Girls Know Nothing - S1 Ep10: The TikTok Sluzza: S*x, 'Daddy Issues' and Setting Boundaries

Episode Date: October 6, 2022

Girls Know Nothing's tenth guest is a TikToker and adult content creator - Kali! Kali gained her following on social media for sharing her unfiltered s*x stories online.  During this episode, Kali discusses the stigma towards women who are openly s*xually active, how men have used the phase 'daddy issues' towards her while dating and we discuss your questions directly from Instagram Q&A. New episodes of Girls Know Nothing 🧡 will be released every Thursday, and will also be available on Spotify, Apple podcasts and wherever you get your podcast fixes! GKN Social Channels: Https://linktr.ee/girlsknownothing  Instagram: @girlsknownothingpod  TikTok: @girlsknownothing

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that I, well, there's a lot of things I wanted to talk to you about, but you know, when we were talking off camera about Patricia Hobart in Pitch Perfect, when she plays the character Fat Amy, and people ask her, why do you call yourself Fat Amy? And she says, well, if I call myself fat, then no one can use it as a way to offend me. Is that why you call yourself the sluzzer? Yeah, 100%. It's like, I'm just going to like own it and put it out there. Like people are going to call me a slut

and I don't really like that name. I feel like a sluzzer is an empowered slut, you know? Like I don't... But, you know, just because I just like don't want people to take the piss out of me, so I just take the piss out of me so I just take the piss out myself first yeah definitely but is it the fact that do you actually think you're a sluzzer or is it just because of the way society makes you think that you're a sluzzer oh it's

definitely the way that society like makes me feel I feel like like when I started making tiktoks about having loads of sex and stuff the amount of girls that message me on a daily basis they're like you make me proud to be a woman I can't believe like you're just so like you you know you I am you but I'm scared to be you like and talk about sex and I was just shocked I was like it shouldn't that shouldn't be a thing like you should just be able to enjoy sex and and have sex and there shouldn't be like a stigma around it yeah I think it's really weird so I follow and have like mutual friends with people that are like sex educators and relationship coaches and like give up relationship advice and like I spoke to them about um your like our episode and like kind of what things that they

think would be beneficial to talk about and I remember saying to them that I felt let down because my parents are very like strict and my mum comes from a very religious family. They don't want to talk about sex, but then I didn't get sex education properly from school. And then there's that stigma around women talking about sex. So then who do you talk to? Like I wasn't, I mean, I wasn't a kid when TikTok was around. So like, who do you talk about sex with?

So I guess in that sense like you are very empowering to a lot of young women oh thank you does it does it like does it do you find that a bit weird yeah because I just feel like I've always just been like this and it's just like I find it weird and very surreal that young girls are like I find you empowering just for me being me and then it made me start to realize like there is a real problem with you know the way that girls are brought up around sex and what we're taught you know even sex education at school all we're taught about really is like periods and how to put a condom on we're not taught about you know what where even like the clit is or what how to pleasure yourself and things like. Whereas I know for a fact the boys sitting in the other classroom

were learning what masturbation was and things like that. Girls weren't really taught that. So yeah, it is a weird thing for girls to call me empowering because I just feel like I'm being me and I didn't realise there was that problem there. I mean, I went to an all-girls school, so I didn't even realise that boys were being taught about masturbation in sex education.

I remember being given a blue penis and a pack of condoms and being like, here you go, off you go, and that's it. And then, obviously, being in an all-girls school, the chances of every single person in my class being heterosexual or, like, ever coming across a penis is probably quite low like you know there was a lot of girls that came out as bisexual as gay like but then what do

they do yeah exactly no and that's what I mean like we're not we're not even I think remember when I was younger like I didn't I remember when I started my period I was really confused because I didn't know where the blood came out from and I didn't realise that we had two vagina holes. And I remember starting to feel like my vagina and around there and I didn't even know that there was one big hole and one small hole, like for wee, I guess. Yeah, it's really weird because I feel like a lot of people still don't know that.

Yeah. And I learnt that when I was like 20. Really? Yeah, when I lost my virginity when I was a lot that. Yeah. And I didn't, I learned that when I was like 20. Really? Yeah, when I lost my virginity when I was a lot younger. Yeah. So the fact that I've already started being sexually active, but I had no idea about my own anatomy that I've been living with since the day I was born,

is quite worrying. Yeah. Yeah. I had the same thing. I lost my virginity quite young, but I didn't think that the penis went into a hole. I just thought that it slid in. Like, just rubbed on top of the vagina.

I didn't think it went inside, which is so mind... So when I first went to go and have sex, I was like, oh, my God, something's broken. Like, something's broken. It's not supposed to be like this. then it felt quite nice so but that's like so stupid like we should properly learn that in school and maybe at a younger age I don't know that kind of blows my mind that you thought that yeah because in my head it's like common sense to know that it goes in I don't know why I think it's because like I don't know why. I think it's because like, I don't know, like, I honestly don't know. I just really thought it was like a hot dog and a bun. Yeah.

Oh my God. I mean, like, it's really weird, like learning about women's anatomy, because also I did triple science and like in biology, you don't even really learn that much about it about it and I mean we talked about a lot briefly while we were waiting to like start this episode and one of the things we spoke about because I was I follow you on TikTok I watch your TikToks as well and um related to the one about binning feminine hygiene products because they gave you BV basically and it took ages for me to realize that it was that that was giving me BV as well and yeah so like I just do you think it was the pressure of other people like being sexually active that made you feel like you needed to use a product like that in the first place oh yeah 100% like I think there's that whole joke about like women's vaginas being fishy and I was

just so nervous for like, if I stopped, like for it to smell, even though natural vagina doesn't smell at all. Like it doesn't smell of anything. I don't really even taste of anything. But yeah, so I use that product like religiously. And then when I got BV, I'd carry on using, I'd use it more and more and more.

And then I realized like from TikTok, like that actually it was giving me BV and like thrush and things like that um but it just it throws off your pH so much in your vagina like it's awful and the way that it's marketed like I was thinking surely surely like it's gonna help me like how can this be on the shelves if it's gonna make it worse it's weird because I saw a lot of comments from people being like you learn more from tiktok than you do from school and like that's also something that i learned from tiktok because like you said you think you when you have bv obviously like there's a reaction

in your body so something doesn't feel right so then you think oh you need to use it more and actually just making it worse and i think it's like one thing that i think when you're being sexually active especially with someone who has a penis they automatically like because they use fairy liquid on those basically so they're like oh well if we can do it on ours why can't you do it on yours but obviously that's the lack of education around female anatomy again exactly and also it can like a man using like you say if you've got a boyfriend or someone that you sleep with regularly, if they're using that soap on their willy,

and then it goes into your vagina, it's going to throw your pH off as well. Oh, does it? Yeah. I didn't know that, because I knew there were some things that throw their pH level off. Like sometimes,

I feel so weird talking about it. You know, sometimes, I'm trying to think of like nice ways to talk about it but you know sometimes boys stuff can make your it's like really acidic or something and that can also throw your ph levels off I didn't know that the soap they used could also yeah that's happened to me before as well so it's just it's such a delicate like area that you don't realize and it's got a lot of maintenance a lot of maintenance in there and it's not cheap no at all like it's awful it's

awful but no I think it's really like I find it really helpful that you talk talk about it because I'm older than you and I'm I feel like I'm learning from you oh I feel like I'm learning along the way though like I only just stopped using FemFresh. And now I'm like, no, that is wrong. Do you know what? Someone said to me actually, I went to a sexual health clinic to talk about it because I thought I'd caught an STI

when actually I had BV. And she said that, that's when she told me not to use feminine hygiene products. But then she did tell me that if you were adamant about using something on that area she recommended using E45

but like the shower stuff that's non-soapy because it's the soap that dries you out that causes the weird imbalance I'm not a doctor guys so don't quote me on that but

um that's what she basically told me because she said don't use anything at all yeah i think yeah when i don't use anything at all like it's fine but i started using these they're like boric acid suppositories it's just like a little um it sounds really like scary but it's just this little gel thing that you just put in there and it rebalances your pH. Oh, like when you get thrush? Yeah, but these are like special gel ones for BV. And I just put it in one night and the next day, it's fresh as a rose.

The weird things that we talk about when sitting in front of a camera. But like obviously going on from like when I said about having BV, but then thinking I'd caught an STI. Next week is Sexual Health Awareness Week. So obviously like this will come out before then. And we briefly had like a bit of a conversation about STIs and catching chlamydia or any STI um yeah I don't know how you do it I I I somehow it caught up to me I have never had an STI and like I think a week ago or two weeks

ago I actually got chlamydia I couldn't believe it when I got the test too I'm very good at testing so I caught I know I caught it early um and I think the test due I'm very good at testing so I know I caught it early and I think I know where I even might have caught it from or whatever and it was just so annoying because you get these super easy to get rid of like don't even be scared about taking the antibiotics

the antibiotics like most of the time they will give you thrush and it gave me thrush brilliant I was like great like so I'm out of action from having sex for two weeks and now it's further like I give you thrush and it gave me thrush i was like great like so i'm out of action from having sex for two weeks and now it's further like i've got thrush so i'm trying to get rid of

that now but um yeah it was i was i was shocked when i got it because obviously like for women a lot of the time you don't know that you've got chlamydia until you test and unless you've had it for a long time there's no symptoms um that's why it's important to test because if you have chlamydia for too long it can make you infertile like um so I was just happy to like catch it early on it was the thing of like telling I was remember I was really anxious to like tell people that I'd slept with recently and once I'd done it I felt like I could do anything but I felt fine like it's nothing to be scared about I think like you just have to think, like, like, in the back of your head,

like, they could pass it on to another woman as well. Yeah. Who could then be, like, be left, like, infertile just because, like, you didn't pluck up the courage to say anything. You can also, like, tell the STI clinic to message them, like, anonymously if people are scared of doing that, so.

I didn't know that was a thing yeah so all all sr clinics there's even free like services just online that will do it even if you didn't do the sti test through them you just give them the number and it's completely anonymous they'll just send them a text saying hey by the way someone you you slept with recently has just tested positive you should go get yourself tested because the thing like so um i've done some work with some sti testing companies and things like that. And, you know, when you read the stats and statistics as to why people don't, like, especially young people,

don't test for any STIs, let alone the four most common ones, is because they are worried about knowing and then telling somebody. But I think that if people know that there is that service available 100% then it would make I feel like you know it would take that stigma away yeah exactly because you like you could have called it from anyone they could have called it from anyone like chances are they're not going to like even chances are they're going to be a bit embarrassed they're probably not going to even message you and be like, hey, did you give me, have you got chlamydia by any chance?

Have you given it to me? Like, they probably won't. So, yeah, it's, I, like, a couple of guys, I did get them to send a text because I had a bit of a dodgy, like, breakup with them or whatever. So I was like, yeah, I'll leave a text to them. But I did tell, like, a guy that I've been sleeping with, and he was fine.

He was like, oh, it's literally fine. Like, I could have given it to you. So, yeah, it's not as bad as you think. I think people are just going to be happy that you've been sleeping with and he was fine he was like oh it's literally fine I could have given it to you so yeah it's not it's not as bad as you think I think people are just going to be happy that you've told them yeah I think I have mad respect for that guy I don't know who you are by the way but um like mad respect for him for dealing with it in such a grown-up way yeah because I feel like if a man had phoned a woman and said by the way I've got chlamydia you should get yourself tested it would be the expectation this get yourself tested, it would be the expectation. This is my personal opinion.

It would be the expectation that she just has to deal with it. Whereas if it was the other way around, I feel like regardless of whether you know which party gave it to who, not that that even matters, it would be like, well, what's she doing? That I've now got it.

Exactly, yeah. See, that's what I was worried about like I was so anxious I was like oh my god right I just need to pack up the car just pick up the phone I was so nervous that they were going to be like oh you know so who have you been sleeping with like what how have you given this to me like I just think there's this idea that you've done something dirty or like shameful if you've caught it but it's like chlamydia is so common and like you can catch it like quite easily and um you know it's not like i asked to have it you know so it's not like i asked but also you know if everyone just tested themselves regularly you wouldn't it wouldn't be so common it wouldn't exactly um and tests so easy like i get mine through the post like if you live in london it's called like sexual health london i just get mine through the post. Like, if you live in

London, it's called, like, Sexual Health London. I just get mine through the post. I don't even have to leave the house. I just do the swab, like, the finger prick, send it off in the post. So, you don't even have to, like, go out of your way. I think, actually, there's a service the NHS run that actually do that for the majority of the UK. Oh, really? They test the four biggest STIs through the post and you'll never have to like go to a clinic because I remember like when I was younger

and you first like went to go get like contraceptive and stuff like it felt like a girl's day out after school to go to the sexual health clinic but then like now as an adult if you walked into a sexual health clinic you'd be like like you'd feel embarrassed yeah I'd be like even though it's not

embarrassing at all no it is though when they call your name out really loudly yeah and then they ask you in the waiting room in front of everyone what service you want that's the bit that's a bit awkward like and then you have to leave with your little goodie bag a few condoms better just stuff them in your pockets but like it's it's weird and I think, actually, one thing we did talk about as well is that I hate the idea of people not testing. Yeah. Because I want to say recently, but I don't feel like it is that recently. A couple of months ago,

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And he could have told you before, like, by the way, just want you to know, like, haven't really tested. Or brought condoms. Or brought condoms.oms you know just want because because that is also you know like the line of like consent there's that like um there's that thing of like before we have sex with someone you feel like you should know everything like and if you have if he has willingly had sex with you and knows that that's's another thing of like, I don't know how to explain it. But do you know what I mean?

Yeah. And I think, you know, it was weird because he turned around to me and said, oh, well, I've only really had X many. I was like, it doesn't matter. I was like, you could literally have lost your virginity and caught something. Exactly. It doesn't matter how many sexual partners you've had. You could have had hundreds and never caught anything.

You could have two and have caught whatever. And I sat there and had a conversation with him. And I was like, why did you not tell me before we had sex? You know, the first time we had sex was after a date. We'd had a couple of bottles of wine. It might have just been slipped. You know, that's both of our faults. We had slept together since sober.

That should have been the point where you said something before that yeah been like oh fuck i was really drunk last night by the way yeah like you know i'm really sorry not like oh yeah just haven't really tested ever like you know yeah like that's the mature thing to do and then i said i brought up the fact that i was brought up the fact that maybe if he knew that he should have been a bit more wary about wearing something and then he was like oh well I thought you would have brought them and it's weird because like as women or people that have uteruses you're always conscious about getting pregnant and like that's the main thought that go process that goes through a lot of

people's brains like that was all he cared about, whether I would get pregnant. Yeah. As opposed to whether we would catch anything. Yeah, like, your sexual health. It's just... Yeah, and, like, he could literally have, like, herpes, things like that. Like, chlamydia is not as bad.

Like, you can nip that in the bud. But once you catch herpes, that's, like, you have that forever now. Whatever partner you have, you have to tell them. I've got friends that have herpes, and now every partner they get with, they feel really awkward because they have to say before, by the way, I've got herpes,

even though this might just be a one-night stand, like, we're going to have to use a condom. And it's just because someone that she slept with wasn't honest with her. And it's weird because then you know if you don't know much about it or how how you can catch it because I don't so if someone said to me by the way I've got herpes I'd be like I really respect you telling me but because I don't know anything about it I'm gonna have to like just say no um and it's weird so like being honest in the first

place shouldn't be something people are worried about because it's just going to get more awkward down the line anyway like if you don't tell them then then you know like your incident if he didn't

if he didn't tell you then now it's awkward like he's stuffed that up now it's like bye yeah literally I was like I was screaming into my pillow

and he didn't understand why I was angry and I kicked him out and I was like, just leave. Yeah. Because you've obviously, you think you've respected me enough

by having consensual sex with me, but you've not respected me enough to tell me or to feel like you should have said something to me before we got to this point. Yeah. No, I completely agree. And even him saying like, oh, I thought you would have bought the condoms.

Like it's also, he should be carrying them around if he knows that he's not getting tested. No, I completely agree. And even him saying, oh, I thought you would have bought the condoms. It's also, he should be carrying them around if he knows that he's not getting tested. Yeah, you're the one with the penis. Yeah. You're going on a date with a girl and you're staying at a hotel room. The signs are kind of there. It should be down to both parties to prepare,

not just the one who might get pregnant. Yeah, exactly. I completely agree. And it's also the thing of like, I've got a lot of male friends and they're like, yeah, I'll have sex with them unprotected. Like, I won't even ask if they're on the pill.

It's their... Problem. Problem to tell me whether they're on the pill or not. And it's like, what if she's really drunk? Like, what if... Sometimes a lot of people,

they just forget to say it, that kind of thing. Like, they should always ask, you know? Yeah. It's not always our responsibility. But then it would be your responsibility if somebody got pregnant. Oh, yeah.

And decided to have a baby. Like, it's down to that person who's carrying the baby to make that decision. Yeah. So you should think about, if you're ready to father a child or not, then you should think of, like, take those precautionary steps

before you have sex. So when it comes to like talking about sex and dating, I noticed in your TikTok bio that your TikTok bio says, I have daddy issues. And I take issue with daddy issues. But for me, it's weird that you'll use another person's behavior

as a slur to somebody that is completely innocent. And it's also really disrespectful towards women because I've never heard the phrase daddy issues be used towards men when actually like, it can swing either way.

But like, have you have you like how come you have is that another Patricia Hobart it's basically is yeah like I remember um I actually told you this like basically I was dating this guy years ago like must have been like four years ago something now and he was like um we're dating and he messages me one day out the blue he's like oh um I can kind of tell like that you've probably got daddy issues because your dad died and I literally gasped I was like are you joking like like how dare you even say that to me like it's just ridiculous because I think I think back in the day I used to be a little bit clingy and things like that and that's what he was trying

to refer to like I can tell you've probably got daddy issues by the way that you're acting because your dad died. And it's just, like, a lot of people... And, like, it is fun... It's not a funny thing to say, like, you've got daddy issues, but it's another thing of me calling myself a sluzzer. It's just, like, it's, like, generic. When, you know, the term daddy issues, I probably do have it, but it's not... It shouldn't be used against me you know

is it just yeah do you feel like you're protecting yourself by by getting to the punch verse and saying it before somebody else yeah 100% yeah I am baffled the idea that a man would say that to you on a date I know on your date and be like by the way I can tell you have daddy issues yeah I was like okay how did you think that was going to go for him? Like, what did he think was going to happen? Exactly. I just think he was a bit of a prick, to be honest. In cell behavior.

Exactly. And he was just trying, like, I think a lot of guys, they try and, like, say them, see how far they can take things with you. Because, again, like, back then I was quite needy and did let men walk over me. And I think a lot of men

like seeing how much they can walk over you and how far they can take it and see how much you'll come back. Even I get that now, sometimes recently, and I'm just like, I'm not going to let that happen anymore. But yeah. Do you find that being open about sex and body count and referring to yourself as a sluzzer difficult when it comes to dating? Oh, 100%. It makes it a lot more difficult because I think...

It definitely does make it more difficult, but in a sense, it also makes it easier because men will realise kind of what I'm like. They'll see that I'm a very sexually empowered woman before they get down to the nitty-gritty. Like, I already put all my cards on the table, if that makes sense. And also, I think it will take a very emotionally intelligent person to actually, like, look inwards in me and realise why I'm like that

and see it as a positive rather than a negative um and like not objectify me like I'm not just a sexual object like I'm an emotional person um and I enjoy having sex and that takes a special person to do that I think but I think it does make it hard as well because you know sometimes maybe I will meet someone that's a bit like that but then they'll start to care what their friends think and things like that. But obviously, if I start... If I fall in love with someone, I'm not going to start talking about all my old sex stories online,

you know, like... Yeah. And I'll keep my private life... There's a lot of people I date behind the scenes that I don't even tell their stories or talk about them because that is still a private part of me. When they fuck me over, I'll start telling their stories. But until then, like you were saying... The boundaries are there until you piss me off exactly the gloves are coming on and then it's like it's weird as well because I know that we brief like we've

briefly spoken a couple of times about um your adult content creation yes um and it's you know you say it's not something you openly publicize as much. Is it because of the stigma that's attached to the platform that you don't publicize it? I think, well, I don't really publicize it as much on my TikTok because they do have a thing against adult content workers, like sex workers and things like that. I do put it on my Instagram,

but I would say I love telling people that's what I do because I love it and I like being like a very sexually liberated person um but there is yeah there is a stigma around it and especially when it comes to dating that it makes it even harder it does it makes it harder but um no I I enjoy it, and the thing is, the stigma around it, the main things I get, even before I did, you know, adult content, just telling stories about myself, a lot of men are like, oh, you know, you're never going to get married, you're never going to have kids, and, like, you know, what, in what world, well, this world, like, as the fact that I'm sexually you know that I love sex gonna make me a bad mother like that those things do not come hand in hand what how am I gonna be a bad wife how is

the way that I love people gonna change just because I like to show my private parts online like or tell my old sex stories like that those two shouldn't come hand in hand and they they don't for me yeah and I think as well when you look at people like for example like Kim Kardashian who yeah have had a sex tape but you know no one can criticize her as a mother yeah or as a partner because you know she's very much active in her kids life and she does her utmost to protect them and I think she's spoken about you know how she'll approach the subject with her kids when they get to that age. But I think one thing that's going to be beneficial

for her children is that she's going to be open to talking about those things with their parents. And I think, I guess, when it comes to having children one day, do you feel like that's going to actually help you be a good mum? I think it will, yeah.

And it'll also, like with Kim Kardashian and kids, she'll be able to bring those kids up to not, like, yeah, objectify women. They're like, I think people do look at people like sex workers and just objectify them as just a sex object, and that's all that they do. Whereas, yeah, my kids, they'll see that I'm more than just, like, yeah, showing my private parts online. that I'm more than just, like, yeah, showing my private parts online.

Like, there's so many different dimensions to people, and that's, you know, you shouldn't objectify people. So, yeah, I think it will make me an even better mother than I could be, to be honest. Do you think you'll ever regret making adult content? No, I don't think I will. I think that I put so much thought into it before I did it I wanted to be 100% sure that there was because there's no going back really like it is out there forever like there's one thing me making TikToks and talking about sex stories there's another me being

vulnerable um and showing like my whole body online and I don't think I will ever regress it no do you find it like this because I don't know very many people that do yeah adult content creation are it is it liberating in a sense that people respect your body and appreciate it because they're paying for a service or do you find that people are harsher and more critical of your body no I would say I hardly ever get harsh comments at all. I would say it's liberating because people are, you know, they are enjoying my body and like, you know, they are, but obviously the money comes into it. But the thing for me before I did it was I didn't want to go in it just because of money, because then I would probably regret it. I wanted to do it

because this is a job that I am going to get up every day and enjoy doing. Otherwise, I would regret it. I'd burn out. You know, money isn't everything. I wouldn't care about the money anymore. Yeah, so I would say it's liberating in that sense because it's what I love doing. I can imagine like on the flip side,

it's nice to hear that actually people that are like looking at that content and respecting your body and enjoying your body for what you put out there. Obviously being a TikToker and using TikTok as another platform, do you get a lot of, you probably get a lot of stick on there, right?

Yeah, yeah. Or like somebody, for example, like they did subscribe from my TikTok and they were like, oh, you're like, you're an ugly pig. And I was like, well, you've just given me your money anyway. That's such a weird thing to say. It's just like, okay, so you've just paid to come on this.

But yeah, you do just have to be very thick skinned. Like I know that I love my body and there's nothing that anybody can say that is going to make me feel bad about it. You do have to be very thick-skinned I think I get stick every day on TikTok about you know stories I tell and things like that but you just have to remember I have to remember that on why I do it and I find it liberating like I feel actually more confident with my body doing it like looking at it every day and making myself feel sexy

than I did before um yeah no that makes sense and I think actually do you know what when I was younger I used to be really awkward the first time I would be with somebody but when you are more sexually liberated or consider yourself to be sexually liberated you do feel better in your own body yeah and more confident and it's really it's like a weird thing. Because like, you know, like you're showing people bits you might not necessarily like about yourself. But they like that about you.

Yeah, exactly. No, I completely agree. And I think part of me was a bit worried going into it. Like, I really hope that, when I knew I was thick skinned, I was like, I really hope this doesn't, you know, like mentally, like, go the other way. But it really hasn't like I feel great and I do have a therapist as well so I think sometimes it just helps I speaking to somebody about it every every week as well

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Do you find like, how do you tell people what you do when you're dating? It's, the thing is, I think most people already know, like, what I'm like anyway that I go on dates with. Because they do their research, they look on their TikTok and stuff like that. But if I meet guys on nights out, um, who don't know who I am, I'm like, yeah, I like, I'm like a sex worker or whatever. Like, or I'll be like, yeah, I'm like a corn star or something but um but um and then you can just tell on their face what like you know if they're like oh like that's cool like you know tell me more or you know the best people are like they just don't really they're just like oh cool and then they change the subject a bit like they're just not that you can tell the ones that like oh really like what's your show on there

like kind of thing and i'm like it's really creepy what you're saying yeah I'm like okay you can subscribe if you want I'm not gonna date you but I'll take your money yeah but um yeah like I've like I've dated people recently and like they they're just like super I feel like they're more supportive of what I do now than when I was just talking about stuff on TikTok like there's people that really love it but but I'm sure down the line, it's going to change. I don't know. I do get worried. I don't worry, like, about trying to find a husband or something when I'm older,

but it's just going to definitely make it more tricky because although, like, there's one thing being sexually liberated, there's another, like, finding someone to accept your job and that is obviously you know something that a lot of men don't want to be shared with with other men so yeah I think um I mean Hannah will probably hate the fact I'm gonna bring up Andrew Tate but um it's the like it's like you know when he was allowed on the internet yeah and he was like if my woman I'm'm going to paraphrase because the language used was very misogynistic,

but he said that if my woman decided to do adult content creation, I'm entitled to her income or 80% of her income. No. Do you ever worry that someone's going to be like, I'll accept you to do it? Yeah. The thing is, it's like,

if I do get with someone, I kind of fall in love with them. them like it's just like another job like I will like we probably will end up you know you're not gonna have my money but we'll have a good life together like and I do think about it like the idea of seeing like when I get married I probably would I don't even know if I'd do it legally or I'd probably get a prenup or something because you just don't know. Even a lot of guys, I think they've come out of the woodworks because they've realised like,

oh, she's making money now. We love those people. Yeah, I'm like, bye. It's a bit late now. Yeah, it's a bit late now. No, I love that. I think one thing as well

that I did want to do, and this is a different, this is something new for Girls Know Nothing. So I went on to my instagram and asked people for questions and like thoughts that we they had on women stigma stigma on women for being sexually active or being open about being sexually active um i'm we did get some weird ones um some people divulging into their married sex life which is a bit weird to share with a stranger on the internet um let alone to everybody else that ever watches or listens to this podcast but we did get some really good questions um so you know one of

them is you know as someone who is single and sexually active, how do you set boundaries when it comes to protection? I mean, I just say, I do always carry condoms around with me. And, you know, sometimes you do get a little bit drunk and you kind of forget, like, to put something on. But if I am, you know, sober enough or I remember I do just say look you have to like let's put a condom on I don't want to catch anything um and if they say no I'm like well that's fine like you obviously don't respect my body then if you're not going to put

one on um yeah that's good because I think you know I, obviously when a lot of Roe v. Wade stuff was going on in America, I spoke on TikTok about stealthing. Yes. And that is always a weird conversation to have because in my eyes, if you stealth somebody, that's sexual assault. Yeah, I do. I agree. Because that's, yeah, I think it's wrong. They've consented to sex in a way with you

and you've taken it completely different yeah like you've not consented to how they've agreed yeah to have sex with somebody and yeah

so like that's always a weird conversation because I remember having debates years ago and I still have them now about actually well they've consented to the act

and I was like yeah but they've consented to the act with a condom yeah and also you know okay if you do get pregnant you've completely that like actually, well, they've consented to the act. And I was like, yeah, but they've consented to the act with a condom. Yeah. And also, you know, okay, if you do get pregnant, you've completely, like, you've technically invaded their body. Yeah.

You know, when they haven't given consent and now they have to go and do something where it's quite traumatic just because maybe they don't want to have the child. So, yeah. Even if they do want to have the child, like, it's traumatic. Even if they do, do yeah even that's traumatic yeah thinking about the fact that it's come from a lie and like something that's not consensual so

yeah um i think one of the questions as well um oh my god so there's a lot coming through um about norm like so a lot of the people that have written in that like a lot of the people that have written in, a lot of the general consensus is that how do you think we can normalize masturbation for women? And I know obviously your adult content creation is solo. So for you, it's normalized. Yeah. But then how do we normalize it for everyone else? It's difficult.

It's definitely difficult. I remember even a couple of years ago i'd always talk about how much i masturbate like i do it definitely daily if not a couple times a day like i love it and my friends would just be like like they wouldn't do it as much it just wasn't in their daily like thing i think just if the more that you talk about it it's going to be de-stigmatized, whether like people like it or not. And men, they might find it, you know, uncomfortable. Even some women might find it uncomfortable talking about it. But I think that's the only way to de-stigmatize it.

Like it's, for me, it's a form of self-care. Like I enjoy it. And you're exploring your body. And it's like, having an orgasm is like one of the most powerful experiences that you can have, I think. Yeah, I think, I agree. And actually, I think one of the things as well is that

if people don't like it or don't agree with it, I always find that sex is better when you do because you are exploring your own body. You learn what you do and you don't like. And if you don't understand what you like by yourself, how do you expect somebody else to know how to do it? Exactly. Yeah, I don't think it should be something that's looked down upon

because boys talk about it all the time. Yeah, 100%, I think. And boys do it all the time. Yeah. 100%, I think. And boys do it all the time as well. Like, I guess it's different because you don't get a, you know, an erection. So it's like, it's a bit different. So you don't feel like you have to do it, but like, it is,

like you do just become more in tune with your body. I love doing it, you know? The thing is though, quite a lot of boys are shameless about doing it. Yeah. I went to a festival and we went glamping and a boy had quite clearly

done it in the shower and left evidence that he'd done it in the shower at a festival so like if they're that shameless about it

like we should be shameless about it yeah exactly I mean like on my adult content site like a lot of people

they'll be like, yeah, I'm just in the toilets at work, like doing it. And I'm just like, okay. I'd be like, I could never, I mean, I wouldn't really get that urge to do that. But, you know, whatever fits your boat, you know? Yeah, I've never sat at a desk in any of my jobs and thought, you know what I really want to do right now?

Go to the toilet and do that. So that's and yeah maybe we should maybe we should get to that point where we are shameless i don't know we're not encouraging people at work but like that kind of level yeah i think um okay so one person said how did you unlearn the concept that we are a possession that men earn hmm i it's a hard one because when i used to have sex like a good couple of years ago i probably i think i was having sex for all the wrong reasons it was for validation um because i hadn't really had that and a guy before like I didn't really have a father figure which is like the whole daddy issues thing and I was looking for that in a man and the way I thought you get that is through validation but I think once I started to look

at sex in a different way like I'm having sex for myself like I'm enjoying it um I think that's how I kind of unlearn that I am I'm not your possession and I think from self-love as well like if you grow to love yourself like you just I think you do just automatically see that you are not anybody else's possession other than your own like not your parents nobody and you only get that through self-love and like being independent I think I think it's the only way to unlearn it because it's still a huge thing in society, definitely. Yeah, definitely.

I think it's about realising that you choose who you have sex with. Oh, yeah. And it should be up for your enjoyment as opposed to for their enjoyment. And I think that's something that we all need to learn. Yeah. Because we all, like like in adult content, it's adult content,

majority of the time is made for male viewers. And then when we consume that kind of content, it makes you think that, well, actually my purpose or that organ's purpose is to please them and not for myself. So, yeah, I guess when you say like, when you look at the reasons why you're having sex and maybe that changes your outlook.

Definitely. I'm going to skip some of these personal, very personal questions. One of the ones that I really want to discuss is opinions on sex on the first date. Yeah. So I personally always, usually you always have sex on the first date

if I like the person. I think a lot of girls, you know, and each to their own, will, you know, hold out till maybe a third date even though if they wanted to have sex with the girl on the first date they'd hold out to the third or fourth date just because they hope that they'll gain respect from the man and I think you know a man knows on a first date whether they're just gonna have sex with you or whether they like you for you I think so either you have sex with them on the first date or you create an emotional

attachment with them on the third date and then they ghost you then anyway. And then you just, you hurt more. And also, like, try before you buy. And my respect does not come from anybody else other than mine. Like, I don't get any, like, self-respect from waiting to have sex with you. Like, it comes from myself. So if I want to have sex with you, I will.

Yeah, and I think it's weird. So like I was saying to you that I'd seen a man on TikTok talk about how if she doesn't have sex with you on the first date, I mean, it's wrong because everybody's boundaries are different, but if she doesn't have sex with you on the first date, she doesn't like you as much as you think she does by waiting. And then lots of men were saying, well, actually, she considers you as a long-term material

if she doesn't have sex with you on the first date but you know I said to you my lot my ex-boyfriend and I was together for three and a half years we slept together on the first date yeah same with me as me with like all my exes or people that I've seen like seriously I've always slept with them on the first basically always slept with them on the first, basically always slept with them on the first date. Like sometimes it will just be like a one night stand that's just turned into something. So yeah, I don't agree with that. I feel like, yeah, I feel like just, if you want to have sex, have sex.

Like don't worry about the respects. Like, I don't know. Yeah, don't like seek validation from somebody else. Yeah, don't seek the validation. don't don't seek that the validation like yeah um lots of people talking about my shoes which is not helpful like really not appropriate um so this is actually from somebody that um we mutually follow each other and they talk about a lot of like sex and relationships on their instagram um if a guy doesn't want to give oral but wants to receive it do you think he's a prick or do you think he's setting sexual boundaries I think that he is setting a boundary but you know

if if all is big to you then you can set that boundary as well and be like me and you were not compatible you said that as well I just think like for me I don't I don't know if it's just I haven't really been with many people yet where I actually enjoy it I feel like I really need to feel comfortable with somebody to let them go down there I don't know why so for me at the start it's not as much as a big thing but I think like one of my exes he would never do it and it did really piss me off so I would always give it to him so yeah I don't think they're massively being a prick they're being a prick if when you turn around and say well I don't want to give you oral or you know me and you we're not compatible then if they turn around and they've

got a problem with it then they're being a prick but you know for example if I for some reason didn't like going down on a guy they have to respect that boundary as well like it goes both ways no I definitely agree with you I think if that person said that to me I'd be like that's fine yeah I respect your boundary but we're not sexually compatible and therefore it's just let's just leave it at that exactly so I think it is it's it's hard because I think a lot of we see a lot of content that's like you's just leave it at that. Exactly. So I think it's hard because I think we see a lot of content that's like, you should just give it, like grow up.

And I was like, yeah, no. Yeah, like some people, it's not just that, some people don't like certain positions, things like that. And if it's something that the other person likes then you guys just aren't compatible. And I don't think it should be.

You can't really hold that against the other person. Exactly, yeah. Okay, cool. So I always, if you've watched the podcast, you will know the final question. So I always ask people, what would you say to somebody in your past or in the future that doubts your success based on your gender?

Oh, God. I just thought about this one um you knew it was coming so i know i know i just been like wrestling with it okay what would i say if someone someone doubt my gender i would say you don't have to worry about not being vulgar by the way because yeah i would say i don't know maybe i don't know, maybe, I don't know. Maybe try having pussy for a day. Like, try having pussy for a day and we'll see. Yeah, it's difficult, but once you've figured it out, it's great.

No, that's fair enough. But, you know, I think a lot of people that have reached out to me wanting to talk about sex will find this episode really liberating. And, you know, I applaud you for being so open because then it helps encourage prim and proper people like me to also be open about it. So, no, thank you so much for being guests on my podcast. No, thank you so much.

Thank you.