Girls Know Nothing - 42: Bronte King | Girls Who Graduate, Top Uk Content Creator & Foot Fetish

Episode Date: November 29, 2023

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somewhere I feel like everyone has a foot page do you have a foot page I don't know I don't want to know I think sometimes ignorance is bliss but I actually do want to know if I'm on wiki feet I think after this I actually will do yeah I think that's what the first thing I'm gonna look at later today yeah hi I've just met you and I started talking about my feet. Like, great. What is my life? Welcome to my studio. I'm an oversharer. Welcome back to another episode of Girls Know Nothing. Today's guest is a British travel and lifestyle content creator who followed in her sister's footsteps, accumulating over 64,000 followers on Instagram and over 560,000 likes on TikTok. Bronte King has partnered with brands

including Volvic, Vinted, Shreddy and National Rail and is also the founder of Gals Who Graduate. Gals Who Graduate is an online network of female students and graduates and the brand held its first live event in collaboration with GradFuel in 2022 and has since hosted trips for girls who graduate in Bali. So welcome to the studio Bronte. I feel like you are like an OG content creator maybe that's just in my head because I've like back in the day I've always remembered girls who graduate for like I think eight years how old is it? Well it's four years old. Okay. It could be eight years. If you want it to be eight years, it's eight years. Maybe I'm just losing track of time.

It does feel like eight years. I started it the day I left university. Okay. That was four years ago, which actually makes me feel so old. Like the fact that I finished university four years ago. I never thought I'd say that. I never thought I'd finish university, let alone four years later. So I literally started it.

I was literally lugging my bags up my my family's like staircase moving back home and I was like oh my god what am I doing I was like I do not want adult life I just loved uni so much I didn't know what I wanted to do I had no job I had no money I had no student loan and I was like I don't know what to do oh my god okay so what did you study at uni film and television but you didn't decide to try and find a film and television job for after I just didn't know what I was doing I didn't know where to look I didn't know where to start I just I feel like there actually was no help at uni I just I honestly was like what do I even do I probably need to go and apply for jobs but I

don't know how I don't know what's best to do I need to get my CV looking nice I just honestly was just a bit like and I think when you finish uni it's a bit of like shell shock it's a bit like I've done all of that work my dissertation everything I've had the best time you've like celebrate with your friends after and then it's kind of just like silence it's just yeah they kind of just like wave you off yeah and it's like you had to learn to like cook clean live by yourself like get pushed out into this life and then you suddenly pop back out the other end and it's you're living back with your family you don't have a job you're back where you started I can imagine it's quite because I didn't do the traditional route so I can imagine like when you go back home yeah you feel like all the freedom

that you've learned yeah to have and your mom's like from you well what when what time are you having dinner what do you want for dinner and I'm like oh that's so kind of you but I just don't know I'm going out with the girls I don't know what time I'll be back don't know if I want dinner so is that was that the main motivation for starting yeah and also I think I just like looked at my friends that I'd already finished uni and they were just like that like post-university depression is like the it's real like it's it's crazy how people like low people drop after university because of the high of it and like they're like living with your best friends like having a purpose having a meaning like you're there to learn you're there to study and get a degree and then suddenly you just are meant to go and find a job and just get on with

it and find money and live live in London get a job in London and that's kind of like the thing to do but how are you meant to do that when you leave uni if there's no support there's nothing to guide you that way and yeah it's crazy honestly when I was talking to my friends I had such a low that year after uni so why is no one talking about this it's I find it really bizarre that you said that you don't get any help and support to find a job yeah well I personally didn't I just felt like yeah there's there's LinkedIn there's you can go and find jobs online you can type in like there's graduate recruitment companies all of that but I would go to careers fairs and I'd walk away with like a pen and I'd be like I don't know what I want to do it'd scare me even more I'd be like just you talk to people they'd be like oh come and do our apprenticeship you're like

it feels like there's a lot there is a lot of support out there but there's not the right support there's not it doesn't feel like there's accessible support like it doesn't feel like there's very like gen z support that's what I felt just didn't feel very accessible so how come you decided to kind of make a niche in girls that graduate instead of just anyone that graduates I feel like my so I had a following on Instagram when I was at uni but not not much I think it was like 10k and I wanted to always build into something that could help people but I never knew what I never knew what I wanted to do with it and I think it was a high percentage of it was a high percentage of female following I think it was like 85% or

something like that and I was like sure I connect with girls so well like I get on with all the girls that I meet on from Instagram on Instagram so well and I think I just I was on the phone to my sister I want to start a support network for girls I've just graduated who are just feeling the same as I am but I don't know what to do and then we were like running through names and I was like you know what let's do girls who graduate and it started like a closed Facebook group and I think just having like girls supporting girls there's nothing more powerful than that like all of us coming together and being like yeah I feel shit I don't have a job I don't want to live back at home I don't all my friends are now living in their like

hometowns all over the country and yeah it just felt it just felt like it was like a really powerful like form of a support network I think sometimes you feel better about the situation you're in or how you feel if you know that you're not the only person that's going through it yeah and I can imagine like Facebook groups were I rarely use Facebook and I go into Facebook for Facebook groups same yeah but I only use it for that I know that you like started transitioning from Facebook to Instagram and then now it's more like an open forum for resources like how did that transition happen I think we I started the Facebook group was the first thing and I was I always was reluctant to start an Instagram page because I wanted it to be like a close like like a group chat that you had to like be accepted into enter like we had

to check you were a girl that's graduated and like you're there to like talk about the right things so I think putting it on like an open Instagram page it was a bit felt a bit like vulnerable and it felt a bit like oh do we really want to like put the information that we can talk about on the closed facebook group on instagram but then like using resources like stuff like how to how to find a job like how to rent in london all of that was good to put out there for like for it to be shareable for girls to access it easily um and also we started events for girls like to make friends and like to feel like they weren't alone and we shared those on instagram so i think it just was like a like a natural transition so what was it like to host the first girls who graduate event it was amazing it was crazy because I'd only ever seen

like hosting events from like a creative point of view I'd never seen like anyone and everyone want can turn up to an event so I made it like a creator event. There were goodie bags. There was like free food. There was like neon signs. There was so much going on at the event that it felt like you were at like an influencer event. And I loved it. I love the idea of putting on events.

Like I love making, I'm like such, when my friends come around for dinner, I'm like hostess with the mostess. I'll lay out like a whole spread. They'll get like personalized glasses and everything. So I was like so ready for it. I was so ready for the event. And it was amazing was 75 girls it was sponsored by super drug and it was

it was honestly just so lovely to meet the people that i've been like connecting with on the facebook group in person hi i'm richard karn and you may have seen me on tv talking about the world's number one expandable garden hose well the brand new brand new Pocket Hose Copperhead with Pocket Pivot is here, and it's a total game changer. Old-fashioned hoses get kinks and creases at the spigot, but the Copperhead's Pocket Pivot swivels 360 degrees for full water flow and freedom to water with ease all around your home. When you're all done, this rust-proof anti-burst hose shrinks back down to pocket size for effortless handling and tidy storage. Plus, your super light and ultra durable pocket hose Copperhead is backed with a 10-year warranty. What could be better than that?

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the franchise no it's like you have so because the girls in the other room were like oh my god i know bronte from this or from this and like you've got so many different avenues so how did they all come about I think that like the different subgroups have grown with the community so when the girls have been like it's kind of girls who graduate has like evolved as my life has evolved so when I started renting in London when I moved from home to London I started girls who rent and we talked all about like the renting market like what you should be saying to landlords what you should be saying to estate agents and like guiding girls through that also finding housemates like girls when you move to London it's like who do I live with I want to live with people that are safe that like-minded

yeah and it's like all my friends from school now live with girls from Girls Who Rent like that's how they found their housemates it's so lovely well like that's the most thing someone will come up to me and say I met my housemates who girls who rent so I think that's it's a really powerful subgroup that one and then we have girls who travel which evolved as well with my life I started traveling started posting my travels so I wanted to start a travel page girls who date when I was dating I went through a breakup and I started girls who date and I spoke about all my breakup on there I literally have like a breakup bible on there of when I was dating I went through a breakup and I started girls who date and I spoke about all my breakup on there I literally have like a breakup bible on there of when I was going through my breakup just like typing out everything guys who sweat which is like workouts we do workout

classes in London we host events with them and then girls who read and that's like a book club and girls yeah they talk all about what they're reading and their favorite reads so why was it important for you to have all of these like subgroups? I think it's like finding a space for girls to feel like welcome and like, like they have a purpose and like a reason for them to, it's like, I don't know, all your friends, you have the same thing in common. And if you don't have friends that have the same thing in common, you can literally go online and be like, I love reading. I'm going to go on there. There's 300,000 girls that love reading on that. I'm going to find a new friend. And it's just, it's a sense of's a sense of like yeah sense of purpose and meaning and and like connecting with like-minded girls i think it's actually really nice because obviously for example like traveling not everyone can do it

because everyone has different personal circumstances and i feel like a lot of the time i'm not doing things that i want to do because i don't have someone to do them with yeah so like is i think it's really nice to be able to go and find. Because this is scary. Oh yeah. World out there. There are a lot of weirdos.

Yeah. One of the main reasons I've done it is for like safety with female traveling because it's so scary getting on a plane by yourself to the other side of the world, entering a country you've never been to. Even trying to find a taxi at the airport is scary when you land.

Let alone like having to like travel a whole country by yourself so I love the fact that girls know they're getting on a flight that it is a form of solo traveling so it's a massive thing that they're doing it's still so brave to get on that flight and travel with 25 girls that you've never met yeah for 10 days because you took girls to Bali yes recently yes so what was that like so we've had that was our ninth bali trip which is crazy oh my god i know and every time i'm on them i'm like how is this i know i see them like they tag us and they like we have group chats i see it all on there but when i'm actually there i'm like these girls are here because of girls who travel it's just crazy and i see the bond from like the beginning when they're strangers and they've all just got off a

flight they've literally in the middle of nowhere never been to the country on a different time zone and they're like trying to meet everyone jet lagged to like the end where they're like I've made a best friend for life like crying because they're saying goodbye and it's just like that bond that you make when you're traveling with someone is so different like you'll never have that bond with anyone else and it's just so special to see honestly it must be really nice for you to know that you've had like an impact like that on somebody's life it's crazy honestly it's it's mad and then we we I went from Bali flew over to the Philippines and we launched our Philippines trip out there which is amazing so how did you travel um transition from all of these like online groups to now being able to do those

in-person experiences I think I like put the feelers out there. I always ask on like on the community, like on Facebook, on Instagram, like what they want from the community. So if they want to travel, if they want, like I say, where do you want to go next? And like, they'll look at the main responses and make it happen. Like the girls were like, we want to do a Bali trip. And they've said that since I first ever started Guelph to graduate. And then two years, four years later, we now have them running monthly where they can book on so I think listening

to the community and listening to what they want and like catering to what they want is like the only way you can go is that how like things like

Gals Who Sweat started yeah so we started I did Couch to 5k on Gals Who Graduate Instagram stories during lockdown

because I was like honestly what are we going to do with this time? So I just started running like everyone else. Yeah, banana bread and running. Banana bread and running. My dad was like, no, you did 5K to couch. Like literally, I was a runner.

And then I decided I was just going to sit on this over all day. But I did that. And I think we did live workouts on the girls who graduate Instagram page, like everyone else did. And I just really enjoyed it. And I was like, let's the girls who graduate instagram page like everyone else did um and i just really enjoyed it and i was like let's start girls who sweat and then everyone that doesn't want to listen to all the time when girls who graduate can come over to girls who sweat and just do that so we did a um 50 girls spin cycle class a couple of months ago and that was so fun

like the energy in the room with 50 girls honest on a bike it was great honestly everyone's just sweating laughing like it was so fun so good I think it's nice to have go to a different type of event because you always think you oh I took makeup on yeah I have to be like really glamorous and take your Instagram picture and stuff and sometimes it's nice to just be and you're in a dark room so no one's looking at you it's like flashing lights is in cycle the spin studio oh yeah and um it was just great energy. We all left like, wow. And it was like a Wednesday evening.

You felt like, oh, I feel like sometimes with classes, like workout classes, you're like, I don't really want to go. It's a bit intimidating. Like, I don't feel like I'll know what I'm doing. But coming to like a Galaxy of Sweat class, no one knows what they're doing. So you're all in the same boat. I think gym spaces can sometimes feel quite intimidating. Oh, 100%.

Especially like the male dominated gyms. Yeah. Especially if you're not comfortable. The weight section, even now walking in there, I'm like, and I like, I know what I'm doing with the weight, but I still look at people, men and I'm like, they just, there's so much testosterone in there. Honestly. Mine smells like Lynx Africa. Oh. So that's the only thing that puts me off like the smell of links after you wouldn't get that in a gals session absolutely not no maybe like charlie or what's that yeah girls version so fragrant yeah it's like a massive throwback but yeah you started off as a lifestyle and travel influencer yes because your sister yes was an influencer so is that kind of

like what pursued you and started making content kind of I was like her behind the scenes like I said to her that Instagram kind of there was this Instagram like app everyone was talking about it and I was like Ches I think you should start she was a presenter I think you should start posting your presenting on this app called Instagram and she did and it it took off and I loved seeing the behind the scenes of that I'd always be like right Jess let's shoot this and I'd like really get involved with what she was doing and I loved watching her like just grow and grow and grow and I remember she got to like 50k and it that was unheard of and we were like oh my god let me

throw a massive party for her and I think I just loved the whole the whole behind the scenes of it I never thought I would be actually in front of the camera like I did internships and work experience during university at PR companies and like talent agencies because I just loved that whole like what actually goes into it behind the camera um and then I think we just we do so much together and she's literally my best friend that she was posting me all the time so then people were coming over to my page and it just it just kind of evolved from there I wish my I wish my brother listens and then like gets as excited about helping me do stuff as like you did about your sister because my brother's like oh really yeah oh don't worry sometimes I have to pass the phone to my brother and he's like yeah they just don't and

it's all blurry yeah half the time he's using the wrong camera yeah yeah no I was literally like I think I bought a camera so I could take photos of my sister for her campaigns. I was so excited. Need more supportive siblings like that. So funny. Yeah, she's great. Do you prefer doing the behind the scenes stuff or actually like making the content yourself? Because they're two very different roles. Very different. I really enjoy both of it. And I think Girls Who Travel and Girls Who Graduate gives me that chance to do the behind the scenes because I create all the content for Girls Who Travel. I like now do part of Girls Who Graduate content

and like oversee it all. But I just love creating all of that and like creating stories behind all the reels, like creating all the content when I'm on the trips. And so I love that I now get that chance to do both sides of things. I was going to say, how do you manage your time? I don't know.

I don't know. Because Girls Who Graduate has got a lot of content every day. So I was thinking, oh my God. Oh, I have a social media manager for Girls Who Graduate. I had a piece of advice from Grace, who is Stephen Bartlett's social media manager. And she was so supportive of Girls Who Graduate. She's always been there on the sidelines supporting. And she said to me, Bronte, I'm going to give you one piece of advice. Please

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Like, Gals Who graduate Instagram, I look at it and I'm like, wow, look at that. And I don't know, I pay someone to do it do it it's great because i was just running out of like just it's not your brain is only can only like have that much space in and to be able to do girls who travel my campaigns tiktok girls who graduate guys who date guys all of that so it was the best move hiring someone and getting someone in for that how do you manage your time though when you have all of these like competing priorities I sit down like every morning or every evening and I write myself a big to-do list and I I'm such a Virgo I love ticking it off I even put like wake up I tick I have an app for that really

yeah and I like time block every single okay maybe I'm not that maybe I'm not I time block everything like walking the dog shower wow and I just put on notes page and I'm not that intense. I time block everything. Oh my God. Like walking the dog, shower. Wow. And I tick it off. I just put it on notes page and I'm like, okay, yeah, bullet point sick. I really like the self-satisfaction, like the instant gratification of ticking stuff off. Yeah. I mean, I've also like now got a few more girls on freelance to help me out with stuff on Gals Who, which has really helped.

And being able to just know, even though it's like my like baby and I'm like, I don't want to give it over to anyone. Know that actually it's just going to benefit it. And like you can oversee everything. You don't have to just let it go and everyone else do it. But just, yeah, telling myself that I can give other responsibilities out to other people, not just take it all on myself. But how do you know when you're ready to do that? Or like how do you get yourself ready to do that?

I think when you're just like, I've got, it's just too much. I was just looking at everything and I was like, I'm going to have to sacrifice something because there there's just too much going on and also like if you have too many things on the go and you're doing it then they're not all going to be very good because you're giving little too much like not enough time to each one yeah um so like my main focus for the past year has been Galaxy Travel and just growing that and just getting to the point where all these trips can happen without me having to be on them and without having to advertise them the whole time they can just it can just scale up and run itself so what strategies do you use to be able to grow yourself and the gals who brand on socials i think making sure that it has its like

sticks to its core value of the community and not losing that not trying to sell the community stuff the whole time and be like guys you should book on this you should buy this you should swipe up all of this just like hosting events where we host events. We're now trying to do the monthly in London or around the UK where we don't make anything. We actually like lose money on it. But like having that as like the core value of why I started Girls Who Graduate

and knowing that we're keeping that community going where girls can still enjoy Girls Who Graduate without having to pay to be part of it or having to pay to go on a trip or I don't know just not not trying to oversell it and push it too much for people to have to spend money on just have it as its core value of a community because I think sometimes it's really hard when I've noticed people say about certain like content creators when everything everything is an ad yeah and it's like where and how do you keep your authenticity yeah oh keeping the authenticity authenticity with girls who graduate especially

like I know the girls who graduate community so well that I'm so cautious of what brands what companies what anyone that we partner with I'm I'm really like by the way we can't say this we can't do this oh I don't want to sell them that and I don't want to do that because I know that the girls who graduate community respond well to this and respond well to that and I I'm really careful of like what values each company have and what morals everyone has when they're coming into work with girls who graduate so what advice would you give to any aspiring female content creators that are trying to like either find a way to get started or find a way to grow I think you need to find what your like passion is because like my passion was supporting girls going through that time of life and it still is and it's translated into girls

who travel and girls who date and girls who sweat and all of that and go from that and don't try and do something that anyone else is doing like you don't think oh actually I don't know I'm trying to think of an example where you see something online and you think I'm like I'd love to do that but you need to create your own identity your own reason your own passion your own like motivation behind all of the content that you're creating otherwise you'll do it for like a month and then be like I don't know I don't know what else to do I haven't got anything left to show did you ever want to like just give up were there like periods you're like so to graduate yeah definitely there's been times where I've been like right you know what I think I've reached my expiry day as a graduate I'm I'm I'm four years out never never

I'm still talking about like going to uni and like freshers and I love it because it was such a big part of my life um but I think just like when I when I've been like oh I'm not sure like I can talk about it anymore I'm not sure I'm relatable with that anymore. I like find ways to change it up, like starting Gals Who Travel, Gals Who Date, Gals Who Sweat. Like all these subgroups have evolved as I've evolved. And that's what's kept me going with wanting to keep the community going. What do you think is your biggest achievement since you started Gals Who?

I honestly think having that first Gals Who Travel trip, having, we had 120 girls in Bali at the same time that was a hell of a lot of responsibility I know they were all on four different trips so they weren't all in one trip oh my god no imagine like going around the temples like come on everyone 120 girls no um there was it was four different trips I was hopping on each of there were three days apart and I was going from each one to and I was just like how are all these girls here because of like these girls here because of, like these girls have got on a plane, booked a flight,

got on a plane to the other side of the world with strangers and are all sitting the other side of the world in Bali because of Girls Who. And I couldn't get my head, I still can't get my head around it. But I was just like, that is, for me, that was like a massive achievement and something that I'd wanted to do since I started the community. It was just amazing. What do you think could be like,

what are the next like big milestones you want girls who to achieve so we've got our second female diversity careers fair and I love that I just I love like so for me one of the reasons why I started it was because when I went to a careers fair all I left with was a pen and like the idea of I didn't even know what I wanted to do more than when I stepped in so I wanted to create a space for girls to like be so passionate about go to a careers fair and leave being like oh idea of I didn't even know what I wanted to do more than when I stepped in. So I wanted to create a space for girls to like be so passionate about, go to a careers fair and leave being like, oh my God, I met this person. I really want to do this.

Or that was so cool. I've now found this new job that I didn't even know existed. And I want to do this. I want girls to like feel so motivated about their career path and be like, this is what I want to do. Love this, felt so motivated and felt so welcomed and relaxed there rather than go in and be like, I've got to talk to this person. motivated and felt so welcomed and relaxed there rather than go in and be like I've got to talk to this person probably need to sign this form probably need

to sign up to that and then go back and tell my parents that I've done that just like take it off I want them to go back oh my god I just had this amazing experience I feel so passionate and I just like I wanted to be an accessible way of girls finding jobs that they love and like career paths that they didn't even know existed I always I remember when I was younger and I was starting out in my career and I wish that I'd kind of just put myself out in the comfort zone like networking sounds awful yeah especially if you're not comfortable and confident but it's actually it's bad to say but a lot of the time when you get opportunities because you know someone or someone's like oh I know somebody who'd be really good for that and like put you

forward for it definitely like just taking yourself out of that comfort zone and taking yourself to an event everyone else is also yeah shit scared to be there so oh definitely networking is such a big thing the amount of girls I've met from girls who and they've got me so much like I mean most of the companies that come on our careers fairs are because girls from girls who graduate community work there and have been like their colleagues please can we go to this careers fair I follow this page and I think it'd be really good to have you there and that's because of girls who graduate community I know and I wouldn't have had that connection if it wasn't for that how do you balance the demand like we were

talking earlier about trying to balance you girls who like all your meetings and all your competing priorities how do you balance all of the different aspects of who bronte is i'm not gonna lie i haven't i haven't quite got that far yet i haven't completed it i'm not gonna pretend i have um i i think i'm really set on when i wake up i spit my day and i'm like right right, this morning is going to be Gal2, Gal2 Travel, Gal2 Read, Gal2, whatever it is. This afternoon, I'm going to film all my campaigns. And then in the evening, I'll create like organic content for Gal2 Travel. Like I really am like, right, let's stop because I'm so bad at opening an app being like, oh yeah, I'll get this done. And then seeing something else, it's distracting me. Oh, I'll just reply to that email. And then

I haven't even completed that. So I'm learning to be on one task and just think no I can do that once I finish this task but I'm still in the process of learning I think that's all part of being self-employed and like running a business like you just have to find your like priorities and boundaries and everything like that when how do you set your boundaries because you know I've been self-employed for a couple of years but I don't know where my boundaries are I'm I've noticed after lockdown that I was spending too much time on my phone and my phone is my job yeah and when I'm on my phone I'm obviously working you're justifying being on your phone yeah and I'm working and but it's like 8 p.m on a Sunday and I'm like you shouldn't be replying to dms so I'm really strict now with like

I'll at 6 p.m now. And I live with my boyfriend who has like an office job who works, like he closes a laptop and that's it for the evening. I'm like that. I'm like, okay, 6pm. Yeah. Dinner time, no more work. And I really set myself like that strict time off and weekends. I'll try and not work as well, unless I've got something in the week that I'm going to miss, but really setting myself that time of you need to have time off and you need to just like, yeah, put that phone down and delete the apps. job posts seen on other job sites. With Indeed Sponsored Jobs, your post jumps to the top of the page for your relevant candidates, so you can reach the people you want faster. According to Indeed data, sponsored jobs posted directly on Indeed have 45% more applications

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it was like it was like 4 p.m great it's out of charge can't work anymore but imagine 10 a.m you're not halfway through my dinosaur laptop it probably would be like 10 a.m. It's out of charge, can't work anymore. But imagine 10am, you're not halfway through. My dinosaur laptop, it probably would be. Like 10am, I'm done for the day. I don't think anybody would appreciate, I'd be really angry with myself. Maybe it's not the best piece of advice, but the thoughts there.

Yeah, the thoughts there. I like it. When my phone runs out of battery, that's when I'm like, okay, stop. Stop. Yeah. I don't think my phone's ever run out of battery.

I'm like, plug it in. I've always got like a battery pack or something. It's like 50% and I'm like,'s ever run out of battery yeah plug it in I've always got like a battery pack it's like 50% and I'm like it's running out of battery I'm the same though I'm the same and like I always try and justify it to people being like well I work on my phone yeah so my screen time's high because I work it's awful I really like I just pretend I haven't seen the notification and I wish I was that person that woke up and didn't check their phone and just got up and like wrote their their phone and just got up and like wrote their gratifications. But the first thing I do is reach for my phone in the morning.

But do people that say they do that actually do that? I know. And people like say, charge your phone outside your room. And I'm like, oh. Because my alarm clock's on my phone. And then I find the alarm clock and I'm like, oh. No, see, just waste of money. You know, with all the like things things all the networks you've created to like

support women what do you think are the issues or topics that are really crucial for people to be talking about and that aren't really being addressed I think one of the main things I found is loneliness after university you're like moving home. You lived with friends, you were surrounded by them, you could socialize all the time. And then you go back to living with your family and all your friends have either moved abroad, traveling, they live in Manchester, you live in London, and it's not as easy to see them. And it's just, it is lonely. And I think getting used to the working life and like commuting to work and all of that, it's, it's such a different lifestyle. And so many girls say it's so hard to make friends in your twenties. Like they find it really hard. And so then they just feel like, well, that's it. I'm

not going to make any more friends. And they, they are really lonely. So I have found that a lot on the closed Facebook group. Girls just saying like, does anybody just feel so like just lost and lonely? I think another thing is they feel really lost. And I found this with like close friends as well in their career path. They just, they just don't, there isn't, like they get a job after university, great.

Got a job in London, commuting in, family are like, wow, they're doing really well. They've got a job in London. And then it gets a year in and they're like, I don't actually want to do this can relate yeah this is not actually what I want to be doing why am I doing this I think I get so many dms from young girls or young women that are like really worried about not being able to keep hold of their school friends because they're so worried about not being able to make friends as adults and I think that's really heartbreaking

because you shouldn't fall like you it's okay to outgrow people. It's perfectly, it's a perfectly natural part of becoming an adult, becoming who you are. And I think you're doing yourself a disservice by clinging onto things that don't serve you anymore. And I do think your first friendship breakup is like, it's a weird feeling. It's like, is this really happening?

Like surely, but they're my friend. They're not a boyfriend. So why am I breaking up with them? Why are we going through this like breakup, but we're friends? And I remember my first like female friendship breakup and I was like, this is so sad. Like this is so weird,

but you do just outgrow people and you realize who is right for you and what serves you and what doesn't. I think people don't consider it to be like a breakup. And I think people, like when you realize it is like a breakup, then you'll accept how you feel about it. I think it's, I think people don't consider it to be like a breakup and I think people, like when you realise it is like a breakup then you'll accept

how you feel about it. I think they're harder. Yeah. I look back on photos of me and like my friends and I'm like, oh God.

Yeah, no it is. I think it's even harder to have like a friendship breakup than to have like a romantic breakup because you're kind of just like, oh,

plenty more fish in the sea. But it does happen a lot in your 20s because you're going through so much change. Yeah. So much going on in your life that I feel like you just like you get new work friends you get new uni friends you get all of this and it's just it's so hard to make time for everyone when you're trying to like navigate life I think as well you'll probably start seeing it like now your friends are in diff you're going different

paths some of you get married and have children or you'd be like me and you just go out all the time yeah yeah so like they're gonna have different priorities to what you are and then now I'm like okay I need to get friends that maybe don't want children or don't have children see I'm I say this all the time so there's four girls from university that I lived with it's myself and then three others and they all just about to stop living together after us coming out of uni and it's been four years and I'm like guys we have all gone through such different paths like one like one of them's traveling one of them's a DJ one of them's working in an office I'm doing this like I wish we could have in our like third year of uni been like this is like seeing our future and what we're all gonna do because there were so many different paths and it's so weird seeing like like you said like some

friends are like talking about getting married some friends are like talking about moving to Australia to still like go on a gap year and it's such a like weird time of life because you're like am I falling behind am I going too fast like you just can't work out what path you're meant to be on and if you're on the right one if you could if a university Bronte could see the Bronte now do you think you would change the path you were on not at all they'd be like what's going on honestly I left university being like right time to find a job don't know what I'm doing probably gonna live at home for a bit and also girls who graduate didn't start as like a thing that I wanted to make a career out of you just started as like a support network for girls and it still is but it's my full-time job now so I think she'd be like what like how

is girls who grown to this it's crazy I mean I asked you what your goals are long term for girls who but what are your personal goals career-wise long term I I think it's just really building I it is building girls who for myself I love Instagram and I love the platform it's just really building i it is building girls who for myself i love instagram and i love the platform it's given me and i loved all the creativeness with the campaigns and everything but if instagram died tomorrow i'd want to have a job and a career in girls who i'd love to be like still self-employed still doing my thing still owning my business so i think just like educating myself on how to build girls who like talking to the right people networking like just building myself as the founder and like learning more and more as much as I can you got you guys don't have

a book yet do you no we don't have that'd be that'd be fun I could see that being a book or like a like a guide yeah like. Like, when I first graduated, I was like, right, I had all these ideas for girls who graduate. And one of them was girls who graduate survival guide to like graduate. Yeah, I could see that.

But, and it's like, what do you give someone when they graduate? Like, you're like, what present do you give them? And I'd be like, well, the girls who graduate survival guide. I know people that give each other like ends, but I guess if you're into those career furs,

you've probably got enough. I think I had to start giving up bags of pasta when I went to work at a careers event oh that's good yeah yeah I like that got rid of pasta very quickly hungry students yeah that's really good actually I do remember going to one careers fair and dominoes was there and I literally stood in a queue for like 40 minutes just to get a slice everybody does that yeah every career spin the spin the thing and you like get a dominoes piece oh it's great and like they're walking around with like four dominoes goodie bags yeah maybe i need to get dominoes

at the next i actually think maybe that's something you need to do if they're ever listening yeah that'd be dominoes can sponsor a galaxy graduate it's just like university all over at dominoes i'd be so hungover i just order a dominoes every time it was great i think actually i used to go visit an ex-boyfriend at uni and i'm pretty sure the domino's driver would just assume that you're all drunk because it's a uni house and I would get a box of like cookies or pizza and there'd be a slice missing. Eat it. Yeah well I think I hope so I don't really know what else he's done with it. So I remember opening it and be like why is there food missing? No! I mean I never questioned it. Or like one cookie left. Sorry order four. No I've always questioned whether they actually come in cookie left. You might as well order four. No, I always question

whether they actually come in boxes of four because there'd be like two. No. That's so funny. To be fair, I don't blame him. No, I mean, I would too. It's probably raining outside. He's having to deliver your pizza.

He deserves a slice. It wasn't like the peak of England. It was like Lancaster or something. No, I love that. It was cold and dark. I also wouldn't blame them. It was probably another student delivering it as well yeah yeah so they were just getting their money's worth that's so good um if I always ask

my guests the same final question yeah so if you could give your younger self a piece of advice based on your personal and career journey so far what would it be? You just realized your business needed to hire someone yesterday. How can you find amazing candidates fast? Easy. Just use Indeed. Stop struggling to get your job posts seen on other job sites. With Indeed sponsored jobs, your post jumps to the top of the page for your relevant candidates so you can reach the people you want faster. According to Indeed data, sponsored jobs posted directly on Indeed have 45% more applications than non-sponsored jobs. Don't wait any longer. Speed up your hiring right now with Indeed. And listeners of this show will get a $75 sponsored job credit to get your jobs more visibility at indeed.com slash P-O13. Just go to indeed.com slash podkatz13

right now and support our show by saying you heard about Indeed on this podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Hiring Indeed is all you need. History's masterpieces wouldn't be the same without their most notable accents neither with the kia sportage without its multiple drive modes the kia sorento without its expansive 12.3 inch panoramic display or the kia telluride without its three rows of spacious seating the 2025 kia suvs kia movement that inspires call 800-333-4KIA for details. Always drive safely. Limited inventory available. So this is something that I said to myself when I was so scared for my driving test, and I've used it now since then. And it's, I always, I was like,

what if I fail? I'm going to fail my driving test. There's no point in me even doing it. I'm going to fail. And I feel like I've said that to myself so many times during like my career since university, everything, even like university, I'd be like, oh, I'm going to fail this test. I'm going to fail my dissertation, all of this. And I always am like, switch it around. It's like, what if I fail, but what if I succeed? And I feel like switching that round of being like, when you have an idea being like, oh my God, what happens if it's amazing? And it turns out incredible. Then it like motivates you to do it so I'm always like switching whenever my mindset's like oh no what if it doesn't do well or what if I fail then I might

what if it is absolutely incredible it's only a failure is only a waste of time if you don't learn something from it exactly so I know some people that started businesses and then had to close them and then they finally got one yeah took off yeah yeah because they learned so much from those ones that failed yeah so I think that's no that's a really good piece of advice what about what's yours can you give me one I think I always say to people my biggest piece of advice to be on yourself would just be to trust your gut yeah because um no one's ever asked me that question before um to trust your gut because even if you later regret the decision you made there was a reason why you made the decision at that moment in time and it was exactly what you wanted at that moment in time definitely and even if you get older and you're

like regret that or maybe you shouldn't have done that like you learned something from it and it's all part of becoming who you are now so I like that just yeah trust your gut and if it turns out to be a mistake well that's what you wanted to do at the time exactly yeah can't regret it oh my god questions getting flipped on me I was like oh my god that's really on the spot did not expect that I love that though like when I go on a podcast and I was like what's your best advice I'm like what's yours I always like to come away like hearing someone else's advice it's like I'm listening to your podcast I should have prepared for my own podcast a little bit differently shouldn't I if you were coming on but honestly thank you so much and um you know I've loved following gals who graduate for ages so I'm not gonna have

to go find all the other yeah get on gals who date yeah no I'm definitely gonna get on it's great there's some great stories on there honestly I love it like some first date stories oh guys like what should I wear my first day I love it I'm all over it I need to be part of that because all my friends are basically married oh and like it's just me and when you're the only single person yeah it's really draining yeah no girls who don't you'll love it yeah I'm gonna be perfect and also I have some horrific stories so oh my god please anyone wants to feel better about their dating experience I am the girl to make you feel better absolutely oh no but thank you so much thank you

so much. Thank you so much.