Girls Gotta Eat - The Snack: Phillies Karen, VMAs, and Unknown Number
Episode Date: September 11, 2025Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about: Spit-Gate at the Eagles vs. Cowboys game Phillies Karen Man getting stuck on the American flag ... VMA highlights (Mariah, Gaga, Sabrina, etc.) The insane Unknown Number documentary Headlines: Luigi x Shein, Tr*mp's bday card to Epst*in, new hot celeb couples Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Function Health: Our first 1000 listeners get a $100 credit toward their membership at https://functionhealth.com/GGE or use code GGE100. Saks Fifth Avenue: Head to Saks Fifth Avenue or saks.com for inspiring ways to elevate your personal style. Bilt: Get points by paying rent at https://joinbilt.com/gge. Skims: Get our favorite bras and underwear at https://skims.com/gge. Live Conscious: Get 15% off at https://liveconscious.com with code GGE. Addyi: Learn more at https://addyi.com/. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I hate a Monday off. I feel so behind. I don't want it. What do you even mind? Like you and I will fly home like in an inconvenient time on a Sunday night. Just we're back on Monday.
I always like to be home on a Sunday as early as possible.
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I'm so excited for our report this week.
Okay.
We have a sports report.
Sports are back.
Sports are back.
Steelers and the Eagles won this week.
I love to see it.
We won with our geriatric quarterback.
Aaron Rogers, I'm not calling 41 geriatric, but in quarterback language.
It's geriatric in sports and in getting married.
I am a geriatric bride, and I'm proud.
It's just like he's a geriatric quarterback.
We'll see how it goes.
What, my wedding?
No.
The season.
I always forget he's the quarterback.
No, he's new.
Like, oh, oh, right.
He was the Jets quarterback.
Oh, God.
Yeah, I don't, you know, I just keep up with one team and one team only.
It's enough.
One is enough.
I mean, you said you were jealous and you have a right to be.
Jalen Hertz is the hottest man alive?
Alive?
Yes, in the league, but also just alive.
Who voted that?
Everybody knows this.
Every time he speaks, I have to change my underwear.
Well, a lot of stuff happened in sports this week, specifically in Philly.
Okay.
So, yeah, so it really is Philly themed.
We didn't plan it like that.
But we're going to kick it off with Spitgate.
So this was the season opener of the NFL.
We talked about it on Monday's episode.
The Eagles played the Cowboys.
Obviously, the Eagles won the Super Bowl last year, so they're going to kick it off.
I could not wait for this game.
Raina.
I was so hype for it.
I was like ready.
and I was sat for it. Boys to Men sings the national anthem.
Rob Mack from Always Sunny introduces the team.
All this stuff is happening.
And all of a sudden, Jalen Carter is ejected from the game.
Six seconds into the game.
I said, what game?
Six seconds.
The game has not started.
But this happened before the game even started.
Like, the game was not going.
He's ejected from the game.
I got whiplash.
I was like, what just happened?
So we'll tell you guys what happened.
This is really unprecedented in sports.
That's why we're talking about it.
You don't have to be a sports fan.
This is crazy.
This is a really crazy thing.
Yeah.
So Dak Prescott, the quarterback of Dallas.
I guess spit.
We didn't see that till later.
Okay.
They like ran tape later.
All we see is Dak Prescott talking shit to Jalen Carter, who is the Eagles
defensive tackle.
One of the best defensive players in the league, by the way.
So for him to just be out beginning of the game, just suck the life out of the stadium.
But these are both really famous.
seasoned long time professional players.
So, Dak Prescott pops off at him.
He spits on him.
I couldn't believe it.
He spit on the quarterback.
It's so crazy.
And he walked off, kind of like, I know I'm out.
And that's fine.
I know he's apologized since, and he probably is obviously so embarrassed and ashamed
and hates that he did that to his team.
But the look on his face was like he deserved it.
And then later they run tape and Dak Prescott had spit
towards him.
Like there was other people around
and he spit and then I'm assuming it was like
did you spit at me and then he got
in his face and then he spit on him.
I was texting like my brother
and Corey like what are we
watching? This is
unprecedented in sports. It does not happen.
This is not like a year one
player. This guy understands sports
and you don't see this and Dak
Prescott played it off in such a
weird way too. He was like, I just spit. I just spit all the time. I just be spitting.
And also sounds not true. I be spitting bars. You know me. I just be spinning. Sometimes it should
be like that. You know, I got a wet mouth and I'm just out here spitting. Sorry, Jalen. You know what it is.
Also, your mama. Like, what did Dak say? Like, I, he was like, your mom, your mom knows how to
spit. Your mom be spitting when she goes down on me. Like, what did Dak Pross got say to him?
I was like, I have to know. I'm dying. And you don't see this. This is the first game.
of the NFL season.
This is a Super Bowl winning team.
These are professionals at the highest level.
It was a wild game.
Obviously, the Eagles pulled off a win,
but then there was a weather delay for an hour.
People on the East Coast, three in the morning,
the game ended.
Like, I was talking to Corey.
She was like, I'm still up.
My kids went to bed so many hours ago.
Like, the game got delayed.
Like, the game was delayed for an hour.
I took a shower, a blue jar on my hair.
What I would give to know what Jalen Carter said to him to be like,
I don't care.
He had to have known he was going to be ejected from the game.
This isn't like,
maybe I'll be allowed to play.
Why?
I don't know.
I fuck your mom.
It's unprecedented.
Like you said,
like,
who's to say?
Is it in the rule book?
You can't be spent on people?
Yeah,
it's unsupportspancy.
They don't even let you,
like, dance in the end zone anymore.
Like, well,
people do it and then they just take the fine.
You know, I begin to find every game.
And then, so Michael Jordan was at the game.
Yeah, that's the price you pay.
Michael Jordan was at the game.
Oh.
Like the goat and Jalen Hurts.
after he scored, he did a like shrug, like a Michael Jordan shrug, like a tribute to him.
And they asked him about it in the press conference and he talked about it.
And I got so horny, just listened to him, talk.
But whatever, they finally play the tape.
And then all of Philly, who by the way was like, this was classless and were embarrassed.
Like, you know, Philly is going to ride for their players.
But they were like, that's out of pocket.
And then Philly turned into Daxbit first.
I think a billboard went out Dax bit first.
He did.
He fucking started it.
Started this shit.
And then you had to finish it.
you fuck around and you find out.
That's what's Philly's.
So my favorite thing was, of course, there's memes and everyone, I swear to God,
like the memes took a minute to surface because I think people were like, what just literally
happened.
So it was a jump scare to me, honestly the level of Will Smith slapping Chris Rock.
You're like, what?
I just watch.
I'll never forget where I was with your mom and your brother and your sister-in-law in
your brother's living room.
And all of us were like, what have I just witnessed?
You are so accurate.
Like, Jalen Carter spitting on Dak Prescott is so comparable to Will Smith slapping Chris Rock where you're stunned.
Like, okay, Will Smith has spent years hearing people talk shit on him and his wife.
He has a 30, 40, 50 year career.
It's the same thing with professional sports players.
Like, I'm sure that they talk shit to each other all the time.
Like, I'm going to fuck your mom after this game.
Like, you've got to have some self-restraint.
So there was a lot of.
a response once people finally digested
what had happened, but Jason Kelsey
tweeted out, I mean, everyone knows you don't
spit, you swallow, obvi.
In these unprecedented
times, he came up with a blowjob joke
and said, fucking send it out.
He's the comedian we all need. New Heights, put it
on their feed.
They grid posted it before the game
was over. I was like, okay.
Put him in. I want him to do the commentary
for every football game. I want
low-key blowjob jokes every week. Jason
Kelsey in that moment was so happy. He was
retired because he would have thought of it if he was in the sidelines, but he wouldn't have been
able to get it out.
He was like, this is the best part of retirement.
Football is so, like, low-key sexual.
Just all these guys just, like, laying all over each other, just like tackling each other
to the ground, touching each other's butts and stuff.
Like, there should be more innuendos like this.
I know.
Jason Kelsey for commissioner of the NFL.
We haven't talked about spitting in people's mouths in a while.
I feel like that was a real COVID talking point.
Like, I feel like we were always, obviously, we have a podcast where we're talking about
sex.
Like, I feel like spitting in mouths.
I was doing crowdwork and stuff.
stand up about it.
Like, we haven't touched it in quite a while.
So it was good to have a spit gate.
Well, I mean, it got really big for us when that guy spit in my mouth.
Well, you were patient zero.
That guy who worked at a bar called felons choked me and spit my mouth.
That guy hated women.
He fingered my butt hole and never asked if it was okay.
Well, he was from Tampa.
It's not from fucking Tampa.
Which brings us to the next part of the sports report because it did happen in Florida
appropriately.
Oh, it did?
Yeah.
So it was the Phillies.
the Marlins in Miami. The very next night after Spitgate, home run Karen Gate. So the Philly's
centerfielder Harrison Bader hit a home run. It goes up in the stands and a bunch of people
try to get the ball. And this, I went to a baseball game Sunday. Like this always happens. There's a bunch of
people around unless there's one clear person. And so this woman with like two different color hair
looking like a true crewella Karen tries to get the ball. This man kind of comes from the end of his
row and he came in and he got the ball and he brings it back to his son and she goes up and she
kind of accosts him he looks like a real bitch he clenches up and he looks really frightened and
she she did touch him i mean a stranger comes you aren't expecting it you're going to react
physically but anyway he he did give her the ball he was classy about it he was like i'm not
going to fight with this woman he gives her the ball they're on the cam like they're on the you know
cold play kiss camp no they're on the jumbotron so the whole stadium is seen this they're booing
and afterwards the Marlins came and gave him a goodie bag, the kid,
and then after the game, Harrison Bader met with the family.
They gave him a signed bat.
Since then, this camper company has come out.
I think they gave him a free camper and tickets to the World Series.
Oh, my God.
So this kid is totally made out.
Totally.
This is the best thing that ever happened in his life now,
and everyone has come for her.
Obviously, I mean, we agree.
She seems like the worst.
But, I mean, in her defense, she was just acting in a course.
wardens with Florida.
No ruder than anyone else in Miami.
Absolutely nice.
We love Miami, but
Ruta's city in America.
Per the stats.
I am going to, I will say, I do think it was her
ball.
Raina.
Let me finish my thought.
All right.
Let me finish my thought.
Objectively, it did go to where her
and her husband were.
It went directly there.
And that guy came from the other side of the row.
However, I do think
if a parent wants something for their
child, it defaults to the child.
Bad lady, I mean, maybe she's the biggest super fan that ever lived, and she's the biggest
fan of that, that baseball player.
They went to Florida.
They're all fans.
If you're there for the most part.
Optically, watching where the ball landed, it was hers.
And he came from the other end of the road and get that ball from her.
It's weird to steal something from a kid.
Yeah, so she's in the wrong in how she reacted.
And she should have known better.
That's not how you act.
But I had that thought, too.
Like, is it appropriate to run all?
all the way down your aisle.
But, I mean, there was a clear pathway.
It's not like he took people out on the way.
I see your point, but you never take it from a fucking kid.
Like, she should have seen that kid and been like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
So the U.S. Open CEO, basically there was a hat.
He snatched it straight out of this kid's hand.
It was crazy to see it.
That guy had to fly to that kid's house and apologize to him.
It was wild.
That is so clearly unfair.
But I don't know.
It is to be able to me who's this was.
And she also could have run down there after that guy.
thinking he took it and then realized it was for a kid.
I do think that is a more normal reaction.
Like she could have been,
this is not in defense of her.
I'm just playing out like a kind of a normal human interaction
of someone who may be a little bit of a hot head,
a Philly person.
Now they're in Florida.
They're even amped up even more.
They've been in Miami airport.
Everyone's on FaceTime in public.
They're like, I can be rude as I want.
So, and then, yes, you run down there and you're like,
I'm going to fucking get into it, very Philly.
And then you're like, oh, no, there's a kid.
I got it back off.
like you don't take the ball then yeah it's really weird it's really crazy and so everybody's
dragging her and you know kfc from bar still did a great thing on this which i respect and it's like
there's never any reason to docks people to threaten their lives over something like this like
she's the punishment's fitting the crime this lady cannot show her face in public she's been
dragged all over the internet can't show that haircut public right she's got to get she's got to go
into witness protection change her hair like the punishment is fit the crime like she can't show her
face in her community. Like, let's not try to show up to her house and ruin her life. Like, save that
energy for actual abusers, I don't know, ICE agents who were masked and out here, like, terrorizing
the community. You know, so it's just, I hate that we take it too far. It's like, this is why we can't
have nice, funny things, because people have to take it too far and start sending death threats.
It reminds me of Scandival on Bravo, and then every other show tried to have their like Scandival moment.
And I feel like we're all chasing that high of the Coldplay CEO
with like the U.S. Open CEO and that guy, I think that guy's a dick.
But do I think he had to like board a flight and fly down where that kid lives and do all this?
I don't know.
People really went after that company pretty hard.
And it affects the livelihood of the people in that company that work there, not just that person.
Yeah.
I just think when these things go public, people behaving badly, that's the punishment.
let's enjoy it, let's talk our shit,
and just know that they can't show their face at the target for a while,
in their town.
She's got to get a whole new haircut.
And honestly, she made out because something had to make her dye that a different color.
This was all a long con for to change her hair.
So I've loving all the memes.
My favorite one is the Spirit Halloween costume.
So it's so easy to do, Philly's jersey, wig, glasses.
is we saw a kid,
we went to Sunday,
we were in Denver,
and we went to a Rockies
Padres game.
We saw a kid
probably, I don't know,
seven,
eight years old.
He was really the only
person the ball was going to
because,
you know,
the players throw the ball
after they get off the field.
So so many balls
were coming right to us.
We were like with these great seats.
This kid caught it in his mitt.
Perfect catch.
I was like that fucking kid
in his third grade class on Monday,
fucking legend.
Sent him to the MLB.
I just,
just was like, that's how it should be.
It took his mid out. I was like, that's, that was iconic.
Literally, that kid is going to get so much pussy in this office.
Someone's parent is going to catfish him for years.
It's not funny.
It's fucked up.
And then our last sports report happened at the Steelers game at MetLife Stadium.
The Steelers were playing the Jets.
You guys, if you have not seen this, I invite you to please pull up our YouTube and watch
the image of this, Google this.
It's hard to take in what this actually looked like.
So at the beginning of the game,
they're singing the national anthem.
There's a 100-foot American flag covering the entire field.
And they've people all around it, like waving.
There's hundreds of people on the flag.
They're waving the flag.
It covers the whole field.
And there's a man, I don't know, maybe he, like, lost control of the flag.
He's crawling across the flag.
He cannot get his bearings.
He looks so, it's so Pittsburgh.
I think it's so America.
This man fighting for his life as he crawls across the symbol of the country in 2025.
Like this is all of us right now.
He could have stood up, but he didn't.
He's crawling the whole hundred feet across the store.
So you think he got flipped up in town?
Right, because we think that it's like some, you know, thin flimsy flag.
It's a massive, like, hard thing he got.
No one knows who this man is.
Like the internet did not do its thing on this one.
No one knows who this man is or how he got there.
Like, we don't know how he got on the field.
It's like, right.
But there was hundreds of people in the field like waving that flag.
No.
He just like accidentally fell on the flag.
No.
Do people have conspiracy theories?
Like, is this an alien?
It's unknown how the person accidentally come down.
Like, he wasn't supposed to be there from outer space.
It's unclear how he ended up on the field.
Nobody knows.
It's an incredible thing to see.
It's really wild.
Yeah.
You said it to me.
I was like, add it to the sports.
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The VMAs were Sunday night.
You and I watch award shows now.
We live in L.A.
We watch them every year.
L.L. Cool J hosted it. Nikki should have hosted. She should host everything. She was there.
She presented. She presented Tate McCray. But I feel like all the, there was a lot of young people in the audience.
Like they had all young people like Gen Z looking people in the pit were probably like, whose dad is this?
Like L.L. Cool J. Like it was a mixed bag. This was my main takeaway from the Vietnamese this year.
There's a lot of young artists on the stage. This was the opposite. So this was a year of like some
dream nostalgia.
You'd Ricky Martin performing.
He got the Latin icon award.
He did some incredible throwbacks.
You had Lady Gaga, who I wouldn't say is an old timer, but she hasn't been there
in five years.
You'd Buster Rhymes.
He got the Rock the Bell's Visionary Award.
Post Malone and Jelly Roll, they're a longtime artist.
Jessica Simpson, who said she hadn't been there in many, many years.
Stephen Tyler, Mariah Carey, who got the Video Vanguard Awards.
L.L. Cool J. hosted.
Like, these are, they're old timers in the music industry.
All these people.
Yes, I totally agree.
but then they're on the flip side there were people I didn't know I'm gonna I'm gonna age myself
there were a few there was a presenter whoever performed at the very end I didn't know him I really
enjoyed it Alex Warren no no no God oh can we stop Alex Warren if I never fucking hear that song
I listen Alex Warren it would not be soon enough right now the way they have shoved ordinary
down our throats for a year I'm cannot hear that fucking song but there was of course
Tate McCray and Sabrina Carpenter and then Katzai
I won.
Like, there was both.
It feels like they are trying to reach everyone.
Like, of course, you would not have reached a young demo with all of the old school
performers and presenters, nor would you have attracted your core MTV audience, like
our age, millennials with all the new people.
But I feel like they were trying to do the most.
Like, for me to see these people, like Mariah Carey era that I grew up with and then
to see people I hadn't even heard of, like they accomplished something.
And they really were playing to an older audience.
I, of course, I love it.
But I just feel like people are like, who is this?
But there was a few highlights.
I loved Lady Gaga leaving early to go perform in Madison Square Garden.
I just love that energy in general.
Like, I have to head out.
We would do that.
I have an arena at a headline.
I'm just going to start doing that leaving a party.
I have somewhere bigger and better to be.
This is just, I stopped in, but I have something more important to be at.
It reminds me that New Year is when, like, what, you, Hannah,
Rammy, everybody left a stand.
You were all like sets that night.
You came to my house for parties.
Oh yeah.
We had to work first.
Then we came to your house.
Her performance was terrifying.
And I would say not safe for children.
And I was triggered as someone who saw the thriller video too young.
And it scarred me for years.
Rana, that performance.
She's probably like mission accomplished.
She's the fucking best.
Like if it again, it's pure art.
But it was scary.
I mean, she'll come out covered in blood and me.
She's scared.
Sabrina Carpenter loved her performance.
I love everything she does.
I think she's great.
I mean, I love Tate McCrae.
Like, I'm an Ocey,
Tate McCray fan, which you found out last night.
And I loved her performance.
I thought it was so sexy.
But the sand?
I just kept thinking, like, if I was in the pit.
Yeah.
Sand.
Oh, your first thought wasn't sand all up in her pussy?
I guess that was my first thought,
was sand in her pussy.
I mean, I thought that that was a bold outfit in general to wear
if you're going to do those type of moves.
My pussy would have been hanging out on either side of that thing.
No, but like sand in the pose.
She's like, the sand was not my smartest move.
Like you're not in the splash zone.
You're in the sand zone.
Like if I got hit with a face full of sand.
I totally agree with you.
But that is an outfit that welcomes sand up the vagina too.
Like there are other outfits you can worn, but I was like, damn.
But what if you were in a pit getting hit?
Okay, would you rather, would you rather be in a pit getting kicked sand on you or water?
Water.
Is sand in my face?
I'm suing.
I guess straight to jail.
It's like really uncomfortable.
Yeah.
Is this?
What is this?
Burning man?
But like I paid a lot for this blowout.
I'm like,
Sam's not going to mess that up.
I honestly I can't decide,
but I think I'm with you.
Sans objectively,
like physically uncomfortable.
Yeah.
Okay.
Mariah.
So just a fucking legend.
She really is.
She's so unintentionally funny all the time.
And she is a legend.
And she is the voice of a generation.
And she is.
is not a dancer and she never has been
and she can get up on that stage and do whatever the fuck
she wants, but she was the epitome
of yes, girl, give us nothing.
Right? Like this video
like, and I, people,
I saw a video this morning from chicks in the office and they were
saying the same thing and people in the comments were like,
how dare you? And it's like, she's a legend.
Don't get a twisted. She's like the diva, the icon.
She does not, I love this about her.
I'm saying this as like, I love that she stood up there
and she was like, I'll perform.
You will hear the song.
But this video I took, like, Raina, the walk is so slow, wait until she starts walking.
And the dancers are at a 12.
The dancers are full energy.
It really highlights that she's not even.
And here she comes.
Not even walking.
That's not even a strut.
I love it.
It's just walking down the street.
I walk quicker down the street with more.
When I take my little five o'clock walk every day, I walk with more energy than that.
even a strut, and I fucking love that.
She looked stunning.
I mean, and I just have to say, like, that was apparently, allegedly her first VMA,
and it was the Video Vanguard Award.
And she shaded it to a little bit, like, what took you so long, MTV.
Like, Rain, I will not comprehend this.
How can this be?
So when she said that, I actually was like, that can't be true.
No, like, I need proof.
When did the VMA start?
I mean, was she, I mean, she had to be.
Well, they were all through the 90s.
Like, she had to still be at the peak
of her career. She was MTV.
Yeah. I remember the emotions
video. Like, she, Mariah
was the 90s. Like, how in the
world? Like, I
don't understand it. Then you have Sabrina
Carpenter, who she's just won her second moon man
and as she should, rightfully so,
but she's new, we're on the scene. She's has
two, Mariah Carey never won. What is happening?
I mean, she truly couldn't believe it.
She predates by a long time, Britney Spears, Justin
Timberlake, who were like the stars of the
VMAs in the early 2000s.
Yeah.
She predates them.
I am really confused.
I thought it was really like a real jump scare.
I was like, nah, girl.
You don't remember.
Okay.
VMAs, yeah, I thought it was 80s.
So the VMAs started in 1984.
I mean, so her whole career was during the VMAs.
I mean, she was the voice.
It was her and Whitney Houston.
How did this happen?
How did like fantasy and honey and, I mean, fantasy is just crack.
Like, her Christmas album should have won a Grammy.
Every year.
Literally.
She still win Grammys.
We should actually give it to her now.
Mary-I.
Carrie is Christmas and she deserves an award for it.
And she is music and she is MTV and I could not believe that.
She is so fun to watch.
She doesn't know she's funny.
She's hilarious.
She's on the level of like Martha Stewart to me.
She just be saying whatever she wants now.
Yes.
That's the same person in there.
You just,
you hit an age and a diva level where you're just like,
I will say whatever I want.
I hate that she's Nick Cannon.
ex.
I honestly, the whole time you were talking,
I was like, when can I bring up the canon?
No.
You forget because she seems so far removed from this man
who like impregnated half of Los Angeles.
Like, you're just like, that can't be Mariah Carey.
I know.
We didn't even talk about this, but she had an interview recently
where they told her Katie Perry went to space.
Did you see this?
No.
You didn't see this.
And she said, oh, Katie did.
What did she went to space?
What did she do there?
Did she?
Literally, Mariah, did you know, Katie Perry,
I went to space.
She was like, oh, it's so cute.
For what?
And then they said, would you ever go to space?
She said, I've done enough.
Are you serious?
It was so good.
I've done enough.
That is so iconic.
I just, I really love her music.
And I always will.
I'm going to use that forever for the rest of.
Every time somebody asks me, like, have you done?
I've done enough.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I don't have to.
I've done enough.
That's not true.
Ashley, and I have tons of plans.
But so that was pretty much the VMAs.
I mean, you know,
I did like a lot of the nostalgia, some of these new people in the scene.
Nothing really blew me away, but you and I are of the era of the true shock value.
Like you'll never see another Madonna, Christina Aguilera, Brittany moment or Miley Cyrus's Robin Thick performance.
So that was so provocative.
Like, I don't know.
I don't think we're going to see any of that anymore.
We have a high bar.
Stuff that shocks you?
Yeah.
I feel like the VMAs used to be about that.
Like that's when people would really show out.
They couldn't do that stuff at the ground.
Grammys. So I feel like if you even Google like wildest BMA moments, like it will blow you away.
And some of the stuff is like inappropriate now. Yeah. It hasn't aged well. But like we come from an
era of just like, oh, this is a little cute little show. Yeah, let them. No surprises. Let them cook.
And then, you know, stay tuned for the Emmys. They're on Sunday night. They're 9-14 Sunday night,
the primetime Emmys. I don't know who's hosting it. I should have looked it up. I didn't.
You guys figure it up. Is it not Nikki?
I know. I was like, why is it, Nikki?
Let's see who's hosted, though.
Every show that is out, we're like, why didn't Nikki house that?
She's the perfect host.
Like, she's the, obviously, her is a comedian, but she's the age you want.
Like, she transcends the different generations, like, whatever.
Well, she's hosting again next year for, you know, I always be forgotten.
You are going to be surprised.
I'm so excited.
Do you want to guess?
Yeah, is it a man or a woman?
Man.
Okay.
Are they an actor?
No.
Are they in comedy?
Yes.
Okay, it's a man in comedy.
Is he 30 to 40?
You're not sure.
He's 40 plus?
Yeah.
Has he hosted before?
No.
I don't think he's ever hosted anything before.
40 plus never.
God, I want it to be Krista Stefano, but they would never let him.
Top, top comedian.
Really famous.
Yes.
Above four.
Bill Burr.
No.
Okay.
Has never hosted any of these things before.
It's not Ricky Jervase, obviously.
It's just, it's unexpected.
One of the top five comedians right now.
Can you give me one more clue?
No.
It's white or black.
He's white.
A white guy.
Right, top top.
We talk about him as like he sells stadiums.
Like, Napargozzi?
Yes.
Do you even know a song?
Does he know music?
Okay.
He might know jelly roll.
Does Nate Bargatzi?
He doesn't strike me as someone who listens to a music.
No,
a primetime Emmys.
It's not the Grammys.
It's like,
what is she getting at?
Sorry,
I was off of BMAs.
Okay,
so he might watch a little TV.
So real disconnect there.
I was like,
what is she getting at?
Sorry,
it makes a little more sense now.
Okay,
here's what I think might have happened.
Made Bargatsy hosting the Grammys would be unhinged.
No,
if you told me that,
I would be like,
no.
Sorry,
yes.
I got all twisted it up in my.
head.
He was CMAs.
Yes, I can see him.
So the CMAs.
So he is the number one selling comedian in the world, I think, but in terms of ticket sales
by Ticket Master Lacher, number one, I mean, by hundreds of like $100 million or something
like that.
And he is a clean comic.
So I think they know that, like, what they're going to get with him.
He'll be great.
He will be great.
Oh, he may as well be great.
You know, speaking of Philly today, he performed in Philly recently.
He, my, uh, Corey and Ham went to go see him.
And he, they adopted a dog in Philly and named it.
Philly.
Wait, Nate did?
Yeah.
Oh, that's not so adorable.
Yeah.
Just adding to the Philly update today.
That's so interesting.
He'll be great.
He is one of my favorite comedians ever.
I think he's phenomenal, but I did not see that comment.
I'm still feeling a little hot from conflating the Emmys and the Grammys.
I was like, what is she doing?
Because it was just like music.
Okay.
All right.
Should we move on to a unknown number?
Oh, my God, Ashley, I'm so excited.
I'm foaming at the mouth to talk about this.
Okay.
This is a documentary on Netflix.
It is about a high school.
They call it high school catfish.
Yes.
And it's this high school couple that is getting cyber bullied essentially by this phone number.
It keeps texting both of them.
It seems to really know a lot about them both.
And it is an unknown number.
And so it's a 90-minute documentary.
It's a quick watch about who this is.
And I will tell you, obviously there's spoilers ahead.
I have never seen.
Spoilers are ahead.
You guys, if you really want to be so surprised and you have not seen this on the internet
and you are interested at all, stop listening.
I will say I have never seen spoilers like this for a show in the history of time.
Really?
Really?
To just talk about their thoughts and feelings that like they were just like, I got to make a video right now.
Like I have not seen, like, I've been like teasing like we were liars for like so long.
I'm not going to say what happened.
I know, but you know what's interesting is that I think people feel like they can share a spoiler of a real news story.
It wasn't national news story.
You know, like you could Google what happened.
that you would have never heard of this. It happened in a small town in Michigan, but I think
people are like, treat it differently than the, I don't know, the end of a movie. Yeah.
Totally. You're totally right. It was a nationally, a nationally televised news story.
But the documentary itself is fine, but I had heard going in, I didn't know who the harasser
was, I didn't know how it ended. I had heard, like, you'll never believe it. I could have
never believed it. I had to see it through. Like, the documentary, I don't know if I was. I don't
I want to call it mid.
It wasn't...
I liked it.
Okay.
Yeah, I guess I've liked it enough, but I wasn't so enthralled, but I had to see it through.
And of course, like you said, it's only like 90 minutes.
So should we just say...
I mean, if you've seen it, you're listening.
And the person cyber bullying this young...
I'm a middle school age, early high school and her boyfriend.
And honestly, the whole community, it really stretched out.
Like, it tore this community apart.
People were being falsely accused.
The FBI got involved.
These poor kids were accused.
Yes.
Like, again, the school got involved, and it wasn't a...
the FBI got involved and the person who was doing it was the girl's mom.
I like chills.
Watching it through the lens of knowing that it was the mom was honestly even a crazier
experience for me.
Oh, yes.
You knew.
Yes.
I knew because everybody, I mean, I was like, I know this is.
Watching it through the lens of that and watching all of her interactions because she gives
interviews in the beginning as though she can't believe this was happening.
And when she's caught, she does say I didn't start this.
She's a blatant line.
She's a really sick individual, really, really mentally ill.
But she says, I didn't start this.
So I guess in the interviews, she is interviewing as though it had nothing to do with her in the beginning.
Which is just irrelevant.
Yes, she did.
It's very clear that no one else did.
She just wanted to give herself an out to be like, I'm not as fucked up.
She says, like, she tried to get involved because she was trying to figure out who was doing it.
And then she got carried away.
But, I mean, if you guys have seen it, of course, like these texts are sexual.
She essentially tells her daughter to kill herself.
I mean, it's really dark on so many levels.
And I was thinking to myself, like, this would be more understandable if this mom was
bullying other kids.
You would be like, she's mentally ill.
But this is like, you're a monster.
Like, that's the difference between somebody who's just like really fucked up and someone
who was like, feels so dangerous, like to do this to your own child.
So, I mean, that is the definition of munchausen by proxy.
So munchausen by proxy is that somebody is either forcing usually a child or some
kind of dependent to act sick or making them sick.
And so that you are the dependent that they're coming to.
And it's fascinating in the end of the documentary
when the daughter finds out that it was her mother
and it's her mother comforting her and putting her arm around her
and holding her hand.
I mean, I've never felt so physically uncomfortable watching something
because the police are in their house telling the daughter,
it is your mom, and the mom is the one comforting her.
And you do see the dynamic because this girl
was so terribly bullied for about a year and a half.
And that was her main,
protect her and save space was this person.
Right.
And it's like she probably obviously is still, well, she's traumatized for life.
And she feels really broken.
Like the way she speaks is like a real victim.
Like early on, I was like, yes, of course, this could just be like a really shy girl who, you know, is uncomfortable maybe talking on camera.
And you realize that as it goes on, I mean, she's been really traumatized.
And then towards the end, you're like, she's just broken.
I mean, she's now closer to her dad, which is great.
I mean, they do show her having a deeper relationship with the dad.
The dad is just like, fuck you, you crazy lady.
And he's obviously done with her.
But the daughter is not.
They keep in touch while the mom goes to prison for about a year and a half, I think.
And the mom is out and they're trying to figure their relationship out.
And the daughter has just graduated high school like this past May.
So we don't really know what the future holds for her.
But, I mean, you were saying, like, why did this mom participate in this?
What the fuck?
So I looked and she said, basically,
I mean, this is a, this is, watching this is one of the deeply craziest people I've ever seen in my life.
I mean, this is somebody who should probably be in prison for the rest of their lives or in a mental institution.
Yes.
But she said that she felt like this documentary was going forward no matter what.
So she did want to be a part of it to like tell her story.
Well, yes.
You can see that she thinks she is going to convince you like that she's not a bad person.
She is a real gas lighter and a manipulator.
And they even say that like the way that she acts in court and she's like this victim.
and she's had trauma in her childhood too,
which of course you don't want to minimize anybody's abuse
that they've experienced and hurt people, hurt people,
and people who abuse turn into abusers, not all the time, of course.
So you see how she is trying to,
she went into the documentary being like, I'll get them back.
No, you all, sis.
And this is just a deeply sick person
that has no connection to reality,
but can I tell you which scene?
I was like, what are you doing?
So the police come to the house
and they basically like get her to confess,
they tell the daughter, they call the ex-husband to come there basically pick up the daughter.
And then they just leave.
The police leave.
And they leave this man who has just found out that his ex-wife has been traumatizing their daughter, alone in a home with the two of them.
And like, crazier things have happened than somebody very violently assaulting a co-parent for what they have done to a child.
Yeah.
Like, I couldn't believe.
The police were like, see you later.
He even says that.
like, I forget what exactly how it goes down,
but he kind of alludes to being like,
I don't want to do anything crazy right now.
Yeah.
Because I'm so angry.
But I wanted to show you Trevor Wallace's video.
He parodied the mom.
Okay.
Before you show this to me,
I have to tell you,
I spent at least 60 of these 90 minutes.
So she has a pretty prominent, like, buck tooth.
And her top lift starts at the top of the teeth.
What top lip?
And I spent the whole documentary trying to make my face do that.
Wait, this is, well, you've got to watch this.
Okay.
Right.
So I've said, Raina, don't watch this.
I don't want you to spoil it.
And so we'll put a snippet of this on the screen.
But it's, I mean, Trevor's videos just get better and better.
This is like a masterpiece.
This is the most thing that about me.
This is a ball.
This Paris vlog.
He does stuff that it's like five minutes and you're like, how is this still going?
It's like it's too long but not long enough.
I don't know.
Okay.
All the moms and I were just wondering who could be texting my daughter.
You ugly.
The ass, bitch!
Owen thing flatter than that ass is that jump shot.
You guys, I don't think of crazy.
I mean, yeah.
Owen put his fingers in my suckhole.
He only get DUIs all the time.
But if you don't get caught, you don't get a DUI.
But I got a DUI.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
Are you drunk right now?
Yes.
Girl, Heaven's calling.
You pick it up.
I just got it addicted to texting my daughter
like I was in an Xbox Live chat room.
Owen, more like moaning, because he want me.
You sent 17,000 horrific text messages to your daughter?
I only sent 16,999 of him.
The first two, I don't know.
The person of the real monsters.
Wait, wait, hold on.
Did you just text me?
No.
This is you.
No, that's AI.
That is you.
I got a DUI.
That's AI.
Where's Owen?
So we, yeah, we didn't mention that, like, essentially she seemed to have a crush on her
daughter's boyfriend.
It was all about getting them to break up.
Yes.
But it really escalated from there because they did break up and she kept going.
Kendra kept going.
Well, he found another girlfriend in a new state and she found that girl and that girl's mom.
And went after them.
This poor boy.
I'm obviously this poor girl.
But like, yeah.
Well, he's legal now, Rina.
So you showed me his picture and you said he was hot.
So you are Kendra now.
you're going to be sending those texts
and I need to keep an eye on you
this is how we run the business into the ground
Raina starts text
for Raina's the unknown number
if I come in and you're like
oh I was nothing I was doing anything
you put your phone away
listen as a former catfish victim
okay that one time I got catfished
I just
hurt people hurt people
oh my gosh
all right well so that is a no number on Netflix
It's a wild watch.
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Luigi Mangione update.
He starred in a Sheen ad.
So if you were scrolling Sheen and you saw Luigi in a shirt, which has sold out now multiple times,
that sure went crazy.
I couldn't process this.
Like a bunch of people sent it to me, and I kept trying to get the whole story.
And there is no story.
Like, essentially, they just use this image.
Sheen has still has apologized.
And they were like, we got this from a third-party vendor.
And everybody's debating whether or not it's AI.
Obviously, he didn't sit and model for Sheehan out from prison.
You know, he's not a former model.
He's a former assassin.
I mean, we've been needing a little bit of Luigi in our lives.
And I don't care who gives it to me.
But fashion brands have been doing this for many, many years.
I mean, since the beginning of predating, like, current.
AI tools, I was always able to mock up stuff that we sell on models.
Oh, okay.
I was like, what are I getting at?
But like it is, I mean, I can choose from like 10 or 12 models when I upload it.
And I guess that website could have provided whoever.
Well, I am very confused.
Like, Sheen, Sheen, whatever, their Chinese brand.
Does China know Luigi, like, did someone at Sheehan or this third party send this image over
and they were like,
they're never going to know.
They're never going to know.
And then it's like,
we're going to know.
But like,
it's a major crime in the U.S.
Like,
did China know about this?
Probably not.
Did someone slip this in?
And they were like,
yes.
China won't know.
Like,
I've got to know how this went down.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
They're blaming someone.
Like,
is there just like an intern
at Sheehan that was like,
watch this?
Probably.
See if this makes those websites?
Or it came from the top.
And they're like, we're going to get so much attention from this.
Who cares?
Well, right.
So, like, what is the punishment, if any, here?
I mean, there's, I feel like we're losing the battle to AI.
So, like, if this was intentional, brilliant, it got all this attention.
It sold the shirt.
You know, everybody's talking about it.
And then they're like, oh, whoopsie.
I mean, it depends on how much money you have to fight somebody legally.
Nobody can use your name and likeness.
Yeah.
So, like, you and I cannot be on a website.
Anybody could take our bodies in our faces.
I don't know why you want to.
But what's he going to do?
What is he going to do?
Right.
What is he going to do?
But I bet you like he has a lot of financial backers that do stuff pro bono for him.
Well, there is a fan club that is selling merch and the money is supposed to go towards his legal fees.
I don't know if he's involved in it.
But I think there is actually official Luigi merch and the money is supposed to go to model for that?
To his case.
Okay.
But I'm like, who's to say that those people are legit?
I mean, do they know him?
Are they family member?
I don't know.
Fans.
Yeah, just fans.
That's the fan club.
Well, this came down, unfortunately.
Okay, well, that's your Luigi update.
What if he became, like, the Revolve girl for Sheen?
No, like, he's like...
No one knows her name.
Sheen, you can use it.
You just gotta pay me.
Like, she has the same...
Now, there's a couple of Revolve girls, but the main...
The main one, which I don't know if she's a real person, but someone did they saw her once.
No, she's ever...
She doesn't go to events.
I learned her name once, and I forgot.
She's such a celebrity.
What a...
we got her on the podcast. I don't even know what I would do if I saw. I feel like she doesn't speak.
Like I just think she, she's a mannequin to me. It is a jump scare when you hear some model speak.
You're like, you're not supposed to be doing that. I didn't know you could do that so good.
She, there are a couple of revolvers, the main one. I would love to see her on the wild.
But she's not AI generated, but like she could be. She looks AI generated, but she predates
AI generation. I mean, she's been the Revolve girl since I've been shopping since I had enough money to shop on Revolve.
So for the last 10 years. Okay. So next is Trump's birthday.
card to Jeffrey Epstein.
Everyone knows they were buddies.
He was always there.
And this birthday card has been in the news and they finally got a hold of the birthday book.
So this birthday book that a bunch of other rapists gave to Jeffrey Epstein, I guess Donald Trump was in it.
And we knew the copy on it.
It's like this little skit he mapped out or something.
It's very confusing, but it starts with saying like narrator.
And then it's like a script between him and Jeffrey Epstein.
and saying, like, we have so much in common or something like that, which feels a little high level
for him.
I can't believe he was that creative to come up with this.
And then it is the outline of a cadaver.
It's like a woman's body.
It's supposed to be.
With no arms.
A little bit of like a lewd drawing.
And at the bottom, Donald Trump scribbled his signature.
I thought it was, I actually, I swear to God, I didn't know it was his signature.
I thought it was a woman's bush.
Like, is that supposed to look like someone's bush?
Oh, and then there's like the little titties?
Well, doesn't look like a vagina.
But of course, he's like, I don't draw pictures.
his stupid kids
were like he doesn't draw
and it's like yes of course he draws
that's the smoking gun
Donald Trump doesn't draw
Eric Trump is like my dad doesn't draw
he's a literal child he does draw
like I know for certain
like I feel like this is like a toddler
who colors all over the white walls
with a crayon and is like I didn't do that
I would never do that
I can't even hold a crayon and it's like
the crayon is in your hands
also this conversation makes no sense
and he's like that's let send it
yeah this is just a bunch of like
innuendos about them having sex
with young women by the way
That's what this is.
And he put it in a birthday book.
He's like, let's immortalize this forever.
The wilder thing is this narrative that was spun last week that Trump was an FBI informant.
Do you not see this?
What?
You did not see this.
To take Epstein down.
Yes.
Carolyn Levitt wrote that.
I think Mike Johnson, like, co-signed this.
They've walked it back a little bit.
But right now, I swear to God, like, Mago was believing this.
Like, that Trump was this hero in a cape.
that was at the parties with the underage girls
as an FBI informant.
And people believe this,
and I like to tread lightly with calling people stupid,
but you're stupid if you believe it.
If you believe that he was an FBI informant
and was at these parties
because he was trying to get Epstein from the inside?
Ashley, this is so crazy.
This reminds me when I was 15 years old
and my boyfriend came over and he brought a bunch of liquor
and I probably drank a whole bunch of it.
I put it in my underwear drawer like an idiot.
And my mom did my laundry
and opened up my drawer and she was like, what the fuck is this?
And I was like, a bunch of kids were drinking and I took it.
Yes.
I took it because I didn't want them to drink.
And my mom bought that story.
Not to call her stupid, but if you believe this, you are stupid and you were in a cult.
It is so idiotic.
My mom let me sell her that story that I just didn't want other kids to be drinking.
And that's why there was a handle of liquor in my drawer.
Because she wanted to believe you were a good kid, which is understandable from a mom to a daughter,
but not here.
for adults that are supporting the president
in the United States. Also, I wasn't
the president. Also, he wasn't in the
FBI. Like, you know what's so funny is they used the word
FBI? They didn't say he was a secret
agent. They said FBI. Can't the FBI be like,
he's not on the roster? No. Donald Trump?
He's not an FBI agent. Now the Department of War
is going to crush the FBI. They're like, you better
not say it. Like, he was just a scammer
that was at the parties with the girls.
Doing the same stuff. Yes, doing the same stuff.
But anyway, it's just, he, he,
mortalized it on this weird cadaver with a bush signature at the bottom.
The cadaver.
It looks like a cadaver.
There's no arms.
She doesn't have arms.
Well, let's lighten it up with who, what hot people are dating what other hot people?
It is an avalanche of hot people dating hot people this week.
And they're just like, they're just like, fuck it.
I don't care.
I'm going to go on dates and join myself.
And I love to see it.
So Olivia J.
Double dipped right now.
Leave some for the rest of us.
She had Becky's daughter, if you guys are familiar.
Yes, Olivia J. Jankuli, I think, is.
her last name.
She was on a date with Glenn Powell and then was also spotted at her ex-Jacobaloret's
premiere last night.
So people are speculating that they're still, I mean, this girl leaves no crumbs.
Yeah.
If you were stringing along both Glenn Powell and Jacob Allerty, got that good pussy.
She got that Megan Markle pussy.
She's got that leave the royal family pussy.
And Becky's like, she got that.
She got it like that.
That's how Aunt Becky got Uncle Jesse with that good pose.
And then Austin Butler was actually parading around with Zoe Kravitz a lot, but then they were actually just proving.
They were in a movie together.
And then they split off and they have been also just dating up a storm.
Her and Harry Styles have been all over New York.
So Kravitz, lots of three different dates.
They're kind of cute together.
Oh, my God.
Don't.
I can't.
I ship this more.
Zoe Kravitz's taste is impeccable.
So Channy Tatum, obviously, that was my.
my favorite celebrity
couple of all time,
but who did we talk about
that she dated
someone else
that was like
Moranis type?
Like,
we went through her
dating history.
It's incredible.
And she's like the number one.
And now Harry Styles,
I'm obsessed with this.
I guess he lent her his blue jacket.
He has this like beloved blue jacket
that people recognize she's wearing it.
Also,
I didn't realize how tiny she is
and he's kind of tall.
He's six feet.
He's tall for a person in entertainment.
He's six feet tall.
And she's five,
too.
They're so cute together.
Oh my gosh.
Can't get enough.
And then finally.
Austin Butler spun off from her and he has been on a date with Emily Radikowski and they're like
parading around together too. All of these just like obscenely hot people. It's crazy. Hot people are
dating hot people. I remember the person that she like allegedly dated. It was Drake.
Who? Joe Zoe Kravitz. We talked about this before. Channing Tatum, Chris Pine, Penn Badgley.
These are people she's dated or have been rumored to date. But I just, I love her taste.
And yeah, I mean, you were saying like leave some for the rest of us. It's crazy. It's just.
But, you know, hot people are going to do that.
Yeah.
And then I think one of the most beautiful women alive is Kyah Gerber,
and she is dating someone who I don't really know who he is,
and he's not that hot.
But that's fine.
She broke up with Austin Butler.
She's had enough hot.
Oh, she was dating him to.
I can't keep up.
That's her ex.
That's who she was with for years.
It's like a real web.
That's what I'm saying.
These people are just, like, jumping around to each other.
She's dating an actor that's like a be list, like mildly known.
I always.
And they went public this week also.
Zoe Kravitz is 36 and Harry Stiles is 31.
Oh, okay.
He's grown up.
I always think of him as young.
I think of like one direction.
I think of the idea of you.
I know that book.
The book, yeah.
And the net movie also that was like loosely based on him.
But I think of him as young.
And he's, look at him, 31.
I like that little age gap between them.
I rewatched, don't worry, darling, on a plane the other day.
I've never seen it.
I need to watch it.
People didn't like it that much.
I loved it.
Yeah.
Anyways.
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