Girls Gotta Eat - The Audacity of Dudes and the Cringe of And Just Like That

Episode Date: February 7, 2022

IT'S HERE -- our long-awaited recap of the best/worst show ever created, And Just Like That. We're discussing the entire season, deep diving on the finale, and sharing our overall feelings about the ridiculous reboot of our beloved Sex and the City. We also have an exclusive interview with a surprise guest that's been on both GGE and AJLT. And before we get into the recap, we're chatting about a "benching" incident that has us once again saying "the audacity of men." Hope you enjoy! Follow us on Instagram @GirlsGottaEatPodcast, Ashley @AshHess, and Rayna @Rayna.Greenberg. Visit our website for tour dates, tickets, and more. Thank you to our partners this week: The Pill Club: Become a patient at thepillclub.com/gge and have a $10 donation given to bedsider.org. Olipop: Get 20% off your order + free shipping at drinkolipop.com/gge or code GGE at checkout. Buffy: For $20 off your order, visit buffy.co and enter promo code GGE. HelloFresh: Go to hellofresh.com/gge16 and use code GGE16 for up to 16 free meals + 3 free gifts. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Carrie's like, I bought both of you tickets to come with me to Paris. And Charlotte's like, I'm in. And Miranda's like, I can't go. And Charlotte's like, I guess it's you and me. And Carrie's like, I'm all set. Back to another episode of Girls Gotta Eat. Welcome back. Raina just burped.

I hate burps so much. They make me sick. I hate them more than farts. I hate them more than diarrhea. I hate burp so much. If someone like burps in a car and the windows are up, I will throw up. You said that to me. Like it was such a high take.

I hate burps. Like you're the only like people. I don't think a lot of people hate them that much. They're like, oh, they're funny. I think they're disgusting. A belch from the inside of your body, the smell from the cavity of your body. I hate them so much. Like, I'm not, you know, we're not like a burb fart family.

Like, yeah, I fart all the time in the privacy of my own home. But like, guys that don't like burb. Why did you tell you that you backed up into a corner and farted? Corner caught the fart. Like, it wouldn't. Was this in a show? It was in a live show. You farted in the green.

I said I'm farting. You're like, yeah, what do you think I was doing in the corner? What do you think I was doing in the corner? Oh my God. All right. Guys, we have a hot one today. His old is on Raina's lap. It's just crazy.

He just, like, hit my arm and got up under it. He just, he's, he knew you were kind of like in a bad mood today. So he's just, he's a therapy dog. I am having a bad day. You can tell. Okay. Listen. We're going to Miami tomorrow.

Thank God. Allegedly. Delta this morning tried to play around. Send me a text message to talk about inclement weather. It's going to be 50 degrees tonight. If this rain freezes, it's a personal attack on us. I'm going to be so upset if we can't get the fuck out of this place. No, it's just, it's so gross. It's, I haven't seen the sun in weeks. It's bad. My skin hasn't seen it in weeks. Instagram took down your photo. That was so upsetting. It's so upsetting when that happens. So I am kind, I have underwear on and I'm my topless, but there's emojis over my, my brass. I thought that was fine. I thought it was fine. And also.

I've seen people in bikinis that cover less than those little emojis covered. I thought you could do whatever if you covered your nipples, which also is so fucking stupid. But like, I don't understand that. I really don't understand it. You were wearing underwear, like you said, there was no, like vagina. It's fucking crazy. Also, I'd tell you something funny about that that just happened right this second. Like it actually, can you dispute it?

Whatever. It's such a bummer when that happens. Like, it's such a bummer when you get hundreds of comments and then people are in there. take it down. So it's funny, this just happened. So I screenshot it went. So Des Bishop, who is our friend, Hannah Berners, I saw what he said. Fiancee commented on it, and I laughed so hard that he just like was out

here, like, commented. I think that's a sign of a good relationship. A hundred percent. Can be out here just like trolling your good friends. He wasn't trying to hide it. He was a good friend of ours. So he just DM'd me and said, I have all these summerouts haters giving me shit for commenting on your photo. No! Right this second.

It was up for, what, 20 minutes. 20 minutes and it's been down for hours. That is so crazy. I never ever want to be a famous person. Literally, your man comments on a mutual friends and people are like, there's trouble in paradise. Hannah and Des, Des is fucking Raina Greenberg.

Like, what? It's so true. I will say it all day long. That is a good friend of mine and her fiance says something funny. Our business, well, our other business partner. He comments stuff like that. Bobby Westside. And Bobby Westside.

And we are close friends with. their girlfriends and wives and fiancée's and wives. I can't post something without Bobby Flames, panting face. Like, he just goes so hard. So it's just funny. I'm glad you brought it up because it happened like right the second. Other people are like in his DMs like, how could you do this? Oh my God. Trust it between me, Des and Hannah. We'll take care of this. We're fine. It's just, it's so nuts that people even think about that one. It's so public. So public, right? He's not signing to my DM. If Des DM'd do that, we got a problem. You know what I'm saying? Which is.

He never would. He's like the best guy. Oh my gosh, love him so much. Love him so much. Okay, one little baby housekeeping thing to get out of the way. And then we're getting this fucking episode. We will see you guys in D.C. this weekend. We are so excited for two shows on the 12th.

We come home for a couple days. And then we're going to San Francisco, L.A., San Diego. Cannot wait. So if you guys are coming to any of those shows, you're going to email Stories at GirlsGadipockets.com and let us know about friends you're coming with. You bring your man, some crazy story about them. Yes.

Maybe your friends are going without you. and you want to talk shit on them at the show, send us a message. If you have single guys in your party, and then also if you guys have sexes in your phone, get them ready, don't email them. So send us everything. Nailed it.

Yeah, send us everything. We'll see you guys soon. We have some tickets left for some of those shows. Check it all out on our website. Girlscuttypodcast.com. Do you see the DC, they name their football team? No, what are they calling it? The commanders.

Love it. Why didn't we do this originally? Why didn't we do this before? Best name. That is so sexy. Isn't it? I'm like, I'm going to fuck, that whole team. That's the best name. And it makes so much sense. The commanders. Yes.

I love it. Well, commanders in chief. That's what I'm saying. That is a bomb name. Courtney, Courtney McGuinness. You know, Courtney and Casey, they were on the show. Their last guest we ever had in the old house studio, she's a huge Washington team fan. And she's my go-to for all the news on the team. Oh, really? So she posted this like hype video. It looked nice. She just burp again. Oh my God. Oh my God. And when people blow it out, people like burp and below it, I want to die. At least I'm not farting into corners and then you don't magically absorb into the corner.

Everybody does that. Farts in a corner. It's just, you've got to cropped up to the corner. You don't think that it bounces off of both sides of the wall and goes right back into the room. It doesn't matter. No one's in the corner. Like, do you think I'm not going to fart? You think I'm going to go on stage with a fart in my stomach?

This episode. So here's how today is going to go. We're going to, it's literally the Thursday of the finale of and just like that today. I woke up and watched it at 9 a.m. Do you watch it this morning? First thing in the morning. I watched Tinder Swindler last night, which we'll get into next. We've tons of stuff talking about next week.

Yes, yes. But this week, just sex in the city. So I loved watching TV in the morning. It's like so nice to have a cup of coffee and watch like a 9 a.m. a show. Actually is me telling me these things like, working out in the morning. It's crazy. I'm like, yes, my life is my life every single week. Today I got up at 8.30

and I had soup before noon. I was like, I am Raina Greenberg. I feel it. I'm going to get a breast reduction. I'm telling you this thing. So my my tattoos looked really big. Two days a month, they look really big or on my period. At least half a cup size bigger and I set a picture to Raino's like, Schenker

reduction. Just for the attention. I'm getting so much gas out of this. Okay, so we're going to do that. We're going to do and just like that, we're going to wreck a couple other shows, but we're not going to totally dive into them because we're just doing one today. That's the show which isn't going to turn into TV show recap.

So before that, though, right now, I'm going to share a story. I don't tell you a little anecdote before your story. You know, every like few months, well, first of all, I got out of these streets completely. I was in a relationship for a while. But, you know, before that, every few months, I decided to get back in these streets.

So I fired a hinge and I realized I deleted my hinge. and I don't have one anymore. And so I have sort of like restart from scratch now. Oh. So I'm like repicking pictures. I'll let you guys know how to go. Oh my good. New titty picks? New titty picks.

I'm just very excited to start again. So I decided to get in these streets because we have a really good friend who's recently single. She's going to come on the show and talk about her breakup in a couple weeks. Oh my gosh. More Rana's friend. She is more my friend. But you're becoming better friends with her now that she's single.

To our role. Actually, I connect with people more. Actually, no interest. No, we were friends. No, we were friends. But we went over there. the day, like the right after Dewey passed. I've always, like, really loved her.

I just, I feel like we're connecting on a new level. A single level. A single girl level. But we've a great breakup episode coming with her in a couple weeks. But she's been on Hinge and having, like, great experiences. And I've been really inspired by her whole attitude towards dating in general. She's just been really, like, light and fun about it. Like, it's not that deep.

This is fun. So, oh, my God, Azul's just next level. This is crazy. He's like, girl, you need to get some dick, but I'll be here in the meantime. So anyways, I'm just letting you know. I'm restarting Hinge. I didn't realize I completely deleted it. I'm going to maybe get back in these streets.

I'm not. Yeah, you're going to hate it. I mean, you know, whatever. It's just, it's fucking sucks. All of it sucks. Okay. We've been on like a New York has been especially bad lately, just stuff that's happening, not even just necessarily to us. I'll share a story, but just stuff we hear about. Like, we don't need to get into it. You met this guy and you were like, this guy's kind of an asshole. Like, he, with, to his girlfriend. Like, it just seems like, it's so bad. Like, I look around the streets and like the streets are covered in garbage more than

ever. And I'm like, it's such a metaphor for the dating scene. I just, I feel like I thought it was better. I thought it was getting better and it hasn't. So I wanted to just give an update on short zipper king's friend who. You guys are obsessed for short zipper king. And then it's so funny because this thing went viral on like a few. It was barcel, but it was on a ton of accounts of like that short king gathering where a lot of you guys saw this sent it to us. Guys could only go to this party that were 5-8 or under and all their dates had to be 5-10 or above.

And it was like a short king party. And people were saying funny stuff. you guys started Short Kings. I'm like, we absolutely did not. We started Short Zipper King. But we've been hearing Short King's, especially like in Boston started it. It's been around. Short King Kingdom is Boston.

Short King, yes. Which is why that tracks with Barstall. Okay, sorry. Right. No. Is that where they had the party? Well, that's where Barstle is from, like originally. So like Short King Kingdom.

I know. Barstall's everywhere. But like, I wonder if they had that party in Boston. Now I want to know. I bet it was. All right. We'll look it up. We'll look it up.

So if you guys remember, I, had met Shorter King's friend. Now this was weeks ago at this point. It's crazy that I have an update for you guys. So we met, we chatted, we texted and we talked about getting together when we got back into the city because I like, you know, he wouldn't talk. We met in Austin. He lives here. He lives like very close to me. And the last thing that happened was I was basically on a plane coming back here. I think on the 19th. Was that your surgery? 18th was my surgery. So anyway, he was like, let's get dinner or drinks next week. I wrote back. Oh, no, on Tuesday, January 18th.

So January 18th, I said, like, no worries. I'm on the plane back right now and drinks sound great. Right? Okay. Yeah. So Tuesday, January 18th, 5 p.m. Nothing for two weeks just left me on red, which I'm like, listen, this is just customary to date here, I feel like this guy, and also on top of it,

this guy's young, he's tall, he's hot, he's a great job, probably makes a lot of money. He's probably going to be an asshole. It's whatever. I was like, I don't care. This rolls off my back. I would have gone out with him. I don't know him like that. He could be a shitty person.

I just don't know. But yeah, I'll admit it. I would have gone out with him, right? Like, I wasn't like heartbroken, but I mean, it doesn't feel good. But I would like, a few days past, I was like, I forget who that guy is. I met him for, what, 30 minutes, right? I don't know him. So this past Monday night.

What was Monday? The 31st. February 1st. January 31st. Yeah, January 31st. Monday was the 31st. So we're like basically two weeks out. Yeah, you would know because you're titties.

And I know because I know what days are episodes dropped. So the text was, I got left on red since the day you got new titty's. Okay. And Monday night, 1146 p.m. We're at a midnight text. First text, hey. I see it come in. I'm like, oh, this is going to be good.

Just a hey. And then follows up. He's typing. I'm like, what is this going to say? I'm on the couch just watching this happen in real time. And he goes, I have to go to Philly this weekend. What? It's Monday.

It's Monday. Sir, it's Monday. I have to go to Philly this weekend, but if you're around next week, do you want to get drinks like Thursday or something? 10 days from now. 10 days from this midnight tax. After two weeks of being, you know, like, listen, here's what happened here. This is the most quintessential keeping someone on the bench of all time.

Like, you are sitting around Monday night, I guess, at midnight, thinking about the girls on your bench, thinking about the girls. thinking about the girls you've met in the past couple weeks, making sure you can still keep them on the bench. Like, there's no other answer. I know that things come up. I know that people go through stuff when they do. And when they, you know, leave you on red for two weeks,

they touch base and say what happened. They say, so sorry, it's been crazy. The fact that you just start with a hay shows me that that's such normal behavior to you. And again, like, I don't know this person. I laughed about it. I'm not personally insulted. I don't know this person on a deep level. He doesn't know me.

But I don't care about it. someone two weeks after meeting them casually. Like the momentum is gone. I don't give a shit. You're not in my mind. I'm not interested anymore. I've lost interest completely. It is crazy that you still thought about me.

Like that's such a sign of like a fuck boy to me. Like he's sitting there thinking like, oh shit, I haven't touched base to that girl. Let me make sure maybe I can go out with her in 10 days. But that's what's really crazy to me is like, first of all, you're not going to go out in 10 days. You're going to find a weird. Yes. A hundred percent.

Yeah. Like, I mean, you know that like I fall into the, I fall into the realm of being a male apologies sometimes where I'm always just like, he doesn't know anything, he didn't need to check in with you, you guys weren't dating, you met him at the pool, whatever. But, but I do think when you hear from somebody after two weeks, one sentence, hey, I hope you've been doing well. I've been really busy, but we'd love to take you off for a drink tomorrow night if you're still down. Tomorrow night. What do you ask me out for in 10 days? We're not doing this? I mean, there's two parts of this. Like, the asking out in 10 days just totally insane. It's also so wild to be Monday night and to be

talking about the following end of the next week. Like, my calendar's book this weekend, I didn't ask. I don't care about you. I don't care about your plans. The two weeks to me, you know, you said something. We were talking about just like men and men in the city, boys in the city feel like just a totally different level. Like we have not run into this in any other city. You use the word intentional. You're like every other guy I've ever met that I've dated that I've met in another city is more intentional than this. Like you say to somebody, let's get drinks next week and they say drinks sound good. You don't hit them up two weeks later. It's so crazy. The behavior feels really not like normal, huge. human behavior. Well, it feels disposable. And also, I don't really appreciate a midnight text either. Oh, it's gross. It would be different for me if it was like somebody that travels a lot, like lots of people to live here working consulting and they travel constantly. They're like,

I have to plan two weeks out. You and I are always on the road. Like, it wouldn't be so crazy for you and I to make plans of friends 10 days from now. But like, I would do it at noon, not at midnight. It's, it's so weird. It's leave me on red for two weeks after I accepted your invite. After I said like, drinks sound great, you know? And then, I mean, I know I'm like getting all worked up here. I'm just, it's such a, it's so indicative of the bigger picture of dating in New York. You're just like, oh my God. Like, there's no urgency. The feeling that I get, I said this to you, like, I'll get to it when I get to it. They, you don't care. Like, I would never settle for it. I just didn't respond at all. He doesn't, like, we went back and forth. I was like, maybe should I say

something like kind of funny, snarky, basically like, no, thank you. I'm not interested anymore. And so I could like be funny with you guys on the show because I don't care. But then I'm like, ultimately, like, that doesn't deserve a response for me. I literally forgot you existed. Mm-hmm. Like, that is so crazy to me. Like, you meet somebody for a short period of time. Like, to me, you only have a short period of time thereafter to even make a connection with them. Because I forget that you have existed. So it's so weird to me, these guys, they just, like, keep women that they met just in the bank on the bench and then, like, hit him up at midnight asking to go out the following week. because what, you have dates every other week, every other night until then.

It's so bizarre. And it's just, again, I'm not personally insulted, but it, like, is insulting that you met me and you thought that I would ever be okay with this. The thing that I like about our show, and that I like about getting older in general, we've been doing this show for four years now. I mean, you just, you do live and learn,

you get more self-worth as you get older. Like, it took me back, this guy's a little younger. It took me back to, like, 23-year-old me. Exactly. Or 25-year-old me. If it would, like, a guy would make these tentative plans with me and, like, you know, let's see where we're both at.

later and I would sit at home fully dressed on the couch. I'd give myself a time on the clock and be like, he doesn't tax me by 9.30, I'm gonna, I'm out. He doesn't text me by 10. I'm out. It would be 10, 15. I'd still be sitting there. I'd be like, maybe he'll let me know. And it's just like, I have been treated so disposable and non-intentionally. And like, I just feel like as I get older and I do the show more and there's just more information about this out here. I just don't, I'm not such a bad bitch. I just don't, I have no time for it. I'm not interested and I don't care. If you don't want to act right, I just don't care. And like, one of the things I loved so much about the last person I dated was like,

he called when he said he would. When I was with him, like, we had a lot of this relationship. We made a plan for the next time we were going to see each other while we were doing, you know, while we're seeing that time. Like, everything felt very intentional. And like, if you're not going to be like that with me,

that's fine. You're just not that into me, but I just don't need you in my airspace. I'm so with you. And listen, if this happens to somebody listening right now and you want to go out, go out. Like, this is not abusive. I just know what it is.

It's keeping someone on the bench. like for this guy, the fact that you just didn't respond to me for two weeks makes me know wholeheartedly that you would not be reliable enough for a date 10 days out. You know what I mean? Yeah. You're not just someone I even would trust to show up. So I, and again, like this is the luxury of being women of our age with all this life experience. I'm 25 years old. I meet that guy. I'm like, oh my God. This guy is hot. He is a great job. Oh my God. I'm freaking out. You know what I mean. I'm like, this could be my guy. Like, I never, clearly, I never thought that. But like, I wouldn't be able to act like I am now. And you know what I mean? So I have a sympathy to

people that would be like sitting here thinking like, I'd go out, I'd go out with him. I would too. If I was a lot younger, but like I don't have time for the bullshit. And like, maybe I think too too highly myself. But if you're not like excited about me and you, I can feel the energy of like just keeping me in the bank with everybody else, I don't want it. I don't want it. I don't want a part of it. I just like have too much love for myself, I guess. Yeah. I don't think it's like, I'm glad that you sort of like, it's not abusive, like the way you say, like, it's not insidious. I don't think he thought anything of it. I thought it was just like, I met this girl.

Oh, yeah, she seemed fucking cool. She exists. Let me see her. Yeah, she exists. She seemed fucking fun and cool and pretty. Let me just see if she's like around when I get back in town. It's just, it's weird to me. If that's exciting to you and you, that guy looks like a fucking model, he's gorgeous.

If you were like, yeah, I'm going to go over a drink with him, whenever. Absolutely. Absolutely. You could. Great. But like, I don't know. I just don't need to be bothered by people like this. it's like I was an afterthought to you

and you're going to be an afterthought to me. And afterthought, exactly. And again, like, I'm just, I think I'm great. And, like, you met me in person. This isn't, like, somebody, like, a stranger that someone's setting up with, for example. This is like, we met. You know what I do for a living.

We laughed. We had fun. We laid on these beds and chit-chat it. Like, no, I don't want it. I agree. The moment's past. I can't be bothered with it. I just, I can't be bothered with anybody

that doesn't, like, show up and treat me well. Yeah. It's not attractive to me. So he's just getting left on red until the end of time. Because then I think I'd just hit him with it. No, thank you. I just think no thank you was so funny. Someone asked you out, no thank you.

No thank you is so fine. I mean, I always say like, you know, no response is a response. Oh, for sure. And that is. No, thank you is. I would do it if he reached back out. Yeah. It's really funny.

No, thank you. That just leaves someone being like, what? Why? Okay. We're going to do and just like that. But we both have watched 20-somethings Austin a day apart. I can't. Rana, you were just a day behind me.

We couldn't talk about it. I feel like we do this all the time where you will like live tweet me a show that I've watched two days before. We do this all the time. So I'm usually not ahead of you. So I watched it and then recommended it hardcore arena. We love it. We're going to talk about it in full next week. I don't know. This show is popular. It's a top show on Netflix. It has been for quite some time. But I don't know how many of you guys have seen it. I did a poll on my Instagram. It looks like it was kind of half and half. So we recommend you guys watch it. I can't imagine anyone that wouldn't love it. It's just it's a feel good show. I love it. And if you guys want to watch it,

we'll recap it next week. Yeah. It's incredibly diverse without trying too hard. which is the exact opposite of it just like that. There's so much good television on, so we'll have a lot to talk about next week because it's cold and I don't leave the house unless we go to Miami. We do an update about Dallas Business Card guy. He did say that he wants to come up here and hang out

because he doesn't let the fans down and he wants there to be an update for everybody. He's like a star fucker? I don't think he's a star fucker. I think he's around a lot of stars a lot. He said the word fans. No, he said the audience. And I told him to listen to the episode.

So like I told him, I pointed him towards it. Okay. I do not want to be repetitive to all the stuff. I said a few weeks ago for sure. So I thought about that. And then I just thought in general, like, what is my overall feeling about the show? Because I was trying to understand personally why I feel so angry about this show. Because it meant so much to me, you know?

I mean, I don't have to hammer that anymore. I mean, every woman that is my age, your age, like, feels like they moved to New York and thought they would have that experience. Yeah. And I read this article and it kind of summed it up a little bit more for me. I wish I could remember who the writer was. But she said that Sex and the City had done what no other show had done before. And just like that did like literally the exact opposite. That it was just a lot of cliches.

It was trying to be a lot of things that a lot of shows have done now. I don't believe the dialogue. I don't believe the character development. I think it's sloppy and pandering and insults my sense of like intelligence. I don't know. The whole show bothered me start to finish. Well, and I've seen people have this hot take where they're like, oh, you think their writing's bad? What you think they're writing on Sex and City was so good?

It's like, yeah. Actually, I'm not saying that it was like so much more brilliant. I don't know. Like, I'm not saying that it was like the best writing in the world, but the show was so much better. And like, for me, so I started watching Sex and the City when I was like 18. And then the characters were so aspirational to me. And then I became those characters at the same age, living in New York City, dating as a single woman. And it felt real.

So not only were the aspirational, but then when I got to be their age living in the same fucking city, even though it was so many years later, it still felt real. I felt like it got realer to me the more I lived here and dated. I'm like, yeah, you just date the same dudes as like the show prepared me for life here. I do feel like it was realistic at the same time aspirational. I don't know that and just like that, hey, it's not aspirational. If I'm looking at it as a woman in my 30s looking at women in their 50s, I don't want to be like them, which is the exact opposite of how it was watching it at like,

as 18 as 30s. And then they, I don't think that most 55 year old New York women would even think it's realistic to them. I don't think so either. So I think it's totally different. I agree. And I realized that and just like that was trying to write some of the wrongs of sex in the city that it wasn't incredibly like diverse.

It wasn't inclusive of as many gay characters, transgender characters. Minorities just in general, them having friends that weren't white. I get it. But it's just, I feel like they overcorrected. Yeah. And just like that. And again, I do not believe the dialogue at all. I think that, like, they stay true to some of the characters,

but I feel that nobody is as nasty to each other as Carrie is to Charlotte. We'll get into it. I just was disappointed in it. I'm insulted for people that are 55. I'm insulted for Steve. I just, I don't believe these characters at all. Yeah. And again, like, we, it's, of course we love that the show is more inclusive and they're trying

to, like, write those wrongs and bring in all these different kind of characters. It just felt like they went, like, so hard. It felt so forced. It didn't feel organic. Everybody got a friend who was a woman of color. You know, it just was like, again, I don't know. I can only, I can't speak on it from anything that's a white, straight woman. So, you know, I'm sure a lot of more people felt seen.

We love that. I think it goes without saying. So it's not that. It was so, yeah, it was like so try hard with the wokeness and things like that. The other major, major issue I had with this, and I think would have made the characters more believable is that every storyline we talked about this is 10 minutes long. And there isn't a lot of character development. Every single person, so when Miranda gets into the cab, she leaves Steve, she has a five-minute discussion about leaving him, she gets in a car, she's going to go to Cleveland,

and then we're back in New York in the next episode. And every person was like, did I miss an episode? I think we missed the, like, what happened to Cleveland? We missed the whole kind of amazing character development of what does it look like to leave your husband of 20-something years that you're bored by? What does it look like to decide that you are attracted to somebody of a, of the same sex, or not the sex you've always been attracted to traditionally. What does any of this look like? And it was just like, poof, it's over and everything's fine.

I just feel like there was no character development. I feel like we don't get to see Carrie really like more and big. I know you feel a little bit differently that we do see her morning a little more. I feel like I didn't believe it. In the last episode, she makes some joke about her husband dying and laughs about it. And I don't know. It felt misplaced.

I just felt like we didn't really get a lot of character development from any of them. There was just these things that happened. And then it was just over. Yeah, I mean, I was, I agree and disagree. I mean, I feel like, you know, sex in the city was like short 30 minute episodes, different storylines every time. But I still feel like there was way better arcs. I still felt like, let's just talk about this.

Carrie to essentially end up with her producer to the point where they were furiously making out midday in the workplace. They had, they had what, had one interaction before the finale. One, one time because Jenny Jones was like, I think, they're going to end up together. I mean, a lot of people of predict this on this show. Yes. Like, they had one like flirty look, then nothing until they met each other at Bobby Lee's. Bobby Lee, what's his name? We know Bobby Lee's wedding.

Surprise wedding. Like, it wasn't realistic. Like, I almost felt this is a spoiler alert for the finale of Younger, if you want to skip ahead a few seconds. And Younger, when she ended up with Josh, we hadn't seen her flirt with Josh all season. And of course, I wondered to end up with Josh. But like, give us more. Like, get us wet for this relationship. I didn't even think about it. All of a sudden, they gave them one moment. And then they were like literally that hot for each other that they're doing the most unrealistic thing, which is make out an elevator.

Like for the way they made out, I was like, I started to tear up out of like just disbelief and anger, you know. I told you earlier, there is not a workplace where I haven't fucked a boss, fucked my coworker. I told you earlier, I jerked off one of the waiters in the co-check room at a restaurant job that I worked at. I will do anything anywhere. I'm not making out with somebody I have never made out with who is my coworker

in an elevator at noon. I mean, again, it's like, it was, it's a TV show. It was like a movie kiss. It was just, you know, no one kisses like that. No one just throws themselves into each other. Like, you know, that's sober in the middle of the day. Like, where was the tension? Where was any sexual tension or flirtation literally ever?

Actually, imagine a person that you just work with day to day in a professional setting that you have never hooked up with and barely anything has ever happened. And then in the middle of the day, they make a passage to you in the elevator at your job. The way that they had them kissed was like they came in after getting, like they were drunk like when she went out with Peter. Justice for Peter. I love Peter. Peter was hot.

Peter was very hot. Also, the other storyline that it makes no sense is that Miranda had a drinking problem. She's carrying nips around in her backpack. She's going to bars before class at nine in the morning and then she just buys a book and she's fine.

Like, that's it? I think that now she's drinking non-alcoholic champagne in the park. I'm so glad you brought up because I have such a list of notes and that wasn't on it. And I'm so glad you brought up because that's a big deal. to think you have a drinking problem. And like, it's affecting your life.

And then it's just over. They never brought it up again. Never bring it up again. It is unreal. Unreal. I, my most hated short storyline that was so crazy and necessary was carrying that, buying that apartment.

Did you look for what that apartment was? It was like a $20 million. Yeah, 100%. Like, I think, I don't think that that was out of unrealistic. Like, she had this rich husband that died. But like, oh, no, I agree. Just had her move in one episode. No issues with the closing.

No issues with the selling. Again, I know it's a fictional show. It's a 30, 40 minute show. But like, what was the point of that? Just to put her back in her old place? She was already in her old place. Like, why did we need her to go to that luxury apartment that we all want to live in and get upset that it beeped and go back to her shitty apartment?

What 55-year-old multi-millionaire is going back to their shitty garbage apartment and not staying in their 20 million? And she just left. There was no discussion about you. will lose the commission, the closing cost, the insurance costs. Anything that has ever bought anything is like, do you know how much money you just left on the table? And I understand she inherited all this money and my money doesn't matter to her maybe, but that is crazy. We don't just like buy a penthouse and just leave.

It's so crazy. The best thing about Carrie the whole season was Seema. And that's, I will stand by it. That was my favorite character. I need the Seema spin-off. I'm so glad she was fucking that dude at the end. She's the Samantha. Yeah. Also, wasn't that Tony from Prada? I think the actor was the guy, Tony, is that his name? Maybe don't, don't damn me. The guy that used to work at Prada that they tried to send him up with Charlotte, he went to Smith's naked play. Oh.

That was the thing as the same actor. Maybe. Oh, wow, good catch. Oh, it was like on Twitter and stuff. I don't, I knew he looked familiar from like another TV show, but I think he was the guy from Prada. And what I just think is overall, a lot of this is just lazy. I just, I don't need every single, like,

I was telling you that I thought that she didn't mourn big enough and you were like, well, you know, maybe doesn't need to be the whole season that she's mourning. And the point is to move on and date. Like, I don't need every single arc to be. Some things can be episodic. It's fine. Alcoholism is not episodic.

It's not just like a 30 minutes and we fixed it. I know. That was kind of crazy. Yeah, I mean, I think she used Biggs death whenever she could turn the attention back on her. That's for sure. That's true. Especially, like, they were like, what's the worst breakup you've ever had on the finale? I was like, the Post-it.

I was like, she's going to say the Poetzeeat. Throwback to Sex in the City. And she was like, my husband died. Bitch, it's not a breakup. It's not even funny. It's not even a good joke. They were like, ha, ha, ha, that's so funny. Carrie wins.

I'm like, that's not it. That's not a breakup. It's not funny. We had this moment to bring up burgers post it. We didn't. Like, what are we doing here? So true. Did you not feel it?

I was like, post it. I was just cringing because I just, I didn't think like, it's so funny. She finally gets to, I think the point was like she can finally joke about this stuff. Yeah, it's like, I feel like she always, like the whole thing. of that one episode when they were talking about, like, I think Miranda's, like, relationship or, yeah, and Charlotte was like, this is a big thing. This is a big deal or something.

And Carrie was like, this is not a thing. Big dying is a thing. Like, she couldn't, like, it just, she always used it to turn the attention back on herself. I mean, Carrie's going to carry. She never changed. You know, she just, like, even the thing with Steve was so crazy. Like, you know, Steve is sitting here asking her,

can you tell me anything what's going on? And she was like, no. And then her ring. Steve had to like all of a sudden the whole scene turned back to her and Steve having to find her ring. Let's not forget how much she like badgered Steve for advice on Aden back in the day. You know what I mean? I feel like I didn't even realize how much of a unlikable character she was until I got a little bit older.

I feel like they made her hateable in this next round. Like stuff that just wasn't even normal human behavior. I mean, I will get into what an unbelievable cunt machine she is just nonstop to Charlotte. But even when she sits down in the last episode with Biggs Brother and he says, I mean, She's like, well, if you knew me about her, you know that she's reported. What do you mean his brother doesn't know you? His brother, who clearly lives in New York, doesn't know anything about the person that his brother married and has lived with for 15 years.

Yeah, like back of the day, back in the day, back in sex in the city, of course, Carrie didn't really know his family because he wanted to keep her away from his family. Like, she'd go spy on him at church. But like, yeah, they've been married for 15 years. Can we talk about this ashes situation? I will not be able to let it go. First of all, I'm sitting here like, oh, I thought Big was cremated. Why are we talking about burying him?

Do you bury ashes in a plot? Oh. So he's like, where his remains? And when Carrie said on the shelf, I was like, oh, so they cremated him. But you know that I'm like fully so confused because there was a casket at the funeral that Samantha sent flowers to? Well, you can do a casket and still burn the body, cremate the body. You can't ask you.

You can do whatever you want. Great. Like, are we burying ashes now? Like, that was so weird. Like, the brother wanted the ashes to be buried. We aren't burying ashes. Well, don't you do it in a month. So Jews don't do that.

Jews don't. And everybody can do what they want. I don't know anything about it. You know, people can do whatever they want. I personally feel so strongly about, like, keeping the ashes of Dewey, for example. We spread some at the beach, but like, I feel like I want part of him with me. And also, from having some animal that died, like, I know how much ashes. Dewey was, so I can't imagine how many ashes big was.

So those weren't all the ashes in the little Ival Tower purse, but the way that they dumped out, the way that was the, and she just dumped his ashes. It was so epic. It was so anticlimactic. It was like, dump him in the water. It was like, this was the wrong move, Carrie. You should have kept him in the closet. Like, what are we doing here?

Also, Paris? I don't know. Why was that like their thing? Well, he went and Godder in Paris. Oh. After he fucked her for like 20 years. Yeah. I mean, Paris is like super, like, significant to them.

You're so right. It's not all of his ashes. And I thought, like, I don't know. Listen, you do you, everybody. I just, I didn't know people were out here burying urns. Like, you're cremated or you're buried, right? That's like one or the other. So I was like, what is going on here?

Isn't the point of cremating somebody so that, like, people that love you can have you in their own? Yeah, or spread. Like, for, we do, we've done that as a family. Like, my always, like, on the farm, like my grandparents and stuff. like that. And then of course, we took Dewey's and put him in the ocean, but I kept most of them. And they're in this little box that has a picture of him. Like, I feel like he's there with me. It just, I also just feel like, it's his family. It's, it's his whole family. And Carrie's like,

I'll decide. You know what I mean? Like, here's his brother being like, we'd love for you to be a part of the family plot. And she's like, I'm going to go throw him off a bridge in Paris. Nothing. The show makes sense. Nothing. We just did a whole episode about how she needed a hip replacement. She's so old. She's a hip replacement. Her storylines were just the worst. And then we think she's going to fuck the hip replacement guy. What happened to the physical therapist?

We don't know. We do not know. Also speaking to Paris, like, I mean, it was obviously they were doing a parallel between Miranda from sex in the city, judging Carrie for going to Paris and then Carrie doing the same for her to go into L.A. for a couple months. Carrie is like, I'm going to move to Paris. Of course her friends are going to be upset.

Miranda's like, I'm going to L.A. for a couple months. Carrie's, why do you care, Carrie? No, I know what they were trying to do. And then also, by the way, the trans rabbi needed more. I needed more of that. Listen, the funniest Byrne and Anthony, like, all the, there's so many good characters that I was like, give us more. There's nothing crazier, nothing in the world than the dynamic between Charlotte and

Carrie. It is insane. Carrie's like, I bought both of you tickets to come with me to Paris. And Charlotte's like, I'm in. And Miranda's like, I can't go. And Charlotte's like, I guess it's you and me. and Carrie's like, I'm all set. Rood as shit I have ever seen.

It is just a nonstop cunt parade in Charlotte's direction out of Carrie's mouth. It is so crazy. Charlotte's like, I think our friend has a drinking problem. I'm very concerned about her. And Carrie's like, I'm going to start a drinking problem if you don't shut the fuck up. It is so crazy to me. Yeah, it's so bad. I mean, Miranda was a cunt too.

I mean, we'll get into Miranda. But like, Miranda, what if such a bitch, like towards the end, I mean, I just hated all of it. Like the way she acted when I found this tweet that I liked, it said like, so Miranda is about to abruptly end her marriage and explore her sexuality, but Carrie isn't allowed to change her opinions about the afterlife to give her comfort after her husband passes. It was shocking.

And then she goes, it's guilt. Move on. Did you catch that? Yes, I caught it. The whole scene was so strange. And listen,

I understand there's creative license. And if we just watch people just be normal all day, every day, there would be no television shows. And I understand that we make characters are not believable. Sometimes Michael Scott is one of my favorite characters of all times. he's not a believable character. But I would like there to be some believability and kindness. And no one in this show behaves to another person how anybody would actually act.

And I do think there should be some believability. And I think a major theme of the last episode, I don't even know if people complained so bad about the show and so they actually changed it. But I think a major theme of the last show is that it's okay to like change and evolve and want different stuff and not be the character that used to be. Because I think there was so much outcry, especially about Miranda changing so much, that they had to build it to the dialogue. Like, it's okay to change.

and be a different person and evolved. But like, what are we doing here with these characters? You know what? I will say, I think that this demonstrated so much how Samantha was the best character and carried that show on her back. Like, Samantha cut up all of that judge. They were all judgmental. Miranda Carey and Charlotte are judgmental people in sex in the city.

Samantha had the best lines. She had the best humor. She was the most progressive. She was like never cringe. She was always on point. She cut up all of their bullshit. it. Like, this is the show without Samantha, honestly. I feel like looking back, you're like, they all kind of had this in them. You know me. I think we can agree to disagree. I don't think

Charlotte has hardly changed all. I think she was like the same character we saw in Sex and the City. Miranda changed for the worst of anybody because we do still have Miranda. I mean, there's so many think pieces on like, we shall all be Miranda's. And like, here we are. But you feel Samantha's absence so greatly. And like looking back, you're like, she was the one that always just got in there when shit got like cringy, mean, judgmental. You know what I mean? It just, she was so important. It's just so not the same without her.

It's she, she was the most progressive wine. I like to use that word because, like, I think I walked away from that show. I mean, everybody wants to be the carry growing up. Everybody was like, Carrie, Carrie, I want to be the carry. You grow up wanting that,

but like you look back, even Carrie in this rendition of sex in the city is so judgmental and sexually stifled, which I don't understand has like not talked to her husband about masturbation. I've never heard of such a thing. She had a column called Sex and the City. And you remember like this.

sexual progressiveness was just Samantha. First of all, if I, listen, I love this show. I want more of it. I think it's such, it's a train wreck. I'm obsessed with it. I was, yeah, I can't get enough of it. I want to say, I want to be, I want to keep it real. Be honest about it. Call us and we can discuss with them the plot lines for next season. Get rid of all the writers and the producers. We'll produce it. So I love that her podcast is going to be called sex in the city.

I mean, you know, whatever. It was cheesy, but I was like, that's a great, a great callback moment. But did you know that girl called her? First of all, someone tweeted also like, do they not know what a podcast is? Do we have these callers? Like it's a radio show. Someone called in and she was like, I'm so gutted. My boyfriend left me and Carrie's like, it is what it is. Giving her like a, it is what it is and you should have. I was like, I literally blacked out on the most generic advice that she gave towards the end and that made that hot ass producer want to fuck her in the elevator. No. It's so true. She gave the advice that I, We did that episode about the worst advice you can give people.

We said it in this episode. I stick by telling somebody who is in crisis, you will love again. It'll get better. Things are going to be fine. Everyone fucking knows that. Every person is a rational person that understands. If I just live long enough, I'll get over it.

That's not what I'm trying to hear right now. I don't call you for that. I felt so deeply offended as people who do a dating podcast that she was just like, I don't know. I was like, oh my God. also by the way. She didn't say I don't know. She's strung together a bunch of words. Again, I've lacked out. Also meant, I don't know. But she's strung together a bunch of words that were just, here's what I do now is that it will get better and you will love again and it will be fine.

No one wants to hear that. She shouldn't be giving dating advice. Like that's terrible. I don't know, whatever. It's unrealistic. Also, in saying that Che quit the podcast to go film a pilot that may or may not get picked up. Also, you know, the cool thing about podcasts, they can be remote. I cannot believe it. She just quit the podcast to film a pilot that may or may not. I can't. Anyone in entertainment also knows you don't quit your day job for something that may or may not happen. I know. Like Bobby, I was like, Ashley, bye. I mean, insane. And also, I don't think that podcast had been around that long. Carrie was new to it. It was just so insane. And like the way that she announced that, you know, it was so crazy. When she did this whole, like, let me like announce moving to California and then tell Miranda later I want her to go.

And then she goes, what can I say? I'm a narcissist. I was like, yes, you are. Yes. Don't. When someone goes, what can I say? I'm a narcissist. Fucking run. Run away from that person. You don't just like up and leave everything. You leave this internship you wanted and your friends behind. I understand she was going to L.A. for two minds. It's like not going to like Calcutta for a year. To throw a party

to sit your girlfriend down. In between your grandparents, Miranda looked like one of them. I couldn't get over it. She just looked like she was trying to look like a grandmother, the whole show. The scenes with her and Che, I'm like, what am I looking at? It's so true. She had this whole party to announce that she was go, like, and didn't tell her beforehand. Like, I would be like, we are not going to date anymore.

This is insane behavior. Also, Ashley, if we were at a bar and someone, like, stopped what I was doing, and there's like, let's be to 85 people in this bar and someone stops everything to, like, get on the mic and sing and song and be like, I'm going to California. And everyone, like, erupts cheering. What do I fucking care what you do? I don't know you. Well, I didn't know if it was like a private party or one.

I don't know. I just, that's not believable. It's not believable that anyone would treat their significant. like that, that you're, you're moving away for a couple months. You've even discussed this at all. You even mentioned that you applied for this thing. You're up for the role. You're hoping to get it.

You haven't mentioned this at all. It was so, it was just, I mean, Che Diaz, that was just, I don't know, the most polarizing character of the whole show. I mean, we loved her stand-up. I thought that that set was really, like, important. Her comedy concert. Yes, her comedy concert. Where was it?

At Webster Hall. Yeah. I liked it. I thought it was a great set. I thought it was important. I also liked that character until I hated that character. That move made me hate that character. Yeah.

Yeah. I was always like, I don't care about James. Like, I mean, I, every time there's an episode, I go on Twitter, I read everything. I screeched it everything. I put something on my story. So I just, Miranda was so awful. I mean, I get it. Like, follow your heart, you know, you're figuring out your identity.

But the Steve stuff was just really not okay with me. It just was so bad on so many levels. The car conversation with Steve was. truly one of the just weirdest, most selfish things, you know? And then she's going to go to L.A. And her son is going to, first of all, they didn't tell you that at first. I was like, she's leaving her son, but then Brady was going backpacking. So Steve's just all alone. Like, you don't, you spend your life with this person. I get it. I get, like, I understood. Like, I like that they show that like marriages go stale and there's more to life. You know I love

that message. We preach that message. But she just like threw him away in the trash. And like, we never saw him again. As Sex and the City fans, like, we deserve more. Steve deserves more. Like, why did we go down this road and treat this whole situation with such a lack of care? I totally agree with you. And I love the message that things get stale. I love the message that after 20 years, maybe we're not sleeping together. It's tough. It's work. It's hard. Maybe you want something else. Maybe you want to explore your sexuality. I love that message that things are like not easy. Maybe you got to go. I think they did the audience a huge disservice by actually not having that episode that every person was like, did we miss something here? Like, I would have loved to see the

development of like, how did you guys decide to like end things? Where are we going to move? Why did you discuss this with your children? Like, I would have loved to see that development. I would have loved to see how she like told Che she was leaving her husband, like, what that looked like? And Chase saying, like, I don't want to be in a monogamous relationship. What does that look like more? Like, I just feel like they did everybody like a disservice by not having like an episode where we dive into this and really like button this storyline up. A hundred percent. Like, why are we doing a storyline about, like, carries hip or carries condo.

Like, again, like, I always want to go back. I'm like, well, was it like this in Sex and the City? Did they just kind of move it along? You know what I mean? I want to, like, reflect. I'm like, are we just thinking about it in terms of like maybe better shows today that have a little bit more character development and more plot development? But I just don't think so.

I mean, Miranda and Steve, like, even think of the movie. Like Steve cheating, like all that stuff, then reunited in the Brooklyn Bridge. All that stuff was like, we were so invested. That's like the couple people care about the most. So to not, to all of a sudden have this heartbreaking conversation and then they show up and they're just like painting like nothing's wrong. And then Carrie just kind of rebuffs him and has him do a favor for her. And it's like that's it. And that was the last we saw Steve.

Also, where was Steve's hearing problems in that conversation with him and Carrie? Steve heard Carrie loud and clear across the room painting. Steve can't function at a green market on a Sunday morning. Can't keep his wallet in his pocket. He can't hear. He's all decrepit. His accent is 10 octaves higher than it ever has been before. And then, yeah.

And I'm not comparing it to the old sex in the city because I don't think that it's, like, I don't think that we can compare anything that happens today to something that happened 20 years ago. I'm comparing it to any other show today. And the writing is fucking lazy and the character development is lazy and the plot development is lazy. Yeah, that's all I'm saying is like, is this still the same type of show where you don't really get the backstory. It just moves along to the next. I don't really think so. I don't think I ever got life left feeling like that in, in Sex and the City.

I felt like I got the whole picture, you know. Yeah. Why did we bemoan big every other episode for 17 seasons? There were like continuing storyline. 100%. I had a few notes on Charlotte. Again, I think she stayed pretty consistent. I think you kind of saw them, her and Harry,

obviously come to terms with their daughters, like new identity and embrace that and use the right pronouns and stuff like that. That Bob Mitzvah thing or the Mitzvah, like, I get it. You don't want to do religion, whatever. But like, to do it on the day, you know, your parents have spent, what, tens of thousands of dollars? That was like, oh my God, this is why I don't have kids. I just, I mean, again, I don't believe that as a storyline.

Like, no one would behave like that. I know. I don't think a kid has the balls to do some bullshit like that. The day of, that's crazy. It's unheard of. I agree with you. I don't think Charlotte changed so much. I don't like love the character.

I think they sort of like amped up certain things. I really hated that storyline where she was like screaming at Harry refused to like apologize. Oh, no, I did too. For hurting my know you did. Like I just, I thought that was very strange. I just, I think they make her this sort of like helpless, bumbling idiot. So we talked about was that like, yes, I think that the, you know,

everybody gets a friend who's a minority storyline is really forced and that none of them seem to like understand how to interact in the world with anybody other than like white, straight, cisgendered people. It would have been the, um, yeah, gay people. It would have been the most believable with Charlotte and you and I were talking about that. And like, it's, I understood the storyline with just her. It didn't have to be every character. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, they could have just had like this like Charlotte gets woke storyline, but they kind of let it like permeate whatever. Also, again, cancerous enough. Like those characters were the best. I mean, I really loved the professor Naya's storyline. I would love to see more of that. The thing about the not having kids. Like that hit me so hard. I wanted to see more of that. So I love all those characters that they brought in. But yeah, I liked them more than the core characters.

I did too, actually. I liked all of them a lot more. I loved it. At the end, she said something like, you know, we. I forget how she phrased it, but like we just sort of want to feel like how it feels to be physically without each other. I like this idea that you don't have to break up because somebody's not working out. You can try and see what a different dynamic feels like. I loved that. Of course, they didn't follow up on it.

They just ended the show. Yeah. I mean, I just, I still, I don't know. I feel like I can't say like I still love these characters. You know,

I saw this really funny recap today. And it was like, I still love Carrie. I still love Miranda. I still love Charlotte. I'm like, I don't really. I just,

I miss Samantha. I love Seema. I love Naya. I love Anthony. I love the trans rabbi. Harry and his big old dick. Let's have his prosthetic big old dick. Let's have like a show now with just all the like secondary characters.

I love that show. I love that show. I know. I know. And I will watch a second season. I just, I feel that the writing was a little lazy. I really,

one of my biggest issues is the way that Carrie talks to Charlotte throughout the whole show. I just, I don't, I think this show was so much about like maybe our real loves in life are each other. Like the friendship loves are like the predominant. predominant relationship that takes us through everything. And I don't think she's a nice friend to other people. And I thought that they could have made it like a little more tolerable to watch.

Yeah, 100%. It just, it was, Carrie is the least likable. But then Miranda really came in and took the title by the end. And like, then I was kind of like, man, maybe Carrie isn't so bad. But then I'm telling you, Carrie became kind of cooler by proxy with Sima. She didn't. Well, FEMA's amazing.

Seema was the Samantha replacement. They had like, fucking that guy who was hot. And then Carrie got to. dose of her own medicine because Carrie was like, maybe it was just weird to kiss this guy. And she was like, I'm trying to get dick right now. And she just like hangs up. You know what storyline I loved Charlotte, Charlotte's Lily's tampon. That's so much trouble getting a tampon in. And my mom like didn't, I didn't ask for her help. She would have helped. But like, I really found that very endearing. That was my favorite episode.

Mine too. It was just, it was the one where they acted the most like normal human beings. It's like kind of cute and funny. She's teaching her how to put a tampon in. Yeah, it was the least horrible episode. Yeah. I read this great New York Times article or they interviewed like all the people involved in the show. They got very defensive. They're asking questions about like, do you think you did a disservice to Steve? Do you think you did a service to people 50 and older? And it was just like, no, no, no. You know what? I wonder if there's just, if that's part of it. I feel like I've seen that too and they're like very defensive and it's like, hey, everybody is talking so much shit about the show. Like maybe you should listen. You know me. I'm like, you're not going to please everybody.

I don't, we can't listen to people. Everybody that critiques us, like, you know, I can't say it enough. but it feels like you guys should listen. A little bit. You know, okay, can I just read this thing? Okay. This was this, Evan Ross, Ross Cats. This was on, do you see this? No, but I ended up.

You know this. Okay. He goes, I'm going to miss the fuck out of this show. Hey, it's Che Diaz. Miranda's wig. Harry's prosthetic hoc. DM me if you want to chill again soon, okay? Chuckie in the subway.

Stanford in Tokyo. You better step your pussy up. Shubbly. Miranda's a grunting orgasm. I'm not happy. Peloton, X, Y, and me. A finger made you feel alive. Steve's hearing aid.

Hot fellow's bread. Miranda, I've done a ton of weed. Cleveland, fertile mertle. I have a toddler, double vomit, fingering, craving me some Chee, L2W's Head to Tomoskino, Holocaust denier. I'm in a rom-com, Carrie. Like, what I'm a trip down everything? I know. I was reading it when I was getting my hair done,

like laughing at everything. I'm craving me some cha. I could cringe. And then he said, you can love this show, hate the show, love to hate it, whatever, but you cannot deny the show's grip. It's true. I mean, we just did. a whole half episode about it. He said, did I laugh at moments that weren't intended as jokes heartily?

Did I cringe often? Do I want more? Certainly. Here's hoping. Yeah, right. And I wonder at you, right as we're recording, Mirasha, who was one of our favorite episodes, unbelievable Dr. Mirshaw, texted us a tweet that she found that is so funny and so accurate from James Tyson.

It says, and just like that is the worst show on television. If they released a new episode every day, I would watch it. It never should have been made. I want 17 more seasons. It deserves every Emmy. The twist and turns in his tweet are so crazy. I feel like that. It's so accurate.

Every week I'm like, I just, I hate watch it so hard. And every week I say to you like, I hope they don't start making this less terrible because like I enjoy how terrible it is. Have we been punked? Like, is the joke on us? Like, do you think they were like, we'll never create a show as great as sex in the city again? So let's just have a show people are hate. watching. You know what I mean? Like, do you think they were like, we'll never do Sex

the City again? The second movie was an abomination. We can't ever go back there. Just make it a cringe fest. And everyone will cover it. Every single public, Vox, the New York Times, the cut. Everyone has covered every single episode. You're so right, because they're so bad. No show has ever been this bad and gotten this much press. I know. Most shows just fade into the abyss. Like, are they just, are they laughing all the way to the bank? Like, I don't care either way. That tweet, just like speaks to my soul. I'm like, I hate this. I can't watch enough of it. Give me more. I would watch three more episodes. I would watch 10 more episodes. I would skip all my obligations to watch more of this. Like, I've never felt like this. Raina, you know me. I don't sit through shows.

I don't even if like, I haven't ever said this in the podcast. I'll reveal it right now. I don't care. I'm not doing succession. I watch three episodes and I'm out. And I don't hate it. I just don't love it. So I don't know if I love, I don't know how I feel. I feel so torn because I will, like he said, watch 17 more seasons. I would watch an episode every day. I would wake up at 9 a.m. I watch it every day. Every Thursday morning I wake up like, it's Christmas morning. And I'm like, what terrible thing are they going to do on this episode today? I like, there was like one day I woke up and it was like cultural appropriation day on the show. And like they were telling Charlotte, she kind of like the dolls in her daughter's room. And it was like, what are they going to do this week to

make it terrible. And every week, I was just like, every year, I was like, I hope they don't make less terrible. I can't get enough of it. It's true. This is the worst show on television and I hope they make a hundred more seasons. But it's so crazy because like, it's not just the nostalgia. Like I think people that aren't even as obsessed with Sex and City as we were, as a lot of people were, are still hate watching this. Like, I'm not watching like two and a half men because it's bad. You know what I'm saying? Well, the writers for like the cut and Vox and like people, they're covering it every week, weren't alive at the times that you and I were watching this and like when we were like 18 watching this and emulating it. Like these are people that didn't grow up with the show as much.

And they're still loving to hate it. They're so loving to hate it. It's just like when you compare it to the just the lexicon of what's going on today, every other show, it's so bad. But I love it. I love to see what terrible thing they're going to do every week. I also just, I mean, it's special because they shoot it here. It's not on a set. It's not friends. I mean, it's still like the city we live. The city we live in, the city we love. 17 more seasons and the Emmys years hoping

okay do you think Samantha's ever coming back so I again the New York Times article I read this morning with all of the like producers directors whatever first of all

no all of them sound very defensive they did not give one inch in terms of like the questions but they were asked about Samantha coming back and the overall

was just sort of like you never know but I feel like Kim Katrow was like pretty clear she was just like I don't want to work with Sarah

Jessica Parker and this is dog shit. I will go to bed tonight, giggling about those ashes just being dumped out of her little Eiffel Tower. So, and like, the music stopped. It was like crickets. Well, these ashes just dumped. They didn't do a slow-mo. They didn't do anything dramatically.

Like, you should have seen me putting Dewey's ashes in the wind. It was drama. I had, like, it was choreography. Like, I was like, this is a moment. She was like, here they go. She did a shake. She was like, there they go. I saw that horrible dress.

She was wearing and I was like, I hope it's going to get all over her. I hope it ruins the dress. And it just went directly down. I've never seen ashes just fall without blowing all over the place. She dumped those ashes. Like my dad dumped his plastic bag of Dewey's ashes,

just one fell swoop. And he was like, I'm done. She Lee Heseltined that body. She Lee Heseltined Biggs. It's so true. Big predatory peloton riding ashes. Do you know what I never thought about is that like a body is a lot of ashes. It's not going in that little purse.

So that's what I'm thinking she kept some or maybe she's going to give some to the brother, spread them around. Who barely knows her? Yeah. Okay. I thought we were done and here we are. We have one final surprise. We do know one person who was on the show, one of our friends, a friend of the pod and

the love of my life. No, I'm just kidding. The father of my children I'll never have. No. Osama Siddiqui, who was on two episodes ago. Oh, he was on the episode where the kids were loud on the front stoop. Unbelievable storyline. He called Carrie Ma'am.

Yeah, it was the whole story. Carrie's boring storyline that episode was about her downstairs neighbor and she didn't know about earplugs or noise canceling anything. Wild storyline. What an arc. It was so wild. So ahead of its time. They really pushed the envelope.

There was so many dicks in that episode though. That was the dick episode. So it was, yeah. But anyway, Usama had this part on it and he was here doing a little something with us recently and we were like will you give us an exclusive so we did an exclusive interview uh with usama sadiki of and just like that and here is that interview guys we have such a treat for you we have the star of and just like that episode eight for about two minutes usama sidiki new york city comedian it's offensive that you said two minutes because it was like 35 milliseconds

okay it was not it was like half a scene it was were you in it twice no i was in it twice i wasn't it twice Okay. And there was lines. Two scenes. One where I'm just being super loud. My name is funny, loud guy. That's my actual script. They don't give you a name.

It's not like Daryl. It's like, hey, you're a funny, loud bit. And basically, I had to just yell and be really loud and just make Carrie annoyed because we're young kids on the stoop. Just having a good time. And then you said, sorry, ma'am. And that, like, hit her at her core. So it's, yes, dude. So it was like a climactic song.

Well, the whole, Carrie's whole story. line was like being called ma'am that episode basically so you really were a part of this a huge part of that story line. I was the main villain of that C storyline. Yeah. I was the, I was the, Daniel Lewis called me like at a boy kid, you know? I was big. I was I was like, I was like, I was at the line every, after every show now, there's like just women, sorry ma'am. It's like becoming my dangerous like Carlton dance or my Rick James bitch. You know what I'm saying? Where it's like, like, it's like this caricature where it's like the fans are just like there for the line and it's ruining my life.

Usama, I don't like being called ma'am, but I would let you call me ma'am in bed. I'll call you madam. You guys, the sexual attention in this room is unbelievable. Okay, I feel like Belle and I just need to leave so they can fuck, okay? Just like that. And just like that, Belle and I left so that Osama could come on Ashley. So this has been your thing. Sorry, ma'am.

Okay, be honest. How much did you love Sarah Jessica Parker? I'm a big fan of SJP. I think she's fucking shit. She got hotter as years went on. I think she's hotter in this show than she is in the original Sex and City. Just her vibe is like, she's like, like, when you're older and you're like... Namier.

Like, Thai, I don't know. It was hot. Maybe I'm getting old. I don't know. But during the shoot, she was walking upstairs and I was like, hey, Sarah, great job. Maybe I came out too weird. And she was just like, eh. And just kept walking.

Guys, you heard it here first. SJP's racist. I'm kidding. The SJ is your... I'm not saying no. Let the record show. People. So they do film all this in New York.

Yeah, bro. Where was that? I was in East Village. In East Village? Oh my gosh. In the hood. People went in the deep hood. Yeah.

Okay. Do you feel that you will be a recurring character for this storyline? Wait until you hear my yes, sir. Okay. There's a whole different story like I'm in B. I say, yes, sir. When Big comes back to life. They didn't come back to life.

Just kidding. They're definitely not doing that. If there was a writer, they're mid-writing, and they just threw that whole fucking broke out the window. So did you, that was the episode with all the dick. Yes. Did you know that it was coming? I requested to be on. Was your dick the third dick and they cut it?

And did it catch a breeze when you were out shooting in the East Village? My dick is sag, but I'm not. My day rate. I somehow have not had to go. Okay. Did you interact with anyone else on set? As JAP, the main, the young girl, who's storyline it was. The other loud girl?

Yes, not, she was also fun. We're talking to the white girl who was like the main storyline. That's what I'm saying. She was also like, the loud neighbor, the actual neighbor super hot. Yes. She was very like in excessible, like hot level. You know what she's like, hey, that was fun. Cool.

Just too cool for school. She should have been on Uniforia, to be honest. She was a euphoria vibes with her. She's very nice, but there's a demarcation very quickly on the acting set. Like, who has what power? And I was at the lowest level. So I was hanging out with the PAs, mostly. They were the most fun people.

I was hanging out with the guy who gave the pudding. I was next to him, like, hanging out. Someone asked you to go get him something. You're like, I'm on the show. I was like, yes, ma'am. As well. All right. Well, what's next for you?

Any predictions for the show? your character? What's your arc? Maybe wash a dish next time in the background. Do you have anything else like acting wise? Yeah. I have something coming. Oh, you're always acting. One more next month coming. And then one more month after that coming up. I like you in that one thing where you're

like clean cut. I like you all the time. Thank you so much. What was that again? Aquafina. Aquifina, yes. I was CEO. All right. Well, thank you for the... Actually, all this vibe. You never tell me until I meet you. You've always done this. I had to get a nose. I had to get a nose. job to try to lock you down.

Yeah, it's working. It's only some messages out here, you know? No, like two years later, I've been loving you for years. It's a bit. No, it's not a bit. Well, Osama, thank you for this. And just like that exclusive.

We really appreciate it. At your time, man. See that? All right. Well, there you heard it straight from Osama's found. Do you think that you guys are going to sleep together? And when?

It's so. I think I told you this. Like the day that he was here, like it's very funny because I'll just hit on him relentlessly. And he'll be like, Ashley, do you want to fuck? And I'd be like,

yes. You know this. You know, I think it's so abrasive that he thinks you're kidding. It's how I am with Dylan too. I'm always like, you're the hottest man, baby. You're a king among men.

And he's just like, I feel like Dylan thinks I'm kidding. Okay, here's the thing. I don't think we would get down to it. And here's what I think would happen. If Usama and I were face to face, let's say we're in our underwear. We've gotten to that point.

We're in our, I feel like. You don't wear underwear? True. We're in our underwear. I'm wearing lingerie for him. No. But like, you know where those shorts you wear in from my stepdad or house. Here's what I'm picturing. I picture us in a standoff. Like, maybe like, you make a move. And he's like, you do it. And I'm like, you do it. See, I knew you were kidding. No, I knew you were kidding. Like, I actually don't see it happening. We have a total friend vibe. When I'm around him, I'm not. It's, it's such a, I love having funny relationships like that where you just like aggressively flirt with somebody. And I don't, I don't, I don't, like, actually have feelings for him and he doesn't have feelings for me. You know what I mean? Like, I actually don't, I think he's attractive. He's so funny. I love being around him. I love flirting with him.

But, like, I, can I picture even making out with him? I actually can't. Well, that's my exact relationship with Dylan, their best friends. Dylan Paladino, who's also a guest in the show. It's just like, he's like, baby, I'm so in love with you. You're the sexiest woman. I'm just waiting you out. And, like, he calls me to talk about every girl he's going to break up with.

Like, we're never going to hook up. It's not like we talk about wanting each other, but like we would never. We're not like, it's just not like that. And I think those relationships are fun. It is fun. But it was funny because the day that we were here, like Bella was here too. She was like, what is going on here? I know.

She probably was like, what the fuck is going on to do you want to fuck? And I was like, yes, Osama? And he was like, seriously? I was like, yes. What are we doing here? I'm serious. Oh my God. Okay.

That took a turn. And just like that, best worst show ever made. Thank you guys for listening to this recap. Yeah. Thank you. And if we miss anything next week, well, I don't care. We'll talk about this forever. I'm going to miss it every week.

What am I going to hate every week? There's so much good TV right now. There's too much good TV. And, you know, speaking to good content, continue to listen to our show. You guys know where to find us. Girls Gottypacast.com. Girls Got a podcast on Instagram. I am Ash Hess.

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