Girls Gotta Eat - The Snack: Sexy Santa, Gluten-Gate, and Bad Beards

Episode Date: December 5, 2024

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about: Target's Sexy Santa Kraft's Gluten-gate Jaguar's controversial rebrand Elephant sex at Art Basel Vanderpump Rules recast Jacob Elordi's beard Nick Cannon's holiday rounds Words of the year Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for tour dates, merchandise, and more. Thank you to our partners this week: Lume: Get 15% at https://lumedeodorant.com with code GGE. Addyi: Learn more at https://addyi.com. Viia: Get 15% off at https://viiahemp.com with code GGE. Article: Get $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more at http://article.com/gge. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Snack, a lighter serving of Girls Got to Eat. This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy. Hi, guys. Hi, guys. We missed you so much last week. Oh, we did. Yeah.

I mean, so much happened and I just didn't have a platform to discuss it. I don't even care about Thanksgiving. Have food on. Really? No. You're over it. I would never be over it. I did everything.

I did all the cooking. I did all the crap work, all the shopping. I could not believe it. What? Your meal. Oh, thank you. Unbelievable. You know, so I didn't really know this.

Tell me my shirkutery board. Oh, your shirkery board. No, not me. I don't want it to sound like you baited me. I really did like it. I responded and I said, I just, I thought it looked really nice. I really was like, what would Raina do? WRD.

But anyway, back to you. It looked incredible. Well, my sister and Lanyu just had the baby and so she said it at a time. She was like, I'm not interested in like shopping, cooking, clean. I'm doing that stuff. She's like a, she's just a feed every hour. So my one request, because I feel like Thanksgiving takes like two days to cook and it's so much money and work and everybody eats in 30 minutes and it's over. So my request was like I'd like you guys to be in the kitchen with me and spend time with me when I cook.

And so like her and my brother and the baby and the dog just like hung out with me. It was really nice. That's so nice. Yeah. Yeah. I did a charcutory board for like Thanksgiving day lunch grazing. And I was really proud of myself. It is a lot.

Listen, it's not easy to do. So here I think is what is the problem with me, which is my problem with a lot of things in life, is, overthinking. Because kind of the strategy I feel like is mush it all together. Get chaotic with it. Like I've made ones before and they're like, everything's lined up. Like that's not the move. You know, curve it around, junk a bunch of fruit in the middle. Like I just got a little more like jumbled up with it. I'll put a picture on YouTube for you guys. I got jumbled up. Um, you, I like to mush it all together also. It looks more bountiful. Yes. And then my fiance made the meat flowers. I'm just kidding.

No, he was like, can I put the salami and pepperoni in a little flour? Who taught you about that? Seriously, what girl taught you that word? Men are not supposed to know about this. And then some people in the DMs were like, oh my God, the meat flowers look so good. I was like, God damn it. I just, I didn't know how to do that. Did he use a cup?

A cup. Okay. Use a little cup. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how you do it otherwise. Also, I feel like years ago, somebody said, had this new about charcutory boards and I like cake out of my head. Like, I don't like the idea that a person has touched every single piece of food on that.

But some people take those salamis and fold them in fours and then place them together. So the flower, I feel, is a better alternative. Yeah, I know. And that's just something you've got to get over it. Yeah. I'm touching everything. It's not my problem. It's my hands.

Okay. Well, anyway. You know what I think about all the time. You said you've got to get over is we did this episode about like gross stuff that men do, I think. And one of them was peeing outside the house instead of inside. I didn't, you just got to get over that.

You just got to let them. It's the most unexpected. Seriously? You caught me off guard. Right. Well, you've got to let him. They love to do it.

You can not take that away from a man. If you think you're going to, you're never going to find someone. Or he's a little bitch. Because they love it. It really, it took me by surprise. I thought you were going to be like,

are you an animal? And you're like, you got to let him do it. You got to let him pee on the house sometimes. Well, I mean, I don't know. I have a dad and my brother. We grew up in like a rural-ish area. Like, they're peeing outside.

But there's a lot of land to pee on it in your farm. Like, in my back, like, my new house, like, it's the tiniest little bit of outdoor space. Like, you pee out there. Stop it. I'm going to smell it. You're, you're, I can see you. I'm in the kitchen. That's the mark.

Yeah, I shouldn't be able to see you. I shouldn't be able to see you. Get out of my eyesight. If I can smell it while it's happening. Oh, my God. Yeah. It's got steam coming off of it. Yeah.

No. Yeah, you got to let them do it. Okay. All right, let's take our partners and we'll get into it. Thanks to article, get $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more at article.com slash gge. And Lumi get 15% off at Lumidotrant.com with code GGE. And thanks to Vaya, get 15% off at Veymp.com with code GGE. And Addie, learn more at Addie.com.

I'm excited for this episode. I feel like this is why we started the snack. There's like a lot of niche. headlines this week. Yes. So we're going to kick it off with a Q4 marketing report. We have some brands to cover and the moves that they're making. I think you probably want to introduce the first one.

Sexy Target Santa. So I don't know why we've never sexified Santa before. He's in charge. He is the king of everything. He is a whole day named after him. Honestly, kind of a whole week. And I don't feel like we've ever made Santa sexy. Yeah.

So Target has done that. that. Everyone has answered my prayers. I've been asking for sexier holidays for years. And this year, they were like, here's your stripper movie. Here's your sexy Santa. I love this. And I just love this campaign so much. There are so many bad campaigns and so many bad commercials out there. Like, I try not to watch too many commercials. But you know when you do? And you're like, who came up with this? Who paid for this? Like, why did this? A room of people signed up on this? Yes. Like, you can tell it costs a ton of money. How many people worked on this? It's like, why is every commercial and campaign not Super Bowl level?

You know what I mean? I feel like it's kind of like confirmation bias. Like one person says yes. And like it's not, if you work for Target, that's the example. Like it's not, you're not motivated to like make it better. But I don't understand. If you were trying to ever be funny, this is a rant aside. I'm just going to say one thing.

If you were trying to be funny, why did you not hire one comedian to tell you if that's funny or not? I do not understand it. Like one person in the room doesn't have to be a famous comedian. Like someone would love to take a couple hundred bucks to tell you. and punch stuff up. Like, I just get so mad about bad commercials and so mad where you can tell a lot of money was spent. Totally.

I mean, a lot of money was always spent. But anyway, they nailed it. So Target, basically, they hired Brent Bailey as the actor. He was in the idea of you. So they hired him. They did a series of commercials with a sexy Santa. And one of them opens up with him at his house. That house?

You don't know that he works at Target. It's just this hot, burly guy. It's very clever. He works there. But he's, like, off-duty Santa, moonlighting at Target. Like the concept is genius. He's in his like giant rustic

wood cabin. They wear red. It's a whole thing. And then he gets in his red vintage Ford Bronco and drives to Target. I was so turned on just by the car and the house.

Yes, there's one commercial where he's bicep curling this Christmas tree. And the thing that I, and the one that's probably gone the most viral is there's this woman shopping in the store and what he's showing her like a turkey

or something. And she's like, why is he weirdly hot? Like I laughed out loud. Can I tell you something? Yeah. I'm ready to drop a bomb. Okay.

Okay. So the whole thing is that he's this daddy clause. The people headline says Target sets a holiday thirst trap with new ads featuring hunky Santa and the internet is lusting for Daddy Claus. I think Daddy Claus is hilarious. He's this silver fox. He's this older Zaddy. He's 41.

He's 41. Brett Bailey is 41. He was born the same week as me. He was born on July 4th. 1983. I was like, I took my breath away. I'm the same age as daddy, claws.

How old are you? Silver fucks. I mean, they made him look older. 41 is not. It's daddy, not daddy. Whatever it is. It's a little. It's giving older hot man energy.

45, I feel like, is the age of which you can start calling it that. I just think it's an interesting casting. Yes. Like, when I was looking it up, I wasn't looking up to find his age. I was like, oh, he's 50. And I look it up, I'm like, Brett Bailey, there's got to be two of them.

How is this the same guy? So they said he was any idea of you. And I was like, who is he? Who is he? So whose dad was he? Yeah, like, shouldn't the whole thing be like, that's someone's hot dad? Yes. Why is he 40?

Like, he should be like Ron from Parks and Rec. That's who, that's who like, dad is. I love him. Nick Offerman. He's married to Molly Shannon. Yes, yes. No, Malini. What did I say?

You said Molly Shannon. She's married to, I think. Megan. Megan Blaley. I always get them mixed up. Yeah. It's just some energy. Yeah.

Okay, here's my theory on why Santa and just Christmas who's in general have gotten so sexy. I really feel like it's become more invoked to not have kids. Like more than ever in the past. And I feel that I'm not a parent so I can't participate in Santa the way that other people can. Like Elven the Shelf should. Yeah. Also I'm a Jew. But besides that, like I feel like because I don't have kids, I'm sort of like ostracized from like the Christmas

Santa thing. And so I feel like now it's. more in vogue to not have kids and those would want to participate in Santa. I love that theory. I also just think everyone is being more open about how horny they are. And I love that too. And I will say, I think one of the trailblazers for sexy character was that sexy Mr. Clean a couple years ago. I think about him all the time. I think that was a super bowl reveal. Like I, the sexy, yeah, obviously your vibe. The Bronny Man. Yeah. Mr. Clean. I mean, that's my exact vibe.

Yes. Like sexualizing these fictional characters is really 2024. Yeah. I love to say it. Okay. Next headline. Okay. So this is some drama with Kraft as in the mac and cheese.

Okay. And basically, I'll summarize it, but this girl, she's very cute. I liked her whole energy. She wasn't giving off like Karen complaining vibes. Yeah. She did this TikTok and she was like, I'm gluten-free. And there was a whole series. But, you know, kind of ultimately,

she was like, this is my comfort food, Kraft mac and cheese. And I keep getting boxes with no sauce packet. And hello, what am I supposed to do with this? It's just noodles at that point. And she posted this whole thing and Kraft responded with, basically she was like, I think there's an issue that you guys need to look into. Like, I've gone to multiple stores now. Like, this has happened multiple times.

This isn't a one-off thing. Something going on in the QC at Kraft. Just for the gluten. Yes. Because I've opened hundreds of those boxes. boxes in my life never seen one without a sauce packet. Right. And so their first response on her TikTok was like kind of dismissive. And it was like, yeah, there's no issues.

He, he, he, you know. And then what they sent her a coupon. And she was like, I don't need a coupon to get another box with no cheese. And so finally it ended up where they called her. Yeah, somebody called her. Okay. And they sent her some more. And she said that experience was nice.

The guy on the phone was nice. And yes, they sent her like 25 boxes. So I think Kraft hates gluten-free people. Yeah. And someone in packaging has a gluten-free X, and they were like, fuck those people. Can you imagine? It has to be an inside job. Someone has some annoying gluten-free X, and their packaging. We have that one friend.

It's always like, she all have that one friend. Everybody has that one friend. We have that one friend. I love her so much. One night we were at this pizza place, this Italian restaurant, she handed the waitresser to the menu. It was like, can you circle all the things that I can eat? And I was like, the things. Thank God you're so sweet.

Yeah, and she's the best. but no, literally, I bet someone was just like, no cheese for you, no cheese for you. Like, this is their revenge on their ex. No soup for you. So we're going to open some boxes. Tessa went on a mission. She said it was pretty hard to find.

Okay, so I took a break yesterday. This was her idea about it. I'm like knee deep and moving. So I took a break and I came back and you guys, Tessa had gone to, how many stores did you go to? Actually, we'll put you on the mic and you can talk. So Tessa had this idea to go to a bunch of different stores and see if there were indeed sauce packs.

I want to make it clear. This was her idea. And I was like, if you want to, go off, sis. I was like, be over here with May. Packing. That's so funny, right? I was like, actually, no. You need to come over here and pack these boxes instead of picking up those boxes.

Get these boxes. Okay. So, Tessa, how many stores did you go to? Well, I didn't think of me that hard because a girl in the video was like, I went to six different stores across different cities. And so I was like, everyone's going to sell Kraft Mac and Cheese. And I was like, there's literally between my and your house are four grocery stores. So I was like.

Right on that block. Yeah, there's like, and I was like, and they were like smart and final. Ralph's Whole Foods. I was like at CVS. Like these are places that should sell. Yeah, Gelsons. I was like, these are places that should sell crap mac and cheese. I went to eight stores in total and it took me three stores, had gluten-free craft. Right, they had the craft mac and cheese. Some of them didn't like Gelsons. Whole Foods didn't even sell craft. Well, that makes sense. But like the CBS, right-day, they also just not gluten-free. But like, I was really surprised. I think the one that was shocking was Smart and Final not as having.

But we know what they do have. Giant pickles. Shout out to Smart Foll. Do you guys ever have a question about grocery stores in L.A.? Tessa's got you. So we're going to open these and see if they have the sauce. Also, Tessa, why is there? Just in case you want to know what stores were like, just in case it's like a distribution thing.

I put the receipt at the bottom. So you should know if it doesn't have a receipt, that one's Ralves. Okay. And then the other ones should have the receipts labeling what the stores are. Okay, I have a packet. And don't worry, guys. We are going to eat all this. I hate to waste food.

Tessa is going to take it and have a mac and cheese party. No, I'm taking this all home. I'm going to make some. You are? Bacin cheese party. Okay. Yeah, Tess, you can have some two. Okay.

I have a sauce packet from Ralph's. Okay. We are good. One point for Ralph's. Yes. Yes. Yes. Sauce packet from Vons. Oh, another Ralf's. Yeah, there's two from Ralfs. Oh, another Ralfs. Yeah, there's two from Rouse. Because I went to Target first. I was like, they're all going to have it. I only need to get one from Target. Okay, I have a target, two. Are you doing your target? No, Target only has one. There's only one from Target. And then there's two from Vons and two from Ralf. You're hard to open one handed.

I got a packet. I was hoping to get one without. Fresh pass? That's probably Vons too. Vons. I got a packet. Damn it. So I don't eat a lot of Kraft mac and cheese.

It's been a minute. But when you open it, if you're used to opening these boxes, bam, packets right there to open one of these and not see the packet. Like, I feel that girl's pain so deeply. Like, if I get a salad that I've ordered, and I'll say it, Sweet Green is mostly the culprit. And there's no dressing. I lose my mind.

Yeah. they often, and there's no, there's no option to add a dress, like, one time, one time I found an option. And I was like, they're doing it. And I think it was like a glitch in the matrix. They like, they just fixed it. Yeah, they've been better, but like that is, it's a tragedy. Tessa, thanks for doing this. Oh my God. Tessa, you're amazing. Thank you for doing this. And I'll keep all that because we don't waste food around here. Sometimes I'm just like, what is Tessa's job? Okay, so maybe they, maybe they fixed it, but. Maybe they fired that guy. Or, you know, I mean, did we know where she lived?

I don't remember. Because, I mean, these batches go out. I mean, this is why there's recalls. Because, like, a bunch of stuff goes to one place. You know, one shipment is faulty. And so it must have been in her area. California would never. Daddy Newsom.

No. He's like, we're not having any shoes on that front. He's like, my platform is that every box of Mac you open will have the chase. He was like, this is some Trump shit. This is giving RFK. RFK. I mean, isn't he like a health person? He's going to take

He's just going to take it off the shelves. I feel like he's going to like not believe in this stuff. That's giving him too much credit. He's going to sell them with raw milk and them. Okay, so that's our craft segment. We're moving on. The final Q4 marketing report is going to be on Jaguar.

So you drive a Jaguar. So you're in the culture. This came across our desks. And I was like, I, so Jaguar, they rebranded. And they changed the logo and they changed the leaping. Jaguar. So they changed them both. And this is an iconic logo from, I mean, what year is it, 1930? So Jaguar, yes, like, this is so personal to me. Like, this is what kind of car I always wanted. My dad had a Jaguar, like an old one that he fixed up when I was a kid. I always thought

it was so cool. Yeah. And I wanted to get a car that would impress him. And so I drive an F-Pace. I just love it. I was so excited to buy it. And so the campaign, this was a couple weeks ago, but we have like an update too with the car that they debuted. But they redid their logo. They redid the Leaper, the Leaping Jaguar. They put it over this like grill thing. It looks ridiculous. And then they took the Jaguar face, like the scary, like growling face.

They just got rid of that all together and just made this like J and R thing that like you could make in Canva. It looks crazy. But like the biggest abomination of all is like the font that they wrote Jaguar in. It's insane. There's like a capital G, a lowercase A. Like, I couldn't believe it. What even font is that? I don't actually, I don't even know where to start.

I hate it so much. And so the reason why I hate this is like, I think logos have meaning. I think branding is really important. And I think this is a really old classic company. And people, like, you buy those cars because you're buying into the brand. And I don't have to get that deep with it. But I was like a marketing major. And there's a lot of science behind this.

And they changed the font. And it's so bizarre. It's capital J, lowercase A. capital G, capital you, lowercase A, lowercase R. Why? I know. And the campaign itself was really weird and disjointed. So their whole thing is what exuberant, create exuberant.

What does that mean? Their whole thing, then their ethos is copy nothing. But they put out this like commercial basically, it was on their Instagram and stuff. And listen, I want to say that like some conservatives have a problem with it because they say that it's too woke, which I'm sorry. Just say you're racist. I hate this whole anti-woke thing. You're racist. That's that's code.

But it wasn't that for me. It was just like, what is this? You know, like diversity is a plus, of course. But I was like, what is this? It looks like it's for high fashion. I can't stand Elon Musk. But did you see what he commented under the commercial? He wrote, do you sell cars?

Which I laughed out loud. Do you sell cars? Because exactly, like it's like a teaser, but it's not giving car. It's giving fashion. What is this supposed to make people excited about? Yes, of course, I love the diversity of it all. But it was so weird, but that's the least of my worries. that it's more the logo and the font and the all that stuff.

The most of my worries is the capital G in the middle of the word. I don't who, that's one of those things where you're like a ton of people worked on this. And how much? A hundred million dollars? Seriously. No, I'm serious. A roomful of people picked the font, the colors. And somebody was like, let's make the G in the middle, uppercase.

And everyone in the room said yes. There's this designer. He, his name is Alan Peters. That's his handle to Alan Peters. He just kind of redid it. Did I send you this? Mm-mm. It's so beautiful.

He took the Leaper, and I want to show you his, like, final. Look at that. Look how good that looks. That looks beautiful. Yeah, he, like, kind of redid it, and people were like, great, they should pay you, whatever they paid. But why this is even kind of news this week is they did debut the car. So they revealed their first concept car after this rebrand.

Two nights ago now at this point in Miami for Art Basel, and it's called their Type Zero Zero. and it's a glimpse into their new electric vehicle. I don't know. It looks like a Corvette trying to be a cyber truck, trying to be a Rolls-Royce. It's like giving me like old school, like muscle car, but luxury. It's very bizarre looking.

It's not for me. It's got this low roof and this long nose. And I don't know. It looks like the Jetsons to me. It's too futuristic for me. That's just not my style of car. I'd rather have that vintage Bronco, the Santa Daddy.

was driving. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing, though. I mean, I think some things, like, I think whenever something really new and innovative comes out that looks different than anything we've seen, we immediately are like, brother, ooh, you know, but then it just becomes the norm. Like, I think of that with SUVs. I think that they've changed so much over the years. And Rain and I do like that old boxy style. That's obviously not what SUVs look like. And I feel like back in our first driving days, if you would have showed us what an SUV looks like now, more rounded and more sleek, would be like, that looks like a minivan. Yeah, it's stupid. That looks stupid. That's not how they're supposed to look. And that's how they all look now.

You know, so things change. And I know that they're trying to be innovative. And I guess it's worked for them in the past. But I can't really speak on the vehicle because I don't really know what the future looks like in terms of cars and how cars are going to look in five to 10 years. But the rebrand for me was a miss. I mean, I guess they're just like we need to make this company feel younger. Like Jaguarie to me is an older, more regal, classic brand. But it doesn't say to me like people in their 30s and 40s wouldn't buy this. brand. It doesn't feel like a Lincoln. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And I mean, experts are saying, like, this is a miss for your demo. Who wants this? They had it in Miami in pink and blue, which looked weird. And I'm like, this thing in black coming at you is going to look terrifying. It's so aggressive. I don't know. I don't mind it in that purple pink color for like an event. It looked like fake at an event. Like, I was seen it last night on Instagram because, you know, I'm keeping tabs on Jaguar. You guys, I'm a Jaguar girlie. And I was just like,

this is it. It feels like what like Travis Kelsey would like drive to the Super Bowl maybe. Like you just, it's a one time use. I can't. I would be so low in it. Like I hate like I love a sports car, but I just can't, I can't do it. I'm on the highway. Like I'm like laying down like this. Like I like to be sitting up above the crowd. Yeah, that's why I'm such a big car. Yeah. It's not for me. Okay, but that does bring us to one quick thing also related to Art Basel. This, I would use that car at Art Bosel. That is the exact car. I'd be whipping around Miami at Art Basel in that car. They knew their demo. They were like launch it in Miami. Yeah.

All this flashy freaks. Yeah. We love Miami, but you guys get it. So Art Basel was this past weekend. You ever been to Art Basel? I forget. No, I haven't. So if you guys don't know what Art Basel is, the biggest art festival in the world, takes place in Miami every December and there's hundreds of activations and events and parties and brands. And it's really wild and cool. It's fun. Yeah. Yeah. I think I've been down there when it's going on. But no, I've never been to like the parties and stuff. Yeah, It's like a fashion week type of thing.

There was a bunch of different headlines, but one that spoke to us was couple caught having loud sex atop a huge elephant sculpture ahead of Art Basel in Miami Beach. And we'll put the photos up of these sculptures. So do you know what these sculptures are? Do you know that these are the New York City ones? Well, so that's the whole thing. Like, we saw these every day for a week in the meatpacking district back in October. Yes.

Tons of them. Like I was taking videos. My brother loves elephants. I was obsessed with this art installation. but I never once thought I want to fuck on top of this. I don't know how you get up. They're huge. Like, is this like Cirque de Soleil shit to get up on that elephant and fuck up there?

Like, do you think they planned it or do you think they were just horny? Or do you think you got to plan? You can't get up on that with an erection. You got to like really think about. These are these giant wood elephants. If you've been in New York City in October, they were all around the meatpacking district. There was like a hundred of them. We'll show some video, yeah.

But you can't get up on those with an erection. Can you imagine? No, so you think it was premeditated. I don't think that somebody's like, I'm horny. I'd like to put a pin in this for 15 minutes while I climb this, I don't know, eight foot tall elephant? 10 foot tall elephant? It's so crazy.

Yes, the installation is called the Great Elephant Migration. It's just so dope, but it says a source, this is from page six, a source tells us that Monday night a security guard heard strange noises and went over with this flashlight to investigate. Apparently he saw a couple on top of one of the big elephants, because they're all different sizes. There's like babies and adults. You think they climbed up the trunk?

You had to climb up the front of it. The herd is made up of families, babies, adolescents, and full-sized adults. We assume the couple scaled the animal by climbing its trunk. Yeah, that's how you have to get up. So it says they avoid being arrested. He simply asked them to leave. Can you imagine me trying to get up on one of those? I mean, I think that you could have a fighting chance and getting up on one, not me.

No, seriously, who is this couple? They're athletic. They're all in their athletic. Yeah. Okay. I like it, though. I mean, I would do it. Yeah.

Like, if somebody was like, Like, let's try it. Like, I would absolutely do it. No, not at this age. Yeah. I might. No, I'm falling off of that and breaking a hip. Oh, it's not because you're too classy.

It's because you're afraid you're going to hurt yourself. Yeah. Okay. I was, I got a little judges. In my 20s, 100%. Okay. Yeah. I was coming out of the ocean after fucking a dude in Miami at 6 a.m.

Families on the beach, butt naked in Miami. Like, I would fuck on top of this elephant. But now I'm just worried about my hips. You know, my physical. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, let's just take a quick break.

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Big news out of Bravo land. Fanderpump rule's whole cast was fired. Let go and they are starting fresh with a brand new cast. So this show lasted 12 seasons. I was really curious to see how they were going to take it to the next season. None of these people feel like they authentically really spend time together anymore. And that's natural.

As you grow up, your lives separate. Obviously, there was this giant scandal that was, it's interesting because the scandal made it the most popular show in the history of cable television and then ultimately ruined the show. So they really eked out one season after that for the fallout. And then I think a lot of these people just splintered. And, you know, the reason why this is my favorite reality show of all time is that it's this cast that really was integrated with each other. They're all friends.

They own businesses together. In the off season, when they're not filming, they actually spent time together, they vacation together, they go to concerts together. That's the magic of a reality TV show. And I think you see shows like Real Housewives of New York, for example. They recast it. And season two is just tanking. People don't watch it.

They don't like it. It feels manufactured. It feels forced. People say it's boring. But the original cast of New York, all those women were actually friends. They were integrating to each other's lives. And I think that, you know, you ran into this issue where not these people want to have anything to do with each other anymore. And so, like, where do you go with a show like that? And I think

they could have, like, forced it or tried to pay, like, Raquel to come back. But I just was sort of done with it. And this is, again, one of my favorite reality shows. I just felt like, I know we had, like, Nick Fiala on. And you and I talked to him and he was like, I would love to watch reality show about, like, Tom and Tom and the new girlfriends. And I was just kind of like, not me. Yeah. I mean, things run their course. Yes. And I think you made a great point. You're like, it was probably already on the way out after all this time again just because everything has expiration date and then this thing happened blew it back up and then it really deflated quickly after that and I just think that's natural but like what happens like has like la la said anything like the people that just got

like oh if they made statements are they like oh this was out of the blue i'm sorry i just like not in the culture so the day was really interesting so the day prior to bravo announcing that they are going to let go of the whole current cast and recast it and the day before Tom Schwartz and Tom Sandval announced that they are closing Schwartz and Sandy. So 24 hours before they said they're shutting their bar down. And please host your holiday parties here. But the bar lasted like two years. I'm honestly surprised it lasted past Scandival because I think some people this morbid fascination of like I want to go like see this place.

But like honestly it is a beautiful bar. It's just in a weird place. It's in a strip mall. And it's next to like a laundromat and like a dog grooming place. It's a very bizarre place for this like really cool fancy bar. And I don't think you really want to support him. Like I don't, there's a million bars in L.A. I would not go support a person that had a very public long-time affair with his partner's good friend.

Yeah. So they announced the night before and then the morning of the announcement, Kristen Doty said she announced her pregnancy. Okay. And so she says, she's on the valley. Yes, but she was previously fired from Vanderpenter Pumper's. Oh, okay. And so she announces that morning like thriving, you know, like I'm not a part of this. I'm not, you know, I'm not, she's like, she's engaged, she's getting married, she's having a baby.

And then later that day, Bravo announces that they have recast the show. Yeah, almost everybody has made statements. Lala's was sort of how I feel, which was like, this was a great experience. And I love it, but everything kind of runs its course and I'm excited for the next chapter. Yeah. Some of these people allegedly are going to be on the Valley next season. So you have Lala and Sheena and potentially Tom Schwartz all going to the Valley. There'll be secondary characters.

So who's going to be on Vanderpump? Is this a, this show? was still going on. So they're recasting it with people to work in the restaurant. There's starting a whole new gen. Whole new gen. Yeah. So the thing that was so magic about the show to begin with is they all worked at the

restaurant. And there was all this like restaurant drama and they're all sleeping with each other and cheating on each other and partying together. And like it was so authentic. And then all these people grew up and like you and me and everybody, you reach your 40s and you're like, I'm not partying like this anymore. I'm making better decisions for myself. That doesn't make for a good TV show.

Right. And I think. think it's just it like you said it ran its course i was not excited to watch next season this current this past season was hard to watch right people want nothing to do with each other and i get it right and i think a lot of these you know this begs the question of like when you become a reality star like what's next and the smart people will launch their own businesses their own podcast their own lines i mean eriana obviously is the one that came out on top i mean she was on the float on the macy's day parade singing. I mean, obviously she's been on Broadway and all of that and hosted Love Island,

among so many other things. I think that also, there's just a hunger in general for reality TV shows that feel authentic and like these people know it show. That's why Mormon wives was such a huge sensation was because they didn't have to like force these people into a cast. These people have pre-existing drama. Yeah, I think there's two types of reality shows that people like. They're actually friends or frenemies, whatever it may be in real life or a bunch of strangers get together for a different purpose, like for a competition or something like that. But like the hybrid of casting a bunch of people to pretend their friends is I think something that people don't want.

Because there's so many other options. Yes. Like you're going to watch something else. Why do you need to watch this? People hate it. Yeah. Like let's just watch these strangers try to like figure out each other's lives. Like I don't want it.

No, I'm going to watch these strangers meet in pods and try to have relationships. Like that's what I'm watching, you know. The ultimatum is out. Oh, right. Which I'm so excited. Nick and Vanessa. We're still given Nick and Vanessa options. And then just in Bravaland, also the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills is back, which I'm obsessed with it.

And that is a show where those people do have preexisting relationships. And I'm crazy about it. And Southern Charm starts this week. It starts tonight, actually. I gave it up a while back. Yeah, I don't know. I just, I'm over it. This is another one that's just kind of run its course for me.

And I'm just like, we're kind of like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Ready for Summerhouse. Lindsey. I am. pregnant season. The devil works hard. Okay, one quick thing, Jacob Allorty's new beard. The internet has feelings.

Raina, I have feelings. I've never, ever seen a celebrity grow a beard and look worse and get so much hate. This is crazy. People usually like a beard in general, that's one thing. But women are usually like, oh, my God, like sexy beard. I can't even believe it. Like, I can't look at him with the beard. Who is that?

Is it Casey Affleck on a bad day? why is it so bad? I think the mustache is too long. It's scraggly. It's ginger. It's a ginger beard and it's patchy. Also, here's my theory. He has an amazing and distinct chin and jawline.

Yes. We don't need it. We don't need it. What's it for? I don't even know. A roll? You grow a big ass beard like that. That's because you don't have a jawline.

That's because you know what? Chin. He went from a 12 to a six. I don't know how he didn't. That is any average dude. That is someone I've hooked up with and didn't even remember. That's a guy in a bar. That's a guy trying to get his kids back.

Like it's so so bad. I guess this one tweet, finally living proof that all men do not look better with a beard, thanks to Jacob Allorty. And I think that's the thing. If you have a perfect jawline and he has like a butt chin, right? Like you want to see it. Like we don't, we didn't need this.

Also, is it for a role? Am I, did he just decide this? I don't even know. I should know more. No shave November. Are you doing it for November? Oh, I just assumed it was for something. I thought so too.

It's definitely not for the American Psycho. That's crazy. You know, I love a beard on a man. I love it so. Yes. Much. And like when men that I have a crush on shaved their beards, I'm very upset. I'm like, don't look at me.

I have a crush on this particular guy. He shaved his beard the last time I saw him. I was like, that's disgusting. And I saw him this morning and I was like, he goes, you changed your perfume. And I was like, you grew your beard back. This is me if my fiance shaved his beard. Here, take this ring back. This is over.

He has, yeah, but like he has the perfect beard. Like, not everybody can, not everybody could reach that level of beard, but like Jacob Bollardi, I don't know what he did. And I do normally like beards also because it ages a man. I think it makes them look a little more rustic. Like, you look like a little boy without a beard except Jacob Bollerty. What's six, seven or some shit? I mean, and I'm not as much of a beard enthusiast as Raina.

Like, I think it's dependent on the person. Absolutely. I'm peak beard enthusiasts. You are, yeah. So when we both can agree that it looks bad is bad. I think there's like two people ever I've slept with since like high school. The tentational. Oh, my God.

I just, you need not apply. It's not for me. I know. Okay. And let's just talk about Nick Cannon because it's his season as a real life daddy clause. No one is. He's literally Santa Claus. he used to go around and bring gifts to all these children.

It's a lot of chimneys. It's just so crazy. So he's been in the headlines because he said he didn't want to have a vasectomy. And, you know, he lightly called like being a dad of 12, like a rich man's sport, you know. But I love it. He compared it to sports. Well, I think they said something like, isn't this expensive. And he's like, it's, you know, not for the poor, you know, kind of thing.

Like he said it and kind of, I mean, which, listen, do I agree with Nick Cannon? No. Like, it makes me sad. for these kids. I wish he would stop. Like, I wish he would have stopped a long time ago. Like, you know, you're actively creating broken homes, you know, but I guess you could do a lot worse. He's still paying for these kids. You know, like, you could do a lot worse as a celebrity's kid.

And I don't know if you knew this, that he recently came out as a narcissist. Oh, really? He's so brave. Did you see this? Yes, but like he says. He's like washing over. Like, people come out as like trans or like, like, you can't come out as a narcissist. Like unless there's a parade for you, like you can't make an announcement about it. Listen, I mean, not many people admit this, though.

And he said he was, this is not in defense of Nick Cannon, but he said he was diagnosed and he needs help, which is more than what most narcissists do. Well, it's actually one of the key factors of narcissism. You can't tell a narcissist or a narcissist. Right. But this is wrapped up in the kid thing. Like, this is why he's doing this. I mean, they're correlated.

There's like a whole spread your seed thing, you know, and there's also like he, as a narcissist wants to have an army of children who worship him. You know, like, they're not going to grow up and worship him. So let's see how that shakes out. But like, who doesn't worship their dad, especially their rich, famous dad? Like, even if they are absent a lot of the time, like, I do think that like there's something tied into that of like, no one's going to worship you more than like your children when they're young. So that probably ties into the narcissism. It has to be. So well, another like key factor of narcissism is that like you only see the world through the lens of how it affects you and not you. And not you. your effect on the world. And so this is prime Nick Cannon. Like, yeah, I want to keep having kids because it makes me feel good. And kind of, I don't really care how this turns out for them. Thank you. That's a perfectly said also. But I loved the Shade Room's post on Thanksgiving. And they posted, they posted all these pictures of him visiting his families. And then at the end, at the end, they do the family tree. So if you guys don't know the family tree, Nick Cannon, Mariah Carey, which it's crazy.

She's part of this. Do you know that I saw them at a live taping of what's Kelly Rippa? What show is that? Kelly Ripper's show. Live with Kelly and her mark. Live with Kelly. No, when Marcus Strayhan, yeah, Marcus Strayhan was still on the show. Is that it was?

Marcus Strayhan. Go, cut this. You got to cut this from the show. Her husband is Mark. No. Michael Strayhan. But her husband is Mark Consuelo. Yes.

Okay. So when her, when Michael was still, When Michael originally was on the show, anyways, I saw them together. This isn't important. No, it's fine. You can cut this. I think it's crazy Mariah Carey is involved in this.

Like, a queen. She's the queen of Christmas. He's the king of Christmas, I guess. Britt and knocks her down a couple pegs. I know. But also, she picked him way before this. He wasn't like Nick Cannon, father of 20. She isn't a league of her own when it comes to all his baby mamas,

but like she's still in the family tree. It is crazy that you have like this, the A-list of the A-list, icon of Christmas, wrote the Christmas song. Yes. But anyway, they always post the family tree, which is just very funny at the end. Like all 12 kids and all their names, you know, you guys know, the hits, like legendary

love and Powerful Queen and Rise Mazziah and Onix Ice Cole and Zion and Zillion and beautiful and Monroe, Moroccan, Zen. Wait, I have a question. Those are the names. Powerful Queen is a personal favorite. You got a lot to live up, too. I have a question for you. So all of these photos, all the kids are in like gene overalls.

Do you think he's, so in every single photo, did he send an email out to all the moms saying get all the kids in gene overalls and white shirts? I don't know. I have no idea. I didn't even notice that. But some of the comments, I did love the comments about the outfits. Like one of the comments on the shade room said, not the same fit for two of the visits. He was on a tight schedule. Like the fact that he didn't do, he didn't change between and people picked up on it was so funny.

matching outfits with all. There's one where they're all in gene overalls and white shirts. And with Bree Tessie, they're in white shirts, tan pants. He did like a fit with each what, each girlfriend and kid. He did a theme. Yes, he did do a theme for all of them. Like, someone said he didn't even have time to take off his jacket. This is crazy. Like, it really is crazy. I always love those comment sections. No, you're right. I was like, is this going to be interesting? And now I'm like, this is the most interesting. Someone said, I want a picture with all the kids and the mamas at once. Oh my God. And this wasn't even all of them. Like, because there's six, there's six women and 12 kids. Do you think that, like, we'll ever get that? Do you think they'll

do, like, a family reunion one year? Right. And we'll get all the girlfriends together and all the kids. Or do you think that they're all, like, persona non grata to each other? What is that term? Like, don't, like, I don't fuck with you. Okay. I don't know what's going to happen. Yeah, like, are they all going to, like, get together and, like, have a support group? Like, what if there's a chance some of them, you know, what if they see each other in a dating nap? And they're like, oh, that's my brother. Oh, the kids. I thought you meant all the wives. Oh, the wives. Yeah, I mean, you would have to at some point. So anyway, we don't know. He's going to get help for his narcissism, but he's probably not going to get a vasectomy. So I, I, Tessa, this is your Roman Empire. Do you think there's more kids to come? Yes.

Well, I mean, I don't know why you would stop. Lucky 13. Like, why would you stop? Because, yeah, right. I mean, because it's a terrible thing. to do. Cured from his narcissism. I think they'll be 20 kids. Yeah, maybe that's his goal. I mean, he could just keep fucking, why stop? Okay. Okay.

Well, that's our Nick Cannon update around the holidays. I mean, that is my favorite time of year for him when he's got a, oh, what is it? It's him or it was somebody else? I think was it future? He has a few baby mamas, too. And like one year, he just tweeted out like happy Mother's Day to like three or four women. I think, I don't want to miss me.

It was just like, happy Mother's Day to so and so happy Mother's Day. Like, it was just crazy. What I can't believe it's not that he's still having kids is the women are still signing up to have his kid. But they know they're going to get that money. I mean, like, he pays the bill. He pays the child support. I mean, like, you could do worse.

Totally. You could do a lot worse. You know, like, he's out here being like, I'm paying. Right. There's plenty of kids that have absent fathers that don't pay. And, yeah, and rich fathers that don't pay. Like, I think, I don't know. I haven't spoken to these women.

I'm sure some of them. That has to be part of it because it's not because you want the family unit. I mean, it's definitely part of the allure of it, right? All these little nepo babies. Let's just talk about our remaining partners. And then we will end this with words of the year. We have our picks as well as the official ones. But I am telling you guys about Viya.

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So Oxford does one and Dictionary.com does another one. Okay. Because you thought you had heard one of them and I was like, I am aware of this as well. Yeah. So the official one is brain rot. So that's Oxford. That's the Oxford word of the year. And dictionary.coms is demure.

They said demure. Dictionary.com exploded, obviously, throughout the year. And it was a 1,200% increase in what, like, in the word or more d'amier or use. usage. How do you track that? They're just walking around listening to people. So they do a bunch of things. I was like reading about how they do this, but they poll people and they ask people like to submit and then they come up with like 20 words or something.

And then you vote on the words and you rank them. But also you can see like what words were Googled the most searched for the most. Obviously. So dictionary.com just you could just see what word was searched for the most. Brain rot. Like did we need that for 2024? Like we've been through enough. Like give us a good word. Like I would have preferred it to just be Demirer. Cross the board. Cross the board. Yeah.

Cutsy. Like I can't believe they did us like this. Yeah, we get it. Like it's just, it was just like, that's the, that defines our year. So anyway, I pulled this from from Jessica Yellen, who was like, honestly my favorite follow for political news and really facts only news, not noise is her whole thing. But she reports on everything. But mostly politics. So anyway, brain rot.

She wrote the definition. Supposed a deterioration of a person's mental or intellectual state. especially viewed as the result of overconsumption of material considered to be trivial or unchallenging, which, yeah, it tracks, it tracks for where we are at in the world right now. But don't you think it's like, like, like, antiquated? Like, I feel like a couple years ago we realized that, like, scrolling endlessly on Instagram is bad for you and nothing productive comes out of it. And, like, I feel like this is kind of like old news. Right. Yeah. So I wanted to ask you this because she wrote what's to blame and she did a poll. And she said, what's to blame? One, Instagram or social media,

two reality TV, Hollywood, three sensationalist news, and then other. I mean, it's probably a combo of all three, but the mindless scrolling. But I don't know. Like, it's crazy how, like, what you absorb into your brain affects you. Like, I just read that book. It's called Romantic Comedy. I'm obsessed with it. And it is about a writer at S fictional, but based on a writer at S&L.

And it's a love story. But it's so quick and funny. And the dialogue is so funny. Like, they have, like, comedians going back. back and forth. And I swear after I read it, I felt like better spoken and funnier as opposed to binging TV, reality TV for hours on end. Like, I really think it matter, hot take, reading. But like, even what I read, you know, and what you watch. I think my, I think that my, no, I can't think of a word. Well, you know me. I'm always like, what's the word? I think I've just

gotten better reading in general. I think that my vocabulary has gotten better. I have more words that I have access to just in my brain. Yeah. I feel that it's an activity that relaxes me and like adds to my life. I also scroll for hours on Instagram. But I sort of try to only do that like when the actual purpose is to like decompress. Like you and Tessa will be over and like you, you and I will record like two episodes. We'll do a ton of work and you guys leave.

And I really feel like I can't have like a, I can't critically think right now. Totally. I just want to scroll mindlessly. But I try to cap it. Right. Exactly. I just feel like brain rats just a little dated. Yeah, that's fair.

Yeah, I'm not in support of it. Yeah. I don't like it. So we're going to do our own. Yeah. I pick two. Just two. Oh my God, I'm a whole list.

Okay. What you do? I mean, like seven. No, good. I'm excited. I picked two and then I thought I was like so creative. And then I realized, so one of my words, one of my two was Rez. And then I realized, Riz was last year's word of the year.

Wait, it was. Yes. See, I didn't even, it's, it definitely, I mean, that, that's so funny. Because last year at this time, that, that, was way more obscure. Like people, and I get it. Like, you know, the younger kids had probably been like, yeah, we've been using it all of 2023.

But I feel like it really caught on this year more. Way more this year. And yes, at the end of last year, it was like catching on. That was Oxford's. Yes. Is it Dictionary.com or Oxford? Oxford. Oxford.

So I googled like what was last year's word. I really was like, oh, I'm going to shock them. I'm going to be so creative. No. So my other word is mid. Yes. And I don't know if it's a word. Is Mid a word?

Is Riz a word? Ridd's in Oxford So it's the same Mid's, same Calig. Okay, so that's why I looked up Riz because I was like, it can't even be a word. Right.

So mid? But they make them words. They're like, we're in charge of the words. We own words. No, who gets, who gets to decide what's a word? Like, that's the whole thing with the dictionary people. They're like, it's a word now. Yeah, because we decided it.

So mid is my word of the year. And it's just because it's fun. And I like describe it. It's a good word. And I say it all the time. And it's not positive. or upbeat. I thought should we do like a positive upbeat one, but I like describing things as mid. Okay. I love those two words. I had risen my list. I did more like defining of our year.

Oh, amazing. Okay. So, um, Zamboni. Okay. Eurogenitals. UTI. UTI. Pole Vault. Shalazion. And lastly, renal. Oh, my God. All right. Oh, wait. I had two more. I had yapper and then I had hawk toa, which I don't know if that really counts, but you know, I feel like that's not going to be in the dictionary. I'm obsessed with your list. This is so good. I think Shalazon.

Shalazan was a new word for me this year. Right. And Zamboni was a new word for you this year. Rinal is a new word for it. Do you know that sometimes I'll just be laying in bed and I remember the moment that you let me know that I made my email address, Rinal. Like it was so genuine. Like, I really did not. know I did that. So my

fiance's sister, my future sister-in-law, it's her favorite thing. She can never get over it. She will bring it up to me. She's like, I will never ever recover from Raynell's email address. I just, it's so genuine that I really did not know that I had done that.

And that you like revealed it on air. Like, it's the hardest I've laughed this entire year. And I feel like if you've been seeing these TikToks of like type B energy, it, Raynell is like the most type B energy. Just like at the airport painting your nails. You just like, you spill your drink.

You're just like, I don't know where my gate is. I'll figure it out at some point. Like it's, no, it's a lifestyle. It's type B energy. I love it. Yeah, anyways, I'm obsessed to your list. Okay. Well, those are our words, you guys.

So thanks for listening. And you guys can get tickets to our remaining shows of the year and forever. Just kidding. I don't know who's to say. But anyway, yes, next weekend and the weekend after in New York and Boston, Girls GottaEatteeat.com, get those last tickets. Girls Gottaeat E podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I'm Ash Hess. Raina is reynal.

Just change it. You know what, Rayna. No, Reynal, like, you could probably not do dot. You could probably go Raynal Greenberg on Instagram. You guys, you got to harass her and just bully her into doing this. You got to be Raynal Greenberg on Instagram. Please look into it. My 25 goals.

I can change it. We'll see if it's available. Oh my God. What if someone got it and they're going to sell it? back to you. Well, somebody already has. Right of Greenberg. Tust a check in to it.

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