Girls Gotta Eat - The Shepisode with Shep Rose of Bravo's Southern Charm

Episode Date: June 18, 2018

HEY Y'ALL! Gather 'round and listen to this here episode with Shep Rose of Bravo's Southern Charm! While he was in town filming the reunion, we got him to sit down for some drinks and a chat about his love life, current crushes (and whose DMs he's sliding into), our burning questions about the show (*cough* Kathryn), and a whole range of other topics from text banter to Botox to mugshots to milkshakes (you'll see). And by request, Ashley gives a final update on the 24-year-old. Enjoy, y'all! Follow Girls Gotta Eat on Instagram at @GirlsGottaEatPodcast. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Do you want to make one of us a notch on that bedpost? I'm just kidding. Oh my God. That's on you, girl. Ashley and I've never had a threesome. I'm just kidding. Is this happening? Shut the fuck up.

Back to another episode of Girls' Gotta You podcast. Hello. Oh, that was due for me. I'm usually like, hi guys. We are here at Mouth Media, powered by Senheiser. We are going to keep this intro very short. We have a guest we are super excited about. I'm a super fan.

Rana is super excited. Hi. And, but a couple things, we wouldn't do a few, I wouldn't give you guys a little bit of closure on some topics. Before we do that, I just want to give you guys some homework. Make sure that you tell every friend that is live in your life about Girls Got to Eat Podcast. Keep putting us in your stories. We love that and appreciate that.

Please keep rating the show. You look like you're holding back breath. No, I mean, if we've had a bit of wine and you just like, please keep it together right now. Hasse whine. She starts slurring. Let's get into it. Haas, you're so good at these ads. I know, God.

I'm crushing the ads, guys. I'm so proud of you. Oh, thanks. Thanks, Del. You're all on. Okay. So we want to do, like, a little update on our life because we've been getting some emails and some messages. So, Ash, some people want to know.

What is going on? The world wants to know. With the 24-year-old. With the 24-year-old. Okay, guys, we've been talking about him since episode two. And I thought we wrapped it up. I thought we wrapped it up. I thought when I told you guys.

that I got drunk and burned it to the ground. I thought you knew that what I met was that I got drunk and burned it to the ground. When you burned something to the ground, there's no coming back to life. So I guess you thought I was just being funny. I wasn't. Yeah, we mentioned that in a few episodes ago. I, for you guys, have been following along. I was seeing this very attractive, very sexual, 24-year-old for a couple months.

And it was really fun. I think I always knew. I don't think. I always knew it was just going to be a fling. Great chemistry, but just didn't connect on like nothing to do with his age or anything else, just didn't connect with him in a way that I would want somebody to date. So I think I came to the realization that it had been two months, still enjoyed having sex with the guy, but didn't really want to just go to dinner with him. So you don't have that up for two months. You're probably not going to get there. So I'm not really proud of it, but like I did go out with him one night and did just get really drunk.

and kind of say, like, I'm not feeling this like that. And, you know, I'm not, again, like, not proud of getting super drunk and kind of telling someone how you feel about them. That's not the most mature thing to do. But apologize to him the next day. We're super cool. If I ran into him on the street, we would be totally cool. Like, I could have a beer with a guy.

No big deal. So, but yeah, it ended totally animically. But the whole thing there was just like, yeah, this, I think if you listen to when I first talked about the guy, I said this is a fling. and that's exactly what it was, and the 60 days were up, and I was like, on to the next. I want you guys to be able to sleep well at night. People, like, people had conspiracy theories. Like, I posted a video with my dog, and this guy DM'd me, and he was like,

girls got to eat conspiracy theory. Your dog is actually the 24-year-old dressed up in a dog costume. I'm like, that is so weird. I thought it was funny. You didn't think it was funny. I didn't actually think it was funny. I just thought it was funny people, like have conspiracy theories about what happened to him, like I murdered him or something.

Dewey is a Nigerian black man. Yeah, great. Okay. Raina, what's the latest with you? I'm waiting for Denver tomorrow morning. Denver. I actually have never been to that part of the world. Have you been to Denver?

No, I have just flown into Denver to ski, go to Vail, Breckenridge. I have two girlfriends that just moved there. And I'm thinking of booking a flight and just going. Like, I'm not a big skier, so like I'm down with Denver. I know. That's what I'm saying. I want to go in the off season. Because I don't want to feel like I'm supposed to be.

to ski. Like, I would like to go to Denver, but you know, I mean, they call it Menver. I travel a lot, and it is the last city in the United States that I have never been to that I really really want to go to. Wait, are you going to Aspen or Denver? I'm going to both. So I'm going to Denver tomorrow, and then I'm going to Aspen. It is the Aspen Food and Wine Classic. I'm a food blogger. If you guys aren't following, it's One Hungry Jew. That is 100 Jew on Instagram, following me. Everybody's following. Anyways, it is, it is the bougie. of the Bouged fest.

I'm so jealous. So we're going to Denver for a day. When I say we, actually it's a former guest that we had on the show. His name is Jeremy. He does brunch boys. So we're going to Denver and then we're going to Aspen. I'm super excited. And then my birthday is on June 17th.

I know that the show will have come out on Monday. So like tactically, yesterday was my birthday. My birthday girl? But I'm having a birthday party next week. I'm super excited. I'm super excited too. I hope you had the best time. I'm just, I'm going to miss you.

you so much. Do you, are you going to miss me? Are you going to miss me? I'm going to miss you so much. I can't even think about it. I'm in denial that you're leaving in the morning. Two things. You know you've got to do like a dumb and dumber thing when you're like going, you're like, I'm going to a little place called Aspen for the beer flows like wine. Oh, my Jerry do with me. And are you into like outdoorsy looking like bearded? Do I look like a, oh, oh outdoorsy, men. I thought you're men outdoors. No God, no, you're not doing any outdoor like doing. I'm Jewish. So we don't do any, we don't hunt fish, we don't hike. We don't change tires.

My dad said to me, don't ever do anything that you could pay another person to do for you. I'm a Jew through and through. I'm actually not religious at all, but culturally would never change a tire. That's Raina's hit song. I'm a Jew through and through. But I mean, do you like a guy that looks like that? Lumber sexuals? Yes, lumber sexual.

Thank you, girl, for coming up with a term in your drunken state. Listen, I don't have a type. I like men. I like a man. A manly man. I'm gonna start testing people right now while we're talking. All I can say is I can't even wait for your Denver Instagram stories. You just like creeping on all these like burly bearded men.

Here's an update. And no one's gonna know who they are because they don't use social media because they're just like too cool. Right, they're too like hipster. Yeah, they're like, that's. I'd rather be hiking. Red flag or deal breaker. I'd rather be hiking than on Facebook.

No. Ew. Facebook, though. Facebook's over. Instagram? Yeah, right. I'd rather rehiking than Instagramming? I don't know.

Can we do both? Can we do both? Can we do both? Okay, well, if it's one or the other, then that's a dope brager permit. Anyways, I have not fucked a man that did not have facial hair in. I mean... Oh, you don't like a clean cut guy? Absolutely, like, under any circumstances.

You know, some guys like can't grow facial hair. Which is funny because I do like light-haired guys, which tend to not be able to grow hair. Right. Our guest today has light colored hair. Oh, great transition, girl. Transitions on transitions. I'm a professional, actually. You're on the wine transitions.

I'm a little drunk. Okay. Anyways, so excited. Are we doing it? Are we introducing him? Is there other other things you need to talk about? No, I'm done, girl. That you're not dating anymore.

Guys, still single. Stop us update. Hashtag you after getting late. Anyways, so we are super excited, guys. Today we have a guest that I... It's a big get for me. You've been saying you wanted this guy on the show since day one. I can't believe you make me sound like him with the intro.

I'm such a loser. Guys, I'm super excited to welcome to the show. The Star of Southern Charm, Shepard Rose. I'm not the star. That's presumptuous and haughty of me to say... I think you're the male protagonist. I'll accept protagonist, thank you. Okay.

I mean, there's some, you know, that, yeah, I can't... say it's an ensemble cast. I was the star of relationship. I can tell you that. Right. You did get your own spin-off. Yeah. All right, guys, he's very humble.

We're going to get that right off the back. Humble brag. Humble brag. That is a good humble brag. I'm not the star of the show, but my other show. That was all about me. Exactly. That had my name in it.

All right. Introduce yourself to the audience. How old are you? Where are you from? What's your story? I'm from Hilton Head Island, South Carolina. I'm 38 years old. time flies

I live in Charleston I'm on the show Southern Charm Charleston's about two hours north of Hilton Head where I grew up So Did you go to college there? I love it No I went to college University of Georgia In Athens I went to boarding school in Virginia

At a place called Episcopal High School And then I went to University of Georgia And then I lived in Charleston out of college I didn't do anything Am Ila de Cuss? Oh God, yeah. Okay.

Yes. I didn't do shit in Charleston. I had a job. Anyway, I don't even get into it. I had a girlfriend. My big, big girlfriend. Big and size. Big relationship.

My big relationship. She was a huge person. Pretty face, though. Pretty face. Plus size. Lane Bryant model. Date of the model. Yeah, that's right.

I'm a model guy. Model citizen. Guys, Shep is very tall and very handsome so only day smiles. You guys have a tall cast. Like the girl, I didn't realize how tall the girls are. Catherine's 5-11, I didn't even realize. No, I think she's six feet. Easy, right?

Yeah, I mean, I love it. I'm tall, so. It's a reality show. They cast smoke shows. No, like Hollywood is short. I mean, I don't think we were looking, or we, I wasn't looking, I was, Whitney created the show. Did you know him? I want to ask you about this. How did you

get on this show? I was in a rooftop party, New Year's Eve. Stars? Nope. I went to Stars. I love stars. Okay. And ran into Thomas Rabinnell.

Did you know each other before? Yes, but not well. From the papers. Well, he lived on my uncle's street and technically were like related seven times removed kind of thing, like, which is anybody who's old family is from old South Carolina. Right, right. And I said, hey Thomas, what's up? And he was like, well, this guy named Whitney Sunderler-Smith is interviewing me about trying to do a show here in Charleston. I said, oh, okay.

And he goes, he's right over there. I want you to meet him. And Whitney comes over, and I was like, nice to meet you. And I had a card, a business card, that said, go fuck yourself. Did it have your name? No, it had a guy punching another guy in the balls. No, it's long gone. Oh, man.

And I handed it to Whitney, and he loved it. He's like, you're on, you're in. And so we just started laughing and having a good time, and the rest is history. Was it his decision? Was it Whitney's, so reality shows are so rarely male and female. Was he like, I want to do a male female past? Yeah, he wanted to do a male show. He wanted to call Southern Gentlemen.

Oh, gotcha. Okay. And have all these wacky characters. and we had that big night that night first time we met and then he goes come tomorrow let me buy lunch

with my business partner and co-creator and we end up having a funny, boozy, fun lunch and and then we, when more we talked, he was like,

you are exactly who we want for this show. It's about I guess you could say the southern aristocracy or sort of the answer to the southern

stereotype of a hundred Boo-boo-boo or Andy Griffith, you know, I love Andy Griffith, but, you know, just sort of... Well, the music they use and like all that. All shucks, you know. And I don't think that part of the country has really been

focused on, really ever in a reality show, especially on Bravo. Right. Right? Yeah, no, I hadn't. Yeah, there's like... Well, you know, it's interesting, and I'm jumping around. Are y'all wanting to do a chronological... You say whatever you want that.

it. Just remember when Jersey Shore came out as like a phenomenon. The first season of Jersey Shore couldn't miss a Thursday. We talked about this. Raina had a guy doer from behind so she could watch an episode. I couldn't miss an episode. That's amazing. He was my boyfriend.

I wasn't like a stranger. I know, but like I would like bring guys home and be like, we got to watch my DBR. I do the same thing for Steelers games. If you want to have sex with me, we're going to also watch Steelers. Same time. Anyway. This is what we really talk about in the show. That's fantastic.

So yes, we know Jersey Shep was like, is it okay if I pass. Jersey Shore season one. I wait until fucking Jersey Shore is over, but okay, she's irresistible. A siren, a tempteress. I did bring her guy home. I was like, before you're cute now, you should have seen me in my 20s. Smoke show. Okay, so, anyway.

Creative Jersey Shore. So, yeah, so I think the reason it was popular was you got, everyone got to peek behind the curtain of this part of the world that they kind of knew about but didn't really know. Yeah, totally. It was voyeurism, and it's, very finest. And so I went down to Jersey. By the way, Avalon's really nice. It's really nice. Have you been there? Mm-mm. And I couldn't walk five feet without a picture. It was crazy. My friend, so I find that interesting

that the people from Jersey were just as interested in the south as the people from really everywhere was into the Jersey. I think that's why our show is popular. It's peeling back the curtain of this lifestyle that you maybe had some preconceived notions. I don't know. That's my little too. Okay. So I want to ask you a question. So you're on this reality show.

Lots of girls come to Charleston for bachelor parties, birthday parties, whatever. On like a daily basis, how many DMs are you getting from girls? I don't read my DMs. You don't. Are they off? I know they're on. There's probably thousands. Thousands.

It's like an ocean of DMs. I used to read them. There's just too many, and I don't know these people. I know it sounds, I mean, in the beginning, first couple of years, I'd probably dabbled. Dabbled to the DMs, okay. But now I'm sliding into DMs. What are you?

Yeah. What's the last DM slide you did? Wait, hold on. Who's DMs are you sliding into? You're just like swinging for the fences? How did that work out? Then you hear her shit back. Maybe she doesn't look at.

I'm all obsessed with these two girls. Who are they? One of them's an Australian model, and the other one is here. We love Australian models. They're both Victoria's Secret models. No, one of them won the next top model in Australia. She's so hot. It makes me hurt.

Wait, so I'm going to know what's your DM opener. I don't know. I'm really bad at it. Hi. Hi. Hey, I'm going to be in New York. If you're going to be in New York, let me know. We'd love to get together and chat.

Are they leaving you on red? I mean, I don't even think they see it. I think, I mean, I think those kind of girls, they definitely don't check their DMs. You know what my move is. Every time I see a cute guy in New York, I put them on my Instagram story, like on the subway. A hundred percent of the time. I bet you'd be surprised at how the girls that I, the two girls that I think are, like, I would drop anything for. I don't think you.

We would be surprised at the two models that are. No, you would. You would. I mean. Oh, because they're average? No, they're just like very unnatural. I know. I would be surprised by that?

Yeah, I love that. Okay. So, like, what is your perfect woman? You could build a woman. What's your type? Honestly, like, I can tell on, like, the lip injection shit, if it's overdone, like, it's just, I don't even want to talk to you. Right.

It's probably not going to work out. Let's just go our separate ways. Right. So you like a more natural look? Yeah. I mean, age gracefully, if you possibly can. You know what I mean? I just dated, I just had a brief stint with somebody who was, I mean, I really like her,

but she's like, I do Botox all the time. I was like, you're in your 20s. Oh, why? And like, also, why are you admitting that? Why? Perventive. How was she? It's 26.

I think girls start getting Botox around like 28, 29. That is so dumb, I think. It's preventative. Of what? I have Botax. I'm 30 too. I've got, you can't tell. Do you have, no, you look great.

Thank you. But like, can you, do you have wrinkles on your forehead? My mom has really deep craters. My mom is wonderful. The beautiful woman. Deep craters in her face. So she was like, when you're trying to like 29, like get one shot here. Okay.

That's all I've gotten. Okay. You know. But people, it's like addictive for some people. And there's, I mean, I know girls that like they can't age. That's off the table. Like it's just especially in the South. And it's your job.

I live in the South for a long time. Like a certain type of girl, it's like, oh my God, you can't, there's no trace of aging on your face. It's just not allowed. Yeah. It depends on where you do. I agree with you. It's tough. I'm so glad of my guy.

No offense, girls. Well, I don't, I know guys that do it. Oh, sure. And I'm like, I love, like, I remember my ex, my Charleston ex, like started getting some crows feet. I was like, this is sexy and like a little gray. I was like, I love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the Truvago guy getting Botox.

A guy getting Botox is disgusting. I can't. The Chavockega guy. I think you should buy and pay for whatever makes you feel good. I think if a woman wants to buy breasts, buy breasts. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, I'm down with that. Yeah, I'm just, I'm not going to do anything.

Maybe it's because I'm lazy. No, I don't think, man, number one turn off, a guy that's getting Botox. Yeah. Does Whitney get Botox? He definitely does. You don't have to tell me. No way. I, A, no, or B would tell you if I did.

Okay, so I want to ask you, this is like a topic I'm excited about. Your whole... Do you all have a set of questions? Are you just going off the top of your head? No, I'm just... We're really good at this show. I love it. We list a couple topics that we formulate a...

around a guest and then we just sort of like want the show to be about you so if we can hit those great. My favorite subject. It's everybody's favorite subject. And my first love. You. Me too. If you have a conversation with somebody about themselves, they will tell you they just

have the best conversation of their life. For sure. Anyways, I feel like for five years, for five seasons, the storyline about you has been like, when is Shep going to settle down? Why can't Shep be in a relationship? And I want to take the opposite stance and say, I don't understand why anybody needs to be in a relationship. And I think that there is so much personal fulfillment that you can get from so many other things and like picking a person and relying on that person for your happiness.

So twofold, I want to know. I wholeheartedly agreeing. You're like, where you are right now in your life, are you like, I'm cool with this? Are you kind of like, I see it in like five years? Like, if you were to be honest, are you wanting to find somebody or you, you're just cool being. Doing what you're doing. Yeah, I'm always, yeah, I would love to be struck by lightning, you know, in that, so to speak. And be so smitten and happy.

It's happened a couple times in my life. And I've been in a couple, like, really good, but it was a while ago, though. It's been a while. And like a couple times recently, I've been in some sort of, I won't name names, but sort of, like, texting all day, all night. we live thousands of miles apart and it hasn't really come to fruition but I do like it was like I was at a bar or something

I was like I'm going to go home so I can text this person without people talking to me and it was lovely it was fun it was just like back and forth maybe it wasn't perfect but like that feeling is a great feeling when you're totally engrossed in somebody else and it's rare

and you have the both sick sense of humor and, you know, it's back and forth. When you finish typing and you already see the bubbles going in, that means that you, like, they're thinking, you know, they're excited, you're excited. Right. And it's pretty cool. I wonder if that's a great way to start relationships these days. It's via electronic communication and for a while and really, I don't know.

I don't know. What do you think? I mean, I feel like I get in these situations. There's a gray area where I find, like, I get these situations. People and I, like, love that we, like, vibe. And you're like, this person has the same weird sense of humor as me. Yeah. And, like.

Then you meet them and you're like, oh. But that happened to me, right? I remember the best texter guy. And then we had the date and it was like, he's so good on text. Oh, because he's just, like, you give him a moment to sort of get his thoughts together. But right and I talk about this all the time of like, there is something between you people that's almost like chemical, where you're around each other. Yeah, I know. We have this.

I'm like, man, I love that guy. He's so funny. because I just, I have to have a funny guy, like, do comedy. It's like a must. And so I'm like, he's the perfect guy. I want to text with all day, but, like, we went on a long date. I was just like, ooh, I just don't feel the thing. You're right.

You're right. It is chemical and physical, but. But there is something to be sad about, like, the texting and the banter. And the anticipation and all that. So I don't know what's right. I mean, if you want to know the truth, I like. You were like, I do that. I masturbates with the jokes I make.

I just skip the things that the guy said. Right of I lay in bed and listen to our own voices on our podcast. I've been in bed with a girl, several girls, and been like, I am wasting my A material on this. Practice. My pillow talk is so on point. But just save it.

No, I'll put on my phone on group chat with my friends on speaker and just be like, and start doing pillow talk and be like, you'll hear that? You need to set up a voice recording. so you don't miss anything. Right. I'm not very susceptible to the, like, the text banter. Like, oh, for sure.

Like, I'll see you and, like, my panties just fall on the ground. Like, we don't need to be like that. But, like, that is if we don't have the banter. And then in person, it's like, it's over. Forget. Well, somebody, you could be the best-looking man in the world. You can be the most successful. What, I, if I don't think you're funny and dynamic, like, it's just, I can't do it.

Totally. You know? You could be the best-looking man in the world. Right. So are you, you're just kind of, like, happy with what you're doing if the right girl comes long. You know, I don't hope this isn't like too meta or whatever. It would be kind of cool to be on a relationship on a season of Southern Charm.

For you. But here's the thing. I don't think that way. I'm not going to do something I don't want to do for television purposes. But it would be, I know the audience would eat it like, you know. Well, that's what everybody wants. That's why we're at talking about this, because it seems like it's like, the storyline of like, shit.

Yeah, I know. And so I have, I mean, I have opportunities to date. Well, here's the thing. I want to be stoked. I want to be really, really stoked and excited. And, I mean, Danny, so here's a question for y'all. Danny and Cameron and I have an ongoing debate. Cameron and Danny think that if, let's say your life is a milkshake, they think,

to reach a level where it's a perfect milkshake, you have to get your life to a perfect milkshake, and then you'll find the woman. I think a woman is an ingredient to make the milkshake perfect. Right. So, like, you know, people are like, oh, you're going to, I'm never going to change for someone,

or I will change when the right person comes along. I think it's, I think you change a little bit. You never want to really wholesale change, but when you meet someone that is worthy of you making certain corrections or concessions, concessions, yeah. I would say, like, you don't have to change as a person. So Cameron's like, you need to do this, this, this, and this, and get all regimented,

and then you'll meet the one. I'm like, uh-uh, uh-uh. But I think, look, she is beautiful and clearly in a great relationship. Yeah, yeah. But that's what makes her happy. And I'm like, no, I need to meet the person. Like, so in my mind, like, let's say I meet this really talented, great girl and smart and blah, blah, blah. she's going to inspire me to be more industrious or creative or whatever I'm working on or, you know, be a better person.

And then I'll be a man in full, so to speak. I think that nothing can like bring a man to his full potential like a woman for sure. Right. And so, and then I'm also very like against this whole like looking for the person to make you whole thing. Like I feel like. No, no, no, no. You're right, you're right. But I like the thought of, like, I'm fully happy and fulfilled and I really love myself.

I don't need somebody, like, complete me. No. But, like, when that person comes along, you're like, oh, shit, this is the thing. And now. How is fair is it to feel like another person is responsible for your happiness? Right. Well, honestly, and another thing is, like, I'm not necessarily proud of some of my habits in life, you know. I don't want someone being like, you hadn't moved in fucking five hours.

Well, let me ask you. So that's how I want to do it. Do you want a girl that's like going to kind of get you off your ass? Well, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who it is. It could be a dog. Like literally that you're kind of ashamed knows what you're doing. You know what I mean?

Like being alone is very easy. You don't have to explain yourself to anybody. Yeah. But do you want somebody that kind of just motivates you a little bit or you want somebody that lets you be? I don't know. You don't know. Can I pitch a question to you guys? Just a thought.

I feel like some people feel like you need to. to be with somebody because you feel alone if you don't have a companion. I don't feel that way at all. But I have felt more alone in some relationships I've been in than I feel outside of that relationship actually single. So what do you think about that? That makes sense. But that's totally a, that's funny. That's a woman's talking about a men.

You think that men don't feel alone now. Men feel trapped. There's this great quote. I felt trapped. It was a great quote. It says, it's funny. women at first block your advances and then block your retreat. I do that.

That's so true. I just feel like I've been in relationships that felt like a chore and an obligation. I understand. You're downloading your day with like your secretary or something. And you're like, I would feel less alone just being alone. For me, it's not the word alone. It's just like miserable and stressed. When you're in a shitty relationship, God, yeah, it's way better to.

to be single. And in the Southie, there's like, there's like an Ozzie and Harriet type of thing. Yeah. Like, honey, I'm home. I leave at nine, come home at six. I'm not like that. I'll never be like that. And it's hard for me to... What do you mean like that?

Like a nine to five? I will never do that. Like a routine. Like a boring routine. Oh, God. I worked yesterday for four hours. I thought I was going to die. And...

We record for two hours and we're like, oh my God, how do people work? Yesterday I was like, guys, I worked a whole. Half day. It was exhausting. So anyway, so there's that preconceived notion and that template. And as much as I think it's bullshit and the world has changed, you can't help. I can't help it be like, God, I can't even envision a domestic situation where it's normal when I'm in the equation. So it's weird.

It's very. But what is normal? I don't know. Normal's different in the south you're saying than the north. anywhere these days. It's just everything's changed, you know, or changing. Well, here, there's no normal. Like, I mean, anything goes.

Like, and so, I mean, I lived in Atlanta for 10 years, then I moved here. I'm just like, there's no, like, the South just has a little bit different standards. Okay, let's say. So you're a comedian? Mm-hmm. And that's all you do. I do stand up, but I have a lot. I mean, I do the social media thing and I do this and I'm a writer.

All right. All right. So let's say we were dating. Seriously. What would we do? We would wake up whenever we would. Do you wake up early? No.

Thank God. Somebody wanted her attention today. I was like, she will be available at 11 o'clock. All right. So I've never had a good conversation before noon ever in my entire life. That's perfect. Never had an original thought before noon. So, okay, we'd wake up whenever, 10, 10, 30.

Yeah, perfect. And then what? What happens then? Well, my whole thing is, like, I just want people to be happy with, like, what they're doing. Maybe you grab lunch together. Maybe you have a lunch with someone else. Yeah. Like, I.

Do you feel guilty? guilty about coming back to the apartment. Like, oh, shit, I should have been gone. Do you, like, walk around the block for a few times? No, like, I'm telling you, people always ask me. I'm just curious, because, like, I don't, I've never had to. You think because you don't have a traditional lifestyle? Yes, that I would, like, maybe hide some sort of.

I think if someone saw my day to day. I dated people that were pieces of garbage, and yes, I don't want them sitting around the apartment all day long. But if you have, like, this mailbox money coming in and, like, you're set up, it doesn't, you don't need to be, like a traditional person. And I've dated people that have probably thought it was weird that I walk around in my underpants until 3 o'clock in the afternoon. But I can do that. No, that's cool. But my thing is, I just don't like someone that is making, is feeling sorry for themselves and like wallowing. So, like, if you're doing what you want to do and you're happy and you're not complaining that you're not fulfilling your potential, like, that's my whole thing. Like,

I hate somebody that's like, I wish I could be doing it. It's like, well, then fucking do it. So I just like, if you're happy and you are bringing in money and we can travel, like, that's Cool. Can I ask you a question? You probably do like a lot of interviews, a lot of podcasts, a lot of stuff like this. Not so much. No, you just sit down by yourself all that all day. You just do nothing. Rina. Oh, no. Jeez. No, I do. I'm doing really well. Well, the reason I have this company called Shepgear and like we are freaking knocking it out of the project. Why didn't you bring us some gear? Because we have none left. We sold out of it. A good answer. Can I redeem myself? So the reason I'm asking you that is I want to ask you,

Like, what do you feel like people don't ask you that you really want to talk about? Do I want to talk about anything? No, no, no. You guys drive the bus, man. I mean, I can talk about some things, but it's probably... I really am into politics and the current sad state of affairs. Do you feel like living in the South is very polarizing? I mean, in a lot of places, but Charleston's pretty progressive, which I'm proud to be a part of.

Yeah. And I mean, I've got, it's tearing families apart all this lately. Could you date somebody with completely opposite political beliefs? I couldn't either. I actually, one of my best friends, I walked out of dinner with her. This girl was a Trump supporter, and I was like, get the fuck out of my house. I just came. I'm just kidding.

Shuck. Ashley's going to slap off her seat. I wasn't that mean. I was like, I'm just calling you an Uber. Like, I just don't respect your intelligence or your dignity. In my lifetime, I've never seen a politician. should divide the country like this? Divide it.

I mean, let's be honest. I don't know one smart person that supports them. Not one. Not anymore. And I think, I mean, I was in Atlanta. Yeah, maybe in the beginning, they're like, oh, we'll shake things up. Right. I want something new.

I lived in Atlanta at the time, and it was very, like, I think now looking back, I'm like, okay, I can kind of understand some people. No, no, God, no, God, don't even get me. But I think some people that maybe didn't have that level of emotional intelligence were like, no, no, no, this will be good. But anyone that still is, is a delusional freak. So no Trump supporters for Shep. I love him even more.

But we were going to, you know what? The kind of transitions into one thing that I was thinking of. What that? So probably of all the people, I've probably dated the dated and hooked up with the most guys from Charleston. It's just whatever. Like I've been there so much. And I always felt that like. Did you date T.

Oh, God. Yes. It's 55 to all for you? Mm-hmm. No, he's my nightmare. I feel like every time I go to Charleston, I've been there so many times, like dozens of times, guys will approach you. Like, I've never not been to doing Charleston and New York girls can, well, right now I guess is the exception.

But I've talked about this a lot of girls that they're like, guys in New York just like won't approach you. And I don't know. I can't leave the house. It's like they just swarmed me. Shut the fuck up. So it just, I think Charleston is like, Charleston is the best city where I feel like guys will just be like come up and like introduce themselves, say hello. they'll walk up to a whole bachelor party. They don't care.

I don't know. I think men are more brave and bold in the south? I haven't had that experience. I'm pretty intimidated by going up to a group of girls. It depends on the situation in my state of mine, but I don't know. How do you typically meet girls in person at bars? Yeah, yeah. Friends of friends.

That's the way to go. And now, you know, things have changed a little. But like I'm going to London next week to the Royal Out. Lascot horse races with some posh British friends. And I think there's a, you know, in my mind, I'm like, oh, there's a chance I can meet some posh British babe. Oh, yeah. Who knows. You know, I love it.

I love it, though. Oh, I love it, too. The last person I stuck with is British. I was just down in the lower or in Tribeca or West Village. And I was walking with Austin and Craig from the show. And these two pretty girls were in front of us. And they kind of turned into a building and we walked by and they go, do you all have any Adderall? No.

I was like, no. They just asked total strangers on the street. I'm surprised it was Adderall. Right. They were like, or anything else, you want to go out. They were like Adderall in quotes. But that was a pretty interesting approach, I thought. So you're here for the reunion.

Filmed it. Filmed it. In the can. Done with it. Any spoilers you want to share with us. I'm not going to, I can't do that, unfortunately. But like, it's going to be, I think, cathartic and controversial at the same time for the audience. There's some people that are going to, you know, certain people felt a certain way for a number of years.

And the tide has maybe shifted. Okay. And so it's kind of interesting to see that. and it's kind of touching and I may or may not have shed a little bit of a tear only because someone else was shedding a tear. Oh, okay. Well, I want to say, and I'm sure you can't say that she's fine,

but I have really loved Catherine season five. It has really like filled me with joy to watch this person evolve. No, I know. And she is like so patient now. I mean, she was a volatile hellcat. Right. As anybody would be as a 21-year-old. on reality TV, getting gaslit all the time.

Right. You know? Yeah, I mean, but she made her own problems. And gosh, like, there's some stories that happen off camera of the volatility of her relationship early on that you couldn't make up. But I can't imagine being on camera at that age. It's crazy. And everybody with, like, what she was, problems with alcohol, did we, not all at 21,

22, 23. I mean, we didn't do a lot of shit. And I think, yeah. Yeah. Wow. Listen, we don't know. I was always the one I maintained that gave, that, that sort of was empathetic. You were a nice voice for her.

I was just like, okay, we're hearing some information, but it, and the fact that she couldn't convey her truth, so to speak, because she was just unable to communicate it cogently. Yeah. Because she was, you know, just a volatile human being. Right. And she's had her bouts with this and that.

Even before that, I mean, there's this great picture of her. I'm sorry, Catherine, but of a mugshot when she was at South Carolina, a university. A real mugshot? Yeah, yeah. And her makeup is streamed down her face.

I mean, she'll laugh about it to the same. I got to bring my mugshots in. I would love to have my mugshots. I've been arrested several times. I'm so jealous. I've never been arrested. I have no muck shots. I got picked up.

I'm a fucking nerd. I got arrested. I got arrested for peeing in public. I got arrested but I didn't get a muck shot. Yeah. All right. We died. All right.

I want to, you think that season five, Catherine redeemed herself from all the other seasons. I think, though. I'm trying to remember her season four sort of. She did well, but I think season five, like I watched her. a couple episodes ago, he had, like, attacked by Thomas Robinnell's girlfriend, and I just felt like it was beautiful. You know what?

I saw that, obviously. Speaking of Trump supporters. Yep, yep. Well, she says it. She says, like, Melania Trump's like her. No, no, no. She's a full-on supporter. Well, and we were talking about this before you came here,

like, I don't think that we've ever, I mean, I'm sure you guys have reconciled, whatever, but you've never been vocal about not liking somebody on the show. You're usually like this voice of reason. You're like the mediator. That scene where I sat down and said I fucking hangers. was due to a couple things. One of which was, after her outburst at Dufusky,

one would think you sleep on it, and then you say, you sober up. Yeah, and you're like, you know what? She doubled down. She, no, no, was emboldened by the whole thing. Walked around like she fucking owned the place. Which was crazy. And I thought, wow.

Because she didn't like throw down and make crazy points. It was just she said a meat. thing. No, no, no, no. If you were actually there, like... She did? She threw down?

They showed... I mean, if they showed the whole, the breadth of what she said, I mean, there'd be torches outside. I mean, you know... Not to be proud of on the no, no, no.

She said some of the ugliest things I've ever heard. Right. To say to someone else. So, and when she was emboldened by it all, I thought... Like, she's like,

I run this shit now. It's like, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we got into a political discussion, which they can't, I mean, there's no reason to shut out. Right. So there was a reason I said, I fucking hate her. And I mean, at that moment I did, I don't hate anybody. I don't want to have any enemies in this wrong.

I was surprised because I don't think that, I mean, I'm a super fan of the show. I don't think I've ever heard you say a bad thing about anybody. Yeah, I try not to. But she, man, that's a bad thing about Craig. That's the type of person that. Well, Craig earned it, and so is she. Hashtag she really earned it. Oh my God, Craig.

Actually, she's the worst. That's my nightmare of a person, like just to be a feminist and just to see that. I'm just like, I can't like love to hate her. And how about Craig the episode where these are the life coach? He's like, I'm a perfect liar. I'm the best liar. And she was Oceopath? She kept trying to help him to sound better and he was like, no, no, no.

I am really good at. What else is he good at? There was a lot of people like, I think that they're like, by, behind the scenes and, and, by the way, everybody loves Craig because he's a harmless guy. We know we're both from Delaware. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Delaware guy.

And the thing about Craig's lying, they don't hurt another soul. They're all about, I guess what I'm up to or, you know, like this, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you're like, no, you're not, you know, but it's, my mom says it's saying, that boy would lie when a truth is a better story. Hashtag me, Craig. Hashtag new crack. So I just, I think there was a lot of people who were like, holy shit, when he was like, I'm a really good liar. Because that was like a cathartic moment for him. And I love when he's raw like that.

He was proud of it. Well, yeah, I know. But like, I think like. Like, at least he owned it. Yeah. It's hard to own your shit. I would advise anybody on reality TV to own your shit. Because he is as bad as it is, if you're honest with yourself and honest with the audience.

Yeah. they will forgive you or at least attempt to understand. Do you feel like, and this is the last question I'm going to ask about the show before we like segue into something fun? Because this has been terrible or? No, no, no. I just, I don't know if you want to answer this and you can feel free to not. Be on reality TV, do you think all the time, like, how am I going to be perceived? Maybe I shouldn't say this.

Or are you, like, how much behind, like, how much goes into your thought behind, like, what should I say on national television? What shouldn't I? I don't think about, I mean, of course I think about what I'm going to say, but like I don't prepare anything typically. I know, it's a chess match. You have to know that every action has an equal reaction. Maybe a greater reaction with social media and whatnot. So it's a very, very thin, sharp razor's edge to walk between being controversial. and interesting, yet gracious and polite.

Likeable. Yeah. So if everybody was nice to each other, there wouldn't be a show. Right. You know? So you got to, like, I just, I'm a decent at reading people. So I know whose camp I should probably be in. I mean, I know that instinctively, but like, I know not to, not to poke that bear or that one,

or not right now unless they do this. You've totally got to be cognizant of that. You're not good at the game. I thought my friend Landon was extremely inept. Yes. At knowing the audience, you've got to know the audience. Well, and... She just didn't know how certain things were going to sound.

Yeah, which is just like tone deaf. Yeah, you know. Just some stuff that was really cringy, that she like doubled down on cringy spot. Yeah, yeah, and you're thinking like... What happened? And by the way, like, I'm not saying, saying that in the context of the show, that's the context of life, too.

Right, right, right. You know, like, you've got to be circumspect and judicious about what you reveal in your mind, you know? But, you know, if, you know, you also got to stand up for what you think is right, too. So it's, you know, you got to walk the line. You got to figure out what's worth it to you. Right. What battles to fight. Right.

And so. Well, sometimes, you know, we're not actors. We are not actors. We don't have a script, you know? but you better be sure, you better understand that if you do, you know, draw lines in the sand, it might get you in trouble later. Right. All right.

You want to just go back in for us? At the end of every show, we play a game with our guests. We switch up what the games are. This week we're going to play, would you rather? Are you going to that? I'm not into games, but please. Like playing games. I mean, I played the mean, I played the mean, spin the bottle when I was 14.

Yeah. God, how much fun was that? Who was the first girl you ever made out with? Roxanne Purdy. Purdy. That's the other name. Boxy Roxy? Damn right. Her dad owned a liquor store in Hillman.

You knew a young age. That's the person to date. How old were you? 14. I didn't, 14, 13, 13, 13, 14? Oh, yeah, yeah. I didn't have sex until I was 18. Oh, okay.

17. I didn't sex. I was 16. I was just, I just wasn't interested in girl. I was supposed, all I wanted to do was play sports. All I wanted to do, girls were a big distraction. They are. They are.

They still are. I was like, I'm trying to make three pointers over here. They'll ruin your life too. But my best friend, Andrew, he was, you know. Knock him down? You know, 13 stealing kisses. And it's just one of those things. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm more than made up for it, apparently. I watched a show. Allegedly. Allegedly. All right. We're going to play a game if you don't want to play. No, no, no, please, please.

Okay. There's questions. It's not like playing fucking twister. Would you rather never be able to orgasm again or never be able to get drunk again? Now, orgasms just finish. Finish. Yeah. Well, then I couldn't have children.

Okay. But you can never get drunk again. I'm so technical. No, I like the conversation. That's a thought process. It's around these things. That's why I asked the question. Yeah, I mean, it would have to be drunk, right?

Can I smoke weed? Yes, you can get fucked up in other ways. Sweet. Okay. See, alcohol. Okay. Bye, alcohol. All right, next.

I'm just going to miss the shit out of you. Are we alternating right now? Do you have your questions? Yeah. All right, go for it, baby. All right, this is a classic. Would you rather watch your parents have sex every day for life or join in once to stop it?

every day. Sure. Would you, do you want to date a six? That's super fun, cool, good in bed, or a perfect 10 who's just the worst idiot? Six. Yeah, everybody says that. Some guys won't really do that. They'll be like, I don't care.

I'll take the hottest chick I can find. Forever's a long time. True. Like, I feel like the perfect, I feel bad saying this. I think she's probably a very nice person. Jessica Simpson and Nicklishet. She was so beautiful. But she was funny.

At 20 years. She was funny because she was so dumb. I had this epiphany once. It was when I was filming a relationship. And there was four girls left. And we were on the beach filming. It was fun. And I ran into this girl.

A girl that wasn't on the show. Yeah. And who I adore. She's now married. I'm happy for him. But she has a house near where we were filming. And she goes, you should come by the house later. Bring the girls.

It'll be funny. I was like, okay. So cameras turn off. And I sort of sneak the girls out of the house to the house where this girl is. She is so fun. There's like seven of them. And I look over my girls are drinking the wine. And she is dancing to Salt and Peppa on a fucking table, you know.

And I'm just like, what am I doing with? Just give me this girl. Yeah. Who's fucking outrageous. and but she's from a great family and like she's just you know I'm outrageous too let's just both be outrageous for the end of time is that is this me that salt and pepper's my karaoke song shooop all day all right I'm going to wrap up this show because chef is in New York I'm sure he wants to go out and have fun no we've kept him way too late oh my god if I'm any more fun I'm going to

die I feel like Craig and Austin probably miss you're waiting hashtag new Craig where are they where are they waiting you could have brought them at the dream hotel hotel and we'll have a little fun. Craig's doing the, watch what happens tonight. He's ringing the doorbell. That's right. Which is the ultimate like this in the world? You can't be a guest. It's like being an usher. It's like the shirtless bartender. It's like being an usher. It is. He's going to do a reading. My best friend was an usher at a wedding. Best toast I ever heard. He goes, hi, I'm Matt. I'm an usher. He goes, who he goes, I've been an usher at five consecutive weddings now. He goes, who is an usher?

What is an usher? Why is an usher. He said, an usher is a good friend to many, a best friend to none. Oh, my God. It's so true. And then he had a fucking, he had a boombox that played usher. Yes, U.S. H-E-R-A, Y-F-O-N-D.

All right, guys. All right, guys. I'm done talking shit. I want to thank the star. of Southern Char of Southern Charms. The protagonist. He's the starting man. Anyways, I want to thank Shep for being on the show.

This is, did you have fun? Yeah, dude, I love talking to people that are fun to be around. Was this fun for you? I have fun. You are a really fun guest. Was this good for you? I mean, could I, do you think I've been faking, like, laughing and having a good time? You were a really fun guest.

Yeah, we've had a blast. Is there anything you want to plug? You've Shep Gear. People should check it out with and they find it. Apparently it's sold out. It's awesome. It's killing it. And I mean, I only sell things that I think people would, like, I would wear or my friends would wear. Like, I'm not trying to be like Rush Limbaugh or whomever.

Like, here's a new coffee mug, you know, or seat cushion. Or just like, you know, I'm like, you know, have a shirt. Oh, I love it. It's good stuff. So where can people find it? At www.shapgear.com. Okay, we're going to put it in a link in our story as well. It's awfully nice. So people can find it.

Oh, I'm stoked. Like, NBC is offered to have it, like, in their little web store. And it's, I mean, you know, it's exciting. And I get to be a little creative. I have a new design I'm very excited about. It's the back. It's the back of Michael, the Butler's head, bald head, with a tray and a martini and says time for your medicine. Stop.

Oh, so good. That's amazing. And then my Craig, I have one that says Craig is my lawyer. Oh, that's so good. And on the back and said he'll sew the pants onto you. No. Any shet. Crag's sewing joke is my favorite job.

Does Craig love it? Yeah, he has a good sense. There's so many lovely things about Craig and he has a sense of humor about himself. Good. He better. But listen, any friend of mine, any friend of mine, you better be able to laugh at yourself or else you're not really a friend. That's how I am too. Like, if you can't let me like nag you a little bit.

Well, let's get some hashtag new Craig shirts. And also, we will put the chef gear on our Instagram story. We'll do a swipe up. You guys can just shop directly. Yeah, and I don't know. Just everybody be kind to each other. And don't be too volatile in life because you never know. You might make a mistake too.

And don't even bother DMing Shep because he doesn't fucking look at him. Oh, yeah, I know. Unless you're those two people. Unless you are the Victoria's Secret Model. Unless you're Nadine Leopold or Tani. I forgot her last name. She probably, they probably both follow us. Oh, yeah, yeah.

No, we're famous. Yeah? Between us, we've, I mean. A million and a dollar. I've got like $540. We'll get you. We'll get you there. I just want to say Southern Charm is on Thursdays at 8 o'clock on Bravo.

Sorry, it's 9 o'clock. I will say this. It's the only reality show on Bravo I watch. I will say this. I hate waiting all week for it. I watch a little descriptive stuff. We drop our podcast on Monday morning like a nice girl. All right, guys, thank you so much for tuning in.

Walk into your work meeting in the next few minutes. Tell everybody about it. Send your DVR for Southern Charm. Say your DVR to Southern Charm. Put us in your Instagram stories. Follow us at Girls' Gotta Eat Podcast on Instagram. I don't know how to use Snapchat. I thought this was going to be a food.

I was like, why didn't they give me to come Girls Got to Eat? I don't even. It's a sex reference. I know. I can tell. You're thirsty or houndry. Am I? No, you're hounder.

Do I seem thirsty? No. You looked so offended. I'm a little offended. I post a lateh chap. You post a thirst trap on Instagram every morning. Okay, can I tell you? When's the last time you got Lane?

Oh, it's been a while. It's a couple weeks. What was that time you got Lane? Two nights ago. No, three nights ago. Do you want to make one of us a notch on that bedpost? I'm just kidding. Oh, my God.

That's all on you, girl. Ashley and I've never had a threesome. I'm just kidding. Is this happening? Shut the fuck up. The show's over. Are we off? Are we recording?

Are we recording? Yes. Okay, Courtney. Thank you for having me. I'm in control now. The wheels are totally off the fucking wagon. All right, guys, we have to go because we're going to have a free time. Okay, bye.

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