Girls Gotta Eat - Younger Men, Friend Breakups, and Exes with Selling Sunset's Mary Fitzgerald
Episode Date: May 16, 2022We had such a great time chatting with our Selling Sunset fave Mary Fitzgerald about her younger husband, being a teen mom, toxic friendships, the wild real estate climate, and more. She opens about h...er and Romain managing their finances, what she wishes they showed on the show, how she stayed friends with Jason after dating, and her fertility journey. Before Mary joins us, we're discussing weddings -- hooking up at them, bringing dates vs. riding solo, and more. Enjoy! Follow Mary on Instagram @TheMaryFitzgerland and watch her on Netflix's Selling Sunset. Follow us @GirlsGottaEatPodcast, Rayna @Rayna.Greenberg, and Ashley @AshHess. Visit our website for tour dates, merchandise, and more. Thank you to our partners this week: Babbel: Visit babbel.com/gge for up to 60% off your subscription. Uqora: Get proactive about urinary tract health and 20% off at uqora.com/gge. Milk Bar: Get $10 off an order of $50 by going to milkbarstore.com/gge. Osea: Get 10% off your first order with promo code GGE at oseamalibu.com. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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When I found out his age, and this was like, I think, on our first date, I was like, oh my God.
Okay, I feel like a cradle rubber right now.
Like, you're not much older than my son.
Like, what am I doing?
I was like, this is insane.
So, of girls got to eat.
Welcome back.
We made it through the winter.
It's here, guys.
It's 70 degrees out of fire.
It's sunny.
I went to the park yesterday.
Went to the park.
It's a little dog.
It was so nice.
There was dogs everywhere.
There was men everywhere.
The men are on these streets.
I feel like they're in the park.
They're on the trails.
You went to a new park.
They're reading.
I've found a new place to go with the Zool.
We're over on the East River.
Living our best life.
Are there hotter guys on the East River?
That's a toughie.
Yesterday, when I went to Williamsburg, I went to Domino Park,
and they just surrounded me, not to talk to me,
just to work out, and they're all, like, grunting very loudly
and their shorts were off.
I didn't hate it.
Yeah.
It was nice.
I've been having a lot of male energy in my life.
I feel like last week, all I did was hang out with dudes.
Bro and out.
Male energy?
Men in general.
You need them.
You know what I mean?
A woman's job is to support a man.
We'll talk about it.
I got actually to watch We Crash.
It's from the time.
It's from We Crash.
Okay.
So we are on the road this week, guys.
We're heading out to Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, and Detroit.
There's still some tickets left, probably.
We don't know what's going on in Pittsburgh.
You guys are a mess.
Not you people, but, you know.
Yeah, not the audience, but everything else.
Yeah, everything else.
Yes.
But the show's going to be great.
Yeah, we're really excited.
My entire family is going to.
be there and family friends and tons of people and it'll be really fun. So if you guys have wild
stories, you want to roast your friends, you bring single guys, you're just crazy stories to tell us
and you're coming to the shows. Email us at Stories at GirlsGuttypodcast.com and give us the tea.
Okay, yes. And we are announcing new cities. Oh yeah. Some of the ones that are closest to my heart
and that is Philly, Atlanta, Nashville, and Boston. Oh my God. So many faves. We are so excited.
I can feel it in my vagina.
I'm so excited.
We are going to do the same theater we did in Atlanta before because we're obsessed with
there.
We're doing the tabernacle.
We live with the tabernacle.
It's where we can only play there.
We don't care.
That's it.
I don't care.
And we leveled up in other things.
We're doing the Met in Philly.
We're doing the wang in Boston on brand.
And finally, Nashville.
You guys have been asking for shows in Nashville.
And we are so excited to come there.
Yes.
So, oh my God.
Do you have the dates?
Boston is the 20.
Shit.
Hold on, hold on.
Atlanta is the 17th.
Saturday the 17th and the Nashville is September the 16th.
I just said the 17th.
I didn't say this the month.
Atlanta is September 17th.
Nashville is the night before.
September 16th.
Boston Saturday night.
Holiday weekend.
Halloween again.
It's our Halloween tradition.
The 29th at the Wang.
October.
October.
You're all over the place.
And then we're going to back up three weeks and go to Philly October.
You know what?
Let's start fresh.
Nashville, September 16th, Atlanta, September 17th.
Azul.
I love you. He's on my lap. Philly, October 8th, Boston, October 29th.
Yes, and we might be adding one more show to the run in Atlanta and Nashville.
We're going to keep you guys posted. We're just working on one more city. And if not, we'll be there soon.
Everything else we're working on. We locked a date for the holiday show for New York. So we'll release
all that soon. We're working on Florida and Ohio and all kinds of other stuff. So girls' Gottiepottest.com for tickets.
And those will be released next Monday. So the 23rd.
Next Monday, the 23rd at 10 a.m. Eastern Time.
Right?
You're like really locking eyes with me.
I'm not sure.
That sounds right.
So if you're on the West Coast, you got to get.
But no, they're East Coast show.
So you're up.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I think I asked for 10 in the email we sent most recently.
Yeah, I think it's going to be 10.
Listen.
So save the date.
Wake up and get those tickets.
I cannot wait.
I mean, I love everywhere we go.
But, you know, I mean, Philly is always like a hometown show.
So is Atlanta.
Boston.
I mean, these are our favorite places.
I cannot believe we're with the wang.
The whang.
Because we love the wong.
Wellber, but we were going to do like four shows at the Wilbur.
I don't know how we even, we were going to do it.
You're going to do it.
I don't know how we agree to it.
I mean, we love it.
The Wilbur is one of the best theaters in America.
Yeah.
But we're like, let's just do one big blowout at the Wang.
Huang.
What the, that's not.
And then the Met in Philly, I just, it's iconic.
We're excited to see you guys in the fall.
And then if you want, you can still get tickets to Toronto on June 4th.
We have a Montreal show coming.
Also, we even told people about it.
It'll be in July.
Yeah, well, I mean, we'll let you guys know.
Yeah.
We confirmed it.
We did.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, it's for JFL.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's for Just Her Laughs in Montreal during Just Her Laughes.
So we'll let you guys now.
Yeah.
So we'll see you guys.
And now we are...
Three weeks away?
Yeah, three weeks from the new company.
Six, six, six.
Save the date.
All these dates save.
And we will announce it then.
It's going to be huge, guys.
Yeah.
Huge.
Yeah.
So, guys, we have Mary today from selling sunset.
that I am so excited.
And just a couple weeks ago, we were saying, like, who would you choose as your realtor?
Not knowing that we had Mary locked in.
We knew that we wanted to have her on, but we still were like we would choose Mary.
So we love her so much.
We can't wait to talk to her today.
And, you know, hopefully she'll spill a little tea for us and we'll ask other questions that you guys want to know about her.
But we're really excited.
Did you watch the reunion?
Yeah, girl.
It was pretty drama-free.
I mean, Christine faked COVID didn't go.
And I don't know.
It was nice to watch a bunch of people.
rub each other to shreds, I guess.
I didn't hate that she wasn't there.
I don't care all.
Because it was like, they kind of were all, you know, as respectful as they could be while
still sharing their truth and telling the truth about these things that happened, some of the
things of which involved Christine.
And she wasn't there to gaslight and fake cry.
I liked it.
Like people were like, I wish she was there.
I don't because I get so tense when it, you know, like, I like that they were like,
here is kind of who she is, what she did.
Here we proved that she did this thing with this bribe and yada yada.
And she wasn't there to fucking act crazy.
about it. And I, um, it was just so heartbreaking, like the Crischel and Jason stuff. I mean,
that was like the most that anyone had seen Jason emot, really. I love Tan France. I thought Tan did
so good. He did not, like he didn't go easy. I did not see this coming. I know. Well, I knew that he was
hosting it and I was like, I hope Tan like really gets in there and asks the tough questions.
And he, I thought he did an amazing job. I thought he was incredible. And I thought it was just nice to watch
Rene to not be not monopolized by people screaming at each other.
Jason was crying and it was really beautiful and heartfelt.
Oh, and I loved that Chelsea answered for her fake accent.
She was like, I know everybody thinks it's fake.
I've wanted to say it for a long time.
Listen, it does sound fake, but she did, she made it clear that like she's lived in a million
different places and that's why she sounds like that.
That's what Dorit sounds crazy too.
I loved the fashion montage so much.
When they went through it, I was like, I'm wet.
Like when they were showing all the outfits.
But also, I didn't know Griselle was going to announce the G-flip thing.
Did you know that?
I didn't see that coming. No, but I think that that was the only time it got announced because then it got, well, the photos of her got leaked.
Right. So I guess she had to, but that was like, I feel like the big public announcement and Maya's face was the confusion.
For a lot of reasons, I think she didn't know, but she just was like, what is going on here?
It was interesting to watch her because I think she was trying to navigate some minefields around. I mean, and she didn't outright say this, but dating somebody not being in a heterosexual,
male and female, like,
cisgendered relationship.
Or you mean, because the baby's watching her talk about it,
just in general. I think that she was like really careful
to navigate, not insulting anybody,
or, you know, I think this is a new experience for her.
So like to navigate talking about this on national television would be tough.
But I think she did a good job.
She was just like, I've, I mean, I've put words around,
I love about energy, you know?
I'm just, I'm into what I'm into.
I mean, it is.
I'm like, good for her.
Okay.
So this weekend coming up, like, as we record.
It might be the death of me, but we'll see.
I don't know how you're going to do it, man.
So we have a wedding.
I feel like you're like Nobu Friday, Vegas Saturday.
What is that from?
Chloe Kardashian.
People made it to TikTok.
She's talking to Scott.
She's like, I am so busy.
No boo Friday.
Vegas Saturday.
Wait, that's how it.
That's you.
Hampton's Friday.
Vegas Saturday.
I mean, it is Hampton's Friday, Vegas Saturday.
What?
You got to do a TikTok in the car.
You got to do it.
You're driving back.
Marcello can be Scott and you'll be close.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll do it.
We'll do it.
We'll do it forcillo.
Yeah, I mean, we have Hannah's wedding.
Friday.
Hannah's wedding, Friday.
And then I'm going to this Vegas Saturday.
This music festival, it's called the Lovers and Friends Fest in Las Vegas.
And I mean, I did not know Hannah's wedding date when I planned this festival.
I still don't think I would have, I would have still wanted to go.
But this is just, this is going to be a lot.
Now I have to leave the wedding Friday night, drive back.
two hours from the Hamptons, wake up,
buck crack a dawn to fly to Vegas,
go straight to the music festival.
But I mean, this festival, I mean, when I saw the lineup,
I was like, how is this even real?
I mean, it's like, Usher, Ludacris, TLC, Sierra, Nelly,
Lauren Hill, Brandy, Monica, Lil Kim, Mace.
Like, it's my whole playlist.
It's like my whole identity are these artists from, like,
that are, you know, still popular a day,
but kind of a lot of them had their heyday in like late 90s,
early 2000s, mid-2000s.
And so you guys know,
I'm obsessed to that time period of hip hop and R&B and rap music.
And it's like, I'm so excited.
We have a VIP cabana.
I think Fred Smith is going.
Yes, that's what you told me.
He told me that I saw him recently.
Who's our guest in June of 2020?
Yeah.
So it's going to, it's just, it's going to be a lot.
I'm just trying to like hydrate and take vitamins.
Are you going to drink at the wedding?
Like, what do you get your vibe at the wedding?
I mean, you know me.
I've been on drunken ages.
Like I just kind of like drink so moderately.
I have like a couple drinks.
Like I'll just have a couple drinks at the wedding.
Come back and I'll be packed and I'll just fucking go.
Just fucking go. Let's fucking go.
Friday will be the first time I would drink.
I'm just, my body, I'm just trying to like listen to my body.
I just haven't really wanted alcohol that much recently.
We had a couple drinks on Saturday.
But other than that, like, I'm not going to have a drink this week until Friday,
which is a lot for me.
I drink every day.
Even when I say I don't drink, that means I had two glasses of wine at my house
on a phone call.
Like, I drink every day.
So this week I'm just trying to be good.
I'm trying to work out every day and not drink.
And I'm just feeling a little bloated.
So Friday will be my first drink.
I'm basically sober.
So I'm taking five nights off.
But I'm so excited for this wedding.
We have so many friends going.
And of course, we love Hannah and Des.
And weddings just make me like so horny.
Weddings do?
Yeah.
I mean, Ashley's my date to this wedding.
I'm going like solo.
Well, I don't even know if we, like,
this feels like just a party with our friends.
Like I don't even know.
I don't even know if I had a plus one.
Like it was always just like you and I would go together unless like someone
landed a boyfriend.
But I don't even know if I have a plus one.
I don't care.
Like I would never bring someone.
to this wedding unless it was like a serious person I was in relationship because it's so much
of our friends. Yes, I agree. And then I landed a guy to stay in his house in the Hamptons as well
after the wedding. It's platonic. He's just a friend. But yeah, it does feel like that. Like a lot
of our friends are going. And I was like, I wanted to talk to you about like bringing dates to
weddings and like, you know, going solo. But I don't, weddings I feel like so horny. I've had like so much
sex at weddings. You just make you want to fuck like crazy.
not the institution of marriage
as someone who doesn't
like um not that at all
someone who doesn't believe in marriage no
um I mean I'm kidding sort of not really
but I don't know that they made me especially horny
more than some other situations but I've always like back
when I was my 20s and all my girlfriends got married
in my 20 I mean I was I think my six best college girlfriends
the last one got married when I was
28. So literally it started like 22, you know, like all their weddings. They just got married really,
I mean, young, whatever you think of whatever. You might think that's what. You might think it's not.
It felt like early now looking back that they were all married starting to have kids by 30.
Looking at me, I'm such an outlier of the group. But I was like just such a drunk slut.
I mean, I was always, I was like, you're always horny. Wake up. I always got so smashed at the
rehearsal dinner. Always. I was the rehearsal dinner blackout friend. Because it's always just
flowing, you know, like the wine.
It's so fun.
That's like the more fun night.
You're doing all like those speeches of the friends.
And it's like, I've been in so many that's like I passed the mic situation.
And I've just like woken up on the wedding mornings.
Like, where am I?
Do it again.
Like I woke up one time.
This was a another girlfriend from college, not in like my main group, but her rehearsal
dinner hooked up with this guy who was also like a, you know, a wedding guest and
like woke up so still drunk and had to go to hair and makeup at 9 a.m.
And like I woke up, we were in my apartment in Atlanta.
She got married in Atlanta.
Like, I was so drunk still in the morning,
walked Dewey around, Emond Park, around my neighborhood, in a nighty.
I just went outside in like a nighty, like, sheer.
And then I drove, we drove back the hotel.
I had a sombrero in my car.
He put on the sombrero.
We're walking into the Lowe's hotel.
People were like, what is going on?
Like, I went up to hair and makeup still, like, very drunk.
We were unstoppable at that age.
I missed those ages where like hangovers just didn't fucking matter.
I mean, it hurt.
It wasn't good.
wasn't good.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad this is only one night because I can't handle two nights of drinking in a row.
I got to come back to a little birthday party on Saturday.
But one night is enough for me.
I think I get so horny at weddings.
It's like the perfect storm for me.
Everybody looks great.
Everyone's like really cleaned up.
I look amazing.
So I'm like really feeling myself.
I love the music.
I love the open bar.
True.
I just,
I get really horny.
There's so many weddings I've left early to go home and fuck.
Like a lot of them.
My boyfriend in college, his brother got married.
We fucked in the bathroom, like in the hallway.
Everybody could hear us.
I've left a rehearsal and a wedding two summers ago to have sex and just never went back.
I hooked up my brother's best friend at his wedding.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Like a lot of weddings.
I guess people really want to fuck and do drugs.
Yes.
First time I ever did Coke was at a wedding.
Of course, in the bathroom.
People always are, there's so much drugs of weddings that I didn't really even know about.
I was like 30.
Like I never, you know, I just like, I was kind of like, just not into drugs.
And like, I still am not.
But I've, like, I've done Coke like a couple times.
Can we talk about this?
This is fine, right?
I think this is, oh, yeah, why not?
Yeah, I'm not actively doing drugs.
I don't even really smoke weed.
I went to this wedding in Pittsburgh of a girlfriend
of mine years ago, and people were, like, doing Coke in the bathroom.
And she had, like, a meltdown.
Oh, she was pissed.
Urious that people were doing drugs at her wedding.
I mean, you can't really control the people's behavior.
I understand being upset about it.
If you're like, my family's here, what the fuck?
Yeah, if I walked into my wedding or any special event
and someone had, like, needles out, I'd be pissed.
Needles are different than, like, a joint.
Or like, but like, there was heroin at my wedding.
Yeah, but I don't think that you're even going to know that people did a couple bombs in the bathroom.
Just be safe out there, guys.
Are people doing like Molly?
I feel like Molly at a wedding is a little crazy.
When Raina said she gets horny weddings, that's what she meant.
She just takes Molly.
I take ecstasy.
I don't know what the trends are these days at wedding.
I mean, I'm assuming people are doing Coke.
Ketamine.
Ketamine at a wedding.
What are the kids doing?
Are people doing ketamine at weddings?
What it? Aren't people doing ketamine?
At weddings? Does it make you, what does it do?
Makes you sleepy?
Ficked up. You're too fucked up to be in public.
You're not hanging out on ketamine.
It's, wait, are you, ketamine, not like fentanyl.
Ketamine is like a horse tranquilizer?
I don't know.
Ketting will fuck you up.
I thought they were doing, no, they were doing ketamine on white lotus when he was
eating that guy's ass. I thought they were like all hopped up on ketamine.
Do you want to be so fucked up that you eat your boss's ass?
I don't really know what ketamine does.
I'm coming out as a person who doesn't really understand it.
Let's look it up.
I think it relaxes you.
Yeah.
I mean, it fucks you up.
Shrooms at a wedding.
That's probably a thing people are doing.
Yeah.
Ketamine.
What is ketamine?
It's primary usage.
It maintains anesthesia.
So it's like,
it fucks you up.
Raina, look it up.
more like what if you get up why are the kids doing it uses anesthesia a trans like state providing
pain relief sedation and amnesia so it's like an open you guys don't don't listen this is not we're
not endorsing drugs i don't sometimes we're talking and i could see the title of the club ashley
learns what ketamine is so it sounds like maybe that's not a wedding vibe no but if you want to
eat your boss's asshole and you're like i'm too scared to do it and i'd like to maybe do it but
i want to get the nerve up and also not remember it but okay but i thought maybe i'm maybe i'm wrong you
You were so much more into that show than I was.
I swear to God in White Lotus, they were like, let's do a bunch of K or whatever.
And then it got to a K hole and then it got crazy.
Yeah.
So it looked to me like that was a like, oh, like an upper kind of dry.
Yeah, like they were eating ass and like the music was crazy.
Like it was like a crazy montage.
It didn't seem like they, but maybe they were also like kind of drowsy too.
I will read you this, the common side effects.
Dream like feelings, blurred vision, double vision, jerky muscle movements.
All right.
So maybe, yeah, maybe it's like you kind of do.
both.
I do remember the blur, like the dream like sequence on that, on that scene too.
Guys, be safe out there.
Yeah, I'm not doing like MDMA or going to a table.
I've never done that.
Never.
I remember that one time, that guy was like really trying to get me to do Molly with him.
Remember, what did we call Airbnb guy?
That guy tried to get you Molly with him?
I've never heard this before.
Well, we were staying in the street.
Remember, it was, we all know Airbnb guy.
And he was just trying to say like, I really think you'd like it.
I'm happy to do it with you.
do like, you know, your first time.
And then we, like, didn't work out.
You and him didn't work out as a couple.
Remember my lips were really chapped that summer?
Yeah, and you went back to his place and there was like a family in it.
And he made you make the bed.
It was that you guys, like, this is a fucking crazy story.
Crazy story that I kind of now feel like this should baby be a stand-up bit too.
That was wild.
Wild.
Like, we had to let this family in the Airbnb.
I was helping with the blow-up mattress.
You were, like, pretty chill about it, too.
Do you feel like Ashley today would be blowing up an air mattress in an Airbnb?
Yes, because, like, that's, like,
the story you write a bit about it. Yeah, for sure. Um, well, I just want to ask like your thoughts in,
we haven't like talked about this in a while because it's wedding season and dates and people
always talk about like going solo to weddings. And when I've answered this before, I'd like to
revise my stance on it. But like in terms of going solo to weddings, like would you and break it down
into two, a wedding like in town, like where you're going to go down the street to the wedding
versus a wedding out of town. And are you going by yourself if you don't have a date?
Yeah. I have been to so many weddings solo. I don't feel the need to.
to bring a date that's not like a boyfriend or someone I'm dating.
So, yeah, I mean, I feel like I was always the single person at so many weddings.
But like it never felt really weird because I was with my friends and, you know what I mean?
So I never really felt out of place.
We've talked about this before, you and I.
It would be tough if you were at a wedding where you really were not, those were not your best friends.
Like, I don't think I've been in a situation like that.
I had one wedding where, you know, I was more of like one of her fringe friends.
And I was with me at the time.
So I brought him.
So I've been pretty lucky where I haven't had those situations where I am going into a wedding
where I don't really know a lot of people and I don't have a date.
Like I've kind of, but I've been to so many weddings alone.
Yeah, out of town.
I mean, Kate and Corey both got married in Mexico one year after the other.
I mean, I didn't bring a date to either of those.
I mean, Corey's wedding was a whole mess with my ex.
He was supposed to go and he didn't.
And then Trump got elected.
It was wild.
But yeah, I mean, I don't have any hesitation about it.
The only thing would be a wedding where I feel like I don't.
don't really know a lot of people. And I had a wedding like that. We talked about this on the podcast
where I was a little stressed about it. I was going to go to this like really expensive, fancy
wedding where I really wasn't going to know that many people. And I really wanted to go and I didn't
know who I was going. And then as it turned out, I didn't end up going. We had shows that we didn't
think we could do and then we did do them. So I didn't, I'm sad that I missed the wedding. But that was like
the one time I was like pretty stressed. I was like, I got to find a date to this wedding. I don't
want to go alone. It's on this beautiful resort. But yeah, it's never really bothered me. I know people
freak out. I don't have a date to this wedding, yada, y'all. Like, I don't care. For me, like, going
solo, like, if I'm going to be with a big group of people that I know, and I'm just going to, like,
if somebody's like, bring a date and it's just like some person that everybody doesn't also know.
Right. Even if it was like Jeremy, he was my best friend, I wouldn't want to bring him to the
wedding and be like, I have to babysit this person. It's so much better to be alone. The worst thing that's
possible is babysitting somebody, especially if you're in the wedding.
and you have obligations.
Yeah, like even my brother and his wife
who've been together for, I don't know, over 10 years.
They've been married for, it'll be five years now.
They go to wedding solo sometimes if like both of them,
because she's like, I don't know anybody at this thing.
I don't want to fly across the country and go to this stuff
because they've like five or six weddings this spring.
And he went to one by himself last weekend
because he was like, I'm not going to drag her there.
She doesn't know anybody.
What does she want to be bothered doing this for?
Yeah, I mean, and if anybody's worried about this,
like if you're younger and you're kind of just getting into
the time of your life when everybody's getting married,
don't worry about it.
It doesn't even come up.
I'm just hanging out with my friends.
Again, not a lot of people you know,
it can be weird and I want to validate that.
That would kind of suck.
You've been in that situation.
So my stance, I want to change is like the weekend before I met you.
It was like one of,
I mean, I want to be like, it's the one of the worst weekends in my life,
but I went to a wedding in Boston.
It was my best friends from college.
And I just, I don't really know what to be she's friends with anymore.
And I didn't have that much money.
And I like, I went there by myself.
I wasn't invited with a guest.
He had in a shitty hotel.
and I was sitting with these people that were from New York
and I think she was like,
they're from New York and I didn't really know anybody
and it was just like, I was so physically uncomfortable
and I think that I wouldn't do it again.
I think that like I would say to a friend like,
I mean, it would be weird.
Like this is not my best friend in the world,
but a good friend.
I think it would be odd if somebody at this point
didn't invite you with a guest.
And I think I know that it's uncomfortable
but I think I would say like,
hey, I don't know anybody and I would love to bring somebody
if that's okay with you.
And if somebody says no,
I mean, you can evaluate whether you want to go or not,
I wouldn't be in that situation again.
It was like really shitty for me.
That is, that's a great call.
Like being, if you don't get invited with the guests, you don't know anybody, being like,
can I bring somebody?
I'm thinking of a wedding I went to, my friend Brooke who got married.
I think that was like the first like Jewish wedding I went to, where we did, you know,
did all the traditional stuff.
I didn't really know that many people, but I knew like enough that I like had a girlfriend
that I texted beforehand and kind of felt out that that was going to be the kind of like
my buddy at the wedding.
You know what I mean?
Like I think you can usually figure it out.
But if you really don't know anybody.
asked to bring somebody. I mean, it can be really
uncomfortable. Yeah.
But if not, guys, trust me, don't ever freak out about
not having a wedding date if your bunch of your friends are going to be there.
You'll meet somebody there. It's going to be great. Don't stress.
What, there's two, there's two songs you can't dance to because there's slow songs.
No one even cares about the baths. Do some coke in the bathroom all day.
Do you be doing some ketamine in the bedroom. Yeah, going to a Khole.
You won't even remember you're at a wedding, you guys.
I've been in tons of weddings by myself and I think it's really fun.
I've always just sat with my friends. I don't give a shit.
But if it's out of town and somebody invites me and I don't know anybody.
I'm asking for a guest or I'm not going.
I'm not spending a bunch of money to be uncomfortable.
I don't like doing things I don't want to do.
And as an adult, I'm not doing it.
I'm not doing things I don't want to do.
And I think that, listen,
not everybody's on the hook to pay for your date to come to their wedding,
especially if they don't know that person.
I understand that like people have financial restrictions.
But you can also say I can't afford to come unless I split the hotel room and the car
with somebody.
And I think that's fine.
I mean, we could do a wedding reboot.
We did a wedding episode really early on.
But I mean, I have so many feelings on it.
We all know a lot of opinions.
But, I mean, if you have chosen to have a
wedding where the hotel rooms are $500 plus dollars, you have got to be okay with some people
actually not being able to afford your wedding. And I have had to miss weddings because I couldn't afford
them like when I was younger. It sucks, but people understand that I will say you grow up a little bit
when your friends get married more in their 30s, you have more money. And I loved when my friends
had those more expensive destination weddings. It's like a bomb vacation for me and all my friends,
you know. But when couples choose to do that, they should know that some people can't come.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So have a good wedding season, guys.
Yeah.
Do whatever.
We're in it.
So many weddings.
Yeah.
Do we have more than two this summer?
Oh, I don't, I'm just being like in general.
I feel like there are a lot of weddings.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, no one got married in 2020 and half of 2021.
So we're making up for it.
So we're back.
We're just going to do a couple short things, a couple short wrecks.
Then we'll get into it with Mary.
I had said this in intro, but I had a lot of bro time last week.
Okay.
So, which I, I've always had these really best guy friends in my life.
But my best guy friend from,
high school who moved to Prague after college and he's lived there ever since and he has a family
there he married a Czech woman and has two children he was in town with his two sons and it was so nice
I did like two nights with him we spent one night to sewhouse and just caught up and then we ended up
I mean it rained all weekends we ended up going to Italy and just having some like drinks and
food on the rooftop and it was like it's so nice to just catch up with somebody who like knows you on
that level you know what I mean like I really have some some people friends in my life I mean I've
known Corey since I was four years old. So Corey's like, you know, she has that title. But it's just so
nice. Like those people are such family to you. Like I am such a like sentimental person that I love
reminiscing about like high school and stuff. And it was just so cool to be like, can you believe
we're sitting here? Like in New York City, we're both like killing it and our careers. I didn't tell you this.
We're just like reminiscing about like chem two. You know what I mean? Like getting kicked out of
chemistry class. Like we're talking about our teachers and it's like everybody from our hometown.
And he has my yearbook, which we have, if you guys listen, this was actually in an ad
that I never got my senior year yearbook back.
And everybody had signed it.
He was the last person.
He took it home with him and then I never got it back.
So I got one.
My mom drove to the high school to get me a new yearbook because they were like selling yearbooks from
some graduating classes.
And my brother was like, I saw this in Facebook.
Do you want a yearbook?
My mom drove to the high school.
So I had this blank yearbook that arrived, which was so funny to look through, like a
yearbook from a while back.
And then he told me he still has it.
He was like, I was looking through it.
All the things that people said.
I was like, I can't believe it's still out there in the world.
It's such a important memento.
I know. I wonder how many people still have their yearbooks. I don't. You don't? My mom probably does in the basement. I don't. Yeah. Well, did your mom moved after high school? Like, you think they got lost in like the move? Because she doesn't love me. She purposely lost them. Well, no. I mean, things like get lost in moves. You know, she probably hasn't in the basement. Every time I'm home, she's like, you gotta go through your stuff in the basement. I'm like, it feels like it has a good home. It's been living there for a decade. It's fine. So yeah, it's somewhere. I'd love to go back and look for it. I think it's really special. And reconnecting with those people is always just like, I
I don't know. No one's ever going to know you like that, you know?
I know, really. They just, those people, like, your high school friends and, like, middle school, you know, growing up friends, like hometown just know you on such a different level.
He's hot. I'm sorry. He's married. Yeah. I mean, yeah. People were, um...
Wait, don't tell me. People were DMing you and asking it was a soft launch. People were sending it to me and asking me if you were soft launching. People were asking, that would have been a hard soft launch full face.
But like we've said this before is someone that's not on Instagram. You don't know who that is? I'm never launching again.
I'll launch at my wedding.
But yeah, he's hot.
And I did watch Dale Moss's movie on, I had to buy it.
I paid for it because I told you guys I was going to watch it.
It is on Prime Video and you have to rent it.
It's just like a rom-com.
It's cute.
It feels like it should be on like homework.
You liked his acting, though.
You were into it.
Okay.
I think Dale's a good actor.
Okay.
I was into it.
First of all, he looks so hot.
Dale, I love you.
I thought he was a good actor.
I shouldn't sound so surprised.
Like, he's a good actor.
I would watch Dale do anything.
I would watch Dale change a light bulb.
I would watch him teach math.
I would watch him literally do anything.
He was like, this tennis coach.
I fuck so many tennis players randomly.
You, what?
I fucked a number of tennis players in my life.
I don't know this.
In college and yeah.
It's a thing for you.
Like, I'm into mascots.
You're in tennis players.
I fucked one after your birthday last year.
That's guys, like he plays tennis or he played a little,
He's like a big deal on tennis.
He was like, okay, he was like ran.
Yeah.
And then a lot of like, in college, I went through a tennis phase.
You know, I'm the worst tennis player that ever lived.
They cut two people from the JV tennis team in the history of the program.
And it was me and my best friend.
How were you so bad?
I just wasn't good.
I mean, I'm not that athletic.
I'm not that athletic.
I would have been cut too.
But like you're more athletic than I am.
Well, I, I, I'm good at some stuff.
But I think I'd be good at tennis now.
I do want to kind of pick it back up
because it feels like such a thing
that like so many people do.
Like all my guy friends play tennis.
Like a lot of my girlfriends do,
I kind of want to relearn it.
I would relearn it.
Fuck some tennis dudes.
Get back into it.
If we ever get,
if you know that's the way to get me to stay out late,
that's the way to get me to play a sport too.
A guy.
If we ever have a day off,
if we were an hour off,
I'll go play tennis with you.
I feel like all the guys we know play tennis.
Francis.
They're always playing tennis.
Sean, Satchin,
all those guys.
Rishi, Ted Jones.
Everybody plays tennis.
All right, you guys, we're going to learn how to play tennis
so that we can have fun.
I'm never going to learn to ride a bike, but I'll learn how to play tennis.
Okay, Myrek, I have been watching the girl from Plainville.
I am obsessed with this show.
It is on Hulu.
It's eight episodes.
It's about, you guys will remember the court case.
Michelle Carter, she basically texted her boyfriend,
encouraging him to kill himself,
and she went to prison for it for assisted manslaughter.
And it's just, it's a fascinating story.
Fanning as the star. She is phenomenal in the role. I hesitate to recommend shows before I finish
them because like sometimes you start a show and like the flight attendant and two episodes are great
and then it descends into total dog shit. Or no, the one you really got mad about. Clickbait. Clickbait,
yes. They click baited me. I just here's the thing. I don't like shows that are supposed to be
about like just normal everyday people and suddenly like in the flight attendant she's fighting
international assassins and breaking into buildings and she's getting past encrypted softwares. And
I'm just like, this is fucking stupid.
I don't care about this.
But the girl from Plainville is so fantastic.
I think there is a documentary on HBO about the court case,
but you can just Wikipedia for five seconds.
And there is a new book that I just bought,
which I'm just adding into.
Anna Wintor's biography is not an autobiography.
She refused to be a part of it.
But the author's name is Amy O'Dell,
and it's supposed to be like the definitive biography of Anna Wintor.
And just if you're into fashion and just New York media at all,
the book just came out this week.
So I'm really excited about it.
Okay.
And last rack.
And then we have to let Marion.
Mike Cannon, one of our former guests,
we just love him.
He's a hysterical New York City comedian
is coming out with his special.
This week, May 18th.
It's on YouTube.
So you can just go to his Instagram
for details.
Mike Cannon, we think he is just like
the absolute funniest.
All of his,
we watched his last stand-up special.
We went to the film.
So truly one of the funniest moments
on this podcast.
I mean, I fell off the couch.
I will never get over it.
People still come up to him and they go to his shows and they're like,
the cheese wedge.
Like, what did he say?
He was talking about he was like,
he was like, something about a gymnastics thing.
The gymnastics thing.
We don't know gymnastics terms.
But it was from June of 2019.
I think we had him and Mike Feeney on the show and truly one of my favorite moments ever of all time of the show.
And he's incredible.
If you guys want to just look for Mike Cannon and Mike Feeney when we had them on in 2019,
his Instagram is I am Mike Cannon.
He has great clips on TikTok as well.
so we can't hype him enough.
We think he's hilarious.
We love him.
He's really great.
Okay.
All right, guys,
we are so excited
to have this guest today.
You know her and love her.
We know her and love her.
She is the baddest bitch
in real estate.
She is coming to us from L.A.
She is the star of selling Sunstead.
Please welcome this show, Mary Fitzgerald.
Hello, guys.
Hi.
Thank you for having me.
We're so excited to have you.
I sprung this question on Raina.
Two weeks ago, I said,
if you could pick a realtor, who would it be on the show?
We both went back and forth.
We both landed on Mary.
On you.
Thank you guys.
Because she like knows her shit and she seems tough,
but also like kind and like a person that has your best interest at heart
and you'd actually like, you know, want to spend time with.
Not that you need to be best friends with your realtor, but.
I do.
You know, we do.
You know, I ended up becoming really good friends with most of my client.
So I think you spend so much time together.
And it's such an important.
purchase and just so emotional that you just somehow really become close because realtors know
everything about their clients. You know, all their financials. You know, every issue that they have
if it's up or down or everything. And so I think you do just form a bond. Is this like the craziest
market you've seen in your history? Yeah. In your career. Yeah. And I started in 2008. So that was when
the market crashed and it had nothing on this.
This is just, I mean, it was bad then.
It's good now, but it's just crazy.
I feel bad for all my buyers under like four million.
Like, I feel terrible for him because it's a shit show.
Yeah, I'm just like, it's heartbreaking.
Am I allowed to say that?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
You can be as dirty and naughty and swear it was very cool on.
Yeah.
I was so naive, like the first time I put an offer in this house.
Of course, I didn't get it.
And then the next one I didn't get it.
It's just like heartbreaking and I just can't compete if people are coming in all cash,
no inspection, crazy stuff, you know?
Yeah, I know.
You have to remove almost all inspection contingencies and appraisal.
Even if you're getting loan, you have to remove the appraisal and just like be willing to pay
for like the gap if there is one or get like double up so that you have two appraisers
come out and hopefully one of them will hit right now.
In the beginning, nothing was coming in at price because,
Because you're like, why are you paying this much over?
That's not what the comp show.
But if you have 10 offers all over asking, obviously the house is worth it.
I mean, the market determines the value.
So they kind of got on board.
So most of the time, that's not an issue anymore.
But with a loan, you have to, sometimes you have to remove the loan contingents.
Right.
If you really want it, just make sure the lender's like, I don't suggest it, but you're good.
I have full faith.
I can get this for you.
but I definitely don't suggest it.
You're like, okay, do it.
It's so true.
All the people are like, I wouldn't do it.
And you're like, well, this is what we do now.
This is what we do in a post-COVID world.
It's a nightmare.
I know.
And every time I'm like, just make sure you're comfortable with it.
I don't want to tell you to do it because I don't want to be that bad guy.
But if you want the house and your lender saying,
and most of the time, a lot of my clients use a lender that we use a lot.
And if he says he feels confident, I'm good.
because he's never let one thing fall through.
I mean, he's incredible.
So if he gives a thumbs up, like a hesitant thumbs up,
then I'm like, go for it.
A hesitant thumbs up.
I love that.
You know, hopefully we're on our way to buy in a house with you soon.
So we'll talk after.
Yeah.
So we have, we're just like such a fan of the show and you.
And we just have loved watching your, I guess, journey on the show.
And something, so we want to talk to about all kinds of stuff today.
But I feel like, I mean, Ashley, I've talked about us on our show,
like the last couple seasons of selling 10-sad have been sort of overshadowed by like certain
types of drama. And I would have loved to dive more into your and Remain's relationship because
there was like a couple different times where we saw scenes where you guys are talking about
money and buying things together and a wealth disparity and an age disparity. And then the camera
cuts to like drama and fighting. I'm like, wait, I want to go back and hear more about this.
We want the Mary and Romaine show. We are, we think he really like the first season like didn't
get enough air time and then he just. I agree.
like funny.
Like his one,
his one liners were like,
give us Romaine.
Oh my God.
If you guys could see him,
like what you guys see on the show
and then what he's like in person,
he is so funny and so outgoing.
On the show,
especially season one.
It looked like he can't even,
people are like,
he can't even speak English.
He doesn't talk.
And I'm like,
this man doesn't shut up.
Like I literally almost go insane.
Because he comes home and he's like,
he's like the energizer bunny.
And he's like the energizer bunny.
And he wait.
up in the morning, he's like, my baby,
but he starts the minute he wakes up.
And I have to have like two cups of coffee first
before I can even say a word.
And he's just like running all over the place.
All happy and chatty.
And he's so funny, so just outgoing.
And I think because he just calls people on their shit.
And he's, you know, I still laid back,
like in a certain way, very energetic,
but laid back as far as being cool with everything.
But when he has something to say,
if you offend him.
It's like, watch out.
And he's so stubborn.
He will not change his mind.
Yeah, he's just like blunt.
I love it.
He just like says it.
You're like, oh, oh, oh.
Yeah.
You're like, oh, my God.
Yeah.
Well, I don't think he likes it
when somebody is shitty to his woman.
And I think it's nice to watch a man stick up for you.
And I think there's a lot of reality shows
with like, husbands don't get involved.
And it's like, I don't know.
If I see somebody being shitty to my partner,
why would I not get involved?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's very, very protective of me.
And I feel like I'm, I think it's mutual.
In the beginning, that's the only thing I think I ever commented, like people's negativity
on social media.
Like, they can say stuff about me.
They can say whatever.
You go out my husband and I'm like, okay, hang on.
And so I kill him on kindness, though.
He just says it like it is.
And I will spend two hours forming this whole message to make sure I am so nice and just
think it through.
So I put them in their place and such a nice.
way, but they get it. And then they're like, I'm so sorry. And every time, people apologize.
Because, I mean, I have to spend so much time to make sure I get it right. But if you attack my
husband, I will spend that time, then I don't have to make sure if you understand. Yeah. I mean,
Ashley always says, like, she and like, I love it too, that like you make somebody feel so stupid via
kindness that they delete their comment. If they did the comment, I'm like winning.
Yes. I have a question about him because I think we saw it for like, again,
two seconds on this season. And I'm curious, is he like a project manager? Like, what does he do?
He works with you? Yeah. So he works, um, a white club estates. They are a, um, like,
remodeling construction company that you guys have probably seen his partners on our show,
Alice and Alex, but, um, they're like kind of background sometimes on different projects.
But he's the project manager for a lot of our clients and for Jason's projects. Um, he did
Jason's house that you saw in the beginning, like where the whole,
crazy fight on season one,
having. He was the one that did that whole job.
He's doing two penthouses right now.
He just did one of the girls Kelly from Ling Empire.
He did the OC office, and he just doesn't take shit from anybody.
And Jason saw that when he started working for him.
And he was keeping everybody in line, like in this first week.
Like, like, calling people out, making them stay.
And then he was like, Jason's like, uh, okay.
He was like, you're not done.
You're like, you stay until your work is done.
He's like, I'm not here to be your friend.
And Jason's like, oh, okay, I need to have you in a different role.
Yeah.
And he's such a quick learner.
So now he's getting his GC license.
And that's what we're kind of waiting on that to start flipping.
Plus right now the market, like we said, is so crazy.
You can't get a deal anywhere.
So while he's getting his GC license and he finishes the projects he has,
then we're going to start flipping.
Okay.
I think that it's really nice to listen to, like, talk about your part.
and how proud you are him.
And I'm sure you get asked a lot of questions about,
like, what is like to date somebody so much younger than you?
Would be married, somebody so much younger than you.
But I think that the fear, at least for me or for other people,
is like, are they so young that I'm never going to be able to be proud of them?
Am I, you know, am I always going to be like mothering them and babysat?
It seems like you're really, like, impressed by him and excited.
You know, I think that's really nice and special.
Yeah.
No, Romaine is so mature.
I don't, I don't have to baby him at all.
If any, he's probably more mature than all of our friends that are made,
40s. So he's turning
29 next month.
I know I'm like, he's such a baby. I'm like,
but, you know, he's 24 when I met him.
Was it, was it a concern then?
Like, or did it, what do you guys have between you?
Like 10 years?
Yeah.
It was a concern.
13 years, I think.
Okay.
Whatever.
Because I'm turning 42.
10 plus.
So I went through a stage where I just kept dating guys that were all like 10 or more years
younger than me.
And I don't know.
It's obviously I'm single now.
It didn't work out with any of them.
But were you ever like, I can't.
He's 24.
It's too younger.
Was it not ever an issue?
When I found out his age,
and this was like,
I think on our first date,
I was like,
oh my God.
Okay,
I feel like a cradle rubber right now.
Like you're not much older than my son.
Like,
what am I doing?
I was like,
this is insane.
But he just acts different.
Like everything about him is different.
I think just being European
and being on his own
and traveling the world working
since he was 17,
really made a different.
and he's just so he's an old soul.
So I've never had that issue with them.
Yeah, because I think sometimes it's like
you're so much further ahead of them career-wise too.
Have you felt like that at all?
Or is it kind of like, obviously he's grown into what he's doing now.
He's killing it.
But were there those moments of like,
we're too far apart on this life spectrum?
There have been moments like where we've had to talk about,
he's very confident, super stubborn, very confident.
So most of the time,
does not affect him. But there are certain times like when buying a house, like where if I want to
get something and it's like California is not cheap. And so it's like four or five hundred thousand
put down on a house. He's like, I don't have it. Like sorry. And I was like, it's fine. He's like,
no, it's not fine. I'm paying my like my portion. You're not going to pay anything for me.
So it took a while to come up with a plan on how we both feel comfortable and where he can still
pay half, but he's not holding me back from investing and doing stuff too. So we've come up with
a plan. We're totally good with it now. And we've worked together on it. So I mean, yeah, it's caused
a hiccup, but we're good. Yeah, I feel like we saw a little bit of that on the show. And we were like,
this is so intriguing to us more than some of the other things the show is chosen to focus on.
I mean, what advice do you have for people dealing with that? I think just communication and
putting yourself in each other's shoes. It's like respecting where
they're coming from. And if both parties have good intentions, it's like relationships and marriage
is about compromise. So there's always a give and take. And this is one where I think at least for me,
I saw that he just has such honor and pride and everything. And I was like, how am I going to get
mad at him for that? Let's just figure out a way where he feels comfortable because he is young.
He did just come to the States and he's doing this well in just a couple of years. I've had my entire life.
or at least since I moved out to LA and my son got older where I could really focus on my career.
I mean, I've had this time. He hasn't. So I have to give him that respect and credit that he's done so much and such a short amount of time.
So, yeah, I think just respecting each other and listening and working through it.
I mean, it's better than the alternative of someone taking advantage. I mean, we've been in situations like that.
Like he's obviously like, I want to contribute and, you know, and I'm going to work hard and get to
the point where I'm contributing as opposed to like, I don't want you to pay for this,
but I also don't want to work hard.
Yeah.
You're like, well, I can't do anything with that.
Well, I know.
In my, my ex, my other relationship, like, I mean, that was the case where it was like,
so I'm very sensitive to people taking advantage and taking money from me.
I'm like, I was someone of a money twitch is what my friends call it, where I'm like,
Jason Jason did that.
I literally twitch.
Yeah.
I literally twitch.
Yeah. I'm like, I work hard. You're not taking my money. But remains a polar opposite. So I think it's a breath of fresh air that someone actually wants to work for their own money and they want to contribute. And so I'm just having everything handed to them. Yeah. And I loved, again, like the scenes I didn't get enough of them. Um, where he was like absolutely not. Like I am contributing to this. And, you know, I have been, I'm going to have hammered as a podcast for so many for like all an entire year, you know, of somebody taking and taking. But.
I think it's also fair for somebody to say, okay, you make 10 times more than me.
But I will contribute 20% of what I make this month.
If you contribute 20% of what you made that month.
And they're-
He refuses to do any less than half.
Okay.
He is the most stubborn man ever.
Like, I'm not joking.
Like, where he's, I mean, I love it.
He's so, like, he just has so much pride.
And I love that about him.
But he's like, no, I will pay half.
What you guys have is such a great equality.
and mutual will respect of like we're split down the middle.
Like we're equal partners here.
Yeah.
And maybe some people think it's weird.
But for us and I think for his personality and then what I've been through in the past
and where I have like triggers about that, it works for us.
And I think we're both very comfortable doing it this way.
I don't think it's weird.
I think everybody is their own boundaries.
And like we've started on the show a lot.
Like you can talk things through.
And sometimes the answer is just it's not going to work out.
You know, if your boundary is I want to be with him,
and it pays for every single thing
and it feels like you're on the hook
for everything all the time,
then maybe that's just not your guy.
If wants me to go 50-50 with you,
like if somebody just isn't contributing,
maybe that's just not your guy.
You can talk about it until the end of time
for you're like right in your face,
but that just might not be your person.
Exactly. That's fine too.
Yeah.
So I feel like on the,
maybe this most recent season,
you talked a little bit more about your story
being a such a young and single mother.
Like, I don't need to talk about your whole journey today,
but I just find it so inspiring.
and you're so open about like, yeah, it was fucking hard, you know?
It was.
And I don't know that was a while back, but how did you navigate?
What, you were 16 when you had your son?
I was 16, yeah.
I think I was 15 when I got pregnant.
The first guy ever, my boyfriend at the time, first boyfriend, first I ever had sex.
I mean, it was just like, if something could go wrong, it did.
But I would never change it.
I'd be the most amazing son out of it.
But yeah, his dad wasn't, I mean, we were kids and he wasn't really think I found out once I was pregnant, not really from a good family.
And it wasn't really something I thought was good for my son to be around.
But thankfully, I didn't have to make that decision because he bolted anyway when it was about six months.
So, yeah, it's just been the two of us.
And so I went to college and just, I don't know, I just never wanted to be that stereotype.
I feel like there's a couple things that probably led me to it.
I have kind of a, that personality anywhere where I want to show myself more than other people.
I don't like to disappoint myself.
And so we were very Catholic at the time, went to Catholic school.
And when I got pregnant, I did what the religion said to do and have the baby.
And I knew some of my friends had all had abortions and stuff like already.
and but all their parents
and then like they all acted like
I was just this terrible person
for getting pregnant. I'm like, I wouldn't
say anything but I'm like, I know
what has happened.
I wouldn't say it. But then everyone just like
showed me I wasn't allowed to do like the confirmation
or anything like that. The church kind of like
just looked down upon me.
So I feel like that
changed me a little bit
where I wanted
to prove to myself that I wasn't
a failure, I guess,
in some way.
And that by no means makes someone a failure.
But I just didn't want to become a stereotype
where I'm like, you know, just going welfare.
I'm from Indiana in the middle of the country.
So I didn't want to do that.
I wanted to give my son a life.
I wanted to give myself a life.
And there are many things along the way.
I think that maybe pushed me in that direction.
First of why, I didn't have a choice.
I had to work my house off.
Otherwise, there was not going to be food on the table.
So I didn't really have a lot.
option. But I think a lot of things, a lot of experiences that you go through make you who you are.
Yeah. It's it's so foreign and so impressive to me to like go to college and work and like have a
child. You know, you're going to classes. You're doing all this stuff and you have someone who's
relying on you. I don't know if anybody's ever seen it. I have scars all over me.
But because I got in wrecks all the time. I will fall asleep of driving. I was so exhausted.
Because you were just so anxiety.
Yeah, I would just fall asleep.
Everyone thought I had an arcoelopecy.
Because I would just like, I'm just a working mom and going to school.
I would legit.
Like I would vote.
I would leave first thing in a morning.
And sometimes my family would help.
Sometimes it's not going out and having a life.
No, never.
They were like, you chose this.
You are going to be responsible.
If it had to do with school or work, sometimes if they were able to, they would,
they would watch them in between.
But I would typically go do, like for college,
my clinical work and it was downtown
Indianapolis and then so if the
daycare center opened
like after I had to leave my dad would
come pick them up and take them there for me
and then I would
come back pick them up take them to
another sitter and go work
to like pay for things and then
go to class and stuff
so it was just basically bouncing
around from
sitter to sitter for a couple years
which I felt terrible about
you do what you have to do I mean it's
it is. I couldn't have kept a plant alive. Well, I still can't keep a plant alive. No. It's really,
I think of God. It's incredible. It's like really admirable. And yeah, I can't keep anything alive.
And I'm in my surveys. So I don't know how you did it at that age. It's really incredible.
And then when did you guys move to L.A.? It was in 2001. 2001.
Oh, you've been in L.A. a long time. Got it. I think it was 2002.
Yeah. Okay. So you've been mom and dad his whole life. Pretty much. Yeah. My mom watched him for about a month when I first moved to L.A. So where I could get settled, find a place, find a school. And then we came back from London and he started school there in Arizona. And then to finish up school, he didn't want to move. I got a job in New York. And so for one months at the end of his high school, he wanted to stay there. But so my family is amazing. They pitch in whenever they can.
but when I was young, they definitely were not going to let me get off easy.
And they wanted to teach me a lesson.
And you never have sex again.
Yeah, it was the right thing to do.
I wasn't super happy about it at the time, but they were right doing it.
Was dating an issue?
Like, did you have time to date, introducing him to new partners?
We get that question a lot from listeners of like, I'm a single mom and dating.
When do I introduce?
Do I, you know?
Oh, I made many mistakes as far as that.
that goes.
I'm not.
I'm like a serial monogamous.
So I never really, I hate dating.
Like despise it.
And so I was always in long-term relationships,
either just single or a long-term relationship.
I feel like I just handled it wrong.
If I'm really honest,
I thought at the time that when I would meet somebody
maybe like a week or two in,
I'm like, okay, I would introduce him to him,
because I was like, if they don't get along or if they don't like them, then there's no point
because we're like a package.
Well, then he's meeting like all these people, because I mean, how often to relationships
like not work out after a couple months?
And so then my son's just meeting all these random people.
And so I was like, that was in hindsight, I thought I had good intentions.
I wouldn't do it the same way.
But luckily it wasn't, I don't date a lot.
But yeah, I wish I would have been a little bit more protective and just.
and dealt with that with the guy
and not bring my son into it
until I was like, sure,
like this is going to work out.
But I also know what you mean.
I know you're like, well, if you don't get along with him,
then why we...
Let's not continue.
Well, the notion is protective, right?
It's like, if my son doesn't like you,
you can get the fuck out of you?
Like, you're instinct.
Can you hear that a lot?
You know, if my kid doesn't like you,
I'm not interested in you,
especially it's a son who's protective of his mother.
So I don't think you do anything, quote, quote,
wrong.
I think you hear people say this all the time.
Like, my man's got to meet my kid
before he gets to, like,
you know, the second date with May.
Yeah.
So, like, looking back, what would, like, is there, like,
a amount of time you would wait or anything like that before you would tell your son?
I still don't know.
I mean, I'm lucky I'm married now, and hopefully it's going to last forever.
So I don't have to worry about that.
But I don't know if there's an exact number of, or how long, like, you should date before.
I think it's like you go on where you guys are at and the connection and how serious you are.
But, I mean, I think I would have waited longer than I did.
I have a question because you see that you show this in the show a little bit.
We had some questions about it also.
And you can talk about this as much or as little as you'd like to.
But in terms of like your fertility journey, are you guys trying to have kids?
And if you don't want to talk about it, we don't have to.
You know, that's okay.
That's okay.
Yeah, we actually, I've been a little emotional and stuff.
I've got patches on right now.
Because I did, we were doing the embryo freezing.
So we're going to do that.
We don't know when we want to implant them.
but I went for fertility testing a couple years ago and I should have listened when they told me that when you turn 40, I think I was 39 at the time.
They said when you turn 40, like your fertility decreases like by 50% every year.
My numbers were off the charts for my age and I was like, I'm good.
And oh, I got a little too cocky because I'm no longer that good.
And it's only been a couple years.
But it's, I think I had like 16 eggs before doing any of the, the injections and all the hormones.
And now I have six.
So that's a huge drop.
And that doesn't take any count that the eggs are healthy and viable.
And the order you get, they're less healthy they are.
So we're going through that right now.
I just did injections like that booster thing.
And then I have these patches.
so then we're going to start doing all the additional injections
and do the egg retrieval and embryo freezing this month.
Oh my gosh, you're really going through it.
Well, thanks for taking.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, I waited long enough.
So I'm like, if I don't do it now, like, if we get picked back up for other seasons,
I'm like, I have to get this done now.
Otherwise, I feel like I might put it off again thinking, oh, I'll do it.
I'll do it in a couple months.
Yeah.
And then it's just going to keep happening, like, what happened this time.
So I just have to suck it up and be like,
we're doing it right now. Well, best of luck to you guys. I want to see our Mary and Romaine, baby.
Yeah. I'm so nervous because they, um, the one thing I was like, okay, I'll do it,
but I'm not taking up my IUD. And I was like, there's no way. Well, apparently not. Well,
they said sometimes, but, but my doctor's like, well, there's still a little bit of hormones
in it. You have to take it out to make sure this goes right. So I had to take it out and I'm like,
I'm so scared. Wait, so you could get pregnant. I'm going to ask you a really personal question.
I'm in open book most of the time.
So are you guys going to try just natural?
Just try it?
Hopefully it doesn't just happen.
But no, we're not going to just try natural.
I really want to go.
And I think for my age,
I think it's going to be smart to have all the genetic testing
and have everything.
Because obviously the order you get,
the more possibilities there are of certain conditions.
For sure.
Okay.
And stuff.
So I think it's the smart way to go,
unless we just act like,
somehow accidentally got pregnant.
That's what I met.
Like you got these embryos on ice and you're like,
just come inside me,
Remain.
Let's do it.
It's like,
I feel it's a lot cheaper.
I was like,
we can save 50 grand and I'm all about saving money.
But the thought did go through my head.
And I'm like,
no,
if we're going to do it,
let's do it right.
So,
but people say that that's when you,
like,
you hear that all the time
that someone paid all this money,
they froze their eggs,
they froze their embryos.
And then they just like,
it happened.
Anyway,
whatever happened.
Well,
if,
if I'm in a,
us next month that I'm Mary's pregnant.
We're going to know.
We're going to drop you.
I'm not used to Ashley yelling, just come inside of me.
That's usually my role on the podcast.
To come talk and screaming, just come inside of me.
But I have an IUD, just so everybody knows.
You can come inside of me if you want.
Oh, my gosh.
But I went to look at getting just eggs frozen just to like go through the process and see
what it is.
It's really intense.
It is a lot of hormones.
So good for you for doing it.
And I know it's really intensive and expensive.
So good for you.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, if it were up to me,
I don't think personally I really care about having another kid.
I mean, but I think a lot of that might be fear and just kind of like my experience before,
how difficult it was.
So I keep trying to talk myself down and rationalize, okay, this is a completely different situation.
I have a loving husband.
He's going to be a loving father and we have money and we're okay.
It's going to be a whole different situation.
I can have a need to help so I don't have to stop working.
And we can be there for the important part.
and have help during just the chaos of it.
So we can be present for our kids and not just exhausted by the mundane tasks of every day
with kids.
I love that you're honest about that.
I really love that you said that because it's like this thing that you went through that
was so difficult and like having to do the self-talk of like it's totally different.
It's absolutely not the same what you went through back then.
It's obviously going to stick with you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It does. I should probably have some therapy for it.
But it's, you know, I mean, I wouldn't change it.
And I can, if I, if I slow myself down and really try to rationalize like the whole situation,
I know it would be different.
And then also I just, I love remaining so much.
I wouldn't want to take that experience away from him.
It's just not fair because he does want to have a family.
So we just saw you like really manage like a very toxic friendship over the last like few
seasons. And we love talking about friendships on this show. So you don't have to get too personal
what happened there if you don't want to. But you were super close to somebody that was on the show.
And then it turned really toxic and just sort of watching you navigate that was really interesting.
Because I think we've all had those kind of friendships in their lives. I certainly have
where you like love somebody so much. And there are so many good experiences between the two of you.
And you have this history where you're like, I know you all think this about this person,
but they have a good heart. And I've seen this good thing in them. And that it slowly falls apart.
and it's hard to know when to walk away and how to walk away,
especially when you have the same friend group.
Yeah, you work together.
Yeah.
Yeah, and you have the world chiming in and giving their opinions too,
like throughout the whole thing.
You know, I feel like I give everybody a lot of chances.
Like, when I love someone, I just, I love them.
And I probably let that go on for way too long
because I just kept thinking back to to a time where things,
it was something different.
And even though in my gut, I knew things had changed and I just needed to walk away,
it was very, very difficult for me to do that.
I kept thinking I could help or I could make a difference.
And obviously that's not the case.
And sometimes you just, people change.
And that's life, you know, you grow into different people and you're not meant to be in
each other's lives anymore.
And that's okay.
I think it happens for a lot of people.
It's just not shown like a,
Every aspect of it isn't blasted out to the world.
So, you know, you kind of move on and you have other friends.
And some of the people aren't really in the office anymore
and they're not really friends with all the same people anymore.
So it's been, it hasn't been that difficult for a while.
But I think as a manager, having to try to deal with things,
then that made it more difficult.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, also, yeah, that position on top of it.
I mean, I feel like you are this person.
that like wants to see the best
and everybody and you're loyal
and like you said,
you're like, I love somebody.
I'm like gonna try my hardest.
You know, you just don't,
you seem like you're,
you don't just throw people away.
And I think you've tried as hard as you could.
I felt like I have.
Yeah, yeah, we watched it.
We were like,
Mary, oh my God.
You're just like so quiet.
Walk away.
Walk away. Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you spend a lot of time with everybody
outside the show or a few people?
Like, who are you?
Most people, yeah.
Okay.
A lot of people.
Yeah.
Amanda, obviously. Amanda, Jason, Brett, Heather. She and I are really close now.
Chrisel, Emma. Obviously, my husband. Yeah. Most of us, yeah. I mean, I hope I didn't just forget somebody.
Seriously. I've done that with Amanda before. She's like, are you kidding me? And I was like, you're a given. I was like, yeah. I was a friend of 20 years. I don't feel like I have to say you're one of my best friends. Of course you're my best friend. You're like the best friend. We loved your guys's friendship so much.
much. Like when she came along, I felt like that was like the best addition to the show and just
amazing. She's amazing. Rain and I just both like, like, we don't even like the tense, toxic
fights as much as we just really like the friendship moments on the show. Yeah. See, there's so much
fun. We do so much. Like, we always laugh. We're like, if they could film this, I think
people would be so into, okay, you don't, like, they don't need the drama because we're like,
I think things are even funnier when we're just like all hanging out and things happen. I think
it's more positive. I would love it to be like that.
Yeah, we talk about it.
We talk about every season.
Every season we're like, why can't we see more?
I would love to see more about Amanza and her kids.
We love to see Chris Shell's journey with her fertility the season also.
And just your friendships seem so nice and genuine.
I'm obsessed with Emma.
Like,
I'm obsessed with her as like in addition to the show.
I just love to see you guys like gassing each other up and being friends.
Other things we can talk about besides like, this person hates me and this person hates each other.
Right.
All right.
Yeah, I've actually got, well, they're at school right now, but I have Amanda's kids
right now this week.
I love it.
Yeah, she's out of town.
So I'm spending time with my little
kind of niece and nephew.
Yeah.
They call me Auntie Mary and Uncle Lettuce.
That's what they call, Romney.
Yeah.
Okay, so we have like a buncher at my fire to questions.
One person asked you ever call him Romaine Lettuce.
And I was, I deleted it from the outline because I was like,
no one does that.
That's so funny.
Yeah, the kids, they call him Uncle Lettuce.
It's so cute.
I have a question for you.
it came up, but I want to talk about the fashion on the show. Do you have a stylist or do you style yourself?
Where do you pick out all of your looks? I don't have a stylist for everyday like stuff.
Like in the office, if we go to events, then yeah, I'll get a stylist for like red carpet things or to whatever parties.
Like so, but just on a normal day now. Most of us just do it ourselves. There's a couple people that have a stylist, but.
Okay. Okay. Yeah. I just got to work so I'm like, yeah, we're like, you guys can probably guess.
have you ever hooked up in one of your listings?
Oh my God.
You know what?
I should never, never admit to this.
It was a really long time ago.
When I first started in real estate, I may have.
It was way too professional now.
I never would now.
Yeah, you didn't say anything.
We said it.
Was it in the bedroom or the kitchen?
Oh, my God, right now.
You're too professional.
I'm not, yeah.
I'm going to believe it.
Okay.
No, I would never do it in someone's back.
Oh my God, no.
Never in someone's back.
That would be way.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
No, it was in the bathroom.
Okay.
You're like that in the bathroom.
You're less like to mess up.
You can just rip these things and walk out the door.
You're not messing up a bed.
I don't know why I open up so much.
I'm like, why do I save these things?
I just like, we love it.
What?
This is what people want.
People asked about you and Jason.
I mean, I just feel like it's too mature adults that dated at one point.
And I mean, was there ever any weird transition from dating to friend and working together?
Okay, there was.
There was.
I think it's the same thing that people are seeing with him and Chris L.
right now where you just have to have time, like maybe six months or so, I think is a fair amount of time to just heal.
And get graphs on what the new relationship looks like and kind of heal enough to be able to see the person with someone.
with someone else because that's that's tough.
We're all such good friends,
we hang out all the time.
So I think a lot of times,
you know,
people want to go on a date
to try to get their mind off of it.
But then when you're,
they're doing it right in front of you,
you're like,
okay, asshole.
Like, I mean,
so you have to, like, take that time,
like, to just figure out things for yourself.
Both sides need to do that.
And then it's easy because Jason's such a great guy.
And for the two of us,
like,
I always knew he was supposed to be in my life.
and my sister, like, did not understand her.
She's like, he hurt, like, he's hurt you.
Like, you're crying.
Like, why would you want him around?
I'm like, I don't know.
He's supposed to be in my life, like, just as friends or whatever.
I was like, I just, I know this.
And it is.
Like, he's one of my very best friends.
And we have a better relationship now.
I wouldn't trade it for the world.
It's even weird to think of them.
Like, as a boyfriend, I'm like, oh, stuff.
Ew, yeah, yeah.
I mean, but we're all just family.
He's like my brother.
That is so funny how things evolve.
I have a best friend that I also slept with.
And now I look back six, seven years ago, I used to cry over him.
And I'm like, I cannot believe that I cried about you.
Yeah.
Like, you're the wrong partner for me also.
Like, you're not the right match.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, something is just like, you know, there's a reason why you were attracted to each other.
There was like something there, which you can still love about the person and, and respect about
the person and be friends because of that connection, but doesn't have to be like a match in a romantic
relationship.
When did you guys date, like, way before?
the show, right? Why am I like...
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But way before the show.
Like years, years, like years before the show.
Probably, I don't even...
I'm so bad at a time, but probably four years before the show.
Okay, yeah. So, I mean, was it...
Was it even, like, between this, between the breakup and the friendship, was it years or, like, months?
I mean...
It was about six months, I think that after we, like, broke up...
I mean, there was, like, a transition period, like, where, you know, he broke up,
but then we would still, like, go out and it was, like, a back and forth kind of thing.
and then it just kind of faded out.
I would say about six months after that
and we were just able to become like super, super good friends
where there was like no romantic thing going on whatsoever.
And we didn't even look at each other that way, really.
I love to say it.
I think people like, like you said, probably say that to like a friend or a family member.
Like I just feel like they're supposed to be in my life
and your friend or family member is like, what the fuck?
Like, you know, but if you feel that feeling and it's not like they did something terrible,
it didn't work out, even if you got hurt.
We're in different places.
Yeah, it's like he wasn't able to commit, but was like very loving.
And still, we have like a very special connection where if one of us gets stressed out,
it's like we have the ability to just calm each other down immediately.
We're like, come here.
And so like I just like give each other a hug.
And it's like you can almost feel like our breath just like go.
Okay.
And we're just calm.
We're like, okay, thank you.
And then we're good.
But there's just like this calming effect.
I don't, it's hard to explain.
They're like each other's safe space.
kind of.
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, I guess so.
Yeah, it's like we always have each other's back
and he's always been there for Romaine and me.
If Remain and I get in a fight,
I know where to look for him.
He's over at Jason's house.
Like, Jason, we send my husband home.
Yeah.
I love it.
So interesting, the dynamic.
It is like they were in a wedding.
I feel you know as much value.
It's so embarrassing.
Was it, I guess, weird, it's not the right word,
but, you know, so he dated one of your best friends
and you're a married woman, but like, what was it like being like the friend in between?
Was that ever like, please don't talk to me about your relationship?
I love you both so much.
I mean, just in terms of being friends with two people.
No, you know what?
I mean, I have to them hide it for quite a while.
I think the only time where it was, it got a little, I thought they were cute.
I loved them together.
That's true.
I think right after they came like they announced like we were in Greece and we were in, they were very cautious of any public.
affection when we were out like in public or whatever. And so we were in like this
spirovan kind of thing, but the seeds were facing towards each other. And there was only like
over legs, like we're facing each other. But our legs were like almost touching. And so it's like,
we're that close. And then they were so excited to be able to be out and be able to do what
they wanted. They were like making up right in front of me. And it was like their faces were like
right here. And I'm like, I'm like, I mean, this is like too close guys.
That's so funny.
Right in my personal space.
You're like, I feel like I'm back there again.
Yeah, I didn't care.
I love that.
I mean, it's been so long ago.
I, and I love both of them and they were so happy.
I loved it.
Good.
Like broke our hearts.
Yeah, broke our hearts.
Well, Mary, thank you so much for joining us and being so open and honest.
And we just, we love this conversation.
So thank you again.
Of course.
Thank you guys so much for having me.
Yes.
and we will hopefully see you out in LA.
You can help us find a house in January.
Yeah, come by the office next time you're there.
Definitely.
Yeah, we will.
We'll tell everyone where they can find you.
You have anything you want to promote, your Instagram,
whatever you want.
Tell our audience.
Your listing.
Yeah, sure.
I've got some coming up so soon.
The Mary Fitzgerald on Instagram, TikTok.
So the Mary Fitzgerald.
Awesome.
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