Girls Gotta Eat - What's Wrong With Being Confident? feat. Katie Sturino
Episode Date: August 27, 2018We could not love this episode/guest more. Katie Sturino of The 12ish Style joins us in studio (bearing gifts for our sweaty summer bodies) to chat about body confidence, breaking the fashion blogger ...mold, fearless dating tactics (including how she met her fiancé), the secret lives of Insta-famous dogs, and more. We also play a round Is This Weird? with a brain buster that silences the room, Rayna endorses public transit, and Ashley gives an update on the guy she went out with/wants to pass along to her friend. Enjoy! Follow Katie on Instagram @The12ishStyle, and follow Girls Gotta Eat @GirlsGottaEatPodcast. Shop our apparel and accessories at GirlsGottaEatPodcast.shop. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I am.
For real.
No one's more psycho than me.
But I'm...
Challenge accepted.
Welcome back to another episode of Girls' Gotta Eat Podcast.
Good morning.
Oh, my God.
It's so early.
It's so early.
I haven't been up this early since I had a job.
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10 in the fucking morning.
Oh, God.
I got like chills through my body.
Okay, listen.
Okay.
People are listening to this way earlier.
in 10 a year.
That's their problem.
Okay, I haven't had a job in two years.
But I met friends before this.
I've been up since 7.30.
Can you believe it?
You? No.
I actually, I just assume that like when I don't hear back from Ashley until 1130,
it's not like, you know, you're usually worried about your friends.
But Ashley's case, but she's like, I'll hear from her.
Always sleeping.
You don't have a job either.
Live your best life.
But I'm never on the subway at this hour.
And I have to tell you, I was looking around.
I might get up in the morning now just to meet guys on the subway.
There's one reason to get up.
There's so much AM talent on the subway.
Talent.
You're like a fucking frat guy.
There's so much talent on the subway.
Who are you?
There are so many, like, young business professionals on their way to work.
I've never heard a girl refer to guys as talent.
There's like the duchiest phrase.
Talent to my left, talent to my right.
It was everywhere.
Who are you right now?
She's wearing a fucking signature.
Manu backwards baseball hat.
Like, what are you?
Slaying, dude. So much talent on the subway this morning, dude.
So much talent, bro.
I want to hit all that talent.
You know, you keep talking shit, but when I wake up every morning for the next week
and meet dudes and I have dates lined up for the whole month, you're going to be jealous.
Sleep until noon over there.
I'm like, dude, you meet as your dog.
I understand all the morning talent.
Anyways, we were out kind of late last night.
You did something that I thought was so amazing.
Very impressive.
No.
Okay.
So we talked about this last week with the guy I went out with, and I thought that he would be a good match for my friend Merrill.
And I told you guys, some of you guys sent great suggestions and advice for how to do the handoff or whatever you want to call it.
I want to come up like a funny name for how you just like pass off someone to somebody else.
The alley-o.
We need like a sports reference.
Whatever.
Interception?
No, it's like you're kind of like passing it, like you're passing somebody off.
Through a pick.
What are you doing?
And Merrill's going to intercept it.
I don't fucking know.
Raina, okay.
Who are you this morning talking about town of the subway?
Now you're talking about sports.
Okay.
So I was like, I'm going to do this.
I'm going to make it happen.
And also I just want to be clear.
I went out with this guy on a Wednesday.
And he texted me after the day, but he also didn't text me for like a week.
I was like, he's not in love with this guy's not like.
super into me. I mean, I think he liked me. I think he would go out with me again, but he wasn't
like hounding me to go out with him again. So I didn't feel like it was going to be like a super
rejection. Also, no like kissing. You weren't holding hands. It wasn't like, nothing happened
between you guys. Right. Exactly. I would feel like nothing physical happened. So last night, um, I texted
him. Rain and I were out. And I text him, hey, I had a great time last week. I hope this isn't
too awkward, but I can't help but think that you might like a friend of mine. And then like an
emoji, like the grit teeth. Like, ooh, this is awkward. And then I don't know what I'm like 12
years old. I was like, she's very pretty and speak Spanish. Like, I'm just like rattling off her
resume. She's very pretty. And he wrote, I was so nervous. I know. I was so nervous from
to respond. When he responded, I had to have Rainer read it. Like, you know, sometimes you can't,
you like, can't see it. You have to have someone like you care about tell you the news. I was scared.
Yeah. And so he wrote, ha, ha, ha. I mean, you went on a date with me. So I think you could be
a good judge of being a good fit for your friend. And I was like, oh, he's into it. Right?
And I wrote, ha. I mean, I think you're awesome. I just don't feel like,
I'm really that datable right now, and my friend Merrill is kind of the best, but totally cool if
you're not interested or if this is too awkward.
And he was like, this is an awesome conversation.
And then he writes, like, as long as it's not awkward for you, because I'd still like us
to be friends.
I think you're super cool.
We had a great conversation.
I'm like, what an angel.
This whole thing is exactly how you wanted to play out.
And I think he took a few minutes to respond.
And I thought about it internally, like, somebody had said this to me.
And initially you're like, insulted.
You're like, this person's passing me off.
But then you think about who they're passing you off to.
And like, if somebody wants to recommend.
you to somebody that they love. Like, how flattering is that? Right. And I'm not going to read
you guys the whole entire text thread. It was really great. I sent a photo of her, one that I took of her.
You got to send a photo. Yeah, of course. You want the photo. People want to know. Exactly.
It sent the photo and he wrote back the emoji with the hard eyes. I'm like, oh my gosh,
this is going great. So I sent her phone number and he texted her last night. I love it.
But I feel like I have some advice for anybody who wants to try to do this. And so I talk to a good
guy friend of mine, my best guy friend Rob, he has, he has done this before and he's also had it done
to him. And the move is that you just don't want to reject somebody. Like, you don't want to be like,
hi, I don't like you, but maybe you'd like my friend. I think the key is to like put it back on
yourself, build up your friend, being like, I don't know if we are a match or like, I don't know,
I'm just not in a great place right now or you're going to like my friend way more than me. Like,
I think the key is to like not, is for someone not to feel rejected. Like not to be like, hey, I, I
I'm not interested in you.
But how about this person?
I think there's like a certain way to phrase it.
Yeah.
I think you didn't say anything bad about him.
You just put the honest on yourself.
And like, that was it.
You introduced him to a cute girl.
No guy's going to be like, no, don't introduce me to this super cute girl.
But I think it's like you don't want to, like, if you feel rejected by somebody,
that's not somebody that you're like, and now I'm going to like take dating advice from you.
Like I think the key is to like do it in a certain way so that you're more like,
I'm just not the girl for you.
You know, like, this is on me.
But like, here's my other friend.
who is super pretty and awesome, and I think you guys would hit it off.
And so I just feel like that's the advice I want to offer.
Like, it just feels very different if you're like, yeah, I don't like you, but maybe
you like this person.
I feel like there's a total, those are two totally different things, you know?
Yeah, and he didn't seem insulted by it.
Also, he didn't, like, he called you.
Like, he didn't talk to you for a week.
It's not like, yeah.
Like, neither of you are insulted.
So I think it's great.
I think that, like, there's all kinds of people in the world that are like not going
to be a fit for you in a romantic sense, but they're not garbage.
Like, there's no reason to never speak to.
them again. Well, and that's the thing, too. Like, I just think that it's hard to find people that you
really do match with. So I don't even think I wouldn't be offended if someone did this to me.
Not everybody's a match for everybody else. This is a great guy. He just wasn't the guy for me.
All right, so we'll let you guys know how it goes with them. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not going to
give everybody, like, every detail of their, their dating life. I also am not sure I want them
to, like, seriously date. Because then, like, another friend off the market? Was this a terrible
idea? You did this to yourself. I did this to myself. Maril, like, can't ever go out with me
Again, she's like, I'm just with my boyfriend.
I'm like, fuck.
Yep.
You created your own prison.
Dying alone.
Okay.
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So excited.
Female number two.
Katie Sterino.
It's your official title now.
You're really special.
I really do.
We feel special.
Yeah, we do.
I sent Ashley your Instagram profile, and I was like, we have to get her.
She's so great.
And Ashley was like, fuck yes.
And then Raina all of a sudden turned into some big dog person.
Like, I'm the dog crazy person, but Raina was like, she's toast mom.
She's toast mom.
And she like freaked out.
And I was like, okay.
So Rena, how long had you been following toast?
Toast.
So just so you guys know, Toast Meets World is Katie's dog.
Well, it's Katie's doggy.
RIP.
RIPE E toast.
But this was the first dog I ever followed on Instagram, maybe like two years ago, two and a half
years ago.
I was, and in my mind, I'm like, why have I following an animal?
This is crazy that the world has evolved.
I'm following this animal.
But I couldn't get enough once I started following toast.
Yeah.
And you have two other Instafamous dogs as well.
Well, Underpants passed away.
I just did.
It's like, I'm so, it's a really rough gear for dogs.
This happened with Chelsea Handler.
They both passed within the same.
year, Tammy and Chunk.
I did not even know that.
I was like a mess because I felt very close to her and Chunk or like me and my dog's
relationship.
But I get like I really attached to these dogs on Instagram.
I'm devastated for Chelsea Hintler right now.
But yes.
She got two more.
Okay.
She's a big, she'll adopt like senior dog.
Yeah.
She's such amazing.
I know.
And that's kind of how I feel too.
Like Toast was my, Tost wasn't even my first dog.
Muppet actually.
Muppet's revenge is her handle.
She is alive and kick in and will probably outlive everyone because she's such a bitch.
She's, she's like, she's like 10, 11.
They're all rescues.
We have, like, we're rescue or bust.
I don't want to ask you right now.
Okay, all right, good.
My dog was like, a stray.
Thank God.
Because if it wasn't, then I'd have to be like, I don't really like you.
No, so we, we have talked about dogs a few times.
And like, any time I can like literally slip in, adopt, don't shop.
Yeah, adopt.
For sure.
Some of our listeners have been like, I heard that.
I really respect it.
Yeah.
I met people at the dog park and I'm like, where did you get this dog?
And they're like, oh, this pet shop in Chelsea?
You just turn around and walk away.
I'm like, I can't even continue talking about it.
What are you talking about?
It's my favorite move.
It's like, because people, so Toast became like a big internet sensation.
And she was a Ruby King Charles Spaniel with no teeth and her tongue was out.
And she really was like the world's first and last dog super model.
She wrote a book, Toast Hampton.
She got married on Real Housewives of New York.
I freaked out about this wedding.
I like, you would not get enough of this wedding.
And people will be like, oh, yeah.
Yeah, you know, I saw a celebrity dog get married on Housewives.
And I was like, yeah, fucking dog.
It was my dog.
It was my dog.
Her wedding was nicer than my wedding by like a lot.
And also the day of that, like my mom, my sister ever, like friends were like,
should we come in for this?
And I was like, no, it's going to be like a couple of creeps.
Like I just did not know how big it would be.
And it was, did you read, did you go?
Did you go?
No, I wish I would have gone.
You would have gone.
Hell, yeah, I didn't know about it at the time.
It was when we posted.
It was crazy.
And I just, I did not think it would be a big deal.
And then it was like a whole housewives episode.
Vanity Fair covered her wedding.
Holy shit.
Town and country covered her wedding.
It was like, are you in New York Socialite?
This is what happens with your wedding.
That was her wedding.
And I, meanwhile, I'm like, maybe like the Daily Mail, like, right about, like, maybe.
Me and my amazing business.
Yeah.
Like, maybe.
Wait, who did she marry?
She married my friend Amanda Hurst, dog, Finn, who is gay as hell.
And they, like, it was a total arranged thing, but, like, it was more of, like, a power move so they could come together to help spread awareness about puppy mills.
You really brought together, like, two families of New York City.
Wait, didn't toast wear, like, Versace?
What did you have a?
This is also, my friend has the sunloup of me saying this.
She wore a custom marquiza, which is.
how I said it on the show, which people made fun of me about a lot.
She were a custom Marquesa dress.
She had a fitting in, like, the corner office at Markeza.
With like, with like people buzzing around being like, take it in over here, put it in over here.
And I was like, this is insane.
And we auctioned the dress off after for Humane Society.
It was like, it was crazy.
How should you make on the dress?
I actually don't know.
We had the Humane Society auction off.
But we, I think we raised over $12,000 for puppy mill.
rescue during the wedding.
Oh, that's great.
Yeah.
This is amazing.
I want to come back to the dogs, but I just want you to, like, also introduce yourself
further to people and just like who you are also, because you're important also.
So I started following you on a stream a while ago, but you have this, like, amazing vibe
of, like, confidence and fashion, and you're so hot and, like, yeah, I have a girl crush on you.
But, okay, talk about who you are and what you do.
I have a blog called The Twelve-ish Style, and I have a blog.
I have extra air behind my S's.
Like, I have like a, I have like a light speech impediment.
So when I, it's when I hear myself say the 12-ish style, it's all I can hear is the
so, so sorry, listeners, for my extra air.
But I started a blog three years ago.
I was a size 12 at the time.
I'm a size 16 now, and I've fluctuated in my weight my entire life, ranging pretty much between those two sizes.
Okay.
But I've never been thin, and I punished myself for years and years and years trying to achieve a body type that my physically just would never get to.
But that's our body type ideal in the media and in the world right now.
So that was a really frustrating journey for me.
And I had this moment when I did an article with Man Repeller, the blog, where they covered my style.
And all the comments were all about women just being like, I've never seen my body type.
I've never seen anyone that looks like me on Instagram, on a fashion blog.
And I was like, this is true.
And at the time, I was just, I was doggaging toast.
Did we, I never to pick up on that?
Mamajean, momager, dogger.
I love it.
Or the Christianer.
I'm like.
I am.
For real.
No one's more psycho than me.
But I'm...
Challenge accepted.
So I was doggedging and I actually had a PR company called Tinder PR.
Do you know this?
Uh-uh.
No.
So I did, I worked for myself.
I had like a tiny little PR shop.
And about two years after I launched, Tinder came out.
And someone was like, I just saw this dating app launch called Tinder.
Oh, so you invented the word.
And they were like, and I was like, it's a blip.
Like, no one is, like, dating, internet dating is not a thing.
Like, apps won't be a thing.
Okay.
So, like, cut to me just awkwardly, like, answering people for, like, two years, just
being, like, being like, I'm so sorry, I don't work with the app.
I'm sorry you can't find anyone to match with you.
Literally, I had someone message me being like, I've been on the app for months and no one
will swipe me.
Is there something wrong with my profile?
Did you just start giving advice to people?
Just totally.
Totally. I'm so listed in unofficial advice for people. Anyway, so I eventually changed my name, but I was Tinder before Tinder is what I like to say.
Yeah, you definitely were. Real pioneer. Did they try to like come for you at all? Or what you were like to. I ended up. I did sell my website to them. To get. Yeah. For like not a life changing amount of money. But like at least I got compensated for having to like. Invening the name. How did you come up with that name? Tinder is the smallest piece of wood you need to start a fire.
Oh, I never thought Tinder.
So it makes sense for PR and.
for dating. Yeah, because it's just like a Tinder. I was just like a little guy, like, out there,
like, you know, making your brand go and like this is like a little swipe. I want to talk about
your style and your fashion next. Okay, great. So have you always been really into like fashion,
jewelry accessories style? Yeah, I've always loved clothes. And I think that that's, I've, I've always
also struggled with clothes and I've been a big accessories person because I can't fit into a lot of
the pieces that I love. Like, you're wearing a beautiful jumpsuit today and I, and I, I,
I'll run into you on the street and be like,
I love that where'd you get it? I go, I check it out,
and they stop making it in a 10 or a 12.
You're also very tall.
I am tall.
How tall are you?
I'm 5, 10 and a half.
Right.
So it's hard to find stuff also when you're that tall.
But so, like, I want to back up, the man repeller thing,
is that was that what started it, where you were like, oh,
the manor thing.
It was like my, my aha moment of realizing that, like, why don't I be that person?
Right.
Yeah.
People want this.
Like, I love shopping.
Like, why don't I just talk about where I'm getting things?
And so that's kind of where it started and what it evolved to was a place for women of all sizes to come to feel just an example of how it feels to be confident and body positive.
And let me clarify, when I say body positive, I do not mean that I'm like talking to my cellulite and being like, girl, you look good.
I am not doing that.
Like I'm not screaming about how I love my butt.
I'm just not, it's not something, it's not in the forefront of my brain.
It doesn't run your life.
It doesn't run my life.
I'm not sitting there walking by a mirror saying, ugh, like, I don't do that anymore.
And I did that for a very long time.
Yeah.
Is there something that happened like a catalyst for this?
Because the reason why I, like, I love your Instagram and your whole vibe is like,
you do straddle this like line of like confidence and loving yourself, but you're not like,
you're not obnoxious and preachy about it.
And like, it's such a cool thing and it's rare.
So I was wondering like if there's something that happened to like,
The catalyst for me feeling good about myself really was, as my blog evolved, like, something clicked about probably six months in where I was like, this isn't a shopping place.
This is a place to look around and say, hey, I'm not crazy for being the size.
Like, I'm not crazy for not looking like Jennifer Aniston.
Like, I'm not a fat, obese person.
Like, I'm just a regular person.
And I've been made to feel like something's wrong with my body.
Right.
And I think sometimes as you get older too, just, you know, I mean, it's really difficult when you're like 22.
Well, I mean, I'm young as hell, but like.
Yeah. Sorry, we're all just like.
No, that's fine.
But I think you realize, and I think now it's a lot better.
But I remember when I was kind of younger growing up in like a teenager and stuff and my body was changing.
And I didn't realize that like everything's photoshopped and everything's fake and like everybody's starving and like everybody in Hollywood.
And every time I meet a.
actual like celebrity celebrity like kind of Kate Bosworth was at an event we were at and they're just
like a naturally small and I'm like this isn't even what I want to look like no they're like little
owl people yeah they're like tiny also I it I like it's like the Jimmy Kimmelification of like the
body do you remember when Jimmy Kimmel was like fat and happy and like kind of yeah but then he they put
him on they put him on on on that night show and like he shrunk yeah and they put him in the tight suits
and the small-teller things,
and they made him, like, a different-looking person.
Yeah.
But, yes, it's very interesting the way that we put people.
Have you seen Carrie Underwood?
Not a person.
Well, she was on American Idol.
She was, like, curvy.
Carrie Underwood was, like, had, like, never been on a plane.
And, like, I remember.
And it was, like, a size 10.
I don't know.
But they put her through that Hollywood machine.
Oh, it's insane.
Yeah.
But you imagine if you're, like, in every magazine,
you're on television, you're just looking at yourself.
Like, I take photos myself for my Instagram.
account. And sometimes I'll see a photo and I'm like, oh my God, like I look like that. And that's
crazy for me to feel like that. But I'm not a big person. But I'll see a photo myself and I'll
feel insecure about it. So like I can't even imagine it magnified by millions of yours. Yes. But on the
other hand is you have to learn to, you have to learn to feel comfortable as you are because if
you're starting to let that outside stuff dictate, which is so easy to do and I'm not criticizing
anyone because it's very hard to do. Right. But it's you have to like,
say, hey, like, I know who I am.
And that's, like, the journey of being in, like, the quote-unquote public eye, I think.
You think it's, like, so much harder in big cities, like, New York, L.A., Miami, where everybody is so
beautiful.
Do you think the pressure's higher?
Oh, L.A.
I mean, that was, I love that Amy Schumer bit when she was, like, my arms, register his legs in
L.A.
Like, it's just, like, so funny.
Because I was like, I don't even want to fuck with that.
Like, people say, like, people joke, like, you're New York skinny.
They're like, you're New York skinny.
You would be all-S skinny.
Chicago, yeah, you're like a Chicago.
Chicago 10. Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, like, Chicago 15.
I'm like a Chicago.
In Chicago, I'm walking down.
I'm like, I feel good here.
Right.
I fly.
I'm flying.
I'm from Milwaukee and I am a supermodel.
Like, I'm walking out and I'm like, it's so hard to be the pretty one.
Like, that's how I feel.
And like, but for so long here, you know, I moved to your right after college.
You're just, you are.
You're running with the hottest women on the planet.
They're type A.
They are working their show.
They're not just pretty.
They also work out.
They all get up at 6 in the morning and work out.
None of them can find a boyfriend.
Don't worry.
Exactly.
Exactly.
We're all just out here.
I don't know.
I think, should I read that DM we got since we're kind of talking about it?
Yeah, so we get a lot of listener emails.
And one of the ones we get a lot is like, you girls seem really confident.
How do you stay so confident?
How do you do it?
I don't know.
I think I've accepted that there's lots of things wrong with me.
And I have a lot of flaws.
And so does everybody else.
And it doesn't make me less of a person.
And I'm okay with it, you know?
And I wake up lots of mornings and I'm bloated or I look at my arms and, like, stuff is jiggilyer than it used to be or I stretch marks on my tits where they didn't used to be.
And that sucks.
But, like, it doesn't make my life any worse.
Yeah.
It's fine.
Yeah.
I think it boils down to, like, realizing what people actually look like.
And I think it's so, like, I appreciate so much when people to show their real bodies.
Like, Sports Illustrated did the body issue and the one, like, softball player, like, she was naked and, like, her stomach was hanging out.
And I think people just went crazy because they were like they so easily could have just edited this.
But it's not really what people look like.
It's so fake.
Yes.
Someone messaged us and she said, I have a question for you.
How does a plus size woman date in 2018?
I want to get late.
I want a boyfriend eventually.
And she was like, I eat really well and I work out a lot.
Unfortunately, I have a thyroid condition and kind of seems to go through that.
But she just says, I'm really trying really hard and I'm a confident person, but sometimes it's just hard.
and sometimes it feels like I'm faking it
and I'm just looking for some advice.
I don't know.
Like I had a hard time thinking of how to answer it.
Like I feel like I didn't used to be as confident
and I would like worry about what I look like.
I used to be heavier.
And I don't know.
Like I think a lot of it's just growing up.
A lot of it's just realizing like everybody deals with this
and this is like a normal thing.
So for my body specifically,
I am in a definitive category like in terms of body shape.
Like I am curvy, I'm thick.
Like, I've got big feet, big hands.
I'm tall.
Like, I'm a big, bigger girl, right?
I understand what my body shape is.
And I understand that there are people who have preferences towards that and that there
are people who have preferences towards fit girls, short girls, tall girls, just the same
way that I love big, fat, hairy men.
Right.
That is just my type.
Like, I don't, like, literally, I'm not swiping on like, I'm engaged.
I'm not swiping anymore at all.
We'll get to that.
But yes.
But like I'm not, it's okay.
My point is it's okay to have a type.
It's not rude.
And so I am assuming that if you, like, you see me in my photos, you see what I look like.
I'm showing you everything because I have a theory for dating profiles.
You have to go head body.
You got to go face, just your face, then photo of your full body back to your face, bring them back
to your body so that they can really see what they look like or what you look like.
and you're not trying to post a picture from 10 years ago,
like, when you look like for me out.
You still do that.
That blows my mind.
I don't understand it.
What's the point?
You're going to show up and then they're going to be like, you're going to be like,
you can't just like entice somebody with your personality.
They're a stranger.
Like, they're going to be like, you lied to me.
No.
Same with guys.
I don't want a guy that's six, two, and he shows up and he's 5, 7.
I'm like, you're a liar.
Oh, by the way, my fiancé lied to me and said that he was six feet tall.
He is straight at 5'8.
And this, I like didn't take him seriously for months because I was like, you are so short.
I can't breathe.
But like, but then he like warmed his way into my heart, which is a lesson for the ladies in the world because we have these requirements that are made up.
We talk about this all the time.
Yeah.
Like it's not about like a type on paper.
And like, no.
I love that though because sometimes guys, they just wear you down.
Yeah, she totally wore me down.
That's what happened with my serious ex.
I was like, I'm not dating you.
Forget it for a month.
And then finally I was like, guess I'm in love now.
Yeah, guess is it.
Guess we're here now.
He wore me down.
That's why I'm a big advocate of meeting guys in the wild, though, because like, just, like,
I'll get, like, a vibe or like a smell.
Yeah.
And, like, I love you.
You're an animal.
I love, yeah.
Oh, my God.
Last night, I, like, couged the shit out of this guy.
We'll talk about that.
Anyways, I just think that, like, sometimes you just, like, get a vibe from somebody,
but, like, on a dating app, I might be, like, he's too short.
He lives in Hoboken.
Yeah.
He's not a millionaire.
So you kind of had to, like, push through.
Is he a big, fat, hairy guy?
Yeah.
Okay.
How do you guys meet?
Just a little shorter.
What?
How'd you guys meet?
Bumble.
Okay.
So I slammed dating apps.
I had, so I got divorced two years ago.
And coming out of my divorce, I had been together with my ex-husband for 10 years.
So I had no idea with what dating apps were like.
How long were you together before you got married?
We were together for, I think we're together for eight and a half a year.
got married, got divorced.
And I'm just curious how did you guys meet?
Through friends.
Through friends.
Yeah.
But so I didn't know how dating apps worked and I was just like, oh, I'll never meet a single
person again.
Like, it's over for me.
So I had like a, I had like about 10 seconds of feeling like that.
And then I got on dating apps and I was like, let's do this.
But what I found really quickly about New York City men is that they're terrible.
Right.
And they're awful.
Worse than, I don't know.
You talk about this a lot.
All men?
Well, so this is my, and I don't know.
Except Chicago.
I don't know your dating history.
or if you've done this before.
So I'll just say this blindly,
that I had a friend in Boston and I had a friend in Chicago.
And what I started to do was date in,
I call them second tier markets because that's like a work term.
But I would, I'd have them open the app for me in that city,
swipe for about 20 minutes,
and then they'd log out and I'd see who I caught, you know?
And then.
Seriously.
Yeah.
And then I would go through.
And then it would be like, hey, I'm Jeff.
Are you in Chicago right now?
Because, like, it says you're in New York.
I'm like, oh, she's there for work.
What's up?
And so, and then you, like, see if you can get a connection with a guy.
And then the craziest thing happened.
Guys in Philadelphia, guys in Austin, guys in Chicago, Boston, all these places.
They're like, can I take you to dinner?
Yes.
Like, any time.
I'm in different city.
Any other city.
Any other city.
Literally, they're, like, checking in.
They're trying to see you, like, that week.
So I would fly and go on dates because I was.
You did.
You get on planes and go on dates.
Oh, I'm an insane person.
No, I'm loving this.
Also, I feel like that's that app Raya is like guys all over the country.
To me, gay guys?
No, it's for celebrities.
For celebrities.
Like, you totally...
To meet gay guys.
Have you been on Raya?
No.
I can't get in that.
Raya's just like a bunch of guys who like shave their pubes into like a triangle.
Okay, never mind that.
I feel better.
I'm not...
No, Raya is for like, are you looking for a guy who's looking in the mirror more than you're
looking in the mirror.
Okay.
Go on Raya.
Forget it then.
Anything you thought was happening on Raya is not happening on Raya.
Good to know.
All right.
So you're flying all over the country to date and second tier market.
I'm going to say it again, on Bumble.
Like I'm not, I'm like a special cool dating app.
I'm just meeting, I'm looking for like a regular guy who just wants to be nice and hang out.
Like, bar pretty low.
But like I.
But like I.
But like I dare you to find one in New York.
But literally, right?
Like I.
And also guys.
the best, you talk about this all the time, I don't need to tell you this, but like, the funniest part about just starting to date in New York City was that, like, you'd go on, you'd be like halfway through like a whatever after you finally get an actual interaction and they'll be like, listen, I'm not looking for anything.
And I'd be like, I'm sorry. Do I even know your name?
Right. We talk about us all the time how men just like, they assume like she's a vagina. She must be an insane person.
She definitely wants to have kids with me.
She definitely wants a proposal tonight.
Yeah, and it's like, you guys are so stupid.
Rinna's ex recently was like, look, I just don't think it's a good idea if we get back together.
She's like, bitch, I don't want to get back together with you.
They assume.
I hadn't seen him in four years.
We went out for a drink and he was, he cried the whole time.
I was fine.
And then I texted him the next day to make sure he just didn't, I don't know, kill himself.
And he was like, I just don't think it's like a really good idea if we get back together.
Get back together?
They just assumed.
I'm sorry.
I don't want to interrupt your.
bartending shift to tell you this, but like we're not getting back together.
You could go back to Rolling Silverware, motherfucker.
I'm not mad.
I'm not mad about this anymore.
This is so funny.
But anyway, guys just think that you're there.
You got to know that when you're walking in a room, they're just assuming you're
definitely there to have sex in a minimum, and at most of the time you're there to marry them.
You know, I found this guy last night who had only been in New York City for six months.
Catch them off the boat.
I'm fresh off the boat, and I was like, ooh, got to get them all.
Like, we will be just fine because, like, New York hasn't seeped into you yet.
Well, so my fiance ended up.
Was he in a different city?
Well, kind of.
Queens.
A different city.
Long distance.
Oh, yeah.
Not a girl.
So it's a totally different thing.
Not even like Brooklyn.
He like, he had like, he was divorced.
He lived on Long Island and he had like moved back to Queens.
And so for me, that was a different thing.
He was like, you know what I mean?
Like, that is a different thing.
But also I will tell you that.
on our first date, he was like, so I'm thinking I'm probably just going to delete Bumble because I'm not sure I need to meet anyone else.
Oh, he, oh.
And then I was like, you should probably reevaluate your life.
Like, we are like mid-date one.
And you're too short for me.
And you're also a midget.
But like, don't listen to this.
Wait, hold on a second, though.
I want to go back to the flying around the country for the date.
How many times did you fly around the country?
Like, how many?
Like a lot.
Yeah.
Like my most popular.
cities were Boston,
Chicago? I feel like an escort. My most
popular city is for a Met. We're at Boston
and Chicago. Oh, my mom doesn't listen to this.
Big dudes live there, though. They like,
you need a big dude. A strapping, like, Midwestern
dude. You don't understand. When I was single,
I was a predator. I was out in the streets.
I call my best friend the predator. We used to call her
that. She's married now with kids. Yeah. In Chicago,
you can bear hunt.
And you sit, yeah. And like, I literally,
I'd like be across the street. I'd be like,
ooh, wait a boy. And then like,
I'd like follow you down this street.
Right. And then I'm like, and then on several occasions, I just straight up was like, hello, I would love to give me my number.
And like, it was like, they were like, you are insane and no one, zero point zero people have ever called me from ever giving my number out.
Just want you to know that.
I respect putting yourself out there, though.
But like, do you see why I, like, my fiance, you see that I'm insane and like my fiance just was sitting there being like, hello, I'm trying to marry you from day one.
But honestly, I think, and I still want to circle back to this.
Like, I do think the guys pick up on, like, confidence and, like, it's so attractive to them.
It's attractive or it knows who she is.
It's attractive.
Right.
It's a specific thing.
Yeah, I'm like, I'm obviously quite confident.
And what I'm saying is in the wild, that went over, like, a lead balloon.
Okay.
I just feel like guys that like me really like me because I'm a specific thing.
They either do or they don't.
Sometimes they do not.
I know who I am.
But I think a guy that wants a woman that's confident knows what she is, entrepreneurial, whatever.
They're like in it to win.
And I think a guy that wants a wife that's going to be at home and cook them dinner, like, you're not the girl for that guy.
You do or you don't.
And that's okay.
And I always say my sister is like the pretty sister.
Like my sister is universally, like every guy everywhere is always like, oh, your sister's hot.
Yeah.
And that's my life.
But I know that I'm a type.
And what I'm trying to say to your listeners is it's okay to be a type or to have a type.
So I think a lot of girls are like, this guy doesn't want to be with me, what's wrong with me?
And it's like there's nothing wrong with anybody.
There's like a shoe for every foot for the thing.
Like there's nothing wrong with you because one person or because a couple people don't want to be with you.
Like confidence is not for everybody.
And meekness is not for everybody.
And that's okay.
Like there will be a million people that don't like you and there's a lot of people you don't like.
Right.
Right. Like, I'll go out with the best guys. They're nice and make good jobs. And I'm like, I don't, I just don't feel it. Yeah. For whatever reason. Like, maybe they'd be better with like a friend of mine, you know? Like, I don't know. Have you ever made a friend off of a dating app? A guy friend? I'm trying to figure this out because I've got out with a couple guys and I'm like, I feel like that's so insulting. Like, I don't want to date you, but I would like to be friends. I have flipped, I flipped a guy into a friend and he actually was during a New Hampshire exploration. But he tried to like, he was like, listen.
I don't think we're a match.
Like, I don't think we have a future together.
And I was like, yeah, yeah, neither do I.
But, like, I really like talking to you every day.
And he was like, I do too.
And then we became each other's, like, soundy bored for dates.
You know, we would, like, check in with each other, like, how did it go?
It was really.
It was really fun.
It was hard to do.
It was hard, but it was really fun.
And it never got, like, weird or sexual.
I love this.
Yeah.
That guy I went on nine-hour date with was, like, best guy, like, would be best friends with them,
but just don't want to fuck him.
Just flip him.
Yeah.
But it's like hard to do it.
Fuck him or flip him.
But I don't know if it is because I think some guys, especially the older like you get, you
lose a lot of your single friends and you don't have a lot of female interaction that isn't
dating.
It's kind of nice to have a friend that's a girl.
Yeah.
And for women to have a guy friend who you can like.
For sure.
Yeah.
I have a lot.
You're right.
As I get older, like as my guy doesn't get married.
I don't have any.
We're not really friends anymore.
And I get that.
Yeah.
I get it.
I'm not.
I wouldn't, if I was married, I wouldn't want my man out with some single girl.
All night long either.
I wouldn't like that.
Yeah.
So your fiancé, first date, you're like, forget it.
I'm out of here.
Or were you like, eh, I can see it.
I was laughing in his face.
First of all, I love to talk about this.
Why?
Well, first of all, he was wearing.
Oh, my God.
Walk us through it.
He was wearing.
Did he come into the city?
Did he fly in from Queens?
Oh, my God.
I hope my parents are not listening.
Do you know my parents will listen to this?
I hope my parents don't listen.
Every once in my mom will, like, figure out how to open up iTunes.
That's what, that's my fear.
Can't wait for Christmas dinner when she listened to this.
I can never go to Thanksgiving dinner.
I guess my mom's heard me talking about sucking dick and like getting it in the ass.
I can't ever go.
I'm going home for Roche's Shawna dinner in a couple weeks.
Can't look anybody in the face over the lock because I'm all good.
My parents have seen me do stand up.
I talk about all the things.
Oh, okay, okay.
My dad's like, I think he's usually pretty blacked out during it.
But like he's seen me do stand up twice and I know he's wasted.
He's had so many drinks before your last show.
I don't know how he was standing.
They were still putting down the drinks for the rest of the table.
and he was like ordering his next drink.
So I think he thinks I'm funny, but he doesn't remember what I said.
Oh, good.
That's his coping mechanism.
Fine.
Okay.
So tell us the story.
Sorry.
All right.
So when I went on, my first date with my, with my fiancee actually was I invited him just to
my house on Valentine's Day because we have been swiping and talking.
And literally my questions were like, how tall are you?
And he was like, six feet, lie.
And I was like, send me a picture of your hands because I want to make sure.
he didn't have like weird midget hands.
So he like how he like put it next to his like iPhone.
I was like,
which model iPhone do you have?
And then,
um,
and then he like came over,
but he was super late because he was like sitting at a bar like outside my house being like,
am I about to get like jumped?
Is it like a robbery scheme?
He asked me if I was,
uh,
because we were like,
you know,
we were texting like nudes.
And he,
he was like,
are you,
he asked me if I was like a cam girl,
which is like a,
he was like,
are you like a video chat?
Yeah, he was like, he was like, am I getting set?
Is this like a sex worker thing?
Right.
And I was like, no, I'm just like, I'm just like real like, I just know what I want.
And so he came in.
Like I had like the lights off like candles lit.
And he was like, he was like, hello.
And I peep through the doorway that he is wearing jaggings.
What?
You heard me right.
He's wearing straight up skinny jaggings.
He's like a cute.
chubby guy, skinny juggings, and a skin tight sail rack banana republic shirt with t-shirt
that says capiton on it.
Wait, I can't.
I'm like, I'm like, don't know what to say right now.
Which part?
About the part that I invite strangers into my house or the part that like.
All of it.
The candlelit house on Valentine's Day.
It was like, ooh, girl, let's treat yourself.
Like, bring this man over.
And I'm still, look, I'm like a big hand person.
So I'm still dying thinking about you being like, put your hand next to an iPhone.
What model is that?
Right.
Use a Comcast remote next time.
Yes.
Put your dick on the table.
I sent me a dick pick next to his remote.
And I was like, what is this?
Why did you use the Comcast remote?
Like, why not the Apple TV?
Like, it would have looked, your deck would have looked better.
Like his dick and his remote.
I'm like, why?
I know how big it is.
It's been inside me.
What about an AirPod box?
Like, that's like my new standard, right?
That should be it.
Oh, like your AirPods.
Yeah, the AirPods.
Because it's like an inch long.
You're like, look, look, my giant ass dick.
Your AirPods.
Your AirPods.
So, I've had nano.
Just a nap.
Yeah.
TBT.
We'll have another episode about Microdex.
Never mind.
No, we can't shame people.
It's like a medical disorder.
Okay, so he walks in, Jaggings.
We did.
He's there.
Capiton shirt.
But you peeked around the corner, like, in case you didn't like the way he looked, you could just hide.
No, no, no, no.
I was like, I was like, doors open.
Like, yeah, I was like doors open.
He, like, walked in.
I, like, peeped.
Like, he, like, came around the corner in my apartment.
And I was like, I was like, gulp outfit, but I was like, okay, face great.
Right, you can change the outfit.
Girls, you can always change their clothes.
Yes, a million percent.
Now he is like the snappiest dresser.
I love him.
Love it.
So that was our first date.
And after our first date, he was like, I was like, so did you like tell all your friends
about like your crazy night?
And he was like, no, because what if we get married?
And like, then everyone will like know about like how we met.
And then I like laughed in his.
face and I was like,
So the day was good, I guess?
The day was great.
Yeah, it was a long date, but I was, but I basically was like, to be clear, it wasn't a date.
That's all.
It was a, it was an interview in my bedroom that took place for, on Valentine's Day.
Was it hard to get his juggings off?
That's very funny.
Do you have to lube up his ankles?
That's very funny.
We've talked about this on that episode, right?
Your jokes are very funny.
She hooked up with somebody that she was like, his pants for the tithes I've ever seen.
And she was in London sending me Instagram stories.
I was like, how are you going to get those off?
Like, are you going to bring out the lube and you're like around his ankles?
Like, I got to get these off.
I've never seen a tighter pair of pants my entire life.
He definitely can't have kids.
There's just no way.
Like, it was so tight.
That guy fucks, okay?
Yeah, you were like bagged up in the best way.
That guy was so hot.
It was so crazy.
I wanted this trip.
It was like so boring.
All I could do was like, fuck the PR guy.
I just.
And I met her in Paris afterwards.
I was like, what are these bruises on your body?
Like, where have you been?
All I could do was fuck the PR guy.
So, what we're doing that.
So was this, I mean, or what we were getting at, this was like, just, you thought it was just like a booty call, right?
Yeah, I thought it was a booty call.
And he immediately, he said it was like love at first sight.
And he was like, I, he was like, but he like told me to my face.
He was like, all right, well, I love you now.
So we're together.
And then.
This is how I'm going to be with stuff.
That's exactly how it's going to work with him.
Yeah.
I was just like, I was like, oh, we're pretty far from together because, like, I'm not sure I'll ever see you again.
Because you live in another state.
And also, Queens, like, bye, bye.
But he just, he like kept coming around and I was like, listen, I actually told him this.
He'll be so mad.
Okay.
I told him this.
I was like, listen, you're really helpful because I have to go on dates with, like, real guys.
So, like, if you can come over afterwards.
Yeah.
I was like, you can come over afterwards.
And, like, that will keep it, like, on the straight and narrow for, like, real guys I'm dating.
He was like, oh, all right.
Like, he just, like, he just, like, stuck with me.
He wore you down.
He did.
And then suddenly, like, I was in therapy, obviously.
And I'm looking at my therapy, and I had that clueless moment where she's like, I love Josh.
Like, the, like, the fountains came on.
And I was like, oh, my God, he has everything I want.
Every time I feel, I want comforting.
Every time I want to, like, watch TV.
I want him at my house, like, during the blizzard.
I had that moment.
It was literally happened.
And it was like a lightning bolt where I was like, I'm not dating this guy.
My friends are like, you're dating though.
So you guys are always together.
I'm like, we're not dating.
I would never date him.
But you are.
And then overnight, all of a sudden I was like, wait, I wish he was here right now.
And then literally woke up the next morning.
It was like, I love Josh.
Like it really was like that.
Did you date him then?
Oh, yeah.
He's like, yeah, for years.
Oh, yeah.
How long have you guys been together?
A year and a half.
And when did you get engaged?
May of this year.
So we were together for a little over a year.
I think as you get older.
You're like, I know.
I think he knew night one.
Yeah, night one, he was like, all right, I'm in.
Like, let's, yeah, I'm only.
You were clearly a freak.
Like, who is he going to find that was going to do that stuff?
But also, like, P.S., who's better than me?
No one.
Thank you.
Same with us.
Yeah.
Like, I know what I got.
So is he kind of a ridiculous person, too?
No, yes, he is a ridiculous.
He's, like, in law school now.
Oh.
Which is so boring for anyone who's either in law school or lives with someone in law school.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I dated a lawyer.
Oh, my God.
It was the worst sex that I had.
Oh, no.
Really?
Did not enjoy blow jobs.
No enjoyment.
I would be in the middle of the blowjob and I would look up at him and he would just look like someone was doing something.
He's like reading an illegal brief.
Yeah.
I was like, you are depriving me in my greatest joy.
Like, can you just smile while I'm doing this?
I'm at work right now.
Like, just let me do the work.
It was so sad.
Raina's like, I'm going back to bartenders.
Fuck this.
Well, these are fun.
I appreciate your art.
You know?
Like, it's, yeah, I have an appreciative customer, so that is good for me.
Good.
But, yes, it's very funny.
But lawyer is boring as hell.
Yeah.
He's not boring at all, which is why I don't understand why he wants to go to law school,
but he is so excited.
He, like, loves the law.
Also, you have to know that I think he's, like, my special five-year-old,
and that, like, on first day of law school, I took pictures of him with, like, a backpack on.
And then I was like, I was like, okay.
Like make sure you like make new friends.
Be nice to everyone.
Like I, he's so cute with his like little law school uniform.
I love this.
And I just also, I like to send the message too.
And we do this all the time.
We talk about it constantly, like that it might not look like what you think it's going to look like how this guy walked in.
And you were like, oh, no, no, no.
Yeah.
You're not six feet.
Like whatever.
And you got to know him.
And now it's like you're going to be your husband.
Well, you know what else?
Single with three dogs is a real thing.
Like when you started talking to guys about dogs, like it was really interesting because I found like really crazy responses.
Like some guys were like, yeah, like I like to travel.
I don't know if I can like be with some of the dog.
Oh my God.
It was like really weird.
That's interesting.
People like didn't get the dogs.
Anyway.
Like it was a kid?
Yes.
Like you couldn't board the dog.
Yes.
Like it was really odd.
That is very odd to me.
I have every guy I've ever like dated even shown a picture of my dog and a date is like obsessed.
Yeah.
If I got a weird reaction, I think I'd be like, I'm out of care.
No, me, too, you don't get dogs.
You don't get it.
But that was another reason I loved, I loved my fiancé so much because he came in and he was instantly the dog's dad without any, like, he was just, those were his dogs.
Like, he was just cleaning out poop, like, just cleaning up pee, like, that was it.
He was like, I'll take him out.
That's, yeah, I had that.
I had that same situation.
Yeah, along with my kids.
It was really important.
And then he's got a blind-ass old dog that lives with us two named Sock.
Sock.
I rebranded her.
her real name was Bella, but like I just don't.
I was like, this is too basic.
Of course, you came up with a sock.
Yeah.
I was like, you can't have a dog name.
No, I was like Bella.
I'm not going to make fun of basic names.
But yeah.
No, but it was like too basic for me.
So I was like, you're sock.
Now you live with us.
But like also you have no redeeming qualities.
Sock was reborn.
Okay, so every week we play a game with our guests.
Are we really done?
I know.
I don't ever want to stop talking to you.
I don't do that.
Let's let's give like a takeaway.
If there's like a ultimate takeaway of girls,
that are like, I just feel like I'm not confident,
I'm not comfortable in my own skin.
Oh, let it go.
My biggest piece of advice for women is to let it go.
Who are you fighting against?
Are you healthy?
Do you feel good?
Are you taking care of your mind?
Are you taking care of yourself in a way that is nurturing?
Are you doing something you enjoy?
Those are the things to like run through your mind.
Like what I had for lunch, what I had for breakfast.
I don't look as good as her.
She's got this, I don't.
Like, that's not, that's going to leave you in a loop of unhappiness.
and the sooner you break that, the better.
Well, I think, too, I don't know if you like to work out or whatever.
Sometimes you just have to find that thing that you like, whether you like to box or you like to spin or like whatever these things.
Like that just makes you feel healthy and strong and beautiful no matter what.
So even it doesn't matter, I don't really work out to lose or maintain weight.
I'm working to like work through my own shit.
And I think that like I've heard women be like, I'm just intimidated.
I'm like, no one gives a shit.
Like if there's a girl that's judging you at boxing class, like fuck her.
She hates herself.
No one's looking at you.
Go do yoga in a dark room.
No one cares like you think they do.
And I also want to say though, too, and I want to people obviously need to check out your Instagram and your blog.
Like dressing for your body, I think is like so important.
Well, I'm obsessed with what you do the side to side things.
Super size of the look.
So for people that don't follow your Instagram, we're going to plug everything.
Yeah, thank you.
For people that don't, you do side to side with models and you like recreate their looks.
It's amazing.
Because people probably look at their outfits.
or like, I could never wear that.
And you're like, yeah, you can.
That's my whole thing is, yes, you can.
Like, you want to get involved in this trend.
Go for it.
Also, flattering.
Flattering is an interesting term because I wear a lot of quote-unquote unflattering things that I love.
Like, the dress I'm wearing right now is basically a sheet.
But, like, I love it.
And it's 90 degrees outside.
It's 90 degrees outside.
It's a look.
So it's not always about, like, what's the most flattering?
But, like, what makes you happy?
What?
Like, what print do you love?
But you also have, like, a fly bag, you great earrings.
You've got a look on.
You didn't just, like, throw a sheet on your body.
You, like, made a look.
But I've got size two, size four friends who would never wear this dress because they'd be like, I think I look fat in it.
And so that's...
Too flowy.
Yeah, it's too flowy.
I need to show shape.
It's a tent.
I can't do this.
And also, since we just mentioned the heat, Katie brought us all the stuff from Megababe, which is your company.
That's all the anti-chafeing.
Yep.
I've got an.
anti-chafe stick.
The wipes.
I've already like open them up.
I'm like wiping myself down.
The smell is amazing.
The smell is amazing.
Love is beautiful.
Anything coconut.
So we'll mention that again at the end.
But like I just,
I love this because we need it.
We're like hot and sweaty.
Yeah.
And it's not even about being sexy.
It's about just feeling comfortable.
Like I'm sweating and I feel uncomfortable.
Good chaf stick is is something that like I, I know women who haven't
worn dresses or skirts in years who are now back in them because of the chafe stick,
which is awesome.
It's not bad.
Katie took one look.
at me when she walked into the tenure.
I was like, I'll get some stuff for your boobs.
Boob sweat?
Yeah, it's a bus stuff.
Definitely, definitely boobs sweat.
Are there four products?
Is that one of that?
We've got four products.
We have a deodor right now that has over 12,000 people on the wait list.
Oh, my God.
Yes.
So that's why I couldn't bring any because I physically don't have any.
Jeez.
Okay, well, thank you for what you did bring us.
Yeah, well, it's like, let me get you some boobs sweat and then we can.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we'll put all this stuff in our Instagram, guys, so that you can find it.
You're opening your chafestick.
I just like to play with things.
Okay.
We're going to play a game.
Every week we play a game.
This is our new favorite game.
It's called Is it Weird?
We ask people to submit relationship, sex, and dating.
Is this weird email and DMs?
Guys, please keep sending them to us.
Subject line, is this weird?
Hello at Girls Got Eat Podcast.com.
We've pulled some really funny ones, and we're going to ask you to pitch in your...
We haven't played this with a guest yet.
Oh.
Oh, yeah, we haven't.
Yeah.
Okay.
Can I start?
I'm very excited about this.
Hey, ladies, avid listener.
My boyfriend of six months and I were having sex the other day with me on top.
And while he was sucking on my nipples, he stops, looks up at me, and says, I really wish that I was drinking your breast milk right now.
This is the second time he has said this.
I thought this was, I thought that the first time was sort of half of a joke and left.
it roll. So my question is, is this weird? What do I do? Should I be turned on or concerned?
It's a kink. I had to get a video of you just like covering your face.
Because I wanted to die when you said that. But but it's just I think everyone has like weird
kinks. And I'm going to take this as a compliment that he is like feel so comfortable with
you after six months that he can say this like weird kink to you. So it's weird.
Yeah, it's weird. But then also, I mean, I've heard weird fucking stories of like breastfeeding your boyfriend.
Yes. That's like, it's a total. I don't know if I do that. Don't you think there's like a mommy issue there too?
I don't know why things turn us on in our brains the way that they do. But we talk a lot about how like nothing is weird. If you're in like a safe space and you don't feel taking advantage of and this isn't the first date and somebody's asking to like do something horrible.
Yeah. There's nothing weird. No. But it does make their giggle.
Yeah, I mean, literally, I couldn't look even like that. But I'm just so curious. So I have to know like where this came from. So I'm literally thinking like, were you that kid that was like breastfeeding at eight years old?
No, I don't even think it's, I think it's, I think it's not even like that. I just think that there's like, it's the same stuff that when you're like, ooh, I really just got to, I got to do like a maintenance man.
Okay. I actually, I had a guy I used to sleep with a boyfriend. I don't know. I want to fuck a fireman. That's a little different than like I want to suck breast milk.
By the way, good luck.
Because I tried to get a fireman on my board for like a literal year and could not get one.
In Boston?
You don't understand.
I don't.
Don't you have to like go to Staten Island again?
My phone is everywhere.
I went to Staten Island.
I went to Boston.
I was in Queens.
Like I was all over and I had my phone is littered with insert Irish name fireman in my phone.
And they just would never meet up.
I think everyone thought I was like a.
Oh.
You should have set your house on fireman.
You did it all wrong.
Arson.
Sorry, Katie.
You don't know what you're doing.
Also, I'm looking at you.
I'm like, that's such a good idea.
No, she just stopped.
It was like, fuck.
It's like I waited a year of texting.
My chance.
He has an FDNY sweatshirt.
Like, it's fine.
You make him in a fireman.
But that's what I'm saying.
That's why it's not weird.
When you're engaged, you could always fuck a fireman.
Just make your fiancee dress up like a
fire, man. And let your house on fire?
You're like light a candle. A small fire.
Yeah, small fire. I'm burning sunflow. In the bathtub. But so I don't know.
Like, I guess, again, it's a king thing, but I'm like, how far does this go?
Like, is she pregnant with this guy's kid? And he's like, do you mind if I suck on the tit a little bit?
A lot of people have pregnancy fetishes.
He, like, totally is.
I'm not pregnant. Sorry, she has her kid and she's breastfeeding. And then he wants to get in on it.
I don't know. That feels weird, but, but also I can't judge you because if that's what you're into her.
Yeah. Right. I had a guy who I was dating a lot, like, like, like,
We were in love. He really liked to talk about impregnating me while we were fucking.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I have this one especially for you, Katie.
Okay.
Is this weird?
First off, I'm a huge fan.
We don't even all that.
We're amazing.
We know it.
Okay.
So I was dating this guy for a few weeks and he had an adorable dog.
Anyway, I go with him to the nearby park to walk the dog.
It is very clear.
The dog is about to poop.
She is assumed the position.
And what does this guy do?
He pulls out a bag.
Great.
He cleans up after his dog.
Super respectable.
No.
He fucking puts his hand in the bag and catches.
the poop as it's coming out of the dog's butt.
Yes, that's right.
He doesn't pick it up from the ground like a normal human.
He took it to a whole new level.
I would die if I'm just under Dewey's butt.
Like a catcher?
Like a catcher.
She calls him the poop catcher.
No.
That's weird.
That's weird.
I literally, up until like three months ago, I had five dogs in my house, I've never once
done that.
Thank you.
No.
I mean, again, it's not a deal breaker?
I don't know.
It's just fucking weird.
It's so weird.
Yeah.
Okay, I was going to cue up a different one, but now that we're on the subject of pets, I have another one.
Okay.
Okay.
I was hooking up with a guy about a year and a half ago.
Just after we'd finished having sex, he leans across me, grabs a hold of his goldfish bowl, and starts drinking the water out of it.
Sorry, gold.
Was there a fish in there?
I think the fish had died and he kept it there for decoration.
Anyway, I got out of there pretty quickly.
Okay, was he drunk?
And he was drunk.
Did he think it was a water bottle?
I feel like it was an old fishball that he uses as a cup, which is just, I'm going to assume he ran through the dishwasher and that we're having a misunderstanding.
But he has a fishbowl next to his bed?
But maybe.
You know, like you go to a bar and get a fish bowl?
Yeah.
Maybe he wants to feel like he's in New Orleans or something.
This feels like a, yeah, this feels like a misunderstanding.
Yeah.
But like your dad dog has like, it's bad next to your bed and you like take a nap in it afterwards.
But that's a totally different thing.
This is just like I kept the fish bowl.
It's cool looking.
Maybe he just likes to be well hydrated.
Like, okay, I like to eat cereal out of one of those giant mixing bowls because I like a big serving size.
So maybe he likes a big serving size of water.
What if he has like a fish bowl fetish?
Like they go out for like, she's like, let's grab some wine.
And he's like, can I get like?
You guys have any fish bowls here?
I put some hurricanes in it.
Okay.
All right.
I have one.
This one's from a guy.
Okay.
So I'm currently seeing this girl who is really great.
I feel like that's guy speak for like I really like this chick.
Okay.
But there's one thing I'm on the fence about.
What?
She likes watching videos about popping zits or cysts.
Oh, my God.
I love it too.
Right.
Okay.
Oh, is he asking?
Is this weird?
She says it's 100% non-sexual and totally just because they're cathartic to watch,
but I'm not convinced.
I know a lot of people are into that.
Okay, first of all, sir, I'm into that.
I love watching it.
Dr. Pimple Popper.
I also, guess what, I'm going to one you up.
I'm going to one up this whole thing so you can think she's normal and I'm weird.
Oh, perfect.
I make, I will pop my fiancés on his back and make him videotape it with his hand around so that I can watch it later.
Okay, so tons of people love to pop their partners like Zitz and things.
Do you like watch the videos?
later and masturbate to them.
No, it's not sexual at all.
It's just like, it's like, ooh.
Like, I usually love to, like, watch it come out.
Like, I hate it.
No.
It makes me want to, but it's a thing.
I know it's fully a thing.
I've never felt more alone.
Yeah.
No, no, it's, it's a whole thing.
That's that guy, that famous doctor, right?
Dr. Pimble Popper.
Right.
She's an Asian lady.
Oh, she's a she.
Yeah.
Okay.
So not weird at all.
Okay.
Yeah, not weird.
I don't think so.
So you really like her.
And now, and later you'll just laugh about it because, like, you didn't know about it.
she's going to definitely want to pop his.
I think he's in for that.
So I would just get ready for that.
Yeah, but also just loosen up.
Right.
A lot of people are into this.
I have a real brain buster for you guys that I'm excited about.
I love this topic.
What?
Okay.
I love it.
I've done a lot of research about it.
What is it?
It happened to me with somebody.
Okay.
Now I've hyped it so hard.
This is so anal.
What is it?
Okay.
I have a question for you girls.
I looked at my boyfriend's search history in hopes of seeing what kind of porn he watches
out of curiosity and expecting to see something completely different than what I saw.
Of all the porn that he watches, he watches porn of trans women.
Do you think this means he is gay or questioning being gay?
I mean, to each their own, it just raised some questions, and I was curious about your opinion.
Is this weird?
Yes.
Transwomen means men as women.
Born as a man.
Yes.
Right.
The room's quiet.
I have, I did some research.
Okay, so wait, so wait, now you did some research, so I want to know about it because my gut says, sorry, I'm moving so much, my gut says, yes, it's weird, but what does your research say?
So I dated this guy briefly who had all these, like, different sexual fetishes, and he was always, like, pushing me to, like, be more outside of the box and stuff, and I'm just, I'm pretty boring.
Okay.
I am, I'm just, I don't need to, like, twist my body up in a pretzel to come.
I just, like, I just want to, like, regular sex.
I just want to love me.
Hit it from behind, pull my hair, call me, fly.
I just need somebody to tell me how hot I am.
That's all I want.
Like, nobody's writing.
It's this weird e-mels about me because I don't have any of that weird stuff.
Like, I'm just not that creative.
Whatever.
Okay.
So he was like, you know, what kind of fetishes do you have?
And I was like, I don't know.
What kind of fetishes do you have?
And he said he really was into like trainy porn.
And this was like maybe three years ago and I was like really shook by this.
Because I don't really watch porn.
I'm not like in that world that much.
So I Googled it just like trying to figure out what is wrong with this person.
It is one of the top three searches for porn on the internet.
Like, it is a very, very popular category for straight males.
I don't know.
Are we saying straight, in quotes?
Yeah, I mean, it said that it didn't necessarily mean you were gay, and I will just throw
something back out at you.
I really like lesbian porn.
Yes, so do I watch it all the time.
And I do not have any desire to be with a woman.
All right.
Yeah, that's a whole other topic there, like gender roles and all that kind of stuff.
But lesbian porn is different.
What will be comparable?
It would be watching.
Okay, here's the thing.
I want to watch lesbian porn, but I don't want to watch trans men porn.
Like, gay male porn?
No, trans men.
Like trans men porn.
Like born a woman, transition into a man with this guy's watching.
Yeah.
But opposite.
But like a man with a vat.
So I am not turned on by women that were born as women and transitioned into men.
That doesn't turn me on in the least.
Right.
But it's a separate fetish in gay porn.
If he's gay, you'd watch gay porn.
Right?
Like, it's a separate fetish.
And I don't think it necessarily makes him gay.
Is it, okay, is it, well, obviously not.
Is it, is the appeal that you have, I don't know.
I don't either.
I don't know what the appeal is.
I can't, I can't, I don't under you.
Brainbuster.
Oh my God, you did.
You just broke my brain.
I stutter.
The whole thing.
Do you watch Westworld?
I'm on a loop.
Is that what you're going to say?
No, it's like when all of the robots realized they were robots and they're all just like
freak it out.
Like that's what just happened all of us.
Yeah, season one.
But bottom line, it's a huge search thing.
It's a very popular search tour.
It doesn't necessarily make you gay.
Just like me watching lesbian porn does not make me gay.
So interesting.
Yes.
And we are dying to have a porn star on the show.
We really, really, really want to have an episode about porn.
So if you know a porn star...
We literally ask all over guests.
If you know a good porn star, let us let us know.
Yeah.
Have you reached out to any?
No.
No.
We don't know what to do.
We don't know what to do.
You're like, you're like...
You're like, you're literally like, we need one.
We want one so bad.
If you tried to find him...
No.
No.
If you could do our job for us, that'd be couldn't.
This show is like the seat of our pants.
Like, nobody ever says no to coming on the show.
So we don't have to plan that far out.
We're just like, what do you want to do tomorrow?
Yeah.
We'll just email somebody.
Yeah.
Get a point.
I don't think it would be that hard to get a porn star on here.
We just want to find, like, a good one.
I don't know what that even means.
What does that mean?
Well, known porn star.
That's what I'm like, somebody that's established in their industry.
Okay.
Well, thanks for playing.
I don't want to leave.
I know.
Did you like the game?
I loved the game.
The trans porn thing will be rattling around my brain for hours.
Yeah, it's a real brain.
And like, the game.
the one from at this point it will have been last week.
It was the funniest one that's happened.
This girl's boyfriend had bunions and he was like,
do you mind if I put on my bunion correctors?
I feel really comfortable with you.
She said they were like hoobs and he was clacking around in the hardwoods.
Like he was like wearing hubs.
She's like, I can't deal with it.
My vagina dried up.
I can't fuck the guy wearing his bunion correctors.
The way she said it, I was like, it's not even.
And the rain is like put socks on him.
I'm like, I think they're too big.
Like I can't picture.
I've been meaning to Google Bunyan Correctors.
All right.
That's, we're done here.
You can leave it now.
It's fine.
Okay.
Katie, plug all your stuff.
Where can we find you?
Buy your things.
You guys can find me at the 12-ish style on Instagram.
You can find the thigh chaf stick and the boob sweats spray, the deodorant,
the vajwipes, all at megabababoboity.com or megabababob on Instagram.
And then are you still blogging?
Are you more just transitioned to Instagram?
No, I blog.
Okay.
So still the blog.
12ish style.com.
Yeah.
Perfect.
Yeah.
Yay.
Thank you so much.
All right, guys.
We will put this all on our Instagram also for you.
Keep following us.
It Girl's Gotta Eat Podcast.
Keep putting us in our years stories.
We love it.
Tell all your friends about us.
Review us.
Did I forget stuff?
Oh, we're on Twitter.
We have a merchandise line.
That is so amazing.
Keep buying your stuff.
Send us pictures of yourselves in the stuff when you have it.
Yes.
Girls Gotta Eat Podcast.
Shop.
That's it.
All right.
guys, have a good week.
Bye.
All right, I'm going to do like a quick Instagram story and be like, oh, my gosh, you can.
You guys, I had so much.
This is the most one I've ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever had a podcast.
You had?
Really?
Yeah.
Yes.
All right, we're going to leave that in.
We're not cutting this out.
Yeah.
