Girls Gotta Eat - The Snack: Texas Dildo Bill + What Influencers Owe Their Followers

Episode Date: April 3, 2025

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about: Breakups: Sydney Sweeney, Mark Cuevas (who?), Becca Moore Sydney Sweeney and Glen Powell rumors Texas dildo bill (plus other wild sex laws) Remi Bader's weight loss reveal Chappell Roan's comments about having children Quick headlines (Morgan Wallen, Rachel Leviss, Justin Bieber) Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Revolve: Get 15% your first order at https://revolve.com/GGE with code GGE. Cornbread Hemp: Get 30% off your first order at https://cornbreadhemp.com/GGE with code GGE. Booking.com: Win $1000 of Booking.com travel credit by entering their sweepstakes on Instagram @bookingcom. Addyi: Learn more at https://addyi.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Snack, a lighter serving of Girls Got to Eat. This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy. Hi, guys. Hi. You know what? We just want to start this. We do have kind of a sad announcement.

What's happening? That today will be the last episode of The Snack. It's not April Fold anymore. Days after April. We're recording on April. You've been trying to get me all morning. All the people have been trying to get me. the internet's been trying to get me.

I saw that Arawan was opening up in New York City. I almost moved back. So it's confirmed. That's a, but why wouldn't it? That's believable news. You can't drop news on April 1st. You just can't.

It's so true. People just know you're messing. And we've talked about this over the years, but I grew up like April fools. Like my mom would always get me when I would come downstairs. She'd like, oh my God, your hair is green. Like little dumb stuff when I was a kid. And then I really got into it, especially in college.

Okay. Like, you know, I said this before. I convinced my whole family that I had left college early and was going out to see this guy in Key West. My mom was calling all of our family members. What? She was, you know, I've told the story. No. I've had this kind of spring break.

And then I was like, let's convince my mom that I've like left school before finals. And I'm going down to be with Jay in Key West. And she was calling my aunt in Miami. Like, my mom was like going crazy. So, because I just decided not to answer my phone and have her get a little skeptical. And she called our apartment landline. We had a landline in college. Guys, that's all what I am.

And I forget which roommate. I think it might have been Stephanie or Kat, like, picked up the phone and was then like kind of covered the receiver. It was like, guys, it's Ashley's mom. What should I tell her? Like really played it up. This is crazy. You went wide.

I swear I've told you. Someone in the comments is going to be like, Raina, we know this story. We always be talking. We just talk a lot. Let's talk about our partners. You guys, we've made it. This is a slow clap. Thank you to.

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Let's just kick it off with a breakup. report. We love a breakup report. Of course, our condolences to anyone affected. But we love to see you all failing in your relationships. When we're working on our breakup report and we figure out that third one,

because I like to have three things in a report. Sometimes we'll do two. Otherwise, it's just, we'd be talking. It's just two things. Yeah. Here's two things. So we do have a trifecta today. You want to kick it off? Yeah. Sidney calls off her wedding and then a couple days later then confirmed that they had

broken out because this was new news again today. So she kind of soft-launched the breakup with the wedding and postponement. Yes. Okay. Okay. And then was like, ha-ha, we're broken. Like, why not just, do you think she just wanted to slow roll it out? I don't know. I mean, I guess it would be like less postponing your wedding, I guess it's interesting to me, but it's not as big of news as like a breakup. But in between those two things breaking, she was spotted in Dallas with Glenn Powell. So maybe she was just like, I can't make it seem like I want to. went to a wedding for Glenn Powell, which we will get to. And also, I still might be with my fiance.

But she wasn't romantically hanging out with Glenn Powell, right? No. So basically it was his sister's wedding. Okay. She went down there. Allegedly she had RSVP months in advance to the wedding. It's in Texas. She went with her best friend.

And that they were like spotted together in Texas. And it's like, yeah, they're at his sister's wedding. Did he have a date to the wedding? Unsubstantiated, not sure. So like, do you think she was like, you know, weddings make people feel some type of way? you know, you don't want to go to a wedding with someone you don't want to be with. Totally. Because it makes you feel a lot of things.

You think she was like, I can't be at that wedding with Glenn there with this man. I don't want to be with. Like, you think, I wonder if the wedding kind of was the catalyst. I mean, it seems like it was the catalyst because she then followed up with like another story. I gotta tell you, I'll be totally honest. I find these two celebrities and I love them and I wish them luck. No one interests me less. I just don't care about them.

They're not spicy or interesting in any way. I mean, I love that she's like my huge booby girl. Like, you know, like we used to have a sisterhood back when my boobs were that big. Yeah. I just, they're not interesting celebs to me. I'm just like people, this is the biggest news ever. I just, I don't care about them that much. I think they're just like traditionally hot.

Too hot people. In more ways than one, they're super hot right now in the scene and Hollywood. Like, I guess that's just it. They're like the two young hot stars that people are shipping. But yeah, I'm not especially interested. Yeah. But men across the world are rejoicing. and I just love some of these comments sections.

Like our friend Rob sent me one. He also said she was from Spokane, which I didn't know. Is she? Or Washington girly? And the comment section of this one post is just so funny because it's like this happened after I texted her sup. And like she's actually with me. Huge news for me.

Just a bunch of guys. Rumor has that she's still in love with me. And then someone, don't worry guys. I heard Sidney is going to start dating someone who comments on this post. You know, like the guys in the comments are just so horny for the breakup. But, you know, we wish them well, her and Glenn. Yeah. They're just, they're not that spicy, but I wish them well.

And, you know, I hope they're happy. Tessa, you ship Glenn and, is it, right? Like, yeah, I mean, it's like, life imitates are with anyone but you. They go to the wedding. Like, it's like, I think that's the big thing is like, it's the plot of the movie. And then, like, everyone was like it was a PR relationship. The worst movie I've ever seen. A year and a half ago whenever it came out.

So I think that's why there's, like, more of the hype around it, too. Okay. It's a fun thing to ship, I think. Okay. Who knew who were. where ex even was, I didn't. Nobody knows that guy is. I'm sure his market value has gone up, though.

Sidney's when he's ex. He's getting some pussy. I will tell you, I would hate to follow that. No. Like, you know, I can't stop thinking about it. We were going to talk about it later, but I'll bring it up now. So Craig and Paige, Craig Conover of Southern Charm, if you guys lived under the rock, a rock, him and Paige Disrobber broke up.

And he announced and watched what happens a lot, but he is dating somebody exclusively now. Okay. And her name is Natalie Buffett. And I got to tell, I, I wish them the best. I would hate to follow Paige DeSorbo. Yeah. I just, I don't know anything about this girl. And again, I wish her and Craigwell, but I wouldn't follow it.

How could I ever love up to how she dresses, how cool she is. Yeah, and she's funny, all the things. All this is so successful, so cool. I just, I would hate to try to live up to it. Yeah. Okay. Well, next we have Love is Blind, Mark from Love is Blind, Mark Kuevas, who was season one. Season one with Jessica.

We have been Team Jessica since the jump. We are on the right side of history. This is the most we've ever been on the right side of history. Everybody hated on her and we were like, we see through this. Yeah, and she's thriving. She's married. Now she's this hot what doctor husband. Anyway, I didn't even say the news, but, you want to deliver the news?

So basically, Mark Anthony, Quavis. Mark Anthony. Mark Anthony. What? Like Jailos? Mark Anthony. It's Mark with a K. Okay.

It looks weird with a K. But anyways, Mark Anthony afterwards, he did get married to a girl and they had two kids. And then he posts this week on Instagram, Black Square, white writing. Hey, everyone.

After a lot of thought and conversations, Dear Father God. Aubrey and I have decided to part ways a few weeks ago. This wasn't an easy decision. We both believe this is the best pass forward for our individual growth in our family, top priorities, our boys. He goes on and on. He uses we statements a lot. We are going to begin the next chapter. We kindly ask for your understanding. We truly appreciate your support.

So we, we, we, we, it is filled with wees. She comments on it right at the top. This is news to me, L.O.L. What? What? Yeah. I, this might be the quickest comment section I have ever run to in my life. Yeah. She just didn't know. Come on. Like, what? I wonder if she, meant like posting this. Okay. This statement is news to me. Also, I gotta tell you what. So is she come out at all? No, I mean, she just said this is news to me.

The comment section's hysterical. We should have ranked the worst short kings last week in honor of Short King's Spring because he would be on that list. He's a little shit. Is he from Love is Blind? Yes. I could do just Love is blind. Short King.

No, like Izzy and Mark battling it out for worst Short King love is blind. And Mark's like, at least I have plates. Can you see them in a roast battle? Can I tell you what's so funny about this? I just, I clocked it right away because I make a lot of our Instagram stories.

And he posted it and like centered it, but it's off center. Yeah. And I would be like, this guy can't do anything right. He's so stupid. Totally. He can't even center. Yeah. What does he care?

That is so crazy to post something like that. And also the way he posted, I like the people in the comments being like, you're not that famous. You didn't have to make a statement like this. Yes. Like people wouldn't even know. who that was. If you said Mark Anthony Quavis, people would be like literally who. Not one person would be like, I know who that is. Exactly. Maybe his mom. Yeah. The only way you would know is if you

tagged his name on to Jessica. Yes. Absolutely. She's still a queen. Um, our season one queen. So a lot of people were like, you didn't need to post this like a PR statement. Yeah. Which I think it's the funny. That's so true. No one cares. Send this to your friends and family. Send us your wife. Yeah. Okay. And then we just have one more. And this is Becca Moore. and Shannon Beverage. We're not going to say too much. She's been on the show, and we loved Becca.

This was probably six months to a year ago. And she shared her whole story of getting together with Shannon, and it's been kind of drama-filled, this breakup. And some people have come out and been like she was never gay, you know, because she didn't date women before Shannon. And she was her first relationship with the woman. But now there's this storyline. Well, people, so she, Tessa said,

like, do you want to talk about this breakup? And I was like, I've been known about this breakup for months. Okay, yeah. So she released a statement. She just released her podcast about it, with the whole story. And the two of them were really cute. They used to like podcasts together. They did a lot of stories together.

And she's just very open and honest about her life. Whatever's going on, she's going to put the story out. And she put out a story, I want to say like a couple months ago, saying that basically Shannon wanted to have like biological children together and that she didn't want to do that with a woman. And people really attacked her on the internet. People made a lot of videos about it. people certainly had feelings

and I don't blame them. So then basically now she has come out and said that she basically just offered up that excuse as a reason for their breakup because she was scared that the internet would make up narratives about their relationship

and then Shannon's team agreed so they kind of decided that would be the reason for the breakup and she says after the breakup video was posted they continued dating for about a month and then Shannon ultimately ghosted her I mean I don't

again we just wanted to throw it into the mix because she's a former guest. And if you guys don't know, Mecca Moore is an influencer. She's really great. I love her content. And we loved our conversation with her. And again, like Raina said, super open about her life.

But this is just one of those things where, I mean, it's not Blake and Justin, but it's like you hear one side, you're on one side, you hear the other side. You don't know really what's going on. Well, it was interesting because I was reading the comments on her post. And a lot of the people that made, like,

reaction videos to the first breakup apologized to her. And they were like, I didn't know this would bother you. right and this is it's it with you so much. It's like, well, you made a reaction video about me. Yeah. So interesting to walk it back now. Yeah. Yeah. It's all really interesting. And I always like tread lightly on the whole like she was never gay thing. Like I mean, a lot of people are by their, they're fluid. I don't think you're like, I'm straight, but I'm going to date this woman for for what reason? I don't know. Like, why does it have to be some sort of insidious reason? Like, I don't

understand that attack, I guess. And I'm not saying that's coming from the whole of the LGBT community, but there is that discourse. And it's like, but she was in love with Shannon and, you know, was in a relationship with her, was intimate with her, then that makes her buy. I don't know.

It's just, that's an interesting critique. Well, I think that... What are you trying to say? What's the motive there, I guess? Well, the initial breakup conversation was her saying, essentially, she didn't want kids with a woman, and she'd never really processed to this. That's why people came out. That's why people came out. Okay, I see. Which now she's kind of like, that was just a story we made up.

I mean, that's, I wouldn't have done that either. I know. Why couldn't have just been people break up? I think when you're young and you have a microphone. But like, I guess I'm just asking, maybe I'm missing something. Why can't it just be that like relationships run their course? And I don't know. You know what I mean?

A little convoluted. And it does sound like in the end, Shannon's behavior was like a little, from Becca, a little toxic. Or she didn't like how it was going. she didn't want to like embarrass her. So she embarrassed herself? I don't know. I also just, people are allowed to break up and not offer all the ins and outs of the thing.

It's just like it comes down to page and Craig too. You know, Paige is like, let's keep it top level. Relationships don't work out. And now slowly Craig's starting to be like this and that. And then you're seeing more play out on Summerhouse of her issues with him. Whatever.

I'm just, I'm saying you're, you're allowed to keep it vague. You're allowed to be like this didn't work out. Sorry, everybody. Right. I've never heard somebody make up a story and then walk it back. I know.

I know. That's interesting. All right. Okay. Let's move on to Texas. Okay. Y'all have been really asking us to talk about this. This is the Texas Dildo Bill.

Okay. Tell me with a lie. Okay. So things like this have always been swirling around in certain red states, but now Texas is introducing a bill to require photo ID to buy sex toys online, calling them obscene devices. Obscene devices, I can't. We will be dropping our obscene device collection on vibes only.

We're going to do free expedited shipping to Texas only. If they were going to do it in any state, it was going to be Texas. Yeah. There is a law in Texas already that in Texas the possession of more than six dildos is prohibited. I've always known that, which would have they coming into your? house and trying to find them. Well, all these laws are very funny. And if you Google, I won't go through all them, but if you Google, like, ridiculous, outdated sex laws, I mean, you'll see hundreds of

them. Totally. Like, weird sodomy stuff. And it's, again, like, we can joke about it, but it's just total nonsense. It's targeted at women and their pleasure. If Texas and other deep red states could ban women having sex for pleasure, they would. You know, like, it's just all really gross. And it's just crazy because it's like, you can always masturbate. Have you guys ever heard of fingers? Like, what are you going to, you're trying to stop people for masturbating? And, I mean, I'll just, like, go on a rant for a minute. Like, Texas has other things to focus on. Like, their lawmakers need to focus on the fact that they are 41 out of 50 states in education,

49th in overall health care, 49th in access to health care, 49th in women's health, 44th in child health, and 49th in mental health. Maybe you all should focus on some other things besides vibrators. Well, I don't understand, like, what this is based on other than what you said women's Pleasure. I mean, why should you not be allowed to own one? Based on what? Exactly. It's like, it's because it's in the same categories like porn. Like, that's why they're trying to require age restriction, which also is reading this article that those don't work. You know, age restrictions on buying devices. What do you, how, you know?

It's just, it's not that enforceable either. And like, if I buy it in another state and bring it into the state. If you buy a dildo underage in Arizona, you bring it to Texas. Like it's a gun? It's just, I mean, again, don't get me started on guns. Like, it's literally easier to buy a gun in Texas than a vibrator. That's what they're trying to make it. Yeah. So it's just focus on other stuff.

It's an insult. It's an insult to the people of Texas that this is what any lawmaker is spending their time on. Also that, yes. It just, it feels like what's the point of that? Why are we regulating this? At the end of the day, all it's going to do is give people orgasms. So who cares? What harm is this causing?

I know. And it's just like, then they're going to do other stuff. And it's just like, I swear they want just like young people to get knocked up and be forced to have the kids and not get an education. And that's how you continue the cycle of poverty. So they're like, if they can't masturbate, maybe they'll just need to fuck people instead. We'll do other stuff. Yeah.

I just so much, so much bad stuff has happened from obviously guns, drugs, alcohol. alcohol. Like there's so many things to regulate before this. Crazy. Understatement. All right. So I'm raised you a couple others. Okay. Um, it oral sex is illegal in 18 states. We are felons. In how many, I don't know how many states I've had that had oral sex had oral sex performed. A lot of things, by the way, are misdemeanors. Like, you're not going to go to jail for sucking a dick. You'll just get a ticket. A ticket. it. In Florida, it is illegal to have sex with a porcupine.

How many times did that happen before they were like, make a law? Shit. Have I done this? Sexual intercourse between unmarried couples is illegal in Georgia. Georgia? Yeah. I saw this on a lot of sites. But I've had so.

Well, don't tell me. Can you retroactively go to jail for things? Of sex on a wedlock I had in Georgia. And a lot of oral sex. And I fucked a porcupine, but it's legal there. Can you retroactively go to jail for that? Come and get me. Okay.

Engaging in any sexual position other than missionary is illegal in Washington, D.C. No. Where'd you get this? I cross-referfer this from a bunch of websites. That's... This I saw on a bunch of... You can't do do do doggie in D.C. Yeah, that's it.

Listen, I didn't, like, read the Constitution or anything, but like... Look it up. Okay. Here's one that I also saw on a lot of websites. It is illegal in Utah to marry your first cousin before the age of 65. 66. You can marry it. You can do it.

They're like, you're senile. Have at it. You don't even know that's your cousin anymore. Okay, and then the last one. Utah also just, none of this is going to surprise me in Utah. Also, come see me in Salt Lake, you guys. Here's the last one. I mean, I could do this all day, but here's the last one I'll do.

In South Carolina, a false promise of marriage can land you in jail. Oh, my God, all these fuck boys. Promising someone you'll marry them with no intention to follow through. I love this one. You guys. I do, too. It's called the seduction. under promise of marriage.

Honestly. Am I a Republican? Because I think we need to put this in more states. Leading people on as a crime. If you got let on by a guy and then you could get them arrested. Guess who's going straight to jail? Grant from The Bachelor. Grant Ellis basically promised.

Let's see ya, he was going to marry her. And then shows the other one. He's going to jail. Can you imagine? Yeah, I imagine you right now. I'm turned on by it. Anyways, these are funny. you guys should Google them.

There's a lot. Oh my gosh. Don't come for us on the fact checking. I never said I was a lawyer. The missionary one is getting me though. You're on top in D.C. You're like, it's illegal. That's so much hotter.

Okay. I like that you're like the porcupine thing sounds true. Well, I'm assuming there's a lot of animals you can't fuck. Also, I'm sorry. If you're trying to fuck a porcupine, you're like really deranged. Like you're going to, you're danger. totally you're too dangerous to society that's a weird animal to want to fuck because the spikes yeah obviously I'll hit you with one last one it's illegal to seduce and debauch an unmarried woman

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We're talking about like the Kardashian influencers. Rain is like it's very philosophical. Oh. Well, we like to talk about this stuff and like what stuff that. like what stuff that prompts a deeper conversation is what you mean. Yeah. And so, you know, we will do like headlines and then we like to pick a few things to talk to talk a lot about. So after almost a year of speculation, Remy Bader has finally like dropped to the interview where she is talking about her rate loss. She did that on Chloe Kardashian's podcast. And it's caused, of course, a lot of discourse and

conversation on the internet. Yeah. So if you guys don't know who she is, she is a plus size influencer. I think she got popular during COVID and she would try different looks on and, you know, how they would fit her. And she's been in the spotlight. She has been larger and plus size and has kind of built her brand on that. But we'll kind of talk about how that was never really her goal. And she's always really struggled with her weight and didn't really sign up to be the picture of body positivity, I guess. But yeah, so she lost about 150 pounds over the course of the last year. And of course, everyone's like, what is going on?

This is not, can't be Ozmpic, you know, like, and she had bitten on Ozmpic before. And so she's just like shrinking and looks like a totally different person and didn't reveal that she got the surgery until she went on this podcast. Right. So she got the surgery in December of 2023. Okay. So quite a long time ago. She underwent a new procedure called S-A-D-I-S, which she describes as a cross between gastric sleeve and gastric bypass.

She said that the recovery was extremely painful and traumatic, which of course to lose 150 pounds. Worse than it should have been also. Sure. Yeah. And people have speculated for a long time. I mean, she was sort of like the beacon of plus size girlies that still dressed really fashionable and seemed really confident and made all these videos. She started losing weight.

Of course, the comments started right away. And this is in the age of OZempic also where, you know, everybody demands that influencers be honest about what they're on and what they've done to their bodies. And she has refused to address it. And oftentimes in a way that I would, that has been digested as not very nice, a little antagonistic, instigative. She blocks people.

She makes response videos. Her thing has just sort of been, I don't know you information about my body. Well, she used to share a lot more. And so her story, you know, I'm going to remove kind of,

I don't know her personally. We know a lot about her. We have friends that are friends with her, you know, whatever, whether I like her or not. whether whatever, it doesn't really matter. It's kind of irrelevant to the conversation.

Like I'm just going to kind of speak in the way that she comes across is she's really struggled with her weight always. She has tried, Ozymbic, Manjaro, I think, too. Like, she's been to like treatment centers. She's, and she talks about this in the podcast, she went to overeaters Anonymous. Like, she is talked about how it, she's unhealthy, how she has back problems, how she has knee problems. I mean, she's been really open about I'm struggling with my weight, which should

lead you to think I don't want to be this weight. On the podcast. Huh? You're saying on the podcast or previously? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I mean, again, I haven't, I'm not so, I can't say everything she's ever done, but she's

always been open about her struggles. Sorry, I don't know if she would talk about the treatment centers and stuff previously, but my point is like she would be open about struggling with her weight, you know, and not being able to, I guess, control it. And then she doubled down on that even more on Chloe's podcast of how much of a struggle it's been. And then prior to getting the surgery. she did make a statement and she says this on the podcast as well like I'm kind of done sharing like I don't I don't I'm not going to really share and I think maybe she was kind of foreshadowing perhaps but like which I see all the different sides of it like it's not so black and white you know I I get when people bully you and harass you and demand information from you and the people that kind of appear to be your supporters have turned on you like you really want to be like fuck all y'all you know like we've experienced it on a

smaller level over time and you kind of have to do the reconciliation of like this isn't everybody this is just a few loud voices but like when people really come at you you're like I've shared so much of my life with you and I don't want to anymore and I get people being like okay but you built this whole platform on being plus size and now you're not and now you're flaunting that in our face and you're not telling us what you did so I I see that too and then her point was like I was really struggling. The recovery was terrible. She went through this breakup at the same time. Like, I wasn't ready to share. And then people are like, you waited until you got this big podcast to go on to share. You wait until you got a payday to share. Like, I'm just saying the

critiques that people are saying. But I understand her not feeling like she owes people this information. I agree with you said. I think all critiques of this are fair. I think it's fine to be a fan of hers and feel like, you know, I thought we were in this together. I thought I found an ally that dressed so well and looked like me and I like seeing somebody in the internet who is confident and wants to look a certain way and is still able to be out in the world and like themselves. And I understand feeling a sense of like loss that that person changed their mind, essentially. And you're like, but I gave you my time and I gave you my money sometimes and you changed

your mind and that hurts. I also understand her side of things. Like you said, her whole life was probably bullied and looked at a certain way. how she looked and then all these people are carrying torches demanding that you tell them what you've done to your body and you're like, I don't even know who I am right now. Yeah. She said and, you know, people that lose a lot of weight always echo this same sentiment, which is like, I look in the mirror and I see a different person, but inside I'm still the same person.

I don't know how to like reconcile those two things. And so she, I think, is dealing with a lot mentally. And so I understand being like, I don't need to talk to you guys about this right now until I'm ready. I think the tone, at least for me, came off. instigative and really hostile sometimes. Totally. Yeah. Again, this is just like you could not like her too. You know what I mean? You could be like, she's a bitch if that's what you feel. But I have empathy to how people get that way when they've been bullied and demanded information. You know, like this is not the same, but when I got my nose done, I didn't talk about it right away. I didn't

bring people on the journey. And I was trying to remember why. I had certain feelings about it. Like I, it's It's not the same. I can't stress it enough. And I didn't build a career of my nose. But like, I just didn't want to. I don't know why. I didn't want people's feedback. I just, I wanted to put some space in between getting it done and talking about it. And now I would have been like, I got my nose done yesterday. I don't know really why. But for whatever reason, I wanted to kind of see how I felt about it and just didn't talk about it right away in the podcast. All my friends and family knew that. I said that when I shared on the podcast. But there were some people in comments, just this like one terrible troll who wouldn't let up.

We know you got your nose done. Are you going to reveal it? And I'm like, what is your damage? Like, you know, and it's not the same, but I understand wanting to process something before you share it with the world. And I can't stress enough that it's different. But I even felt like that. And then those few people, again, not the majority of people who were like demanding this,

made me want to be like, fuck you. I'm not going to bring it up at all. But I didn't because I know that's not the majority of people who follow us and support us. I think that when you do anything medical to your body, I think that you are allowed to process it as long as you'd like and share that information with other people. And Bethany Frankel said this. I was watching a video over hers,

and it really struck me. And she said that people develop, your fans develop parisocial relationships with you. And so they actually do think you owe them this information because they're like, but I've been following this journey. And I have been liking and commenting and doing the things, by the way, that allow you to monetize your following.

Yeah. And now you're going to turn your back, on us and people don't realize that these are like strangers with private lives and they there's no training for this, you know? So you just have to process this as you're going through it. And I go back and forth because it would be a little strange for me to have built this podcast with you. I like, I don't even say what you're going to say. It was the exact same thing I was going to say. And refuse to talk about my relationships and refuse to tell you guys what's going on with me. But there is nuance to that and I protect other people's privacy. I wait until I know

what I want to say about something to talk about it. I wait until I've de-escalated and I'm not so mad about something. And I also just change my mind about stuff, like where I feel a certain way about a relationship or a person. I don't feel that way in a couple weeks. And I don't want a record stamped online on the internet forever of me having said something. Yeah. I mean, this would be exactly I have a few comparisons, which again, different. We're talking about dating. We're talking about people. people's bodies and medical stuff and all of that. But I mean, it would be like Raina gets a partner and just refuses to share anything. And people would be like, you brought us on your journey this whole time. Like I look to you for dating advice, relationship advice, all this. And you're like,

I'm not going to talk about this. And you could respect that and have to know she'd be doing it for whatever reason and she's a person and she can have her in boundaries. Or you could stop listening. You know, like that's the thing. Like I get it. You feel betrayed by these people. You've given your time and your energy and sometimes your money to. But you can just stop. You can stop. them, you can stop listening them, you can stop supporting them, buying their stuff. That's just how it be sometimes, you know, and that's what you're able to do if you really feel betrayed or let on enough to want to stop supporting them. And I just, I don't know, I thought about the parallel even between, you know, singleness and then for me deciding to get married. You know, I've been

single, I loved it. It was ups and downs. And then I'm not anymore. And you could be like, but you were my single girl I looked up to. And it's like, but I never said I was going to be forever. Like, I don't know. And it's like she was really open about the fact that like, again, I don't know everything she's ever said.

But to my knowledge, she was pretty open about the fact that like I don't necessarily want to be in this body, which should kind of make you think it will change. You know, maybe she's tried everything. she's still trying, so why wouldn't it change? You know, it's almost like you're single, you're dating. I'm happy, I'm thriving. But like the goal is to find somebody. The goal is to kind of change.

And they're not the same. And I can't stress that. I don't know if I keep saying that I'm like a broken record. But like I think it's interesting to discuss the parallels of the way people follow you and why and how they get angry when things change. Yes. And also, like, I'm surprised you didn't bring this up. Like when it's different for us, like, when we are single and dating and having all these, like, little, like, fuck boy situations, those are fun and funny to talk about.

I would never expect you to talk about your husband. I would never expect it. I would never expect you to share really private personal information about your personal lives. And if you had an argument, I mean, that's, it's a different level, right? Yeah. You don't owe everybody every piece of information. 100%. I had a situation with somebody in the fall.

It was very painful. I really hate it. I'm not going to share it. It's just that was a really personal situation. And I don't owe everybody, every piece of information about everything that happens to me either. Yeah. And for Remy, like, she still is figuring this out how she feels. And I, you know, I loved the interview because I love Chloe. I just, I have always loved Chloe.

I find her to be so funny. Like, she's, I laugh out loud if I watch her on the Kardashians. I think she's so wise. I just think she's like a good person. She's so compassionate. She's so empathic. I mean, she really seems like an empath. And I really just think she's a good person.

And I feel for her and everything that she's gone through. And I just, she couldn't have been the better. And on top of it, she's been critiqued and body shamed for her, since her whole adult life and speculated on and all of that. So it's just it couldn't have been a better person to do the interview with. I love that she picked her. who could empathize more than this than Chloe about being picked apart on the internet

their entire life and compared to everybody around you who looks so beautiful and thin and now she's like re-engineered her face and her body and people have a million things to say about that too now that aren't kind and I think that she was such an incredible person to speak to and I just, she could have done anything she could have gone on call her daddy

she could have gone on anything and done this but I love that she picked Chloe. You know we see different sides. I do see people. being like she flaunted this brand new body. She showed herself working out. I'm like, okay, well, she never said that was how she can work out. Oh, Remy later.

Yeah, Remy. Because I just, you know, my biggest issue is just blatantly lying. I guess the misstep that people, what people wanted was a little bit of kindness and maybe a statement that said like, yes, clearly something's going on. Okay, right. You know, obviously you guys have eyes and I don't. But did she ever, again, like, I don't really follow her. So I don't know.

Again, it's like I can't, I don't have the receipt for all these things. But I don't either. And I, I, but there was definitely not a statement that was like clearly, you're not blind. I've lost 150 pounds. And I'm not ready to talk about it. And like, I will when I want to. Yeah. I think that the tone that I've seen has been a little antagonistic.

Sure. And that's maybe her tone. Yeah. And you can take it or leave it. And as she says, kind of like, but I told people I was done sharing. And Chloe was like, it doesn't matter if you think you're getting, no, no, like, Chloe was like, you can get ahead of something as much as you want. It doesn't matter. People will spend the narrative however they like.

Totally. Which I appreciated. Like you could be like, I told y'all I was done doing this and people are like, first of all, no, you didn't. People are supposed to just believe I should prove it. You know what I mean? Like, so I just. All right. Well, we wish her well.

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And people, I mean, it was a pretty definitive statement. Chaperone, she doesn't miss words. So she said, all of my friends who have kids are in hell, which you knew was going to inflame the internet. I'll reach you the rest. I don't know anyone. I actually don't know anyone who's like happiness children at this age. Yeah. She's 27, by the way.

And she said, I literally have not met anyone who's happy, anyone who is light in their eyes, anyone who has slept. I mean, she was not vague about it. Since then, I really have been flooded with, like, TikToks of. Women with children kind of responding to this. And it's interesting, the comment sections are very different than the people that made reaction videos. Okay. Reaction videos, all anti-chapelroen, of course, really defending motherhood and their choices. Comment sections really kind to her, really open-minded.

People just want to try to go viral with an opposing opinion. Yes. So there's that. I'm also sure there's some others out there that are like, yeah, girl, this is hell. I have no light in my eyes. This is tough. Thanks for shining a light on it. this is rough out here and I wish I knew.

You know, like, it's weird. There's a lot of that in the comments too. I saw one comment on the cut article and it says parents talk about how hard it is, rightly so. So they shouldn't be surprised when someone decides that it sounds like a bad time. But she is speaking about it as an outsider who is making an assessment on a lifestyle she doesn't live in some rather inflammatory language. So I can't understand how it would strike a nerve. So we want to validate that. well, of course, we're never in the business of, like, pitting women against each other for their

life decisions. We support whatever you guys want to do. And in this conversation, it appeared that she is talking about her hometown friends, having kids in their 20s. That's her experience with what she's seen. She's from a suburb of Missouri, Springfield, Missouri. She's from Missouri. Right. She's from Missouri. So small town, suburban women in their 20s in a pretty tough state when it comes to maternal health care. I mean, like, there's a whole bigger conversation about like motherhood in the U.S. And how tough it is. Yeah, and why it's so hard. And the problems with all of that to maternity leave, maternal care, health care, mental health, all that stuff. So there is that. So her friends might be struggling and having a hard time. And they agree with that statement.

I mean, people took it as an attack on their choices to have kids. And you're welcome to interpret it that way. But that's, I don't think that's what she was trying to say. but she was trying to say in my experience right now at a 27 years old, she'd probably deliver that opinion differently in 10 years. She is saying doesn't look like a good time. I don't disagree. It does not look like a great time to me either. You and I might have delivered that with some more nuance.

We do. But we're a lot older. Yes. And, you know, I don't think that she claims to speak about dating and relationships for a living. You know, you and I put out that episode and have since put out episodes where we talk about not wanting to have children, wanting to be child-free, and we speak of it with a lot of nuance.

And, you know, we... And sensitivity. We know that all the women around us, a lot of them have chosen to have children. We love their kids. We support their right to do so. It's not for me personally. I wouldn't have said it the way she said it. But we say this all the time.

Like, my decisions are not an attack on your decisions. I'm allowed to not want to have kids and also think it's great that you have kids. And I don't think that anybody's saying that having children is such a good time in the beginning. I don't know that anybody does it for happiness day one. You do it for fulfillment. You do it for all kinds of reasons. It's not easy. I'm watching my sister-in-law. She's seven months into having a baby. It's really tough. It's tough on your body. It's tough on your romantic relationship.

It's tough on your sleep. I mean, it's really hard. She's not wrong. Also, if it doesn't apply to you, the why do you care? This is the same thing of people. Like, recently we were talking with somebody and she was saying, like, moving in with a partner is really bad for your relationship. It's bad for your sex life. She's a sex expert. And she's sitting there talking to me. I just moved in with mine. I'm like, I'm not offended. we're having a great time. You know, like I made this decision. I had the information and that's not my experience.

So I really do see everything you're saying. I can validate it and also say, that's not my experience. I'm not offended by it. But it's just like, I always think that. It's like you're offended because there's truth in it for you. If not, you wouldn't care. You'd be like, hell, I'm having a great time as a mom. And we see moms that obviously couldn't imagine not being a mom.

and there's good times and bad and ups and downs, and they're super happy and fulfilled with their decision. So on top of that, I think historically women who have chosen not to have children have been insulted and belittled way more than mothers ever have. And I'm not saying like two wrongs don't make a right. Like maybe the tide is shifting to be like you don't have to have kids, obviously, and we're part of that conversation as well.

I think that women that have dared to say I don't want to have children on the internet is open season. them from men from the conservatives from ultra-religious people i people have so many comments to say as though you are insulting their life decisions and it's like i'm not insulting your life decisions if that's what you find fulfillment and happiness from you should go do that i find fulfillment and happiness from talking about my sex life on a podcast you don't have to do that either you might think that's the dumbest thing in the world and i don't care yeah it's not going to stop me doesn't insult me i don't care i was It made me think of Seth Rogan, who I feel like is one of the more famous male.

The most famous male. I was trying to find his quote where he's just like... He said it doesn't sound like that much fun to me. It doesn't sound fun. You know, and I don't want to say like, oh, a man says it and he doesn't receive backlash. He has. People, but probably not as much as she would as a 27-year-old woman. He's become like this poster child for I don't want kids.

We're like, as like, no one's asking George Clooney. Right. He's just, I think he's made it kind of his brand. It doesn't sound that much fun to me. Yeah. All right. couple of headlines for your week and then we're going to let you guys go. I got to go. I got to go. She's got to get to Mexico City.

Loser Morgan Wall. This is page six. Luser Morgan Wallen walks off SNL stage as credits role seemingly skipping the after party. Absolutely. He skipped the after party. So he co-hosts, he was the musical guest. Mikey Madison was the host and you see as the credits roll he hugs her. He kind of waves. He walks right off the stage, right towards the camera. Yeah, everyone's they're celebrating a really grueling week at summer camp essentially. It's just such an accomplishment to put that show together. Everybody in the stage is like, oh my God. You know, and he walks right into the camera.

He walks off stage and then he gets on his private jet and says, take me to God's country. Tennessee. No offense to Tennessee. God's country. I think they just like ripped this 80-year-old woman out of like a protest, like manhandled or in Tennessee. Like I'm just saying the headline I saw in Tennessee was not very godlike.

This morning. Yeah. She was probably just protesting. testing human rights. Like, you know, you know. It's interesting.

I don't think anybody expected this not very, this not liberal guy, this anti-liberal guide, like stick around, hang out in New York City with the cast. But it is truly such an insult to how much work and time

and energy goes into this profoundly difficult show to make to walk off stage like that. It's on purpose. It is meant to be insulting. And then to follow up with that pose. Like, like, no one made you do this.

Like, if you're just like, this is stupid. I'm a mega celebrity. This is beneath me. Then don't do it. Yeah. If you think this is some like liberal institution, you don't want any part of it,

then don't have a part of it. Don't be a part of it, exactly. Amen. Vanderpumperul's alum, Rachel Levis is now a professional sound healer. Okay. I always was just kind of wondering like where is she going to go from here. And it's being a sound bath, sound healer in Arizona. Raquel.

Rachel. She changed it to Rachel, as people would forget. I think this is good for her. I think that she doesn't need to be on reality TV. I think we don't need it. She's finding herself. I have to tell you. The last thing I want to do when I'm relaxing is being a room with Raquel Levis.

Because I love Scandival so much. I couldn't get enough of it. Nothing makes me relaxed less than that. All I could do is think about it. I know. Well, good for her. Hope she, you know, she finds her truth.

And the last one, Courtney Kardashian and Scott Dissick's son, Rain, addresses rumor. Justin Bieber is his real dad. this has been people have always thought this I did not know this I'm surprised you've never heard this so people think that she had an affair with him when she was sort of like on a break from Scott

and then told Scott that she was pregnant which is filmed on the show and Scott's like pretty pissed that they're having another kid he does not want this but people have always thought that Rain was Justin Bieber's kid oh my God well Justin Bieber's in the news lot I think he's kind of crashing out this week a little bit but anyway it's apparently he is not Courtney's baby daddy.

I kind of forgot they dated. And Rain said on Instagram live, bro, I swear, Justin Bieber's not my dad. So. It's crazy because I think Rain is like a baby. I'm like, who taught you how to do Instagram stories? Rain is like the unhinged one, right? He like, can't be managed. No, I don't think he's.

You're thinking of Mason. I think Mason's. No, no, Mason. I know Mason. He's the unhinged. Yeah, Mason's the oldest. He got his like social media taken away years ago. I think they all are.

Yeah, I don't think any of those people can be managed. Yeah, Courtney's kids. Yeah, Courtney's kids. Really lacks parenting. Yeah, Scott just gives their dad. And that's not a critique. I don't hate the way Courtney parents. She's like, whatever.

But, you know, Chloe forever. Okay, guys, well, that's your snack. We're going to let you go. And girls got to eat.com. For whatever you need, Girls Got to Eat a podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess. I'm starting my tour this weekend in Chicago. So you can get tickets at Ash Hess.

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