Girls Gotta Eat - The Most Iconic TV Couples (And Why They're Bullsh*t)
Episode Date: August 8, 2018If you're trying to find the Ross to your Rachel or the Jim to your Pam, WARNING: This episode might ruin your life. But you'll still get a laugh out of it! In true bonus episode fashion, we're taking... iconic TV show couples and ripping them apart. But to keep the romance alive, we also share who the REAL #RelationshipGoal of these shows should have been, and throw out some of our more under-the-radar faves from throughout the years. Spoiler alert: We have a very heated debate about one couple in particular. And we also share some exciting news about GGE and what's IN STORE (--> that's a hint). Enjoy! Follow Girls Gotta Eat on Instagram @GirlsGottaEatPodcast. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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And that's not what a healthy relationship is.
It's just like you only get off the plane when you think, like, they might marry another person.
Thank you.
Oh, my gosh.
You're so, so right.
Oh, my God.
I wish I would have thought of that.
Okay.
So excited.
Bonus episode.
It's a bonus episode.
Oh.
So excited.
I'm like, feel like I'm on drugs.
I've been excited about this all night.
I couldn't even sleep.
I'm okay.
You go on making a list.
I was like, for the topic, you go, no, fucking grocery list.
Yes, I'm making like that's so feisty with me.
We take bonus episodes so seriously.
I was up all night, like making notes and stuff.
Anyways, we got such a really fun response from the Sex and the City couple episode that we thought we would expand this topic.
Yes, the Fuck You Carry Bradshaw episode you guys are still talking about is still put in your stories.
I love that that could be how someone discovers us.
You know, like someone was like, tells their friend.
I loved this episode called Fuck You Carry Bradshaw.
That's their intro to us.
It's just us shitting all over the most famous couple of TV.
Well, surprise.
We're going to shit on some more couples today.
Get ready.
Get ready.
Yay!
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Hoof, okay.
I don't know.
It's a bonus episode.
I feel like this is like senioritis.
Like, I'll talk about stuff.
I don't want to talk about.
It's a bonus.
What are you guys going to do?
What are you going to go?
All right.
And we do have Raina's adorable intern, Leah in studio.
Hi, everyone.
If you hear a little extra laughter in the background, it's her.
She also, we're going to let you guys know soon.
It's a bonus episode.
Why not now?
We have a merchandise line coming out.
Oh.
Okay.
I'll tell you every day.
No, we haven't plugged it on an episode yet.
So Leah designed all of our merchandise.
She is a brilliant genius.
She just did everything I said.
Are you my dream?
Is this the two couple?
Anyways, we have a merchandise line coming out.
It's T-shirts, it's mugs, it's phone cases.
You guys can just go on your body with girls.
I know there's one specific hat.
I literally stared at every day.
Samples haven't come in yet.
I like check the mail every day.
Where's that fucking hat?
I need it.
So you guys can look for that.
Today we're going to get into, and I know you read the episode,
roundup, so you're not an idiot.
But we ranked our most famous couples in history on television.
And we're just going to...
Well, we just took the...
quote unquote iconic famous couples in television and we're going to shit all over them basically.
This isn't like a love fest.
This is like a hate fest.
A hate fest.
Well, it's really, it's going to be similar to Carrie and big.
So if you like that, strap in, bidsches.
All right.
We are going to kick off with the number one, probably most famous couple of all time on television.
Oh my God.
Deep breath, Ross and Rachel.
Okay.
So, a little about me.
I've seen as much friends as I have.
We're going to talk about Rachel and rock.
But about me.
But about me.
Okay, so a little bit about me.
I just like to let people know that there are a few shows that I have seen every episode
multiple times.
It's probably sex in the city.
Stay by the bell.
We'll get to that.
And friends.
So I'm, friends like soothes me.
I still watch the episodes.
Like, they're on every channel now.
Everything's syndicated.
So I'm a huge friends person.
I love friends.
especially living in New York.
I'm just a big fan.
I know it's kind of cheesy.
I know it has the laugh track.
It's like old school sitcom style,
but I still really love it.
I think they're all amazing actors and actresses.
Literally, Jennifer Anderson is some of the best comedic timing of all time.
I'm a huge fan.
Okay.
So you're a fan.
I'm a fan.
And I think that Ross and Rachel were the original will they, won't they couple.
Yes.
And Ross and Rachel, I mean, I think aside from Carrie and Big,
maybe even more are like the iconic quotes.
Like, we were on a bray.
Like all those things are so Ross and Rachel.
guess what guys?
Not a fan.
Hate them.
Hate them.
I have a lot to say.
I'll get through it.
I never.
I don't hate Ross and Rachel.
Like, I hate Carrie and big, though.
Because, like, Ross didn't shit all over Rachel in the same way.
I just never felt the chemistry there.
I never felt it.
I couldn't see the chemistry.
I understand the storyline that he was in love with her in high school and he was Monica's brother.
But, you know, I think high school crushes should stay in fucking high school.
Who'd you like in high school?
I think I like the blindbacker.
He's like six kids now from the football team.
Like, I liked a guy that worked at the pager kiosk in the mall.
Beat me, hit me back.
Wild paging.
Like, whatever.
Your high school gosh is you just say in high school.
And I just, I think the thing with them was that she was this girl that he could never get.
So she always thought she was out of his league.
She was pretty unpopular in high school.
He was the nerdy brother.
And so they played into that and he finally got her.
But I don't think that's a reason to ever be with somebody just because you always thought
that they were out of your league.
and I just never saw the chemistry with them.
I understand they were trying to pull off this whole opposite to track scenario.
I still didn't find it sexy.
I think Ross is this intellectual.
I'm not even hating on Ross.
I think Ross is great.
I think he's funny.
He's super intellectual.
He's a paleontologist.
Rachel's this kind of like ditsy fashion girl.
Like it was such a mismatch and it wasn't cute.
The chemistry wasn't cute.
I like I just,
I just wasn't a fan.
Yeah.
I don't remember ever watching this show and even today as an adult.
You evaluate shows very differently when you're, I don't know,
we were in high school when the show was on.
Right.
And so basically in your 30s, you obviously identified differently with the characters.
But yeah, at no age did I ever look at these two and think, like, this is an aspirational couple.
I see them together.
They had no interest in common whatsoever.
And it wasn't even like an opposites attract kind of thing.
Like, I couldn't see either one of those people being attracted to the other person.
And they didn't seem to be attracted to the other person.
There was no chemistry.
They fought so much.
In front of other people all the time.
Yes.
They were very communicators.
Very immature communication.
I think he was patronizing to her.
And I think for him,
Rachel was just the big get.
You know, Rachel was like on this pedestal
because he could never get her.
And I think Rachel only wanted Ross
when she thought she couldn't have him.
Like, it just wasn't, it didn't feel real to me.
I just, like, didn't, I didn't like any of it.
And I will say my number one thing,
and then I'm going to say something really controversial.
My number one thing was Ross didn't even make her laugh.
She didn't think Ross is funny.
I think Ross is funny.
Like, every character is very funny on that show.
Their sense of humor is like, didn't match up.
Well, he's like this dopey, intellectual guy, and she's like this, like, ditsy, high energy kind of girl.
And, like, that doesn't mean that that can't mesh, but they didn't mesh.
They didn't mesh.
Do you want to hear what I have to say?
I'm ready.
Hit me.
Rachel and Joey.
Way better match.
Huge.
I don't think that that's controversial at all.
I know.
Rachel and Joey, he made her laugh.
Joey, yes.
And easy and fun.
I bet you they had good sex together.
Yes.
Joey is the one that made her laugh.
Joey is the one she lived with comfortably.
Like, they had such a better chemistry, and they were such a better fit to me.
And this is not anything to do with, like, Ross's, he's smart and Rachel's ditsy, like, whatever.
That can be super cute and work, too.
The chemistry wasn't there.
Her and Joey had it.
I remember her and Joey went on that date?
I could cry.
That was the match.
I also think, and I'm going to say something, not controversial, but everybody's going to be like, yeah, of course.
These two characters only wanted to be with each other when they were with other people.
Thank you.
That's what I'm saying.
There was only these, like, earthshunds.
shattering moves to, like, be with the other person when, like, the other person found someone.
That's not what a healthy relationship is.
It's just, like, you only get off the plane when you think, like, they might marry another
person.
Thank you.
Oh, my gosh.
You're so, so right.
And I, the more I think about it, again, not carry big.
I'm not going to, like, punch myself in the face over.
They weren't horrible.
They were horrible people.
No, it just, I just can't believe that that was the storyline of the whole thing because I just
couldn't ever feel the chemistry.
And I would have loved, like,
I know they had to end up together.
Well, I don't know.
They kind of didn't.
That's weird.
They had the kid.
That was weird too.
Like, I can't, I can't picture Rachel and Joey fucking.
I can't picture Ross and Rachel.
I would watch that today.
What's to fuck Ross?
But like, I liked Ross with Charlie.
The, um, what is her name?
She's like, she used to be on E.
She's a beautiful, tall black woman that he dated and she was this intellectual type.
It laughed at his nerdy jokes.
Emily, boring.
Emily, great for him.
Great for him.
Yeah.
Even a lesbian for you, Emily.
She was great.
I just can't.
I think that when I compare the two, Rachel and Joey and Rachel and Ross, I think Ross just liked the idea of Rachel.
And he liked the thought of who he thought it meant he was if he could land a chick like that.
And I think somebody like Joey just actually appreciated for who she was.
They were the friends first.
And I don't know.
I never really got down with that.
And like just the sheer amount of conflict they had.
It's not supposed to be that hard.
So this is a relationship to me that is created to appeal to like a 13 year old girl.
Like there was.
push and pull.
Yeah, this like, will they, won't they?
Like, all the things that, like, you're, you look, they, they fought constantly in public.
They only wanted to make decisions about being with the other person when threatened
with the loss of the other person.
Right.
These are, like, these things that you think when you're super young, like, maybe like this drama,
you misinterpret it for, like, love and excitement and passion and spark.
That's not it.
Right.
Like, getting on the plane, the whole thing, like, running down the runway.
Like, it's not real life.
Right.
But I see what you mean.
So, yeah, I don't really have much else to say.
but that is the iconic couple, and I just was like, zero chemistry.
I wasn't feeling it.
Monica and Chandler?
Amazing, perfect, suited for each other.
Relationship goals.
Best couple in the show, don't at me.
One of the best couples of all time.
The older I get, the more I appreciate them.
Because they're just silly and light and easy and they appreciate each other.
And then they slept together at their brother's wedding.
Maybe that's my.
What can happen to me?
Which one of your brother's friends are you going to sleep with?
Just so I make sure I don't sleep with him too.
Which two of each lifeguard.
No, they make me so happy.
And I really, like, I don't think I used to get so boned up for Monica and Chandler back in the day.
But, like, now I do more.
Like, I'm just like, that's a real adult relationship.
No drama.
Make each other laugh.
I remember she proposed?
I can't cry every time.
When she has the turkey on her head and he tells her he loves her?
Yes.
Oh, my God, yes.
I like still cut out.
Monica's storyline is, I love it just in general, with Richard.
and I just, I love everything.
I love Monica's, all of her, all of her stuff.
She was like, she was definitely my favorite character.
But again, I'm not trying to hate on Jennifer Aniston.
I literally think she was so brilliant on that show.
That just to me, Monica Chandler was a relationship that was created to appeal to adults.
Right.
You're so casual and easy and they get along.
And like Ross Rachel is like, how can we like hook people in for, how many seasons was there?
I should have Googled it.
I don't know.
But however many seasons, like that was the main number one storyline.
You're right.
It's like Carrie and Big.
How can we keep this going?
for so many seasons.
You can't keep it going for seasons if people get along
and you have to create this like false sense of drama.
10 seasons. Just looked it up.
10 seasons.
If you can't figure out how to be with a dude after 10 years,
abort the mission.
But I do. I really appreciate what you said.
And that's why they do it.
These aren't real people.
This TV.
And that's how you have to make a relationship.
It wouldn't be what it was if it was easy on friends.
But we're still allowed to do a bonus episode and shit all over it.
Are you okay?
Are you going to be able to talk about this next?
one? I don't know. I don't know if it would be okay. So you're super passionate about them,
and obviously my favorite couple to discuss is the other ultimate will they won't they couple,
Jim and Pam. Jim and Pam. Okay. I am not, while you pull up your stuff, I'll bring it back to me.
I love the office, obviously. I am not like at the point of I can speak on it as well,
like, as you are going to be able to. I haven't seen. I don't. I don't. I don't. I,
I don't, I wouldn't say I'd seen every episode.
I definitely haven't seen every episode multiple times like I have with friends, but,
um,
absolutely love it.
But I'm kind of going to just listen to you on this because I don't, I feel like I don't
have the knowledge.
I love Jim, John Krasinski just in general is just my favorite.
And I don't really, I don't have, I don't, I don't think, I don't think I have a
problem with them now, but I'm sure I will have your justification.
So go for it.
Looking forward to ruining this show for you.
Um, I love.
liked Friends. The Office is one of my favorite show, like top five favorite shows of all time.
It's very different. Friends is just, again, it's just nostalgia, feel good. It's not challenging
in any way. The office is like, the office is unparalleled, the humor. Yes.
It's next. I mean, it just is. It transcends time to me. Like, that show will be funny in 20 years.
Oh my God. And like just the way it was shot. I mean, clearly it's, it's not, I mean,
Friends is old school laugh track. Office has all the angles. Like, I love that meme that's like,
I want my wedding to be shot like an episode of The Office with like the eye contact and the side
bars.
I cried during the office wedding.
The one.
Niagara Falls.
No, I can't not cry.
It also was the original, like, faux documentary style.
Exactly.
That's what I'm trying to say.
So unique.
Okay.
So I'm going to start by saying up top, of course you root for Jim and Pam.
You're supposed to root for Jim and Pam.
Okay.
They're like, sweet, well, they won't they?
Like, they just love each other so much clearly.
Like, you're supposed to, blah, blah.
They're exactly like what you're supposed to want, this like hopeless romantic and then they end up
together.
Okay.
I want to talk about what happens.
real life with Jim and Pam.
When we get to another couple, I'm going to talk about what would happen in real life now.
It's like, you're going to die.
Keep going to go.
To me, like, for you guys who haven't, like, I don't know, living in a molehole for your
entire life, Jim and Pam, she's a secretary.
He's like a sales rep at this paper company.
She's engaged to somebody and he is hopelessly in love with her.
She's very meek and boring.
Like, I don't love the character to begin with.
I just, I find her like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, that's fair.
Peak Jim and Pam to me is season two
where they're like, she's like gonna marry Roy.
She is engaged to somebody else.
And Jim's like so in love with her and he tells her he's in love with her.
Okay, let me tell you what happens in real life to cool, fun, hip Jim and like meek, boring.
I don't need to do with my like, Pam.
Pam marries Roy in real life.
Pam is not spontaneous or exciting.
Pam marries the dude that she was dating when she was 15 because that is what that is what Pam does.
Right.
And Jim whizes up and moves to a cool city outside of Scranton.
and dates Karen and marries Karen.
Because Karen is a badass boss, okay?
She's educated and dynamic.
And look, that doesn't mean that, like, you can't marry a secretary.
Marry fucking secretary.
Right.
But, like, I think he finds this woman that is so interesting and, like, steadfast and, like, knows what she wants and he's confident.
And he abandons her in New York City and drives back to, like, be with...
Scrant.
Get the fuck.
Yeah.
Biden was born there.
We love Scranton.
I digress.
And then people are like, so they get together.
And it's like after that, like the relationship interests like quickly declines.
It's like, I don't know, they're just like married now.
Nothing interesting happens ever again, which I guess is sort of real life.
Well, wasn't that just the office in general?
Like the last season was just, they just got different writers.
And it was just like, it wasn't as good, right?
It just declined in general.
I didn't mind the last season.
Steve Corral's not on the last season.
Right, right, right.
But Jim and Pam, he like pines for her.
Pam does not call off her wedding to Roy to be with fucking Jim.
No, that doesn't happen.
And I just, you know, they like played on this for a couple years and then they finally get together and it's like this quick decline in like interest for each other.
Pam is an affair with the same, almost has an affair with like the boom mic guy.
And then she's pregnant.
Right.
And then Jim also, let me tell you about what happens once they get married because Jim does some things that are immediate grounds for termination of the relationship.
Jim buys a house without her permission.
Right.
married. Oh, oh, my husband's just going to go purchase a home on my behalf without discussing
it with me. Y'all have divorced you for something like that. I mean, okay, you could buy me a big house.
I wouldn't. Wait, and really quick, just, so it, I think it off of six seasons, I think total.
Was it, did Jim and Pimp get married at the end of the second to last season? There was one more season where they were married.
No, there's multiple seasons where they're married. There are. Okay. They have kids. They have two kids.
They have a kid for one of the seasons. They have a second kid in the next season. I think I just like ended. I think I just stopped watching after the wedding.
Yeah, because it's not interesting anymore.
Like, he immediately, like, the writers were like, well, this storyline's over.
Let's make them super boring.
Right.
He buys a house without her permission, which, I mean, I can't.
Like, if somebody wants to buy me a house, I guess they could.
That's fine.
Everyone's fine.
And then he, like, I don't know, gets a job and fucks off to Philadelphia and just, like,
lives there without her.
And she's just, like, in Scranton, just secretaring away.
And he's, like, going to go shack up with Daryl in Philadelphia.
You think it sounds depressing.
Like, not, none of this is, like, people, like, think that they're so.
aspirational. And like, there's a couple moments in the last couple seasons where like,
he almost loses her and then does this like big grand gesture. And people are like,
he's so sweet. He shouldn't have done any of those things. Right. Like, it's crazy.
I guess I didn't realize like the last few seasons in the office were just like marital problems.
Like who fucking cares? Well, okay. She almost has an affair with the boom mic guy who is very cute.
I would have sex with him too. Got a love a guy with the boom mic. So people think they're
aspirational what? Because they're sense of humor together.
Right? Isn't that what people, I mean, that they're funny together?
I think the message is just like, you know, even though she's comfortable and has this thing that she knows will never go away, which is her high school boyfriend, even though he's found this girl that ideally is somebody who, like, makes money and successful, that, like, they have this, like, friendship and this bond.
And they're meant to be together because that's what you should want in a relationship.
It's like a shared humor with somebody.
Right.
But I don't know.
I find her, like, whiny and dowdy, and he keeps talking about how she's the greatest thing that ever happened on the planet.
She doesn't do anything.
What does she do?
She draws, like, pictures of buildings with pencils?
What did Pam do?
What the fuck did Pam ever do?
Like, what the fuck is Pam ever done?
I'm with you.
I just, to me, the relationship is so unrealistic.
They didn't even do a good job in the writing room the way they did with friends,
10 seasons, like the wheel they won't.
They did.
Right.
And then it's like, yeah, you're right.
And yeah, like we keep saying, there's a reason why they have to do this.
They have to keep it going.
But the real unsum, sorry, I'll let you finish your thought.
And then I'll, I'm done.
done. You want to move on to your favorite couple.
No, I don't. I want to interject that very similar to friends.
The secondary couple in the office is one of my favorite couples of all time, Dwight and Angela.
Right.
Meant to be together.
Yes.
They're so weird. Both them is like the weirdest person that has ever lived.
Such a good match.
They just, they're so cute.
They love each other.
Who the fuck else is going to sleep with Angela besides somebody as weird as Dwight?
That's it.
And who else would like really get it up for Dwight?
besides somebody is weird and uptight.
Wasn't it like when they were getting married,
like Dwight was like,
he was like getting all the action.
Yeah.
He was sexy that one episode, right?
You got,
you want Dwight?
I don't.
We've already talked about fucking Dwight on the show once.
Don't make me totally.
You would be a beat farmer fetish.
No,
you're so right about Dwight and Angela.
Yeah.
There's Monica and Chandler.
Secondary, most aspirational couple.
I just think that like,
I don't know, in real life,
this couple would never work out.
don't find them aspirational. Fine, find your best friend, marry them, whatever. I don't know.
It's just, to me, it's just like, I lost interest after a couple seasons. Yeah, I hear that.
It's, I mean, I think I, that is kind of why I just kind of, I just kind of stopped at the wedding.
I was like, that was such a perfect episode. I remember the thing went viral with the Chris Brown song
and all that stuff. And I was like, oh, I'm good now. It's just this idea. I didn't see them
married life. It's just this idea in writing that, like, there has to be this, like,
endless conflict to create this aspirational relationship. And it's like, these two aren't meant for
each other. Rachel and Ross were not meant for each other. Right. If we want to segue into my next one,
there always has to be a wedding. They always have to get married. It's so stupid. Baby weddings?
Underage weddings. Everybody drops out of college at the age of 19 and gets married at 20 to the
person they were dating at 14. Every show, every series, it doesn't have to end with a wedding.
Zach and Kelly. You don't have to marry a Topanga. Chuck and Blair. You don't have to marry the person
you were dating when you were 15. Can you imagine? Can you imagine?
Imagine. Yeah. Well, that's, I'll give props to friends that they didn't do that. They didn't, Monica and Chandler got, were the wedding. Yeah, but they want to see a wedding. But Ross and Rachel didn't. I like that. I like that they did that. They didn't have the main couple get married at the end. I don't know that I love the, like, assertation that like marriage is the end of it. This is what you strive for. They attained it. We can end the show now. Do you want to talk about Zach and Kelly?
Oh, okay, guys. Okay.
Morris is my first love. Mine too. Like obsessed. Like posters everywhere. I have books on Mark
Paul Gossler. Like just, and also I just am very tied to the show in general is my favorite
show growing up. And my brother and I just like didn't really get along when we were kids,
but that's when we would get along. We watched Say by the Bell together. So which of the girls
did Matt like? Kelly Kapowski. Really? Of course, Matt's like a football guy. Of course he likes
the head cheerleader. But I mean, and I can appreciate guys that Kelly Kapowski being guys first
crush, like Zach Morris was mine. And before I get into it, I just want to tell everybody that I did
meet him years later. I interviewed him, I think, in 2010. Did he have black hair then?
It was right, he had darker hair. It was right before Franklin and Bash. Do you remember that show?
He's like a lawyer, whatever. Was it on like the CW? Something like that. Yeah. Hit him and Breck and Meyer.
But to meet that, to meet that person, like, it was fine. But like, that's one of those things, like, you should never meet your idols because they like cannot possibly live up to it. But I did. I got to meet my long childhood crush.
Zach and Kelly. All right. I'm fine with it. I'm fine with Kelly. It's fine. You seem fine.
I appreciated that she was like a hot brunette. She was like a sex symbol back then. It was like all about blondes before the Kardashians came along. So I like that she was like brown hair, brown eyes like me as a kid. I was like I can relate to this kind of. I like that they were high school sweethearts. I like that they were cute together. But like you don't marry your high school sweetheart. Did you like that he was a total sociopath?
Oh, Ash is getting mad.
What?
Zach Morris was not a sociopath.
He was a prankster, and he was like super smart.
He was bored in high school because he was so...
Remember he got a perfect score in his SATs?
That's why he was such a prankster.
Also a terrible message just said to children.
You know, just fuck off for all four years of high school.
He knew...
Listen, I learned a lot from Zach Morris.
I knew.
I knew how to get what I wanted.
Zach got what he wanted.
He like...
by trickery and thievery.
Not...
What did he steal?
He was just...
He was just a prankster in high school.
Kelly's heart.
I'm not going to say he's a sociopath.
I'm not saying it.
I want to drop it.
Okay?
But let me just tell you this.
I want to say this to you.
Again, it's so fucking dumb that they had to have him get married.
Whatever.
I mean, it's dumb.
Tell me, do you agree with this?
Kelly Kapowski has such teen mom vibes.
Like, Kelly Kapowski.
You think, like, Slater should have knocked up Kelly?
She should have had like a 16 year old kid.
And they should have just like lived in like a trailer park.
Yeah.
Like in real life, Zach Morris goes on to fucking start Facebook.
You know what I mean?
Like he goes on to just like be some sort of like crazy genius.
And Kelly Kapowski has like three kids at 22.
You know she does.
I feel the exact opposite.
I could not feel more opposite.
In real life, this like good looking prankster.
I'm never going to go to class kid.
He works at the gas station.
Those guys, they're like the founder of him.
Those guys that like always jack off.
The founder of Hinge and the founder of Facebook both went to Harvard Business School.
Zach went to Stanford.
A fictionalized person went to Stanford.
All he did was fuck off all of high school.
He is, Zach Morris is the person that starts Facebook.
It's this guy that like always was like.
He's the Winklevast twins?
Yes.
It was like always fucking around but so brilliant goes to some Ivy League school and doesn't
care about going to class.
He's like, I'm going to start the next big thing.
I know I'm right.
Zach Morris was not like a smart kid.
He got six, 1500s
SATs. He got into Stanford.
Kelly, Jesse didn't.
How did he do that?
Because he's so smart.
He didn't cheat on his SAT.
What a horrible message to send to people.
No, it's not.
The message was like kids that like fuck around and do these things in high school.
It's because they're bored because they're not challenge enough,
but they're brilliant on the inside.
And those are the kids that go on to start crazy shit like Facebook.
I think you're overestimating Zach Morris who hid in Mr.
Belding, Mr. Bellings file cabinet to, like, spy on him.
He carved out something in the wall.
He's a brilliant.
He's a brilliant genius.
And Kelly Kapowski is the fucking teen mom.
I disagree with you.
Kelly Kapowski grows up to be nothing, but she doesn't grow up to have kids in 16.
She just marries like a really, she marries a Winklevoss twin.
She marries like a super.
How can he be so disagreement on this?
This is our first fight.
She marries somebody that doesn't care anything about, like, her intellect because she,
which is Kelly Kapalty's smart.
No.
Okay.
She was sweet.
She was nice.
Kelly Kapowski is a Dallas trophy wife.
I just, Kelly Kapowski's vibe to me was she just seemed like someone that was like barefoot and pregnant.
It used to be the head cheerleader.
Kelly Kapowski peaked in high school.
Totally.
Zach Morris went on to star Facebook.
I think that Kelly like does nails and she's married.
Okay.
We can wrap this up.
Do you want me to tell you my number one person for Zach that I liked?
Lisa.
No.
like aside from Lisa and Jesse.
Zach needs to be with Lisa,
because Lisa could put Zach in place.
Lisa can, but I liked Zach and Lisa, of course.
I love that storyline.
I was a glued to the TV,
but I'll tell you who I like that he dated the most.
Gene Jacket?
Tori.
Fuck off, Rada.
This podcast is over.
Tori.
You can fuck yourself.
Ashley's never had more feelings about anything than Zach Morris.
The number one person for Zach was Stacey
motherfucking Carossi from.
the Malibu Beach Club, Leah Romini.
She busted Zach's balls.
She tried to fight it.
She's like, I'm not going to date this fucking blonde surfer dude.
And then they dated and they fell in love.
And he softened her like black heart.
And like she challenged him, Zach and Stacy.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
He needs somebody like that.
Mr. Croce.
I was texting Ashley about this last night.
And she was like, you better stop this right now.
You better stop.
I was like Zach.
The whole show called Zach Morris's trash.
You guys should check it.
out. It's 10 minute episodes.
I can't believe you're doing this right now.
I can't believe you're doing. Okay. You know what? Let's move on to Chuck and Blair. I'm
going to shit all over them. That's fine. How they are unshittingable. But also just to wrap it up,
like, again, it's so dumb that like, I can't think of any more. I guess Chuck and Blair,
but Corey Topanga, Zach and Kelly always had to end with some dumb weddings. Like we don't
just, we don't need it. We don't need it. Like, we don't need the wedding of two 20-year-olds.
I know that you also, I know that you're not a Harry Potter fan, but all of them got
married in the end, too. They took a book about, like, toddlers, and they're like, you know how we
wrap this toddler book up? All of them get married. Everybody in that book got married to each
other. It's crazy. Why is everything to be a toddler? Okay, so let's segue on to another couple that
had a toddler wedding. It makes even less sense than anything else. Okay, Chuck and Blair are my favorite
couple of all time. Right. And I, Gossip Girl, if you guys haven't watched it, I don't know.
You haven't watched it. I don't know what you're doing. I want to, I would like to start it again,
like now. Oh, you want to rewatch it? Have you watched it recently?
I watched it for the first time ever, like four years ago.
Okay, so you're obsessed with Chuck and Blair.
They were their perfect match.
Yeah.
I mean, they're like the unsung hero couple to me.
Like, nobody looks at them and things like, maybe they do, but like they're also both
complete sociopaths.
Like, Zach was not really a sociopath.
They could be like a diagnosed case of sociopaths.
Right.
But they both are.
So that's what works, right?
Yeah, they're great together.
Look, they're both kind of insane.
They do weird sex stuff together.
And like, they like it.
She likes to, like, bait other girls into hitting on him and then, like, freak out, and then fuck him.
Oof.
I was a little against the topic.
The topic is supposed to be, like, shitting on people, but Raina apparently wants to be Chuck and Blair.
I mean, I sat next to Chuck Bass once at a restaurant.
This isn't important.
It doesn't matter.
Anyways, I, the thing that they did really well in that show is they, I don't know, well.
They weren't storylines for children that were really adult storylines.
Oh, geez.
It's crazy.
The show, I mean.
Like, most shows, obviously, the camera.
Characters were cast.
These characters were in their 20s.
They're late 20s.
In the show, so it's believable.
You see all these character storylines that are like,
storylines written for adults, but there's no parents present ever.
So you forget that they're like kids.
Yeah.
And that they all drop out of college by the age of 19.
Blair Mary's Chuck at the age of 20.
Jesus.
And the most beautiful Alliah Gown of everything.
No, it doesn't matter.
You know, my favorite season of that show was when all three of the people that should
have been together were together.
I think it was like the third season.
Right.
Okay, so Serena and Dan?
So Serena is dating, dumb Nate, because they're just so vapid and empty.
The two of them are so stupid.
They're so beautiful.
Like, I would watch them fuck.
Yeah, okay, Serena Nate, I forgot.
And then Dan is with Vanessa because they're both like super nerd balls.
They take Vanessa who is in a smoke show.
You know she dated A-Rod.
Oh, she is in real life.
She's like, I just didn't care for around the show.
Oh, I hated her on the show.
They were like, how can we find this like Brooklyn girl?
We're painting her hair purple and put orange pom-poms in it.
So they ended up together.
And then Chuck and Blair.
It was like the best two episodes of all seven seasons.
It's just like dumb Serena and dumb Nate.
Oh, Nate was so stupid.
I loved him.
He is so beautiful, though.
I was a big fan of Dan.
I liked Serena and Dan.
Do you remember when Blair dated Dan?
Did you get that far?
I've watched every episode of Gossip Girl.
It's been a while.
Worst couple in history.
Okay.
So that ties in.
They are clearly not iconic or famous, but worst couple are,
yeah, Blair and Dan.
You blocked it out, right?
I blocked it out.
Yeah, because it was like a whole season.
Dan was so in love with her.
Blair and Dan.
It's so uncomfortable.
It makes your whole body uncomfortable.
Ew.
Why would they even?
They have that weird salon party at dance places.
They like bond over like literature and like books and like I say it.
Like it's like so ridiculous.
But like Blair's not an intellectual.
What can we fucking break?
Blair wants to watch Chuck fuck other girls and then like masturbate in the other room
while she watches.
Blair is a freak.
Yeah, for sure.
Blair is not dating damn.
Anyways, shout out to Blair and Chuck.
You're my favorite couple of all time.
All right.
Do you want to just do one more?
This one's a little bit more under the radar.
Okay.
Angela Chase and Jordan Catalano.
Oh, shit.
Jared Leto.
And Claire Dane's like that.
It's crazy to think about this.
So I love this.
I used to have the whole series on DVD.
My So-Called Life was such one of my favorite shows of all time.
but isn't it crazy to think like about these so famous people like they were just nobody's then?
Who was who was Claire Daines?
Like who's Jaredo?
Right.
The two of them are so famous today.
So famous now.
I was really, really young when the show was on.
So I don't know that I like really even understood the concept.
It was pretty high concept.
They had like a trans person.
They did a lot for basic cable.
By so-called life was really revolutionary and what they did.
I mean, they were the first ones to nail this teen angst thing.
and then Ray Ann and she had the dysfunctional family and the mom with the drugs and then Ricky.
I mean, it was, they covered so much ground.
I'm like, I think they were such a revolutionary show.
Yeah, and I think that early, in the 90s, there weren't all these like, every show was aspirational.
You saw these couples that were like so beautiful and wonderful.
Like, this show was like high school teen X X.
Yeah.
Let's talk about.
Let's talk about Jordan Catalona.
She pined for him.
He is so hard.
But like, let's just.
be clear. Jared let her never
look better than that fucking show. He was
so beautiful. I don't know how old he was
at the time, 15. I don't fucking know.
He was beautiful.
You love young guys so much.
But so stupid.
Okay.
Listen, before we drop this,
I just want to let you guys know. The whole
storyline was like, you know,
she like wants him so
badly and she's like insecure and thinks
he doesn't like her. And he's like this like
angry, brooding guy. She thinks he's like all deep and introspective. What's the reality of this?
He's not brooding. He's trying to remember how to form a sentence. But yes, that was the thing. The thing is like, here's this girl who is intelligent and curious. She has a family that loves her a lot. And I get it. You're going through a lot of changes when you're going into your teenage years in high school and whatnot. But like, of course she has a crush on just the most beautiful person she's ever seen. That's a fucking idiot.
She would think he was like all pensive.
And like, remember when she was like, he wouldn't have the find the words.
He doesn't know words.
He doesn't know words.
That's why he can't.
He's not speaking because he doesn't know.
He doesn't have words.
He doesn't have vocabulary.
Okay.
So.
But 1010 would fuck him in a stairwell.
Every stairwell.
And the janitor's closet.
Throw out to wrap up some other couples, great couples in TV history that you really liked.
Oh.
Who are some great iconic couples that you love?
Oh, you're like putting me on the spot.
I mean, um.
Samantha Smith, Miranda and Steve, Charlott and Harry.
Everybody.
We already talked about them.
I'm just going to say it.
My favorite TV couple of all time is Carmela and Tony Soprano.
Okay.
Also, perfectly suited for each other.
I don't care.
Like, say what you will about them as, like, people, perfectly suited marriage for the other person.
Okay.
She let him just, like, live and do his thing, and he was allowed to just run free.
And she was fine with it.
She was totally fine.
I mean, yeah, they got a divorce for, like, a little bit.
But then they got back together.
Yeah.
She tried to date somebody else.
couldn't do it. They're a great TV couple. All right. Do you want to hear my favorite one?
Yeah.
Uncle Jesse and Aunt Becky.
No couple that lives in an addict is my favorite.
No, I love Uncle Jesse and Aunt Becky so much. And like I do... Get your own house.
They're trying to help raise the family. Yeah, but like they have their own family. Like, get your own home.
Maybe Nick and Alex like it up there. I just loved. Did you have a crush on John Stamos? Obviously, we all did, right?
I'm a human. I breathe.
There.
Okay.
And so I love John Sammo so much.
Like, he was probably the first guy that gave me like a little like twinge down there.
He was so hot.
I mean, I'm not trying to cheat on Zach, but, you know.
But I just felt like Becky, Aunt Becky was a solid match room.
I thought she was good enough for him.
I think that they were well matched.
They were very well suited for each other.
Again, none of these couples that were actually well suited for each other will ever make
a list of like greatest couples in history because wasn't enough angst.
You don't think Aunt Aunt Jessie and Becky would be on a greatest couple list?
I think maybe why does your research.
Oh, let's talk about this.
This is another show I want to rewatch as Dawson's Creek.
I just think Dawson and Joey were like just such pussies, like both of them.
But like I remember Pacey and Joey feeling like hot about that one.
Just because of him mainly.
He's so hot.
He kind of brought her out of her shell.
I think other like iconic television shows?
We have it.
Gray's Anatomy.
Right.
I just don't know.
I had to have.
I'm not a huge gray's person.
But I think I feel okay about Meredith and Derek.
But he died, right?
That was like a crazy thing.
Never seen it?
Meredith Gray and Derek are like on all these litemot.
T of a icon.
You want to throw it in?
No, I just don't.
I don't know enough.
I didn't watch the show to that extent.
But I feel like they were, they were solid.
And you know what I liked?
That didn't have to end with a marriage.
It ended with a death.
Mix it up.
Which essentially is the same thing anyway.
I think I did.
I remember that episode being,
people were like losing their minds when you died.
I like, you're like, I have nothing to contribute to them.
I never saw the show.
My mom watched it till the bitter end.
I was like, mom.
Jeez.
Love your mom.
The last couple that we forgot to talk about, which is, I don't know how we forgot to bring this up.
9-2-0.
Wasn't I ought to watch it.
I would watch in my basement with the sound on like three.
My mom went, let me watch it.
Yeah, I was all to watch it.
The original love triangle, Luke Perry with Brenda and Kelly.
Yeah, but so who did he end up with?
Well, it's like this amazing metaphor for how things always go.
Brenda, the sort of like nerdy, really smart, pretty, but like, also like very studious.
He cheats on her all the time with like more fun, lose, cool Kelly.
And he like can't ever pick because like they're just like opposite ends of the spectrum.
I think he ultimately ends up with Kelly.
But Nana Chuan O like really was like one of the first shows I ever watched.
And like, yeah, they were the original love triangle.
Right.
Threesome goals.
That would be a hot threesome.
Brenda Kelly and add them to the list of people that I would watch have sex.
On that note.
Claire, I said Claire.
I meant Chuck and Blair.
Anyways, that's all I've just said.
Yeah.
Well, I'm exhausted now.
Like, whenever we get really riled up about a topic of like, we got to call it.
Yeah.
We should on all the famous couples.
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