Girls Gotta Eat - The Snack: Chipotle Boys, TikTok Therapists, and Summer Reading

Episode Date: June 13, 2024

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about (in order): Nick Cannon wants gifts for Father's Day Sabrina Carpenter and Barry Keoghan Real Housewives drama (NJ reunion being canceled) Which reality shows Rihanna and Kim K. watch Chipotle Boys – ick or not? Therapists being Tiktok stars Summer book recs Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for tour dates, merchandise, and more. Thank you to our partners this week: AG1: Get a free one-year supply of vitamin D3K2 + five free travel packs with your first purchase at drinkAG1.com/gge. BetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at . Article: Get $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more at article.com/gge. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Snack, a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy. Thanks for coming back to our second episode of The Snack, Little Snacks. Yes, you guys are hungry. You're hungry for more. Yeah. We got some great feed back on the snack, and we're here to do it again.

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and five free travel packs with your first purchase at drinkag1.com slash GGE.e. So we have Father's Day coming up. So we have a daddy update. Yes, and we are starting with the mother of all fathers. Nick Cannon.

Doing the most, having the most. Up in the most. Old super sperm cannon. Oh, shoots them out like a cannon. Shoots him out of the canon. That's crazy. as crazy as last same can. This is a hot take. His dick is the real candy.

It's never across my mind. Yeah, it's always loaded. Oh my God. You should go into Nick Cannon comedy. Okay, so this came from page six based on an article in People Magazine. Nick Cannon wants opportunity to connect with 11 kids on

Father's Day so they can give him gifts. And his quote is, it's supposed to be a day when I get to rest and I want to get all of my kids the opportunity to connect and give me gifts, all types of stuff. He specifies he would like macaroni necklaces and construction paper cards. Come on.

How many? Then it says, it's all about arts and crafts, he said. Art and crafts. My offices are filled with great gifts that my kids have created and conjured up. You need a storage unit, Nick. What offices?

Like, can you, 11 kids macaroni necklaces, paper mache? What's the age range? Is there like a 16-year-old giving him a paper-machet macaroni necklace? At what point is Nick Cannon like, okay, it's time for real gifts? I'm not. If I'm Nick Cannon's kid, I'm not getting him a gift ever. You would 10 other kids. I never fucking get to see you.

I want you to buy me a therapy session. That's what you should buy me. Yeah. Yeah, it's Father's Day. It's like, yeah, I'm not coming to see you. And my gift to you is that I'm not going to be a stripper later in life because I didn't have a dad. Let's child to stripper. It's okay.

Tessa had a question. She was like, do you think he goes around and visits all them? Like Santa Claus. What is the process? An opposite of Santa Claus. Or are they all coming to him because he wants to rest? He's just laying there while 11 kids come over. What's the process?

Yeah, what is the process? And then do you think there's time slots? You've got to sign up on Calendly. Not the Father's Day Calendly. He's like, you've got to pick your time slot. Bree is like, I got 11 a.m. He's like, I sent you the calendar link, Bree. Just sign up on Calumbly.

Are you think there's in a big email chain? He doesn't want the mom's like crossing over. And then do you think one kid comes in there like, God, They really outdid my macaroni necklace. I know. I know. Wait, what if somebody has, like, really high-end pasta? They got it, like, Eataly.

And somebody else got, like, Ralph's pasta. Construction paper cards. Yeah. So, anyway, happy Father's Day. You guys, I don't recommend anyone having 11 children with a bunch of different moms, but, you know, to each their own. You're trying to prove. Yeah.

Six or does, five of them. One of them might be president. Okay. And then moving on to someone we just found out. is a father. Brand new daddy alert. Brand new to us. Someone I didn't know was a dad.

This was real shocking. Tessa, do you want to drop the news? Tessa just told us that this person is dad. So Barry Cogan, Sabrina Carpenter's boyfriend, is a daddy. This is brand new news to me. I had no, he's not giving I'm somebody's father.

He just like come out of a bathtub. I also love that Tessa called him Sabrina Carpenter's boyfriend. That's how he should be referenced. That's all he is. No, I'm kidding. We loved him in Saltburn. He's a great actor. And I'm sure the stands of this couple already knew this, but I did not know.

I had no idea. But he's like a controversial father. Tessa was telling us that he is like a deadbeat dad. Well, his ex has been liking comments indicating that she is raising their son alone. Okay. Didn't that happen also with Jeremy Allen White? He's also a secret dad? He's not a secret dad.

People know about this because she was a. little public about him being a little bit absentee. Can you imagine being able to be a secret father? No woman has ever had that luxury of a kid you don't know about. I mean, hot take, it's different, but it shouldn't be. A million photos of them being pregnant. I mean, you could just be out here like, no, no, no, no. The luxury of being a parent. The luxury of being a dad. Can you imagine? Okay, so people have said that he might not be the best dad. I don't know for sure. We don't, know. But I like their relationship. Everyone is so hot on Sabrina Carpenter right now. Not you. I like her. I have no. Listen, we're breaking the news right now. Ashley hates short people.

Be honest. No, I don't hate short people. And I just found this out. And Ashley was like, you snuck in. Because I was like, I'm the shortest of all the people. I prefer taller people in my circle. Listen, it probably comes back to some childhood trauma And deep down, I'm jealous of Sabrina Carpenter. No, I typically surround myself with these taller people And most of my friends aren't short. It is hysterical, you guys. When I'm on like in group photos with you and like your other two best friends with like

Corey and Kate and all three of you are so big. In my family. All of you are foot taller than me. Your whole family is a foot taller than me. It is very funny to see me in photos with everybody in your life. Yeah. So Raina slipped through the cracks because she, She does give like bigger person energy.

Like, you know what I mean? Like she, this is no shade. Like, I'm sure there's plenty of really short people out there who don't like tall people either. You know, maybe it's like a mutual disdain. No, I'm kidding. Like, you just, you covet like what you can't be. Like, I just, I can't relate to Sabrina Carpenter.

She's under five feet tall. Like, her life experience is not mine. She's also a rich, famous, hot celebrity. Oh, right. Also that, the other main differentiator between the two of you. Tessa brought something up. I like that she is dating. in her height pool.

I feel attacked on this whole episode. I was never date in my high range ever. I love it. I love that she found herself a short king. Also, like, I'm into Sabrina Carpenter. I love that she's blowing up and she seems great and everybody. I love her music and everything. And I like this couple, aside from him maybe being a deadbeat dad.

Allegedly. Do you feel like in high school, you were like, you were so tall, so you were envious of the short girls the way I wished I had flat boobs. So I never wanted to be a short girl, no offense, but like I wanted to be shorter. Shorter. Yeah. So you think you're traumatized about how tall you were in high school. I mean, I'm sort of kidding.

I just now I love my height and I obviously like embraced it, you know, past high school and whatnot. But when I see someone that small, like me, I'm just like, oh. Like me. Can I tell you, can I tell you this one time? No, Rainey, you don't. You give like taller energy. I have long legs. and I thought I had a long torso, but Ashley was like both of those things.

Can I tell you this one time? I was going to a baseball game. It was with my, I have a friend named Karen and her husband's name is Chad. Can you even believe it? And there was this guy coming to the Braves game with us. We were living in Atlanta. And they weren't like trying to set me up with him. He was just this like, whatever.

It was this super unattractive dude. Like it wasn't like that. But they were like, so-and-so is coming and he doesn't like tall girls. just he's like a phobia. I was like, cool, thanks so much for letting me know. And like, I heard later that as he was like driving up or something, we were all meeting up to go to this game, he saw me and he was like, he was like, look at that tall girl.

He said she's taller than her car. Like, ooh, that's gross. Like, like, I'm scared. She's like as tall as the car. I'm scared she could outrun me. I just thought it was the funniest thing. I thought about that guy for years. And he was like, oh my God, no, a tall woman.

She's taller than the car. And I had a pretty tall car. Taller than the car. So people don't like tall people either. Yeah, I mean, there's hate in both directions. Absolutely. No, I have no problem. I would never judge someone based on their height.

I mean, Sabrina. I think she's so cute. I love her. And again, I like that she's like, I'm going to be with the short king. Yeah. I've kind of out with so many guys lately. None of them are under six feet. But a few of them have been like six four, six five.

It's a little strange to see me five feet tall walking. into a room with a man at 6.5. It's a little jarring. Yeah, but like your ex was like 5.10. Yeah. Like your last serious relationship. You're not like exclusively dating like six feet and above. Also, it's very different. If I'm, if I'm handpicking what I want from a dating at first is meeting somebody at a bar, if a guy that's 5, 7 walked up to me,

I would consider it. See? Maybe you're prejudiced too. Again, short people. So she put him in her music video. Sabrina Carbiner is putting her man to work. And I love the music video because again, I do like Sabrina Carpenter. I want to be clear.

And it's very Bonny Clyde-esque. And people are reading into the meaning of it's called please, please, please. People are reading into this like, just don't embarrass me. And if we have kids, don't be a Debbie Dad. No, I'm just kidding. I don't know. But people are kind of reading into like the meaning of it. I think that's a really hard launch early.

I mean, they've been together since what, like, end of last year. I mean, it's a little more permanent. in an Instagram feed post making a piece of art of somebody in a music video. But I don't mind it. Put it out there. Everyone knows her together.

And if it doesn't work out, then this video is still great. And she, maybe she, that was the warning shot. It's very crispy cavalry of her. I don't care. I'm an adult and I'll deal with it. Yeah.

I'm a very small adult. I'm half an adult and I'll deal with it. Polly Pocket will deal with it. All right. So we're rooting for that miniature couple. to make it. Okay. Raina, what's next?

In Bravo News, which is the most important thing in my life. The Real Housewives of New Jersey reunion got canceled. This is unprecedented. This has been 13 or 14 seasons. They've never canceled a reunion before. But Andy Cohen has come out and spoken about it, so is Teresa Judice. And they both have kind of alluded to like the final episode.

It feels like a finale. But like if you look, look at Summerhouse and Vanderpump rules this season, their finale is where the most explosive you've ever seen, and they got reunions. People wanted them. No one's ever wanted anything more than these reunions. They're like, make it longer, run it back. Right. So

it's unheard of. It probably feels more like what's happening as these people hate each other so deeply that they're like, I'm willing to break a contract to not be in the same room as these people. I mean, how much longer can we listen to the Melissa Gorga and Teresa Judei's feud? I've been

digesting this for 10 seasons. I don't don't care. And it sort of begs the question of like are a lot of these shows sort of on the, on the down, on the down? That's the word. On the decline? That's the word. I don't, I don't hate all the down. Yeah. I used to really love the housewives franchises and I think that they are the OGs reality television. They're huge stars in their own right. I mean, they were the pioneers of this and Bravo. They walked so Summer House could run. Right. You know, so I don't think that, like, they have no viewership anymore. I think that they had way bigger viewership for way longer than a lot of these other shows.

But if you look at sort of what's happening on Bravo, and I just took a couple notes and some stats for you, in terms of, like, cast shakeups. So New Jersey canceled the reunion, Real House House of Atlanta overhauled the whole cast. Four cast members are out. Five new ones are in. What? New York, they fired the whole cast. Cancel the reunion, full reboot. And then in the Real House of the Potomac, three members of the cast have left so far since.

March. Huh. I mean, yeah, that would make you think this is on the down. On the down.

These environments are really volatile and hostile and people's marriages, just all of them. It's like a death wish for a marriage. Totally.

Or for an addiction problem, anything. Sorry, go ahead. You're the, thank you, a expert here. Unlike shows, it seems like people

really are good friends, like Summer House and Vanderpump, real housewives is kind of predicated on like, let's get these people together as an ensemble cast and like make them fight about stuff.

and there's like really extreme toxicity and not as much friendship going on behind the scenes and I think some of these people are just like, I've been doing this for eight, nine years. It's a huge paycheck, but like, I don't know, I don't think it's good for the viewers. I don't think people like it as much. I think the audience has spoken

and so they are sort of like overhauling these casts. Yeah, I mean, I think everything has an expiration date in entertainment, certain formats. And I think if you're someone who really enjoys reality TV, there are so many other different formats that you may gravitate towards. You know, I've never been a real housewives girly. Obviously, I like Summer House.

I don't want Fan or Pump if you really want to know my stance on the three. But I love Love is Blind and some other certain shows like that. So I might not speak for most people, but I do think there's a lot out there. I think Netflix entering the chat. They do really great reality TV. And so there might just be people don't want this anymore. I mean, I think also, for me, I just never really liked the fighting and the screaming. and it gave me anxiety to watch.

It's just not my vibe. And also maybe like the younger generations, like, we're not getting into that. We have enough of anxiety. We don't need to watch that shit on TV. So maybe it's not really appealing to younger people. So I don't know. I could see a world in which it's on the down.

I think that I start to sour on shows. And so do you, what it just does become all about fighting. I mean, I love selling sunset, but Christine Quinn was sort of like a sore thumb for me in the whole show. I was just like, I don't need this level of toxicity. And Real Housewives, I'm a huge stand. I'm obsessed to all those casts. I loved New Jersey and Beverly Hills and the O.C.

But like these people hate each other on such a deep level. And New Jersey, I try to get through a couple of episodes. It's just the amount of screaming. It's just like, I don't know. Is this good TV? Like these people don't seem happy. They seem like they're just attacking each other for sport. Yeah.

I agree. So, you know, we'll keep tabs on it. I had a funny thought about reality TV because I saw recently Rihanna was on the red carpet talking about how much she loves Bravo. And this clip went viral. on TikTok of this reporter interviewing her and she was like, oh, bitch, like, you don't watch the housewives, like, you should start there. And she's just this Bravo Stan. And then I was watching the Kardashians. And on the latest episode, they have Gary from the Bachelor over for

dinner and they're obsessed with The Bachelor. And then they're also talking about naked attraction, which I feel so validated because this was a show that became my whole personality when I started watching it. And I just got to thinking, like, these are the hugest stars. Like, can you imagine your housewife and you're like, Rihanna's watching this? Like, I find it so crazy when huge celebrities are watching reality TV and like you hear about it. Like can you imagine being like a person who was on naked attraction just like a rando and you're like Kim Kardashian is talking about my pussy in the group chat. You know like this is crazy.

Like when you really think about it like these are not famous people. These are like delisters a lot of times or just really unknown people if you're just a random person on a naked attraction and you're like Kim Kardashian Rihanna are like watching me. Like I don't know. Maybe this isn't a hot take. I find it crazy. I find it crazy. To know about what shows I'm watching.

Because Jennifer Lawrence came out and also was like, I'm the biggest Vanderpump stand. Right, right. Years ago before it was Scandabal Vanderpump, which I've been a day one, Stasi Vanderpump fan, all that. But for Jennifer Lawrence, the most A-list of the A-list to come forward. But then you think, like, well, these people have to watch something. Yeah, like, what are they watching?

And then it really makes you wonder why they're watching, why they like it so much. For someone like Rihanna, who was just a celebrity in every way, you know, she's a mogul, she's a social. She's a singer. Well, allegedly, we haven't had to be a singer. Now she has her hair care line. She's like everything is an expiration date, even Rihanna.

His music career. But by choice, we want more music. She's like, lip-loss. She's like, that's her escape. Bravo? What's Beyonce watching? I know, I got to know. I got to know real, though.

Let us know, you guys, in the YouTube comments. What do you think Beyonce watches? I have to know. I have to know. Rihanna's like, that's like, that's what she's watching. I don't know that she's watching really high-level stuff. she's like, I watch Bravo, bitch. Like Jared Freit says, we're all in the bell curve.

We're all in the middle of the bell. Like, Rihanna's just at the heart of it, a normal girl, even though she's the biggest mogul, Beyonce, too. Like, these people need television, too. Like, are they talking about like the ultimatum on Netflix? Yeah. Also obsessed with that show. It's crazy.

You have Gary from The Bachelor who maybe turn out not to be the best guy. He's having dinner with Chris Jenner. It's insane. It's wild. He's like, what is my life? Anyway, that was my hot take about reality TV this week. celebrities, they're just like us. And we're just going to take a quick break to tell you about AG1.

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I can't believe this is happening. This is insane. Which part? I don't want to take the story away from you, but... Okay, well, tell, okay. Let's talk about what it is and where the story comes from. No, I think first, you need to tell me that... I'll talk.

I went on a date with somebody last week who was great. I have nothing is bad to say about him as a person. He's great. Nice person. And we were talking about food and what you eat, and he told me he eats Chipotle five days a week at least for lunch. And he said he's had the same lunch five days a week for many, many years. And I was just like, okay, this is a person with like access to anything he wants.

He lives in New York. I mean, the whole world is at his feet. He's not, I mean, I haven't looked at his bank account, but he could probably afford what I've done. Yeah, yeah. You know, sandwich here and there somewhere else. I don't know. But then he said it's really important for me,

I get my macros. Not the macros. He has said macros me like three times every time. I'm like, I don't know what that means, but I'm pretty sure I don't like it. Macro nutrients is good. You're pretty sure you don't like it. In the context of the sentence, I know what it means. But like, I don't need to talk about your macros with you.

Yeah. It's not sexy. Yeah. But, you know, he told me it just, it allows him to get as much macros as he needs. It streamlines his day. He doesn't really have to think about what he's going to do or cook or eat. And of course, listen, this is the first date, so I didn't want to be a huge dick.

But the very first thing that came to mind was, can you fuck? Yes. There was no part of me. The internal monologue, Ashley, I'm walking on a bikini. I'm like, do not ask this stranger if he can fuck. It's so unlike me because my body was screaming. We don't know if he can fuck.

So we're going to get into it. But Raina tells me this. She's like, out with this guy again. She's nothing but good things to say. And she's like, he eats Chipotle five times a week. I didn't even want to tell you. Thank God you did because, 48 hours later, I'm scrolling Instagram and I see Bustle post this article,

Chipotle Boys are everywhere. You know who they are. I was like, am I dreaming? Rana just encounter one in the wild and now they're trending. I was like, I can't believe this. I feel like you broke the story. And I had so much shame surrounding it. I was like, I like this guy.

He's cool. I don't think I could admit to other people that he eats the same lunch every day. So I want to talk about it. I want to talk about if this is a red flag, but before we get into it, basically a Chipotle boy eats Chipotle five to seven times a week. And, you know, I really don't know that this really, most people were saying like this is every 18 to 28 year old man I know, but I don't even think it has that sort of age range. I think it could be anybody.

I think this guy's older than that. He's in his 40s. Yes. But it says gym boys tend to be Chipotle boys. And they quote all these different gym boys who, this guy's 41. And he says, I'm into fitness. so I like seeing what I'm eating. Gym boys tend to be Chip boys.

Tech bros, people who are counting their macros. Yes, they love that. The macro bro. I feel like it's giving finance bro. This is part of the new Midtown uniform. It's like, I'm looking for a man in finance. 6'5 blue eyes macro bowl. Chipotle bag.

Like that's part, I feel like you're seeing a guy. And again, this is very specific to New York. But finance bros are, you know, well, sort of everywhere. Not really here in L.A. People don't really do that kind of thing here. but I just feel like it's that type of guy. Like, but listen, I want to break this down because obviously it's convenient. They care about their health.

Like, I don't know that it's such a red flag that you eat the same thing every day for lunch. So like I eat a lot of similar things for breakfast for lunch, not the same thing every day. But I'm wondering, is this that bad? You know, you're the foodie of the relationship. I mean, I'm very into food too and I have a sophisticated palate. But I mean, what do you think? So food is my whole life. I worked in restaurants my entire life.

I went to culinary school. I care, like, very deeply about food. It does just initially beg the question of, like, are you just, are you comfortable with, like, the monotony of this? But I also see a side of things where people are like, I'm really busy all day, every day. I'm stuck at this office. I don't really want to think about it. I'll have dinner and breakfast and they can be creative. I want to me to give me something that I know how many macros are in it.

I know how many calories. It's healthy enough for me. It's going to film. Like, what do I care? Well, that's what I need to know is what you eat for dinner. I need to know. If you ate this every night for dinner, serial killer, not for me. Can't fuck.

One or the other. You either can't fuck your serial killer. But or both. But to me, I'm like, I do understand there's a world in which just convenience, optimization. I know those macros. And then, like, you really mix it up with dinner. But also, the person that you just painted a picture of, which I will mock for the

rest of my life, those are high performing individuals. people that are just like, I don't go to the gym every day, count my calories, I'm just on my grind, I work hard, I'm finance or tech. Those are not losers of society, but I am definitely going to guess there are losers of society that eat Chipotle seven days a week also. Totally. It doesn't go both directions. So I have a big question for you. Okay. They have a pretty good rewards program. Okay.

Ash is like, you're Jewish. I'm sure as a Jewish person, no, I'm kidding. I looked it up. You get free walk when you sign up. Okay. So I just always free walk forever? No, like I think you just get like one serving when you sign up. I got so amped on that.

So look at you go. Okay, if you meet a Chippole guy, are you, do you want him to have the rewards program or not? Like, I wrote this down. If he's like, oh, I'm part of the rewards program, so I pretty much eat for free and I get all these perks, you know, are you like, wow, like so smart and resourceful? Or are you like, mm, not rich?

Like, do you want a guy that's eating Chipotle five to seven days a week, just raw dog no rewards program or do you like a guy that's really taking advantage of the perks? Listen, two things can be true at once. So I do think, again, high performing individual, he's like, why wouldn't I save money if I could? That's how you get rich. You find ways to cut corners.

But I will also mock him ruthlessly for the rest of time. It does give me the ick a little bit. I'm like, you need a reward card. Right, like I don't want a coupon clipper as a boyfriend. That's not getting my panties wet. But like I don't hate a rewards program. Take advantage.

You can do it. Get on our rewards program. For some reason, I respect it when it's for dildos and don't respect it when it's for Chpola. Here's the thing. You can do it and I'll be like, look at my man go. He knows how to save a dollar once a year. But like, you can't tell anyone. Like, don't tell anyone ever.

That's so fun. At family dinner, you can't bring it up. Don't tell my friends. Don't tell Ashley. Right. Like, I see your man at Chipole fumbling around with his. app. I'm like, immediate ick. But I

have to, there's a couple of things I cited from some of the articles. So again, this was like the Bustle article. Did you see that Chipotle tweeted? Tweeted. I still say tweeted. I don't care. But on X, they wrote, they really clapped back to this whole thing or, I don't know, like endorsed it. And they said, boys really try one

Chipotle order at 15 and decide that's enough flavor for life. I mean, seriously. And I love this quote from the Bustle article. It really made me laugh out loud. It said, the emergence of the Chipotle boy label prompts one to reconsider what it means to be a man who eats lunch in this day and age. They really went for the jugular. They were like, lunch, ick.

I literally bet there's women out there that are like, he eats lunch, ick. Kind of. Ew, you eat lunch? Where do you get it from? It's this in this. Do you bring it to work? It's kind of an egg. You make a sandwich and umbrella.

It's like, I know you need it, but like it gives me the egg. It does not give me the egg. Umbrellas or lunch. Neither. I hate that umbrella thing. Who said that? It's on that girl. I'm not a big fan of Bobby Ray Simone.

What is it? Billy Bobby Brown. Bobby Brown. Where's Simone? Millie Bobby Brown. Ashley's like it's three words. I'm just going to pick three. Simone.

Do you know anybody named Simone? Simone Biles. Do you know anybody In my head, I'm friends with Smem Biles. Millie Bobby Brown. I'm not, whatever. I just, her interviews give me the heck, honestly.

But, you know, she's young and whatever. She's, whatever. But she said the umbrella thing. But yeah, like, I'm sure there's, she's probably also someone that's like, ew, a man, who eats lunch. I mean, I relate to it. It's not fair.

But it says in this productivity, obsessed culture, it seems that the modern state of American masculinity means choosing fast casual food due to efficiency and life-sustaining nutrients, macros, not necessarily enjoyment. It begs the question, where is their lust for life, for taste, for beauty, does it matter? For beauty.

I don't want a guy that cares about beauty in his food either. But I just think, to me, the question here is, what's he having for dinner? You know, if you really eat the same thing for lunch every day, like, it doesn't necessarily raise my right flags. I mean, I'll tell you who's also Chipotle boys, Ryan, our videographer. Love my life. And he goes an extra style. He drives his house to Chipotle. A lot of days a week.

Yeah, he lives in a van. That he gutted and built himself. It's very masculine. But he is somebody who works all day long as glued to a computer like 24-7 and then goes to the gym every day and lifts a certain amount, films himself lifting. I mean, he is the poster boy for Chipotle boys. I mean, some people eat to live. Some people live to eat. Also that.

And some people really don't want to be bothered with lunch. You know, like it's something to think about what am I going to do for lunch today. And it might be one of those things of you've gotten this routine and now you're too far in. you can't stop. I mean, they, they interviewed this Brooklyn Nets player who has had Chipotle for 10 years. He said it's too fire not to have it every single time. He told GQ Sports in December. So I do this thing. I don't know if you know I do this. I will have the same thing to eat like three days in a row. I will like hyper crave it three days in a row. But then I can't have it for a couple weeks. Like I eat, I go to Arawan and I get like their egg white frittatas or they're like super graeme fratas or whatever the fuck. I get a few of them and I like want them so bad. I eat them three days in a row. And then I'm like, oh, I can't have that.

a couple weeks. Yeah, I'm with you. I could never live like this, but people are, and that's the Chipotle Boys. Well, let us know what you guys think if you, what you feel about these Chipotle boys and if you think they can fuck, I guess. All right, we're just going to take a quick break to talk about article. You know, I'm obsessed with interior design. It's probably the thing that, like, I get the most DMs about, too, like, where did your stuff come from? And Ashley and I've been big fans of article for years. Article believes in delightful design for every home and thanks to their online-only model. They have really delightful prices as well. There's tons of stuff to choose from. So there's mid-century modern. There's coastal, industrial,

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My friend Jeremy, we talked about this for an hour yesterday. People have like some real opinions about this. So Bustle had this article. Yeah, the Washington Post has covered this and some other different outlets as well about your therapist being on TikTok. But Bustle really did this in-depth article that was titled My Therapist is a TikTok star. Your therapist doesn't have to be a star, but like even just being on it, trying to be a star, trying to go viral. You know, I think that people are on social media for different reasons, though. And I think I want to open the conversation by saying that, despite,

dispersing therapy information and educating people on certain things does a lot of good. You know, I think the people have really gotten a lot of great information by therapists being on social media, but there's mixed feelings. Yeah, and you and I've talked about there's a lot of people on TikTok and Instagram disseminating therapeutic information that are not qualified to disseminate. Yeah, like I'd rather have the licensed therapist on there. Totally. Combating the people that are just, you know, not qualified.

And you and I give relationship advice, and we've never said we are actually. actual therapist. So I think there's obviously, of course, I think there's a space in the world for people to give relationship advice that are not licensed therapists. However, I think there are people that are masquerading as somebody who does have a therapy degree that are not. So I think it's totally fine to want to disseminate this information, get a little of attention, get a book deal, grow your following, get more clients. I completely understand wanting to do it. And many, many, many of the therapists on our show have giant TikTok presences. Yeah, I really want to tread lightly. here. Everybody should have the opportunity to make the most of their career. But it begs a question

of like, why are you in this? I mean, they probably focused on people that had the more negative stance. I'm sure a lot of people don't care. They're like, what do I care? Yeah, they're trying to make a living. They're trying to get a book deal, like you said. But some people really do have a problem with it. And it got me thinking about it, which I am not in therapy right now. I've been in therapy in the past. But it just got me thinking about therapists as opposed to like regular doctors or plastic surgeons. Like, are plastic surgeon, our shared plastic surgeon, our family surgeon, Dr. Barrett is huge on social media. You know, Dr. Ofcinski, who did my rhinoplasty in Short Hills, New Jersey, he's on social

media, you know, like, I wouldn't care. You know, like, even if my primary care physician was like, can I talk about your butt crack on my TikTok? I'd be like, sure. Like, if my gyno was like, Ashley Hustadt and took the IUD like a champ, I'd be like, go off, King. You're like, I don't know. Like, it's different. Well, it's all about disclosure and boundaries, right? And like, sometimes I will say like you've gotten so huge because you are good at what you do. I found the guy. We found the guy who does, who did my breast reduction, breast augmentation because one of his, somebody in his office came to us.

But he's so huge on TikTok and Instagram because he's the best. Oh yeah. He like changed my body. Oh, yeah, Dr. of Chisky who did my nose. Like they reached out for us to work with them social media wise. Like I guess they feel very. different. It's not even the same because we're in the office with Dr. Barrett or whoever and we're posting on social. You're not doing that during your therapy sessions and they're not asking you to.

Like obviously there's privacy and HIPAA and all that stuff. And it does say that the lines are a little blurred with this stuff. And our friend who's a therapist, Louisa, who we have recommended before, she doesn't really want to do it. She's not judging people who do, but her personally, she doesn't feel comfortable really promoting her practice on social media in that way. If you communicate to your clients, I'm on social media, and your client says, like, okay, well, I would like to never see a piece of content about me, then fine. Like, everybody is a different, I was trying to Jeremy about it. He was like, under no circumstances, would I go to a therapist that's on TikTok?

On TikTok. People who said, people echoed that in the article. But I was like, Esther Perel is on TikTok. Right. The most brilliant genius in the world. But then it's like, well, where's the line? Esther Perel was a famous therapist in her own right, TED Talks and everything, long before TikTok or Instagram existed.

So does it matter? when you started. And she's also probably somebody that has a giant content team that's filming around the clock and producing reels for her. And so she probably segments off a whole day to do this kind of stuff. Like is that different than like who they featured on in this article, Therapy Jeff, who like primarily got and built a platform via TikTok? Does that make his advice any less important? Right. Good. But then there's a whole fear that they're using you for content. And it's so private. I mean, those are the most private things that you share with your therapist. That's why you're there. And I understand a world in which you're like, I want to leave your office and pretend you don't exist.

I don't want to think that you whipped out a ring light. And you're like, five ways to identify your childhood trauma. Like, it's weird. And again, like, I get it. Like someone in the article said it's like senior teacher at the grocery store. Like we want to keep this separate. Like it's not necessarily fair to the therapist. but I think people are like, I am coming in that room and sharing my deepest, darkest secrets with you.

Like, I don't like to think that you could even be thinking of how can I parlay this into social media content. I totally agree with you, but I guess it doesn't, like, bother me. I think about somebody like Vanessa Marin, who's been on this show. She's a great sex therapist. And she already had an incredible practice and probably said to herself, I have different ideas and good ideas. And I want to express them. And I want to build this brand. And I want to do sex workbooks that you can do with your partner.

and she's like putting so much good out to the world. Her website's fantastic. Totally. I think that that does so much good in the world, and it would not stop me from going to her. I'm just speaking from all the different opinions and a lot of what was echoed in the article. Like I don't think it would bother me either.

I'm just kind of like talking about the way people think about it. But you and I think differently also because we're like personal relationships to these people. Of course it doesn't bother me. But like Jeremy was like absolutely under no circumstance. Can I tell you what I think I wouldn't like? What is it? They had a different social media persona.

You know, like, I feel like it's like hearing your boyfriend's work voice. Like, you know, you're like, ew. Like you're hearing your man on a Zoom, you're like, you get the ick. Like, if they just had this really different calming demeanor and just like, really like, I don't know. Totally. Totally. Hey guys. And then they're talking to my channel.

Like and follow. Yes. And then they go on TikTok and they're like, here's how you know you're being gaslit. You know. Subscribe for more. Like, I would be like, ew. So I think if it was authentic across the board, which. the people that we know are the same.

You know, I guess, God, there's been so many. Nicole LaPera or Vanessa and Vienna-Ferrin. But also, they don't do a lot of talking to the camera stuff. I don't know. Listen, it's just personal preference. I mean, everybody's been on the show. Matthew's not a therapist. But they, a lot of the things, the things in the article,

I mean, they wouldn't need to get into HIPAA and all that. But they said there is some gray area there. But it also says that your therapist should disclose to you that they're on TikTok. That's weird too. I know, but I welcome your session. by the way I'm on TikTok. It's fucking weird. And then you're like, wait, what are you trying to tell me that you're going to use this for content?

I don't know. It's like, when you meet a guy in a bar and you're like, I have a boyfriend. He's like, I didn't ask you. It's like a little prince of shit. Yeah, they're like, I'm a TikTok. You're like, so is everybody. Yeah. We're going to be alive.

He's like, eh, I'm out. Yeah. The biggest TikToker. He spends all, there's six computers going in my house right now. He's just like doing all these different things. He's like, I'm on TikTok. But if you are, not that's the hard line. Jeremy Jacobowitz, if you guys are near on here, he's our good friend.

He's like, I would never go with a therapist on TikTok. Let me tell you why. Jeremy's like, find me on YouTube, Instagram, Twitch, Twitter. I'm on everything. Twitch. What if your therapist was a gamer? Now I'm thinking of other social media things that you don't want your therapist on. I mean, also now I'm like, oh my God.

I'm like, if my therapist didn't think that their ideas were good enough to put on social media, why am I going to you? Like, you just, you don't think the whole world should know about how far you are you I know. It's everybody's personal boundaries. I've been thinking about how different I personally feel about my medical issues and my personal private issues. I'm like, oh yeah, share them with the world. I mean, don't say my name, but you can talk about my booty hole and my pussy all you want. Like, I don't know. Your trauma. Not my trauma. Not my trauma, my relationship. You don't really have a lot of trauma, but you do a but hole problem. This is your corner of the world. This is your neighborhood. And you're like, I can speak on this. I'm just thinking about my doctor who I talked about with the whole buttcrown. thing. She has the exact voice

of that girl who does the Kardashian impressions. She talks like Courtney Kardashian and it's so funny. Can you see her like I walk out the door? She's like, you guys this client's this client's butthole.

I had to give her rectal cream. Let's pry so that a wall of fire doesn't engulf her. Like she's very I mean I got to be honest. Like at first I was like, are you smart. You know, like, it was, and I really do.

I like her. And she's, she's like a young doctor, but she definitely has that vocal fry. And it was kind of hard to take in at first. I was, like, laughing. Like, at one point, she just asked me a lot of questions about my life. And at one point, she goes, what kind of dong do you have? And I was like, this is that, those videos. I wouldn't be able to stop laughing. I've been like, I got to get out of here so I can make fun of this with Ashley. Yeah. All right. Okay. Well, therapist on TikTok. Let's close it out with Rex. I have to say, we put on Instagram. We said, like, what feedback do you guys have? What would you like to hear more of? the overwhelming thing people ask for was book wrecks.

Not like I want more Bravo or celebrity. Book wrecks. I love our audience. You guys are so smart. I know. You guys are the best. I love you so much. I know.

I think that we really want to try to be as inclusive in terms of, obviously, inclusive, inclusive, inclusivity, but in terms of what people like and their content and what they're consuming. And obviously, we can't please everybody. But it is funny because I saw a few comments that were like, I don't watch Vanderbomber. I don't watch this. like, are I going to be able to appreciate the snack?

And we're like, yeah, we hope so. We want it to be as universal as it can be. We've been talking about this for a long time, this show. I mean, plenty of shows are just a roundup of what Bravo does. And I listen to all of them. I'm obsessed with them. But we want this. Listen, I'll spend that the whole episode time up below deck if you let me.

But we do want to be more inclusive. So we are big readers. I'm a huge reader. I just finished my 17th book of the year. My goal is 30. So I'm 50% more than 50% the way through. So we wanted to recommend some summer books for you. you guys and just a couple of things that we're both reading. Okay, so I'm just going to talk about two books,

one of which I just finished and one that I'm currently reading. And these aren't like brand new or anything. We're also going to talk about the ones that are just out or coming out that we're excited to read. But I just finished a book called Just Like You by Nick Hornby. It is an age gap romance. If you're looking for that, if you're fresh off the idea of you and you want another one, it's also an interracial relationship. And it takes place during a really tumultuous political time. So 2016, So it takes place in the UK, but during Brexit, and then also Trump was right after that, you know, a few months later. So that's part of it too.

And again, there's the age gap and there's the interracial. And I'm going to give it a 7 out of 10. I didn't really totally feel the connection between the main characters. I read a few Amazon reviews that echoed what I felt. I still enjoyed the book. But the whole time I was thinking, like, I'm just not really getting it. I'm not feeling it the way I felt in other books. And I would love to see this as a movie, actually not a movie, a mini-series.

I would love to see this as a normal people. I'd love to see the characters and the way that they look and the way they interact. And two really great actors with chemistry could really bring this to life for me. And that author, actually, Nick Hornby, so many of his books have been made into movies in the first place. So I was just like, oh, this might be. That might have been the goal in the first place. So usually when I love a book so much, I don't care about it being a movie. I just want to like have it live as a book.

But this one I was like, I'd like to see it. And then I'm reading the summer of Broken Rules by K.L. Walther. This was the one that Bella recommended way back in the day. She was like, you have to read summer broken rules. It's young, but it's fun. It's a little corny, but like I'm 40 reading a book about 18-year-old, so who's the corny one? That's your mom. So it's just like a summer romance takes place in Martha's Vineyard, the main character, she's 18,

the love interest is 19. It's like there's this wedding, they're playing this game, whatever, it's cute. I mean, 7 out of 10 so far. I'm enjoying it. It's just, it's like a young summer romance. Young, like, Y, A, probably. Yeah, so that's cute. The summer broken rolls.

I've recently gotten into Emily Henry. She is like the queen of Summer Beach reads. She is fantastic. Listen, I hate to talk shit on anything a woman does. Her book covers really put me off a little bit. I wasn't sure. And then I got into the bookstore. They're great.

My two favorite of hers, Happy Place. It's about six college friends that go to the same summer house every year. Two of them are a couple and they've broken up and they've even told their friends. So they're just kind of talking about that. And the other one is called Funny Story. This girl's fiance leaves her for his best friend. and then she moves in with the girl's ex-boyfriend. Okay.

Both of them are like sold as summaries, but like gutted me. There's so much like beautiful emotion in them. They're really fun summaries. But then I was saying to you, I really have just been looking for something a little bit deeper with like maybe a little bit more like dynamic female characters. And so much of what I've read in the last couple years is like,

women, they're kind of floundering and these men swoop in and save them. And maybe they fall back in love with their high school sweetheart or their college sweetheart. And I just was looking for something a little more dynamic. So I just read Three Women by Lisa Todayo, and it's phenomenal. And all three are true stories. She follows three women. And it's a book about women's sexual desires and needs and wants. One character had an affair with her high school teacher.

One is in a long-term sexless marriage, and she's having an affair. And then the third, her and her husband have an open relationship, and they have, like, cuck-holding parties and orgies and things like that. And all three are true stories. is like the teacher that she was having an affair with, one of the characters, I mean, you can look up the case.

She sued him, took him to court. And it's just, it's just a really amazing dynamic book about what women want in terms of sex, desire, love, things like that. I have it.

I've been had it. I just need to, I think I might even start. It's a pretty famous book. Yeah, Lisa today. And then she is another book called Animal that I also have. So I'm gonna,

sometimes I'm just like, I'm gonna read this summer romance. Like, I want to dive into a book like that. And then I just, I'm like about to get on a plane. and I just grab something else that's going to be like

so much easier and lighter. I don't know. I mean, I'm trying to hit 30 books this year. Some of them are going to have to be some dumbie reads, you know? Yeah.

I love a thriller. I love anything by Taylor Jenkins read. I love Colleen Hoover. I like these, Taylor Jenkins read, I don't think they're like super easy reads. Colleen Hoover is a lot of easy reads. I love all that shit.

Yeah. So we also found this article, a bustle article. We're just like, I think this was not a source of writing by bustle. We love bustle. They did our article when we went over to Dear Media. They like got the exclusive.

So we're big bustle fans in the first place. But they had this article, the 40 most anticipated summer reads. I'm just going to throw mine out and we'll link the article. I wonder if you pick the same ones with me. I know. Let me know. The first one, seven summer weekends by Jane L. Rose, June 4th.

So it's out. There's one thing I just loved. It says Addison, a 34-year-old ad exec is expecting a promotion when she instead makes the catastrophic mistake of insulting her boss on their team's public Zoom chat. I love it. And then it goes on and there's a whole three. But that hooked me immediately. I love getting fired.

you know age like a woman in their 30s the material by Camille Bordas got it on my left comedians and like using everything for material love letters to a serial killer did you get that one? Yep it's on my list by Tasha Correale that's June 25th you know self-explanatory title love letters to a serial killer

and then there were two about body and beauty standards one was called More Please by Emma Specter and the other one was die hot with a vengeance by Sable Yonge Are those all your picks? No, I have three of yours and the only one, I shouldn't be telling you this. And it's by Chelsea Devontas, Devante.

But she's an Emmy nominated headwriter for the prom of John Stewart and it's a collection of essays. Her collection of essays, yeah, exactly. So it sounds great. And I just, I wanted to literally buy every single book on this list. We'll link the article.

We just flew through them. And one of our favorite collection of essays is a book by Dolly Alderton called Everything I Know About Love. Right? Yes. And then her other book about that, guy with her other book called Good Material. I just want to throw these out while we're here.

If we're doing bookwrecks, like three of my favorite semi-recent enough books, but obviously the idea of you, the book is so much better than the movie, you guys. We've been talking about it for years. Unreal. Seven Days in June is one of my absolute favorite books by Tia Williams. I've always said, like, if you haven't read the idea of you or seven days in June, don't talk to me until you do. And we both love both of the Dali Alderton books. And then I think by Taylor Jenkins read, Daisy Jones and The Six is my favorite book. And it was an incredible show. And I love Malibu Rising. and she wrote seven husbands of Evelyn Hugo. So very, very famous books in their own right.

So huge, huge fan of that. Check those out. Okay, so we want to end the episode of the question. What books are you guys reading? Let us know. We'll put a question slide up on Instagram. You can let us know in the YouTube comments and so other people can see as well

because as we have found, you guys are dying for book wrecks. And that completes the second episode of the snack. Hope you guys liked it. That was fun. Yeah. Girls Gotta eat.com, of course, and grab those tickets to.

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