah. I got so nervous. And then booking a car, I got scared. I know. I was like, is this the right flight? Like, I haven't done this in so long. How do we do this? We'll book that holiday in. Delta. So we'll see you guys soon. Just a little word about merchandise. We know that it's taking a little long.

We are working with the new companies. So just working out the kinks in terms of how long things take. If you guys have questions about your orders and when you're getting them, just shoot us and email the support contact is on the website. And we'll get you an up-to-date listing, an up-to-date email, listing, email on how long it's going to take. But thank you guys for your patience. We're working out the kinks.

We're excited to get you all the cool new merch that we have. Yeah. that's most of our housekeeping updates. What's it? I'll do like a date update. No, I won't actually. I'm giving you a date update that I'm going to do a date update next week. Okay.

So last week I told a story about this crazy date I went on with one of our listeners. Mom's booty call was my server at this restaurant. She did listen and she said I could talk about it. So she came back and said, I do think he can fuck because Raina asked. And then she was like, did the like puke face. I just knew it. I knew that anybody with that name, Fox. And something kind of like interesting is happening with this guy.

We've knock on out again. We're in communication. I'm going to save it for next week. I want to see how it plays out this week. I don't want to like jump ahead and like analyze the situation quite yet. So next week we'll, we'll unpack it because it's been kind of like annoying. I don't know. I'm fine.

I don't care. But it's been kind of like interesting and something that I feel like women deal with in terms of like communication, but not having to date on the books, whatever. We'll talk about next week and we'll unpack it. I'm not trying to like blue ball you guys, but I think we'll wait for two weeks. For definitive statements. Yes, for definitive statements. Yes. And I got a little something else in the mix too. You do? Craig you know. Oh, that. Oh yeah. You really got something. Guys, I'm so excited. We're both about to get boyfriends. Oh my God. No, I'm not. But I actually am really, really committed to dating so that I have like really

crazy shit to talk about on stage in Ohio. Yeah. I'm doing. doing it. Also, so, okay, this subtitles into what I wanted to tell you. I did a really embarrassing thing last night and I think that I'm just going to commit to it for the future. So I kind of like this guy and I started stalking his ex via my Finsta, which I just, I like to check in with her and just make sure I'm still prettier than

she is. For sure. You know, I just got to know. And I have a fintzda. Is she exercising as much as you? No one is exercising as much as me. Okay. Not even me. Literally no one on earth. Like Tom Brady does not exercise as much. Okay. So I like, I thought I was on my finsta. She had like a thousand slides up.

I went through all of that. Oh my God, what a jackpot. I went to like 25 slides. That's amazing. And then, so last night I had two drinks with one of our girlfriends. I got, I went home. I like smoked a little bit and I like went through, you know, whatever. So then I go in my fintzda this morning and I really she still has like that pretty

early in the morning. She still had that like pink dot around the thing. Like I hadn't stories out. And it takes me back to the beginning. And I was like. Oh my God. I watched it from my real Instagram. No, no.

I'm like sweating. My 400,000 followers verified Instagram. Like, you don't miss it. It'll be at the top. It would be hard to miss my Instagram watching your stories because she has significantly less. I watched all of them. By your, from your own? You did not.

Yes, I did. Raina, no, you didn't. Yes, I did. All of them. No. But that's it. I have tears coming to my eyes. Like, I did not know.

I thought you were going to say. And then it was something. mistake. I feel like I'm going to cry. Are you okay? I am okay. I'm excited to double down on it and just follow her. Just keep doing it. Oh my God. I feel like this is kind of a funny power move. If you're dating the guy. I am not dating this person. So now she's probably like what's going on here. Who is this girl? Who is this girl? And so like my first thought would be like my man's fucking this girl, which he's not fucking me. But so I watched this whole thing and then I just started thinking like if you're like you're a man's X or something.

Like it's such a power move to do it from your personal Instagram account. You're like, I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. You're going to do block me. I'm just going to make it. I'm going to switch to my Finsta and stock you. You're going to make it mildly more inconvenient for me to stock you.

You're going to make me take two more seconds to go to your account. I think it's a really funny power move. That is so funny. Oh, my God. Yeah, it is funny when you see somebody slip up. that I love that meme. Oh, right. That one that the girl was like, I noticed that my ex's new girlfriend accidentally

liked one of my posts. It's like, it's okay, girl. It's happened to the best of us. You know. I hope she has as much generosity of spirit as that girl. That is so funny. Drugs will get you. I know.

A little bit of pot, like three hands a pot. I still call it pot. I'm like, I smoke weed every day. It's like a boomer. But yeah. But I was excited to tell you that. I was like, what am I going to talk about today? And then I was like, oh, shit.

Oh, shit. It's a power move. I'm just going to keep doing it. Just double down every day. You're the first one to watch. And that's a thing. Like, what if I commented on her thing? Like, first.

Oh, first comment. I'm so dead. Okay. Well, other updates, I got back to stand up. It was a show since March. You tell your story and then I'll hype you. No, it was just fun. It felt really good.

I mean, I wasn't, I guess I was like a little bit nervous to an extent. but it felt like just getting back. It felt super natural the second I like got up on stage. On stage, it's not really a stage. Former guest of ours Ashley Gavin. Her episode was called We're Having Gay Sex, also the name of her podcast. She does like this cool outdoor distance, safe. You have to wear your mask the whole time show in Brooklyn.

And I did it and it was great. It was super fun. It was really great to see you do it. And so I was laughing out loud, like hard laughing out loud. I was like, should I pipe this down? I had a really fun time. I did too. And then the late one, like the crowd was like the energy.

you was so fire, but something that happened during the first one was literally during a punchline that I had that I basically scream the dildos, scream the word dildos into the night, we're outside. And as I did this punchline, I hear the audience go like, and all like, like they seem distracted. No one really laughed at my punchline. I was like, what the fuck? And in my mind, I was like, that was so funny. Yeah, it was a new joke. I was like, what is wrong with you guys? How did this not hit? And then I am kind of like, well, fuck. And someone from the audience goes, a rat just ran a cross like the front like there's no stage again I'm like we're outdoor and a back the rat just ran across my path in front of me I'm glad it was a rat because when no one laughed at

that I was like what is happening at this place yeah people like really hit the harsh line hard it's like the the sound they made was almost that that was offensive and it wasn't like I was like oh my god this is like it was such a heavy lesbian crowd given the host you know and I was like they didn't like the dilldo joke and then someone said her rat I was like That's the most New York thing. It's so New York, 2020 comedy. I just, I just, it was a pleasure to watch you. It made me really happy.

It was really fun. And then we went out afterwards, or not out, but we went and got, we walked across the street. We walked across the street. Got like dinner drinks with Andrew Collin. And you revealed something that I wish you would have to stay for the podcast, but I'm not going to try to fake a reaction because I do already know. And it is shocking. Well, you would only, I only told you one sentence and then I did not finish.

Okay, you haven't elaborated on it. But tell the audience, Raina. I'm honestly glad we're doing this here and not at my place where they can hear it. I don't care about the plants anymore. I cannot. If you guys have watched my Instagram stories or you like see me go to plant stores every day. I have like dozens of plants at home. I have 50 plants.

You have totally 50 plants. Like they are covering my kitchen, my bedroom, my living room. Every space I have a desk and there's at least 20 plants on the desk. It's because you exercise now. You just replaced your one hobby or your one interest with another interest. That's 100% what's happening. But they're like living organisms. You just don't care.

I'm going to come get some. I can't let them die. I can't let them die because I care about them and they're my kids. And I can't even tell them I don't like them. That's why I have to come here to tell you that I don't like that. You have to come over here to reveal it. You're a deadbeat mom. Every morning I've been working out every single morning.

My routine used to be that I would like water the plants. Now I don't want to. I talk to them. I love them. Mommy still cares about you. I haven't been doing it. I just don't care. And now I've like committed.

I've committed to dozens of plants. Yeah. But you think this would happen to me as a real mom? Probably. A year and a half in, I'd be like, postpartum plant mom. That's so funny, yeah. Okay, well, I do want to come get a few. Just pick a few that you love the least.

Just pick a few that you've really turned on and all. Rehome them. I'm going to rescue them. Adoptive. Raina starts a plant rescue. I will send you an application for adoption. I want to know that you are a fit parent. I want to know that there's going to be quizzes about the plants on the application.

What if we started a whole adoptal shop, plant movement? We don't support enough causes, guys. We thought we need to throw another one in the mix. Oh, my God. Well, thank you for sharing your truth. I mean, yeah, it's not like you're just going to, like, murder them all. Like, you're going to still take care of them, but you just don't love that anymore. That's what I would do with my kids after the age of two before the age of, like, 21.

Right. For like 19 years of their life. I just, I love that. At what age your plan is like self-sufficient? Like you can kick them out of the house. Like at what point are they 18-year-olds that you're like, you've got to leave or you got to pay rent? I'm at that point mentally. I'm done with them.

I just don't care about that. And I've really let my mouth cash a big check because there is. I have sunk thousands of dollars into this hobby. Wait, what is that saying? I forget it right. Your mouth. I just wrote a check of my mouth wrote a check. of my mouth wrote a check.

Your mouth wrote a check that like your something can't cash. Your bank can't cash? Your bank can't cat. All right guys. Well, we are so excited. She just walked in. Hi, Cal. We're going to redo this, but we'll keep it. But anyway, Kelly is here. And Raina, do you want to tell people about Kelly?

Yes, I do. Again, we have a very special returning guest of the show in the House studio today. She is a tarot card reader. a healer. She's founder of the Modern Mystic Shop in Ponce City Market in Atlanta where Ashley and I actually had our second show ever and she is one of Ashley's BFFs. She has maybe the best hair of anybody who sat on this couch.

Definitely top three. Please welcome to the house studio Kelly Knight. Thank you so much. Ashley has a little bit of a relationship with Kelly's hair. Did you know that when you mentioned it? I did because we talked about it two and a half years ago almost when you were on the show the first time. She's obsessed with it. I hope it's amazing. But she cut it all off.

at one point. Yeah. That was a bad idea. What the fuck? Why would you do that? I used to get so jealous of it. Kelly just used to like run around and like slut up New York and like teeny tiny shorts and cowboy boots and this long hair. That is true.

I wanted to. Same bohemian. She hit the apps. You were in like plenty of fish. No, I was on, um, OKCupid. Okay. But it was like the first app. And it was, it was new that whole like geo-targeting kind of dating situation.

Uh-huh. And we would come up with nicknames for every single. Yeah. dude until I liked them. And then they got the real name. It is so funny to think about that that you were like doing that before like Tinder. Honestly, I still lived in my old apartment. You were talking to some guy in OKCupid getting all juiced up.

I was like, relaxed. You remember you could geo tag people. You could like fuck a person across the street. Like they've taken that off straight apps. It's only on Grindr. And I was like three blocks from here. I'm right here. I lived three blocks from here during that time.

Well, you know, she lived a babua. Yeah. The greatest bar. in the entire world. The greatest date spot when you live on top of it. And so I have got 100% close rate at Bua. I have never not fucked after Boa.

And I went on a date with somebody and we did fuck that night. And I was 10 minutes late to Bua because I'm always seven to 10 minutes late to a date. I just don't want to be there first. If you think it's rude, I don't care. Don't DM me.

And I got there and I sat down and he was like a funny guy and I go, I'm sorry, I'm late. And he was like, no, it's no worries. I was like, I love upstairs. Like just to fuck with him. And he was like, wait. really. I was like, no, but my friend used to. I don't know why I'm going down this road. I thought it would be funny and so fucked up to be like, yeah, I lived upstairs.

I was just watching the clock. I think it's such a flex. It's like, I just want you to know that I didn't bother to show up on time. I could have. I actually watched you sitting here for the back. I've been watching you decide if you were worthy of me coming down. DMing the bartender and being like, see, there yet? 100% close rate of Bua. Okay. I was a pioneer. I was a pioneer at the East Village App Life. Well, you look great. Thank you. And you said, so you and Ashley go way back.

I don't know what you're going to talk about yourself and tell people like who you are. We always say our favorite, my favorite question is, you know, we're going to talk about spells and we're going to talk about terror reading and things like that today. So what gives you the right to talk about this? I'm a fucking witch. Yeah, she's a witch. And we can talk about how we'll like Kelly tell what gives her the right. And then we can talk about how she predicted our whole career. Yep.

And she has a new book out and all the things. But mainly I will say probably a decade of metaphysical experience. And when I say experience, it's like I do these things, these woo-woo things, and then get the result I want, or I'm able to sort of predict or foresee or chart the path through these tools. And so I don't know. My sister is a good example. She's a scientist.

And she doesn't believe in any of these things. But she does say to me, I know you and I know you're not a liar. And so I believe in this stuff. because you wouldn't be puddling snake oil for people, you know? So. Well, and there's like proof. Like you like talk to our friends, dad, dad. You know what I mean?

Like, you predicted my whole life. Like, you've said stuff like that just, I remember I'm not going to say what it was, but we were sitting at my couch one time and you had this revelation about this guy and you go, shit, I wonder if and you said what literally happened a month later, like you just have like predicted so many things. So your time tested. Yeah, I would say. I've got a good track record.

But I will say about predicting, this gets a little multidimensional, but I do think that there are different timelines that are available for us and different outcomes. And I think what psychic people do is sort of tap into the one that has the most energy behind it or the most momentum, the most probable outcome. But there's always the opportunity for if you want a different outcome to take different steps so that you can change it. And so that's why it's good to get reading sometimes,

because like, oh, I don't want to be going down that path. Well, then we just ask what steps you could be taking to change that outcome. I don't think it's always predetermined. We all have free will. 100%. For sure. For sure. But I'll just give the quick thing, or I'll just give the quick background.

We probably said it on your episode before, but I feel like I need to update it since we've started touring. So anyway, you and I sat down June 2017, and we did a full terror reading. We talked about relationship stuff. That all was accurate and came true. and then we laid out a card for all the parts of my career at that point. Of course, if you guys know the history, I hadn't met Raina until October, but we pulled cards on like my Instagram stuff, my stand-up comedy, my merch store, like all these things.

And you literally predict them every single one. And then we pulled a card for the podcast. If you guys know the story, I wanted to start a podcast with a guy friend of mine. We didn't. Obviously, I felt like it wasn't right. I wanted to start it with somebody else. It had kind of been in the back of my mind, but I still wanted to do it. And Kelly was like, you have to do this.

This is the thing. I promise you. It doesn't have to happen tomorrow. But like, this is it. And so that was one part of it. And then, this is so crazy. You, we're talking about my stand-up and you said, I feel like I'm going to cry. You were like, you're going to be on stage performing, but it's not solo stand-up.

It's going to be like something else. And I see you, we can pull the, we can run the tape. I have the recording still on my phone. It was like, you're going to be performing. I don't know if you said touring. Like you're going to be a big deal performing, but it's not going to be you doing solo stand-up, which is exactly what we do. Like, it's just you, nothing you said wasn't a hundred percent accurate.

And I also said you needed a woman partner. Yeah. I was like, don't do it with this guy. I was like, you need to do it with another woman. Like, because I still think maybe it was wavering on him and you were like, that's not it. Yeah. It's not the guy. And it's crazy that you predicts is something that you don't see very often.

Like two women performing on stage together in comedy, like you almost. never see something like this. So you predicted something that like you don't even really see very often. So you had no like, I mean, I guess other people have done this before maybe once. But never. It's not the norm. So it's crazy that you predicted something like that. And that's the thing like when you have intuitive gifts and I'm sure, I mean, I know

Ashley's very intuitive, you just start to trust it. And it's like you have to have no ego to say, I don't even understand what this is that I'm getting a sense for or how it's going to happen. But you just got kind of throw it out there and you, and then you see. Yeah. Tap into that intuition. But we want to move on and hear about your spellbook. Yes.

Oh, my gosh. Spells for the Modern Mystic. So this is sort of the culmination of part of my personal spiritual practice where my husband and I partnered on this book. First of all, I kind of can't believe that Harper Collins, a mainstream publisher, is publishing my witchy book in five countries. Oh, my God. That's kind of, I mean, if you think about even 2016,

I don't think this was possible. There's been a big shift with women particularly, like really trying to get in touch with their intuition, harness their power, and be more intentional with what they do and how they create their lives. So this started because we were selling these spell kits that were, there's five of the spells that are featured in here, but there's spells that I use and my husband has used to actually direct our lives and make changes. and someone was like crazy enough to say, yep, let's publish it and let's make spells mainstream.

And so it's a book and there's candles and oils and all the things that you need for all of these rituals are either in the book or like in your house. Do you want to like, we're getting witch with it. Walk us through a ritual. Like what are the spells for? So we put them in different chapters. So there's one for protection and clearing. So like that would be, these would be spells that are for your just.

general energetic hygiene or if someone's coming at you, like I've used our get the fuck out spell for protection when there was like someone that was being sort of aggressive towards me and my business and derogatory towards it. And that person was eliminated, not it didn't die. Was eliminated. I know. It's eliminated. So basically, you know, they weren't a problem anymore. You leveled the threat. Oh my God. You know, don't fuck with me. I'm just kidding. And so there's rituals like that. There's rituals to help you get in touch with your lineage and your ancestors because little known fact is that those are the energies or the spirits in our life that have the

most impact because they actually have skin in the game. So I believe that part of what we do here is we elevate our lineage. And we see that in, you know, not just with deceased loved ones, but you know how your parents always want their generation to do better than them. Well, that's also true with the deceased loved ones. And you sort of elevate everyone. So there's a chapter about ancestral rituals and then what everyone wants to know, love and money. Money.

Love and money. Transformation. So this is sort of like our self-help spells and then spaces. So how you can clear a space, how you can, if there's a house that you want or an apartment that you want, rituals to make sure that you get it. And just we just cover the basics, I guess, of what people come into our store asking about. Well, we want to read some things that our listeners want spells for it. Okay.

They're just, we put up a slot on Instagram. We asked me what they want spells for. Obviously, there was a lot of stuff about getting Trump out of office, a lot of weight loss stuff. So I tried to pick, we try to pick the most unique. Yes. Okay. I'll just do the first thought. I put that in there specifically for you, that first one.

Okay. Okay. Our girls got to eat snack heads. What spells for all my body hair gone, poof. No laser, no waxing, no shaving. Making the man who's not my man confesses undying love for me, feeling more confident like bippity boppity look at that haughty being able to read my man's mind i can never figure out what that mf is thinking not getting sweaty during sex not falling for every six-foot guy with

brown curly hair i see and interact with a fuck boy without a fuck boy attitude for my best friend's fiance to die it's it's harsh but he's truly the worst to cast a spell on my boyfriend to make him propose we'll talk about that for my ex to get a divorce and come back because i'm a dumb bitch one that was submitted. All right. And then continuing, ensuring my ex's new relationship doesn't last longer than mine. Stop time during an argument so I can come up with a dope comeback. That is my dream.

For my ex to have the worst blowjobs slash sex for the rest of his miserable life. Silent quefs. Go back in time and get knocked out by that one rich guy I used to fuck. I feel like that's your vibe. No, I've never fucked a rich guy. That's true. People with no money are my bad. Replying to all my emails,

do my laundry, vaguely and men lasting more than six minutes. She had a lot of stuff on her one list. For my mother to shut the fuck up. Someone to be obsessed with me, but also to leave me alone all the time. That would hit's different. finally a genie whispering good things in my ear to say during dirty talk in sex oh that is so

these are so good thank you for combing them our audience is so funny that like never let us down what was your favorite one to have a guy be obsessed to me but leave me alone 100% I run it down for you what was your one when I see you want your ex to leave his wife because you're a dumb bitch um for my mom to out the fuck up. Okay, Kelly, so literally give us a spell for each of one of these, especially the body hair. Okay, so we want to talk about kind of overarching themes of why spells even work. Like let's say you're really just a non-believer.

You're like, I'm not going to fucking light a candle out in the bathtub and do a spell. Like whatever. Can we talk about why they work in general? Yeah. And I think a lot of people think it is more magical than it actually is. There was a magical component, which is energy. And we all know that there are energies that we can sense that you don't see with your eyes. So if you were to walk into a room a minute after someone was fighting, even if they weren't

still engaged in fighting, you know, you can just feel like the thickness. Or when somebody's talking about you behind your back and you want to her room. Yeah. When your ears are burning. Yeah. So it's, to me, that's the easiest. Or when you get chills. Like we were talking about something.

You're like, I have full body chills. That's your body shifting or sensing the shift in the energy. So part of spellwork is energy, but a big part of it is your psyche. And that's why, you know, we do these things. Like you stare into a candle and you kind of put yourself into a meditative trance because you have to skip and kind of jump over the conscious mind to kind of clear out some of those beliefs that would block you. And most of what magic is is just getting the shit out of the way so that you can have

what you want because the universe wants you to have what you want. Does that make sense? It makes a ton of sense. And for me, like I'm somebody that's like, I'm not going to do a spell. That's what you have to look. It makes a lot more sense to me. And you and I were, the three of us,

where I'm out, like, setting intentions and what that can do. And that is sort of like a spell to me. Like, just shift your energy. And even when, like, I was walking over and I was, like, kind of down. And I was, like, in a bad mood. And I was listening to, like, a sad song. And I was like, why am I doing this? And so I, I, like, change the music to, like,

something more upbeat and my energy changed and my outlook on the situation changed. It's not like a spell to change the music on your iPod. But it is, but it is shifting. your iPod. Your Rhapsody on your iPod. It's Napster now. I like this idea, like for somebody who doesn't necessarily believe in spells, just to shift in energy and intentions and things.

I love that. Totally. So the goal is to become a vibrational match for what you want to call in. So when you actually are kind of doing magic in a way, when you're shifting the energy of the music, your energy is rising and you're going to be more likely to have synchronicities, chance encounters, you know, which I guess is a synchronicity, but attract the things that you want. Because, I mean, some people believe, or metaphysicists believe that the law of the universe is you've got to be a vibrational match for what it is that

you want in your life. And so the spell is just kind of like, what we call it technically, is alchemy. When you shift from the lowest point and feeling that experience to the highest point, that's what alchemy is and that's what we do in the spells. Or when we're walking down the street listening to our iPad, your iPod, whatever. You guys, you're getting your iPhone. I was just, your AirPods. I see where we got there.

I meant AirPods. Air pods on my iPhone. But when you think about your energy and the energy you attract yourself, like when I'm in a better mood and I'm feeling more outgoing, I do attract more men, better opportunities. I like fight for myself in a different way. You just, you're a different person in life. You show up differently.

Yeah. And this doesn't mean that you're not going to have negative experiences or that, you know, feeling depressed or having these natural emotions are not part of what it's like to be a human being. You just have to be able to like go through those and process those and not just shut them, shove them down. And then you will, you know, you'll rise back up. We're having a conversation earlier about desires. Yes. I think this is super important because I think, yes, sexual desires being suppressed, whether it's due to how you were raised, your religion, whatever it may be. But just to. desires in general, like not admitting to yourself that you want this thing. I think that people don't always even admit to themselves what they want. So maybe this is a way to draw that out of them. I don't know. You talk about it. Yeah, for sure. And it's more important than even, I mean, yes, it can be the thing. Like, I want the job or the man. But it's even more important to get in touch with what that feels like. That's the magic. It's like actually feeling in your body what it would feel like to have a loving, committed relationship and be making a million dollars a year and to

do all of these things that you want. And so, yes, it's really, these rituals will help you basically create a target for your desires. It's like the ritual is like a bull's eye. It'll help you hit that exact thing or that exact feeling through transformation. It's not like necessarily a shortcut. We actually, most of the time, you have to kind of sift through the opposite of those feelings, what it feels like to feel destitute or unwanted or whatever, and then you switch into the gear of the thing that you want. Does that make sense? And that actually transforms you. It transforms your beliefs. And then you kind of hold that frequency to match whatever it is that you want. Am I making sense? Are I being too good? No, you are. I really like, I was in

thrall about what you're saying. Oh, great. It's kind of like doing some work. Like it's not just like sprinkle a powder and you're going to get a husband tomorrow. Like I think it's like truly believing it. Like, I don't think we talked about this because it was like a little too close to when it was happening. But I had a situation, I think I told Kelly, obviously, right after it happened, where I felt like I kind of wanted somebody in my life, like, romantically. And I told you this. And I, like, said it out loud for the first time to a friend over at brunch. Like, he was asking me, like, what do you want? Do you want to be single? Do you want somebody? And I was like, you know what? I actually do, like, want somebody. I don't want a boyfriend. I don't want a husband necessarily. But, like, I want some intimacy and I want somebody that I'm excited about. And I haven't dated anybody in a long time. And I, like, I actually do. And. And And that was a Saturday. I, like, actually, like, laid in bed that Sunday night and thought about it really hard. Like, genuinely felt it for the first time in probably a year and a half or two years that I really did want a guy to be excited about and, like, lay in bed with, you know, and things like that. And that was a Sunday night. And that I, like, met a guy Monday.

Yeah. Like, the next day. Like, and we dated. I mean, we're not together now, but, like, it was actually what happened and it was short-lived was exactly what I did ask for. And I think even prior to that, I didn't actually want it. So even if I did think I did and I lit a candle, I actually wouldn't have really wanted it. It wouldn't have been the right time.

I wouldn't have felt it deep in my soul. And so it's like I set the intention and it happened. I mean, it doesn't always happen like that, but like it happened the next day. It can definitely happen that fast too. And that's the thing with manifestation, I think the biggest block that people have is thinking that things have to take a while. It's like, don't set a time limit on it. It can happen instantly.

This stuff can happen instantly. I think we were talking about desire earlier, like why it's so hard. People would admit that they like have desires. I was like, why is it so hard? But to me it's like admitting that number one, there's a pitfall in your life that you haven't been able to fill. And like that you have maybe played a part in creating that. And, you know, saying out loud, I want this thing. Ashley, I actually had like a long talk in the car because she's my therapist about like why I haven't been in a serious relationship.

Kelly, my therapist. Yeah, three generations. I had that thought. I was like, yeah. We're exactly, we're kind of here. Our relationship's kind of similar to me and Kelly. Anyway. So I was like, maybe you should go to therapy. I was like, Ashley, shut up.

I was in the car and I was about why I hadn't been in like a really serious relationship for a long time. And then we started talking about like, what's the pattern? And, you know, what have I allowed myself to be in these type of situations for? And once I'm in them, how do I manage them? And even like saying out loud, like, I want something healthier and I want something better has at least helped me to like apply that to current situations and be like, oh, I recognize a pattern. I do want this thing.

and I do want something better and I'm not going to keep doing this thing. You know, every day is a struggle. But every day will get better. You're working at it. I am. I mean, it was scary to me that even like I was like upset for like two days after we had this talk because I like realized I like really want something really

deep and meaningful. And even like talking about why I haven't been able to achieve that in a long term sense for a while, it really like got me down. But it was important to me at least to admit that I had the desire. Yes, for sure. And I think we block our desires or we limit our desire. right? And then it shows up in a reality that way and we're like, well, this is close enough sometimes, you know. But I think it's great that the real key to what you're saying is like actually getting in touch with the emotion of the desire. And sometimes we've got to go through a lot of grief or sadness or disappointment to get there. And I think that's why a lot of people sometimes don't. Because we try to avoid the sadness that's the opposite. Like we live in a planet that has a lot of polarity. We see it political. right now, like we were talking about. But even emotionally, we have the polarity where it's like,

well, in order to feel the good thing that I want, I actually have to get in touch with where I don't have that. And people avoid dealing and doing that work. But if you do that work, then you actually have access to the opposite expression of it. So you're doing great. Do you say stuff out loud? Is that part of it? I just think there's so much to that. I think that's why people do affirmations and stuff. like saying stuff out loud feels so unnatural to some people, I think. And like, I bet that's so much part of why they work. Yes, for sure. Actually saying it out loud.

Yep. And it's also part of magic is sound and it's your sound current. And that's what we call your voice. And so it's like you're actually projecting the frequency of what you want into the universe We call it the astral, which is a little... Girl, we know astral. We'll say... Oh, because you had...

Michaela's talk about Astro dreams. Ashley and I've been fucked up for weeks. Two weeks after our ORA episode with Mystic Michaela, we were fucked up. We were fucked up. No, we love her. We love her. We had crazy dreams for two weeks after. Yeah.

So, yeah, so that anyway, your sound... It's going to happen again. Tell you get out of here. Goes into the Astero. roll. And so it taps like this unseen realm and it calls it in, you know, a little bit closer. But yeah, there's a lot of mantra. Also, you know, in the book, we call in, we like angels. So angels are high vibrational frequency that you can call in to help you. And when you actually like call their names, that's how you match them and raise your vibration. So sound like music isn't

surprising that that is a mood shifter for you because sound really does shift energy. I wonder also, tell me if I'm wrong. Is there part of it that's almost like vulnerability too? Like for you to be alone in your home or whatever doing a spell like to ask for this thing you want, that's like some vulnerable stuff. Like yeah, maybe you being so open to it helps draw it in too, right? Totally. And it's it's you wanting it with like the truest, deepest part of yourself. So the first time I had a ritual that I did it, it worked amazing. It was the road opener ritual. And I did that ritual, like my life depended on it because I was in a place where I was very depressed, immobile.

And you know me for a long time. That's not my natural state of being. And so it was pretty serious. And so my husband gave me the road opening ritual to do. And I did it with, like, my, I was at my lowest point, very vulnerable. And with the fullest commitment I can do it. Because I had nothing to lose. And it really works.

And we say one of the keys to ritual, too, is that insane. belief. You actually need to feel a little crazy about how much you believe this thing is happening. There's no other option than to get this result. And then you do it like that and you let it go. You don't keep on engaging it. You let it go and just know

that it worked and that the answer's coming. And this is how you got a husband too, right? Yeah, a husband. This is how I got a husband. This is how I got a house. This is how I got a Good Morning America. This is how I grew a seven-figure business in like two years. Oh my God. I mean, this shit worked. I'm, I was, I'm very practical.

Like, I don't waste my time. I'm very efficient. If this didn't work, I would do something else and write a book about that. But this works for me. I really resonates with me because I feel like this just, this way of thinking and this way of putting energy out, it really informs how you show up in the world every single day. And like, if you don't necessarily believe in like spell books again, like, it just, it affects your entire life.

And if you're like, I will be a badass. I will be successful. then everything you do every day is informed by that. And you're like, am I doing something today to be badass? Am I doing something today to grow my business? Like, you took crazy risks and chances. And look, you got a boyfriend and then a husband. And then a house and then go to work in America.

And then a million-dollar. So tell us that we, of course, people want to hear about the husband, which, yeah, you were dating. It wasn't like you plucked somebody off the street. But like, can you tell us about your ritual to. Yeah. What happened for me was I was in a habit of dating under my league. you were part of that whole experience in New York or whatever. But I kept on dating the same type of person with a different face over and over again.

And so I decided to no longer date completely because I had to intercept the pattern. Like I didn't know. I tried not to, but it kept on happening even though I would date some guy and like, he's so different. But really, just because he has a different job doesn't mean he doesn't have the same bullshit stuff that I was dealing with. Absolutely. So I decided I wasn't going to date for, I think I'd give him. myself a month and I created this ritual where every day for that month I would light two candles

at night. One was for me that represented me and one was for my future partner and I put my hands over my heart and I would imagine like us doing the work that we needed to do to meet each other. After I did that for a month, I decided I was going to do it for six and not date and that I actually decided at six months to do it for a year. So I didn't date for a year and I did this ritual every single day and towards the last 10 months. That's when Brandon and I, my husband now became friends and it kept him kind of like trying to date me, but I was like, no, I'm this far. I said I was going to do it for a year, you know? So we developed a friendship in that time. And then very shortly after we started dating and then we got married kind of fast,

like a year maybe. But I attribute it to this. It helped me break the cycle and break the pattern. and I would put just that much energy, like five minutes a day and then not obsess about it the rest of the time. And I think there's something to that, whether you do this ritual or another one, it's like, okay, if you want something in your life, do something productive to add energy to it without obsessing about it, which then takes the energy away. You just got to do it it and leave it. Yeah, and don't fuck a cute guy the day you meet him. No, you got to wait. You got to wait for it. That's right. That's right away. All that, and that arena was like, no, back to me. an agreement. I'm like, yeah, you don't suck off every person you meet a Bua. You just don't do it.

You go back upstairs to your apartment. But you know the reason why you don't? Did you know because it engages, it just engages the energy of the thing that you don't want. Do you know what I mean? No, explain it. Oh, sorry. So like, no, I want you to run back. I was in the explain it to me like I don't understand it. Yeah, like, and I'm not saying you. I'm just saying you universally or the me that's in that pattern. Basically, I had to stop texting or flurting or flirting or doing all of those things because it engages the energy of the opposite of what I want,

which is like I want the committed relationship, but I keep on putting the energy and engaging the lesser type of interaction, right? So it's just, it's detracts. For me, that's what I experienced. So then I was like, okay, I'm going to cut this part off for now for a specific amount of time. I'm going to add energy this way and only this way.

So it's not two steps forward, one step back. Because you ever feel that way? Yeah. We're getting somewhere. Yeah. Kind of like backslide. If you fully commit the other way, then it speeds it up. Yeah, I mean, I've gotten into these scenarios where I'm just like texting into eternity about nothing.

And if you show up with a different intention, get a better outcome. Yeah. And I will say the first several weeks that I decided to not date anyone, I was asked out on the subway. I had never been asked on the subway. I was asked on the subway several times. All of his ex-boyfriends. Yeah. Every ex I ever had came out from the grave.

It was like a zombie apocalypse. Like COVID. Everybody. It was like a pandemic. Yes. It was a pandemic of exes and fuck boys. Like not even real exes. Like anyone that I'd ever met on OkinCupid, I feel like within the first few weeks was like, hey girl.

You can smell it. And you're like, nope. And then that reinforces like I'm really going this way. It's almost like you get tested. I love that you said that like for people to keep in mind. Like this could happen. And then just don't fall into that mindset of like, well, maybe they were the one. The universe is just testing you.

Yeah, it's like, it's just pushing back a little bit. And you know, you've got energetic ties to people. So it's like they can still fill you, especially if you sleep with them. Like they can still fill you unless you really cut those cords. So in the book we said, suggest 40 days minimum. That's like a 40 day of practice. To like to not, yeah. Like, you don't date.

Like you don't, we get pretty hardcore. It's like don't text. Don't engage in those like behaviors that take you down that path. It's like if you're, I'll be it. alcoholic. You're like, I'm just going to have one drink. It's like, that's going to derail the whole thing. It's like, just commit for a 40-day drive period. Like, you do like, I don't know, what do people do? They don't drink in January or whatever. I love that you said 40 because one time you told me I had to do that your thing and I was like, I can't do it. And then I actually met somebody

that I dated seriously. Like, there was a point at like the end of 2014 and I was like all kind of fucked up with some guys and you were like, I think you should do this thing. And I was like, I don't want to. And then I actually did get a boyfriend. So I didn't have to. But for the rest of you, loser. Which that's, which that's in work out anyway. And it was crazy toxic and I took up all Kelly's time talking about every day. But anyway, what I'm saying is it was intimidating to me and the thought of a year made me like really for sure. So 40 days is so doable.

It's 10 days longer than a month. You guys know how that works. But I like that you said, we know how to count days. So 20 days shorter than two months. And I want to. Thank you. Right. I want to bring this up because I have a girlfriend.

doing this right now. She is doing a complete dating detox where she's not listening to our podcast and she's a huge fan. So she's like, apologize. She's like, I'm not listening to you guys. I'm not listening to Jared. She listens to us and Jared. I hadn't told you. Is this one of our fans that listen to the show? No, it's a friend. Ashley's best

friends with all the audience. You would think it would be me, but it's Ashley. I know. It's so funny. You never see us coming. It's a friend and she just had this thing with her ex and it's just really she need to step back and like I like that she even took the content off the table.

Yeah, that's smart. Like, she's doing this. I don't know if she had a day, if she had a timeline, probably 30 days, but like, I, 40's great. I mean, obviously, that's, there's a reason behind it. But, like, I just love that messaging of, like, cut it all out. The, all of it. Like, all of it. Because it gives you that serotonin or that dopamine.

Yes, that's what you hit. Absolutely. It's feeding the addiction. So we do 40 days because it's enough time to rewire your brain and create a new pattern. That's why it's part like, this is like psycho-spirituality in a way, you know? And so that's a good amount of time. And then you can decide after 40 days, I'll do it another 40 days or not. You know, I didn't start out doing it for a year.

I just kept extending it because you're right. Your psyche is like, fuck that. That's how I exercise. There you go. I'm just going to exercise this week for one more minute. There you go. Just give me one more minute. I have a question to go, like, to continue this though.

Because we talk about like when like you'll hear from an ex the day you decide you're over it. you're like finally happy again. And like why, like how do they know that it's time to slide in and ruin your life again? Yeah. I mean, metaphysicists would say, or I don't know what else to call them, but there are these cords. You basically have cords or ties with people. And then from a kundlini yogic science perspective, which is my practice, every time when you have sex with someone, and we might have mentioned this last time, they actually enter

into what's called your arc line, which is one of your energy bodies. And so you have to actually like clean them out. So you've got to clean them out of your energy permanently so that they don't get these little pulls. It's almost like a puppet and you pull one of the strings. So that's really why. It's because we're all connected and they can kind of feel you pulling away. And even if they don't want to be with you, they have the same addictions. And when you're in, especially in relationships, you're in a relay.

Like you're both locked into the certain patterns. And so if the pattern is when you're together, when you pull away, get stronger, it's going to be the same pattern energetically, even if you're not together, because you've locked in. Does that make sense? Yeah. The tangent for me was like picking 40 days to not do this stuff and then your ex, like, learns that you're doing this. Or like just in the universe. Whether it's your serious ex or it's like that guy you fucked once and then kind of goes to Jew or whatever it may be. That like somebody you almost felt rejected by, they resurfaced. And it's so hard to not want for your ego to not want to indulge that because this person

rejected you. Right. And like our minds also will trick. us to say like, oh, it's a sign, especially if you're one of the spiritual kind. But then there's Carl Jung or Jung, they say different ways. He said, unless you make, until you make your unconscious conscious, it will direct your life and you will call it fate, which basically means unless you bring the pattern to the forefront, you're going to be having all of these synchronicities and signs, but it's really just you creating a circumstance that inhibit, that continues your pattern. And that's kind of what's happening. I'm like that emoji where the head to be floating. Yeah. So that's why we, I mean, we say like clearing and protection rituals

are the first thing in the book because that's what's going to get you clear of all of these entanglements. You know, if you have good energetic hygiene, just like if you have good physical hygiene, it will keep you from being yanked around by these ties. You can break them or break the contracts. What would you say to somebody that is doing a ritual, let's say, for kind of a dating detox style. Yeah. Like, do you have language for them to tell somebody that, like, asks them out? Like, what did you do?

Oh. You don't say, like, hey, I'm in the middle of this 40-day spell. Yeah. I'd be like, let me, I was used to be like, that sounds kind of hot. Like, let's roll play that. And I'm such a slut. I'd be like, let's go do that. Right now.

I'd be like, it's a sign. You can fuck me with this candle. Oh, my God. I mean, they do have crystal massage wazes. You just like stick a little candle in my B-hole while you fuck me. You don't want to get into B-Hull. Oh my God. Guys don't use the candles for sex play.

Okay. So did you... They're the perfect size. Oh. Oh, I just think, should we? What did you say? I think at the time I was just... I'm not interested.

Yeah. I mean, for the guys that I really didn't want to maintain any relationship with, I just didn't respond. You always getting text or whatever from the exes. Yeah, you can just ignore. But I mean, with Brandon, when he approached me, I said, I did actually tell him, but he's also like into this kind of stuff. So I said, you know, I'm not dating right now. That's usually what I would say. I'm not dating right now. And so that's that. It kind of puts the, sometimes though, it makes you like more

interesting to that person. So, which absolutely, we always say do nothing. Do nothing really hard to get. But I don't know if this is like makes sense with the topic. But I'm curious. Like when you meet this person like you met Brandon and you probably liked him, you know, you probably attracted to him. No, she didn't. You married. I didn't know. She ran screaming. I did like it. For the first couple years before that, I did not like him. Okay. Well, say, okay, girls are like in this scenario and they're like, I meet this guy,

but I'm like in month two of a four month detox or something. Like, what about all these like anxieties that like if I wait 30 days to be with this person, like are they going to move on? Are they not going to be with me? Like, what would you say to that? Because that for me would be my anxiety. We're like, what if I meet him during this time? Like, are you just supposed to trust that like the universe will put you guys back together

if you're meant to be? Well, I would say those voices are really good things to note because they're voicing your limiting beliefs around what's possible when it comes to love. So I would note that. Like, you know, during this time, you can probably do a lot of journaling or whatever. Like, what are the fears that come up when I take love off the table? Because it's, it does, a lot of us do have these addictions, like to these relationships or these ties. So I would say note them internally first and document because that's going to tell you sort of where your weak points. are and so that you can actually work on fortifying that.

Then I would say my argument would be every day that you're doing this ritual, you're getting more clear, you're getting higher vibe, and you're removing more of these blocks out of the way. So you will attract someone as either that your exact guy or better. And that's what we do with rituals. It's like, I want this thing or better. I want to make this much money or more. Do you know what I mean?

And so. Yes. It's so true. Like when you show up as a better person, you attract better people. Yes. Ooh. Go off. Right.

Well, I think that you just start to become a better person. You think that you deserve more. You become a more attractive partner. Ashton I always say, like, create this life that you're really proud of, have hobbies, have friends, have good relationships with your family. You will be a better partner and better people will be attracted to that. And people that are shitty people will be like, that's too far out of my league. Totally.

I can't fuck with that. Totally. And from an energetic perspective and maybe, like, you guys are, talking about oras and stuff, you know, but you will become more radiant. Like your, your, your radiant body is part of it, as part of your energy body. And you will be more magnetic. And you will be like so beautiful and you, it will have nothing to do with what you are physically. It's just like you will be magnetic. And that's when you really achieve something when it comes to dating, in my opinion, is like when you're really just like a magnetic person.

Well, and that and also like maybe just when you become more open in general, I feel like that was the experience I shared earlier of like there had to have been something about me that was open and approachable for this guy to walk up to me after that hadn't happened to me in so long. Like it's like I made the decision the 24 hours before to like be more open and like someone approached me. Like I wonder that has, yeah, aura, energy, all the things. You know what it just occurred to me about that situation for you also is you were at this

place that you and I go to a lot together and that was the only time I didn't come with you. The only time I didn't go with you at night. I was totally alone. Nobody came with me. Yes. And so you were physically more open because if I was there with you or our friends, you wouldn't have been like physically like body open. Yeah.

And I wasn't there. And I texted you and go, I think I just met somebody immediately. And I was like, I asked for this last night. And I was like, please don't leave me. Anyway,

it didn't work out. But no, like I just love the whole. Yeah. And I want to add to what you, I want to validate what Rana was saying about like the fear thoughts. Because I will say like, especially if someone goes,

to this 40-day detox, you will go through withdrawal symptoms. Like, you will see, I mean, it was really hard. Like you might get super sad or have all these, like all your insecurities elevate and come top of mind. And that's okay. And I just want to tell people to plan for that a little bit because they're like, why is this so hard? It's just like when you do like, I don't know if you ever done like a juice detox or whatever and you just get headaches and you're feeling weak for a minute. And then you feel amazing. You see a food commercial and you're like, you feel yourself.

You need that hit, though. it's so true. Like, I love that hit of like male attention. I was like, my ego was a little hurt yesterday about something. Yeah. I texted an ex. And then he called me and I like, got that hit. And it felt good.

What you should have lit a fucking candle. So is, is, you should have hexed him. Come on. Ashley hates him. I was going to light a candle about him. Is every spell in here is,

is 40 days? No, no, most of them you do one time. That is just like this ritual for the committed. It's called attracting a committed relationship. Okay. That's one of the,

the only, if not the only one that you do ongoing. The rest of them, you just can do, you do like one time, and then maybe you can do it again in a few months. But the one I would recommend, we recommend before doing that 40-day, there's one that's called removing blocks to love. You can knock it out in like an hour. Do that first, because then you kind of like clear your blocks, and then you go, it's sort of like taking a quick shower

and then going into this long-term ritual. But most of them, you just do one time. Okay. But they still take a little bit of time, right? Yeah, they take a couple hours. There's a lot of them do. That's what I like about it. This isn't a quick fix.

Like, it requires, like, something that you can do in five minutes. I wouldn't really trust that. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like there's got to be some commitment aspect of it to even get into a zone. Totally. Oh, my God. I missed the zone.

No. It's not like, when God, I'm livious. You know, like, it's not. No, to me, it's like there's so much internal. actual mental work that goes with it. It's not just like bibbidi-bobbidi-boop. Yeah. To me, Bibbidi-Bobby I'm a haughty.

Is that funny? I like that she wrote it rhymed. To me, there's so much mental work that goes through this, like, while you're doing this and you're doing it. I mean, I keep saying light a candle. You do light a candle. But, like, there's more, like, there's so much self-talk that's going on about, like, why am I doing these things?

And, like, somebody said, like, I want a spell to, like, make my man who's not my man, be my man. And I think while I was doing the spell, I'd be like, why am I keep, trying to force this person who's not my man, be my man. Why am I not looking for somebody else? Why am I accepting so little, which we always say in those situations, like, why are you accepting something that doesn't really make you feel so great? Unless there is hope that it will turn out, whatever, I'm not judging people. But for me, at least, there's a lot of mental stuff that goes on while you're doing these things and setting these intentions out into the world. For sure.

For sure. And we kind of guide you through how to not push those away. We want you to embrace the hard things, embrace the questions. And it's part of the alchemy, right? This part of the transformation. It's so great. I think you'd really like... I'm going home and doing this tonight. I'm skipping dinner. Raina's feeling I gave up working out. I'm doing spells now.

Yeah. No more plants. No more bike spells only. So I'm for it. I'm going to go home and chant about anything. There you go. I wanted to talk a little bit about career success related. And let's talk about it in broader terms.

Like what do you think are some of the things that hold people back from a greatness or achieving success and things like that. Like can we kind of have a conversation like we just did about relationships, but with career, success, money? Yeah, yeah. So we do have a wealth section. And my favorite is called Which Better Have My Money. I know.

I love that. I love that. Which better have my money. I think, I mean, it really comes down to worth. And I think it's the same thing with relationships. And when I work with clients, I do see that some of this stuff, sometimes you can be really great in one area of life and deficient in the other. But a lot of times there's similar patterns that will poke up

up or similar insecurity. So it's good that one's just easier for us to identify like, oh, I'm a little stuck here. But for me, I think it's like the, what I tell people about career is that you have to, and you actually kind of said this, whether you knew, you know all this stuff. You kind of said it, whether you knew it or not. But it's like, what would I be doing and what were the actions I would be taking if I knew what I wanted was waiting for me once I got there. Like how would I be behaving? What energy would I be holding? I think so many people are like, well, maybe, or I don't want to say it, or I'll jinx it, or possibly this could be the thing that happens. It's like, no. It's that, again, that commitment, that belief that this is where I'm going and that's the only acceptable outcome.

And then you start actually holding that frequency in your body and you start making decisions from that place, not from the maybe space. Okay. Does that make sense? Yeah. No, it does. And I want to validate. I love that you ask that because so many of like, what would you do a spell for was like, I want to find a better job. I want to make more money. A lot like I want to make more money. And I'm not going to get into it, but like there is a lot of scientific

studies that show that like once you meet a certain level of finance, the actual like increases in wealth don't make you happier. It's like finding a better job. Like people are like, I want more money. But I think what you're really saying, I mean, money's great. But what you're really saying is I want a job that makes me happy. I want to feel like I have a purpose. spoil what I'm supposed to be doing. I want to, like, fulfill, yes, I want to have a purpose.

I want to do something that makes me happy. And I think that, like, you show up to those opportunities when you feel like you deserve them. And you ask for them. And so many people stay in jobs, I think that they hate because they're like, what else am I going to do? What else do I deserve? Like, I'm not good enough to apply for other things. Right. Other people will apply for stuff they have no business applying for, which I've done my whole life.

But, like, I mean, honestly, like, I don't want to make it. But it works. So that insane belief, we literally call it insane. With ritual, the best way that it works is trying to, when it comes to money in particular or success, try to do the ritual for like one rung above your belief structure. So that's a little bit of a stretch. But it's not like the first wealth ritual you do. You're not going to be like, I want to make a million dollars. Okay. It's like, what is, what do you think you can do? I think I can manifest 10,000. Okay, cool. Try to manifest 12. And so you've got, you just do one rung and then you can do another ritual to get to the next rung because what happens is, you have to experience it. And once you experience that it worked, then your belief level, you raise the cap on what you believe.

And so I would try to do like in micro, sort of like these micro manifestations, and then look for the evidence that is coming. Because sometimes people will say, like, we'll want an X number of dollars, but it might not look like money in the bank. It might look like someone pays for your trip somewhere. It might look like, you know, other ways.

And so the universe, I always say it's like none of your business, how you get there. Like you just tell the universe where you want to go and it's some of your business. Like the universe takes care of that because if I had to, I would have never picked this trajectory for myself as how I got sitting in this chair today. Right. Well, we talked about resolutions and we talked about like to being back to business school like sparkles. And like it's not, it doesn't make sense to say I want to be rich. It makes sense to like a smart goal is like they're measurable, they're attainable, they're reachable, etc.

So like I want to be rich is not a goal. You know? It's like I want to like you have to make small actual measurable goals. And so I think that's what you're saying is like, yeah, don't say I want to be rich. Say, you know, I want to make $10,000 which is attainable. So set the goal at 12 and figure out how to work towards that. And I love that. Yeah.

And you'll get directed in certain ways. That's how I started. Like I didn't start manifesting huge things. But now I can manifest like really fast, like insane things. because I believe it now because I've had the experience. And that's the thing. It's like that's why you have the book with the tools because I want you to have the experience because I can talk to you about this for hours.

And if you haven't experienced it for yourself, you're probably not going to believe it. Yeah. It's like an opportunity to, yeah, to create yourself. That's what I like tell people. Like I was telling my brother about our podcast with Michaela and I've obviously told him about stuff that I've experienced with you. And it's like you don't need to believe you don't like it's so, it's, just what your sister said.

You don't have to believe in it, but you believe me. Right. So, like, you believe your sister, and I'm telling you that this thing happened. Right. So take it or leave it. You don't know, like, I don't care if you think it's stupid. This is the proof, so I don't care. Believe it or not.

People believe in God. You know, you believe in prayer. You believe in religion. There's really no proof. So it's kind of like, you know, it's all kind of like, you believe what you believe. But it's, that's what I think is funny when it's like, I don't know what to tell. you, this thing happened. How do you explain it?

Totally. And because more people are having these experiences, I don't know if you know, but spiritual, non-religious is the fastest growing, quote-unquote, religion in the United States right now. So a lot of people are having these, like, they're seeking, and they're looking for other ways, and they're looking for internalized ways to harness their own power as opposed to these externalized, like, pray to God. It's like, this is a way that you can actually activate your own energy.

and power. Yeah. That's real empowerment. And people are just like becoming like, I just want to, like, we talked with Tang Sinatra, I just want to live an honest life. You know, I just want to like, like, it's bullshit to think that you can just like run around and do terrible things and then pray it away. That's crazy.

I just believe in like the power of treating people how you want to be treated and like being a good person. You know what I mean? Like not because God says they should. I don't know. It's whatever. I thought we could do it a whole other talk on religion. I think that that's really interesting and like really correlates the way.

what's happening in the world right now too, where there's so many terrible things. I think everybody's like, what can I do to feel better today, to make the world better through just me today. And like, if it's not going to be like praying to God, then like, you know, maybe you've been going to church forever, your whole life.

Well, COVID's here and half the United States is burning down. So like what can I do to make this better right now? And I think to turn inwards and make you the first step is great. Yeah, I agree. And then you're going to be more equipped to do the actions, like you guys do all the philanthropic work. You know, like if you can take care of yourself, get clear, get aligned, then you can actually have more of an impact when you do the thing

to change the 3D or the experiential world. I love that you said that too because I started feeling so much more compelled to do philanthropic things once I had my shit together. Yeah. You help yourself first. You get to where you need to be and then you kind of have all these like gifts to bestow, I guess. You got to put your face mask on first before you help others. You can't pour from an empty cup.

Right. I love that. Okay. Okay. Well, one more thing. We want to know, do you have any, like, ritual hacks that didn't make the book? Yeah. We kind of know what's coming. No pun intended. But you tell us. Squared on out of you. Yeah. Masturbation is actually jerk magic. Jerking off. What is this magic between my legs? Yeah. Well, if you think about part of, you know, a good ritual is just, generating energy and we're trying to manifest, masturbation manifestation kind of situation. Oh my God, that's a book title right there. I think we have new merch for me with that. But basically, you've got your chakras down there, your root chakra and your sacral. So that's what you use to create what you want and create stability in your life. So when you're doing a ritual, if you can come to an orgasm and direct that energy towards what you're trying to create, it actually adds momentum and mojo to it.

Oh my God. The thing is, so you can't be thinking about like, oh, I'm fucking this specific person. It's really like you've got to keep in mind. It's like you're getting so aroused by the life you want to create. It has nothing to do with like a man or anything like that. That you're bringing that to the

table and everything comes from creation. Everything comes from sex. So you're actually going to be creating what you want through that. I love this because I already masturbate to my own success. Ashley's favorite dirty talk is somebody telling her all great shoes So this is it

So I feel like Ashley's a straight-up witch And you do all this stuff intuitively I have a witch We talked about it before Ashley is a witch I masturbate a lot Lately I've been masturbating a lot So I feel like I'm

What am I masturbating to? Lately What do you take you take some time I've been doing two days How are we even fitting all this in? I do it when I wake up first thing in the morning when I'm a little groggy and I do it when I get high at night because you can't recommend it.

I feel like this is the best thing you're just told Raina because she's thinking like, how can I fit all this in? I got to do my spells and I got to do my workouts. And then you're like, and mastery. She's like, oh, I can mastery while I do my spells. Okay. Multitasking. Yeah.

So that's the hack that we didn't put in the book. But a lot of practitioners use this trick. Okay. So the sequel is the manifestation masturbation. Yeah. Manifestation masturbation. Well, Kelly, unless you make a final thing. that we didn't get to, we can move on and have you pull some cards for some dating

situations. Okay. Oh my gosh. This is going to be high stakes. Kelly, you called this fuck him or love him or love him. Keep him. Yeah, it was like fuck him love him leave him. I like fuck him love him leave him. Okay. Fuck him love him leave him. Great. So fuck him and send him pack in or just fucking whatever. Get yours. Keep him. No, fuck him means just have sex with him. That's what we're saying. Oh sorry. So get that D and get kind of trade. get that D or whatever, get your butt eight, and then whatever. And then that be done with it or just whatever. Like, this isn't your long-term person.

Love him, keep him around. This is a good match. Leave him obvious. So we had some listener submissions and we got their approval because we didn't want Kelly to predict something all willy-nilly like she did with me the other night. I know. I was like, Kelly, I need your clarity on this guy. and now she's like, be careful about that.

Maybe you don't. I had asked her something about this guy. And then as I'm asking it, I'm like, I actually don't want to know, but she had already pulled a card. And it was not a good one. It wasn't the worst one. I was trying to mansplain to her why it wasn't so bad. Okay, I can start with the first email.

And these are, we also tried to just pull scenarios that everybody can relate to. But, okay, SOS confused with myself and my new relationship. I started dating my new boyfriend near the beginning of COVID. He's great, handsome, driven, funny, accepting of my OCD and gets along with my family well. Things have moved pretty fast, and it feels right. So she said things have been pretty fast, but it feels right. There's just one thing I'm confused about. Certain days, I find myself resenting him because I'm thinking about other women.

I have never been with another woman, but I worry that if he's the one, I may never get to experience that. I don't think that about other men. I don't want another man. I'm just so curious about being with a woman now that I found this guy. Three-way, no shot, too jealous. what do I do? Okay. So this to me is love him, leave him, or fuck a woman.

Or have a threesome in your... So I just want to give credit to her and like how she feels because like I have always like had lesbian tendencies and I've always like lesbian porn. And I think it is like a real, I guess, anxiety provoker. Like if I settle down with this guy, am I never going to get to satisfy these like sexual fantasies that I have? Okay, Kelly's pulled the cards.

I know, but I feel like this is so much more complex than our three options. I know, sorry. You still want to do a reading? No, I can do it. But as long as you, are you guys cool if I, like, deviate from the format and just tell her. Yes. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah, this is great. So I would say, I just want to validate the true. I feel very emotional for this woman, actually. I want to validate the true desire to have connection with a woman. And I know that she thinks that it might just be like a sexual connection, but it's also showing like a real deep emotional way that she can be fulfilled that maybe she can't with the guy that she's talking about. and this looks like she might actually choose to have a long-term committed relationship with a woman

should she try that route. And it shows that it's actually, we pulled the wish card, which is like actually your deepest wishes being fulfilled. So I don't know if that's what she wanted to hear, but I think you go for it. And I think this guy is great, but it's showing not the same depth that potentially she might find if she explores opportunities with women. And I know she said, I think she said that she doesn't want to have a relationship with a woman, but she might not.

No, she says she doesn't have a three sum with her boyfriend. Oh yeah. She didn't. She's not ruling it out. Yeah, the three sum is a no. And it's showing like a real emotion. There could be a lot of emotional fulfillment through relationships with women.

And then I pulled a card that indicates sort of like marriage. I think I, okay, I just got everything you do, I get full of your child. What I'm seeing also is somebody that just like doesn't want to invite another person into the bedroom willy-nilly to see what it's like to hook up with a girl. It seems like she really wants to explore being with women. And I think for me, sexuality is definitely about the person and not about their genitalia. And I could probably be in love with anybody. I mean, I choose

men usually, but who knows? But it does sound like she wants to date. Yeah. Women and see what that's like not just have like a one-off experience with her man. And 100% do not worry about like losing this guy that's a decent guy. Like I feel like she's like, okay, good guys are hard to find. But that what I'm hearing from her is like, but he's a good guy and you guys talk so much about a terrible men are. And I found a guy that really likes me. And it's like, it doesn't matter. She will not be fulfilled staying with this guy and not pursuing the woman. Leave him. I have another idea. I have a third option. A fourth option. And it's certainly easier said than done. But I mean, I think that you can say to your partner, like, I really like being with

you, but I am curious about exploring women. And I'd like to, like, I'd like to explore dating another woman. Like, would you be okay with me being on a date with another woman? I mean, there's all kinds of scenarios that make people happy and you never know. And like, I'm, I'm with you. Like, I think she probably feels exactly like Ashley said, like guys are so hard to come by that are wonderful people. I can't give this up. But like, I don't know, maybe he would be open to you exploring things. So you never know. You never know. Okay. Except we know that she's going to end up with a woman. Yeah. Except we actually do know. She actually Kelly knows. Okay. The next one. In a nutshell, a guy I had a fling with fall of last year has forcefully reemerged into my life. We casually dated for a few

months last year, but I ended it because he couldn't commit any time or energy to the relationship, and he was just generally a douche nozzle. He then immediately began dating the girl he always told me not to worry about. Highly suss. Fast forward to the summer, he tried reconnecting and began texting me. I'm a smart girl and I didn't buy it until one day he called. I answered and we began hanging out again. He had some sort of revelation over the summer about wanting to be a better person, that he knew he messed up and that he loved me the whole time. I am generally skeptical of the male race, but also something about this seems honest and for real.

What do I do? Oh, also, I just graduated law school. I'm unemployed, live with my parents. He's still in law school two hours away. Neither of us knows what state will get jobs in. Long story short, he has worked really hard for a month to prove himself to me, and I'm tempted to maybe date him again, but also what if I get a job in Siberia? Leave him.

I literally pulled the devil card. Oh! Oh, my God. Look at the devil's kind of fucks. The devil is kinky. The devil is definitely kinky. I mean, reading it, I felt that. I mean, this just seems like a selfish person.

It's like, I'm going to come in out of your life for as many times as you're willing to let me. I just don't see a lot of, like, women behaving like this. It's a very male thing. And also, it doesn't always mean that this is an actual devil of a person manipulating somebody. It just could be that this is what he feels in the moment and he's going so hard to try to get it. And he's not, I don't know. I can tell you what the devil means in this context. This is a joint.

Ashley likes to explain to the expert. If you could just let me do that, I'll tell you. I'll actually tell you. It's saying that their alchemy together as a partnership keeps them both chained to these patterns that are unhealthy and addictive. And that's the energy of the devil card. She shows up as the beautiful angelic temperance card, which shows that she actually has done a lot of maturing and healing.

She's actually a very balanced woman. He shows up as like really like, I wanted to say a dingleberry. She said douche nozzle. He's like a hanger on. Do you know what I mean? Like he's a hanger on. Yeah. Oh, you meant dingleberry.

Yeah. Like during the hand gestures. Like he, I mean, he's actually, and it shows like someone that actually doesn't have a lot of money that would probably, might be in debt, maybe not physically in good. health. Like, this is not the kind of guy. Okay, so I love trying to shut up. You're doing your spells. You're not going to want any dingleberries in 40 days.

So I totally agree. My energy from reading the email was that she's got her shit together. Yeah, she's doing great. And she wanted to stress it to us. She wanted to be like, girls, I get it. I'm smart. I broke up with him when he was noncommittal. I didn't buy it.

But he is saying the right things. But I. And we do want to buy it when we care about so many. If she wants to be in a relationship with him, she's going to have to renegotiate the quote-unquote contract. So there's an energetic way that they are in a relay with one another, like a relationship that will keep having the same outcome that she doesn't want. So in order to, she's a lawyer, write a new contract.

It'd have to be like these are the stipulations and they've got to hold them to it. But I would say that's only if she desperately. No, no. He's the devil. But we're saying, no. The devil. The devil. I love this next one so much. Next one.

This isn't about me. it's about my sister. She was finally in a good, healthy, seeming relationship after years of the shitty man. Sister and this guy have been messing around and sleeping together for about a year, didn't want to be official and actually date because both said they weren't really ready. Well, feelings became stronger, and now they both said they're all in, exclusive, just became Instagram official and whatnot. So what's the problem?

Y'all, their roommates. Y'all? Trish here. They live together, y'all. We always made it through the whole episode. They live together. They share. A spice. Are they shacking up? Are they shacking up? Are they sharing a room?

Then she gave a cultural reference. I don't understand, but like I get it. It's straight Nick and Jess of New Girl in the Flash. You guys watched that show. I guess I'm more curious of opinions on this because it is not something we see every day. At first I told her not to get involved, obviously. But now that she's happy and they're dating, I'm just going to be supportive, question mark, advice, thoughts, opinions, L.O.L. So is it a bad idea for her sister to be dating the roommate, even though they seem like they're pretty happy. Okay, I would say that living together is accelerating how fast the relationship will move. And so just full transparency to know what you're ready for. I need a clarifier because hold

I'm like keeping my fingers crossed in this one. But they stay together? Yeah, I want to work out. Yeah. Okay, so here's the deal. So the sister. So, okay, first of all, he looks like a really great partner. He shows up as a king. Like he shows up as someone's emotionally mature, feels passionate about her, et cetera. The sister will have a positive outcome too, but she has some work to do. She just has some inner transformational work to do or else she'll keep on, she might make small things into big things. Do you know what I mean? So I would just say to the sister, yes, just be prepared for this to go fast. He's an outstanding guy. And also sister, be prepared to do whatever inner work comes up with being in a relationship. Okay. Okay.

Well, there's just so much to think about with starting a relationship with somebody who's live with. I honestly can't wrap my head around. It's a crazy thing. So, like, I can't imagine the shit that would come up, especially if I was a little bit younger. Like, I would be needing to tell myself to chill all the time. Like, there's got to be. I would love this.

So much extra. You know where you are all the time. It's just going to go really fast. Like, it gets serious really fast. And so, and there's, the cards would say, There's no real pump in the brakes. So just be prepared for it. You're right, because there is no, like, going home and taking a day off.

Yeah. I live together. And I do think that, like, it stands to reason that, like, two people that would want to live together, like, might have been friends for a long time, might have a lot in common, might have a lot of friends in common. Like, it makes sense that you would date. It's just, you're right. There is no pumping the brakes and going back from that.

He looks good, though. He looks like a good partner. Okay. All right. Let's your sister. Was that, was that against what your intuition is saying? No, I felt good about it. Oh, good.

I like to validate your intuition. Yeah, thank you so much. You're welcome. All right, let's just do one last funny one. Let's see if you get any energy from this one, Kelly. She says, my man, that's not my man, still wears Hollister jeans. I feel like that's all you need to know. Please let me know your thoughts.

Love him, leave him, or fuck him. Kelly's like, please do not degrade me. Kelly's like, I'm not even going to pull a card for this, okay? She's pulling tarot cards for it. The first card is Abercrombie and Fitch. Oh, love him. Really? Yeah.

Love him in all his stonewashed jeans. You have to. Okay, this is like a real man. Like he shows up as like a real man. Kelly, I don't believe you anymore. He is a really good caretaker. Like, it is. He's putting no energy into his clothing.

But that's probably a good sign. Yeah. That's what I mean. that he just like doesn't care. That's good. This guy eats pussy. His energy is in your pussy and also your behole. And it's showing that for her, I just love this,

that he creates like a real tranquil place for her. Like mentally, she's very calm. And so he would be, he shows up as a type of guy that's like going to call when he says. Like all the things that make you go insane. Like he's not going to do those things to her. She's going to feel calm and centered. He is, it's showing like a real good match. for love, like a mature love.

I love him. Well, she said it's my man, it's not my man. That usually means maybe she's not trying to date him because he wears Hollister jeans. What does she say? I think she needs to give this guy a second look. Okay. I love the vibes you're paying up from this and I feel them.

It's like, it's a guy that's just like not spending that much time on his appearance, which is good. It's good. He's like just energy for other stuff. You just being a good guy. And you can like buy him new jeans. You know what I mean? Like, and this type of guy would be open to it because he doesn't,

care. He just wants you to be happy. That's like my husband. He just wants me to be happy and I buy his clothes. Yeah. You can change a man's. That makes me happy. You can change a man's fashion clothes all day. It's so easy. Yeah. So you literally just have to show them what they look like in better clothes and they're like, damn, I look good. The closer to Christmas, the better guys. Yeah, but then she's going to upgrade him and he's, you know, he might. Or date somebody else. Not this guy. He's super loyal. No, I love this guy. You want to date him? I bet he's a cancer. Relax.

What if Brandon's listening? Brandon's going out to Hollister. He's like, I know Kelly's love language, finally. Okay. Well, that was so fun. I know. I wish we had 20 more next time. Kelly, thank you so much.

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But thank you. I love you guys. It's really a pleasure. And I just really admire what you guys have built and the awesome community you have. So thanks for including me. Well, we can have done it literally without you. Literally without.

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is on the up and up. Yep. Okay. Well, thank you, Kelly. You guys go grab that book, start your spells, all the things. You can find everything you need to know about us at Girls Gotta Eat Podcast.com. Get those tickets for Nashville. They're going to go quick. We are Girls Gotta Eat Pack us on Instagram. Ash Hess, Raina.org on Instagram, Girls underscore Gotta Eat on Twitter and YouTube.com slash Girls Gottoeat. And that's all. You killed it. Have a good week, guys. Bye.