Girls Gotta Eat - When You Know, You Know feat. Eden Grinshpan

Episode Date: April 22, 2019

How do you know when you meet the right person? We're chatting with ultimate girl crush Eden Grinshpan (restaurateur and host of Top Chef Canada) about getting engaged within weeks of meeting her husband and how they're still killing it (with a kid) six years later. We also discuss the illusion of perfection on social media, the best country to meet men, nightmare dates, and the secret to "having it all." And lastly, we play a game of Psycho or Power Move and dissect some confusing (but not surprising) male behavior. Enjoy! Follow Eden on Instagram @EdenEats and check her out on Top Chef on Food Network Canada. Follow us @GirlsGottaEatPodcast and check our website for tour dates. Thank you to our partners for this episode. Betabrand: Go to betabrand.com/gge to get 20% of your Dress Pant Yoga Pants. Living Proof: Get a free sample of dry shampoo with your purchase at LivingProof.com/gge + promo code GGE. Zola: To start your free wedding website and also get $50 off your registry, go to zola.com/gge. HelloFresh: Get $80 off your first month by going to hellofresh.com/gge80 + use code GGE80. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

He talked to me from his butt. No. And I remember, I remember, like, in my, like, drunken state being like, this is the man I'm going to marry. Absolutely. Welcome back to another episode of Girls Got to Eat. We're back. We're back. We are literally back from Philly.

We said that. Today. Back to Philly. It's got a great episode for you guys today. Our friend eating Grinchben is in the studio with us. She is a food TV host, chef, all around, awesome person. We're talking about when you know, you know. And among other things, she is one of those people that is smart and successful and beautiful and funny,

which is so unfair and found the love of her life and has this beautiful child. Like, it's just, come on, man. And you're like, I want a hate her. And you're like, oh my gosh, she's so nice. It's so lovely. It's not fair at all. And she's got these like funny sisters. They're like the Kardashians, but like the funny version. But the brain. Yeah. Yeah. You can be beautiful and successful, but not funny. Not funny and smart and all the other. Anyways, so we have a great episode with her today. We'll catch up on our life a little bit. We got back from Philadelphia.

I got back late last night. Ashley got back this morning. We had three live shows at the punchline. Really phenomenal. If you came to those shows, thank you so much. Yeah, it was awesome. Those were like, well, a couple things. Let's tie some stuff in.

Last time we were in Philly together, we saw Beyonce. Today, Beyonce's documentary comes out, and it's called Homecoming, and I just have my homecoming shows in Philly. Wow. Call me, Beyonce. Full circle.

I know. No, no, I'm just very excited. I want to wrap this up as soon as possible so I can watch the documentary. As soon as I got here, I was like, how soon can you later? I'm like, happy Bay Day, happy Bay Day. Philly was awesome. All my family and friends came. Yeah, I don't really know what's to say besides amazing three nights.

We lived at the punchline and the show, the fans are so savage. They brought us gifts. They bought us Gritty gifts. He didn't come. It's fine. I guess we're broken up now. It's fine. It's fine.

We've got other mascots and other cities. You know what, Gritty? Fine. But we'll get other mascots in other cities. Fuck you. And just a shout out to Andrew Collin who came down just to do our third show with us and just be with us and we love him so much. Yeah.

Just so great. We're like, you just want to come hang and be a special guest and let me gyrate on you on stage. Yeah, you guys are always doing some freaky stuff on stage. Yeah, it's nice. It's nice. It's all right. And I just want to shout out something from last week.

we did our wedding episode and we were like we felt like we were going to get some negative feedback just because it's such a touchy topic and we had some very strong opinions and not a one. Everybody was so on board and you guys send us the nicest messages. I can't thank you enough for all the nice messages you send all the time and inviting us to your weddings. I'm going to cry. I can't let you even cry yet. It's not.

Look, that's like your most special day. You really genuinely invite us. Like we got invitations. It wasn't like, come to my wedding. Ha, ha, ha. It was like, we would like you to be there. And I'm like, not okay. So just, we love you guys so much.

We got such the best, we got such good feedback from brides, bridesmaids, you know, former bridesmaids, wedding planners, wedding photographers. Like, I'm just, I'm glad we did that topic justice. And the feedback you guys gave was really so encouraging and the wedding invites. Thank you for all your stories also. And as always, you know, got a lot of feedback with the money episode as well. And you guys buying his book. And so, yeah, I mean, just keep being fucking awesome.

Yeah, people sent like their, that was fun to read. people sent personal stories, some really, like, terrible stories, really happy stories. Like, I was like, I know we're going to get flooded with like wedding engagement stories and, like, didn't mind at all. Like, love you guys sharing that kind of stuff with us. And just, thanks again. We love you guys so much. I'm just in like an emotional space with, with our listeners and how great they are.

And I don't know. We still don't know what to call you guys. Someone said snacks, which I like. If, yeah, you guys should just submit what we should call you. We joked. We joked. It's really calling you guys crack heads, but it was because it was kind of a joke. It was an side joke.

Snack. kids looking like a snack head i don't know like that snack you're doing your laugh right it does this laugh sometimes it's not even fake but it's like this very like she it's she pauses she hears a joke that she likes and she takes a beat and then goes funny you learn a lot about yourself when you record yourself continuously like that you don't know any words what they mean anyway thank you snack heads so much for also for coming to the stupid live shows okay really quickly, guys. Yes, we forgot to even say the Philly shows were especially stupid. All the fans

extremely stupid. And so you guys are so stupid. Thanks for coming to our stupid live shows. Also, we're announcing new shows coming soon, but you can still get tickets to the ones that still have tickets left at stupid live shows.com. A friend of mine named Brandon, he sent me, goes, I made something for you. And it was stupid live shows.com. And he obviously redirected it to our actual live show page.

So we're not kidding that you can go to stupid liveshows.com and get our tour dates. So thank you to the person who wrote the review about the stupid live shows. You've changed our lives. We own the URL now, Stupid Liveshows.com. Anyway. Anyway, we'll tell you guys a little anecdote about what happened this week and then we'll get into the show. Yeah. I had a little...

What we called what happened? I don't know. We'll just tell you. What should we call it? It's not a situation. business as usual. Men just being men. I had one of those this week.

Men being men. That's it. That's it. Men being boys. That's what we had. Boys being boys. Ew. All right.

Boys being boys. So I had a little situation with this guy. So I ran, it was a guy who had gone out with about a year ago. We just like, we'll tell, people might remember. Oh, yeah.

It was the guy that I wanted like this like all night long, horrible, all, we'd have all the horrible spots in New York City. Worst of NYC tour. libation, the DL, just one horrible nightlife spot after the next. She's like really not my vibe. We had like a good makeout session. I wasn't really, I don't think either us was like super into each other.

So that was just it. So anyways, I ran into him on Thursday night at this thing. We end up just sort of like talking to each other. Everybody leaves. We end up by ourselves. We went to the next bar and the next bar. And we had a nice time. I don't know.

He's like very flirty, touchy, whatever. I don't know that I was really like, whatever. Yeah. It was like nice. It was always nice to go and flirt with like a cute.

boy, it doesn't mean you like them to date them or whatever. Yeah. He's very good looking. And I mean, he's cute. Yeah, he's very good looking. Yeah, sorry. And so he sent me a nice text after we left. He said, you know, he had to go meet a friend and he said, like, you know,

company here is not as good as yours or something cheesy like that. Oh, yeah. He did send you out like, so cheesy. Whatever. It was nice. No, but as in like he was interested. Yeah. He sent you like a follow-up text.

Yeah. Yeah. And I just said like thoughts and prayers or something like that. And I was having a party at my house on Friday night with like all my friends. And so I told him he could come by if he wanted to. He should come. And so he did.

He came. First person there. After me and Meryl. Like he was on it. Yeah. I said party starts at seven. First person, like literally.

Yeah. Besides us. When we were like your friends set up setting up. Yep. Came by by himself. Brought a tequila. Yes. Brought gifts.

Yes. Ashley was like, oh, Ashley's talking about this guy. I'm like, you should talk to her about it. They had like a whole bowl. voice session. Yeah, I had some

confusing behavior with this guy. We were talking about it and he was like giving me advice and I was like, I love this dude and he is so cute and he came there alone. He brought you a gift. I was like, he was just really like, you know, being flirty and cute and I was like, man, Raina, like, why don't you like this guy? Because she kept being like,

this guy's coming by, we don't have last night. I'm not really into it. I'm like, why though? I, from what I knew of him, I kind of thought maybe I wouldn't like his vibe. I kind of thought he would be a little dushy and I was not the case. I really enjoyed him. He was wonderful, but you know how wrong I am. I adored him. And so I was like, kept telling Rayna, like, I'm really into this guy for you.

I like him. And she was like, I don't know. I just not, I don't, it's just not, I don't know how to explain it, but it's not like that. And I was like, but it will be. It's not that, I don't know, whatever, you spark with who you spark with, right? So I just was like, I don't know, maybe. But he stayed the whole night, like, hung out all my friends. I mean, he knows a bunch of my friends.

So it's not like he hung out with a bunch of strangers. But yeah, he hung out and he was talking to Jeremy all night and hanging out with our friends. and being like really flirty and cute. Yes. So towards the end of the night, it's like winding down. We go into my kitchen. We're like making out.

And I'm like up against a wall like making out at them. And it's so cute. And we walk out of the kitchen. And other multiple rooms. You said you made out in a few rooms in your apartment. What a house warming. You said you made out in the kitchen, the bathroom and your bedroom.

Wow. I really christened this apartment. I just want people to. No, this wasn't like a quick kiss in the kitchen. Like, you guys were having a makeout session. Yeah. You and this dude. Yeah, it was great.

After he stayed at my party all night and hung out all my friends. And brought a gifts and was like refilling people's drinks. Like he's a fucking significant other. Like, which we know I am. He was trying to play my role. Actually, he was opening the door for people like, welcome to our home. Welcome to our home. We're so happy to have you here.

We're so glad you could join us. I don't even that I can say the words about what happened next. It's so embarrassing. Yeah. I think you need to say the words. So they're hanging out and you did tell me, only me. you didn't announce it to anybody, but you were gone for a while. When you came back, you were like, oh, yeah, we were just making out.

And I'm like, nice, nice. I was like, yes, I win for me because I like support this. Yes, it's happening. And everybody's standing hanging around. I'm sitting on the couch. And all of a sudden I hear him go, oh, Ashley, can you help me with my dating apps? Like help me get more dates with my Bumble and my hinge. And I was like, what?

And I just figured you guys had been talking about it. You know what I mean? Like it came out of nowhere. I knew you had just made out. So I was like, oh, they must be talking about funny dating app stuff. This is an interesting take for Raina to just bring this up. So I took his phone and then caught the look in your eye. You looked shocked.

I was also drunk. So I was like, I definitely like misunderstood what he just said to her. And I just was like, I do not understand what's going on here. Definitely caught Raina's eye. It wasn't some joke between them. She looked like just confused. And I was like, this is so weird. And I'm not going to play into this.

and I, he randomly had like the ham horn app on his phone. So I just was like, oh yeah, I'll fix your day naps. And then I was like, bar, bra, bra, and then like handed it back to him and was just like, fuck you, dude, what are you doing? Like he was like, what kind of picture should I use? I thought it was so awkward. It was everything stopped. Like, everybody kind of like, he's announced it. Like in the middle of this crowd of people, he's like, Ashley, basically help me get more dates after I just made out with your friend in her home.

What? That I came through. I brought a gift to. What are you doing? What? I could have, I was so shocked by it. You know when you're just drunk and you're like not sure like really what's happening? I'm blacked out, but I'm like, I definitely misunderstood what is happening right here.

You didn't. Nope. It was very strange. So that's why I wasn't in him, guys. I just felt the premonition that he was going to do for the same thing. You know. You always know when you know, you know. But then when he left, so he left, we were like, finally all the boys are gone.

It was just the girls left. You know, show she's dancing. It was the whole thing. But someone said that was weird, right? They did not know you guys made out. did not know anything of you guys flirting, making out someone, one of our girlfriends was like, that was a little awkward, wasn't it? And I was like, even more awkward that they had just made out minutes prior. And everyone was like, oh, minutes prior. All these girls are like, what the

actual fuck? Minutes prior. And like, I'm trying to like rack my brain. Like, he, did you think he was being funny? I don't think that he was being funny. It was so weird. I don't know. Maybe he's just like, I know that she's not into me. Whatever, we made out, we're drunk. It's late at night. But at least, like, wait until you leave the premises to start, like, dating other people. Disrespectful. It's so crazy. And like I just, I'm also a really good kisser.

I'm an amazing maker outer. I believe that with those lips. And the night before, he was like, man, that makeout session we had was so great. Like, you're such a good kisser. I was like, yeah, I gotta go. Yeah. And here's the deal. If he picked up on a vibe that you weren't into it, but he was like, you know what?

I'm still going to pursue her. Like, I think she'll, you know, he'll try to wear you down a little bit. Like, then I get it. But then what was the thing with the dating apps? It's so bizarre that he initiated a makeout with you. He was acting like so flirty the whole night fucking showing up first by himself bringing gifts.

And then he's like, yeah, just want to remind you that I am single and looking. That is like it's so wild. So, get out of here. Like you couldn't even just,

just leave the premises. Yeah. Like if we just made out 20 feet from where I'm standing, maybe don't ask my best friend for dating advice in front of my face. And we were like, get out of here.

And then I woke up and I had a DM from him at 6 a. He was like, hey friend, just saying hi. I'm like, what are you doing? He texted her before he texted me. Seriously, I didn't hear from him until like noon. Whatever. At least you brought tequila.

Shut up, dude. I just like, I love to send the message that like people do this. You shouldn't take it personal. That's their fucking baggage. I didn't do anything wrong. Yeah. Like, all I did was open up my home to somebody that I thought was like cool and fun to hang out with. I mean, now I'm going to roast him.

But like, you know, I wouldn't have talked about this otherwise. Yes, exactly. I mean, I hate to say this guys, but like I hook up and date. guys, I don't talk about any of them on the podcast. It's like, if something is sacred to me in private, that's how it is. But like, until they do this shit. So like, it's, I mean, I just want to put out the message like, guys just do this stuff. Don't take a personal.

Somebody does something so agree. Just like that. Like, I'm sorry, you didn't do anything wrong. You did not do anything to earn that. You just offered up your great lips for him to make out with. Best part of my body. In your home. Literally best part of my body.

In my beautiful home. Anyway. Ashley was like, we should talk about this day and I was like, it makes me sound like such a loser. And then it, you're like, fuck it. It doesn't make you sound like a loser. It doesn't make you sound like a loser. Oh, like that is just a dumb thing. Who knows what that guy did that and who cares?

Right. I mean, I love at that point also. My mom has said this to me my whole life. Like, who cares why somebody did what they did? Like, you just need to understand how you're going to move on from it, how you attracted this into your life, et cetera, et cetera. So, like, I don't know, I self-reflect, I feel pretty much, pretty fine. Because that is, like, women obviously do this thing.

I think we talked about this a lot on the episode titled, I regret nothing. where women do this thing of like, what did I do in this window of time when he changed his behavior? Nothing! You did nothing. You guys made out. And then 10 minutes later, like, nothing happened. There was absolutely nothing that happened. Sometimes you do something, but this time I didn't happen. No, usually you don't. It's, fuck them. Ask my best friend for dating advice in my home at my housewarming party. I was so, yeah, at a loss. I wish I would have lit him up more, but I was confused. Well, you thought it was a joke too. Who would think that was serious? Anyway. All right. Well, let's talk about a good.

couple. All right. Today in the house studio with us and Dewey, I am really excited. This is someone I've been friends with for a long time, somebody I've wanted on the show for a long time. She's so amazing. She is a food TV host, most recently of Top Chef Canada for the last three years. She is also the executive chef and owner of one of our favorite restaurants,

Des in New York City. You didn't bring any food. It's fine. Actually. I'm, now I was actually, you just brought that up and it's weird that I didn't even think about that before, but I should have totally brought at least some cookies. Okay. What kind of a person is your show?

Are you? Well, now I know that you have that meatball thing. She has a meatball thing. I'll bring you the meatballs. I hope people bring us meatballs to shows now. Anyway, she is, she's Canadian, she's part Israeli. She's married. She's a mom.

She's all the things. That's one of her credits. Married with she's accomplished. She's accomplished so much. in her short life. That's the only one that matters. Please welcome to the house studio eating Grinchpin. Did I say it right?

Yes, you did. I was talking about this. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Thanks for being here. We're so glad to have you. We've been talking about you having you on since day one. Oh, guys.

Yeah. Thank you. Well, I've been watching your journey and I am so excited for both of you because you're really doing it. And you're doing like something really cool for a lot of people. Thank you. I've been watching your journey for a long time. You're like one of those people.

I'm like, she really has it all. She's like the career, the whole great life. I love your husband so much. And we're going to talk about how you guys met today. He's so great. Well, it's a pretty crazy story. But first of all, thank you. Honestly, I don't, like, I do feel very, very lucky.

I have an amazing husband. And I am doing something that I've been working really hard towards that I do every day. So I do feel hashtag blessed. Tell us just a little bit more of really what you're doing day to day. I mean, are you kind of all over the place? You film? I am all over the place. I'm a hot fucking mess. That's what I am. I feel like every time anyone calls me, I'm like, oh my God, I've been running around this city. I feel like a headless chicken. Like, actually, like I feel like I run around like crazy because I have Dez. I'm the co-founder and Samantha Wasser is the other co-founder. Which is just really quick. It's in Olita, right? It's in Olita. It's on Marbury between Prince and Spring. And it's a fast, casual, Middle Eastern restaurant. I'm half Israeli.

Yep. So, you know, it's just food that I was cooking. for my friends and family at home that I get to now serve to the people of New York City, which is pretty epic. We're pretty excited about us. I will put the Moroccan lamb meatballs. Done. I will bring you. And the colfower and the carrots and the beet hummus.

Stop. You'll take me. I feel awful already. They have it on caviar. I will send you meatballs. I will personally bring you the meatballs. I will do that. Like balls.

This feels like your PR person's fault. Yeah. So I was texting with her this morning. Her name's Carly. And she didn't offer us. Dude, I feel like this is her fault. That's so weird. I don't even know why we didn't even think about it.

I think it's because it's an off hour. Listen, guys, it's 4 p.m. You're right. If this was more like lunchy, I'd be like, I'm bringing lunch. Or fire, Carly. Or that. Carly, you have screwed this one up. Meatballs have no time of day.

I know. That's true. That's true, actually. That's something that we're trying to sell it does. You can eat balls any time of the day. Thank you. So you guys need just a specific meatball spokesperson person that I'm your girl. Well, you know what? I, thank you. Because I think that is something that

could come up in the future. And I'll always have this in mind. I'll, you know, I'll ask you to come in. I'm pitching myself. It's interesting to me that you own a restaurant and you're there and you cook and you have this like New York City really cool restaurant. But you're also the host of like a really huge incredible show. Yeah. So I'm, I'm Canadian and I get to host Top Chef Canada, which is such a like a surreal experience. I've been a fan of Top Chef for years. So when they called me to come in and audition, I was like, why do you want me to come in an audition?

And I auditioned. And then they were like, you got the part. And I'm like, Eden Grinchpan. Are you sure like you're talking to the right person here? And they were like, yeah, it's hilarious because I'm so not a Potama Lakshmi. Like she is Padama. Padma. Okay.

Padama. Padama. Have you ever met Padama? No, no. And I know what you said. It just sounded like one really long word I didn't know, but Padama Lakshmi is like this, like she walks into a room and it's like this statuesque, like she's so regal. She's like six foot seven.

She's so tall. She's like tall. She's like, she's like glowing. She glows. And I was like, I hope that I can radiate like. And then I walk in and, you know, it's definitely a different vibe. But you know what? It's been a really, it's been honestly like a dream.

come true job. And like the third, the seventh season, it's the third season that I've hosted, actually premieres April 1st, 10 p.m. Eastern on Food Network Canada. Okay. So I hope everyone in Canada tunes in. So it's on now. Where my Canadians at? Yes. We love Canada. And yeah, it's fun. You know, I get to learn about the culinary scene in Canada. I get to meet all of these really incredibly talented chefs and all these new up and coming chefs. And we eat a lot of really good food. What do you do with your daughter? My daughter. Okay.

So the first season I ever shot with them. What do you do with your daughter? Let me tell you what I do with her. So the first season I shot, I was early days pregnant. So they were like, we were hiding the bump, like the really small bump. Then the second season we shot together. I was a new mom and I was like pumping everywhere. And I was not sleeping.

Like you watched that season and I got bags. Like I look tired. But I had a, you know, we hired a nanny. So she was with her while I was pumping. and then the last season we did. But you brought her? Of course. Okay.

You bring her to Canada. Okay. I bring her to Canada with me and my husband comes in visits on the weekends. Gotcha. Okay. That's what I was curious. Is it just like,

like I didn't know if it was just like single dad in the city. Oh, no, no. Can you imagine? Can you imagine? You know what? If any dad could do it, it would be Edo. Oh, I love that you say that about him. He's fierce.

Like he, my, I always say I feel like my husband has more maternal instincts than I do. And I stick to that. I stick to that. Maybe it's. his Mediterranean roots just makes him like a little more like family oriented

than like some shitty American. I actually sorry, sorry America. You really get that hard. Have you ever, have you only dated American men? You definitely haven't. I have fucked a bunch of Middle Eastern guys but not dated. All of my very serious relationships

are with like white American males. Yeah, that's what you need to like switch it up. I agree. I need to switch it up. I'm trying. How about you? Probably same. I mean, I've dated, got on dates, slept with guys that are not American, but relationship-wise now. I'm really out here trying. Yeah, no.

And especially moving here, like, when I lived in Atlanta for 10 years and I was like, where are the brown guys at? Like, I literally asked him one of my friends, like, one of my Indian friends, like, where can I find more of you? I mean, he's married and has a kid. He was like, not here, Ash. And I was like, okay. I mean, I get to New York and I'm like on the apps. I'm like so much diversity. I love it.

Yeah, I love that about New York. And actually Toronto's like that too. Toronto's like one of the most multicultural cities. So we're going to come to Toronto this summer. Ooh. We're going to say, okay. All right. But yeah, I guess we'll fuck in Toronto.

Well, also, I was going to say, so Israeli, to all of my single friends, I'm like, go to Israel. Okay. Because Israeli men love American women. Ooh. And Israeli men are all models. They're insanely hot. They are so hot. Oh, my God.

Go in like, I'm not. and I'm not even kidding you. Like, all of them, there's something super sexy about, like, the men in Israel. You don't have to convince me. They've all, they've all gone to, everyone has to go to the army there.

So they all grow up really fast. And they just, like, there's this confidence about them, and they all just casually have an eight pack, and they're all, like, like, sun-kissed, and they eat, like, chum-us, like, like, it's no big deal. And they want to treat you like a queen.

Like, they know how to treat women well. And you know why? Because Israeli women are tough as fuck. They are so tough. So men have to really work for them there. They really, really work for them. So, like, they are just like, this is built into them. They're like, women are tough.

We have to be good. We have to work for their, like, attention and their love. So then North American women come and they're like showing that same love. And North American women are like, I'll take that. Let's go. Yeah. Especially if you've been in New York, you're like, I'll take anything. Yeah.

I'll take. Just touch my arm once. Just text me back or something. Just be nice. I mean, I think that we should all move to Israel, apparently. Maybe do a show there? You know, we'll go for work. I would love to go.

You know, that guy that I was in Israel for like four minutes before I Instagram. We told the story like a year ago. Yeah. I went to Israel. I saw this guy on the beach. He was so beautiful. He was playing soccer. And I did an Instagram story of him.

And I was like, I would literally fuck everything in this country. And some girl knew him. No. Forwarded him the story. Stop. And he DMed me. He took me out on a date. Shut the hell up.

Yeah. And what was his name? His name was O'Lee. Did you hook up? We fucked all night. Was it hot? Wait, is this your way now of getting men? You just take a freaking video of them.

It works every time. And then they DM you and then you get laid. Yes. This is like a, this is a whole new, this is a whole new ball game. Like you are like, this is. This is the new. This is my new hinge. Yeah.

Her batting average is real high. Who needs J date when you can just spy on people on the street? He was, he was like, here's a couple places we can go to. He had an exact time. He had three places he picked that I might like. Were they all like different bedrooms? No, they were all really great bars. And then we went to his home where he did have three bedrooms.

Oh, nice. Two out of three. Ain't bad. So like, can you tell me, is there a difference that you see like Israeli lovemaking versus you have what I call love making? Because it's Rayna calls it love making. She says that our live shows and I just sit there like cringe, like crawl out of my skin.

But because did I just make you crawl out of your skin? No, I think it's like, welcome to the podcast. You made me just crawl out of my sister. For you, it's fine. It's right now because she's like, my sister. And I'm just like, stop saying lovemaking. It's just weird. Well, you make love to Israelis.

But no, you're right. Because they're soulful. I like that term. I want to, I want in general just be out here saying fucking less. So let's go with love making. Well, you make love to a shitty American. No, I think you make love to like Mediterranean men. You know what I mean?

That's including Italian. So like, like Greek, Italian. I don't know. It's like, you know what I mean. That kind of energy, like, for sure. They're like romantic. Like they look you in the eyes and they just want to like grind you. Yeah, big Mediterranean energy.

Next show in Israel. I like the sound of that. We were talking about Israeli guys, which brings us to talking about your Israeli husband. Yes. So you've been married. You had two-year-old daughter, Abe, and you've been married six years. We've been married for almost six years. Thank you for that.

We're welcome. I googled you before. I sometimes forget. That's crazy. Yeah, six years. That flew by. I met my husband almost, I guess, eight years ago then. And I, so this is like, I'm going to give you like the whole story.

Yes, we do. But first of all, he is Israeli, right? He's Israeli. And his name is Edo. Edo and Eden. It's really fucked up. No, it's weird. And in Hebrew, when we write our names together, they almost look the same.

It's really weird. Right. And I didn't even realize that's how you pronounce his name when I went out with him for the first time. Would you call him? Etto. Actually, I didn't even think about it. Eddie? I was just like, You don't have a name. No, I didn't. I just didn't think about it. I didn't. I wasn't like, oh, it's similar to mine. I was just like, oh, yeah, this guy, like, okay, friends, like, we'll hang out. But let me, I'll just tell you the story. So you'll understand. Do the story. I'm ready for it. I was dating this guy in New York for like two and a half years. Oh, okay. And, but like, I knew wasn't going to go anywhere. But he, he was. like a nice guy and I really loved like his friends and family. And so like when I broke up with him, it was something where I was, it was like, it was like, it wasn't like hard on me when we broke up. Yeah. Is that awful? No, no, no, no. No, but I think that when you love somebody's friends, like when you date somebody, you date like their community. And so it is tough to lose that. It was

harder for me to kind of break up with this guy. It was harder for me to break up with this community than was for me to break up with him. Is that awful? He was a nice person, but like it wasn't going to go anywhere. Yeah. And he even like kind of made it. seem like that was the situation. He never wanted to call me his girlfriend for like almost like eight months while we dated. I'm like, you call me your girlfriend. Anyways, it doesn't matter. So we broke up and I went to Israel. My parents were there and they were like, just come here. And like being Israel with all the people that mean something to you, like your closest family and friends. So I went there and like I was single in Israel and it was the best feeling ever. All of a sudden, like you know when

like you're single again and like you're putting out single vibes? And now, all of a sudden you're getting picked up again. Yeah. Because there's, I mean, not really, but I can imagine. No, you know what I mean. I know what I mean. I know what you mean. When I moved here, I feel like I was like putting that out hard.

And I was like, you're looking at everyone in the eye. And like your eyes and you're wearing like sexy clothes. And you're just like, I'm back, baby. So anyways, I was single. Open for business. Exactly. So I was single. I went out to, it was the last one I was there. I went out to this bar that my, one of my childhood friends was bartending at.

And we got hammered. Okay? We were just like totally hammered. And these two girls at the bar that I didn't know, but my friend knew was like, like, who are you? And I'm like literally doing like the Carlton. Like I was so drunk. I looked like, I fell off a stool that night. Like it wasn't like a cute sex thing.

So they were like, who are you? No, literally like you are you like question mark. Like this is concerning who are you? I'm like, I'm Eden. And they're like, where do you live? And I said New York and they're like, I think we have someone you have to meet. So they took out their phone And they went on...

Seeing you're like super wasted in dancing. They're like, I have a guy for you. Basically. So they took out their phone and they Facebook messaged Edo and thank God I like spelled my name right. Like that's how like drunk I was. That's how drunk you were.

Okay. And he added me the day after and he was in New York. Like he was already living in New York. Oh. So I flew back to New York like the day after that and we started talking on Facebook. And I was like, listen, I want to make new friends I want to meet cool new people. Like, I wasn't looking to date.

I was like, Israeli guy. I want to make some new Israeli friends. Yeah. So I wrote him. I'm like, let's hang out. So he's like, cool, let's meet here Friday night. Where was your first date? Marshall Stacks.

What's that? I don't know. It's a place. He picked it. Sounds great. Okay. He picked it. It's in the Lower East side.

Okay. I showed up early. I'm wearing like a kilt. Okay. I don't even know why I'm wearing a kilt. And like, it was one of those, it was like that time. wearing like vintage. Like all I wore was vintage and I wore like a vintage shirt and a vintage

kilt with like boots. So it like it was kind of like schoolgirl vibes. 90s. Yeah. Like you know me. I'm like so grungy like tomboy. You're always a phase. 90s phase. Yes. And it's never gone away. Right. No, it's back. Come out. I know. I know. Anyways, so I showed up early. I'm like already drinking. I think I'm on my like first or second glass of wine. Like I'm done. He shows up and like, I swear, and I'm not, I don't want to be this cheesy person, but I swear. Time stopped. Time stopped for me. I have a really crappy memory, but I remember the first time I saw I do, which is crazy. And he walked in and I was like, oh my God. Damn. Yeah. Because I saw my Facebook. I could see you saying it out loud too. I was like, I was like, pushing into my seat. No, I'm kidding.

I was like, hi. Like a creep. You're like, oh my God, I'm in a fucking kill. I know, I'm like kind of drunk. Basically, yes. Basically, yes. It was like one of those moments where I was like, oh, fuck. He's a lot cuter than I thought he was going to be.

Like, I saw his pictures, but it's, and he looked good, but like it didn't do him justice. So he walked in and I was like, and it's so funny because knowing Edo now, he's like, one of the most outgoing crazy people I know. And he was like sitting facing the bar, like really like quiet when he came in. So like obviously later on I found out he's like freaking out. Nervous. Oh my God.

Like this girl like is cute. Like I want to talk to her. Yeah. Anyways, long story short, we get hammered. Okay, why is our love based off of us getting hammered? We get hammered. He goes to the bathroom. I tell the bartender.

I'm on the best day of my life. I'm like texting my mom. I love this. You just have to tell somebody you're like the bartender. Oh, yeah. I'm like, Mom, I'm in love. Oh, my God, this guy. And then I go to the bathroom. She's like, that's the kilt talking. Yeah, I know. She's like, you're hammered again. Stop. And then he tells the bartender when I'm in the bathroom. I'm on the best day to my life. Wait, we invited the bartender to our engagement party on the road. Yes. We actually had it at Marshall Stacks. That's another story. Of course you did.

Anyways, so we closed the bar. We walked to my apartment. And we walk in, I live in a loft at this time. Lower East Side and I forgot that my older sister was sleeping over and my younger sister was in the front room and there are no doors. Just all these sisters. There's so many sisters. He's like, what is, he's like, what is, he's like, why do you have no doors in your apartment? There are no doors. Okay. Yeah. You forgot there was people there. I forgot. Family. So we go into the bathroom, which is the only room in the entire like loft that has a door. And we like just like ferociously make out for like an hour. And then at one point, he decided he wanted to show me how he can do a handstand.

Like this is where we're at right now. In the bathroom? Yes. So he's doing like a handstand. And then he turns around and he like, you know, in Ace Ventura when he talks from his butt? Yeah. Oh my God.

So he talked to me from his butt. No. And I remember, I remember like in my like drunken state being like, this is the man I'm going to marry. Absolutely. This is the man. And I'm going to marry. At that moment was he like, can I ask you a question?

I think that's what he says. Does he say? I can't remember everything. I don't remember what it was, but you're like, yes, I'll marry you. What's your name? Yes. I just remember. Sorry, I had, finish you.

I just remember. I was like, this were meant to be. Yeah. We're meant to be. Anyways, so he leaves. This is November 18th. Okay. I remember this.

Yeah. November 18th. He leaves at like four in the morning. I wake up. I get a call from him at 11. A call. Do you hear me? Yes.

A call. Crazy. You got, something's really got to be happening and you're going to call somebody. Yeah. So, and I'm like, hello.

And he's like, hey, what's up? And I'm like, not much. He's like, what are you doing for lunch? I'm like,

I'm busy. He's like, what are you doing for dinner? I'm like, I'm busy. And he's like, well, let me know when you're free

because I canceled all my plans. Like something like that. What were you, what were you thinking? Were you just kind of panicky? No, I was like, no, I was like, I'm so hungover. And like, whoa, last night was crazy last night.

It's like one of those like, you know, single wild nights. I know something special went down. I'm like, this guy's really cool. And my dinner plans actually fell through. And we ended up meeting up and we spent almost two weeks together like nonstop. Yeah. He like didn't go to work. Okay.

Oh my God. I'm like have chills. This is all I want in this world. That's it. We were just like drink whiskey. and like hang out and smoke cigarettes in bed. Like that was like our thing that time. Carrying and big.

Yeah. We were so carrying big except. But like in love. But in love. Exactly. Or Stephen Miranda love. But yes, exactly. And then he had a trip plan to Israel, honestly.

So we've been together for two weeks at this time. He had a trip to Israel. Wait, hold on. When did you sleep together? We slept together. Like we were, okay, so keep in mind. We were together like. every day.

We're not judging at all. No, no, no, no, no. No. Oh my God, not at all. I mean. I put on my Instagram story. No. Like day three,

day four. I think it was like day 10. Okay. Like we were like, I'm like, no, I'm going to be respectful. But it's like, date seven. Ten days is a lot. Yeah. We waited a full 10 days.

But you guys were together all the time. Like, it's a lot. But it was hot. The buildup was hot. Of course. Yeah. You guys had had like a relationship most people have in three months at this point. Yeah, yeah.

As far as time spent. Oh, no, no. He's like, like, I remember him, like, kind of saying to me, he's like, you know, we're getting married. And I'm like, yeah. And he kind of said that to me before he went to Israel. And I was like, oh, yeah, I know. And then he came back from Israel. And we went grocery shopping the day.

We got back, like, early in the morning, he insisted he wanted to make me Shukh, so Israeli. He's like, I'm making Shukkah. Yeah. So we go to the grocery store and he proposed to me in the grocery store. What the day? Like, he landed. He landed? What?

He landed at 5 in the morning. We went grocery shopping and I think he proposed to me at like 9.30. What aisle were you in? I was in front of the eggplant. Of course. Like vegetables. Would he have like a ring? He got the ring made during that week in Israel.

I know. It's crazy. And did you think this is so wild or you were like, finally? No, no, no, no, no. So you long it up. No, no, no, no, no. No, no. I was like, I was in complete shock.

I was, I had no, I was in complete shock. Like, I remember being like, like my jaw was on the floor. Yeah. Before I could say anything, a woman, this is so New York walks by. And she's like, oh my God. It's he proposing to you? And I'm like, and I didn't even like see the ring. I didn't see, like, the ring's out.

I don't see anything. I'm like, shocked. She's like, it's 9.30 in the morning. I know. And you're blocking the eggplant. I know. She's like, get out of the way. Get out of the way. So New York. It was honestly like, it was so funny. You're like, I don't even know yet. I'm blacked out. Yeah, I, I, it was probably the craziest. And then, like, after that, like, calling on my friends and telling them I was engaged, I all thought that I was still with my ex. That's how fast it happened. That is one of the most fascinating things when you're like, I'm engaged. And they're like, oh, right. To the person you've been dating. And they're like, no, no, someone else came along three weeks ago. Okay, so I have to know, did you say yes right away? Yes, I did.

You were just like, I don't know what's happening. In the grocery store. Yeah, I was like, oh, yes. Do you think he was going to do it later and he couldn't help, he couldn't, like, hold back anymore and he had to do it in the grocery store? Like, I don't think his plan was the grocery store, right? Oh, no, he did. He wanted that intentionally because he knew how much I love that grocery store.

Like, I cook, okay, guys. What grocery store was it? It's the Essex Market grocery store. Like, it's not even like, it's a market. Yeah, it's a market. After he proposed, we went and got tacos at the market. Of course. We forgot about the Shukkah.

And then I came back and my sisters are like, I'm sorry, what's your name? And I'm like, we're getting married. Everyone was like... What we want to talk about today, now that we're an hour into the episode is like, when you know, you know. Yeah. So like, how did you even rationalize this to other people? You know, I have to say... Good question. Thank you.

My mother, I know this is crazy. But like, she kind of gave me the confident to follow my gut and to like go forward with it. my parents got engaged three days after they met each other. Oh, okay. So it's a family thing. And also Edo's parents got married very quickly too. It's hereditary. I guess so.

My friends were like, what's the rush? Everyone kept, like, I had a bunch of people being like, what's the rush? Why do you have to get married? What's the rush? And I'm like, listen, we're not getting married tomorrow. We're engaged. And we were engaged for a year and a half before we got married. Okay, right.

So we just did it backwards. And I want to say, I actually think it's the way to do it. Because if you get engaged fast, then when you argue and you're going through those growing pains, you have to make it work. You have to be like, listen, we're going to be together. Let's talk about this. Right.

Because a lot of the times, if you're just dating, you're like, oh, fuck you. I can walk out the door. Yeah. Peace. Like, that kind of commitment and saying that you want to make it work to everyone around you makes you kind of like try, I think a little bit harder. I, 100% agree.

We talk about this all the time, just things that bond you together. Like, Raina and I, we can't just walk away from each other. we have a business together. Like, it's different, but it's the same. When you own a home, when you have a kid. Oh, no, you guys are married. You guys are like married. It just makes you rethink how you react, I think,

and you are able to manage conflict, I think a lot easier when you already have a commitment. Because I think you work backwards. You're like, at the end of this, we're going to be together. So how do I manage this situation and at the end of the day still be with the person and love them? Because when you're just dating, it's like, well, I don't need to manage the situation.

Fuck you, bye. Absolutely. I think it's, you know, for me, it worked. it might not be for everyone. But I think it's also, it's just something like, again, like to put yourself out there and to try. Like, I think that's the most you can do.

Because the truth is, I also have a lot of friends that dated for several years and got engaged and broke up. Of course. Like the engagement was too hard on their relationship. The pressure was too much. So I just feel like whether you do it immediately or you do it within five, six, seven years,

it doesn't matter. It still puts the same kind of, Like you still need to try. You need to always try and like relationships take communication. Yeah. And there's always a gamble. Whether you like when you get married, there's a risk. Whether you grow together or not.

That's it. Yeah. It doesn't matter how in love you are before or not. Totally. It's always about are you going to grow together or not? Yeah. I think also too, when people are together for so many years and they're and one party wants to be engaged and the other party doesn't it's because someone's uncertain.

So you just guys had 100% certainty. I mean, it was like, I want to marry you. I want to spend the rest of my life without you. Why would we not get engaged? And I just feel like that's what it all boils down to is being just absolutely sure. Like when I think when you know you know, to me means like I am, I have zero doubt about this person.

So how did you know? First of all, I really believe that so much of it is timing for both ends. On both ends. How old were you, 25? I was 25. Okay. Which just sounds crazy. But I do feel like I lived.

a lot at that stage too. Like, I've lived in London. I backpacked through India. I lived in New York. I, like, I traveled a lot. I did a lot. And I felt like, I think at that time, I felt like I knew myself enough to understand

if this was like, for me or not. Yeah. And, you know, age is just a number. Oh, absolutely. How old was your age difference? Five years. So he was 30. I was 25.

And it just, like, I feel like it just made sense. Like, I got out of this relationship, which I, checked out of like probably a year and a half before we broke up. So it wasn't like I was mourning that relationship and I needed my time. Right. It's kind of like I mourned it during the relationship and by the time I broke up. I'm like, it's really done. I'm ready to find someone who actually treats me and like the way I want to be treated. Yeah. And what I deserve. Yeah. You know, like you want a guy to treat you well and prioritize you. Like that, you know, wasn't my situation.

Yeah. And Edoe got out of back-to-back relationships. but he actually had time for himself to date and to see what was out there before we even met. So he was single for like almost a year and a half before we met and he was like, I was dating. Like he did the, like he was dating. He got out there. I'm like, I don't want to see the dees.

I hope no children knock on our door in like five years or something. I always want that. I want a guy that has been around. Oh, yeah. I want the guy that's out of his system. Like we talk about this with my best guy friend Rob. like he's like I've fucked enough chicks. You know, now he's engaged and he's just like,

I don't have, I don't need to hook up with any more girls. No, I totally. I want a guy that, like, I'm just like, I want you to have done it all. But not like a jigolo style. No, no, no, no, of course not. But like, it just doesn't bother me at all. Like, I would prefer somebody that's left,

that's gotten around and feel like they're done. I agree with you. I never thought about that. But I think also we're at an age where like, I would hope somebody at this age at 30 would have gotten around and gotten it out of their system. When they find you, they've gotten a ton of information.

about themselves. Yeah, they know who they are. Yeah. By stooping all those people. Right. Find out who you are. Ficked their way to self, what is it? Realization. Realization. Yeah. You were saying it was just good timing. Yeah. So I think a lot of it was good timing. And as I said, we were engaged for a year and a half. Like, he had to move in. You know what I mean? Like, he proposed to me before I even met my dad. He proposed to me before he knew really that many people in my life and vice versa. Like, I had to meet his family. Of course. So we lived together for a bit and we planned the wedding. And that was it.

Tons of questions. Yes. Did you have like fights and doubts? Were you ever like, were you ever like, fuck, was this a mistake? Like, or have you guys just really been able to communicate solidly this whole time? I think that Edo and I have had like maybe like three major blowout fights. And they happened mostly at the beginning, like before we even got married.

Okay. And there was some actually. So maybe like five major blowout. fights, but like ask me what we fought about now. No idea. No idea, which to me I think is a good sign because it was like probably stupid arguments. I never

doubted that he was the person. It was just, it's just growing pains in your relationship. You know, it's just we both come from different backgrounds. You have different expectations and it's just about communicating. That's why they call relationships or marriage work. Because it's just about communicating.

Communicating like, you know, you can be like, like over it sometimes. You're just like know what to do. Why do I have to tell you what to do? Read my mind. Absolutely. We all want people to read our mind. And it sounds like you guys,

you both are just authentic people that led with who you really are because people can really trick you and hide who they are. And I feel like I've been in relationships with people where I'm like, oh my God, I don't know you at all. Like you're a totally different person than you were at the beginning when we were like high on love drugs. You know what I mean?

I know. It's like you come down from the like beginning. I think I'm kind of like what you see is what you get. For sure. I hope that's how I come across. I'm a bad liar. I could never act. Oh, I could never lie. I can't lie. I lie and then I look at people

and I'm like, I lie. It makes me uncomfortable. Like I start sweating. So I think I definitely, like I was probably not as crude at the beginning. Like I wasn't like ripping farts, you know, like 24-7 around him. and like, you know, being like that version of myself. But it didn't take that much time for me to get to that version of myself.

But I love this advice. And I think that like, I think that we're all trying to be like the best version of ourselves on the first, second, third date interviews that we're on. And like, I think we're all really scared to be authentic. And I think for you like how you knew in the beginning that it was right when you know, you know, it was like you were both so authentically yourselves. And that wouldn't be for everybody. You're both a lot.

You're both very big personalities. And you're both really fun and funny and loud. and silly and that wouldn't be for everybody, you know? And I think you both led with who you were. And so there was like, you knew because you knew who the person was, you know? I think honestly, my best advice would like be treat your date like your good friend and see if they can handle that. Because inevitably, you're just looking for a best friend that you want to have sex with.

Right. Aren't we all? And you went into that with those expectations. Like this could be a new friend, right? Honestly, I was not looking for a relationship. And I think that's what got a start, like we started on a, on a, on a. a foot like that. Like we, you know, got into it quickly because neither one of, he was so jaded.

He's like, I've dated a lot of girls in New York, whatever. Okay, this is just another date. So he was like, whatever. I came in being like, I'm not even looking for a man. Like, I want to have a friend. Let's go out and have drinks and have fun. So I showed up early. I wasn't like late.

Yeah. Like two, like trying. Playing the game. No, I did not play. There was no game. Right. There was no game. And he came in and like, we got drunk and I ordered a BLT.

and I'm sitting there eating the BLT. I'm pretty sure he'd clean like mayo off my chin. It wasn't cute. It wasn't cute. Nature's loop. He didn't even eat. I was eating a BLT. Yeah.

And like I think because we immediately got into friend zone, like that to me was the, you know, you know moment. Because he could immediately roll with me and I could immediately roll with him like as like one of your close girls, you know? Yeah. I love that. And I, it's hard to manufacture. But like if you can go into.

first date situations with no expectations and like, yeah, well, maybe this can be a new friend. And I'm just going to be myself. Like, I think that's the way to do it. When I, a guy that I dated for a while, that is how we met. We met like, let's be friends. We connect, let's connect over comedy, stuff like that. And it was this casual lunch day date that I was like, this fucking guy. I don't even want to go. You know, like, he texted me and he was like, I'm kind of hungover. I'm like, do you want to cancel? It was just this whole thing of like, kind of not even wanting to go. Yeah. I got there. He was already eating. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? I'm like, this is not a date. I'm like, it was just so weird. it turned out later he was like, well, I was nervous and that's why I got food before.

I'm like, well, this is so weird. It's like a fast casual place, so I had to go get my food. I'm like, this is just. So he didn't even like pay for your fit. No, he was eating a sandwich when I walked in. I'm like this motherfucker. But it wasn't, it wasn't Des, obviously. It wasn't, this is in Atlanta.

I just kind of like, it was no. Maybe I'll get some laughs from this lunch. You know what I mean? And like, but immediately it was just like, oh, we connect. And it like spent the entire next. It was like you said. It spent the next every waking minute that we could with each other until we broke up.

You know what I mean? So I think you go into date situations like and get disappointed a lot. And if you can go into them, just like, whatever. Well, I also think it's fun to just maybe be like, let's go on this date and then you can meet up with your girlfriends after. So it doesn't put pressure on like keeping it going if it doesn't go well. Like I think to take the pressure off yourself is like the best way to kind of move forward for anyone that's dating.

Because I think once you start putting pressure, it changes your energy when you go on the date. People don't want to feel like the person's trying really hard to make it work. They want them to just be themselves because eventually you're going to find out who that person is. You know what I mean? Like it's inevitable. All the farting. You're going to find out what the farting.

God, there's so much farting in my home. It's like one huge Dutch oven. There's no escaping. You're so good looking at the two of you. I can't imagine it. I can't imagine the whole house. Come over. I don't want you now. Come over.

We'll order pizza on you. drink wine. What do you think happens? I won't let, I won't allow you don't order to Chumas anymore to the house. I'm like, why? Why? So I should sit here and be in pain. All the farting. I like this idea of like following your gut and I think that people are afraid to do that because they're afraid of failure. And like, failure is sort of different to me and like what is a successful relationship? And, you know, if you're married to somebody for 10 years and you break up, have you failed? Or is it a, or is it a great success that you were able to be with somebody for 10 years? And I

think that like you make different decisions at different times in your life. And for me, like, I moved in with somebody three months after we met. We had a great relationship for three years. And we were really happy together. We broke up after we got engaged. But that doesn't mean the relationship was a failure or that I regret trusting my gut. Three months in, it was right for me. I wanted to move in together. We got engaged. It was right for me. And I don't look at the relationship as a failure. I didn't fail. I had a really successful relationship for three, three and a half years. And that's over now, but I learned from it. And I'm happy I trusted my gut, you know? I think as human beings, we've,

focus on the negatives so much more than the positive. So it's easy for us to look at those things in our life, I think, negatively versus positively. And I do think that it's just the way you view things. And I think that that's a really, really smart thing to say. You know, everything you do in your life, they're all moments that are hopefully like making you grow and changing you. And you should just learn them as like experiences that hopefully help you evolve to eventually getting to a place where you want to be in your future, you know, to make the right choices and to trust your instincts and to trust your gut. Like, you know, all of my exes, okay, fine, you look back and you're like, what the fuck?

Why? Why did I date that person for me? I'm like, oh, God, I can't believe I date of those people. But then, like, I wouldn't have my stories and I wouldn't be probably this version of myself. Like, you have to, like, go through. I don't even know what to say. Well, it sounds like you.

I dated a bunch of crazies. Yeah. And you were in a relationship before that it sounds like it was like, well, this guy's great and I like his family and friends, but you knew it wasn't right. And I think that women do really know that. And like this happened to me where I was with somebody that I was like super in love with and was like thought I was going to marry. And then there was like this teeny tiny little voice in the back of my head.

That was like, it's not the right person. It's not right. I don't know what it was saying. Like I'm not hearing voices. But it's that woman's instinct of like it. It's not the thing. You know, whatever reason, whether it's not the person, it's not the right time. And I like pushed it so far away.

I was like arguing like with my own inner voice of like, that's not real. you know, like, why am I feeling this way? And I think women feel that way and men too with everything, job, a relationship. Like, you know, I'm sorry, there is something in you that tells you like, this isn't right. And I think that people should listen to that. And I think sometimes women email us and they're like, I just have this feeling. I'm like, what you're hearing is probably your own inner voice and your own instinct and like probably break this off. And like, I think, I don't know. I just strongly feel that way. Like really deep down, ask yourself that this is the right person for you. You know, you know, you know.

No, it's the same voice that, like, is in the back of your, like, head where you're like, oh, you know, once we get married, everything will work out. Yeah. That's the same voice. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Let's have a kid. Or, you know what?

Right now it's, it's really tough. But if we have a kid, it'll make it better. That happens. Of course it happens. I'm sure it happens a lot. It sounds so crazy. Or maybe if he's cheating. Maybe if I just, we move or something.

Like, that's what I felt. I was, like, pushing this voice out of my head. that was telling me that this wasn't right because I loved this person and I thought we were supposed to be together and like I was making those those arguments. Like, well, if we just figure this out, if this, if this, if this, if this, if this, if this, and like, you know, obviously it didn't work out because I knew. Well, I think it's just hard to like make the call. It's like, is this person a bad person or I just don't like what they're doing today?

Is this something that makes me feel bad this week or is this going to be like a thing that I can never train them to stop doing and I can never get through to them that I, like I dated somebody for a long time. He was great. Super smart, self-made, made a ton of money. everything he ever achieved in life, nobody handed him anything. He was great.

I just, and I trusted him. He liked to do a lot of fun stuff. He was great. I didn't like being with him that much. I mean, I just didn't like, we didn't vibe, like, we didn't laugh at the same stuff. I didn't enjoy talking about like the events of my day, basically. I was like, why can't I like this person?

You know how you like want to so badly. I want you so bad, but like on paper they're perfect. But in like reality, there's just that chemistry was just missing. Yes. And every day I was like, why don't I want to do this? I just, it took me so long to be like, I think this is run its course. You know, I just, I don't think we can do this anymore. But it's hard to trust your gut because also you're like, I should want to be with this person.

But I like what you said? Like when you, how did you put it? I just keep saying when you know, you know, women always know. I don't know. We have a friend right now that's dealing with that. And Raina keeps telling her like, you don't even like this guy. She's like agonizing every day over her relationship. And Raina's like, you don't want to be with him, bitch.

Stop. What are you doing? We like a scream at her. We're like, this is not. your person and you know it. So why are you wasting your time? We're in our 30s. Stop this. Yeah. Well, that's what it was like with me and my ex. Everyone's like, I can't believe you're still with him. Like, all you do is complain. All you do is complain. And I'm like, am I with him because I, because like I want a reason to complain? You know, I have to say

the one thing. You're a masochist. Yeah. The one thing that I do as a married woman miss, though, and this is completely like separate is don't you guys get to like, you know, the stories, the dating stories, like how crazy they are. You know, I used to have like lists and lists of like how fucking ridiculous all these dates were that I went on with men. And like now I don't have any like, I don't have any stories. Get back out there. Start dating again.

The stories. I have no funny stories. The stories are like, are horrifying and nightmarish. No. They're funny to a point. They're like in New York especially. They're funny. Like we're laughing while we're crying, I guess.

Like it's like. I went to when. out with this Portuguese guy. I want to say, do you have a good story? So I went out, I'm not going to say, I once went out with this guy. And we, he told me what he wanted to order. So the waiter came over and he's like, do you guys know what you want? I go, yeah, he'll get this and I'll get this. And the waiter walked away and he's like, you know what? I'd really appreciate it if you didn't order for me. Like, I don't want like the woman I'm dating to order my food. And I was like, okay, chill, psycho. Wait, hold on. really good story. I know a friend that went out. You can share all those stories. Nightmare days. So this didn't happen to me, but she told me this and I was shocked and I was also mad at her. So she went on a day with this guy in Brooklyn and he picked the spot and they went and it was like a really like inexpensive restaurant. And they're having like okay conversation and then the bill comes and he takes out his Groupon and he puts it down to pay and the woman comes to pick up

the you know the coupon and she's like, I'm so sorry this expired. And he throws in like a huge temper tantrum. No, no. Yes. To the point where my friend's like, I'll just split it with you. And he's like, okay. The bill was like $45. Okay.

I would pay, I would pay for it. I would have paid the whole thing and left. I would have paid the whole thing and left and that blocked his number. Guess what she did? She split it with him and then went for a drink. No. I was so mad at her. I go, are you insane?

She's like, well, I had nothing else to do that. Right. How desperate is she? I'm going to go spend more money. Okay, nothing will turn me off faster. I don't mind splitting a bail. If you are not nice to wait, staff, I will never go out with you again.

Yeah, the kicker there was, yeah, the Groupon, no, I'm turned off. But, like, then the Temper Tantrum, like, that guy should have already been embarrassed that he pulled a Groupon out. So he should have been like, oh, my God, no problem at all. Yeah, totally fine. Here's my card. Like, he doubled down on it. Yeah, but there's no, like, not everybody can afford everything.

And $45 for dinner is a lot of money for some people. I get that. But, like, yeah, to throw a temperate, like, it's the waitress's fault that you're too stupid to get an updated coupon. Also, okay, if you can't afford it, like, go for, a couple slices of pizza. I dated a guy one. We are with you on this. Wait. Or take a walk in the fucking park. I dated

a guy that was so broke, okay? He would pick me up and I would be on, I would go on the back of his bicycle and we would bike around Manhattan together. I'm not a motorcycle, bicycle, bicycle. No, bicycle. So I would sit on the back of his bike for dear life, like a fucking raccoon holding onto his back. Like,

one of those, like, really like. So he's like, where do you want to eat? And I knew he was so broke. So I'm like, let's go to Mamoons for for Lofel. Do you know how much Mamun's is? So the cheapest. I think not even, basically. When I, I still am shocked by how cheap it is. It's scary. It's so cheap. Anyway, we get there. We both order and he goes, do you mind paying for this?

Like, I was like, excuse me? Like, I don't know how many cheap guys. Like, it's just shocking. Do you mind? Do you mind paying for this? Do you mind getting this for me? And he walked away. And I was like, um, okay. It was $7 or something for like our thing. And I was, like, our thing. I was like, well, I can afford that, so I'll get it. Yeah, it's this crazy expensive city, but it's also so much free shit to do. Like, I would go to the park. Go to the park.

Go to China Town. Bring some peanuts. I have a dog. We can go to the dog park. Get a coffee, walk around. Eat some sunflower seeds. Walk around the park. Walk around the high line.

There's tons of stuff. You get a dollar slice. Like, it's, you do not need to. I don't want to go. I don't need to sit in a restaurant. That's true. Can you please get this for me? What a beast.

And then what? So rude. And then what? And then I bought it. And then sat and ate it with it. And then we continued dating. And that's where I was at that stage. And the bike?

That was like nine years ago. Like I wish I would have, I want to smack that girl on the face. Yeah. Smack that. I was on a date with a guy who we ordered, what happened? I already hated him. So I went to the second bar with him, obviously. And we ordered two Manhattan's.

We already had like a bunch of drinks. The Manhattan's were like this big. They were so massive. And you're like five foot. Yeah. Are you actually five foot? Are you actually five foot? Two drinks blacked out.

Yeah, I'm five feet tall. Oh, but I thought you were going to be like, I can drink you under the table. No, she cannot. On the opposite of that. I'm such a lightweight. She's such a lightweight. People like big league you.

I like little league you. I'm such a hot. I get tipsy off of one glass of wine. That's amazing. You're little league people. Thank you. We ordered these Manhattans. They were so big and I just like,

I had half of it. I didn't want it. He ordered another drink. And I was like, listen, just have mine. I'm not going to finish this. It's like really late. Whatever was a ton of alcohol. So I had like two,

at this drink, he had both drinks. And the bill came and he like gave me an attitude about not splitting it with him. And I was like, but I didn't drink this. You drank it. And you went to order another one. And I just gave you mine. Also, don't be out here not being able to afford two Manhattan's. But like, okay, he was so shitty to me. And now I just would never go out of the person like that again. And again, it's not about the money. I don't care if you can afford two Manhattan's. Don't be fucking rude to me about it. You know? Sound like a very successful date. What is wrong with people in this city? I don't know. I just. I just, I just, again, this is not a like, ew, I don't date guys that don't make money.

This is a tailor the date to what you can afford. I agree. I like this thing we were time about right before we recorded. I just want you to like say it again, if you don't mind because I think the people are like, how does she balance it all? And look at your Instagram and it's like, oh, my life is so glossy and perfect. Like, is it as easy as it looks? No.

No, no, no, no, no. Someone asked me the other day on Instagram, if you don't, I fight. And I'm like, yes, we fucking fight. Like, we are real people. we all have the same arguments that I'm sure everyone else does, except I just never stop in the middle of our argument and grab my phone and document like, you know, him yelling at me or me like giving him the finger.

Like, it just doesn't feel like the right time. It might confuse the fight though. You know, it might. He might also just be like, I hate that phone. I hate Instagram. Like, it's just, we already put so much of our personal life out there on Instagram that like I think some things are, are okay to be kept sacred, like, secret and sacred.

And my marriage is like the most important thing for me to me. So I just, I don't want to document us arguing, but I also want people to know that we do argue. We do disagree. You know, marriage is work, but not work that like you're like, work hard. It's just work constant communication. Yeah. And Instagram is just, it's, honestly, it's amazing, but it also sucks. because people go on and they just see,

and we talked about this earlier, all they see is the glossy, happy moments in everyone's lives. And the truth is, there is so much crap in between all of that gloss that doesn't get documented and people just don't see it. But I don't think they need to see it.

Like, yeah, it's my fucking highlight reel. Like, I'm not one of those people, and more power to the people and the celebrities and the influencers out there that are just like, they'll do those sad post of like, I woke up feeling depressed this morning and blah, blah, blah. Okay, great, because,

that speaks to a lot of people and we need it. I'm never going to do it. I'm never going to cry on my Instagram story. I'm never going to do these sad posts. Like, it's my highlight real. Get used to it. Yeah, I'm sad. And yeah, I cry.

And yeah, I'm a human. Like, I would never make something out that's not real. But I'm also not like, right after Rain and I got off the stage, we got in a huge fight. Like, it's why? You don't need to know that. No. It doesn't happen. It happened one time.

It's bad. Yeah, we got to fight one time, guys. You heard it here first. Like, but why would I talk about that? You just assume it happens. Well, people ask us all the time. People ask us all the time. We were at our business manager.

We were at their office. They were like, do you like each other? People ask us all the time. Do you fight? Do you like each other? Like, yeah, like, obviously like we're not going to. Obviously we argue about stuff. It's a business, you know?

But. And you're human. Yeah. Yeah. Like I just, I just think it's, you know, for me, I just like, I like, I like putting it out there. I want people to know. Like, there's no such thing as perfection.

perfect. Like, I am a hot mess and I'm not even exaggerating 90% of the time, okay? I am, seriously, I feel like you can ask anyone that works with me. They're like, Eden's a hot mess. And I am. So I try to document that all my stories that I'm not perfect and then nothing is perfect and I don't wear makeup and like, you know, I feel like I can try and give everyone as much as I possibly can that way. But I just don't, you know, I just don't want people to think that anything is perfect because it's not. No one's perfect. None of this shit is perfect. There's so much crap that goes into it. Everyone's like, how are you doing it? I'm like, there's, it takes a village. Yeah. It takes a village of people to help me raise my daughter. It takes a village to run the restaurant. It takes a

village to write the book and to recipe develop. Like, I am by no means doing this by myself. Right. Everyone is here helping me and I feel like, and I'm, and I'm hiring people. to help me. And for me, the more the merrier. Like I do so much better when there are people around me, giving the ideas, working together. Yeah. I like this idea of surrounding yourself with people that are better at things than you are. Why would you not? It's a very Danny Meyer, like I'm so crazy about him and his book setting the table. And he writes that, writes about how you should always surround yourself with people that are smarter than you and better than you. And that's why I feel about working with Ashley. She fills in all the gaps that I'm bad at.

Like all the things that I don't catch that I'm not good at, I have somebody to supplement that. I'm not scared of that. That's good. The other day I needed to look at some finance things. And I was like, you do it. I'm not going to catch these things. You do it. And like, it's important to be around people that are better at things than you are.

Absolutely. Well, like, you know, the team E squared, hospitality. Like, hello. I don't, I don't know how to run a restaurant. Like, what the fuck? That's the sound bite I love. Yeah. I don't have a run a restaurant.

No, I don't. Like, I come, I have a menu. Like I'm co-founder. I helped Sam and I created the concept together for almost all the decisions Sam and I did it together. But like the day-to-day running and ordering and keeping things moving, like I can take part in that, but I'm not doing that every day. Yeah. So it's just, you know, and I'm totally cool with saying that out loud.

Like I'm not sure. I'm not trying to be anything that I'm not. Yeah. You can have it all. Just ask for help. Absolutely. When we wrap up, we're going to have you plug everything in the restaurants and the Instagram and everything.

But we do a segment every week with. with guests. We do a different segment. This week we're doing psycho or power move. Okay. People send us the things that they did that are crazy or cool and we decide if it's psycho or power move. You're going to decide if it's psycho or power move. Okay. All right. Ashley's going to kick it off with the first psycho or power move. Okay. Psycho or power move. Last fall, my fiance came home after 12 plus hours of drinking and told me he didn't want to get married. Raina, did you write this? If I had a dollar for every time this happened to me

That's exactly what happened to you I think we can laugh about it now Okay Needless to say I dodged a bullet We were supposed to go to the Caribbean together last Christmas And I had bought his flight for him I was the breadwinner and I have airline status Did I write this email?

This is crazy I ended up going on the vacation with a girlfriend Her name's Ashley Hustletide I'm kidding That's not you So she That's amazing I ended up going on the vacation with a girl

friend was unable to cancel his flight without canceling mine as well since she booked it. I opened my United Airlines app the other day and noticed he is reusing the ticket for another flight this spring. What I also notice is that I have control over his reservation since I originally booked the ticket. I thought through some options for how to fuck with him. I decided against changing or canceling his flight and opted for something more subtle. That bastard had been able to select seats up front in economy comfort since I have airline

status. I have since moved him to the middle seat in the back row. She sent an image. I can't wait for him to get to the airport only to notice that his extra leg room has been traded for a middle seat by the shitter. That's all she did? Right, I know.

That's it? That's all it. I would have canceled the flight. Can she cancel the flight? I think she should, yeah. I would have canceled the flight and reused the flight for myself. I don't think she can.

This happened to me. I booked a flight for my ex to go to my friend's wedding with me and then we got in this huge fight and I was like, you can't go. This is crazy. and it was really bad. And so, yeah, I called Delta,

and they were like, what would happen because it's in his name, but you booked it is that he still is the one that would use the flight. And this guy, like, Nick from Delta, took pity on me and he ended up, refunding the flight in full. I was like crying.

I was like, but we broke up. And he was like, you know what? Let me get my manager on the phone and like ended up. Oh, thank God. They were saying they were like, even if you cancel it, it's still going to be his to use.

So I'll at least you fuck with him a little bit. I love this middle seat thing, though. I love that he still, I like that he still thinks he's going to go. on this great flight and it like ruins this flight. Being near the toilet is really, it's really hard. That seat doesn't recline. Oh, in the back row.

I don't know. But you're disappointed. I got something crazier for you. Okay, so clearly that's not psycho. That's like not enough. It should be more psycho. I would have been, I don't know, I don't even, I can't even get there.

I would have been so angry. Like, I wouldn't even know what to do. That's so tacky. I know. I can't believe he, I can't do worse. I cannot believe he did use that flight. What a shit. head. Yes. All right. Well,

that wasn't crazy. I would have asked him for the money. Like, he should be paying her back. Definitely Venmo request him for, like, damages. I love, if we get so many emails from girls that do that for like emotional distress, Venmo requests people. Okay. I have a funny from your therapist. Okay. So a few years ago, I was at a nightclub and my scumbag ex was there with the girl he had cheated on me with. I didn't really care that much about this new girl or the

breakup, but she did have a problem with me. Every time I walked past her, her and her friends would snarkily make comments, and at one point she even pushed me. I didn't want to fight back because I have a career to think about, so I had to get tactical. I knew my exes took a home with me if I tried, once a cheater and all that. So at the end of the night, I asked him to walk me home. He did, and I invited him in. We went to bed, and I, quote, unquote, fell asleep. I waited until I knew he was definitely asleep, and I got his phone.

He still had the same password from when we were together. So I went on Snapchat. I took a Snapchat of myself, pretending to be sleeping, and captioned it, mate, you'll never guess where I ended up, and sent it to the new girl so it looked like it came from him. And then instantly sent another and was pretending to still be my ex and said, oh shit, I'm sorry, that wasn't for you. We'll talk tomorrow.

Yes. And I put his phone away, woke him up, kicked him out, and never spoke to either of them since. Did she have sex with him? I paraphrased this email because it was very long. She said she did not have sex with him. But she just spent the night to get the pick. Yeah. Damn, that's so good.

That's like commitment. Yeah. That's serious commitment. Yes. It is so creative. That is extremely creative, and I commend her for, like, going the distance. Like, I would have probably just not even thought about my career and, like, punched her in the face. Right.

Like, I would have just... I just would have just... I just would have figured that. Like, in the bar, I probably would have, like, grabbed her face and, like, smacked it a little bit. Hit her over the head with a beer bottle. Actually, but I just want to say one thing. I find it crazy that when a man cheats on a woman, the woman... the women fight. The only person that fucked up here is the man. The guy. Why are the women taking

their anger out on the other woman? It's so awful and it's like it shouldn't be that way. The only person that fucked up was the man. The woman has nothing to do with that relationship. Right. The man was the one that made the commitment. Oh, we're totally with you. It just doesn't make sense that like the women need to be so mean to the other women. I totally agree. We talk about this all the time. Like, it's not their fault unless they purposely did something to. Or she knows you. Yeah. She didn't, you don't owe anything to this person. You don't know them. But it sounds like, the thing is, is that.

It's like, what did that scumbag do? This girl was, probably pretend that he wasn't in a relationship. But this, what she did is she, I mean, I mean, she ruined the relationship, which is good. That was the goal. I totally agree. And I don't think that's psycho. I think it's cool. But I love that the way she did it is so genius because she did it to make it seem so authentic to him.

Like he sent the Snapchat. I was like, oh, fuck, sorry. I meant someone else. Like, he can't backtrack that. There's no way he can say, no, no, no, she took my Snapchat. And then she accidentally, and then she pretended, it's just like, she did it so perfectly. He slept over.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. Whether or not they fooled around, he slept over, that's already like you're, you've cheated in my books. We call this a psychotic power move. Yeah. All right. Our last email, this is special for you.

This is very funny. You want to read it? Oh, yeah, I'll just breeze through it. Okay. My boyfriend and I have been together for five years. He has raised my six-year-old son and we share a daughter. We have every intention of getting married in the future. It's just not as high as our priorities, blah, blah, blah.

Prior to me, he dated a girl for best. he dated a girl for about a year who had a daughter, not his. His mother still sees the daughter all the time. Again, this is not a daughter that's related to her and takes her to do things and keeps her for weekends at a time while my son is treated like a red-headed stepchild, pun intended because he is a ginger. Anyway, my mother-in-law hates me

because she wanted my boyfriend and his ex to get back together up until a year ago when we found out I was pregnant. That's the backstory of the mother-in-law. She makes it known she doesn't like me. She also hates oranges and the smell of oranges. So when she comes over, I use orange essential oils in my diffuser and place it on the end table next to my couch where

she always sits. I purposely feed my son in orange and stick the peel in the garbage disposal and run it. So my entire kitchen smells of the sweet scent of oranges while she's here. That's brilliant. I also just bought a blood orange body spray from Target and I can't wait to marinate in it before she comes over. Psycho or power move. This is so funny.

Psycho power moves. Like maybe a little bit of that, both. But in a good way. So power move. It's suddenly fucking with somebody so bad. But if she said, the mother-in-law said, like, I feel like you're fucking me. You'd be like, what is wrong with you? Yes, that's the best.

Well, I just feel like, I also feel like absolutely throw the orange in her face, but I think she also needs to sit down with that woman and put her in her place. This is fucked up. Listen, you were the mother. You are like, you're the mother now. You're the mother now. Yeah. You are the mother of your family.

You are the partner to that man. Yeah. So you also need to establish your ground rules. Right. And I think that she needs to. talk with that woman and say, listen, by all means, I'm not telling you not to have a relationship with that kid. But if you're going to have a relationship with that kid, I would really appreciate it if you took that energy in time to put as much energy into our kid. Yeah. Crazy. Prioritize your

grandchild by blood because he's a good kid and like he deserves your attention and your love. Right. Like, oh, absolutely. You know, for me as a mom, I always look at like, you know, my parents and Edo's parents and I'm like, I hope that A feels like she has three sets of parents. Like you want that love for your children. Right. It's not even about her. It's about her kid. Right.

Don't punish my kid because you don't like me. Right. Like that poor kid, like his grandma doesn't even want to spend time with him. She's with some other rando kid. That's awful. Like it's like she's punishing her by being with that other kid. And the only person that's going to suffer is the actual kid. Yeah.

So I think that she needs to sit down with that woman and say, listen, you need to be good with my kid and you need to put that energy into my kid. That's your actual grandchild. Right. Yeah. And take a whiff of this apartment. It smells like oranges. And make sure you chew orange gum while you talk to her about it.

And brew her some orange herbal tea. No, I like that you took the mature root. Mature root. But I also like what Raina said. Like, I love those moves where if someone were to call you out on it, you could be like, what the fuck are you talking about? Paranoid. Yeah.

Did you purposely put oranges in here? You're like, you crazy lady. Yeah, I purposely put oranges in here. Sharon. Yeah. Orange is put, tell her to get a diffuser with a, orange essential oils. That's what she did. Oh, she got the diffuser. Sorry, I missed that part. It was diffuser orange in the garbage disposal and body spray. Diffuser, like, is the most like orangey.

Yeah. Those fucked up you could do. Essential oils. Oh my gosh. Well, that was all our psychore power moves. This is great. Thank you for playing. You were great. The whole episode, did you have fun? Oh my God. Are you kidding? Good. I feel like we go way, way, way back. Yeah. We do go way back. But Ashley and I, this is our first time, like, sitting and, you know, chatting away. Yeah. But this is perfect. I kept telling Ashley how much she would love you. Oh, duh. I mean, I believe you. Yay.

So I want you to plug all your things, tell people where they can find you in the restaurants, on TV, your Instagram, whatever else you want to plug your book. So, yeah. So you guys can follow me on Instagram at Eat and Eats. You can follow me at Des, at In The Des, which is the restaurant that Ashley loves the meatballs at. Yeah, don't have any right now, but whatever.

So you can watch me on Top Chef Canada, on Food Network Canada, Monday's 10 p.m. Eastern. And my book doesn't have a title yet, but it will be coming out fall 2020. So if you guys follow me on Instagram, you'll be, you know, you'll know what it's called soon and you'll be able to follow along with the journey. All right, well, we had a great time.

And as always, you guys can find us at Girls' Gotta Eat Podcast.com for all the show information for some cute merch. We're going to update the merch. Ashley's been subtly hinting at me that I need to get on top of the merch. Hello. I need to see this merch. I know. Well, it's nothing, whatever.

We'll have new march for you guys for spring. Sorry we didn't have any spring break 10. Thanks for you guys, but whatever. The intern's on vacation. The designer, sorry. This bitch. Our intern will be back from Italy on May 2nd and she... Does your intern travel to the world?

She's studying abroad. But she's... I mean, I hate to call her the intern, but our designer, Leah. She'll be doing some new stuff. Check us out. Girls Got E! Podcast for all the show tickets. New shows being announced soon. Yeah.

That's it. Have a great week, guys. Bye. Bye.