Girls Gotta Eat - The Snack: Breakup Bombshell, Airboat Captains, and Nobody Wants This

Episode Date: October 3, 2024

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about: Sabrina Carpenter got the NYC mayor indicted? Anna Delvey on Dancing With the Stars Lana Del Rey marries alligator tour guide Kristin Cavallari's breakup Nobody Wants This Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for tour dates, merchandise, and more. Thank you to our partners this week: Fresh Direct: Get $50 off your first order at https://freshdirect.com with code GGE. Hand & Stone: Enjoy free aromatherapy with your introductory facial at https://handandstone.com with code GGE or in spa. Quince: Get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order at https://quince.com/GGE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Snack, a lighter serving of Girls Got to Eat. This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy. Hi, guys. Hello. October 1st. Your special month. It's my special month?

Is today the first? This episode will come out in two days, but as we recorded it is October 1st. Today is October 1st? Yes. Oh, shit. It's my very special month. Everybody that's very serious in my life, including Ashley, all my past very serious relationships have started and ended in October.

And a lot of those people's birthdays are in October. It's crazy. My nephew is being born in October. Your nephew was born in October. It's really such a wild thing. I mean, it's always also the busiest month of my life to date. When I started working for myself in 2010, every October was crazy town. Like I couldn't function. And then I would have like weddings on top of it. And I was like working so hard. I think it's because people chill in the summer. September, a slow ramp up back to reality. And it's never been crazy. I mean, this month is about to be insane for us. We're gone for me. Most of it. I don't know who we are this month. Also, wait, is this coming out a Mean Girls Day? October 3rd. Okay. That's how we should have started it.

It's October 3rd. Oh, God, damn it, you mind. Anyway, happy Mean Girls Day. And I got a pedicure. Well, you knew this, but. No, it looks nice. It matches your fingers. I just wanted to update everybody since Raina dragged me last week.

You dragged yourself. Appropriately so. You dragged yourself. And I got these done in Pittsburgh at Kenny's Nail Center. That woman was fighting for her life. But at one point she wiped her brow. They were long. She was being a little dramatic with it.

She was. I was like, it's fine. I mean, they make fun of me for having long toenails every time I go into the salon. And I'm like, it's not my fault that I'm so healthy. And they grow so fast. No, I think she was like, you haven't been in here in a while, have you? I was like, well, I haven't been in here ever, ma'am. But yeah, it's been a minute.

Anyway, happy Mean Girls Day. You guys, happy October, our special month. Yes. We have a lot of fun stuff coming up this month. Oh, I've got so many shows. We'll be in New York for a show. Yeah. It's gone.

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And thanks to Quince, get free shipping and 365 day returns on your next order at quince. dot com slash gge. We're so blessed this week. This is such a fun episode, we hope. No, I'm really blessed. Fun topic. You and I are so blessed. I was so excited when like we just, listen, I feel bad for other people and their drama,

but I like talking about it. So we're going to kick it off with a criminal report. A couple criminals to talk about. Did Sabrina Carpenter get New York Mayor Eric Adams indicted? Somebody had to. We are not fans. He's just like a shitty. mayor. Most of the times people don't really like the mayor of New York.

Do you say mayor is funny? Mayor. Mayor. Do I know this? What do you say? Mayor. Mayor. Why are you mean sexy with it? Mayor. How do you say mayor? Mayor. Yeah. Mayor. You say mayor. Like a horse. You say it's sexy. Mayor. Mayor. Mayor. I say it French. Mayor. Mayor. Mere. Oh, meered. You know what I understand. We will explain this. But like, it's city, right? So, like, chances are, like, the smartest, most high-functioning successful people in the world live there. Like, why can't we find somebody better?

It's brutal. He's just, like, crooked cop energy. Anyway, so he's being indicted for bribery. And no, Sabrina Carpenter didn't get him indicted, but she's tangentially related. And did you, I really did dive into this this this morning to be able to explain it. I had to

read it a few times to understand it. So basically, she filmed a music video, which music video? Feathers. Feathers. Feathers at this Catholic church, which was kind of a crazy move. Like, it was really provocative and, like, gory. Right.

Like, she, that's crazy to do that. Well, it's crazy to let her. To let her. It's iconic to do it. It's crazy to ask and crazy to, she was probably like, are they for real? She's like me, though. When you're really little, people are just like, I'll do what she wants.

So anyway, the music video came out and the priest or the monseigneur, monseigneur, that's like a higher level priest. who approved it stepped down after the video came out because it was like so much backlash and kind of tried to say like I didn't know it would be so provocative and then it was like well yeah you did you approved it whatever so he stepped down and that just basically put this church on the map and people are speculating that led to the church and him the mon signor being more investigated and he has ties to this whole eric adams like bribery scandal it's kind of this web bit it's kind of convoluted. But bottom line is like her shooting music video brought this church

who maybe was doing some shady stuff. So like if she didn't shoot the video there, maybe they would have stayed under the radar. Right. And she was like being very cute at her show Madison's Quirk Garden and she said, should we talk about how I got the mayor indicted or? It was so funny because she like, I watched the clip and she was like, so anyway, like, so anyway, next. So anyway, it was just very casual. Like you think she was about to be like, so who's single in here? And then she was just like, so anyway, the mayor. So I guess she like ad lives a lot at her show. Yeah. It's like this It's just like her thing. She's like me and you.

It's just like our girl's got each out. But I mean, I feel like she broke that news to a lot of people. To me. I wouldn't have known about this. At the same time. Like him being indicted and then her. I wouldn't know. Yeah, I want him out of there.

But I don't know. It's just like, that's who people voted for. It's just, it doesn't ever seem like there's great options. Relatable. Yeah. I dated a guy. He was, um, de Blasio's like, right hand guy. He like worked for him.

I was like, tell me everything. How much does everyone hate him? So I know about this? That was the guy that, like, remember I said he had a really good time. Oh, that guy? He took me on a wonderful date. He was really great. And he had a great time.

It just wasn't it. He had a great time. It was like a perfect date. I think about, I think about those dates, those New York City dates sometimes. Like, those were not my people, but the dates themselves were like unreal. You'll never have a date in L.A., like a New York date. No. Just walk around.

I'm not kidding a yogurt. Okay. So I'm going to kick a traitor for our second criminal of the report. Anna Delvey. My whole personality. I'm so obsessed with her. I remember when the article about her came out in New York Magazine. I sat down and I digested all 10 pages of it.

I've never read so much my entire life. And then there's a show by Shonda Rhymes on Netflix about Ann Adelvey. So is that who the guy dated is in? Yes, and Osama Siddiqui, who has been a guest on the show. And he's a comedian. Just kidding. Yeah. He plays the founder of Blade on the show.

And it's like a 10-part series about how she defrauded all these people in New York City. She allegedly was opening this sort of art-themed Soho House. She attempted to defraud these banks. She defrauded a lot of hotels and a lot of people. People that could not afford to be defrauded. Yeah. And Raina like sends me this what you were watching it. And you were like, is this so-and-so?

This guy used to date in New York. It was so funny. So they joined the show. They do like a montage of photos of her Instagram and all these like fabulous people that she was with. And he's in one of the photos of her. Oh, that's it. He doesn't have like a speaking part. He doesn't have a speaking part.

He just, he's just in a montage of photos. Very good looking. I mean, I would pick him in a photo I would pick him for a photo That's such a shame He like wants to be an actor He's like they took a picture of me

I feel like Osama was like in the show And they're like, do you many hot friends To be in a photo I'm totally obsessed with her And that show and I just I loved it. It came out during COVID and I rewatched it Anyway so she is a contestant currently

On Dancing with the Stars She's a part of the cast of this season Of Dancing With the Stars And she famously has an ankle monitor on She's I didn't really understand it because she's like, went to jail a while ago. Now she's like on house arrest. She's his ankle monitor.

They bedazzled it so she could go on the show. So she's on this, she's this cast of Dancing with the Stars. The first elimination round, her and Torrey Spelling get eliminated. It was very funny. The clip last week they asked Tori Spelling. What did you learn? She's like, are you, are you show my kids that you can do anything if you believe in yourself and be proud of yourself?

They ask, get to tell me, what did you learn? And she just says nothing. I? No, she did, just be clear, she didn't say nothing. She said, I learned nothing. I learned nothing. It's one of the best clips I've ever seen. I like had a spit take.

Like I was like, the host didn't know what to do. Her partner didn't know what to do. She just stood there in it and let it marinate on the stage. She didn't like expand. I hope I get to do this one day. I hope one day I have a bad experience and someone asks, what did you learn? And I say nothing. I think you do learn something from every experience.

But just to say it, just to feel the rush. I loved it so much. I mean, she's iconic. Well, we don't support fraud and all that. The stuff she says is iconic. I've been talking about her like you want to be here, so I just want to be clear. No, I'm talking about her like I'm just very interested in her. I know, I know.

So the article in variety, Anna Delvey slams Dance with the Stars. As predatory after elimination, they only cared about exploiting me for attention. And so the quote was, I felt that the show so obviously used me to drive up ratings, that they never had any plan to give me any chance to grow. They only cared about exploiting me for attention. It was predatory of them to try to make me feel inadequate and stupid all while I did get progressively better, yet they chose to disregard that. The point of the show is to compete and people get eliminated.

Yes, the point of the show is ratings. Also, there's always some controversial borderline criminal, or in her case, the real criminal. Like, there's, I think they wanted Gypsy Rose. Gypsy Rose turned it down. That's a rumor, I think. I don't think that's been confirmed. But she even came out and said she wouldn't want to do it.

So I do think she was asked, whatever, who's to say? But someone has to go. You are bad. Yeah. Like, they set you up with a pro. You have your opportunity to improve, but people have to go home every week. It's not dance camp. And then out of the blue, they're like, you got to go. Yeah. Like, that's the point. You are the worst one. You got to go. And you're there to be exploited in a positive way. But you're there so that people will tune in. That's why reality stars, Real Housewives, Olympians, professional athletes. That's why everybody goes on the show so that people will tune in and watch. Also, predatory. You're predatory. Right. You're the number of Predator on that! You defrauded half of New York City! You took money from so many people that could not afford to

lose that money. I also think it's a flex to go home night one. Like, Nikki Glazer, who we love, who was such a bigger star now than when she was even on Dancing with the Stars, she went home the first elimination round and she like made it funny. Anna Delvey is the, couldn't be less funny. Annadelvie is like the human equivalent

of the bear. But it's just kind of like someone has to go home. Who'd you think? And honestly, she was the only draw for me this season. It's the only reason why I would have tuned in. So this notion of like they just brought me on and kicked me off. It's not good for them to kick you off. They would have loved for you to not

suck so bad. Also, Tessa, want to jump in? Because when you were, Tessa says something while you were out earlier of like the audience. The audience of it all. Yeah. Well, the viewer, there was backlash when she did it. So the viewers play a part in who goes home. And so I think this is the audience responding to not wanting to

glorify a criminal. And like, like put her on a pedestal. I think they really wanted her gone. So even if she wasn't the worst dancer, the audience plays a factor into if you go home. Right. Like you were always going to be on the chopping block unless you blew us away with your dance moves. It was like, no one really wanted this. People weren't happy about it. Uh-huh. I loved it for the ankle monitor of it all. But I mean, it was bedazzled. But I mean, it is true to like glorify a person and pay them to be on television. This person, she ripped off hotels, restaurants, personal trainers, friends of hers that didn't be money. The people that suffered really couldn't afford to suffer. And so yeah, I mean, she was a draw and they got her

the fuck out of there. Okay, so let's move on to, I can't even decide what my favorite headline is today, but should we move on Delana Del Rey? Yeah. Marrying her alligator tour guide. Rana, this is the most Raina coded love story. I, this is Raynal energy all over it. Raina. When I read the story, I'm like, that's Raina. This is May. You have fully. connected or dated people that you have posted on social media. So people don't know that back in 2019, Lana Del Rey went on an alligator tour given by this guy, Jeremy Defrain. And in a Facebook post, who was using Facebook back? Lana. In 2019, I'd retired by then. From the Facebook post, she wrote, Jeremy, let me be captain at Arthur's airboat tours alongside a photo for driving the boat

with him at her side. So they go way back and then they reconnected it says earlier this year. And this is from the cut, by the way. They just recently got married. We'll talk more about it. But like the origin story is so you. Like you would end up with like, you, I mean, you dated a security guard at our show. You know, like, you probably put him in your Instagram,

pre-show during Soundcheck. I've been putting him on my Instagram for years. We went to Austin together for Christmas. But I'm saying like the night of. Yeah. Like you're, you know, just. The hottest person I'd ever seen. I couldn't wait to get off saying to fuck him.

Yeah. Like sexualized him on your Instagram story. Then you guys date it. Anyway. So I just, I have to say it, because every time I hear about the story, I'm like, it's Rayna. It's just, this guy's so masculine to me. It's, like, sexy. And he's just like, I mean, everybody that they talk to about him is just, he's just like

this solid, nice guy. She's just, like, doesn't care if he's not, like, a part of Hollywood. I think people think this is wild. I mean, it's one of those famous people in the world. Didn't she go to the, was it the Grammys that she went to with Taylor Swift? Yeah, like, the award show that she showed up with Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift forced her on stage. Yes.

But like this is funny to think about her and alligator guy double dating with Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey. Insane. But did you, I guess she's had interesting taste. Okay. Always. So it says in recent years she's dated a cop. She got engaged to a guy who was in a YouTube cover band. Then she dated a different musician and then she got engaged again this time to a musician agent.

Sure, you might look at that and things sounds like she likes musicians, but Delray is going to Zig when you want her to zag. and then she married alligator guy, which is it crocodile? I know alligators and crocodiles both. I mean, they're both equally scary to me. But anyway, so she has, she is a little chaotic in her dating life. Yeah, you never know what she's going to do. And I love this. I love it so much.

I just, I will talk about Kristen Cavalary later, but like, you know, she really fell from Marquesta's because he was like outside that Hollywood bubble. Like, I fully understand, like, falling from people outside of this like gross Hollywood bubble. Totally. He looks like a weathered Florida man. He looks full, yeah. There's one picture when she when she posted him earlier this year, it was like her and him and her friend or whatever. That was the one like when they reconnected it looks like. She referred to him in the caption as my guy. I guess this was ahead of her appearance at Hangout Music Fest in Alabama. This was in May earlier this year. Okay. And he looked super hot then. But he just, he looks weathered. Yeah.

But not even saying that in a bad way. That's men age and they look... 50-year-old, he's a 50-year-old that age naturally. Yeah, he's 49. Oh, he's 49. She's 39, right? See? It's too old. I'll do 49.

And then I love that this, people are bringing up that she wore these hair clips in March of 2023 that were these big crocodiles. Oh. You haven't seen these? No. Have you seen the clips? What? Oh, my God.

So everybody's posting that in March 2023 on some red carpet, some award show, she was wearing these giant crocodile hair clips. We'll post on YouTube, obviously. And I just think that's like a hilarious Easter egg, if that was intentional, like wearing the clip of your crush. I'm going to wear car clips or Drake clips. Like Taylor Swift's going to wear football clips. Like I just think it's like so funny. Like what would you wear? That's an amazing fashion truck. And I, who knows? But if alligator guy was in her mind, then she probably was like, Oh, those clips slap. Wait, I love this. Yeah, it's really funny. I'm gonna wear a security clips. Security clips. Listen, loki, he might have been a hit man.

I'm not sure. Your guy. He's done a lot of stuff over the years, and he's hot. Should we talk about the hot jobs that we crowdsourced? Yeah, so we posted on Instagram and just wanted to know, like, what are some, like, off-the-beaten path jobs that you guys like low-key thing are actually, like, kind of sexy, you know? Like not the obvious, like, he is a chef, bartender, musician. People that are going to cheat on you. Yeah.

Chede on you. Comedians. Comedians, yes. To me, so we'll talk about these, but it's anything with power and control. And when you're holding a microphone, you've had power and control. You're the boat tour guide power and control. Like, that's why we think it's sexy or some talent. You know, you see a man like playing the shit out of a piano.

You can find it sexy, you know, or a tuba or whatever the fuck. Like it's those things like none of this is surprising of like well I guess some of them are a little surprising but anything when people are in charge I think is what women find sexy and I guess was it that like there was one clip that surfaced of him he what like pulled a crocodile out of the water and like kissed it and threw it back in like it was some like power movement that's terrifying. I mean have you ever seen these people like get into the water with the gators and like wrestle around with them it's insane. Have you done one of these airboats? Multiple times. Didn't even hesitate. Before we were friends. Yeah.

Wait, you have a secret license. Multiple times. I'm sneaking off to do airboats. I have done them twice in New Orleans and I've done it once in Florida. I did it once in Florida. I love them because they go so fast. Yeah.

And it's not like people can fit on that boat so you're like almost alone. They're really fun. Did you ever watch Tiffany Haddish talk about taking Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith on the airboat tour? No.

This is truly one of the funniest stories. She tells it on like Kimmel or something. I don't want to miss. speak. I think it was on one late night show and she had a groupon. This was before she was famous. She had a groupon for the airboat tour and she was out with like Will and Jada and they were like, we'll go. And what she picked him up and like her Honda, it was crazy. The story, her storytelling in that moment is like some of the best I've seen. It's one of the funniest things ever. And she, all these people were on the boat. There's pictures. That's where like Will Smith

is on this boat. On a groupon. You wouldn't even work. Shout out. Shout out to groupon. Also, people do have an issue with everybody keeping on calling him like the gator boat driver. And I've seen this a lot on posts, on Instagram, people being like, it's a perfectly good class of people. Why are we identifying people what they do for their job? People say singer Lana Del Rey. Like, it's not, first of all, I don't know that it's meant as a dig, but if it is,

it is still a little bit crazy that this incredibly famous person is marrying this guy. That's how we describe people. What I just read, musician, agent. It would say, I don't know, hedge fund manager. Yeah, it would say anything. It would say bodyguard. I don't think it's that. I'm not thinking of it like that.

We define people by what else would you say. If somebody said that like so-and-so married Raina Greenberg, it would be podcaster Raina Greenberg. And so I think it's two things. I think it is totally normal to identify somebody by what they do for work, but also it's a little bit crazy. Okay? And you need to have like a little bit of sense of humor about this.

It's a little insane. Yeah. And what, his ex spoke out? So she spoke out. And I guess that they had been engaged for 12 years, him and her. That's tough to digest. And then he got married after one month to Lama Del Rack. Well, they've had it since 2019.

They have been sold made since then, since Facebook. Okay, so unconventional hot jobs. Do you want to go through some of these? This first one really got me. Doc Boy. He was of age. She clarified. When you write Boy, you have to clarify.

So he just worked the doc. He just worked the doc. But it's like you said before, by the way, you are the master of your domain. It's sexy. Yeah. Okay, I love this one. Not the ghost tour walking guide. It really got me.

Okay, Zamboni driver. What is that? On the ice? You know the thing that like smooths the ice out? Do you not know what that is? The thing that you're fucking with me. That's crazy. The zamboni driver, you didn't know this?

This is the craziest thing I've ever heard about you. Everyone just knows what a zamboni is. I can't believe that you don't know this. It's like on the ice skating. Yeah. You know like the big machine. somebody drives around the ice skating rink? Why is it called that?

It's probably the brand name of like originally. It's like what the machine was. I'm just making that up. But like... Right. Like it's like John Deer. I can't believe I'm just finding this out about you. Wait, don't act like this is the most common knowledge.

You guys let us know in the YouTube comments immediately. Did you know Zamboni? If you had said Ashley, what is the Zamboni gunned to my head? I would have said some sort of food item. Okay. And if I had said to you like what's the machine they use? to clean the ice. Would you even know

that had a name? No. Okay. They're like ice cleaning machine. The ice scraper. Zamboni driver,

it's kind of set. You know what I think that's sexy because you have to have a real sense of humor about yourself to do that. Ice resurfiser is the vehicle. Nickname is Zamboni

because the first ice resurfacer was developed by American inventor and engineer Frank Zamboni in 1949. Frank sounds Italian. They just call it after the guy that invented it. That's fucking dope. That's so funny. Okay.

More hot jobs. UPS Brown truckmen. The delivery men in L.A. are second to none. Well, everybody in L.A. Everybody in L.A. Like, every – well, we can talk about ours. I'll jump in now. I went on date with my Tass Krabbit.

I mean, still, that's like handyman, you know, but it's just funny to say Tass Krabbit. That'd be funny. Podcast or Ashley has time. Mary's Tass Krabbit. I'd have to get that sponsored by the app. By the app. I just see a lot of hot delivery. guys on these streets.

Everybody that brings me my grab hub is hot. There's tight brown shorts. Yeah. All my delivery guys are hot. FedEx UPS. Amazon. No. Amazon and the way they just,

I watch them sometimes throw my packages. They're just like, Kobe. Like they love to throw it. I hear it. It sounds crazy. There was a time one guy. This is an Amazon. There was a time I watched a guy throw my daily harvest box so hard.

Like he literally was like going for a three. I was like, sorry. I opened the door. I was like, thank you. I love when the box is just all mash in and ripped. You're like, did you need to toss this so hard? Oh, sign language interpreter. You rarely see men.

Oh. I like that. I don't know if this is like under the radar. Anybody like be surprised, but mover is always hot. Well, you know, I just don't have good luck with it. I do. Like all my moves, I've never even had a hot mover. None of them, none of the crew was hot at all?

Never, not once. Well, one time in L.A., you know, I had like two moves. I have my guys who brought the stuff from New York. One guy was like kind of hot. I don't know. But the guy we mentioned earlier who's in that show was like, is also a mover on the side. Oh, right. We know a bunch of comedians that are movers that are like hot.

Very hot. Yeah. Bus boy. That's Raina coded. Not anymore. Ashley, I'm an adult now. When you were younger. Can I tell you my favorite one?

Yeah. Petal Tavern Driver. Have you ever taken a pedal tavern? No, you're going to do it. No, I have a real question. Do you actually peddle them? You don't have to, but you should give them a little help, but you don't have to. But a person does it, it's not motorized?

You have your, like, you know, eight or ten people around the pedal tavern. You have the pedals under you, but it's going regardless. So if I don't do it. You could just fuck off and not pedal. But the guys that do those pedal taverns are usually also some sort of, like, performer they want to be. They're often like comedians. Same as like sometimes New York City tour guides are comedians.

there people and boat tours like I've taken some pretty painful boat tours where you can tell that person's like Yeah they're running their set Yeah uh huh But the pedal tavern driver I've only done it once

I think we were in Nashville It was like Alexis's 40th And I don't remember him being hot But he was so funny And like really in control That whole situation he had drinks He was playing our music like I get it No there's a vibe

Yeah Yeah and it's things you need the confidence to do also There's sort of funny ones Like Nicaraguan lobster fisherman That's specific snake wrangler. Yes. Animals, like,

people that can manage wild animals. Scary animals. Digging holes in the street. The construction worker. And I thought of one of mine from my past is probably the TGI Friday's bouncer. And this is like, it's authoritarian. See, we're the same.

No, this is a whole bit that I do because most people are like security at Fridays. I'm like, that's how it used to be in Dover. But I feel like Friday. was like the hottest ticket when we were younger. When I was like a kid and I would like, like Fridays was the pinnacle of adulthood. Totally. Like I would be like all I want to do in life is like go work at an ad agency or at a magazine and like put on my day to night outfit. Turn my pencil skirt into happy hour vibes and then go drink a mudslide at Fridays.

Like I was like that is adulthood and have like an appetizer sampler. I wanted to work at Fridays. Totally. And wear those suspenders and cover the buttons. Back when they had the flare. So much flare on those. The way that those chain restaurants used to roll, like I started working at Lone Star Steakhouse

right after they stopped doing peanuts on the ground because there was lawsuits and stuff. I mean, you can't walk around with peanut shells on the ground. No, it's crazy. Actually, that used to be legal. Because I have a fear of slipping anyway. So I was like, I can work here because there's no more peanut shells on the ground. That was crazy.

That was just a thing. Yeah. You could just throw the peanut shells on the floor. And people were amped to do it, make a mess. And when I first started working there, it was still a smoking section, which is crazy to think about. I worked in a 15-seat restaurant. You could smoke in.

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See site for details. Okay. Breaking news. Break up breaking news. This really shocked me. Yeah. When did you send me the text? So I remember where I was.

You meet. I never stay up after the shows. I always go to sleep right away. I walk to the other chair and close my eyes. It was the one night I didn't do it. And thank God because me and Tessa were talking about Kristen Cavaleri and Mark as breaking up. And the news was not confirmed, and I didn't know if it would be confirmed by the time that

we recorded. I know. And her episode came out this morning as we record. So all we saw first was this People Magazine article that just says, like, a source says. And we're like, eh, is this real? And then we fired up the group chat. And then people were sending this clip that was circulating from a call her daddy live show in which she said she was single.

Like, she confirmed, like, it's fresh. And it was kind of hard to hear the audio. but you could see that she was like saying she was single, which is interesting. I mean, and of course people were like, how could Alex Cooper like put her on blast? I'm like, I'm assuming they discuss this beforehand. Who knows? Who's to say? But I mean, you have thousands of people in that room that she's breaking the news to. And I think I saw one clip where she was like, I'm not even, I haven't even talked about this in my podcast yet. And she was like, I'll be talk. She says it on on stage. Like I'll be talking about it on Tuesday. And so I was like, Tuesday. It's on.

So I just got done listening to the episode. And yeah, they broke up. They were, what, together seven months. And this was, if you guys don't really know, I mean, Kristen Cavalieri, obviously, you know, reality show star, Laguna Beach the Hills, you know, our uncommon James, all the things. Also on Dear Media. She was dating someone that was 24. She's 37, has three kids, divorced. And we've been talking about it on the show.

I was fascinated by the relationship. Yeah. I mean, we all woke up this morning and watched the podcast on YouTube. but I like the way she spoke about it. I mean, she was really vulnerable and open. It feels like, listen, she's getting soft in her old age. She cried about it. You know?

I thought that the way that she spoke about it was really complimentary to him and kind. And basically her words were just that, yes, the age became an issue. How could it not ever? His age started to show. And she wanted him to be able to experience life a little bit and have his own family and have children. And it sounds really painful. I mean, it sounds like she. made this decision for him partially. And that's a really tough decision to make when you really

care about somebody who love them. Yeah. So I love the way she spoke about it. I think that everything she's saying is true. But what I think happened, if I were to guess, is that I think she realized he wasn't the one. I think the newness wore off. I've listened to her podcast about him and the one with him and I think she was so enamored by him, his looks, the way he treated her. It sounded like she hadn't been treated like that before, which is great. This guy has set the bar for her now and the way she wants to be treated and prioritized and respected. And I think she was so blinded by new love and lust. And I think that wore off and she was able to view the relationship in a realistic light and realize these things because she did speak about being all in on him.

She spoke about a future with him. The way she's been talking is like, that's the one. I can see myself marrying him, having another kid with him. She was all in on this guy. I don't think that this is someone she thought was her soulmate, was the one for her, and she had to set him free. And it was this tortured decision. I think that it is the most common thing in the world to be so in life.

love and enamored with somebody at the beginning and not be able to even imagine a world in which you don't work out. And those things just start to fade over time. And then you can look at it realistically. And this is not to negate anything she said. I just think those words are hard. If I'm right, I think those words are hard to say. They're not the one. I fell out of love. So she did the right thing and everything she said is also true. Like I wasn't going to be his forever. And I want him to experience the world. And she said something which you and I, feel where like these are the saddest breakups sometimes like nothing happened no one cheated and no one lied there wasn't some big blow-up fight it was just like she I would assume she's just like that's not

my person and like I maybe I thought he was three four months ago five months ago she did sound all in on it I mean they really were talking about what it would be to have children and I think you can make different decisions in your life when you're at the time where you've already had a long marriage you have three children I don't know I think that it's easy to get in a relationship with somebody and be like, we'll see where it goes, you know? But then I think to your point, you get seven, eight, nine months in and you're like, I don't know if this has like the legs. And why would I waste somebody else's time when they should be experiencing life?

And that's just like, what happens in life? And, you know, some of the comments, people are so fucking gross. I mean, people were already in her comments before she announced it last week, just on her latest post, saying the meanest stuff, I knew it wouldn't work. What are you doing? Why do you find joy in someone's pain? You know, like, keep that to yourself. Talk shit with your friends.

why are you putting this in her comments? Like, that's just so sick. And she said on the episode today, like, I don't read the comments. And I dabbled recently, but I'm back to, like, not reading them. And it's not healthy and all that kind of stuff. But it's just like, you can be so in love with somebody and post them all over social media and say you see a future with them. And then realize that's not what you want.

And that's like, fine. And that's happened to everybody. I don't know. Like, why are people like, oh, my God, you know, like, have just their like panties and twist over this and need to be in the comments. It's like, this just happens. I don't know. The self-impressed I told you so, and I knew it.

I called it about somebody else's pain is so weird and gross to me. Yeah. What you're like, you're proud of yourself. You guessed this wouldn't work out. And by the way, she didn't do anything wrong. She didn't force this man to get a vasectomy, force him to change his entire life. She didn't stay with him for years under the guise of giving him anything.

She didn't make him do anything. And that, I think, would be a little less forgivable. I guess. But I think we all make decisions based on the relationship we're in right now and not six months from now or a year from now. And I think she really enjoyed this for seven, eight months. It didn't do anything wrong. And so to take joy in this I told you so, oh, you guessed it. It wasn't going to work out this 24 year old. Right. Something that men do all the time with dating within this age gap, which we've said before. Yes, totally. And if not, she really elevated his life, obviously. How much pussy is this guy going to get now? I mean, I think he was fine before, but. His brother's

really hot, too. I gave it his brother. What? Montana boys? No. He's another brother. He is a real brother. Oh.

I never know. Who is his real brother? It's just sexy. Our friend said Alyssa, Amaroso, who we love, said something like a man would never make this statement. And I thought that was a great take. Like, since when have men ever even talked about robbing women of their years, you know, or like, I just didn't, I wanted to experience life. And I'm sure some men do feel like that.

There's like great men in the world. But it's just we haven't really seen this. We don't really see it and hear it in the media. And it's just like, I think of all the men out there dating women who want children who are in their 30s and the man doesn't know and the man doesn't want kids and knows he doesn't want to marry her and still robs her of years of her life. You know what I mean? And it's just, I think this really speaks to like Christians and women's emotional maturity and like seeing a relationship for what it is. You know what I mean? And so I just, we were talking about that in the group chat this morning of just like a man would never. And that's not to say that they wouldn't, but we just haven't really seen it. I like that she acknowledged that, like, like people, that she really launched this early on and people were like, what are you going to do if you break up? And she was like, I'll deal with it then. And I like that she acknowledges that.

She doesn't feel like she's egg on her face for doing that, you know? Like, what a ridiculous thing. She acknowledges it and she's going to keep it moving. I, exactly. That's just life. She's in a new house. She opened that episode up. There was 10 minutes about the new house.

The way I fast, I couldn't fast forward quicker. She really did eight minutes on some gas leak. I was like, sis, you should have, no one's listening to this. Everyone's like, where's the breakup? I went forward so fast. I think it starts at like nine minutes. I know. Oh, I know.

You were like, I fast forwarded throughout. I was like, oh, thank God somebody told me. I need a statement for Mark. It's not going to be anything else. Mark can't talk. What's Mark going to say? Tess, did she find this brother? Looking for him.

Almost there. How did you even find him in the first? She sent him to me. I said him in the group chat. It was a while ago. Oh, it's a while back. Mark Estes' brother. I mean, there's nothing interesting about him necessarily.

He's just sexy. Cade S does. Oh, yeah. Kate. What does it? Cade. You got to look up. Is he in the Montana? Does I bring this over here.

Okay. Cade. Cade. Oh, he's hot. He's so hot. We'll scroll down. Then he does some things that we'll give you the heck. Like a vote for Trump.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. But like his pin photos. He knows what he's doing. That's what he's doing. Okay. Thanks. Okay.

Well, we wish her all the best. I have loved how she's hands. handled this from day one, the way she speaks about it, she doesn't give a fuck. Yep. You know, I like when someone's just honest. Let's be honest. Yeah. She leaned into her joy.

She's being honest about her parents. And she's like, we broke up. It happens. Okay. All right. Nobody wants this. All right. We're going to thank one more of our partners and then we're going to talk about

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And saying, like, is this about you? Did they contact you about this? So anyway, this is a show on Netflix. It is about two sisters who have a sex podcast. And the one sister played by Kristen Bell is agnostic. and she falls for this rabbi. Played by Adam Brody. Played by Adam Brody.

So that's the gist. Anyway, just letting you guys know. I'm sure you know about it. Everybody's talking about it. But we have DMs, emails, texts. Like people are going crazy about it. And I don't know. I mean, I guess it's kind of similar.

Well, I thought it was similar. And then I started reading about Aaron Foster, who's the creator of the show. And it is very much based on her life. She has a podcast with her sister, Sarah Foster. They are the daughters of Dave. David Foster formerly married to Yulanda Hadid and he was, I could do a whole podcast but Sarah Foster and Aaron Foster, they have a podcast.

They were the creative director as Bumble. They started a favorite daughter. But she, Aaron Foster, is married to a Jewish man and it really is their story. And the dynamics between the sisters is very similar between the sisters. Have you watched their podcast? They bicker. Yeah. So, and I was telling you, I was like, do people know this was created by Aaron Foster?

Do people know who Aaron Foster is? I mean, I'm sure half of the people listening to and half don't. And I followed her for years and I love their clothing brand. Like you said, favorite daughter. And the sister thing is interesting because I, the sister was so mean to me. But I don't have a sister. And I know that's different people's dynamics. And everybody has like a threshold for that type of thing.

Like people think we're mean to each other sometimes. You know, like when we're just joking or roasting each other and like roasting each other is our love language. We've said that before. And some people don't like get our dynamic. But to me, this was like high level. Like I don't get it. Like I don't, I couldn't have a family member treat me like that. But like I, her sister showed up for her.

She was there for her. They're best friends. Like, I don't understand it. And I'm happy to admit I'm outside of the sister. Why don't I'm a sister? I mean, I didn't understand it. It was the one dynamic in the show I didn't really. Yeah.

I didn't love. I mean, it adds like a richness to the plot. It's just like another dynamic relationship dynamic. I didn't really understand what she was just like so mean to her continuously all the time. It was all the time. Like there was no balance of supporting her. her. Like there was never being happy for her. It was all just, you're going to fuck this up.

Judgment. Yes. Yeah. And like mocking her. I don't know. It just, it wasn't a balance. Like you kind of think sisters are supposed to build each other up. I mean, the one thing I will say, though, she was just always there. She showed up. She, you know, got those women to come around and she showed up to the bummed. So, I mean, you guys, if you watch the show, these are going to be like spoilers and we're to talk about the show. But that was kind of the thing. It's like, no matter what, she's like, her ride or die still. She went out the first night with the four of them, you know. So anyway, I just, we wanted to talk about the sister dynamic and that that was based on

Aaron Foster's love story and I loved reading that. And Aaron Foster's story is that she did convert. And, you know, if you see it in the show, that hasn't happened yet. But who's to say? Because it definitely ends on like a cliffhanger. So I thought it was really interesting. And I was sort of thinking like this whole time like, how are they going to choose to end this?

because he is essentially the junior rabbi Adam Birdie's character and he wants to be the head rabbi that is his lifelong dream and his family's pretty religious and the person he was going to propose to as a Jewish girl and then he starts dating this like non-Jew who's like you said agnostic and so I really was like how are they going to wrap this up? Like I really did not know until the very end like what they were going to choose. And spoilers ahead, I do want to discuss how they chose to sort of like end this.

There was also a lot of talk about like how, mean his family was to her and how judgmental and how they portrayed like Jewish mothers essentially. And I just want to like stick up for the Jews on this one that I, yes, I think that they portrayed Jewish people as a little naggy and neurotic, but we are. And also I think that any parent that sees their child live their whole life for this dream and somebody blows in that's going to derail their lifelong dreams, any parent of any religion is going to have a problem with that, whether your child is an athlete or a podcast or whatever it is. So I think that they maybe took it like a little far, but I like the dynamic with the mom.

It made me laugh. I thought it was interesting. I don't think anybody's going to love that this is happening. They're not going to respect it. Yeah, it's outside of my realm. I can't imagine my family caring who I date or like, again, this is outside of my scope of life. So watching it, you're just like, ooh, this is crazy. But like I understand.

Like I can obviously think critically about it. The scene at the mom's house is I laughed out loud. continuously. The prosciutto out of the trash right now I couldn't stop laughing like when she had to pretend she brought it out of the trash I was laughing out laughed that's seen she's just this iconic character my favorite character on the show is Sasha's wife

I think she's such a bitch she's such a bitch Esther she is just she says so many things without saying anything she is just like yes her facial expression and just like I don't know these all I thought it was a very funny portrayal of Jewish people and I know that Jewish people are very sensitive to being portrayed in a certain way. And I certainly understand this. We don't need

anybody else making us look any worse in the world. But I took it with a grain of salt. I thought it was lighthearted and funny and cute. People were like, well, Esther was so mean to Kristen Bell, Joanna's character. And it's like, that's just mean girl shit. I don't think that's about being Jewish. I mean, I think it also made the Jewish religion look really cool. And I love like how she was embracing some of the traditions. And I thought about this for myself. Would I convert? Like, probably, I mean, if I'm a perfect candidate for it, I don't have strong religious views. I mean, I'm agnostic as well. I grew up, you know, Christian and now my parents are Unitarian and, you know, but they would even hold some of their services in a synagogue. They're running space.

I mean, you know, that's a different type of religion. That's like all encompassing and like very, like, who's to say? Like, there's a higher power. But like, you know, I have a lot of problems with, like, religion and the way that people fight about it and all think that they're right. But for the right person, I probably would. But it's just to me, this timing was interesting. Like, and we're talking about a, I mean, sort of fictional show, but like, again, based on the creator's life. But it's weird because it's like, well, he's going to go down the road with her still. But like, the conflict is like, she needs to kind of tell him if she's willing to do it for them to get more serious. But it's still too soon to like do that. You know, it's still crazy soon to

put in all that work. I feel like I need six months. with somebody and then be like, okay, do you think this is my person? I don't know that it's just an interesting of like, but you have to tell me or we can't go further down the road. And she's like, but I don't know because I don't know this is going to last. So the ending, and again, spoilers, you guys get mad when I spoil stuff. I didn't really know what they're going to do. And essentially very early on in the relationship, like you said, he does say, I need to know if you're going to convert. She does say I will convert. And then she kind of backs down on it. And I think, rightfully so. I think that's a huge decision to make very, very early on. She says, I love you. And then

And the show ends with him saying, like, I can't have both. And it sort of seems as though he is choosing her. I was trying to put myself in the position of somebody saying to me, like, you have to give up everything you've worked for. Like, if there was some scenario in the world where I had to, like, give up girls got to eat forever, like, it still wouldn't affect me as deeply as every single person in my community. I'd have to turn my back on them.

My family, my parents, my friends, my religion, my relationship with God. Like, that's the biggest thing to ever ask of a person. and I can't even like relate to what that must mean. Yeah. So I, this article on Netflix, this is Netflix like to dumb. I think that's what they're like blog or whatever. And it says, Brody told them that his interpretation of the ending is that Noah is telling Joanne, I put you first.

Everything else will work itself out, but I'm saying that you are my priority, which is a romantic notion, but it's easier said than done. In the light of day, will he still feel that way? I don't know. Brody adds. And it's an open question. Should the series continue? I think that's what the show can explore.

What should he do? What should she do? what version of sacrifice is worth it, what constitutes growth, or what constitutes dimming yourself to be with someone else. It's a sacrifice, but ideally you grow together and you're better for it. You don't have to lob off a limb and short time will tell. Obviously, they left it open for a second season. The thing that really got me is that she's going to represent that church no matter what. I mean, you and I are podcasters. I wouldn't call our podcast a sex podcast right now. It's more like dating relationship and of course sex. But relatable enough. We talk about sex. We have a sex toy line.

And, you know, like, that's my thing. Like, when Rebecca really says to her, like, in that moment, like, you're, it hits her that she's going to represent this temple. Sorry, Farina corrected me. I always say church. And one time I said Jewish church, she was like, that's not a thing, Ashley. So represent this community. Yeah.

As the head rabbi's wife, like, it's less about converting at that point. It's like, let's do the work. We'll do the program. We'll get in it. We'll embrace it. But, like, I, how can I do what I do for a living and also, this. Like that's, that hit me too. This brought a lot of questions for me. Would I convert for somebody and like, would I trust, quote unquote, like, would I be able to like trust the advice of a rabbi that was

married to a non-Jew? And I feel like the Jewish religion is really open. We don't, the Jews in general do not have such a huge problem with gay people. We think sex is a misphab. We think sex is a beautiful thing and you're supposed to have a lot of it. And there's not, it's not a religion that's rooted in shame and guilt. And so it is a very open-minded religion. That being said, the leader of it, I still think should be with a person who can lead the temple and do Sunday school with kids and things like that. And really has like ingrained themselves in the community. I agree. Like, again, he's not just a normal Jewish guy. He's the rabbi. Also, converting to Judaism is it's a big deal. It's not just a little six-week program. No, it's about three years. You have to learn Hebrew.

they say that you're closer to God than even the regular Jews. You have to learn every tradition. You have to go to so many services. And it's a really, really long, intensive process. And so it's not just something you could just do. And I don't know that I would convert for somebody. Like, I really don't believe in a religion so much so that I can't imagine learning a new religion and leaning into it.

I hear you. You know, it comes back to Charlotte and Harry from Sex and the City, like, or being like, I converted for you. You know what I mean? And the undertone of that, like, again, that wasn't fair to say to Harry in that moment. But it was kind of like, what have you done for me? You know, she was like, I converted to Judaism for you. Like, fucking proposed to me.

You know, like, I don't know. There's kind of like, I've dedicated years of my life to this thing for you. I hope it's worth it. Totally. What a lot of people are focusing on, too, was just how he accepted her and, like, made her feel like she wasn't too much. Obviously, she does the same type of thing that you and I do. We talk about our personal lives and talk about sex.

and were these empowered independent women, and it didn't scare him off at all. And he was so sure from her from the beginning. And it made me emotional because I have found someone like that, but also just like that was, I don't want to say a fear. But like, Rayne and I have thought about that for years of like, is someone going to be cool with this? Like totally, not like love us in spite of it,

like really like what we do and embrace us and have no issues with it. And obviously, yes, those people are out there. But that really spoke to me, too. You know, they were slutty single girls. You know, they say it. Like the slutty single sisters, you know, like that evolution too. And their relationship really, it meant a lot to me to watch that in that way. Yeah.

I love the message. I love the memes. I just, I love this show so much. I know. It's just the dialogue made sense. It's how people speak. It was just like. Totally.

It was sharp and funny. I think it was casted so well. I love it. It was a tall girl and a short girl. I know. I kept talking about it. short Chris Mbeau was. I just, I loved how it was casted. I loved it. Like, you got to learn about Judaism because I just don't think that, like, Judaism is ever highlighted in such a positive way

and that it's, like, funny and you get to see Shabbat and all these things. And I just, it was perfect. And honestly, listen, it's hard out on these streets in L.A. So if somebody was like, you should convert, I probably wouldn't do it. Right. I also just love that it was filmed in L.A. I want, like, a full list of, like, everywhere they go, because I was trying to figure out where some places were and they looked familiar, but I wasn't for sure. And then there is an amazing soundtrack. It's on Spotify. It's the official soundtrack so you guys can list of that. And we're just so excited for another season. And I want to see if they get off the couch like we did after five years. Is Sasha going to have an affair with the older sister? That's what I'm all. It's been like simmering.

I'd be so scared across Esther. Terrified. No, like what is going on with that story? That is a little too risky. I mean, he was just like, we're friends. Like I have friends. But I was like, no new friends. The very end scene when Esther is watching them, the body language, she takes a sip of his drink. You're like, this is foreshadowing. What if somebody took a sip of your husband's drink? The way I would charge across a room. Whoop your ass. I was mad watching it. Your lips touched where his lips touched? Also, Esther, I thought you were such a bad bitch. You just stood there feet planted. Get over there. I know. I thought she was going to whoop her ass. But we'll see. She seems like she'll just kill you in your sleep. Right. Honestly, it's too basic to walk across the room

and get mad. She was like, you've got to come here. This woman has ice in her veins. I love that so much. That would be me. I would need, like, you would be, I know that this, the older sister, like, I don't think either was really relate to her character too much, but there were moments where I feel like maybe I did in moments where I feel like maybe you did. And like, in that moment, I'd be like, Raina, you got to get here. People like you more than me, you know, like, which like also shouldn't be that sister. But I think I'd be like, Raina, come here and delight everyone and bring alcohol. I would do it. People like me? No, I just, I love this show so much. I can't wait for another season.

and we have a lot of really big stuff happening this week. So Real Housewives of New York is premiering this week. Real Housewives of Potomac is premiering this week. And New Love is Blind is premiering this week. Remind me guys, where are they? Oh, D.C., Washington, D.C. But they filmed in Denver, I thought. No, are we making this up?

You know, they filmed them like years. Okay. They filmed like three cities at one time. The air one that's airing is Washington, D.C. Oh, my gosh. We are so blessed with television. So we've a lot of stuff to do. Okay, well, we're going to wrap this up.

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