Girls Gotta Eat - The Snack: South Park, Tea App, and Getting Spicy with Scheana Shay

Episode Date: July 31, 2025

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about: National Orgasm Day Gwyneth Paltrow as Astronomer's new spokesperson South Park is back with a vengeance The Tea app blows up then gets hacked Pedro Pascal's handsy reputation Headlines: Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau dating (?!), Carrie and Aidan breaking up, and Beyoncé breaks country records And we are joined by Vanderpump star and new author Scheana Shay to talk about her new book My Good Side. She's spilling the tea on her husband's affair and decision to write about it, her cast members' response (or lack thereof) to the book, celebs she's hooked up with (who's the best/worst), and more. Enjoy! Follow Scheana on Instagram at @scheana and get her book My Good Side. Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Revolve: Get 15% off your first order at https://revolve.com/GGE with code GGE. Shopify: Go to https://shopify.com/gge and start building your own brand today. Tonal: Get $200 off your purchase at https://tonal.com with code GGE. Cakes Body: Get 20% off your first order at http://cakesbody.com with code GGE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Snack, a lighter serving of Girls Got to Eat. This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy. Hi, guys. Welcome back. Oh, it's a snack, I guess. Last day of July. What a month.

Was it a good month for you? Was it a good month for you? You know, I'm having my, like, summer spiral. I'm like, I'm really crashing out. I do this every end of July. I'm just like, no one's around. My dad's like, Randy, you've been home for four days for last. Yeah, seriously.

Just chill. I'm just like, I'm walking around like no one's around. I have nothing to do. I have no one and nobody. Ash is my only friend, but it is my summer crash out. Do you remember last July? That's how I planned it. So you're codependent on me.

I made everyone move away. I remember when I used to complain that we never spent solo time together? Like no solo hangs now, only solo hangs. We have no friends anymore. No, it's fine. People are traveling. People have moved back to the East Coast. Didn't see a comment, but it was my summer crash out.

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Get 20% off your first order at Cakesbody.com with code GGE. Okay, so we are going to kick it off with a heroes we didn't know we needed report. Oh, I like that. We were trying to figure out what to call this report. Because you rarely see Gwana Paltrow in South Park in the same report. So these are the heroes we didn't know we needed. So the story that obviously took the world by storm, from the Coldplay CEO.

So Astronomer, which is the company, he was the CEO of, has gotten all of this media attention. And so they decided to capitalize on this and hire a spokesperson. And that spokesperson is Gwyneth Paltrow. Gwineth Paltrow was starred in an ad for Astronomer at the center of the Coldplay concert scandal. The headline says,

Gwineth Paltrow helps turn astronomers' infamy on its head. So she did this a minute, minute and a half ad. So she opens up the commercial. I've been hired on a very temporary basis. is to speak on behalf of 300 plus employees at astronomer, which was not on my bingo card. Yeah. And then goes on to say all this stuff.

Yes. And she's like, I want to take some questions. And the first question is like, I'm sorry, but what the fuck? And she just answers something completely different. She gives some information about the company.

You probably didn't know before. She's like, we actually do use da-da-da-da workflow. I was laughing out loud. It's really, really smart marketing move. It is so iconic. She's Chris Martin's ex-wife,

which is why she's involved in this. You don't know that. She's married to the lead to the whole plan. Oh, did we even say that? Yeah. Yes. But they consciously uncoupled. I wish she would have referenced the conscious uncoupling.

So when her and Chris Martin got divorced, she used this term that blew up. And obviously, we probably have an uncoupling happening after the scandal. Several uncouplings. So a few things about it. It's estimated she was paid in the millions. I'm sure people are like,

what did she get paid? Just, I mean, no one knows for sure. But I think there was like a biographer of hers that estimated based on what she's been paid in the past. And it's Ryan Reynolds production company called Maximum Effort. So Ryan Reynolds has this production company. and they do kind of this like clever advertising. Yeah.

But I'm like Ryan Reynolds took this like worldwide cultural scandal and turned this company into a household name with honestly people viewing it pretty favorably and like can't seem to do that with his own wife. Like she got her own grave. But as Ryan Reynolds used his production expertise for his wife, I'm assuming. I mean, I feel like we constantly see. Blake lively and they are trying to make her be funny and we've seen a lot of this. Like, has he been behind it? Like, I kind of forgot he had a production company and this is what they do.

Well, every time Blake lively tries to be funny, quote, and I say funny in quotes, it backfires and she sounds mean and snarky and maybe he's like, leave the comedy to me. Yeah. And maybe he's like, you're too far gone. Let's just go away for a little while. Yeah, I mean, you know, we don't need to go down this road again today with Blake and Justin and our opinions have changed and shifted over time and receiving new information. But overall, the public perception on her has not gotten any better.

And I think people were like, this company, the CEO's a cheater, and he's cheating with HR. Like, I found it all, yeah, that sucks, but I found it all just funny. And, like, I wasn't, like, out for blood with astronomer. Like, but now people think the company is like, it's, A, you know it and you're thinking of it. It's like, oh, that's so funny and cool. I think it's brilliant. I think it's brilliant to capitalize on this moment. Who had ever heard of this company?

and you're getting one of the biggest celebrities on planet Earth, who, by the way, is not known for, listen, she's known for a lot of stuff. Humor is not one of them. I didn't expect to see her in this. And just to like take this little further, Andy Byron, who's the CEO, the former CEO, who's caught in the camp,

is allegedly going to be suing cold play for invasion of privacy. And to my point last week, I think that if you parade your affair around 70,000 people, you have less of a leg to stand on for privacy. You know, you weren't, you know what it reminds me of is those people that were filming other people on planes. Remember, like people in seats behind someone would film text messages of the person in front of them.

That is an invasion of privacy. Yes. Being caught on a jumbotron. You're in a jumbotron. Sorry. That's not an invasion of privacy. Why'd you go there? Exactly.

Right. I think when you walk into like any sort of live performance, they're like, hey, you might be filmed. Right. They let you know. Okay. So the second player, which. we already spoiled, but in our, the heroes we didn't know we needed would be Trey Parker and Matt Stone, creators of South Park, which is in its 27th season.

Oh, it's, it's the longest running. And they open that season with the bang. I feel like ever since, I mean, it's not, this is not imagined, ever since this has happened with CBS and Stephen Colbert, Stephen Colbert and South Park, Trey Parker, Matt Stone, I mean, people are just taunting the administration to like, yeah, we talk, talked about last week. So CBS, Paramount, canceled the late show with Stephen Colbert for quote-unquote financial reasons, but paid $1.5 billion for South Park, which South Park is sort of on the, I don't even want to say, decline. It's not as popular. It's 27 seasons in. Like, that's just the nature

of what it is. But they paid that and then they came out guns blazing and their premiere of that episode just dragged Donald Trump the whole time, which we'll get into. But South Park since has seen a 258% jump in streaming popularity following the infamous episode that took aim at Donald Trump. So he is running around with a micro penis. So did you read about the small penis rule? What's the small penis?

Oh my God. Okay. So yes. There's a ton of stuff. There's Satan. There's obviously people in the community. And it's all bad in the best way. But the main thing is he is this tiny little penis.

So there is a legal strategy known as the small penis rule wherein an author who writes a character based on a real person can potentially evade a libel suit by giving said character a small penis. What? Listen, the logic being that in order to sue, a plaintiff would have to tacitly admit that the description of his manhood is accurate. So this rule technically does not apply to the latest episode of South Park

because they made no effort to anonymize Donald Trump. It was him. But one wonders if the logic of embarrassment still holds. holds Trump is portrayed as a deeply insecure leader who literally gets into bed with Satan, his apparent lover, yada, yada. So anyway, they just say, if the actual Trump were to retaliate, as he so often does, he'd be playing directly into Parker and Stone's hands. I am dead over the penis rule.

So basically it's saying, like, Parker and Stone are holding space for them saying, like, it's so small, it's clearly a parody. And so for him to, like, sue them, he has to admit that it actually is that small. I think they're saying, like, this man has the smallest penis on the planet. And if he wants to sue us, he has to admit that he is the smallest penis on the planet. Okay. So the White House freaked out. Their statements were so funny.

Because they're usually so chill about stuff. They shot all over South Park. This show is like, you know, it's irrelevant. But the line that made me laugh out loud, President Trump has delivered on more promises in just six months than any other president in our country's history. And no fourth-rate show can derail President Trump's hot streak. Hot streak.

Of just hot garbage. He's a baseball player. stuff to the ground. Hot streak. Hot streak. This is a president we're talking about. I just be saying stuff. Seriously, I don't think there's any strategy.

I just think they wake up and they throw some stuff at the wall and they're like, how ridiculous can we be? You love to see that and you're president. This is hot streak. So Trey Parker, South Park co-creator, he did address this on stage at San Diego's Comic-Con at this panel like last week. And he just says, in true South Park. Park fashion, he simply said, we're terribly sorry, followed by a long, deadpan comic stare.

We're so sorry. That is comedy. portrayed the president so accurately. South Park is wild, and I'm not claiming to be a longtime fan. I've seen plenty of episodes, and I respect what they do. It's so unhinged. That episode rate, I couldn't believe what I was watching. Honestly, like, I believe in, obviously, freedom of the press, freedom of expression,

and freedom of everything. I mean, that's the president of the United States. And he's running off like a micro penis. Yeah, but they're like, we don't care. He's done so much damage and arm. Like, I love that they did that. And I love that they did it on the heels of Colbert being canceled. It is just, anyway.

So that's your heroes. We didn't know we needed report. I love it. And honestly, I mean, I said it about Stephen Colbert before, and I'll say this about South Park. I think that they will see a rise in viewership like they've never had before. What could spike it more? Yeah.

And then I was seeing mixed things like, did it get taken off of Paramount Plus? Okay. And I'm unsure today as it stands. I'm assuming it's still up. I don't know if that was like a rumor. But people were saying don't sign up for this because you're, you know, what this company is done, but you could sign it for the free trial. And then when you cancel, tell them, we're canceling because you support a fascist

regime. But we watched South Park and Colbert while we were here. I don't know. I just saw that tweet. that tweet. Okay. The app that has swept the nation this month, the T-App. So this has been around since 2023 and had an explosion this month.

So this app, okay, okay. This app was built for women to essentially make these like Yelp-style profiles of men that they dated to essentially like warn other women of like a large range of things, everything from being cheap on a date or insulting all the way through. And you like, I didn't get in the app, but I watched a few TikToks because I wanted to see footage from inside the app and you do like red flags. It's anonymous. And you do like red flags. So a guy will rack up like a bunch of red flags. I saw a few guys being like, oh, look at me go. Yes, red flags. They're in the app. Safety tips to spread them, which I love. But in 2025 this month,

It just got, it really caught on on TikTok and Reddit and like really swept the app store. And because there was a 525% jump in app subscriptions, it shot to the number one app on the app store. Yeah. And then it got hacked. So it was, it said there prior to the data breach, again, it had soared to number the top of the app store. It had over four million, close to five million women using it. And it was a huge data breach. People were saying it was worse than originally thought.

And I guess people had to verify their identities with selfies or their license or both. But I will say, I just wanted more tea on the T app. And then the T became the data breach. So even when I'm trying to find information, all it is is about the data breach. I'm like, I want more T on the app. So I think that the only thing that was breached were 72,000 user images were leaked. So 13,000 selfies, 59,000 posts, comments. So there were posting comments going back two years.

But then it got pretty dark. I think people were trying to dox those women with their photo. I mean, I don't know all of what was hearsay and what really happened. But, I mean, there's kind of a dark layer of this of like, of course, this app of women trying to warn each other and keep each other safe, got hacked. And then in turn, the women were in danger. But I was curious your thoughts on the app in general. I feel like the girlies were doing just fine in their local Facebook groups. Like, are we dating the same guy?

Like, I guess I just feel like this was destined to be bad in some way. Like, it would be really, really messy. And, like, lawsuits would maybe happen. And, like, of course, men would lash out. And I don't care if men are upset. Yeah. But it could be dangerous. And I don't know.

I had this thought of just, I'm all for this. I'm all for women warning each other and keeping each, each other safe, like I said. But I'm also like what happened to like our intuition and stalking people online and like doing this the old school way and like picking up on red flags. Like I don't know, it feels like an easy way out. I just, I find it really helpful, but it's hard to control it. And know what's real. How could you control it? Know what's real. And there's plenty of people that are going to put stuff that's not true. And we're not the full story. Right. Like not that people are going on there in line, which they will.

just inevitably, but also just like not the full story. Like I wouldn't want somebody writing something like this about me unchecked. And I'm not there to verify it. And I, of course, I think that women are less safe than men. I think there's needs to be more tools for women to protect themselves against men than men from women. But this is just, it's totally uncheckable. Like there aren't checks and balances with this. So of course, it's shot to popularity one week and two days later gets hacked.

I mean, I think that, like, even with the best intention, something like this is going to be hacked. Yeah, I don't know. Like, I'm not opposed to the concept, but I'm just like, I felt like this was going to go poorly. But you know, the other thing I couldn't think of, like, knowing that people had to verify themselves with a photo and information. And that is all I've wanted from Instagram forever. Like, Instagram is just this breeding ground of bullying and troll accounts, like, just doing the most. And if people could just identify themselves in order to have an account, like,

don't even need a separate email to set up like a troll bully account. People say the meanest things. People kill themselves over getting bullied on Instagram. And like it's it's so possible that the T app could do it. And that's all I've ever thought. Like if people just had to submit information to verify themselves on Instagram so they couldn't just with the click of a button create these dummy accounts and just bully other people. Like that's the thing that was like my first thought was it's like all all I've ever wanted. Even just have another email address, just one layer. Like, they've never done anything to protect us in that way. And that's a different conversation, but it pissed me off. Anything that's anonymous like this is going to be a breeding ground for bad behavior. I mean, Reddit is the most

vile place on the internet. You don't need, you don't need a real face. It's just an avatar. But I'm saying these people, they had to verify themselves to get on this app. I saw people saying, like, I got accepted into it. Like, there's a little bit of friction to get into it. So you're saying that's good. Yes. I'm saying I wish Instagram verified people's identity. And I've seen think pieces on this and people talk about like they could easily do it. They could easily have a separate email address to create an account. You can create an account in seconds and it's so gross to me. And yes, you can block someone in all of their accounts, which is a nice feature in recent years. So yeah, I don't know where the Tapp stands now. Is it, were you out on it? I don't think people feel safe.

So they said, you know, everything's fine. None of your actual data leaked. Okay. But just your selfies. But, I mean, that's a huge blow for an app that is, unfortunately, it's supposed to protect women. It's supposed to make you feel safe. Yeah. Like, unfortunately, the data was breached. So now you feel like you're at risk if you're on it.

Yeah. We had an app, this was so many years ago. I mean, 10 years ago, now at this point, maybe even more, called Lulu. I think it's now defunct. But it was a dating app where women could anonymously write men. Users could check out existing ratings. rate men themselves answer multiple choice questions about them and add positive or negative hashtags. And I don't know, back in those days, back in those days, it felt so lighthearted.

Like guys were like, am I in Lulu? Like, can you leave me a good review? I don't know. It's like people weren't going on. I was on it for a while. I was on there to speak so negatively. I don't know. It's just, it's bad out here.

It's just, I also think it's kind of unfair. And I am thinking about like if this happened to me, like, one person could have a bad date with me and another person could have the same date and really enjoy it. And like, I don't, like, I'm just thinking about this. one date I went on and he really shared a lot about his mental health and therapy and his ex. And I think some women would have really enjoyed like that level of depth from a person on a second date. For me, I felt a little uncomfortable. I felt like it was a little too much. But like I could write a very different review of that guy than somebody else.

And he's not some toxic person. Other people would enjoy him. So it's like where's the line? If you're writing that somebody's like crazy or too much, it's like that's your interpretation of that person. Yeah. And this isn't like in defense of men. It's just like if you use any of these, if the Facebook groups we've talked about before or this app or whatever it may be, just keep that in mind.

Yeah. You know. So people are saying, Pedro Pascal, a little handsy. It is the wildest press tour I've ever seen. So Pedro Pascal and Vanessa Kirby, it's a, they're on a press tour for their new movie, The Fantastic Four. It's. So I am not willing to disparage Pedro Pascal at this time.

Yeah. Yeah. We don't know. Like he, I was seeing things of just, he is very touchy. I guess he's come out and said that I have anxiety, so I need to grab on to somebody, which I don't love it. Maybe that was taken out of context. But he does touch his male co-stars, too.

I saw this tweet and we'll put up on the screen. It says, in quotes, Pedro Pascal doesn't touch other men like that. Every time he's with Oscar Isaac, they look like an old married couple. So he's not, I don't find him to be some, some creepy guy. You know, I think that him and Vanessa Kirby have agreed to act like this. she is stroking him in interviews too. Sure. I hold space for women to come forward and say I was forced to act a certain way or I was

uncomfortable. Ashley and I, like, believe women, of course. But like all of the photos and videos, first of all, she's pregnant and she's engaged. So she is with somebody else and all of the footage is him touching her belly. But she's also rubbing his neck.

She's stroking him. Yeah, like what is her partner thinking? But also people are open and they're fluid and like, it feels all consensual to me. I will turn on him in a second. I don't care. Watch us. He's not that. He's not Beyonce.

You know, but I'm just saying like, it's not just at this time. I'm not canceling him. But I want to tell people that actors are weird and they're going to act weird. And I'm sorry that you guys thought Patriot Pascal was not one of them. And I mean, I still think he has a great moral character and he's a good guy. And I'm still a fan today. But actors are fucking weird and I'm sorry. Not all of them, but like a lot of them.

I mean, if she's okay with that, to her. There's photos of them touching noses. I mean, they might as well be butterfly kissing. If that's what they want to do, I mean, it is drumming up a lot of press for the film. Obviously, Sidney and Glenn Powell, they invented this shit of being all over each other. No, Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga. All over each other. A first star is born. I mean, it's certainly something to talk about. Yeah. So, but there's more to, I mean, people have kind of run the tape and he is touchy. But who's to say what is going down and he appears to be like that with men too and no i i don't like that someone's like i'm sorry i'm just anxious i have to grab you what i'm feeling that way that's not

i got to rub your belly and we have to touch noses but i don't really know what's going on but anyway you know i do like to hang all over people like that would be me like rubbing somebody's neck in an interview no like the interview one of i think one of the more shocking ones was her touching on him That's what I'm saying. Rubbing his neck, that would be me. I would be like, oh, are you anxious? I'll touch you. I'll sit on your lap.

And honestly, the only real victim here is her partner. And if he doesn't care, the only real victim here. That guy looks like a real bitch. So anyway, that's the Pedro. This is a developing story. Listen, as Ashley said, we'll turn on him in a heartbeat. We'll turn on anybody in a heartbeat. Honestly, try us.

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She is the longtime star of Vanderpump Rules and the author of My Good Side. please welcome to the show Sheena Shay. Hello. Hi. So you're on a book tour. Yeah. I am. I'm all over the place.

I'm like, I don't know what time zone I'm in. Last night I was in Boston, but I, for a second, thought I was in Chicago. Talking about a lake and not the ocean. And yeah, I'm like, where am I? I love that. We tour too. We've toured for so many years. I'm like, what airport am I in?

Like, I have been in like, I literally was like, landed and it had to be like you're in Denver, you're in Denver. Like I forgot. Yeah, this is my first tour. So this is all, I mean, and it's this leg is five nights in a row, a different city every night, morning flights. It's, yes. Thanks. Yeah. Okay. So I want to say to you, I read the book, cover to cover. It's great. And you're really open. I mean, you share a lot of tea, a lot of background on Banner Pump and your early time in Hollywood. You're from L.N. But a lot of the book early on is just about like your time and danderpump and different storylines and not being able to control the narrative all the time and feeling, for lack of better words, manipulated a little bit into certain things, saying things, tweeting things. How does it feel to have your own book and be able to just that all the narrative is yours?

Yeah, it feels great. This is something that I've wanted to do for a while. and finally just, you know, I would say putting pen to paper, but putting nails to a keyboard, I did it. And I just felt like it was time for me to take back the reins of my own story, tell it in my words, with my editing control, because I've never really had that privilege in the last 13 years I've been on TV. So it felt good to just finally put it all out exactly as I wanted out.

Has the response been amazing? I have pretty much stayed out of the comment section the last couple of weeks because I didn't want that to affect me going on tour, just seeing anything negative. So, I mean, from everyone who I've interviewed with and people who have met me at my live shows and Reddit, the response has been great. Online, couldn't tell you. But it looks good to me. It looks great. It looks great. It looks great. Awesome. I think people just appreciate the transparency and the authenticity and it just, you didn't hold back. Yeah, but that's what also people have a problem with. Oh, right. And they're like, well, why are she talking about this? And I'm like, okay, but then if I didn't talk about it and it comes out one day, then I either have to lie about it or then it's coming out again, not with my own control. So I figured I would just put it all out there because I have learned that I'm damned if I do and I'm damned if I don't. So, fuck it. So, I mean, in terms of controlling the narrative, the biggest revelation in the book, which you talked about with a lot of care and grace, I think, is that your husband had an affair. And you did not talk about this on Vanderpumpurals.

And I think that it really shows your respect for your relationship and him that you really did not want to speak about this until you were fully in charge of how it would play out. I just didn't know what I was going to do. at the time. I hadn't fully processed it. I was only thinking about my daughter. That was my main concern. You know, if we talk about that this season, I don't know that our marriage is going to survive. I had so much anger towards him that entire season that it just would have been really bad. And then I would have had all of the outside noise and opinions, well, you should stay for your family. You should leave for the betrayal. Like, I just didn't want any opinions. I needed to figure out for myself what I needed to do. And

that was to, you know, keep it secret until I figured it out. And once we started writing the book, it was, you know, going to go in, then it wasn't going to go in. And we went back and forth for so many months. And the day after the book sold, there was a leak and a blind item about this potential chapter. And so, yes, that kind of forced our hand. But at the end of the day, I'm like, I'm writing a memoir and how inauthentic would it be to not talk about this huge monumental thing that happened in my life, how I overcame it, how I worked towards forgiveness. It just felt like my story would be incomplete and missing a literal chapter to leave it out. And he encouraged you to share it all. I want to say encouraged by he was like. But if you're going to share it, share the full story, I guess.

Because he was just like, hell no, not going in the book. This is a private family matter. And I'm like, okay, well, it's not your choice. You know, you did this. But I went back and forth like, okay, let's weigh the pros. Let's weigh the cons. And then once I wrote the first draft of the chapter, it was very vague. It didn't have as many details.

And I read it to him out loud. And he was just like, no, that's not going in the book. book. And I was like, well, it might be. He goes, no. What I'm saying is if you're going to put it in the book, then say it all. He's like this vague beating around the bush shit. Like, that's not going in the book. And so I was like, all right. So I went, added a ton more details, asked him if he wanted to read it before it was due. And he said, no, it's your story. I want you to tell it however you want to tell it. And I was like, are you sure? I'm about to hit send. I'm sending it in. And I did. And he did not read it until we got a physical hard copy of the book like a few weeks ago.

And how did he feel? I'm sure it sounds like he's been supportive. I mean, it was obviously hurtful to read. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, oh, wow, you really didn't hold back. And I don't think he realized at the time how much I was going through. And so that was really hard for him to just see it all, read it all, and have to, you know, relive it. It's the thing with reality TV that we do. We film it and then we relive it. But with the book. We lived it. We moved past it. I forgave him. But then now we're reliving it. Right. Wow. Well, I just, I thank you for sharing. I love that he was like, no, share the whole story. And I've trust you essentially is what he was saying when you were like I'm about to hit send.

Exactly. You're really raw, especially like the last two chapters of the book. You really unpack mental health and emotional wellness. And you know, you say, unfortunately, as we're, you say, unfortunately, as a result of my rocky history of men, I no longer believe in forever between Shea's addiction, his lies, Brock's infidelity. I've become more weary than I probably need to be, but there's nothing I can do to change that. It's really raw to say, you know, I've had two marriages now. They're not perfect. Do you feel like if you would have put this on the last season of Vanderpump, how do you think it would have affected your marriage? I don't think our marriage would have survived. And I don't think it would have been received well by the audience. I don't think

he would have had anyone on his side, you know, and I think everyone would have said that I was trying to be Ariana, take that story, make it about me, and that was the last thing I wanted it to do. I wasn't ready to process it. I just had so much going on in my head and in my heart, and I was not ready to say those words out loud to film about it. It just, it wasn't the right time. I needed a lot more time to process it. Yeah.

And protect your daughter. There's another person involved. Exactly. So we saw a headline that said that none of your friends have reached out since the book came out. The cast. The cast. Sorry, not new your friends.

Like, is that true or what's the story there? We just saw that. So I wasn't sure. Not everyone has posted in support of me if that's what they mean. I mean, and that's a public thing. You know, if you have public figures who don't post something, people are going to notice and comment on it. that has been brought up at some of my live shows. I've been so busy, as I don't even know what city I'm in.

But yeah, it's been pointed out to me. They're like, oh, so-and-so didn't post. This person didn't post. And I'm like, oh, that's sad because I've always supported them and I've always posted their endeavors. So it's unfortunate when you don't get the support from everyone. But we've experienced that. You know, it's not to make it about us, but it's just one of those things. And you're just like, well, I'm going to keep doing me and thrive. then. Yeah. I sent a nice fun PR box to all of my friends and a couple people posted. Yeah. And you're like, well, it's been noted. Just when before you published the book, I'm curious, like, did you share what had happened with Brock with the other cast members? Did Tom Sandable know? Did Arianna know? And like, what was the response? They didn't know. I didn't share it with them because we're not super close anymore. There were other people I shared it with more recently because I didn't want them to find out about it with the world in this excerpt coming out. But then I found out a couple of those people shared it with other people. And I'm like, this is exactly why I didn't open up about

this sooner. So I'm just thankful that it didn't leak because the whole point of me even talking about it was to have agency was to be able to put it out in my own way. So again, that was frustrating. that, you know, I learned, okay, so I can't trust everyone who I think I can. And that was kind of a wake-up call to me. I felt like Scandival took a lot of trust from me and then, you know, with Brock's infidelity, but the last two and a half years, I've spent rebuilding trust and rebuilding friendships. And so that was really disappointing to find out that a couple people told other people. I'm not going to name names. Okay. Well, I think it's really brave and I think it probably helped a lot of people that have been through these situations, decide what to do. And I think

you did the right thing for your family. It's one size fits one. Everybody responds differently to affairs. Everybody's affairs is different. Everybody's experience. And I think that a lot of people will just take strength from your experience. I hope so. I mean, that's also why I wanted to put it out there to show that, you know, for everyone staying after infidelity, it's not for everyone. Absolutely. Trust has been broken. I get that. But I also wanted to show that. that you can do it. It is possible. And it takes a lot of work. It takes strength. It takes forgiveness. It's not an easy road. I don't think leaving's an easy road, especially when you have a kid. So I think either decision that I would have made would have taken incredible strength. And

I was proud of myself for being able to work towards a path of forgiveness. And I just felt like it was a story that needed to be told because it's a huge part of my story. And it's really, shaped our relationship now. Mm-hmm. Well, thank you for sharing all that. We're going to pivot a little bit. We only have a few minutes left, but we really loved just all the, like, hookup stories and tea and naming names.

Like, I just, we couldn't get enough of it. So we just like, name on. I want to name. The phone sex, threesome. I want, I think, Sheena, this is one of the funniest, most unhinged best P paragraphs I have ever read in my entire life. You say, you're like, I'll just talk about every day to Jesse Metcalf, Eddie Sibrian, John Mayer, Sherman Moore, Josh Hoppins, Marmore, Shain West, Jesse McCarthy, J.C. Chazzei, Adrian

Grenier, Ricardo, I mean, there's so much. You go on on NFL, NBA, MLB, and two actors from the notebook. Was it the guy that played old Ryan Gosling? I don't remember what the characters in that movie were. I can't remember I just know. Yeah, I just remember there was two. Well, there was three because there was old man Ryan Gosling. Oh, my God, the old man?

Oh, that it was visiting her at the nursing home. Oh, God. Oh, my God. Oh, well, the guy from entourage was in the notebook, but he was also an entourage. Anyway. We think we know what you're talking about. But it's just, it's a fun pivot in the book to talk about these like early days of living in L.A. and all these celebrities.

And what did I send, Raina? I circled something. I was like, what does this mean? And you were like, I don't know. Let's ask her. So we'll ask. You can answer if you want. It says controversial phone sex with John Mayer.

ChatGPT called it controversial. Oh, I'm like, did I say it was controversial? It's, we looked something up in chat, GPT, and it says sheena revisits her early years, yada, yada. And this says John Mayer, including controversial phone sex. So maybe it wasn't controversial to you. No, I think exactly what I said in the book is it seemed like he was really into phone sex. Okay. Got it.

Because he was into it. I mean, Sheena, you're really spicy and, like, sexual and like you've like bagged all these guys. Who was, okay, of all these guys, if you can give us the take. Who is the most generous lover? Ooh, out of the names in that paragraph. Yeah. Shamar. Okay.

Who is. Shmar more so hot. Can you tell us who was the least generous lover? Room for improvement? Adrian. Oh, any chase. Who, okay, who would you go back to for seconds? I know you're married.

Is that bad? Is that bad? I mean, yeah, I'm married, so I can't even think about that. Okay. Shamar. So what would you recommend other women go to for first? No, I would say, Jesse Metcalfe is an absolute doll. the fact that, I mean, I know he has a girlfriend now, but I'm like, the fact that he hasn't, like,

been married and all of that, like, I definitely saw that for him because he's a great guy. So does, I guess the question is twofold in terms of Brock. Does, did he know all that? And yes. He before the book. Yes. Okay. He outed me at my live podcast show, like a year and a half ago about Shamar.

He's like, what about that guy from SWAT? Like, in front of a whole live audience, like, 250. people. And I was like, what? And he's like, what was his name again? The criminal minds guy? And I was like, honey, that has not been public. But thank you for making it public. Now I'll put it in the book. No, yeah, okay. I love that. I was just wondering if he read the book and was like, oh, I didn't know that one. Honestly, he probably doesn't even know who half of those names are. Oh, that's a good list. Right. Yeah. He didn't even know Shamar's name. He just knew him from all of the swap billboards. We would just drive past and laugh. So was there ever a point where you were like, okay, like, I just, it's

these rich famous guys are just not for me. Like, did you ever hit a point where you felt like that? And we're like, maybe I'll pivot. Well, I do go into that, which is why I started dating Colin. And that chapter kind of tells that story of just being over dating these famous guys, wanting a guy who was normal and just didn't feel good enough. Have you heard from any of these guys that you named in the book that are like, that's what that's what that?

Um, Jesse and I have been kind of, um, not McCartney, Metcalf, I'm to specify. Oh, right. We've been kind of going back and forth in podcasts. Like he says something about me. I say something about him. So we haven't directly talked about it. But, um, other than him, no, I don't think I've heard from anyone. I mean, you didn't disparage anybody.

I don't know what you would hear anything from, except for Eddie Sibrian who was having it fair with you. I mean, that's proven that he was duplicitous and lied to you. And I mean, what is he going to say? Right. That didn't happen. Exactly. Your journey and reality TV is, in your career, ups and downs, tumultuous, you share a lot. And we really, like, respected you sharing your feelings throughout. Just like, like Raina said, kind of feeling manipulated at times and kind of just bad edits and just maybe being strung along here and there. But, Would you do it all again? I mean, would you do it differently? I guess that's probably a loaded question. Yeah, I would definitely do things a lot differently. I could tell you something different. I do

probably every season. But I would absolutely do it all again. I am thankful that I decided to do a reality show just because as much as, you know, you see a cringe side of me and you don't always get the full story, it does still open the door to so many other opportunities and gives you the platform to speak on things like mental health and things that are important to me. So just knowing that by me sharing my story is helping other people either get a proper diagnosis or just feel less alone, I know that I'm doing the right thing and I'm on the right path. I could not agree with you more and I'm really happy for you. And the book is such a wealth of fun tea and behind the scenes.

But a lot of mental health advice and you just being vulnerable about your story. And the best thing you can do is just share that it happened to you and other people will find community in that. Yeah. Okay, so everybody can find the book wherever they get their books. And do you want to talk any about the tour? Do you have dates? Like, how long is this tour running? Do you have anything else you want to plug? We're in Cincinnati, Nashville, Philadelphia. Nice. I think that's it. Yeah. Okay. What's the website? Mygoodsidebook.com. So all of the info is there. And yeah, we might add some other dates. I don't know. I'm just, like going from city to city right now. I'm like, just tell me where I need to be, where I need

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What? So Katie Perry is rumored to be dating Justin Trudeau. What? This was not on my bingo card. They were photographed out at dinner together. You just don't see like politician pop star. No. Ever.

Isn't that an interesting match? That is. I don't even know what to say about it. She's just, I know I sprung this on you. She's like an American girlie. I thought maybe she Canadian. No. But like you just don't see it.

He's separated from his wife. I think his ex-wife now, obviously. It's an interesting match. What a weird year for. her. She's just going to space. Now she's an astronaut and now she's a politician's wife. Anyway,

what in the world? That's a crazy headline that I just saw a few minutes that I had to tell you about. And then the tour and the people, I need a documentary on Katie Perry's 2025. I know. She got range. She has range. She has range. Okay, E News is canceled.

What end of an era. 34 years on the air. I mean, that show like raised me. When I was a kid, I used to like really. look for when I was a kid. Yeah, I literally I was a kid. I really looked forward

to watching it. And I loved Julianna Rancic and Katzadler. I mean, it launched people's career. Absolutely. So that was sad to see. So they say that they're

committed to keeping their online brand. It's still going to be an Instagram and a website. You can get all your news there. But it does feel like an end of an era. And it's almost like, okay, like one of you, it's almost like people aren't watching TV.

Right. But like I get upset and then I'm like, oh, I'm the problem. Like, it's like when a restaurant that you love closes and you're like, I love it so much. I feel like, one was the last time you went and it's like five years ago was the last time I went. Like, E-News. I loved E-News. When was the last time I watched it on television?

Right. I don't know. Yeah. Five years ago? 10 years ago? I don't think I've ever claimed to be like a real hardcore viewer of the show, but I would watch it for red carpet. Uh-huh. So I'm like a, I would watch E for Red Carpet.

That's not E-News, right? It's a different thing. Yeah, but it's the same. It's the same people. Yeah. I'm just, I'm such like a pop news kind of girly reality star news. So end of an era. So Crischel Stalce of Selling Sunset marries G-flip for a third time in medieval themed wedding.

Okay. So I saw that they got married and I was like, what is happening here? Because like, I'm like, I swear to God they have been married. And so here's the tea. They get married once a year. They do? That's their thing. They get married every year.

They got married two julys ago and last July. and this July. And I, because I was like, why do I feel like they just keep getting married? And I love to get married. I mean, I don't know. As someone who's planning a wedding, it couldn't be me. But good for them if they can do it. And they're able to handle it.

They have the time and the energy. Good for them. That is so funny. I didn't really think about the energy that goes into planning wedding. I was like, that's cool to celebrate every year. Like, it's a birthday party. You don't have to do it all out every time. One thing I want to throw in and then we'll end with a bang is Carrie and Aiden

and broke up on and just like that. And I did not watch it. I've considered watching this episode. People told me it was a really good episode. I'm committed. I don't want to watch it. I have not watched it since I said I quit. But anyway, they did break up.

So they subjected us to the truck phone sex. Just as I was healing. Right. Like, why did they even bring Aiden into the mix? It's just to torture us? Couldn't you guys have just gotten somebody else? Like, can't we just have like a new love interest? People aren't dynamic.

They don't evolve. I guess she does have a new. of interest. I don't know. Again, I'm just basing off the memes. And then the Cowboy Carter Tour. So Beyonce's Cowboy Carter Tour ended in Vegas last weekend. Highest grossing country tour ever. The racists are furious. That's really crazy. Highest grossing country tour by Beyonce. I guess I love to see it. Every week we have to talk about whether I understand stadium sizes and who can sell what. I mean, when I think I'm like bigger than Morgan Wallen, bigger than Zach Ryan. But like, she is a stadium artist.

Stadium, different than Arena. Yeah. I would have got, I would guess I would have guessed Garth Brooks. Oh, yeah. But whatever, she's the biggest. That's pretty, he is the number one selling concert artist, artist, I think. In the world? Well, don't check us on that.

But she has dethroned him. That's, well, in country, but that's crazy. And then Destiny's Child reunited at the end of the show. Like, oh my God, Raina. But I will say, the amount of times I, my fiancee has woken up to me, gasping about Beyonce is like more than I can count on two hands. Like I woke up, I opened my phone. First thing I saw was Destiny's Child closing out the Vegas show, losing my mind.

So she also had Jay-Z and Shibuzi. I mean, it was the last show of the tour, would you expect. But to have Michelle and Kelly, Michelle did struggle with those steps a little bit. I was wondering if you noticed that, but everybody noticed, right? But Michelle always struggles to get the beat a little bit. Yes, it's her thing. She's queen of the bridge and you got to love her. but she's not as tight.

But I could not strut down steps on beat, not looking down. Well, they rehearsed. I'm just saying, like, she hasn't been in the game, right? It's like I couldn't do it, so I'm not knocking it, but she did. She was not as smooth as Beyonce and Kelly. I was like, people are going to, like, really see this. I am so bitter about this show because I wanted to go. And then I was like, no.

And I did see, like, the. most important show you can see, which is Travis and Taylor in London. So I got my like one thing. But I am so sad I didn't go to this. What an iconic moment. I'll just never get to realize. I mean unbelievable. Like it's just you love to see it and they all looked great. They all looked phenomenal. And even Michelle, you know, those steps almost took her out, but she went with it. And I just love to see it. So thank you, Beyonce for doing that. We'll see at the next concert. At the biggest country tour in history. Yeah. Okay. Well, we hope you guys enjoyed the snack and the interview. You guys can find us at

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