Girls Gotta Eat - The Lies We're Told About Sex
Episode Date: October 16, 2023We're myth busting on this episode with all the lies/bad advice we're told about sex – from blowjobs to blue balls to body counts to penetration being painful. We're also discussing positions (inclu...ding a new favorite) and why you can still have great sex without an orgasm. Before we dive into the topic, we're unpacking a male behavior we hate (and also indicates he's not interested/intentional), sharing new icks, and advising what never to do when packing for a long trip. Enjoy! Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit our website for tour dates, merchandise, and more. Shop Vibes Only. Thank you to our partners this week: Daily Harvest: Get up to $65 off your first box at dailyharvest.com/gge. Quince: Get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order at quince.com/gge. Lume: Get $5 off your starter pack with promo code GGE at lumedeodorant.com/offer/gge. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Blue balls.
I really thought this was more of an issue than it is.
Girls got to eat.
Welcome back.
No, Azulcum.
Raina, you smothered him too much.
He did too much.
He was in my face, was breathing on bread.
And I was like, I'm going to lead into it.
He was smothering me.
That is so toxic.
He was smothering me.
Don't gaslight him.
Now you're gaslighting me.
He was smothering me, and I leaned into it, and he's like, I'm not into it anymore.
Come on, Azul.
Classic narcissistic.
Reina. That's so offensive.
He's not a narcissist. I want him to come up because
if you're watching on YouTube, I want everyone to see his
Halloween bandana.
Sparkleyes got it for him. He bought him two fall bandanas.
Come on, this is Azul's fall look. I'm sorry I called you a narcissist.
I didn't mean it. It's an overused term, Azul.
He doesn't even, he's so far from it. He didn't even register.
It's like, thou doth protest too much.
He's like, this doesn't apply to me and I'm leaving.
A hundred percent. Anyways,
hi guys. Hi guys. We're happy to be here.
Raina.
Midway through October.
Well, technically no.
But one more recording.
You're right.
What did I say to you this morning?
I said,
do you and Tessa,
I have to take my phone
and go and get from somebody.
You have to take my phone
and go through my date and message
and respond.
Say less.
I just, I don't,
I'm not going to do it.
What an honor.
You should have your phone right now.
Yeah, you should just be on here.
Talk to whoever you want.
We used to make Bella do that.
We used to get guys to come to the shows.
On my road trips,
I just give her my phone.
I'll let you guys know how it's going.
It's early in the month.
still. It is early in the month. Yeah, we had to just knock this out before we had out on this long
trip. Mine's a little longer because I'm going to go to Delaware first and then we're going to be
in New York and at this point we'll have done it all, but did the View and CBS morning show and then
Atlanta, Charlotte and Nashville shows. This trip, I have notebook pages of packing. I'm doing like
a family and boyfriend trip and then New York, all this press and seeing our friends and want to try
to get some workouts in and then three shows,
like the tour on the back end of this trip.
What the fuck?
This is my worst nightmare.
This is a nightmare.
You know,
every to my pack,
it takes me at least three hours.
I drink a bottle of wine.
I cry once.
Like, it is,
my house turns,
looks like a bomb went off.
I can't pack well.
And I've watched every YouTube and TikTok
about how to not make that happen.
Like, it's a real thing for me.
Like, I really,
I start to like cry,
I panic.
I'm just so frustrated.
I'm like, why is it take this long?
Also, I'm drunk.
Why am I so drunk?
Rain,
that's why?
At one time I tried to pack drunk
and I was like never again.
That's your problem.
I started off sober.
I figured it out.
I start off sober.
No more drinking and packing.
I'm like, why doesn't anything fit?
I'm like, I'm bloated, obviously, from the bottle of wine in my body.
That is so afraid.
You are.
Why is it so hard?
Oh, I was drunk.
That's insane.
So before we get into this episode, we wanted to add something in.
And obviously, this audio is going to sound a little different.
But we recorded this episode before what is recently,
transpired in Israel and Gaza and wanted to just add a statement in solidarity with anyone who is
needlessly and senselessly suffering. I am, of course, Jewish and I stand by my people, but
I also don't necessarily have a solution to offer for all this. And I can stand with the Jewish people
while also not standing by every act of the Israeli government, just like not every Palestinian
stands by Hamas. And I do not mean to conflate the two because these situations, of course, are very
different. Amas is a terrorist organization tasked with exterminating my people. But my heart is
shattered for anybody who is grieving and it's lost their homes and their livelihood or worse,
the people that mean the most to them in this world. There is no life on either side of this
that's more valuable than the other. And we are heartbroken for innocent Jews and Israelis and Palestinians.
hands. This conflict is obviously deeply complex and hard to understand and we condemn the deeply
disturbing inhumane acts of violence and anti-Semitism that have unfolded. And I've heard from so many
of you over the last week and many people have really taken the time to try to understand
what is happening and come out in support of innocent people on both sides. And thank you for
that. It's beautiful to see acts of charity and kindness through this absolute nightmare.
I just have to hope and pray that this ends before a more senseless loss of life and violence are perpetrated.
And our hearts just go out to anyone who is suffering and frightened and has lost people that they love.
I co-signed everything that Raina says.
I don't need to be repetitive with it.
This has been on my mind constantly.
All of the innocent people killed on both sides.
It's soul crushing.
Of course, what is happening in Israel and Gaza is beyond complex, but it's not complex to,
to me, to us, to denounce anti-Semitism as well as terrorism and genocide and killing innocent
civilians, raping women, bombing whole towns, killing entire families, like all these children. It's just
like we can't stop thinking about it. It's so horrifying. And, you know, I just, it's like,
this is not like a hot take, like war is bad, you know, and there just has to be a better way for
people to coexist and not be fighting for their people or their religion or their land without
the loss of so many innocent lives. Of course, we do not have the solution.
And I also feel for anyone who's been a victim of this,
atrocity in the past or in the present,
has lost friends or family members or just hurt and or fearful for their people.
I have so many thoughts on, like, social media about this
that maybe we'll discuss it a different time
and, you know, just what the Internet does to divide people further
and inflame already contentious situations
and spread misinformation.
It's just atrocious.
And maybe we'll take it.
tackle this later, but it's just constant swarling thoughts about everything that's happening and
like what you're constantly seen on the internet. And obviously, we're so lucky to have a wealth of
information, but there's such a dark side to it too. And so we just wanted to make this statement.
And, you know, I support Raina and all of you who have sent us messages and who are compassionate
with us and the way we speak about these things. And of course, our hearts with anybody who
is especially close to this. So with that being said,
this is a weird transition to go right into the episode, but again, this was recorded fully prior.
And our goal is always to, of course, speak about these subjects we're passionate about,
but also make you guys laugh at the end of the day and dark times be able to provide that relief as well.
So we're going to keep doing that and proceed with the episode.
Thank you so much, guys.
Okay, can I tell you this one funny thing?
I'm excited.
Okay.
We were talking about packing and clothing and stuff.
I had a bunch of Halloween items arrived last night.
Second to none, everything.
I was like taking all these thirst drops.
I mean, that one picture.
Would you send them to you?
I sent him to you first because Sparkleys was sleeping, but he woke up to it.
Actually sent me some of the most graphic nudes.
There is a whole vagina.
I saw everything besides the crack.
Come on.
Your vagina.
It's just, I was like, wow, she didn't have a wax yet.
I mean, it looked really nice.
Right now.
Stop!
It looked really nice.
And then you sent me like the back of the costume.
I know.
I got it.
You were like, don't worry.
I have shorts that I'm going to wear.
And also you sent this to me and I was like, is this for the view?
Like, what are you wearing this for?
Okay.
Yeah.
Your butt looks so good in that.
I don't want to give it away because it's one of the costumes for the shows,
which we'll talk about in a second.
But yeah, this one body suit, I'm going to wear shorts probably with it.
But I just wore it and I put on like thigh high boots.
And it was just not.
full coverage enough. Like my poissips were hanging out the side.
Both sides. Yeah. It was giving Chloe, um, trying to wear one of Kim's thongs.
You guys don't have a puppy vagina. It's a puppy. And I could see when I even looked at the body
says, that's tiny. That's not going to cover this thing, this thing. I have a normal size
vagina. But I don't. I just like, it looked really good. It looked really good from the back and these
like crazy boots. But yes. So Portland, Seattle, Vancouver, all three Halloween shows,
dress up if you want, no pressure. We'll do a costume contest. We'll bring some of you up on stage.
We did this before in Boston a couple years back during a holiday weekend. And Rain and I
will be dressing up three different costumes all three nights. So in Boston, we did taco and soup
can every night. But we have gone all out. I mean, I'm just having the packages like roll in. I
ordered so much stuff. I'm so excited. I'm having so much fun with this. I know. I'm coming.
I have a third. I'm like on the fence about. But I sent it to a couple of people. I wasn't sure
if it was going to hit with this generation of kids.
But I sent it to someone of Tess's generation.
They knew what it was.
So I was like, okay.
I can't wait.
And we give away vibrators and toys at all of the shows.
So if you're coming, about 50% of the people dressed up in Boston.
Oh my God, it was so much fun.
Tons of people dressed up.
And please come, bring your friends, get dressed up.
If your friends have never heard of the show or listen, they'll still love a live show.
100%.
They'll love it.
It'll be like a really fun party.
Yes.
And those are coming up.
Vancouver's sold out, I believe, at this point.
Portland's really close.
And there's still some tickets left for Seattle.
but they'll be going.
And last year we did,
we told people from Vancouver
to come to Seattle
because Vancouver always sells out
super, super quick.
But it's a quick drive to Seattle.
So come to Seattle.
We won't really be opening more seats up.
That's Girls Gotta Eat.com for tickets.
We can't wait to see you all through the fall.
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It doesn't have an actual microphone on it.
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Okay.
I just have these other funny things.
We were talking about travel and stuff.
I can't remember if I told this on the podcast.
It was like a piece of my stand-up for a minute.
But we have this driver that we use in New York from time to time.
And he's so wonderful.
And we love him.
His name is Gondo.
He's Indonesian.
And I say that because one of the times I used him really early on,
I had him bring me to get my rhinoplasty
in Short Hills, New Jersey is about like a 45-minute hour-long drive.
So he picks me up like sixth in the morning.
And I was just getting known.
So I was like talking to him about like, you know, his story of immigrating to America and his family.
And he's like married with kids.
He has this beautiful family.
I love seeing them on Instagram and everything.
And we were just chatting again.
It's like 6 a.m.
So I'm not loving the like small talk that early.
But I was doing it.
And I was like happy to do it.
I know.
Right.
So he said something like, you know, are you single?
He was like, so what about you?
And what's your relationship status?
And I was like, I'm single.
And he goes, Ashley, you need to get a boyfriend.
You need to get a boyfriend.
He said it's me.
And I'm like, yeah, what do you think I'm doing getting this nose job?
No, I'm kidding.
I was getting it for me.
But it was just so funny that he's taking me to my nose job.
And he's like, you need a boyfriend.
Also, like you got to go picking up at the store.
Like it's so easy.
Yeah, I'm just going to go into Target and get one.
this afternoon. I forgot. So I hadn't thought about this in a while. I mean, that was whatever,
spring of 2021. And I think I got along. I had a memory unlocked because I texted.
I texted him. Basically, we're leaving Delaware. I'm dropping sparkly off in Philly. And then I'm
going to have gone to bring me to New York. Bottom line, he was like, send me your flight number.
And I said, I'm not flying in. I'm dropping my boyfriend off at the airport, then going to New York.
his flight departs at nari and yada yada. I'll be at the airport at like 7.30.
Congratulations.
Three fire emojis.
And then if you could ask him for his flight number still, that would be great.
And then wait for your engagement ring emoji.
No.
He's trolling you.
He was almost like, wait.
He's so excited.
I know.
He's so excited.
Fire emoji, ring emoji.
That is so funny.
I want no reaction.
When I tell somebody I have a boyfriend on the music, that tracks.
It's just so funny, like, congratulations.
Congratulations.
We never thought it was going to happen.
And here we are.
He's so excited.
He really wants the best for you.
Oh, my God.
That is so funny.
Thank you for talking about.
I know.
It took me a minute.
I, like, sent the screenshot to Rob, but I was like,
Honda was on one because he's like how we met him.
And he just thought it was so funny.
And that I remember about like, Ashley, you need to get a boyfriend.
I'm like, he's been waiting for this moment.
You don't think about it.
I think about that a lot, him saying that to you.
He's very expressive.
Yeah.
I love it.
Oh, I know.
I love him.
He's excited for you.
He's going to see a girl all grown up.
Okay.
So you had some things you want to talk about.
You want to talk about some icks?
I uncovered a new ick for myself.
Uncovered it.
Watching people eat yogurt.
It's peak ick.
It's disgusting.
This is so rude.
I eat yogurt all the time.
It's disgusting to me every time you do it.
That's my signature breakfast.
Your whole personality.
Yeah.
I did it in front of you this morning.
And I caught a glimpse to myself.
You get like that white line.
Oh my, that across the bottom lip.
And it makes me want to vomit when I see other people doing it.
And I caught myself with the white line.
And I was like, this is, I'm icked out by myself.
I don't even want to know that happened.
I get a line more with smoothies than yogurt.
I guess I'm just a professional yogurt eater.
But like there's this one Taylor Harvest smoothie.
It's a black sesame banana.
It's black.
Like what?
Like, I use a straw, but if I just sip it and I don't use a straw, my lips are black.
There's a blue assay bowl at great white that I'll be there and mouth full of blue.
Yeah, and sparklyzes like, your mouth is blue.
Okay, that one came me the ec.
The black, it's just the white crustiness.
It makes me sick inside of my body.
It is so disgusting.
And on a man, let me watch you eat yogurt, like a little girl.
Is it because your mouth also has to be like kind of purse your lips to like get it off the spoon?
It's not a masculine thing to eat, first of all.
Yeah, that's fair.
I don't want to watch a man eat yogurt.
It's disgusting.
Okay.
It's not a masculine breakfast item.
Eat a burrito, a breakfast burrito like an adult.
And I also, just the white line, it makes my stomach turn so badly.
I remember, like, one time, like, my skin is dry.
My lips tend to be dry.
I keep them moisturized.
I have a hand lotion, aquifer on me at all times because I hate a crusty lip.
And I remember one time I was with Kate and she goes,
your lips.
And I couldn't feel it, which I can usually feel it.
Like, I have aquifer on me all the time.
Like, I hate the feeling of a dry lip.
And so I try to keep them like nice and moisturized.
And she was like, what is going on?
I looked.
They were so crudely.
We died laughing.
I was like, also, like, that's what true friends do to each other.
Like, I think also, like, she couldn't handle looking at it anymore.
I know.
There is a point in which I'm like, I'm just going to let them live for a little bit.
And then you have to say something because it's disgusting.
Yeah. I have two more because I was at Whole Foods the other day.
I saw this guy drive by me. He looked so sexy. And then he like couldn't find a parking
spot. And I watched this car just like go up and down all the aisles. And I was just like,
it gives me the heck. You can't find a parking spot. Yeah. Well, it's funny. So there were none
available, right? There was no spot. There's no spot. Okay. But like one time I was with our friend
Ted Jones. And this was kind of early on in it culture. So it like made me laugh even more.
Remember when Iick was new and people would say it. Like remember Bella said it one for the,
one of the first people I ever heard say it.
I was like, oh my gosh, like so long ago.
Like, to me, she created it, but she didn't.
But I was the creator.
We were to talk.
He was here.
This is before we lived here.
And I had a show with improv and he was driving me around for the night.
And there were plenty of spots, but he couldn't decide on one.
And so he was like wavering.
He was like, wang, what the best way?
Like he was kind of pulling in one.
He couldn't get.
And then he goes, are you getting the ick right now?
I was like, yes.
Like, we weren't on a date, but it was so funny.
You have car.
Like, I need a confident driver.
Totally.
I had an ex that was just.
kind of a more of a nervous driver.
And I was like, this is disgusting.
Like, I'd rather have you wreck, but be confident about it.
Totally.
Right.
Like, you're like, it was the other person's fault.
They deserved it.
Like, don't be too safe.
No, I'm kidding.
I have one more, heck.
You inspired it.
You doing it.
Listen, it's not...
What is this?
I ate it.
The yogurt.
I've never seen you eat yogurt.
That's because I do in private.
That's because I get the white line and it's disgusting.
Okay, you just did this thing.
And I was like, if it's a girl,
never would phase me in a million years.
If it was a man, I will never.
I will never fuck you.
You got a piece of hair in your mouth.
You were struggling to get it out.
And I run the tape.
Spliced it right now.
We had the cameras on when I was doing it.
Run the blooper.
And I was like, it's normal for girls.
You use so much hair.
Like, of course you get hair in your mouth.
But like, watching a man try to get a piece of hair out of their mouth.
It's so embarrassing.
I wonder sometimes what guys think about.
Just the sheer amount of hair we lose.
Growing up, my brother had this like hair phobia.
and I would fuck with, like, he hated it.
He shaved his head, he hated hair.
It was the whole thing.
He's fine now, and his wife has, like, long, thick hair.
So he's dealing with it.
But, like, I would leave...
Like, I would fuck with him so much.
Like, I remember this one time I, like, passed him a jolly rancher.
You know, I was, like, a fucked up kid.
Yeah.
And I actually opened it, and I, like, licked it so it was wet,
and I wrapped a piece of my hair around it and hand it to him.
He, like, started crying.
And, like, we shared a bathroom growing up,
so I would leave all my hair on the shower wall.
And he would be like,
Mom!
Mom! There's hair on the wall.
Like he would go on to the floor and like pick up the hair.
I put my hair on the shower when I'm losing it during my shower.
Do you not?
This is not weird.
I know a lot of people do this.
What do you mean?
Because too much hair will clog the drain.
So when I'm losing hair, when I'm shampooing, which I do.
Oh, you mean like when you shampoo your hair and you pull your hands out there's hair?
I put it on the wall.
And then I grab it from the wall and like put it in the toilet or the trash.
Like, oh.
Some goes down this drain, but like the more hair that goes in the drain, the quicker it'll get clogged.
A lot of people are shower wall people.
That would really give me the ick.
one piece of hair on the wall.
Oh.
I used to do it on purpose for my brother.
After I took the face off his Barbie doll.
He's fine now.
But like I mean, I'm also just like hormonally.
I think I'm losing a little bit more hair right now, which I don't love.
Like my hair actually like has just been kind of on my mind because it used to be this thing
that I had this like long perfect hair.
Looking at old photo shoots, I was getting kind of sad the other day.
It's totally different here with the water.
I think it's the weather and the water.
I know.
But like I know what's normal for me and I am losing more right now for whatever reason.
I think it was probably all the hormonal changes.
something that I'm like overly concerned about but there's just hair everywhere like my bathroom
floor like I'm like vacuuming and I clean it up but I always wonder if guys are just like god
there's so much fucking hair everywhere all the time I mean I think about that every day I'm like how do
I produce this much hair and like you and Tessa are here a couple days a week and but it's like I go
around the house I vacuum like three days a week I'm like how is there this much hair yeah it's
so much hair every corner like how do I still have hair on my head if there's this much hair
Like that came a lot.
Like I feel like boyfriends, husbands, partners, whatever.
They're just always covered in our shit.
Like you like give them a hug.
They're wearing a light colored shirt.
They're like, oh, there's my makeup.
They have your hair on them all the time.
They're just constantly like, do you think that grosses the amount?
Nothing grosses met out.
No, like not if they love you.
They're like, ruin my shirt.
I don't care.
I love you.
Do you know what gives me the heck a little bit black hair in my hairbrush?
Like if somebody uses my hairbrush.
And I wonder people with like black hair feel like that about blonde hair.
Like, ooh, what is this like?
I don't want someone else's hair in my hairbrush.
Just you think it's just anybody else's hair.
Yeah, anybody else's hair.
Because I wouldn't know the difference.
Yeah, like, I don't want to see someone else's hair in my hairbrush.
A different color in my hairbrush really gives me the ick.
I have a weak stomach.
You're like Matt.
So Ix, this kind of ties in.
This is another funny thing I want to tell you.
I'm nervous.
I have an ick incoming.
Oh, pending ick?
Yes.
A pick.
Hear me out.
I'm going to tell you the whole journey.
So we're recording this before I go to Delaware.
And one thing I want to do when I'm there with Sparkleyes is ride the bikes.
So my brother bought me a bike for Christmas.
I have my beach cruiser at the bike at my brother's house.
And then he's going to ride my brother's bike.
And we'll ride around.
We'll do this trail that I love.
We'll ride to Rojobit.
We'll ride bikes this weekend.
I have a whole plan.
Matt's going to bring us to his house.
We'll grab them.
We'll have him for the weekend.
He had me convinced that he couldn't ride a bike on the phone.
Oh, immediate.
You guys, I don't know how to ride a bike.
And I said, I cannot have two partners who can't ride bikes.
I said, are you fucking with me?
You know, Raina can't ride a bike.
He goes, I know, we're one and the same.
and I was like, you gotta be kidding me.
He had me going for, like, minutes.
I was like, a man that can't have to.
I had a bike.
Like, I was like, oh, my God,
my brother's going to have to teach my boyfriend
how to ride a bike this weekend.
Because this is part of our itinerary.
You're going to have to stay at a hotel and he can't see Matt.
And so he was...
We're not staying at Matt's house.
I was like, where are she going to have sex at Matt's?
That's off the table.
This is a passing shower thought for me.
Like, if I wouldn't do it, I don't think I could do it.
Matt doesn't want it.
Like, it's just not...
It's not a thing.
I don't want to have sex in any of my family members houses.
I'm a grown ass of a 40-year-old woman.
Like, we would be allowed to stay there.
It does turn me on.
It's disgusting to me.
But even like when Stephanie's sister lived with him that summer, he was like, I have one
role.
You're not bringing dudes back here.
You know what I mean?
And not like a huge is like, I don't want guys coming in and out of the house.
You know what I mean?
Also, she's much younger.
Yeah, she was like 20 years old.
So anyway, he was like, I'm just playing with you.
Like, I'm nice at riding bikes or whatever.
And I was like, we'll see.
I'm nice.
What does that mean?
Like, I'm nice to something.
I think it's like a hot thing to say
Like I'm nice at that
You never heard that saying?
No, that's hot
Yeah, like when we were talking about Wardle
He was like, oh, I'm nice at Wardle
Why?
I love that.
That's sexy.
That's sexy.
You never...
If there's a man listening to this,
you should start incorporating that
And that is sexy as fuck.
Yeah, I'm nice at that?
He doesn't overuse it, but he says it about some things.
No, overused eck.
Well, he said he was nice at mini golf
And then I beat him, so he needs to cut back.
You're both very tall.
I can't imagine either of you playing mini golf.
You're so far away from the ball.
All.
I just barely beat him, but I kind of fucked him on this one hole.
But anyway, but he's fucking my holes all the time.
So it's what it is.
Hey.
Okay.
Anyway, that was my point.
I was like, I was panicking.
Like, I cannot have both of the most important people in my life that can't ride bikes.
Like, what is this?
Is this, am I the common denominator here?
But he was kidding.
When a girl can't ride a bike, I think it's adorable.
It's like, I'm so stupid.
I don't know how to ride a bike like.
Like, what's he going to look like?
Do you think it's going to be?
do you think I'm going to get the ick.
He's ick-proof because I love him
and I'm super attracted to him, but I'm just saying
like, do you think he's going to look weird riding the bike?
I think he's too tall to ride bikes. I think Matt's too tall
to ride bikes. I mean, bikes look like they're going to crush under the weight of you people.
You're all so tall.
Not sparkly-lice.
That's true. He's skinny.
I'm skinny, too.
I'm skinny too.
Who is skinnier?
But Matt is a big bike.
It's a big cruiser.
He got it custom made.
Okay.
I was talking to somebody on Hinge.
I wonder what you guys think.
is a scooter of vehicle.
Yes.
This guy, I have this like cute prompt.
I'm like, I'm new to L.A. I'm stupid. I don't know anything.
Which is not true. I could give you an amazing tour of L.A.
Right, exactly.
I'm just like, I'm so helpless.
I'm so stupid.
I'm so stupid. I can't drive.
We go to a restaurant. I'm like, I can't read.
You read me the menu.
Wait, I'm kind of dead at this.
Someone should do this sketch.
Like how like they take it.
They overcorrect.
on the like let guys feel needed.
You know, they're just like, I can't walk.
Can you carry me?
I can't pick shoes.
How does shoes work?
How do you tie these?
This guy, I was like, I'm so helpless.
I don't know anything.
And he's like, I'm an amazing tour guide.
And I was like, what qualifies you for the position?
He sent back the longest.
It was a whole page.
I didn't love it.
Too much.
It was too much.
I mean, I'm still off.
Okay.
Well, you know, I do keep in mind all the time what you said about Sparkle Eyes,
which is like, you look at his profile and you would be like,
ew, girl, like, it's, okay.
If those are your words, I didn't say,
ooh, gross.
But yes, I don't know if I would have matched with him.
Dating profiles are ick.
It's ick.
It's embarrassing.
Everybody's dating problems is embarrassing.
Like, no one's out of here, like, killing the game.
Like, everybody's like, I don't know what to say.
You're in an opening line.
Everything you say is ick.
It's just, it's weird.
But his was too much.
It was a full page.
That's not as prompt, him responding to you.
I think he just went too hard on trying to impress you kind of as my vibe.
Mm-hmm.
Which is crazy.
Which is not the worst thing in the world.
I know.
I want to be on a pedestal.
I want you to think I'm better than you.
I think that we should all be dating somebody
that loves us a little more than we love them.
Well, a co-sign.
Just kidding.
My aunt told me that when I was like six.
Everybody says it.
Laura Wasser said it.
Didn't she?
Am I making this up?
I don't know.
I love her, I miss her.
You know, it's funny when adults tell you things
that you're not capable of understanding.
Like, that's a concept you don't tell a six-year-old.
What is a six-year-old going to say?
That is so true.
My aunt was like, find a man that loves you more than you love him.
I'm like, what does that even mean?
What is love?
What is sex?
I'd rather hear that, though, than, like, they're bullying you because they like you.
That's the most toxic thing.
We teach little kids.
It's insane.
He's being mean to you because he likes you.
How do you drill that into a kid's head?
I get so fired up about this.
It is true.
It's usually true.
But, like, why?
There's so much context that, like, a child could never understand.
This whole, he's being mean to you because he likes you is an insane thing to drill into a kid's head.
Okay.
That's an insane thing.
He said he had multiple.
He said, we can take one of my multiple vehicles to blah, blah, blah.
we can take my truck to the beach or I'll take you on a scooter, blah, blah. And so I'm dissecting
this with Sparkle Eyes and Ashley. And we had a real discussion about it's a scooter of vehicle.
Because I was like, it's not. He means these two cars. And you were like, nope, scooters.
No, he means. So A, I don't hate the truck and scooter combo at all. Matt Hasseltyne has a big
truck and he has his scooter. And he scoots around the beach and stuff. This guy lives at the beach.
Different vibes to have a scooter in West Hollywood. But you still could do it. But like, when you're at the beach, it's so.
It's so nice to have a scooter.
Like we have some guy friends that have like just electric bikes.
You know, scooter is like an elevated electric bike.
What else would you call it?
Is my point.
Like, what's the word?
It's a vehicle.
I know.
It's a motorized vehicle.
I think it's sexy.
Also, I'll tell you what he hasn't done.
And he has not said the word meditation to me yet.
So I am all in.
You know what I have on a loop in my head is like from that clip.
I just want a guy that's not going to talk to me about meditation.
Like the way you said it.
Yeah.
I like always watch those clips back.
I hear like certain.
I like I'm better to watch clips.
I do that too.
Sometimes to go to sleep.
I either watch all the videos that Ryan made
of our live shows. Not because he made them.
It's because they're of us. Yeah. Or I watch
old clips of us and I just laugh at how funny we are.
Are you still talking to him? Because Sparkleyes did ask me.
Because it was the three of us that were on this group chat
about it. Are you still talking to? He called me when I was at the airport in Dallas.
Called you? Calls me all the time.
No. The guy on Hinge.
Ugh.
Well, I decided to
I know you talk to him all the time
way more than you share
I really was like
why are people asking the answer is yes
that's crazy we're talking about
of course I'm talking to him
we're still together
I love watching Tesla laugh and stuff
I did not respond to his last thing
and then last night I told you you
you need to take my phone and force me to do stuff
also when I'm drunk I've decided that I also have to respond to things
sober me in the middle of the day
is not responding to people so we're drunk
responding not drunk packing
yes so when you have an inclination
to get drunk and pack and have
the meltdown.
Yeah.
We're going to do is we're going to be sober and pack.
And then we're going to be drunk hinge.
And when I say drunk, I mean, I pour like one shot of bourbon.
But.
What?
Why is this funny?
I don't know.
It's just you're the way you talk about alcohol, like what actually goes on behind closed doors is like so not.
Like Raina's like, I haven't drank all week.
She's like, I've only had one bottle of wine every night by myself.
It's so ridiculous.
I only, I have two glasses of wine.
I barely finish the second.
Unless I'm packing, I have the full bottle.
You gave me anxiety talking about drinking and packing.
Like, I get anxiety packing sober.
Like, to add alcohol into the mix, yeah, every once in a while I'm the same.
I think I would have a glass of wine while I do this thing, put some music on.
No, you have to be clear-headed.
You're right.
That's why it takes me so long.
Because I have one glass because I think it'll, like, de-stress me because it is so stressful.
packing because we need like travel outfits.
We go to work all day at like a coffee shop.
Then we need an outfit to wear it to the venue.
We need venue outfits like it's too much.
And so I'm like, I'll have one glass and de-stress, put on my like,
go radio dance around.
And then I have a third glass and I convince myself that I'll do this in the morning.
And then I really hate myself.
Yeah.
For three days like that Austin Dallas, professional packer.
Like I'm boom, boom.
I'm carrying on.
I packed so quickly.
I knew exactly.
But once we hit this like 12 days.
for me, like, or, you know, a week plus, like, it gets really hairy.
What I did for Europe, my packing tip is I just do a lot as many neutrals as possible that I can
make the match.
And I take photos of every outfit.
So I know exactly what's in the suitcase.
And I know what I've pre-planned.
I use packing cubes that I bought on Amazon.
They're like 10 bucks.
So that's really helped my packing game.
Yeah.
I mean, we said that that Lillian Charles, who is our friend and she's a stylist in Atlanta.
And she came on the show before.
I believe it was like 2020.
She said that that kind of I've never forgotten.
and like the pick a color scheme.
And a lot of times that's just going to be like black and neutrals.
But like sometimes I'll be like, okay, I'm doing my like navy moment on this trip.
You know, so everything's like maybe shades of blue.
Raina, okay, what were you going to update us?
Are you talking to him or no?
He followed up and said, how's this weekend?
And last night I said, how's tomorrow night?
So that would be tonight.
Oh.
So I'll let you know.
Oh, the last thing was like it could be tonight.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Let's get your phone out.
Okay.
We'll see if it happens in real time.
Okay.
So there's this thing you want to discuss.
I just had this thing happen.
with this guy, and it reminded me of something that happened with you a little while ago,
pre-sparkalized, sparkles, and never.
And I think it's like, I just like to tell you guys stories I found anecdotal.
And if there's a takeaway.
This guy who I thought I had plans with out of town, so like I was traveling somewhere
and I thought I was going to see him, hit me with this like, I'll let you know.
And I find it like so insulting.
So let me explain a little further.
I thought we'd plans in another city.
And he kind of hit me this text that was like, I'd love to see you, but I also have some friends
in town. I'm not sure what's expected
of me, so I'll let you know if I can see you.
And I'm insulted when anybody
breaks a plan with me and then acts like they didn't
know we had one. Right. I don't like it when
friends do it. I don't have any tolerance for it.
But especially with somebody you think you've like a romantic
involvement with, does that. It really bothers
me. And I was
just like, okay. And he's like, you know,
I'm not sure when this person's coming in town.
I'm not sure what the plan's going to be. I'm going to be dragged around.
And I was like, I don't need any more information about this.
You are breaking a plan with me that I thought that we
had. And I hate
this like I will let you now. And I don't always want to subscribe to this feeling of like if they
wanted to, they would. But that is usually how it is. And I have previous experience with this
person and I know how it feels like when he wants to. When he's intentional. And also I wasn't
like begging or anything. I was just like, okay, cool. Like I'm never going to beg anybody to see me.
If you want to, great. If not, I will never ask again. I have like almost too much pride sometimes.
I think we want to talk about this in a broader sense of this whole, oh, I might be going out of town.
I have friends in town.
Like a lot of time it's that.
Like I might have this thing.
Let me let you know.
Which I do it too.
Like I mean, not a lot, but I've done it, I guess.
I don't remember the last time I did.
You know, I'm a mature-ass adult.
I say how I feel.
I don't try to string people long in life, friends, romantic partners, or otherwise.
But I've done it.
You know, you're buying some time.
You're unsure if you really want to see this person.
So if you've ever done it, you know why you're doing it.
So when someone's doing it to you, you know why they're doing it.
You know, I kind of sometimes come back to Nick Vial,
saying that like men and women aren't that different. I don't necessarily agree with that sentiment.
But like some of this stuff really is the same. Like they're doing it for the same reasons you do it.
You know, and I'm not saying this is the case with you and him, but I'm even thinking about the guy that I feel
did this to me. He lived in a different city as well. I was going there. I had a stand-up show there.
And this was something that I had hooked up with on the road. I was into him and I was coming back
to his city. And I never saw a relationship with this person. But I was like down to fuck again.
And he was just like, oh, I might be going to the beach that weekend. I'll, I'll let you
And I was like, this is my answer.
And of course he never reached back out.
Totally.
It's that same energy.
Like we talked about this with the guy earlier this year who was like, let me check my
schedule.
That was also a stranger on hinge.
But there's this thing.
And it's like you kind of have your answer.
And if they do reach back out, it means that you were always just an option.
It doesn't mean they fucking hate you and ever want to see you.
They're keeping the door open in case they want to.
But they don't want it enough.
They're not being intentional.
It's like the absolute opposite of that.
And we're adults.
You know what you're doing.
I also feel like this is a little different when you're younger.
Like you kind of don't know.
Things are chaotic.
But then you explain that even more and are like, I'll hit you up this time and let you
know.
Like there still can be intentionality.
There's your word.
There can still be intention wrapped up in it.
You know, like a late 30s, 40 year old man that's like, I have friends coming in town
and I'm not sure or I might be going on town and this and that.
Shut up.
It's one of two things.
It's either a lie.
And you know exactly what you're doing.
An actual lie.
All I'll let you know means is I have other.
options and I want to see which one of them is the best at the end of the day. That's all it means.
Or you really are that sloppy that you like have somebody coming into town. You don't know
what you're doing or you don't know like what your plan's going to be or like when you're
going to go out of town. Like this is a very specific situation and different than yours because
he had said he had friends coming in town. Your guy had said like I might be going on a trip.
Who doesn't know if they're going on a trip? I don't buy this. I think it's weird. I don't
say I don't want to be with somebody who lives their life that chaotically because I think it can be fun
to be a little spontaneous. But most of the most of the way.
you know what your plans are.
Also, this is not somebody I'm like, seriously dating.
Somebody I just want to sleep with. I thought we were just like get drinks and have sex
and that would be it. Like, I just don't like being hit with this.
Like, I'll let you know because all that says to me is like you are an option.
I'm going to treat you like one.
And I didn't follow up at all.
I would never follow up to something like that.
And I heard from him as soon as he knew I wasn't there anymore.
Yeah, I don't like that either.
And I think such a tell is that if they offer another time, because I do understand
there can be extening him circumstances, got your phone.
family comes in town. You're like, what the fuck is this going to be like? You know, you got
you're wrangling your family. It's crazy. You got a bunch of sorority sisters coming in town.
Or you got like some, you know, chaotic friends coming in. You really don't know. Or you like,
maybe you do have tentative plans that's, I don't know, weather dependent, work dependent, this and that.
But like if someone actually is into you and being intentional and wants to see you, they'll offer
another thing. Yeah, lots of things aren't so duplicitous and mean, like, it can just be the truth.
I mean, it's hard to make plans of me sometimes because I'm like, we run two businesses.
We're on tour. Sometimes I really am going to have to just let you know how I'm feeling that day.
I don't really like to make plans too far out because I have no idea how tired you and I are
going to be. That's fine. But my point is when somebody hits you with that, there is no me
following up. Hey, it's me. I'm here. I love to see you. Like, yeah, they already know you want to
see them. You've already made that clear. I don't need to hear that I'm an option. And I hate this
behavior. I don't know. I've never dated women, so I don't know if women do it. But men certainly do
it of like, I'll let you know. And when the time frame has passed, they check in with you.
That's just them trying to like stay on the bench and stay under the graces.
And we're not doing that under any circumstances.
And it's not like I'm such a bad bitch.
I'm just, I don't like the behavior.
I'm not going to put up with it.
I don't like it.
I don't treat other people like that.
And you know what I don't want to talk to you with this other guy checked in with me.
Last weekend I was like, are you around, blah, blah.
And I was like, no, I'm at home.
What's up?
And he was like, I want to do this thing.
And I never responded.
That's the response.
I don't want to see you.
So I think that like, you know when somebody wants to see you or not.
Yeah.
And it's not this like,
phrase that if you have a good solid relationship with somebody and they say this to you,
you're like, oh no, red flag. Like, you know what I mean? Like, this is somebody in the gray area.
This is somebody, yes, this is somebody that's already giving you doubts in the first place.
Like you have somebody that every once to a mile, yeah, those words escape my lips. Like,
you really do need to like figure it out and I'll let you know. And then you know that that person will
let you know and they'll come back around. But this is like more of that like if you were already
having doubts and they hit you with this like, I might be doing this. I might this. Like it's, yeah,
it's what we said it is. And to your point.
about the second you leave.
That, I mean, I'm not saying that happens to be all the time, but it has happened and
it is clear as day.
And half the time, they haven't even tried to hide the fact that they saw your Instagram story
leaving town.
Insane.
They know you're gone.
Insane.
It's exactly them.
They're like, let me just stay on this bench because I might want to try to get with her again.
So they hit you up the second they know the window is closed.
This was the funny.
I'm like looking at this text threat.
This is so funny because he said when you leave on Saturday and I said three o'clock.
And he hit me up at 3.30.
That is, I mean, it was.
Give it a couple hours, bro.
Like, he really was like, how transparent can I be?
I was just like, we're done here.
I didn't ask to see you.
Like, you didn't want to see me.
That's, it's clear that you didn't want to see me.
Yeah.
I didn't beg for it.
So like, let's be done here.
Yeah.
It's bad behavior.
I'm just not, I'm not, I don't want it.
And I'm not going to, like, check in with people and do those things.
Which I'm too old for this.
It reminds me of dating my early 20s in New York.
Yeah.
Every guy on earth was the I'll let you know guy.
I know.
And again, there's worlds in which this is reciprocal.
and you both are doing that to each other
and it's just a hook up and that's fine.
You know, like it's not that someone does this to you
and you cut them off.
Like, it could be like, yeah, okay, maybe it'll work out.
But if you really like this person,
you want to be with them,
you are being intentional and you're pursuing it.
Like, it's probably not reciprocal.
Yeah, I remember my mom saying,
don't show me a pile of shit and tell me it's a garden.
Like, checking in with me 30 minutes after you know I left town
and saying, how was it?
How was your trip?
Don't do it.
I am smarter than this.
Don't insult me by pretending.
I don't see right through this.
Like, that was the worst offense of all of it.
I actually don't care that you didn't see me.
I don't care about this.
I'll let you know shit.
It is so insulting to me that you follow up after you know I've left.
Yeah.
I can read.
I know what this means.
Get out of here.
You think I'm so stupid.
I'm going to be like, oh my God, I'm so glad to talk to you now.
You don't need to be in my emotional space.
Remember the guy that did to me for three days in a row.
I was texting him and he would.
not respond till the next morning. I fell for it three times. And like one time it was at night,
which tracks, you know, maybe I wrote back something at seven. I get the next message the next morning.
Then one time it was like three and he didn't respond until the next morning. I was like,
I am such a fucking idiot. But that dick was good. That guy had tattoos and he was tall. Yeah, he was
sexy. Like we hooked up here in L.A. actually. And he lived on the East Coast. And again,
I was never trying to date that guy, but I was definitely trying to get it in again.
And he played me like a fiddle.
It was very clear to me.
And I gave it up.
I was like, I'm out.
You know, I think the best thing to do is be like,
probably not going to see that person.
And then if they come around and you feel like you want to get down, then you can entertain it.
But like, I don't hope, I guess.
I'm making plans.
Make plans.
You hit me with the, I'm going to let you know.
Then if you check in with me, maybe.
You know what I think about you.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I don't know.
You made it up?
I think it's Rihanna.
I'm going to let you know what I think about you.
All right, keep going.
That's it.
You just make plans and live your life.
I mean, I've said this so many times in the show.
I remember, like, in my early 20 is just like sitting at home, fully dressed, makeup on.
Like, maybe he is going to let me know.
No, he's not, sis.
He's not going to let you know.
So make other plans.
He's not gonna let you know
I'm playing it right now
Okay, oh no song
No more
What I think about you
You should make me your girl
Your girl
Yeah, you got it
Maybe you don't harmonize it the right way
Yeah I forgot the fucking words
Yeah you think that that was me doing my best
Maybe you didn't harmonize it
But I didn't know the words.
I knew four words.
You think?
Okay.
Anyways, I just want to see you, I want to see all of you just go out into the world
be treated the best in the world.
Also, just know these signs.
Like, I just wish I knew this shit when I was in my 20s.
I do wish, like, at 23, someone was like, sis, he's not going to let you know.
He's not going to let you know.
Like, don't do your makeup for this.
He's not checking it.
Don't do your makeup.
You know?
Like, I don't wax your pussy for this.
Oh my God.
I would be so upset.
Oh, my God.
When you would, like, shave your legs and your pussy and put your makeup on and, like,
not see that guy that night, like, oh, my God.
So it's like the kiss of death.
If you do do those things, he isn't going to let you know.
If you go full hairy, he will let you know.
I know that Rob would always say, like, don't clean your apartment.
That's true.
It was like, if you prep for it, not going to have it.
If you want it too bad, the universe is like, no.
If you come home and you have to move laundry from the bed to the chair,
that's when I've looked at the ugliest,
been the hairiest,
that is when I'd pooled the hottest guys.
I know.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
He used to do that a lot.
Is that skinny guy I dated?
Wow.
He did?
Did this friend do it?
That I dated?
No.
It was like the only funny thing he said that was funny.
You can't use that too much.
He used it a lot.
This is a one joke.
One bit.
One bit was Owen Wilson impression.
It was his one bit.
Oh my gosh. It kind of sounded like that guy.
You know a fucked up nose like him too.
Oh, yeah.
He was nice.
We did an episode about him called You're Not the One.
Okay.
Speaking of past episodes.
So today's episode, so it was kind of inspired.
We did the worst dating advice you've ever heard.
And I just love that episode so much.
I think it was two years ago, do you think?
Do you recall?
Probably.
I'm always like, it was in the fall of 2021.
But our website, Girls Gotta Eat.com, is every episode.
You could search them.
So it was inspired by that.
And we have so many episodes about what to do during
sex, blow jobs and butt stuff and all that. But I thought it would be fun to talk about the worst
sex advice you ever got. Yeah, you came up with this idea to do this episode and then we were like
both on the fence and then we crowdsourced on Instagram. We're like, yep, let's do it. Some of it is
really fun and light and funny. And some of it's like a little deeper. Like the stuff that you're
told when you're young or at just an impressionable age that you buy into. I was actually surprised
by the submissions for this and stuff. Because at first I was like, this is all going to be like
weird, silly sex stuff. But there's more like conceptual stuff that you're told.
that I thought was really interesting.
I'm excited to unpack.
Yeah.
Let's just come out of the gate
with one of the most popular responses,
which was that sex is supposed to hurt.
And pain comes with the territory and all that.
So, no, it's not supposed to hurt.
Well, I want to talk about it from like a virginity standpoint also.
Okay.
You know, like I think that sex can be uncomfortable
when you have it for the first time.
Your vagina is stretched out.
Like anything else that you do that stretch your vagina out,
you may experience some discomfort.
But you shouldn't be having painful sex
regularly. And we did a whole episode with Dr. Sonia Balani about pelvic pain. And we got a few responses
that were like, I had painful sex for years before I went to a pelvic floor specialist.
And Loub is your best friend. I mean, I didn't know the word lube at 18. Never occurred to me in my
life. And I was with my boyfriend wrote a giant dick. But I mean, I know all our vaginas are
different sizes too, but I just, I think back to my personal experience. And again, my experience
is not everyone's, but like, he'd have a really huge dick. So did the guy that you lost your
virginity to.
And it was uncomfortable the first time, but then it was manageable.
I mean, again, like huge dicks.
Maybe you have a shallower vagina.
Like, you could experience some discomfort there.
But as a whole, the narrative that, like, sex should be painful is not true.
Yeah, I also just thought I had to fight through it.
Like, I didn't really know how to move my body.
Like, sometimes I didn't know how to, like, angle my hips.
Like, doggy can hurt sometimes.
But if I angle my hips a certain way, like the dick doesn't go as deep almost.
Yeah.
Like you're blocking it from hitting certain things.
I mean, a big dick, doggy is painful.
Yeah.
You know, like, just in general.
So I want to spread that message too.
Like, I mean, if you watch the Kim Kardashian sex tape, like,
Ray J can't get in there from the back.
He has to...
She's my height.
And he is the biggest dick over is my height.
Yeah.
He is to like prop himself up.
Like, there is a point where it's hitting the back.
I mean, I got to finish with doggy.
We're not starting with doggy.
Like, I like, I need to be like good and lubed up and turned on for my hips to part
that much. Yeah, you're just getting
pounded. Like, you're filling in your
guts. Yeah. You're just
a whole at that point. I just, yeah,
I'm like, let's get you coming.
Let's get you coming. When you flip it
a dog, you're like, we're done here.
Yeah, I mean, I can come with
like clitoral stimulation. Like, this is a great
time to use one of our toys, I think.
It's like during doggy, but like, I'm not
saying I'm ready for it to be over, but I don't want to do it
too long. It's like, I don't like to use
the word painful, but it's the most that I feel
uncomfortable. Do you like dog even?
talked about it. Yeah, I like it. I think it's sexy. Okay, so I was talking to somebody about this, type A fun,
type A fun. Type A fun's like I like it in the moment. I'm really enjoying this. Type B fun is like I can
masturbate to it later. I don't necessarily love it as much in the moment, but I really enjoy thinking
about it. That's how I feel about people spinning my mouth. In the moment, I'm not like,
wow, this was amazing. But when I masturbate to it later, I really enjoy thinking about the memory
of it. I wonder if it relates to that. Like, Doggy, I'm probably not.
going to come from it unless I have a toy. I can't even masturbate during it. I really need
like a vibrating toy. Yeah. But what I think about having sex, it's mostly doggy. I think it's
sexy. Like I think you're like bent over a guy's like grabbing your hips. Like I think they might
be grabbing your hair. They might be like spanking you a little bit. This is like personal experience.
Like I just, I'm into it. And sometimes they just come in your back. Like I'm into the whole experience.
I'm turned on by it, but I'm even more turned on after. It used to be more my fave.
I mean, my taste have just changed.
Like, it used to be, I used to want way more oral sex, way more doggy.
And now, like, I want more finger stuff, less oral.
And, like, I'm down with all positions.
You know what I'm loving is that Lotus position.
I guess I knew it had a name.
But Emily Morse just posted this on her Instagram.
It's when you're, like, facing each other, like, your legs are around his waist.
Like, it's super intimate.
Oh, I come really hard from that.
That's, like, the hardest example.
I'm not doing that with someone.
I'm not really into.
It's super intimate, I think.
You're, like, in an embrace, essentially.
It's so, yeah, you think.
It's insane.
It's, like, the sexy.
Like, when I've done that, like, we're so in love.
Like, you feel really connected.
But that's not every time either.
You know, that's like once a weekend.
Once a week.
Not once a week.
That during the weekdays, it's once a weekend.
I'm in a long-distance relationship.
She's like, we only do weekends.
I really get off from that.
That's really nice.
It's hot.
But yeah, I feel like I used to just to circle.
I used to experience a lot more pain during sex.
I didn't know how to move my body or angle or just ask someone to stop.
I was just like, I should just take this because I'm here and that's how sex feels.
Yeah.
And the lube is just such a huge part of it.
And like we just always want to remove the stigma surrounding lube in the bedroom.
You know, like no guy should ever shame you, you know, especially if you've been going
out it all night, you've been drinking.
We talked about it with birth control.
Like, it doesn't matter.
Whatever the reason.
Even if just naturally, you just.
not as lubricated as the average person.
Like, I still remember this time when I was with this guy and I was like, God, this hurts.
I mean, I know we've been like hooking up all weekend.
This was years ago.
And I just like grabbed a little looph and I was like, oh, there it is.
Uh-huh.
I think there is a lot of shame in feeling like your body is not naturally producing enough
liquid so that you're like juicy and lubed up.
But like, an ex of mine, he's enormous.
He's six foot three.
He's a dick that is in proportion with his body.
And I can't take it.
It's too much.
I can't do it without loob.
and I'm just juicy as they come.
I can't do it.
Yeah.
And it's just also like if you're really going out
for a long time,
like I'm not a waterfall down there.
Like if we're having some like long,
prolonged, maybe we've been drinking sex,
like the faucet turns off eventually.
And we need some assistance.
Okay, that brings me to one of my next things
that we both want to talk about,
which is that you have to come every time you have sex.
Yeah.
To enjoy the experience.
We talked about this last week,
but we'll dive into it more.
I mean, yeah, like if the bad advice,
the lie,
also just like false narratives.
But like if you didn't both come
or one person didn't come and like wasn't worth it
or it wasn't good and that's just not true.
You should want to come by the way.
We hope you're focused on your pleasure
and so is your partner.
But they could be doing everything they can.
You could be doing everything you can
and you just don't get there.
Or sometimes I'm just ready for this to be over.
But I like creating experiences
I could fantasize too later.
So maybe I'm not finishing this moment.
But like I didn't really come during sex
until like my mid-20s.
It's like consistently all the time.
Like I have a high finish rate
probably compared to your average person right now,
but that took me a really long time
to figure out how to do that.
And like, at least into my mid-20s,
I was like, I'm not coming during sex most of the time.
Like, this is a nice experience.
I'm glad if he liked it, I'll masturbate later to it.
But like, me finishing was like not really,
I didn't even think it had to happen.
Totally.
I was like, this is a foregone conclusion.
It probably won't happen.
Totally.
And, I mean, that brings us back to like,
but this narrative of it's all about the man's pleasure,
which like all we do is debunk that.
So that's out the window.
But you know, you're taught that.
Maybe if you're of our generation,
like that was kind of your sex education,
your magazines that you were reading and things like that.
And I think that's obviously like not what we're doing these days.
I don't think many people listen to show think that way.
Yeah.
But I still wanted to address it.
Yeah.
It came up.
This generation is so lucky.
You don't have to think that.
I want to talk about ones that you feel like you may be bought into.
I have my number one.
What are you a number one?
I just have one that I'm like,
I thought about this.
Well, there's a couple things that like people thought
food was sexy and reversy blues.
She puts like the whipped cream bikini.
That's not fun to me.
That's sticky.
That's messy.
I'm in my head.
I can't get out of my head.
Obviously fingering.
I can't talk about it.
I can't talk about it enough.
I thought that you'd be like ramming fingers in your pussy hole.
I thought that I discovered the clit like Christopher Columbus.
I just,
I didn't know that anybody was doing stuff like rubbing that.
So that was what I grew up really subscribed to my whole life.
Yeah.
But some people like the finger.
We talked about with Maya and Sierra.
I had that recently.
Just fingers penetration.
I like it.
I like it.
I like all the things.
I like, yeah, I like everything.
But I'm just saying, I thought that, like, that was the road to having an orgasm and I was like, oh, it's not.
Yeah.
Okay.
Right.
Okay.
Right.
While you're talking about, no, but while you're talking about these, like crazy ones, like ice blowjobs, like pop rocks, blow jobs.
Like, again, if you're into it, no, shaming.
But I think Cosmo was running out of stuff in the 90s.
And they were like, ice.
What?
I think it's a thing.
Yeah.
No, no.
Temperature play is a thing.
Okay.
But Cosmo was like, we got nothing love.
Let's throw something up a wall.
No, no.
I get.
I know people are into this and like hot wax and ice and all that stuff.
And I know that can be hot.
But I feel like on a dick, like icy.
I don't know.
I don't have a dick.
So it's like hard for me to.
It has to be premeditated.
Well, it's kink, which is also totally fine.
Poprox is insane.
Poprocks on a dick.
Pop rocks are shards.
They are like shards of glass.
And there's a huge hose in your mouth and pop rocks.
No, the pop rock is crazy.
But also if you're into it, go off.
But yeah, I think it's just like somewhere along the lines it was like, put an ice cube in your
mouth.
And it's like, what did you ask your part?
Like it's just kind of like exercise and survival.
Yeah.
It's just like it's the same thing as drink hot tea and then go to it.
You know, it's like it's temperature play.
It's the thing.
We have like stories about this and the vibes only app.
It's too many things to think about.
I can't have an ice cube and a dick in my mouth.
How are we not choking?
Yeah.
Okay.
I feel like one of the ones that I subscribe to the most.
We've talked about blow jobs like spit and swallowing like thinking you have to
finish the job.
I didn't realize it could just be foreplay.
And then we did our whole blow job episode about this and just like you don't
have to be like, I'm a spit girl.
I'm a swallow girl.
You can be, I'm a four play girl.
I am the queen of loving blow jobs.
And I don't think I've made it clear that I never finish a blow job.
I'll get out of here.
I'm down to finish a blow job.
But it's, again, it's like this thing of that it has to be every time once you go down there,
you got to get your wheels turning about what am I doing, how am I finishing this?
Also, I feel that a lot of guys cannot finish from blow jobs.
I've had like a lot of guys that I've dated and friends of mine.
And that's also kind of a shameful thing because I think like, guys, you're supposed to want to get their dick sucks.
And so men are a little more hesitant to tell you.
that they can't finish from a blowjob.
So you're just down there forever.
Like, if you can't finish quickly,
then I can't be down here doing this job.
I love that you said that.
I've definitely had that experience.
And you're right.
There is also that narrative out there
that like men are going to come the second
you put their dick in your mouth.
And we've all had guys be like,
you can come back up.
I'm not going to come from this.
That same with us.
The same with like,
I'm probably just not going to come from you,
looking my pussy.
Like, let's have sex or let's do something different.
So I love that too.
You're like,
What is going on? Am I bad at this?
Uh-huh.
You could be.
I know tons of guys.
You could be.
I mean, sometimes just like a guy that can jerk off in five seconds.
It's not going to come from a blowjob.
They need specific temperature and rhythm.
Or like fucking you.
Yeah.
I'm glad you brought that up.
I know lots of guys that can come from sex in two seconds.
Can't come from a low job.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
The other thing, blue balls.
I really thought this was more of an issue than it is.
This is one of my favorite Nikki Glazer bits from one of her specials
when she was like, I mean, yeah, it's a feeling.
It's not a problem.
Men are not equipped to deal with anything.
If men had to have periods and babies,
it would be the end of the human race.
Like, men just can't deal with anything.
That's why.
Well, we've said this, I think, on the show.
If a guy is saying this is a problem
and you have to finish him off, run.
This is a huge red flag.
Grown-ass, mature men that you want to date
are not bringing up blue balls.
They can feel some type.
away. I'm not negating that if you get really turned on and you don't have a release, you can feel that
in your balls. Yes, that it's physically a thing, but like, yes, you can go relieve yourself or be,
it just goes away. This isn't something that's crippling them all night if you don't jerk them off
or finish them off. Like, I really was just like, I can't leave him hanging. What? I always thought
that. It'll go away. The feeling will go away. Or they get a little teeny headache. Grow up. No,
you don't. Get out of here. If you get a migraine from blue balls, you're prone to
migraines. You're getting them anyway. I'm not a doctor. But, okay, I have a deeper question for you.
Do you feel that sexual chemistry can grow over time? Yes. Not attraction, but chemistry.
Yeah. Okay. I mean, I also wanted to give an update on that note that we talked about this
in the summer of this girl who messaged me and she had this dilemma with this guy who she had great
sexual chemistry with and this other guy who she did a great emotional connection with. And I
at that point, she'd cooked dinner for emotional connection guy. And she didn't give me too much
details, but it sounded like she was going to go with him and see if, like, they could develop
the sexual connection. And they've been dating for three months. Yeah. I know. She's like updated me.
I was like, cutie. Oh my gosh. I mean, I can't say this enough. I feel like the people I've
dated seriously, the sex was not mind blowing the first night, even sometimes to the point of
being like, quote unquote bad or awkward. And it like got so much better. And I mean, you're
saying chemistry though. You can break that word down in different ways. Yeah, you could actually... Chemistry.
You felt sexual chemistry towards him, but very much. People can really change in the bedroom.
Like, once they realize what you like, I mean, no one can read your mind. They're basing off their last partner and what their partner like.
They may have not been with somebody who is as adventurous as you are or on the opposite spectrum, maybe a little more inexperienced or like, you know, shy or like no one knows.
So they're always going into it.
Like, this is a brandy person I have to figure out.
Totally.
So I want to always speak pretty sensibly about my current partner,
but I can't believe, like, how the sex is got.
Like, not that I can't believe it, but it's just like,
I wouldn't have known night one how we would be now.
Uh-huh.
And I think that maybe he hasn't been with somebody who's quite like me
in terms of, like, being really into a lot of stuff.
Right.
And, like, being really communicative and, like, dirty talking
and all that stuff.
So not that he's an experience,
but I think I'm at a little maybe different level
than his previous partners.
I mean, I know this to be true.
And he stepped it up.
I mean, it's like the best sex I've ever had.
I mean, obviously I'm in love with him too.
But like it just gets better every time.
It gets like crazier, it gets dirtier, it gets hotter.
It's like this is like the perfect sexual partner for me.
And that happened over time.
I think that every person shows up in a relationship with a lot of years of
breeding before you.
I have no idea what they were told about sex and shame surrounding those things and what their
previous partners wanted, like you said.
People show up with a lot of baggage.
There is so much shame around like bring a sex toy into the bedroom.
And as long as you debunk that for somebody, I think it's fine.
I never try to judge people via the first and second sexual experience.
It's fucking weird having sex with a person the first couple times.
It's so crazy.
Especially someone you like.
It's crazy.
It's even worse when you like them.
Like someone you don't give a shit about it.
I couldn't care less. Like a one night stand. I'm doing all the things. The first time of you sex with somebody is so nerve-wracking. You're like, I'm going to like how I look. Am I going to like how they look? Like, sometimes you're like, I don't know what's going on under that shirt. Yeah. And I don't know. Do they have bitch hips and big, and big thick thighs? Am I going to like that? I don't know what's going on under there. And like, it's awkward. And you're doing all this stuff. And you're like, I don't know if they like this. And like, am I allowed to do the things that I want to do that's going to make me like this? Because like, what if you have to masturbate in order to come?
Like some people are like, okay, I have to be in this exact position, touching myself this exact way.
Like, are they going to be okay with this?
Right.
Yes.
If they're like fingering you, for lack of a better word, using their hands.
And you've been doing that.
You know what you like.
Like, is there, are they going the same direction, same speed?
Like, again, you have to like teach them.
If they're willing to learn and figure you out, I mean, you're going to have amazing sex.
Totally.
Wait, what was the wrong advice that it can't grow over time?
The sexual chemistry does not develop over time.
Oh, yeah.
No, not true.
I mean, I can generally tell if I am attracted to somebody.
Like, I guess you could break the word chemistry down differently.
Like, if I look at somebody as a friend, the chances that I'm going to see them in a sexual light are pretty slim.
But this is by person.
Totally.
This is someone, like, sometimes absolutely not.
Right.
Sometimes you're like, we don't mesh sexually and you may never.
So it's just based on the person.
Like, if someone's really into you, they want to please you.
They want to figure out what you're into.
They're curious and they want to have better sex with you.
Then it's on.
But some people are not.
Like, some people are not open.
So then it's like, no.
It's so interesting because somebody I dated,
I'm incredibly attracted to him.
Like wildly, if I could build a man.
I think he is the sexiest person.
I love watching him do everything.
But the sex was not even close to, like, the best sex.
And yeah, I got off.
I like came.
But, like, he had an overall refusal to, like, talk dirty or do anything,
all that kinky, sex really was about him.
Like, there would be some times he was, like,
pounding me so hard. I'd be like, do you even know
that I'm here? I hate this, but like,
I'm going to take this, I guess, so you can finish.
I didn't feel like I was in danger. It just didn't feel good.
I felt such a chemistry towards him, but like,
sexually, we just, like, weren't really there.
Like, sometimes you think about all your exes, you're like,
when I get back together with him and him, and I like so many things about this person,
but the sex would be a real challenge for me.
Right. And then you can also, conversely,
have someone that may be looking at them,
initially you're not, that's not my perfect physical specimen.
I'm saying this because you felt that he was.
You know, so you can have the converse of like,
you wouldn't look at someone and be like, oh my God,
I got to rip his clothes off and that could turn out to be someone
that you have amazing sexual chemistry with.
Which I've had that too, where I probably wouldn't pick him out of a catalog.
Yeah, I'm thinking of your ex.
This is not to say this person isn't attractive.
It's just not like, that's my perfect 12.
Exactly.
The other guy, I'd be like, if I could build a man, that's what he would look like.
This guy, I don't know.
If he was at the bar and I had enough to drink, I would do it.
He'd be fine.
And then it was like amazing sex.
He blew your mind.
So yeah, I do think it can grow, but I think you both just have to be willing to work on it a little bit.
Okay, there's something I wanted to do.
I wanted to play some audio from the vibes only app about hand jobs.
Okay.
Do you know which one?
No.
Oh, here it is.
In defense of hand jobs, Francis Ellis.
So the bad sex advice is that guys don't like hand jobs, why they can do it themselves.
They're always going to be better at it than you can be.
and we had Francis do this for the Vives Only app, and I wanted to play it.
Okay.
Here's why I love hand jobs.
It's the one for-play act where you can still talk to me.
Blow job, your mouth is full.
You got to take it out.
How's it going?
Is that good?
Yeah, keep it going.
Hand Job, you can have a nice, lively dialogue throughout the whole thing.
Tell me I'm a bad boy, you know?
Tell me I'm a loser.
I don't know.
Whatever it is that we're into, I'm going to be into,
because you're into it.
And that old saying of,
why would I do something to him
that he can do better himself?
That only applies if what you're doing is bad.
If you're giving a C-minus effort on the handjob,
yeah, we can do a better job than that.
But a very good hand job, we can't match that.
If you're bringing essential oils to the table
or burning some incense
or playing some sort of diverting sounds,
whether it's babbling brook or rain shower,
airplane cabin, any of the tracks that you might use to sort of
muffle a sleeping partner who has breathing problems,
that takes us out of what's happening here and sends us into a different realm of pleasure.
It really is quite nice.
So keep in mind, a very intentional, prepared handjob beats anything that a guy can do to himself
any day of the week.
Bad handjob, pass.
So don't sleep on hand jobs and try.
Yeah, I don't, I hate that old adage of like, why would you do something to him that he can do it to himself better? He can't do it to himself better. He's looking at you while you're doing it. That's so hot. I also love the dirty talk aspect. I mean, Francis made it funny with like, tell me I'm the bad boy. But like, you can talk during it. Yes, he's not going to use lube. Like, you know what I think is so funny, like talking to guys about masturbating and you're like, wait, you don't use the lube. And they're like, no, I don't use the lube, Ashley. I always thought they did though. I always thought guys had just like a bucket of Vaseline.
next to the bed. Well, I think sometimes they'll use like body lotion, but that dries up quick too.
Like, my nivia? Like, no. Like, you always see lotion so funny because it's like built to absorb into
your body. Right. It's not a good move, but like most guys don't have lube hanging out for their hand
handiops. Well, lube and vaseline obviously are not supposed to absorb into the skin as much. So like,
Vaseline, that's crazy. It's so thick. Vaseline, petroleum jelly. No. Oh my God. Okay. So hand jobs.
I mean, here's the thing.
I think hand jobs can be intimidating because of this.
It's just like blow jobs.
You don't have to finish it.
Just do it a little bit.
Again, I just like, you're like hesitant to get down there.
I haven't done this in a while.
Great thing to practice with like a partner that you feel super comfortable with.
You know, and if you don't end up with them, take it on to the next.
You know, but when you really feel comfortable with somebody, just get in there.
Like grab a little lube.
Be like, I'm not to give you the best hand job you're real life and just own it.
It's the same little job.
Like just think you're good at it.
Get into it.
be like, is this pressure good?
Act like you're given a massage.
You know what I mean?
Like, I think ask them what they want.
You're playing with their dicks.
It's nice.
It's fun.
Who doesn't like that?
Like, it's naughty.
I love like a little handjob appetizer.
Yeah.
Just to get you going.
You don't finish that job either.
But also that's kind of hot.
To finish a handjob.
Yeah.
Those last time you finished a handjob, that's crazy.
Girl, I don't know.
It's just like a fun way to edge, I think.
Okay.
Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?
So fucking stupid.
This is some old-fashioned
as evangelical Christian purity culture bullshit.
Well, I just think that's, you know, updated today.
It's like, don't sleep with a guy on a first date.
He'll never talk to you again.
And it's like, I don't know.
I always think of this one a little more, yes, it can be interpreted various ways,
but like moving in with somebody before you're married or engaged.
Well, I have moved in with several people before.
We were married and all of them.
Shut up.
We didn't work out.
All this is just, it goes back to the thing that you always say, which is like,
you want to say it?
Yeah.
I mean, I just, I think you should do what you want.
Like, I think that if you're feeling it and you want to sleep with somebody,
you should sleep with somebody.
And we always talk about, like, it sort of depends on how you act afterwards.
Like, I wouldn't have any expectations of the person just because you slept together
after a first date.
But, like, withholding sex is not going to make somebody date you longer, unfortunately.
Like, it's not going to necessarily make them be like, oh, my God, I'm obsessed with you.
Conversely, having sex with somebody immediately is not going to make them write you off.
Like, you're some charlatan.
Charlatan.
Also, there's no harm in waiting.
too. Like it's just, this is so case by case, like, Rayne and I both slept with people night one
that we ended up dating that we may or may not be in relationships with now. Like, it just,
it's fine. But like, there's also no harm in waiting too. You know, like this just, there are
no rules when it comes to this. I think you like know in your heart, most of my serious
relationships. I fuck them the damn at them. That is so funny. Like so many of them.
Listen, if you sleep with somebody on a first date, I just, I wouldn't have any expectations
of them. That's not your boyfriend tomorrow.
You know, like, just be cool about it.
But I just, at this age of my life, I'm like, there's no rush.
I've slept with so many people at this point.
I'm just, I'm row hard and put away.
So I'm perfectly happy to, like, make out with you, and that's really nice and sexy and
fun, and then we'll go our separate ways.
Like, if I actually have more of an emotional connection to somebody's sex is better,
so like, why not wait a little bit?
I'm talking three nights.
It's not go crazy.
Okay, well, you said you've slept with so many people.
so body count, you know, this whole narrative of like guys won't like you if or if you slept
with so many people. I saw this insane thing on one of those dumb, like probably right wing
podcast. I don't know if this is on my explore page. I don't know how this came across my feed,
but like some dumb idiot saying that the more men you sleep with, the less your connection
will be like with the next partner, like with your like forever partner. And it was insane.
The less the connection. What are you talking about? The more people. I am so fond of
sex with because I've had so much sex. Yeah. Well, and this is like anyone who needs to know this
information, it's not their business. And they shouldn't want it. And this is like a red flag to me.
Like, what's the difference? What's the, yeah, it's like crazy. Like, I wish I could pull that
clip. I can't even remember what dumb ass fucking stupid podcast. I know. I get served that. I know. I get
served that one all the time. It's this one woman. Yes. Who's out here, like saying all this crazy stuff.
But that's just not true. I mean, I've slept with so many people. Like my.
connection with my partner now, it could not be more intimate.
Like, we've hit the top level.
She's just saying you become like numb to it.
Yeah, which is so false.
Like a crazier hit or something.
It's just, it's so false.
That's so weird.
What is this even based on?
Do you even believe that?
That's so weird to say.
But like body counts, I mean, why are we sharing this?
I don't ever want to know how to you and my partner slept with.
We've talked to this before years ago.
I just want to know it's enough people.
I want to know that it's enough.
Yeah.
That you feel like you have fucked enough.
You've done some kinky stuff.
wild things that like you've been out here in the world.
I'm not trying to be like the third or fourth person you've slept with.
I want to know it's not too.
Yeah.
But if it's closer to 100, I also don't care.
I don't care.
I would rather 100 than two.
But again, like I would know that we're saying this as women and I do know that some men feel
differently.
Absolutely.
I mean, it's just, that's not your person.
Like truly.
Like, I heard a guy recently in a podcast, not going to name me names and I certainly
didn't like it or agree with it, but that he really doesn't want to think about
someone that's like had a bunch of sex.
and so that guy probably wouldn't want to be with me because I've talked about having had sex with a lot of people.
So that's just not my person.
You know what I mean?
Like I think there is a world in which two people really would rather be with someone who was just not had a ton of partners.
It's not for me.
I certainly don't condone any sort of like slut shaming or judgment surrounding what you've done in your own personal sex life.
But if that's your prerogative, okay, you're just, you're not for me.
And there's so many guys out there that do not give a fuck.
and there's so many guys out there that want you to have gotten around and be fucking good and bad.
I'm just not discussing it at all.
Like, I can't even know.
No one's ever, like, come at me with this, but I know that so many people have been in those situations.
I guess the other person saying, like, what's the big deal?
Why can't you just tell me?
And it's like, because I don't know the number.
I lost count after 70.
I don't know what to.
Not 70.
69.
You went up to 69.
That's funny.
I stopped counting after 69.
That's a funny answer.
You're going to do that.
My answer is, what's the difference?
It's enough people.
Like, I do understand somebody being like,
I don't necessarily want to think about my partner,
having been with dozens and dozens of people.
And that's fair.
I don't need to open the discussion up.
I'm not telling my partner,
I've gotten banged out by tons of people either.
It's just like, how many people you have sex with?
Enough.
I've had sex with enough people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like, I can't stop thinking about it.
That's a you problem.
Right.
Get your head checked.
What is that my problem?
Can you imagine me just going to somebody?
I just can't stop thinking about you and your exes.
Have you tried?
Try it.
Try it.
It's nice.
Try to control your own thoughts.
I know it's like a real problem for people.
I've heard this story from other people that have like written in that like it has like
harmed their sex life with their current partner because they can't stop
quote quote thinking about them with other people.
It's like I don't know what to tell you.
That person has to go to therapy.
Like you're not going to convince them otherwise.
You've been done anything wrong by having other partners before you've made that person was alive.
I wouldn't love it if everywhere we went
they'd fucked everybody in the room
like when I'm in the lower east side of New York
when you're a spring lounge
I can't go in there
I did I knew a couple like that
and it was a real problem with one of the people
in the couple that's the other partner
I don't want to be too specific
but they came to me with it
and they were like they fucked everybody
and it's just always in my face
you guys have to move
Yeah. Like you have to move somewhere else. Like I do understand like smaller towns where someone just
like a Casanova man about town. You're like, my man's fucked everybody. Or a charlatan just like a
word. It is a charlatan. I heard it on Southern Charm this week. It's not a harlot.
That's another thing. Okay. Tazzo was a charlatan. All right. You know what someone wrote
blowjobs or for boyfriends is trash advice, took a shot at me. Took it from Ashley's mouth.
So that's fine if you think that. This was my personal mantra.
I didn't shame anyone for otherwise.
Oh, you think someone's trolling us by saying that.
Yeah, yeah. Someone was like, that's shitty advice, Ashley.
I know what they're saying.
They wrote a trash can emoji.
I mean, also, we are allowed to get new information and change our minds.
So here's the thing.
I don't really abide by that.
I guess we said that very early on the podcast.
But I don't feel that differently.
And it's just because I am putting my mouth on your penis.
It's kind of an intimate gesture.
And I just like to kind of.
to be in it with somebody. It's just, it was never about withholding it or weaponizing it.
So I just want to be clear, like, that's not how we roll. You know, it was just more like,
I personally don't put my dick in your mouth until we're in it. But I have, and I don't live my life.
The way you said it is if you had the dick, I don't personally put my dick in your mouth.
Did I really say that? It's so, Ashley's not going to fuck your face.
It's like you guys are together.
I don't put my dick in your mouth.
I was like, she seems so happy.
I don't know if I want to tell her.
Like that time you let me wear bad extensions with the whole episode.
Sometimes when I'm watching back that, it's like we get going so fast,
maybe we may be a little bit more than you.
You say the complete wrong thing.
Like, you know what I mean?
In Charlotton?
Yeah, I say it all.
Charlotton.
No, do whatever you want.
Suck a dick on the first night.
personally like it just wasn't it wasn't how I rolled you know why I was laughing because I told
you I won't put my dick in your mouth until I got a ring on this finger I think I was like you and
Tessa was I was I never blew him that the last person I was sleeping with I never blew him and you guys were
shocked like jaws on the floor and I was like he didn't inspire it in me like you know this wasn't
Tessa this was oh my guy your guy friend sorry no it was like so funny because what he said
afterwards like you were so funny you said a dead serious you go I just wasn't inspired and he goes
well, you're an artist.
Shout out to Brandon from Austin, actually.
He was in Austin.
He was on stage.
He is a special kind.
Let me tell you,
there is a special kind of guy
that can have a girlfriend
and talk to you about this type of thing
and not make it creepy.
There's no part of me that was like
he's hitting on one of us.
I was just like he would have this conversation
in front of his girlfriend.
That is like a special kind of guy.
And he brought her to the show.
We loved her.
He gave him on stage.
He gave us a few little dance moves.
He's the best.
I've known him for years.
But yeah, when he said,
well, you're an artist.
I lost it.
He didn't miss a beat.
He's quick.
But yes, you not feeling inspired to suck a dick was.
And I did not realize that until that moment.
And I was like, oh, you never liked that guy.
You didn't suck his dick, Raina.
Who are you?
I was inspired.
Frayna's like, I did not put my dick in his mouth.
It never even occurred to me for one second.
Like, it wasn't even a passing thought.
Like, maybe I should go down there.
It's unlike me.
It is.
I don't know I don't like you.
Okay. Well, should we end it there?
Yeah. On the bad advice that I gave years ago, do whatever you want.
Yeah. I think this was fun.
I think it was fun too. And we did get a few about faking orgasms. And as we kind of started to think about it, we want to do a whole episode on this and like why we do it, when we do it, how to stop doing it.
Or like, don't let yourself be shamed if you want to do it. You know, like, so we kind of want to do this whole faking orgasm episode. So if you submitted responses about faking orgasms, episodes.
is coming.
Coming and you will finish.
No, we're not going to fake.
Yeah, perfect.
Nailed it.
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