Girls Gotta Eat - The Snack: Summer House, Bennifer, and Bushes Are Back
Episode Date: June 6, 2024Hope you enjoy our first episode of The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about (in order): Are Bushes Back? How Khloe Kardashian lost her camel toe Kourtney ...and Travis's prayer game Summer House – the season overall (especially Lindsay and Carl) JLo cancelling her tour + Bennifer breakup rumors What we've been watching: Bridgerton, Tires, Hacks The season's latest spicy trend and would you wear it? Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for tour dates, merchandise, and more. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome to The Snack, a lighter serving of Girls Got to Eat.
This is a dear media production.
Enjoy.
This is our first episode of our second episode.
The first episode.
I almost wrote that an email today.
I was like, it's going to be our, I was reaching up to Spotify.
It's our first of our second.
And I was like, fuck it.
Delete, delete, delete.
It's the first episode of the snack.
Big Thursday energy.
Yes.
I'm so amped.
June 6th.
We only launched new babies on the 6th.
We launched our last company on the 6th.
for launching our second episode on June 6.
We love it.
Love it.
Six.
You are dressed in coastal grandma.
Coastal grandma slut.
Okay.
You know what I was thinking.
If your grandma just got, her husband died and she was out on a dock in Martha's
vineyard trying to be sexy and catch some passing by.
Old man, dick.
Boat captain.
Yeah.
This is what she would wear.
So I was, you and I have like really such a knack for wearing the exact same outfit.
Like you changed the other day and we both showed up in like black cargo plants and a black top.
Plants.
Yeah.
that's what it is. I'm sticking to it. We always show up in like green and black the same time. Today we showed up in white and jean and I was like how do we do this? And I was thinking I look like so chic and sexy. And you were like you look like you're sitting on a dock. It's not not chic and sexy. But then you have these slippers. Like this is everyone's like grandma. But like no bra. You know. And then this cardigan, I've never really let a lot of guy shop for me. But I let him buy me this. I was just drunk enough to let him buy it for me. This is the sweater that guy bought you?
Not the guy buying you a cardigan.
Everyone's like, got it at that rain.
It was the sexy one.
Is that the least sexy piece of clothing?
A man has ever bought for somebody.
A cardigan.
A wool-knit cardigan.
I remember one time I was dating this guy.
It was the guy I met at DUI school.
And he bought me a thong.
Like we were at this boutique.
Remember hanky-pankies that used to be rolled up?
I love them.
Like a little, like a joint and like a bowl at like the checkout counter of a like local boutique.
Yeah.
And he bought me this like.
little rolled up hanky-panky. I was like, that is so hot. It is. No, like, stick in your mouth.
Okay, well, guys, this is a snack, and we're talking about pop culture and things that are happening
in the world, breaking them down, hopefully giving you hot takes and laughs and all the things.
But we're going to open strong with a pussy report. Cue the news music with horses are back,
but it's hairy out there, which is, it's going to be a wet, hairy summer. It's, you and I went the wrong
direction. So here's the thing. Are they though? Like listen, I think you should always do what you feel
comfortable with your body parts, your body hair. Like don't do something that's like, body parts should
never be like trending. Like you shouldn't be like, oh no, I have to do this thing to the detriment
of my own comfort level. But I do find it interesting that this is like a headline out there.
It really made me think like now that you and I have almost finished our vagina wax or vagina laser
journeys. I do miss just being a little hairy down there sometimes. I don't, but I, this was why I was
scared to get laser because I was like, what if we regret this? Bush just come back and I had this
big bush. I could be so untrend or I was scared that I would end up with a partner who that was
his fetish and I wouldn't be able to get it back. And I'd have to wear Merkin. Are those real?
Well, we're going to get to a really hot. We're going to talk about it. We're going to talk about Merkin.
Okay. And I actually don't mind, by the way, because I can't grow like a full bush. It just does.
It's not like a beautiful voluminous boy.
She's kind of like flat, matted down and blonde.
Nobody wants it.
I don't have like a 1970s like porn-ass bush.
So I, because I can't do that.
Matted down, your bush has hathead.
It's like you wear a hat all day.
That's what your bush looks like.
Okay, so we found this headline, and it's on the cut, which is we love the cut.
It's New York Mag.
And the headline was it's going to be a hairy summer.
And again, this just could be fun fodder, clickbait type of articles.
but they did reference Doja Cat, which she wore on the red carpet recently, like a sheer dress with like a bush.
Like that's iconic.
To wear.
To accessorize your outfit with a bush.
Highlight your bush.
Amazing.
Because I love sheer.
Like we're so all about freeing the nipple.
Like we're going to free the puss.
I never thought of it.
This is just going to be like.
And it's not even like slits out for Christmas.
Like right.
Like let that coochie breathe.
Like sexy red set.
Okay.
So there was Doja Cat.
And then there was the Julia Fox outfit.
That was like a, this was a little while back, but the bikini bottoms that had like a bush printed on them.
Like you're like cosplay in a bush.
If somebody was going to do that, it's Julia Fox.
And then it said that this started with a recent, this is like some fancy couture shit,
but Maison Margella artisanal collection.
I think it's John Galliano that went super viral at the end of January, in part due to sheer dresses that featured hand-embroidered Merkins' work.
underneath. So that kind of started the whole thing. Luxury Merkins.
Is it real hair? Do you think it's real badge hair? Oh, like,
a luxury Merkin. I'm thinking like, I want the real thing, like a real fur. Like, do you think it's real
pubic hair? Like people donate their pussy hair. Yeah. To like people. Like people like you and me who can't
grow it. Okay, so the bushes are back in it. They're one of the lines from the article.
said it seems highly doubtful that these body hair forward fashions will catch on beyond the rich
and famous looking for some free press. But in terms of personal grooming, pubic hair does seem to
be back in vogue amongst the masses as well. I miss it sometimes. I just, I like when they
just grow a little bit. Makes me very feminine. I just, yeah, I mean, this was what I struggled
with and then I just went full send on the laser. It's less maintenance. Yeah, I don't have to think
about it. But for me, I've always said it really has nothing to do with culture, like what a man would
prefer. It's like my own like comfort and then just being able to always be bikini ready.
Yeah. Not that it's warm in California, but if it were and we were just going to the beach every day,
you know, that's what I like the most about getting laser is like I'm always ready to just like throw in
a bikini and not be like, oh, I got to get in the shower and shave the sides of my vagina, you know.
And then the other pussy report is the Ozempic vagina. And people, I didn't, I didn't really
ever think about this. I just made this up. Oh. But so. So,
Kardashians are back on Hulu and we're two episodes in right now.
I guess three as this episode drops and Chloe is talking about how she lost weight,
her vagina shrunk and I'm not saying Chloe Kardashian's on OZempect, do you girl?
But she talked about how she's lost weight and her vagina got, like the lips got less
puffy.
Her she lost her camel toe.
Yeah.
So as she lost weight.
Yeah.
Now I'm thinking like our Ozempic vagina is going to be in vogue now that everybody's on
Ozempic losing weight.
I don't think not puffy vaginas anymore.
Hold on a second.
First of all, let's back up.
I watched this episode last night.
The way that the whole conversation starts is with her saying the term micro-puss.
So they say micro-p penis, and then she's like, micro-puss.
And I'm like, where is this going to go?
And then she says that she lost her camel toe when she lost weight, which she called,
she kind of taken ownership of the camel-toe.
Like, she was like the leader of our community.
Like, this is like a tragic loss to the camel-toe community that we've lost.
Such an influential,
iconic member.
But she had called it Camille.
Like she named her Cameltoe with a C,
interesting Lena.
You think it would be a K?
And she said that she,
I don't like that she called herself fat.
Like I never thought of her as fat,
but she was like,
it was bigger when I was fat, basically.
Oh, did she say the word fat?
Yeah, she said the word fat,
which is just like, whatever.
She can talk about her body the way that she wants.
Everybody else talks about her body.
She can certainly talk about it however she wants.
That's what she said.
So she just said she's kind of lost her camel toe.
when she lost weight, which is like a hilarious headline also.
Like I saw this on Instagram, like best headline of the day, Chloe Kardashian said she lost her camel toe when she lost weight.
But I mean, I was thinking about this.
To me, an ozempic vagina would be like saggy.
Because you lose like, you lose weight and it's just saggy looking.
But I don't know.
Okay.
So people have always said, skinny fat.
People have always said.
Your pussy's skinny fat.
She needs to go to the gym.
He needs a leg day.
So my vagina, I've always had a puffy vagina.
Everybody's always said that.
But I don't think that anybody was referring to the lips because I don't have a camel toe.
So I think it's the upper part.
So it's like puffy.
I have been like a proud, again, member of the camel toe community.
But it started with something very early on in the podcast, like episode two or three of girls got to eat,
where I was walking in New York City and this homeless man got right in my face and said,
whoa, camel toe.
I was just like stunned.
I talked about it in my stand up, but it was like crazy.
I could not wait to tell you.
We knew our podcast.
We were newer friends.
And I could not wait to share that with you.
And some days I do have one.
I mean, I wear leggings a lot.
I don't think I have like an Excel vagina.
Has your vagina fluctuated as you've gained and lost weight?
You've never been heavy since I've known you.
But I have lost.
Yeah, I do fluctuate and I have like lost weight since like I went off the
pill and stuff like that. I don't really know that I've like noticed a difference. A lot of it's
also how your pants fit and a lot of quality of leggings, you know, like a lot of leggings will be
like they have like the gusset or whatever, the anti-camel toe. Slicing up in there.
But I also just I can I can see where you it would be kind of like a symptom of the foop.
But like I can see how like a weight loss might affect the camel toe. But I don't know that
your like vagina shrinks when you lose weight, but I'm not a doctor. And I still am like always
like proud to have one like I don't I don't mind you're beating the drum like my boyfriend
I'll be like walk like I was taking a walk yesterday he facetiming and he was like let me see the CT
he says let me see the CT no that's your guys's dirty talk let me see that camel toe
CT I love you guys um what an icon so it's like a joke like I don't know like what man doesn't
want to see the outline of your vagina totally um I think I just have a prominent vagina bone I think
it just sticks out yeah it's just my vagina is not flush to my body
it's an outy.
Like the bone is an outy.
The stuff inside of it's an iny.
I have a nice looking vagina.
Yeah.
Anyways, Kardashians.
I'm liking this new season.
I love every season.
Yeah.
Later in the episode, Chloe also talked about
if she is such beautiful feet.
I was like, I love her.
She is me.
I want to ask you about this.
So Chloe is explaining to Chris
how to jerk somebody off with your feet.
Yeah.
And I always think about like the pre-production meetings
and like the shot list and the call sheet and like
what we're going to talk about.
Like, do you think like,
Chloe shows Chris how to jerk someone off with her feet, like was on the list for the day.
Or do you think Chloe is just coming up with this in the moment?
They're really not holding back this season.
Like the first episode, Chloe is talking about how Chris used to have her basically DD at age 14, told her she had a government-issued license, just lied to her.
And she would drive Chris around drunk.
Chris was throwing up.
The throw-up was coming back in the car.
I was like, is this for real?
Like, they don't give a fuck.
They also had a baby shower that, like, Courtney had COVID.
And I was like, oh, what are people going to say about that?
Which I wasn't bothered by it.
They, like, kept people away.
But, I mean, people are still get a little rile up about COVID and people had stuff to say.
Like, I was checking Twitter.
Courtney has found her calling.
There is a part of the episode where she is sitting at home doing sleep stories.
Just barely has to move or raise her voice.
And I was like, Courtney has found the thing that she was born to do.
Just sit at home and talk in a monotone voice.
Okay, can I just say something?
And like, no offense to, like, Christianity.
But, like, Courtney has to do, like, a prayer for truth.
Okay.
I was really confused about that, Ashley.
Can you imagine if your man was like, babe, can you say my prayer to me?
Can you say my, can you do our prayer?
And I was like, oh, she used to do it every show.
I would be like, babe, you get one prayer, a quarter.
If we're into God like that
Like every show
You're on tour I gotta pray
Can you just hire a priest?
I have to pray for your fingers every show
And talk about a wall of fire
Okay, can you explain to me the wall of fire?
So I made, I put it in my notes for the day.
She's like, I hope the wall of fire engulfs you
And then at the end of the prayer
She's like, I hope you don't catch on fire
And that you're safe from the fire.
Like is it a metaphorical ring of fire
Or does like blink 182 like set fire off on stage?
So if you guys haven't seen it, basically, like, before Travis goes on stage.
You guys, that was a perfect summation of the prayer.
That was the prayer.
But yes, he FaceTimes and he's like, babe, can we do my prayer?
And she used to, like, say this prayer.
And you can watch her trying to remember the parts of it.
She just has to kind of ad lib here and there.
Like, she knows the wall of fire.
God protect Travis, protect his fingers, have him, you know, not fall off the stage.
And then she kind of like improvs towards the end.
Then it's like, God is good.
Amen.
Like, it's just, she lost the plot halfway through.
There he is.
But when I was like, oh, this is nice.
Like, maybe it's a big show.
maybe it's like the start of a tour and then I think it's like every show which listen that's
I'm sure some people really get off on this and that's totally fine like we're just the show is like
going to be us like you know talking shit and it's all in like good fun and I mean I support whatever
you believe in and you want to pray and all that stuff too I mean I get it it's like I think he has like
fears and he's has the fear of flying and he's been through a lot in his life and so is everybody and so
I don't hate the sentiment and they also have like a beautiful relationship and I love them together
and I love their love I don't you know as what I
I'm not the biggest Courtney fan, but I like love their love.
And it's like cute, but it's funny because I'm also not like religious.
Okay, but to close the gap.
Okay, sorry, I didn't answer you.
It's not, it's not, it's a metaphorical ring of fire.
Yeah, I think it's, but when she says later, I hope you don't get burned by the fire.
You're right?
I don't think she said engulf him in a wall of fire.
She said she said, she said, encircle him in the fire.
Trayette so Google the prayer.
You're Jewish.
You wouldn't understand.
I'm kidding.
No, she just meant like, protect.
You feel like, good luck out there, team.
I just was like, oh, they're showing the prayer again.
In the, like, editing room, I thought they'd be like, guys, we can cut the prayer
because we did the prayer on the first episode.
Are we going to hear the prayer?
I hope so.
I hope we open every episode of the Kardashians.
Like, may fire and ice encircle the Kardashians for us to have a good episode.
Don't get burned by the ice or the fire.
Chloe's pussy.
I'm just, I'm like, I like, I'm like,
please let this wall of fire preserve Chloe's big pussy.
The last thing I'll say about it is I like the whole thing of Courtney and Kim and they,
they had a feud for so many years.
I mean, they physically assaulted each other.
And last season ended with like Kim saying some pretty terrible stuff to Courtney on the phone.
Courtney doesn't know it's being filmed.
So this season, Courtney's like, we're in a good place.
It's such a weird misconception that everybody thinks we hate each other.
So what they do is they have these things happen and then I feel like they,
they see what everyone says about them and then they take the next season to like walk stuff
back or explain or apologize and it's fine I get it also the whole season yet again is about
how hard Kim works like we get it he's not going to producer Kim's got to Kim well I support it I love
Kim's work ethic but it's so much it's like everyone's got to do a confessional about how hard
Kim works totally it's not even just like about how much Kim works it's how much everybody thinks
Kim works.
Kim works hard.
They're like,
Chloe,
talk about how much Kim works.
Kim's a machine.
Yeah.
But still, it's just like,
do we have to,
can everybody else,
like, I'd be like,
I want to talk about my shit.
Kendall's like,
I want to talk about my horses.
Why do I have to talk about
a hard Kim works?
Chloe is like, I have a humongous brand.
Kylie's like I became a billionaire
from lip gloss.
And they're like,
we got to talk about Kim's acting career.
Sorry.
And also just a fun anecdote is like,
if you're watching,
Kim mentions her divorce attorney,
who is Laura Wasser,
who is the divorce attorney to the stars,
and she was on Girl's Got to Eat in May of 2022.
Okay, and we loved her.
Okay, should we move on?
Yes.
Okay.
What's next?
Summer House.
You and I have waited so many months for the Summerhouse finale.
I mean, so has the nation.
And tonight is the reunion,
so we're very excited to see how it all kind of plays out.
This is like a year later.
I mean, I've lived Summer House since I'm a day one stand,
even like, but it wasn't even that great of a show.
But this season, I have just been dying to watch the breakup between Carl and Lindsay.
However, the whole season is building towards this.
And I loved every episode of it until because you really get to see behind the curtain of their
relationship as much as you ever can on reality television.
Yeah.
And I'll let you speak on it as our Bravo historian.
Thank you so much.
The season itself was just a case study in relationships.
I loved it so much.
Yes, the central theme was Carl and Lindsay and this ended engagement.
but you also have this struggling marriage with Amanda and Kyle,
and then this situation ship with Sierra and West,
and then a long-distance relationship with Paige and Craig,
and then Danielle just stays in her ho era.
Fucking balloon guy.
I just found the whole season so good on every level, every storyline.
Every single character bled out for the show this season.
Every character just brought it.
They had main character energy.
I think you see shows like Vanderpump that,
I really love, but there's one main storyline that carries the whole show through.
And if you don't care about that, you're like, can there be any other storylines here?
They really gave us so many storylines.
I loved Weston Sierra.
I mean, the whole season, I'm just so fascinated by it.
I'm just like, who are you going to date that's better than her?
I know.
And it really took a turn.
I'm very excited to see the reunion what's, like, been going on with the two of them.
Because the whole season, I thought that he was sort of chasing her and that it pivots to him being like, well, I don't know if I want to be in a relationship.
Yeah.
So Finale has given us what we have waited.
for all season through the fights of Carl and Lindsay to the actual breakup that he allegedly
called cameras back to film yeah i mean i want to share my stance i'm not a fan of lindsay i never
have been i think she exhibits narcissistic qualities i'm not trying to diagnose her and i think her
behavior about carl sobriety the first two episodes were abhorrent but i've softened a little
towards her i have a little more sympathy towards her eyes i think lindsay has her own trauma
and abandonment issues and all of that and again i'm not trying to straight up call her narcissists i just think
we see some of those qualities and I just think these two people are just so not a match.
I know the type of woman Carl should be with someone with more softness.
Somebody more tender?
Soft and tender.
Drink every time Carl said softness and tenderness.
I've been saying to tender to Ashley.
He learned it somewhere in therapy.
A therapist told him that.
But I don't know who Lindsay would work with.
I think Lindsay's on her own journey.
Like I don't, I don't know.
But I'm just saying like you saw why they're so.
poorly matched. And like, I started to sympathize with her towards the end of the season with all of
the conversations surrounding his career and his, you know, lack of drive and all that.
Yeah. Having been some, because I totally co-sign and agree everything you say, having been with somebody,
multiple people where like I tried to be a cheerleader for them professionally. I tried to give them
the tools that I could to help them. I tried to suggest stuff without telling them what to do. I think after
you've been along for the ride for so long,
it becomes really grating
and frustrating. And you're like,
I've given you the tools. I've tried to help you. You won't do
these things. I'm sitting around watching you not
achieve your potential at all.
And I don't like it. And on
the other side of things, I don't know what she's doing.
That's so much more impressive than him.
I think she's like riding him
to be more successful.
And I don't really know what she's doing besides
also being a star on Summerhouse
that he isn't. Yeah, we talked
about this when we broke when we guest
hosted on Nick Viles' podcast of like you have the same job.
Yeah.
And also you knew this about Carl.
You've been his best friend for eight years.
So you knew what you were getting into.
I guess I just watched the conversations unfold and could empathize a little bit, but also
just ultimately felt that they are such a mismatch.
Yeah.
I don't know that I could be like soft and tender after I listened to you complain about a job
for several years.
You don't have a job for a year.
And then you tell me your solutions to go back to the job that I listen to
complain about for two years.
Rightfully so.
maybe, but I would have a hard time being soft and tender in those moments as well.
And I think he maybe needs to be with somebody that has a little less of a history with him
that is ready to look at this through fresh eyes.
Yeah, and he needs to be with someone sober.
Yeah, that too.
Sober couples where one person is sober and one person is not can absolutely work.
But theirs does not.
And I do think maybe she is still in a place where she like gets drunk.
You know what I mean?
Because I would say, you know, for me personally, I'm like a moderate drinker.
I'm not seeking out so I'm in a relationship, but I wasn't, prior to that, I wasn't seeking
out someone sober, but I could probably work with it because I'm not someone that, like,
gets drunk and forgets and blacks out and, you know, gets angry and things like that anymore.
I used to be.
So I don't know.
They're not matched there either.
Yeah, I was with somebody for eight months who was sober, and it wasn't an issue in our
relationship, but not at all.
It was somebody who had sought help and they were fine.
I'm also not somebody who gets, like, so fucked up.
And I also don't have anger issues around drinking.
Like, I don't become a totally different person.
So yes, these people are mismatched.
And, you know, what makes somebody a great reality TV star is they give the audience so much.
They're almost having conversations with you before they have it with their partner.
But that is also what makes you a really bad partner.
And so, like, you're sort of watching them both have very different conversations with other people and not with each other.
And this was just a real mismatch.
And in the end, when he sort of ends it, she seems so blindsided to me as though this was normal what was happening throughout the summer.
this level and volume of fighting, name calling, screaming, swearing,
accusations, like, even if there's so much more than one on behind the scenes that you
and I are not privy to, it's still not healthy regardless for two people to be like that.
And her saying I'm blindsided, I mean, maybe you're just so in it.
You're like, I can't imagine a world where we wouldn't get married.
That's crazy.
You still have to acknowledge this was not healthy or a good way to live.
I wanted to discuss the blindsided thing.
Like, you're watching it.
You're like, how are you blindsided?
This relationship is a disaster.
but I still think she was like, but we're going to work it out and couples fight and everybody has a different bar of like what type of fighting and conflict is acceptable in a relationship.
And a lot of it is dependent on your upbringing and what went on your household and your past relationships and all that stuff.
So there's that too.
But I can still see how she thought they were going to get married and she was surprised.
I can absolutely see it.
I mean, I oscillate on that word whether I think she was blindsided or not.
Like I think she was like, I signed up for this.
I thought we were going to work it out.
He did later to believe like it's fine.
I want to marry you a lot of steps along the way.
And so I do understand.
But it's like you can't, I don't know, she can live for it.
She can say whatever she wants.
She can feel however she wants.
Like she's entitled to that.
But you watch it.
You're like, yes, yeah, obviously.
But you don't know that when you're in it.
I've been in really volatile relationships.
I was like, oh, we're going to bend up together.
This is it.
And then everyone from the outside is like, what a train wreck?
Yes.
I think everybody's baseline is different for what feels, quote, unquote, healthy and
normal.
and what like doesn't spike your anxiety.
I mean, if you grew up in a house where there's yelling and screaming all the time,
then yelling and screaming in a relationship doesn't really spike your levels the way it would for me
where I just, I like a lot of calmness.
And I think that their norm was a lot of fighting.
Her norm with every boyfriend has always been a lot of fighting.
Friends, like yelling.
Her norm with everybody is to get activated.
That's her brand to start yelling and screaming.
That's what makes her great reality television person.
but I understand from the other side of things,
he's like, this is not how I want to live forever.
And so, yes, I understand she felt blindsided
because her bar, her baseline is arguing like that.
Yes.
And I will say when the breakup happened,
I mean, Rayne and I were shook to our core.
We've been so into this.
We've been awaiting the season.
And he's been pretty mom,
but he had this New York Times article,
which Tessa put in our outline,
which I hadn't seen.
And I wanted to read a quote
because I do appreciate the quote
where he says,
I think probably watching the season back,
he came to this conclusion,
but he says,
I'm not proud of how I was handling the situation,
how I was treating her.
I mean, I was clearly frustrated,
and, you know,
so I wish I had really been more direct.
You can clearly see,
I'm struggling to communicate my feelings,
and that's not on her,
that's on me.
I'm seeing myself blame and play victim,
and I don't want to be either.
So, yes, of course,
you get to, like, watch it back,
and who knows how much of it was edited
or staged and whatnot,
but, like, I like that he was like,
yeah, I wasn't being direct.
Like, I'm sitting here saying,
like huge bomb.
My parents don't think we should get married,
but I don't think that and I still want to get married.
You know,
like you are going to hear what your partner is telling you.
If my partner is telling me like,
no, I'm still in this.
Come give me a hug.
We're going to work through it.
Then I'm going to take that for what it's worth.
There's no reason for her to dig any deeper into that than what he was telling her.
Are you sure?
Are you sure your parents don't hate me and so we shouldn't stay together,
you know?
Yeah.
The thing that I think is interesting is when you zoom out and you get about a year after a
breakup, like a horrible breakup. You might be blindsided in the moment, of course, and say a lot
of things publicly if you're a reality TV star, but a year later you would hope that you've
digested this and had some self-reflection and looked at your own, your own actions and
how it affected the outcome. And she had a profile in glamour. He had a profile in the New York
Times. And I, listen, I don't know either of them personally like this, but I like he can be
introspective and he can at least say, like, I didn't handle this well, I'm not proud of this,
I should have communicated better.
I read her article.
I didn't see a lot of like...
Yeah, she has not taken any responsibility.
I haven't seen a lot of her saying, you know, I really...
I did a lot of wrong here.
I accused somebody on national television of being on drugs.
She has said, you know, I wish I was softer.
That's not the same thing.
Well, that's when I come back to like the narcissistic qualities is like the refusal
to accept any responsibility.
Totally.
You become a much more sympathetic character when you do.
Like, it's in your best interest.
But I don't think she thinks like that.
I don't think she thinks she did anything wrong.
I don't think she does either.
And it benefits us all to at least look back and be like,
my behavior was a little embarrassing.
Here's how I would like to pivot in the future.
Right.
So I look forward to the reunion tonight.
I cannot wait to see what their dynamics is going to be.
Obviously, they're in the first chairs.
So I can't wait to see them together.
The seating chart.
She has a new boyfriend.
She's moved on.
Allegedly he is sober.
He's trying to stay single for a while.
And I can't wait to see it.
But both of them seemed, at least on the other end, very happy that this happened.
and positive about the outcome.
Okay, a few more things I just want to say.
So obviously he called the cameras back.
But which I guess way back when this happened back in August or whenever we heard the news,
I thought that there was longer between wrapping the summer and calling the cameras back.
It was only like three days.
It's not that crazy.
It's not like they were like totally wrapped and he weeks.
Wanderpump months went by.
Yes, yes, yes, right.
Exactly.
So calling the cameras back, when they had to have that breakup and just stay in the house,
I forgot they lived together for the moment.
I was like, oh my God, like, he's just in the kitchen and she's just in the bedroom.
Like, I kind of packs up and just leaves.
Like, what is that moment?
Have fun.
And then the girls get together was our favorite moment.
Like, the girls are all like, Paige was at a 12.
Like Paige was like, I'm living for this.
Like all those girls waiting for Lindsay to walk in.
I was like, oh my God.
Like Paige dropped my favorite line of the whole season and they're all hugging and they're like,
oh my God, I'm so sorry this happened.
And Paige goes, this is what happens when you don't.
your wedding.
I know, but couldn't even hide it.
Like, again, I think that whole moment that the girls get together to console Lindsay, obviously
they staged that and they wanted to end it on the sex in the city, the movie moment.
We're all going to Mexico for your honeymoon vibes, you know, which I get it.
But I appreciated it.
I love nothing more than just like a girl power finale, but felt so staged, but I was here
for it.
Lindsay felt all cried out for that one.
She couldn't squeeze a tear out if she tried.
during that one.
Yeah, I don't think she's a big cryer.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
That's so funny, though.
I really am thinking, like, all that they pack up production and they leave, and she's
just sitting there, and she's like, are we going to talk about this?
Yeah, that's crazy.
She has a different story than him in terms of picking up the cameras, and so maybe they'll
unpack it on television tonight.
Right, right, right.
They have said very different things about what happened.
Okay, up next.
J-Lo and Ben.
Benefer, if you will.
Benefer, number two.
Or J-Loh, yes, and just J-Lo in general.
Can I ask you a serious question?
Okay.
Were Ben and Jen Garner also Benefer?
No, I don't think so.
Or was like Benefer Benefer in like 2002 and then he got with his second Jennifer and
Jen Garner was like, no one call me that.
Right.
So the whole backstory is that Jennifer Lopez wrote this album about her marriage to, her
remarriage to Ben Affleck.
she decided she wanted to make a musical.
Her first marriage. They didn't get married.
Their engagement ended.
They never got divorced.
Oh, sorry, yes. Okay. So them getting back together.
She wrote an album about it.
She wanted to make a musical movie about it.
And then she made a doc that nobody wanted to perform in or pick up.
And then she made a documentary about making this musical,
about making the music that Ben also seems a little uncomfortable with.
And I didn't, by the way, so I'm catching up now.
Yeah, yeah.
Multiple people had cut. Melanie was like,
I saw that a friend of mine was like, I saw this movie.
It's fucking crazy.
And then I watched the documentary.
I mean, so all over TikTok, I kind of missed the moment in the moment.
Yeah.
More has happened since.
So I do want to talk about that.
Basically, what we're kind of talking about today is like, I mean, it's a bold statement,
but kind of like the downfall of J-Lo, which I want to say that, I want to tread lightly.
I'm not like out on J-Lo.
Like I, we've always hyped her.
We think she's this like bad bitch.
you know, I love her that she didn't really come for much and the way she built up her career.
And I don't think she's done anything problematic.
I love J-Lo.
Yeah, we've hyped her a lot.
Like the first doc, the other documentary, I don't know if that was the first one, but we love that one.
You know, and we just don't want to like drag her.
I just find it fascinating the way she has fallen from Grace and I am interested in it.
Like I've been in these TikTok holes because, I mean, she was such an A-list celebrity and she had to cancel her tour.
obviously due to ticket sales,
which we'll talk about that too.
But it did feel like it kind of started
with this vanity project no one asked for.
I mean, I'm fascinated back
because I started watching the documentary.
Everybody was like, you can watch 10 minutes of the movie.
You said you can watch 10 minutes of the movie.
Oh, get it.
So I got confused, and I knew there was this documentary.
I didn't know there were two things.
I put on the movie first.
Right.
And I was like, what am I watching?
It's like sci-fi music video.
I was like, what in the actual fuck is this?
And I was texting the group chat,
like, is this the documentary?
I was so confused.
So then I googled it on my own.
I was like, oh, no, there's a movie.
And then there was like, you said, a documentary about making the movie, both of which
she self-funded.
No one wanted to pay for this.
No one asked for this.
Which she is also very open about.
And like, the TikToks are so funny because they're like, J-Lo over here.
Like, no one wanted this.
No one asked for this.
But I'm going to make it anyway.
You know, like, I was, so the documentary opened and I was like, I love this.
What's everybody's problem?
Like, I think I love seeing behind the scenes.
I love seeing a mega celebrity like that.
just stripped down with her husband.
I was like, I'm really enjoying this.
And as it goes along,
you sort of see behind the curtain
that like Ben is a lot more private than she is.
And she says like he wasn't super comfortable
with me doing this, but I'm going to do it.
She lets everybody reads his letters.
She lets everybody reads his love letters to her.
And he's in the documentary saying like,
I don't love this.
I want to be a little more private.
The things that make the things that are special
between us special is that they are private.
And she's like,
but what I'm going to do is write an entire album about this.
I'm going to make a movie about it.
And then I'm going to make a two.
documentary about the movie about it. I'm going to spend $20 million on it.
Like, listen, and I am all, listen, I support artists and I think that, like, some of the
greatest art in the world has come from hundreds of people saying no, and one person saying, yes.
If you want to make art, make it. You have the money. What else are you doing? Yes. That's not it.
There are things that seem deeply delusional to everybody, and you do it, and it is the greatest
project that anybody's ever seen. I mean, I think that Coca-Cola was just brown sugar water until
it became Coca-Cola.
Like, only one person has to believe in you.
What a comparison.
Thank you so much.
Her movie was just brown sugar water, though.
So, like, I understand feeling like no one believes in this, but I should, but I'm
going to do it anyways.
Jennifer Lopez was being told that nobody who is brilliant believes in this.
Every studio past Taylor Swift, Selena Gomez, Jason Mamoa.
I mean, the list of, she's like, maybe we'll get bad bunny for a cameo.
Nobody wanted to be a part of this.
The most brilliant people in media.
Yeah.
No interest.
Okay.
No, it's interesting that you kind of.
talked about their relationship.
Like I agree with what you said.
I think overall, like, she just kind of gave people the ick.
I mean, it just, again, like, we echo the sentiment that, like, a lot of things that
feel cringe or our cringe are going to lead you to success.
But I think it was really cringe and it felt like, I think she's always been this diva.
And she's been really celebrated for that.
And we've all kind of accepted that, but also accepted her Jenny from the block.
She's from the Bronx.
the veil just came off and the documentary felt so self-righteous,
like this really inflated self-importance that I need to make this about myself.
And then the scene like where she's shaking out her hair and saying,
like, I feel like a, you know, the old me running up and down the block.
Like it was so contrived.
Like the same with the bodega order scene.
Like it all just felt really contrived.
It was like, we're supposed to believe this whole Jenny from the block narrative.
You produce this and you clearly, I don't know.
I think it just those scenes in particular.
really just made people be like,
I don't think she's who we think she is.
And when the public feels that lack of authenticity,
especially when they were believing in it before,
I think that's what really makes people lose interest
and makes you lose popularity.
And so those kind of scenes,
those are the ones that went super viral on TikTok.
And like, I do understand it.
Again, we're not trying to drag Jailor,
like she's not canceled in my opinion.
But those moments, and then you're like,
she's producing this, you know, like.
So I bring all this up.
And the relationship, because to connect to the fact that there's all these rumors that they've split up.
So I thought that that was an interesting window into their relationship.
And I mean, I go back and forth about saying that she's like cringe.
I mean, she's clearly unrelatable, but like I don't know how anybody at her level could possibly be relatable.
Like there's this scene in the documentary where she's like, what do you mean he can't be a part of it?
Tell him to cancel this wedding he's a part of.
And she's going back and forth with, I don't know, a friend or a manager or something about this guy like canceling a wedding that he has to.
to go to to be a part of her project.
And it sounds, it's so self-righteous.
It's so obnoxious.
It's so self-involved.
But I don't know.
I don't know how anybody like her could be like normal and down to earth.
No, but she's allowed to be a diva.
She's always been a diva.
That's, it's not that there's something else.
Like there's something else that people didn't like, you know, on top of the rumors that she doesn't sing her own songs.
Or actually, I don't even know if they're rumors.
Like all the stuff coming out that she has ghost singers.
What?
Yeah.
Ashanti.
Like, all these people have come out.
Like, she's had ghost singers.
What are you saying?
People are, backup singers have come out and be like, she doesn't sing our songs.
Not all of them.
I don't know.
But like there's a few songs that like she wasn't fully singing on the track.
So I think all these things have just culminated.
And then with the divorce rumors and people are like out on her.
And I don't know.
You know, I love Ben Affleck as just like a Boston guy.
You know, we love a Boston guy.
And I just have always been like a fan.
But I've also been a fan of J-Lo.
So I've always loved Benefer.
But I, you're seeing them and the photos.
that were recently in the press were them, like, meeting up and they did, like, an air kiss.
Like, they're giving, like, a cheat kiss.
Like, they look like divorced parents meeting up for their kids' soccer game, not, like, a married couple.
You know, like, who knows?
Again, I've tried it to, like, read too much into, like, paparazzi photos.
Yeah, and you and I could also, like, take a walk for three minutes.
And if somebody snapped the whole walk, they'd be like, they hate each other, they love each other,
they're having the best time, they fucking hate each other.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's just the moment you catch somebody in.
Yeah.
And she canceled her tour.
And it seems very clearly due to poor ticket sales.
But I want to also say that so many people have had to cancel their tours.
And we were talking with some, we have some insider info.
There's other huge acts that aren't selling that have been long time, you know, legendary acts that can't really sell.
Like there's like a bunch of bands that have had to cancel their tour.
And so things are just weird right now in the touring space.
And we were like talking our agent about and everything.
So it's like there's that too.
I just want to provide that little insider info.
It's not just like only J-Lo that people.
have turned on and have had to cancel her tour.
Well, I'm wondering, and maybe you have more insider info than me, because, I mean,
Jen and Ben, I really do, I root for them so much, especially watching the documentary.
She says he's the love of my life.
That's the person I was supposed to be with.
And they seem really mismatched in terms of their ideas about privacy and creating content
and really wanting to support the other person.
She's an artist.
I want to support her.
But they seem very mismatched in terms of, like, their philosophies on privacy.
And so do you think that this is the reason for the divorce and the reason for the tour being canceled?
Because she says I canceled the tour because I want to spend more time with my family.
Like, do you think she's like, I'm actually going to put him before this?
Or do you think that's absolutely not the case?
Oh, I don't know.
It could be both, too.
Like, both things could be true.
It could be like, it's not selling.
So fuck this.
Why am I going to go out and embarrass myself?
And I'll just be home like with my man.
Like, I think this could save the marriage.
I mean, if somebody canceled a worldwide tour for me?
I would stay.
But it's not selling.
So then you get to say, like, I did it for you, babe.
Can you imagine?
I'm just like, tell my boyfriend.
I'm like, we cancel the tour.
I just want to spend more time with you.
He's like, I said, I literally went on ticket master every day.
You weren't selling.
Ticketmaster was going to cancel if you didn't.
But thanks.
I really do.
I really root for them.
I just, I really hope that it works out.
Because I also think like, everybody deserves life.
and at that level, there's not that many people to date.
If you were the A list of the A list, like, who else do you get to date?
I guess you can go back to one of her backup dancers.
But then there's like that video, like, again, I don't like to read too much into
paparazzi photos, videos, whatever, but that video of him and Jen Garner, like, he looks so
happy.
Yeah, but like, I feel like I'm always happy with people where the stakes are lower, you know?
With your exes.
Yeah, I'm just like, what are you going to do about it?
Nothing.
Okay.
Let's wrap the episode with Rex for the rest of the week.
Okay.
We are going to try to do this as much as possible.
Movies, TV, books.
Like what we've been, what we've watched, what we've been watching.
Yes.
All right.
What are you watching?
Okay.
Should I kick it off?
I'll kick it off with hacks because I just finished season three hacks.
Flawless.
Perfect.
Everyone's loving.
Never been done before.
Obsessed.
I laughed out loud so much.
I love every season of hacks, but this season may be my favorite.
Season three, also season three of Bridgeton.
What is the opposite of a season two slump.
Slump.
Pump.
Pump and down.
I just, I loved it.
This whole season arc about Deborah.
with the late night and women in comedy, of course, is a central theme.
And it's just so funny.
It's so endearing.
And I just thought this was absolutely perfect season.
And I have to say, men who watch and love hacks, Green Flag.
You support women.
You support funny women.
You support amazing writing.
I mean, the writing on the show, like, I don't laugh out loud a ton in my home alone,
watching anything.
And I just found this to be such a good season.
Well, I'll tell you what you and I both laughed.
I allowed at home before it was.
Tires.
Tires.
And that's Shane Gillis' comedy show.
on Netflix, and it is about a tire shop in Philly.
I mean, I said Ashley, like, comedians are so well suited to act in mechanic shows.
They all look like mechanics, except for Francis Ellis, who's the only community we know
who played this, like, cold plunge, workout every morning, high-performing athlete.
Like, I laughed so hard at this show.
I loved it so much.
It's only six episodes.
They were greenlit for a second season, and I cannot wait.
Yes.
We love it.
It's not for the easily offended.
It's so, like, boy humor, but it's like for anyone who really, like, appreciates
comedy. It brings me back to my childhood. So my dad had an auto parts supplier. So he supplied parts
to body shops. But he had a small business, just a few employees. The woman in the show,
the one woman who works there, Kyla, reminds me this woman that used to work for my dad named
Pauline. Did she speak by trash? Always taking a cigarette break. Yes. Like, and so just to get
rough around the edges, I could just like hear my dad shit talking like auto body shops. Like I can
just, it brings me like right back. And I just love this show so much. And I have to say like my one thing
because it's tire related is it reminded me of how much body shops try to upsell you.
Yes. And when I was in my 20s, broke as a joke in Atlanta with my Nissan Xera hanging on by a thread, fighting for its life.
Like, I would just do the bare minimum that's all I could afford. And like, I remember going into these places. I remember going into a tire place. I had one tire that needed, had a hole in it. You know, I needed a fix. I went in this tire place. They were like, ma'am, you need four new tires. I was like, who's going to pay for that? You know, I was like, left, went up to this sketchy.
place on Buford Highway
in Atlanta, if you know, you know.
And I just like picked a tire
out of a lot.
They were like, you can pick one. I was like, that looks like it would fit.
Picked a tire. They put it on for like
30 bucks. Like when I
drove the exterior home, when I moved away from
Atlanta, my dad was like, it's
like I could hear him screaming on the farm.
Like he was like, Ashley, what the fuck? This car
is four different tires on it. Where did you even
get these? I had tire problems all the time
in college because I was always hitting curbs
and stuff. I drove around on my spare
hire for like a month. Not the donut. Yes, I drove around on that for like a month. I was just street
legal. I was just so broke. Like they'd try to upsell me and I'd be like, jokes on you. Who's
paying for that? Like, you need a new catalytic converter. I'd be like, okay, I'll tell my dad. I can't,
like, my car stories are insane. I had this one guy who would like help me pass emissions tests every
year. Like, the stories are, I have them for days. So like, I resonate with this as like car people and my
family and my dad and now my boyfriend and so I just I couldn't get enough of it I was like so obsessed
with it and we know a lot of people in it too like Francis of course like Karen Feehan and
Andrew Schultz and all of our friends I mean it's it's a great show you guys have to watch it
and then you wanted to talk about this today and I watched the first season I skipped the second
and then I really got into the third and I'm so excited because I can't wait to talk about it
Bridgeton okay I'm gonna make a bold statement do it season three is my favorite
season. And I just can't believe I would say that because the first season had Regé Jean Page,
which is the hottest man alive. But you're never going to do better than that. But I, the second
season I didn't think was horny enough. Like it was too much teasing. It wasn't enough sex. And I swear
they got feedback that like we needed to be hornyer. And this season is erotic. He's fingering her
in the horse and carriage. He's just, the other guy's going down on his wife, she's eating her pussy in
the morning. There's like threesome. The threesome hit me and knocked me out of
left field. That was so crazy. I'm like, this is just like a nice period piece show. And two seconds later,
like that guy's just in a threesome. I mean, there's always been like some prostitution, but this season,
when he fingered her, I would text to Bernie Schmidt. I'm like, she's getting fingered in the Uber.
You know, she just like hailed that horse and carriage. Next thing she knows. But I love it so much.
And I, the layer of spoiler alert, by the way, if you're listening, the layer of Penelope being Lady Whistled
It's just so spicy and so dramatic.
And so I read this is like without a doubt my favorite season.
Wait, I love it.
The first season there was like one main storyline.
Now I think there's like a whole bunch.
Yeah.
And I'm really into it.
I'm excited to keep watching and the rest of this season looks so good.
I just died because he fingered her and then he had to propose.
What a time.
Can you imagine that if everybody who fingered you in high school had to be like,
are we getting married down?
I have 150 husbands right now.
You know how people that fingered me in my life in an Uber?
Yeah.
I've been figured in so many.
Uber's and in yellow cabs.
Those existed before Uber existed, boys
and girls. Okay, and then speaking of that fingering
scene, Tesset, you told me something that I didn't know.
They called cut and they
didn't stop, like, filming. They
had to go and, like, scream, stop and
have, like, the arms waving.
They were still fingering? And that was after they had been told
already to tone it down, because Penelope's supposed to be a virgin,
so she's, like, acting, like,
too into it. That bitch
looks like she's had some orgasms before.
Oh, my, like some dick tops up
inside of her. That is crazy.
Seeing the scene.
I know.
You stopped watching before the climax.
Listen, I watched nine shows last night to prep for this episode.
So, like, I fell asleep at the end of the last Bridgerton.
It's like five minutes.
It's literally the very, that is so funny.
You just skipped the most important part.
I actually tried to watch it, like, two seconds before we started this podcast episode,
and everyone acts like I was so inappropriate.
It's literally, like, masturbating and right before you come being like,
oh, I got to go to bed now.
But when Tess had told me that, I cannot believe that.
So obviously, he's not fingers in pus.
but they were, you know, acting it out, the fact that they were so into it.
Is there rumors about them being a thing or no?
Not that I've seen.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
I mean, I feel like if I was an actress and I had to like really get into it for a scene where
like somebody was like pleasuring me and I was single, I'd be like, let's just go
full send.
But she, she, I like what Tessa said, like she looks, she's not giving virgin.
Like she is just giving like.
Spicy Redhead.
So much.
So orgasm.
She's here to party.
Yeah.
But I'm so.
I'm thinking of the director's like, stop fingering her.
And they're like, she's like, I'm almost saying.
Cut, cut.
Yes.
And she's like, let me just get there.
I'm actually going to come.
This will be great.
Okay, and we're going to end this with a question, a trend alert and a question.
And then we're going to put this poll on Instagram.
We're going to let you guys answer too.
Okay, so this article was on bustle.
It said did Beyonce single-handedly launched 2024's most shocking fashion trend and no shock there,
but it is chaps.
Assless chaps, which I think is redundant because I think chaps mean there's no ass in them.
I don't know.
That's how the pants are structured.
Is that like saying tomato marinera sauce?
Kind of.
Yes.
One cannot exist throughout the other.
So regardless, chaps, ass or not, Megan the stallion.
Megan the stallion started her tour with them.
So they're saying this is like a trend.
And Carrie Underwood, but Carrie Underwood had like shorts under them.
Right.
I'm not going to have my ass out.
No one wants to see that.
But I might do with like some like boy shorts.
I wouldn't not wear them.
What do you think?
Like where can you take me an occasion in which you would wear assless chaps like on a date?
Like Beyonce's doing ass out.
Yeah but were you going to wear that to like the like the bodega?
Like are you going to wear it to like my orange drink?
If you know you know.
Okay.
Like what where are you wearing these?
Like on our tour.
Okay on our tour definitely.
To the Celtics game.
I would wear it this week.
Yeah.
Like you're wearing a sporting event.
Right.
To perform in.
But I haven't decided.
I don't think I need to be butt cheeks out at our live shows.
I'm nipples out at our shows all the time.
Yeah.
I can't be butt and nipples.
Okay.
Also, I feel like our butts would like stick to the leather.
We're up and down a lot.
Yeah.
Maybe not.
Maybe I'll just stick to free in the puss this summer.
Okay.
Just bring your murkin out.
So let us know, guys, if you're free in the nip, the puss, or cheeks this summer.
And we hope you enjoyed the snack.
We hope you guys enjoyed it.
We've talked about doing the show for a long time.
Ashley and I are just so obsessed with pop culture and reality TV and just this is all we
voice know back and forth about all day.
And so we've wanted to do the show for so long.
We hope you guys love it.
We do want feedback in an appropriate manner.
Kind feedback.
So we'll pull you guys.
Yeah.
And again, leave, let us know on YouTube what you think.
You know, we have gone back and forth.
Do we do the like TV wrecks at the top or the bottom?
And this is new.
So of course, we're not going to restructure a whole show based on like one or two comments.
But we really do want this to be something that you guys like and enjoy.
So watch on YouTube and let us know what you think.
And you can find us at Girls Gotta Eat.com.
Come see us on tour, those assless chaps.
We start in the fall through the year.
And again, tickets at Girls Gottoeatat.com.
You can follow us on Instagram.
Girls Got to Eat Podcast.
We'll be posting clips.
TikTok where Girls Got to Eat Podcast.
I'm Ash Hess.
Raina is rana.
org.
And we will see you Monday.
See you Monday, guys.
Have a good weekend.
Bye.
