Girls Gotta Eat - The Snack: October Theory, Hot Costumes, and Influencer Couples

Episode Date: October 17, 2024

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about: Rihanna is trick-or-treating?! Halloween costume predictions October theory Jason Tartick and Kat Stickler's breakup Analyzing influencer couples Bath and Body Works' controversial candle Love is Blind tea Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for tour dates, merchandise, and more. Thank you to our partners this week: Landrover: Explore the Range Rover Evoque at https://landroverusa.com/. Quince: Get free shipping and 365 day returns at https://quince.com/gge. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Snack, a lighter serving of Girls Got to Eat. This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy. Coming to you from New York City. Coming to you from New York City. I have been on a straight diet of pizza and burgers. I don't know how you're standing. I don't know what's going on every day.

I have to get my fix. We got burgers. Last night, we had pizza the day before. You also made me get pizza every single night on the tour after the shows. I've had pizza every night. Even I was one night in Delaware, there was randomly Domino's at my parents' house. I was like, I'll get in on that. It's been, it's my due diet.

I've had to tell her to stop. You're a foot taller than me. You can't digest food differently than I can't. But that's like what it is. When I moved here, I was like, I am eating a lot of pizza. I don't really eat pizza like that in L.A. That's why I got to get it in on the road. Yeah, a lot more walking here.

I drive one block in L.A., so I can work that pizza off a little bit more. We're so excited to be here and record from here. Yeah. Well, let's thank a couple of our partners, and then we'll jump right in. Thanks to Quince. Get free shipping and 365 day returns at Quince. slash g-g and thank you to land rover explore the range rover evoke at land rover usa.com okay you want to introduce

our report so we're going to kick it off with the Halloween report and we have a few different things we know Halloween is next week but we want to get ahead of it we want you guys to be prepared we're prepared for what's to come we're getting our outfits together yes do you want to hit us with our first headline yes it is Rihanna's Halloween plans L did this article Rihanna shares her some Halloween plans with her sons, Rizza, and Riot. So she's going to go trick-treating. She says she's going to go trick-or-treating. And they were like, no, you're not. She was like, no, I am. What if Rihanna knocked on your door? And then what if you were dressed as Rihanna? Like, what if you were dressed in Rihanna? A lot of people do the, like, pregnant Rihanna

Super Bowl. Yeah, no, totally, of course. There's so many different Rihanna's you could do. That's the best one, I think. Like, big red, like. If you have like an old Britney, oops, I did it again, cause you turn that shit around. Yeah, blow it up. be Rihanna. But I just, what if you were dressed as Rihanna and Rihanna knocks on the door? I feel like this is probably, and she's like, trick or treat. This probably doesn't surprise people like in Hollywood, right? Like if you walk around like Beverly Hills, like probably celebrities are like Halloween,

they're like trick-treating with their kids. But like nowhere else in the world. That's the only place where I would like open up the door in like my Beverly Hills mansion. If like Beyonce was on my doorstep, I'd be like, what, that's what's up. I have no concept. I don't know where Rihanna lives. She doesn't feel like a real person to me. Like, I don't know where.

I never have known where she lives. Like, if I open the door and Taylor Swift was there, I'd be like, that's what. Of course you're here. We saw her everywhere. In Soho the other, like, she's a normal. Like, Rihanna's a different level. Where does she live? Like, where are they trick or treating?

I actually go somewhere super obscure. She just goes to like Columbus, Ohio. No, that is where she should go. Because then they never think it was her. They'd be like, that's so weird. This woman showed up. She looked like Rihanna. Okay, don't you also feel like people in New York and L.A.

would, like, play it off like it wasn't cool. like oh i think they'd think it was cool but i'm saying if she think it was cool but ohio like lexington kentucky no one would they'd be like that was just this nice lady with their sons you know what i forget is that like children of celebrities don't get that experience really but that's why she's trying to do it i think she's like i want to do some normal things with my kids and then she was like i'm going to bake cookies i'm going to make these ghost cookies and she was like that i feel like i've really conquered Halloween Yeah, but like I think it's like an amazing to do for your children.

Like blue Ivy is not trigger treating. We don't know. You don't know. Do you think Northwest is trigger treating? Yeah, for sure. Did you read that article that she interviewed, Kim interviewed her? She interviewed Kim interviewed her? I don't know.

You know, I don't. You can't get into it. You know, I'm not in Northwest. You know, I love Kim. I can't with North. You can't get into North. I'm not into her. Well, she's 50% Kanye.

So it's okay. So anyway, if you guys see Rihanna on your doorstep on Halloween, let us know. If you don't let us know, it'll be so. So what if we just don't find out? This better be like national. I do want to know where she's trigger trading. And if you live in the vicinity, 50 miles, just to make sure you got your costumes, your music.

Like, I want, like, I'll be playing the anti-album all night just in case she shows up. Do you think that Rihanna is going to dress up as Rihanna? Like, who does Rihanna dress up as? I don't know. Like, what would she be? DCC. Something. Okay, well, that leads us into our Halloween costumes.

Rihanna as a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader. It was the first thing that came to mind. I think she'd look good in the outfit. I was thinking, like, who could wear that outfit? So we want to talk about Halloween costume predictions. You want to ping pong some back and forth. Yeah. I'm sure we're going to have some of the same.

We do Halloween shows. We're doing them this year. We'll see you in Portland and Philly. There's some tickets left for both of those. So dress up, come. We are not doing any of these costumes. We're branching out. Ashley picked our costumes this year, and I like them.

You weren't speaking up. And I was like, here's my ideas. She sent me a bullet-pointed list. I woke up one morning. And I was like, I guess we're doing one of these. I haven't offered anything. Okay. So, oh, yeah.

So very high up on my list is DCC. However, so Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, because the documentary was so big this year. But I don't know who could wear that outfit, I guess, little kids. I think plenty of people can wear it. I can't. Okay. I can't be comfortable in that outfit. But I think that that'll be a big one this year.

It'll be huge. Yeah. Yeah. So like Raina said, our shows are next weekend in Portland and Philly. And I'm sure we're going to see some of. of it. I would dress like the coach. Just resting bitch face, bleach blonde hair. You and I should have been them. No, we don't support them. Nancy. Kelly. She's giving Nancy. Nancy and Kelly is the same name. Yeah. Okay. So I think there is going to be a resurgence of mean girls costumes because of the musical

this year. So I think there's always mean girls. But I think because the musical was this year, I do see more of it. That was one of the things I pitched to you. But what I pitched to you was Raina could be Regina George and I would be her mom. I actually pitched me a lot of couples' costumes were very funny. This is one of my favorites that you'd say. So I think it'd be so fun to be Mrs. George. And so originally it was Amy Poehler who played her and she was like shorter, which and with big tits, that's your vibe.

But then Busy Phillips played her in the musical, which I feel like is taller energy. So I feel like I could get into it. But I think it'd be so funny to be Regina's mom. I would love to just wear a Juicy Couture sweatsuit. Yeah, exactly. I love to just be comfy. Yeah. Okay.

I wonder if you had this on your list. Okay. Moodang. I do not have it on my list. And I literally talk about Moodang every day. I was like, that actually scoops me on this one. It's your whole personality. Wait, now I'm thinking of that.

I want Rihanna to be that. Moodang? That's how she hides who she is. She's in a fat suit. She's like, give me my Super Bowl soup, but make it gray and slippery. Slippery. Yeah. I feel like you need to oil it up.

You know, like he looks. It's slippery. It's a girl. I don't know. I can't be expected to know that. When people is Paul Mudang, a boy, and also she's brothers. Okay, anyway. So, Moodang's 15 minutes are nowhere even close to being up.

I can't believe we're still talking about this hippo. Every day here about Moodang. But you're into it. My fiancé is super into it. He watches the webcam, and we talk about Moodang a lot. I know. And we use a lot of puns with Moodang. Okay, hear me out.

And this is your fiancé's joke, but like, what have you, went as moo dang and I went as Jew dang. No, I'm boo dang. Tessa can be boo-dang. And I'm just an engaged person. I'm this boo-dang. No, we say it all the time. I think you should be moo, Tessa should be boo, and I'll be Jew.

Okay. Or Poo-Dang. Who's, you could just be like, you know. I'm trying to think who on our team is like that. We say, we talk about it all the time. And you know, like, one of our long time, like, girls got to eat sayings is what doing. Like, it's a, if you've been here, you know, but he's, he'll text me what dang so now we always say what time we talk about mudank actually i didn't tell you

what i was so drunk on sunday after our show i texted him what doing guy yeah i figured you did i was yeah i was at the bar that we met at otherwise i wouldn't have even thought of it jared and i were out but thank god he was i don't know in some stupor he couldn't come out okay so mudang and judang that's what we're doing yeah okay what's your next prediction okay i just think definitely cowboy carter oh interesting I think any cowgirl type thing, but like specifically Beyonce's cowgirl era, like I'm just thinking of all the outfits you could could wear. I mean, you could wear like the album cover outfit. You could do like the chaps. Like last year I did Beyonce and I did an outfit from the Renaissance tour, like the hand, the jumpsuit with the hands on it, which I would, I'm just not.

I can't just do Beyonce every year. I can't just stand and simp that hard for her. But this would be a fun year. Yeah, but we have the Western tour coming up after Halloween. Okay. So November are all three shows. And we're going to do Westernware for all three shows in November. So we'll get it back.

Okay. Who's next for you? I think Beetlejuice is going to have a big resurgence. I think Lydia. I think Beetlejuice. We saw some Beetlejuice wedding dresses at our wedding themed show. So I think that red wedding dress is going to be big this year. And I love it.

That was my favorite show or favorite movie. Favorite movie? Hands down. I wanted to watch it every day. Me too. Chapel Roan. That was number one on my list. Okay.

And I just, I think in general, Chaparone, Sabrina Carpenter. And, you know, we talked a lot of. about me doing Sabrina Carpenter, I didn't think she had like an iconic enough look, except for the bodysuit with the heart cut out. Okay. I like that. I've seen more things that I think you could wear and people would instantly know what it is. If I bejeweled my microphone.

Right. And then Taylor and Travis, people are going to do whatever versions of that they're going to do. I'm trying to think of if I were going to do Taylor Swift. People are really big right now on the snake bag that she wore out to Teresa. They're thinking that it's like a nod to the reputation album. You know, people like to decode every single thing. And I'm like, that would be so nerdy if that was true. But like it probably is.

She does stuff like that. She's always been, she's always got like an Easter egg hiding somewhere. I like, I just think it's so funny because all of her outfits, you could pick so many. Like when I think of Taylor Swift, I'm not even thinking Erez Tor. I'm thinking like I'd wear an outfit she wore to a Chiefs game. That's exactly what I would know. Like I might do denim her little slutty Canadian tuxedo with the high red boots. And like, you'd know.

That's it. Yep. You know. Get a blonde. wig with bangs. Make it look bad. Get an ugly plaid skirt and a crop. I like that skirt. I do. I hated it last year. Yeah, she wore that plaid skirt from Ramey Brooke. And I feel like that.

Like put them on the map. I'm sure they were, you know. I've been shopping them for years, actually. Yeah. I like their stuff. Yeah. So that would be an easy one to do. But yeah, those are my main predictions. Okay. I'll round out my list. I also have, I think they'll be the nod to the Olympics. Simone Biles. Olympics, yes. So I pitched Olympics to you. Oh, yeah, you did. Yeah. Okay.

Car me from the bear. But I think people have done this. It's not going to be the newest thing, but I think people are always doing the yes chef there. And little Bridgeton sprinkled in. Okay. That's my whole list. Okay. When I pitched Olympians to you, I was like, I don't know what, but something.

Wait. A pommel horse guy. Do you remember my dad, like, a month ago texted me? I just saw that guy's dick hit the, hit the bar when he bolted over it. And I was like, why are you watching this now? I would love to be that guy, actually. I think I'd be big dick. Pol Walter. I think that would be the most iconic costume. Just like stuff. What would you make the dick out of?

Just like a big sock. And then I would just carry a pole. Okay. And wear just like a little singlet. I think that be so funny. If you guys, if you are, if you dress up as any of these costumes, you have to let us know, just tag us. Wait, I love that one. I want to be that. It's really good. I have a wrestling singlet. I look cute and wrestling singlet. Yeah. To walk around the huge dick. I'm telling you, I think it'd be fun to feel like a guy with like a big dick for a night. You know, I'd probably be acting super creepy. I would just stroke it while we were on stage. I can't be trusted. I would be so inappropriate.

I never stop touching my boobs. I spend all my, if I had a dick, oh, my God, I'd be so weird about it. No, you'd be that weird guy that's always touching his dick. Yeah. You know, everyone knows that guy. Mm-hmm. You know. Okay.

So that kind of leads us into October, which October theory is something that's trending currently. Yeah. So, which I'm just like, all right. Listen, we broke this story. But it's just another, like, TikTok thing that people want to rebrand. It's fine. I think it's, I like to talk about it.

But I do feel like October is not necessarily a hot take in terms of what they're talking about. But, you know, you want to stick a name on it. It's going to go viral. I think that's great. So I've been in these streets about October for years. I mean, they copied me. You've been in October. Literally.

I, nobody even knew about October before my name. Nobody was talking about this. It's just, I feel like TikTok ripped me off. And now there's, like, 36 million posts about it. It's like, just credit me, you guys, hashtag Raina. Okay. So the October theory, it's basically that it's common to make major changes in the fall and that it's sort of like a mini January where people are like, oh my God, I made all of these resolutions previously and now I have 90 days left of the year and like, what am I going to do now? And so people are going back to

the resolution list. And if your list was either find a partner or end my relationship so I can find a better one, all these different things. People like have lean into this now. It's like a fresh start month. I mean, there's a seasonal change too. I do think it's like being energized with the change of the season, with like the Chris fall air. And you're back in the swing of things since summer. I do think people fuck off in the summer, ourselves included, as much as we can. Honestly. And then September, you got to get back into it. So you're actually like back in it. And you think about your goals. And then you're like, I got to get some shit done before the holidays. Because once Thanksgiving hits, it's game over for the year. No. It's like you're one. It's like you're one.

month between summer and the holidays. No, seriously, because, like, Labor Day is still technically September and then November is Thanksgiving. Like, you have one month to hit it. No, we really. And then he comes like January and you're like, it's winter. Well, then you're like now. There's a one week with resolutions.

But yes. So I'm saying like, if people were like, I wanted to accomplish things this year. October. October. Because in May and June, they're like, but it's a summer. And then you come back in reality hits. And then you have those 10 days in January. We're like, I'm going to work really hard.

And then it's just. like dark out and cold and you're like, it's winter. No one can expect me to do anything. I'll start my workout routine in April when it's almost summer. And then it's May and then it's summer. April, I think people do stuff in April. Yeah, yeah. But then May, you're like, I'll check back in in September.

Exactly. And then, I mean, there's the cuffing season of it all. And we've always talked about, again, October being this time right before the holidays where you might want to find somebody and get. get cuffed up and snuggle up when it's cold out in some parts of the country, not where we live, and have that or you want to break it off with somebody before the holidays. Definitely. That can make your relationship more serious if you're spending the holidays with somebody.

Yeah, you don't want to take people home to your family. You don't want to explain what the relationship is. Yeah. It's shitter get off the pot month. Yes, exactly. For May. So we mentioned last week about breakups and there was a lot of breakup speculation. And really only one of the things that we were thinking about last week.

turned out to be true. So that is Katzickler and Jason Tartick. And did Tessa bring this to our attention? I think so. Okay. Tessa broke the news to us. And if you guys don't know, I mean, Jason Tardick was a guest on our show. That's his main credit.

No, I'm kidding. But he has been on our show. He was on The Bachelor. And, I mean, he's just in that world. Engaged to Caitlin Bristow. They were together for years. Yes. They're both friend of show.

Yeah. We love them both. And then him and Caitlin Bristow broke up. And we've talked about them before on the snack. And then he started dating this influencer, TikToker named Kat Stickler, who people love and everybody who was really supporting their relationship. And they really went hard on their relationship.

They launched that relationship. They collabed the post. They went really big. All their content was together. They did a lot of ads together. I mean, they went so big influencer couple. They did a lot of collabs also with Alex and John,

who were on our show last week. And it was just a huge hard launch. And I want to say late April, early May. And so as of October, they've been broken up. So they went really big and loud. What, this has been a seven-month relationship? Yeah, I mean, probably they met. I mean, who knows?

I mean, the real timeline in the world is different than obviously the online timeline, but probably around like March or April last year. Okay. Yeah. Okay. This really surprised me. Big time. I think sometimes people want to say things.

they think they have like a hot take about the more perfect a relationship looks on the outside, the worse it is on the inside. And I don't really agree with that. You know, I think people are plenty of times in happy relationships and they just want to scream it from the mount tops and they want to post about it and they're actually like that. And I also think no relationship is as perfect as it seems on the internet. So there is that too. But I don't know. I genuinely think they were really happy in love for a moment in time for sure. I don't think it was like, for show. No, at all. There's definitely those relationships. I mean, that does ring true for a lot of people that you see these like really happy, amazing over the top moments and you're like, I know them and they

hate each other. There is that, yeah. It didn't seem like that with them. I mean, they genuinely seemed really happy. I mean, I do think you get a lot of gas out of promoting your relationship online. You get a lot of brand deals and a lot of followers. His followers definitely exploded. But I mean, to me, it just seems like, you know, she's a single mom. She lives in Florida. She's a, very young daughter and he doesn't live there. And it might just be like we cared about each other, but like she has to stay in Florida with her child and he's not going to move there. And that's what adults do. They like evaluate the situation. And they're like, this doesn't have legs. Yeah. I don't know. I understand like getting all wrapped up in like the business of it all,

the influencer, the likes and the popularity and the numbers growing and the following growing and making money and being an influencer couple. I mean, and I really liked when we talked to Alex and John about it a couple weeks ago, like, this is our business. Like, we made a successful career out of it.

So I don't know what happened on the inside of their relationship when it came to that kind of stuff. We talked about Caitlin and Jason breaking up and it sounded as though Jason wants to be an influencer, which is not a dig. That's fine. Plenty of people do. But she thought she was getting into relationship with like a finance guy who didn't really care,

which is like, well, he was on The Bachelor, so he cared a little bit. And then he turned into like a podcast or influencer. And so I don't know. Like, I really like him. Like, he came on our show and we had a great time with him. But, like, that is not the type of relationship I want to be in. You know what I mean? Is someone that really cares about that.

And who knows if that played into it? We've heard, like, rumor swirling that he was wanting to do a lot of that. He was wanting to create moments, you know? And I don't know if that had anything to do with it because she's an influencer too. So who's to say? I think it's really tempting to want to do those type of things. Because you're like, I'm in love and I can monetize this. That's crazy.

Like, if your partner was also a public figure, like I think about how much engagement your engagement post got on your feed. And he was also an influencer too on top of that. Like you guys could monetize the shit out of this. People love love. I mean, I watched Jason and Kat. I'm like, I want that. Yeah.

That looks like the happiest, most in love couple. She is so delightful and smiley and cute. And you're like, she's just like her daughter loves him. They're posting stuff with her daughter like running towards me at the airport. And you're like, I want that. And I want to follow this. And yeah, take all my money too. Like people get really swept up in it.

I understand being like entranced by it wanting to do that. Totally. I just, you know, I wonder if that played a part at all. You know, if she was like maybe this isn't what I want as like a mother. I don't, I'm just speculating and talking about the rumors. I do not know. But, you know, it is. I think about that sometimes.

Like, the type of engagement that my content gets with my fiancé, like, he wants no part of being an influencer. Don't get a twisted. Like, but I think a lot of women might be like, I'm going to do more with this. Fuck yeah. Get my bag. But I don't want to. Yeah.

So, you know, maybe I'd be more successful if I did. But he doesn't want to. I don't want to, you know, it's just, I think it's interesting because some couples, and I'm not saying any judgment, sit down and they're like, let's make this into a business. And they do. Yeah. And then they get to like have untraditional jobs and flexible schedules and travel the world and make a bunch of money. Like that is a lot of people's dream and I'm not knocking it. Oh, it's most people's dream. When you were talking to Alex and John, they were like, we have to go to Rome after this. We actually have to go to a stylist appointment to get outfits and then we're going to go

to Rome together. Like that sounds awesome and you get to do that with your best friend. But at what point is it at the expense of the relationship? And I'm not talking about Kat and Jason now. I'm kind of just talking big picture. Like at what point is it like we are manufacturing our moments for likes and shares? Like we are taking what maybe started out as like a pure genuine love and we're turning it into content to the point where it feels like we're acting and this isn't real anymore and we can't have like a real moment without thinking how can we put this on the internet? To each their own, you should get your bag.

But like I do always think about like what was the behind the scenes of and like this setting up the camera and okay I'm gonna run to you and you're gonna smile and you're gonna smile and you're gonna turn me and you like you do it and then you stop and you're like okay well I didn't like the angle that my body was at so like let's do it again and somebody who does this kind of a lot is Daniel Bernstein of We Were What and she's done this with her last couple relationships and I always notice she she's not with people that are influencers either like this are just like regular guys and she's just like okay I'm gonna run towards you and pick and they look like these beautiful moments but I'm

like you manufactured all this. You set a camera up to film this very intimate moment between you and your partner. Yeah. And I don't know that we're, again, it's like I try to tiptoe around it because I don't want to judge how people choose to make a living and what they want to do in their relationship. That's their business. But yeah, Alex and John, they're doing funny sketches. They're not taking their real moments and their love and being like, let's recreate it

and make people think it was in the moment. And it's so funny because I see things like that. And I think it's nice because people love love. and they want to, it's the same reason people, like, listen to certain songs or watch rom-coms or all that stuff. It's like, now that stuff is just on social media platforms, but it's crazy what you said. Like, I'm, like, internally cringing to think about being like, let's redo that, and then let's watch it back and, like, let's edit it and let's put on the... Yeah. And it appears as though it's this really intimate special moment and nothing could be

less true than filming it. You know, like, let's rewatch this and reshoot this. Yeah. And then... And of course, like, you know, I like, I like that they didn't do like a joint post, to be honest, and like collab it for this like five-month relationship. But I like what they both said. And she, Kat was like, you know, I understand that people feel like you owe them this information because you were in a relationship on the internet. People do feel like that.

And especially that the top hierarchy of that is like influencer couple. Yeah. If you break up, like, I'm going to need to know. Yeah. You know, like I feel like everybody else people really feel like they're owed an explanation about celebrities and their breakups. and you're not, and you're never owed an information, but an influencer couple that has monetized their relationship has sort of signed up for this type of life. Yeah, you can do whatever you want.

You can withhold whatever information you want. We say this all the time, but if you are profiting off of the public being invested in your relationship, in your weight loss journey, whatever it may be, and then you just stop sharing, people are going to be pissed. And they're going to be like, this is crazy. Like I gave you my time, my money to being invested. And it's just over with no explanation. And again, you can do whatever you want. It's your life.

You don't have to share, but you have to understand that people may lose interest, may stop following. Have a problem with it? Yeah. So I agree. You don't owe anybody anything, but you're not a private individual. You were a public figure and you've profited off of it. I also think, though, like what the truth in any breakup could be damaging to somebody,

and that's not nice. You know what I mean? Like, if you had a nice relationship with somebody and you cared a lot about them and the real reason you wanted to break up with them would come across mean or negative or make them look bad, I also understand not wanting to share that. So you have to be more vague. I've been vague on this show about relationships. ending because like I don't I don't need to make somebody look bad yeah exactly like if if the end of the day is it

just didn't work out and I care about that person and I wish them the best I don't need to like dig the knife in with like really private information that's damning to them yeah yeah yeah okay we're just going to talk about a couple of our partners I am going to tell you guys about the range rover evoke so this is a stunning SUV we love it we see it all the time got to trade my car Yeah, exactly. We both train our cars tomorrow to get one of these. We absolutely love the Ranger of Revoke's this elegant SUV, sophisticated design, advanced technology, premium materials, and we just love, we love the clean lines, we love the way it looks. I think anyone who drives one has amazing taste. Excellent taste. We're all judging on what cars people buy. People can

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Like someone made a real choice. There were other options to make something look like a snowflake. Right. I mean, they didn't have to look like that. Okay, yes, exactly. I'm thinking of like the snowflakes we would make in school and they'd hang them in your classroom. Like they had a more like scalloped edge. Like these look crazy.

It looks like they look like a clan mating on this candle. Like it's the point it had the white ghost face, which she'd, just the two eyes sticking out. I mean, there were other options, you guys, for how to make a doily, like all of them. Yes. And Bath and Body Works says, they got in trouble before. They did some appropriation during Black History Month. Like, they need to hire a DEI officer, like, stat. Like, what is going on? Like, we know you guys are popular in the 90s, but you got to get with the times. And I always think about decisions like this, like how these things get passed through. because I think that a lot of companies in all areas of business have like a bunch of dusty white men at the top

and that making weird decisions. But I'm like, no one flagged this. Or did some like intern think it and was like, I'm not going to say anything. That would be crazy to be like, you guys, the Christmas candle looks like the KKK. It's like what? Confirmation bias. Is that what it is? Like everybody else says yes. Someone else. Yes. That's the term I'm trying to think of. Okay. So you know what I think is like so funny? Because you and I talk about this. It's like, okay, when you launch a product, any product, there's, probably eight or nine people in a room for the, for a company this size. Yeah. You and I run a sex toy business and it's me and you and maybe three to four other people on a team call when we launch a new product.

And then we get on with our marketing team and like they weigh in on stuff, our email people, our social people. Like a lot of people weigh in on a new product in our are relatively small company compared to bed, bath and beyond. And like, to let this slip and then what if you were the spokesperson that had to give a statement about this, Bath and Body Berks, we are committed to listening to our teams and customers committed to fixing any mistakes we've made. We apologize to anyone we've off. We've offended and are swiftly working to have this item removed, blah, blah, blah. It's like a boilerplate apology. But like, how did this happen?

No, and it's, you know what's so crazy is that I'm looking at the candle? And like, even if I didn't think KKK initially, I'd still be like, this candle looks pretty whack. Like, you guys, this looks bad. This isn't giving snowflake. It's just so wild. It doesn't look like a doily. I mean, it looks like aliens. I'm going KKK first.

aliens second. Yeah. So again, they took them off the shelves. They made a statement. They did the right thing. Diet Prada posted, damn, Bath and Body Works really gave new meaning to white Christmas. Which is just like so ridiculous. But I'm also like, is this a PR stunt?

Because when are they in the news? Okay, so here's the thing. Like people are always like, how did this get through? So Zara, you know, you've seen like all the ads for Zara. And it's like they can't take a picture of any of the clothing that actually looks like the clothing. Oh my God. There's a model just like huddled up into a ball and they're like by this chair in a field backwards.

Bazaar is like, ha, ha, ha, none of you can stop talking about this. I know. It is a PR sign. With anything like this, can we not sit around a room and be like, does anything, does anyone see anything that looks problematic? Totally. Like, there should be a committee to do that. Yeah. It should just be a bunch of woke 23-year-olds and they should just be like, this is problematic.

That's the committee. That's the committee. And then you're welcome to have just like a standard millennial that's. It's going to be like, that's a reach and we're going to keep going to. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Because they will reach and then someone's going to be like, we hear you and we appreciate it, but we're going to keep moving forward. But like they definitely would have flagged the glandal.

Oh my God. Okay. And you know, Ashley and I's favorite show is Love is Blind. We promise we're not going to recap every single episode. Yeah. But there was some larger themes happening in the show. This season has been really crazy. And I would like to walk back something I said last week.

I said I don't care about any of these people. I care a lot. Yes. You really turn a corner. I care a lot because this has been some of the craziest behavior we've ever seen. So many people sort of professing to be a certain way in the pods and are totally different people on the outside world. How do people, it's giving clandle.

How do you think you're going to get away with this stuff? Like, how do you think you're going to get away with it? Like, in today's climate? You know what I mean? Like, how do you think you're going to have three kids and be able to lie and say they were just sperm babies? those are your children, sir. And sorry, I'm jumping ahead, but we're talking about Tyler and Ashley, who he told her he had three kids.

And I think he thought he really nailed it with the lie. And he was like, I was just a sperm donor. And then the mother has come out. And then the kids. And they're like, that's our dad. Right? So allegedly, Tyler had dozens of pictures of the kids on his Instagram and archived them right before going on the show. And so there's a million pictures out there in the world of him with these children.

How did you think you were going to hide this from sweet, beautiful Ashley? Ashley's, I'm obsessed with her. I'm obsessed with it. The three biggest bombshells of this season, we did not get to watch. So the fight with Tim and Alex in Mexico. Which is kind of like that now, that pales in comparison now. But she puts her hand in his face. Allegedly, we don't get to see that.

We don't get to see Ashley finding out that Tyler has three kids. And then we don't get to see Stephen and Monica when she finds the sex. So all three of these, what is the Love is Blind production crew doing? How do we miss? Sleeping on the job. How did we miss this? Right. I thought we're filming around the clock.

I thought this is Big Brother, Love is Blind Edition. Right. What are we doing? So we don't see Tyler, we don't see Ashley finding out about the kids. We see the aftermouth. And I actually thought that the conversation was really mature. And I thought she was as calm as one can be. She's wonderful.

But she's also still under the impression. These are sperm donor babies. I mean, is that the case? No. I don't, I think these are his kids. I think that's, I mean, I hope I'm not mistaken. I mean, they are his kids. But I think he lied about his level of involvement.

in their lives. No, but like it's one thing to donate sperm and be like, I'm helping somebody who can't have children, just like an egg donor and be like, I'm not going to be in their life. And also having kids that you're not in their life. I don't know. I mean, I thought it came out that like that was a lie. And the woman has come out and been like, that's an insane insult. Like, he just spent Christmas with them. So my, what? Like, that's crazy to call your real kids. Like, oh, I just donate some sperm. I don't know them. I mean, that is the case. I mean, if you, that's, that's my dad too. Like, that's everybody.

It's your dad. Yeah. Like, Lee also donated to her, but he was also your dad. You know? Yeah. That's been really interesting on this season. I mean, I think bigger picture, and there was this tweet that I sent you, you up posted it. It is not their original idea, but you up posted it.

Love is actually a show about how dangerous it is to fall in love with someone's words before their actions can back them up. And I think it's really interesting. Like, in these pods, you're telling somebody. either who you think you are or you would like to be. And how many of us think that we're a certain way, but when we're in the outside world and there's all these other factors of how busy you are with work

and there's friends that are causing problems in your life and family and strife and day-to-day issues that, like, you all could be the best versions of ourselves, literally, literally in a box, you're in a box. Literally. No cell phone, no social media, no nothing. In a vacuum, truly. Yes.

Like you are existing in a vacuum. If you want to look thoughtful, you can tell a producer to bring in flowers. You don't have to go out and get them. You just have to tell someone, can you set this dinner up? And then someone thinks you're this thoughtful, sweet person. Like, it's so crazy. Like, that's why the show is bullshit. Granted, people have lasted out of it.

They got lucky and they found a good match for them. But I love that tweet and I've been thinking about it. I'm like, the number one thing in a relationship is your actions. and showing up for somebody and doing what you say you're going to do. And you could pretend to be anybody talking to someone behind a wall. So it is actually so crazy to get engaged to somebody who's never actually shown you who they are in the world. But again, we love the show. It's our favorite show.

Tyler is somebody, him and Ashley, had so many conversations about religion and God. And what is more godly and religious than taking care of your children in the appropriate way? He's out of praying. Oh, my gosh, doesn't find out about those kids. every night he's like, well, please pray with me that you don't find out about these three kids. Like, God help me.

Like, you can say that you are anyway in the world and that doesn't make it the case. And I mean, I think you saw that with like, Hannah thinks that she picked Travis Kelsey inside the pods and she picked just an average dude that lives his parents as a real estate agent. Yeah. She cannot stop being annoyed about it.

Yeah, she's, I mean, she's pretty insufferable, but she's dealing with somebody who she thinks is a lot less mature than her in a number of ways. I have to say, I mean, the last, the block of episodes that we've watched as we record this are all the ones with the parents. And I love her and Nick's parents. Obviously, Nick's parents are so lovely.

Like, they're so wonderful. So we're Hannah's parents. Hannah's parents acted like they'd never seen her in a relationship. And they were shocked. Like, they were like, our daughter is a naggy bitch. Like, they were like, are you going to chill out? Have you ever had a boyfriend? Like, they were like, this is not how to act, girlfriend.

Like, I feel like her mom was like, oh my God. Her mom was like, you're brat. No, like this is not how you, is this how what you think it's like to be a partner? Like, this is pretty tough to see. What are you doing? Are you 26? Why are you acting like this? Shouldn't you be more chill and fun and just having, being flirty, having sex?

Like, I feel like her parents were appalled at seeing her bringing somebody around. It's like they'd never seen her like in that relationship. And then Marissa's mom. Well, I want to back up that. So I'm a little bit of a hand of apologists. some of the time and here's why because I think she thought that she maybe picked somebody else and she the way she speaks about herself whether true and I is that she's been on her own since she was 18 and she's been paying all of her bills and she's just like she needs a partner that's

more like type A and on top of their shit has been in the world longer and I think that like anything else is going to manifest a lot of irritation in her and that's what her parents are seeing they're like you're this is not how you treat a person yeah I get they're just not a good match it's like she's I mean they're going to I'm sure they're going to break up but it's just, it's, it's tough to watch any woman act like that. And like, this is what I do and this is how we do it. And it's my way or the highway. And I'm a bad bitch.

Like, if you were saying to your partner, it's my way or the highway, that's, that's a miss for me personally. Like, but this guy wants to be someone's bitch and he wants to be bossed around, I guess. So, but I couldn't agree less on her. You and I very much disagree on Hannah. And I don't, even her brother is like, she's mean, man. Yeah. So I think she'll grow up.

I think that she'll learn that. this is not, that you catch more like bees with honey. Yes. Like I like the sentiment of sitting down with your partner and saying, who's going to take out the trash, who does chores, who walks the dog, who pays the bills. I just met you five minutes ago. I want to talk about these things that people would talk about before they get married. But the tone was like, tell me right now, tell me right now, tell me right now,

interview style, resume. And like, no one would respond kindly to that. Well, and it's not empowering someone to be an adult. It's just like, you know, berating them and telling them the, worthless and it's just not for me but I made a note that like Marissa's mom that was the wildest mom we've seen yet she made Jasmine's mom look like Carol Brady I mean she like we thought Jasmine's mom was bad from the UK that was that was I mean my butthole was was clenched the whole time she was on the screen like I was just like tense I was like it is

tough to watch I find it interesting every season with people's families meeting the partners and some people being unkind to the partner as though that person has done anything wrong, except for participate in an experiment that your child also participated in and chose your child. Take it on your kid. Yeah. Like, I understand walking into this and being like, this is fucking stupid. And I've known your father for 30 years.

That's what a real relationship is. We dated. And like, I think what my mom would like have that take of like, this is a little bit stupid. You're dragging me into this. But like, to be unkind to a person just based on the fact that they participated in this thing with your child is so wild to me. Yeah. But I'm offering.

this, by the way. Just the birth control stuff, the way he's treated her when she speaks about the military. It's like, dude, you knew she was in the military. What are we doing here? You know, the judgment. He's just like this far left liberal feminist that all of a sudden is like, well, I'm not wearing condoms. I'm like, oh, well, well, well, we want to be a feminist until it affects our sexual pleasure. Can't get a vasectomy. Is that not on the table? Like, I am furious about it. This is the prime example of somebody who can pretend to be a certain way or act a certain way in the pods and say, I love women.

I think that gender is a construct. I think sexuality is something that you're bored. I mean, all the things that you want, hyper-liberal ideas about gender, sexuality, being fluid. And then he gets out into the real world. He's like, oh, but if anything you think affects my ability to come, whoa, whoa, that I no longer care about you at all and your rights. Which I don't, I'm not saying he's like faking it. Like I think he really has those like beliefs and values on some level, but it's just like when it comes down to it.

I'm sorry if you really felt this way you'd be the first one in line to get a vasectomy. They're reversible. That's the mentality of that far left liberal guy that claims to be a feminist. Yes. It's not. I'm not wearing condoms if you don't want to get on birth control. It's an, he has an extreme rigidity to everything. Like when he met with her friends and he's so against the military and what it means to be in the military.

And I understand some of the things that people say about the military. he's like you killed people. But she wasn't killed in the military. She was always in the military. All of a sudden, you're anti-military? Like, again, I really like the way she speaks about it. I feel like, we don't want to go down this road,

but I just have to say it. Like, she's not, I like, I like her growth of coming out of it and being like, I really disagree with a lot of things I had to do. I would never go back, you know, but I still support our troops and they're risking their lives, all that stuff. Like, but he's anti-military. All of a sudden, you knew she had a whole career in the military. Her whole life.

Why did you pick her? Her family and her. Like, her family are military. people she did this for seven or eight years you picked a person that does these things but like i think it's it's fun and it's light and you're drinking you're in the pod you get into the real world and you're like oh we don't see things the same way so i'm just going to like hammer you and your friends about it yeah really like very strange and unkind um i cannot with him i'm cutting those braids off in the night i don't understand it is it a clip in or is it real is it a rat

what i mean i think he grew those little rat tails the two rat tails on the side of his head i can't really in the side on the side can you can you imagine somebody like putting it in your place and you're like, I'm so sorry. I just, I can't take you seriously with two side rat tails. If you want to have a serious conversation with me, we're going to have to cut those off. Can you imagine somebody is judging your life choices with that haircut? I'm sorry, I just, I can't take you seriously. I caught a glimpse of the two tails swinging in the wind over this al dente pasta. And then, uh, big a shock, I guess, um, also is that Monica and Stephen, listen, I will say,

Stephen did drop some hints. And he was talking about fucking, like, macaroni and cheese. And she's like, you, that sounds like you've done that. He was talking about, like, pegging. And since this has come out, basically, she found out that he allegedly went to this sleep test, whether or not he went. He says that he did, that he was sexting this girl,

all these kinks. And he's come out and said, like, I don't like that I'm being kinkshamed. And it's like, no one is kinkshaming you. You were cheating. You were cheating on her. Like, yeah. I like that when he's just like, I'm going to lean into this.

It's like somebody saying like, it's just, it's, it's using mental health and choices that you have as an excuse for bad behavior. And it's like, no one cares what your king's hard. Yeah, it's not about that. You want to fuck a bowl of mac and cheese. You get on it. Okay, you want to get pegged, do it. But don't cheat on somebody to do it.

Yeah. So that was like a big bomb that got dropped too. I mean, we'll see what happens in this next chunk of episode. I'm still loving it. We'll talk about it when that happens. But yeah, so that happened. And then Stephen Moniker just no longer. I mean, that's it for them.

She was on Nick Files' podcast. She said there will be another conversation, I think. Right. Okay, right. They're not just going to take them out of the show. I mean, I'm really, like, it's just Garrett and Taylor left for me. That's the only couple I feel like I'm standing at this point. I'm just doing a holiday people at this point where seven seasons in think that they're

going to go on national television and this stuff isn't going to come out. That, like, you have a family. But so, I mean, that's the thing. What do you think you're getting out of this? Like, it is crazy to think that you can lie about your children for what? You're not going to get fame and fortune anymore. Like, haven't you, like, looked at the other contestants that have been on this show? There are some that have been able to make a living, but not really. Guys, that one guy came out. He was like, I live in my car now. You know, like, I quit my job to go on this dumb fucking show. Not dumb. It's a favorite show.

And, like, I don't have a job anymore. Like, this is not this golden ticket. So, that's what I find so fascinating is that people risk it all. We were talking to, I was talking to a good friend of mine who lives in Dallas, and I'm not going to say who, but one of the guys on the show broke up with her friend out of nowhere, you know, like they were in a relationship and he went on the show, didn't really say anything. You know, like people risk a lot to go on this without guarantee of what it's going to do for their life. I just think it's kind of wild. It's wild. And then you're going to be a villain and you're still not going to get famous. Well, being a villain is not going to help you get famous either. Like the people that

everyone stands or like Lauren and Cameron who have like stood the test of time they're not problematic. The internet is going to win. If you have all these like secrets in the bank, like people are going to find out these sleuths on TikTok are going to find out in five seconds. And like, you're not going to benefit from this in any way. Yeah. All right. Well, until next week. Until next week. Exactly. All right. Well, hope you guys enjoyed and get your Halloween costumes in order and we if you're coming to our Halloween shows those are going to be next weekend on the 24th and 26 we'll see you there that's it we can't wait well happy Halloween shopping you guys all right and you can get tickets to the shows at girls got to eat.com again we can't wait to see you guys at all

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