Girls Know Nothing - S1 Ep19: Liberty Pool; Life a Year on From Love Island, LA Knife Scare, Being the Ultimate Girls Girl and How She Is Becoming Her Own Woman

Episode Date: December 8, 2022

Welcome back to Girls Know Nothing! 🧡 GKN is a female focused podcast hosted by@SharonNJGaffka Girls Know Nothing's nineteenth guest is Liberty Poole. You may know Lib as nations sweetheart and ultimate girls girl, from series seven of Love Island. But we want to know more about 'The Lib Behind Love Island'. Lib uses her platform of 1.4 million followers to show the unfiltered and real her, and that's exactly what she has done on her episode of GKN. New episodes of Girls Know Nothing 🧡 will be released every Thursday, and will also be available on Spotify, Apple podcasts and wherever you get your podcast fixes! GKN Social Channels: Https://linktr.ee/girlsknownothing  Instagram: @girlsknownothingpod  TikTok: @girlsknownothing

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that i'm really awkward at accepting compliments. Do you know what? Actually, I feel like I should already know that. Yeah, yeah, honestly. But like with guys, obviously it's even worse. But anyway, moving on. We'll get to that bit.

We'll get to it. I'm Liberty Paul and you may know me from Love Island or Dance of the Nights. And I'm happy to be here today to talk about all things women, positivity and yeah, tackle some issues that are going on right now. Yeah, I think, do you know what actually, one of the reasons why people were so keen to have you on here

is because you were definitely portrayed and you are in like in person, definitely a girl's girl, you know, you stuck by your morals through the whole way through the show and there are a lot of questions that we'll get to about your time on the show but you know, I want to know a bit more about you

because I think one of the positive comments we do get about people that have been on Love Island is that we get to see the real them. Yeah. And I feel like, you know, when you said you did A-level chemistry, I was like, what? I want to know about you. What was young Lib like? I feel like I've always been quite switched on

in terms of, like, I'm quite emotionally intelligent and stuff. I will say that I'm not good at, I'm probably not street smart and I'm not good at DIY. But we've seen that. With emotional intelligence and stuff, I'm good at that. And obviously, throughout school, I was classed as academically smart. So I was actually the top girl in my year for grades. And I got pupil of the year. And I was the the top girl in my year for grades. And I got pupil of the year. And I was the top girl

in my whole year for grades. I got nine A's and nine star in the B. I think, do you know what? It's really weird. When we did that, like Mr. and Mrs. game and everyone found out, they were like, what?

Yeah, I know. It's a shock. But you know what it is? When people know, it's like my personality doesn't match my like... It's very legally blonde. Yeah, it's like my personality doesn't match my, like, sort of grind. It's very legally blonde.

Yeah, it's very legally blonde. I am literally like, she is me, I am her. Like, it's very legally blonde because I think people assume because I'm a bit ditzy and, like, girly that I'm not going to be smart, which is stereotypes.

And even, like, when I was in a work setting at Nando's, I would just be, like, sort of dismissed as, like, oh, you didn't get them grades. And it's like no I did do you know what I mean so yeah obviously at A-levels

I did biology chemistry psychology now A-level grades weren't as good as my GCSEs because I found out what

partying meant with the girls at college so yeah what did you want to be growing up then so I actually wanted to be a paediatrician.

Okay, interesting. I would never have heard you do that. Yeah, like a doctor specialising in like children's needs because I always like love kids like growing up and stuff. And I always like, obviously was really good with them. And I wanted to be a doctor. But at that time, I feel like when you're at school and stuff, you have all these pressures of like,

what do you want to be when you're older? Every week, it's like, what am I working towards? What do you want to be when you're older? And you get sort of made

to feel in school like if you don't get these grades, like you will not succeed in life. Yeah. Almost like it's the, what's the word, be your end all. Yeah,

I get what you mean. So for me, obviously, I was just like, okay, and I had doctors writing as well like my writing's awful

so I thought it's meant to be yeah so obviously I done that and then I just didn't I just lost the passion

for science at eye level and I didn't really know where I wanted to go and this is gonna sound really weird but I'm a bit of a crazy girl so I'm just gonna say this I had a dream one night every time I've ever heard you say I've

had a dream it freaks me out it's awful no like you know like Martin Luther King I had a dream yeah I had a dream and Simon Cowell was in this dream oh god and basically he was like you need to do like marketing it was so weird and then after that I woke up knowing that I wanted to do like marketing

I love that Simon Cowell in my dream told me to do marketing I know so basically then I went to uni and I did marketing

for two years and I loved it because I feel like I got to like use my creative side as well and it was something that I was like

passionate about and then I was like I got to like use my creative sides as well and it was something that I was like passionate about and then I was like obviously Covid hit um and I'd always considered maybe doing the violin like people say oh my god you should do it like you'd be you'd be good on it but I just it's one of them things like yeah it's never gonna happen do you know what I mean like you can say that but it's never gonna happen happen and I was visiting my mum because my mum lives abroad in Abu Dhabi I got a message from management basically saying would you be interested

in going on Love Island and obviously at the time I was like you know what I'd come out of like a long term relationship

so I would never have done it before that because I was in a relationship with someone which was quite long term for an 18 year old it was like three years something like that and enough for like three years so obviously I'd come out of that um and then I just felt like

you know what like what have I actually got to lose like why not just go for it so I remember doing my audition tape in like the January of 2021 and I put on my Nando's uniform and I stuck like a periometer on my wardrobe in my room I feel like I've seen your audition video actually you know what I lost all this content on my phone so I don't know if I still have it but it was like obviously you know how it goes from like lemon and herb to extra and I was like oh all the guys I've dated in the past have been lemon and herb I need an extra hot guy in the violins and all that and I think that's the key like like you need to make it personal to you don't try to be like anyone else just do what feels right and suits you that's the key like like you need to make it personal to you don't try to be

like anyone else just do what feels right and suits you when you're doing like an audition tape and I thought I'm gonna send it off and I was like optimistic but I was being realistic I was like I'm gonna hope for the best and expect the worst yeah because we remember there's so many yeah there's so many people like so many people and I just went through like the process bit by bit and I was like okay cool, cool, cool, cool. And then, yeah, like obviously I got the call to be like an OJ and I was ecstatic. But I literally feel like I've been plucked from thinner.

Do you know what I mean? I never was an influencer before this. I didn't have any experience in this field, social media, nothing. I used to post a picture of me when I used to go on a night out with the girls. That was it. That was my Instagram. Like, I didn't have any experience.

And I literally feel like, oh, my God, like, I'm literally a waitress at Nando's in Birmingham and a marketing student. Like, I'm such a random person. Do you know what I mean? But I got picked and it was just, like, mad. And then, obviously, I just went on thinking, I'm just going to do it for the experience. I know like people say, oh, well, you know what? I did it for the money.

I did it for this. I did it for that. I generally did it just for the experience of it being like, you know, wow, this show that you watch. And, you know, I watched for years before and what it's going to be like. And I thought, I'm going to go on. And if I'm out in a week, I'm out in a week.

But at least I can say it was an experience and I did it. And then I went in, obviously like met Jake, got on with Jake at the time and just thought, yeah, and then cracked on with it. And yeah, it was nice because I think for me, at that moment in time, I didn't have a lot of self-esteem. Yeah. Coming out of a relationship where I got cheated on

and maybe a few comments didn't make me feel the best about myself. So to just know that the public supported me and I had just been myself was such a huge compliment. And it was just so nice as well. Because in there you do doubt yourself because you get advice from people.

But in the back of your head, you are thinking, okay, are you giving me this advice because you're being genuine towards me or are you being manipulative and you're in here for a game? You do think that? So at the time I was like,

that was what I found hardest in there. So, but I just went with my gut instincts and then to come out and sort of have what I was feeling in there and my I just went with my gut instincts and then to come out and sort of have what I was feeling in there my gut instincts confirmed it was almost like okay Lib like you need to fucking sorry that's all right drop that out you need to like trust yourself more yeah and believe in yourself more believe in like you know you got instincts believe in who you are more and it just proved that to me yeah I think one of the biggest things I did want to talk to you about is what life is like after Love Island obviously we've seen a lot floating

around social media and online about the realities of being a reality star and you know you said people always doubted how intelligent you are yeah I get it now so like even when I do press interviews you know I had a very well-established career before going on Love Island like you know you were very academic do you ever find that people automatically assume that you're stupid because you have that Love Island label yes I feel like people that go on Love Island sort of have stigmas of looking a certain way and being a certain type of person I feel like the key thing from Love Island and things in general is that you cannot categorize a person to a stereotype or a person to a certain way of life because so many people have so many different aspects for them and yeah I'm ditzy but I'm also switched on yeah and everyone

has different sides so you can't just be like oh yeah they're like this and they're like that like people are so individual have so many different size and personality traits that it doesn't work like that and I feel like yeah like obviously coming out of Love Island after the show I went in at 21. Do you find that was very young? In a way at the time I thought I was growing up but looking back yeah in terms of I'd only had one relationship I hadn't really had that much life experience I've had to learn so like this industry has made me grow up fast like as in I went from being naive and trusting in everyone and an oversharer with everyone don Don't I know that. Yes, I was oversharer with literally like every person to literally having to wisen up,

almost being forced to like get with it, come on, wisen up now. And being strong as well, because I feel like I was quite fragile. I was a bit of a people pleaser. I didn't, not people pleaser,

but I didn't like to hurt people's feelings. And I always like to keep everyone sweet because I'm not confrontational person actually so that's how I was but now a year later I've definitely grown up and matured a lot in the way I think and stuff and I feel like because I've gone through so much in a year that's definitely done that for me yeah because I can imagine the sense of responsibility or the pressure you feel when you come out of a show like that and you left with a million followers um it was over a million um do you ever did you feel the pressure to be able to live up to like

what Love Island expectations are post the show yeah I feel like because I was like so busy going out like coming out like I was training for that so the first month was mad and then straight in October I went to training for Dancing Nice five times a week every day which I don't think people realize how much the training is for that so I was doing that like Monday to Friday every day then even on my day off I was doing like brand work and stuff and I was just constantly busy doing the next thing that my head was always like go go go and I didn't have the time that like maybe other people have processing coming out to think right where do I want to go with this I've got this platform what do I want

to do with this it was almost like I don't know what to do and then obviously because I wasn't an influencer before you see all these like obviously like stunning girls you know their fashion sense is amazing I haven't like before I obviously I come out of love on it I hadn't even had to think about a stylist or anything like that I just sort of wore what I wanted to wear and now we like you get thrown into this world where it's like fashion makeup you know all this sort of stuff and you're like where do I slot into this and for me I'd say like about four months ago I was in that sort of like lost mindset of this isn't me I'm not this posy fashionista on Instagram so I had to really like do some like soul searching and go back to my roots after being busy and being like right where what do I want to

do in my platform where do I want to go with it who am I do you know I mean like go back to my roots and stuff and I feel like now I'm in a position where I know who I am I know where I want to go and I know exactly what I want to do but it took that moment of business and calming down from that for a second to think yeah this is the direction to go in. So a lot of people always say that you know when the next Love Island has come out because the work dies down because obviously the next best thing is out yeah it takes a toll on their mental health because their work's dipped do you feel like it was actually beneficial to yours um I feel like when obviously the next love island come out and stuff you do get work come about still so for me it wasn't a worry at that time, but it was a worry at that time about longevity. Okay, yeah.

In my case, because I was thinking, okay, right, I've made obviously good money, which I didn't go on the show for, but I'm really grateful that that was an opportunity for me to do. But in the long term, I was thinking, what's going to go on next next and you do sort of think about like your next jobs and stuff um and I guess in my case and stuff I was thinking I need to get a direction sortish of because when you come out you do get things thrown at you and sort of handed

to you on a plate and stuff yeah and you need to think about what direction you want to go in and what you want to do with your platform so for, I'm just literally taking it back to my roots and thinking, like, what do I want to do? And I definitely want to do more stuff that is linked to me, like being a girls' girl and showing girls as well that you don't always have to be dolled up. And that's why I've sort of been a bit more vocal about that recently on my social media, because even coming out, that was a thing for me where I felt like do I have to be this new

glam celeb all the time as such um and that's a pressure that I dealt with myself when I feel like Instagram now needs to go more down the route of this is me this is what I'm up to like and to show girls that you can have normal natural days or that's why I'm trying to just show people like me eating foods me me with the sparklers at Bonfire Night Libs McBang channel coming soon yeah just because I feel like you need to see that it's not every day here I am looking 10 out of 10. Sometimes I've got like a cough, you know what I mean? Right now,

it's not COVID, but it's a cough. And you're not unformed all the time. It's okay to be like that. So yeah, that's definitely what I want to do more of. What's your ideal thing? Like if your manager phones you right now

and said, I've got this for you and it's your dream thing, what would it be? Okay. I would probably say that my dream job role I'll be open and honest I would love to do sort of like presenting okay any particular show I feel like I just see myself as like a girl's girl so So any like girly TV, like reality TV.

Isn't there that makeup show that's on like Netflix? I can't remember what it's called. I'm not that good at makeup. I don't think some of the people that host it are either. Okay, that's alright then. I could see you.

I could see you being on the panel of like RuPaul Drag Race. Yes, I love that show or something like that. Because you know what? It is about presenting. It's like sort of a profession where you have a routine. And as a dis disorganized girl I feel like I need more routine

in my life yeah I can vouch for that when I tell you that Lib was the most annoying person to live with I am even my friends at home say it no one can live with me I'm that messy every time we'd be like where's like I remember losing a shoe and being like, where's my shoe? And you'd open Lib's wardrobe, everything would come flying out, including everyone's missing items. Because you just scooped everything up and just forced it in. Yeah, because the producers used to get you to tie to the wardrobe. And I'm like, who's got time for tidying, not me. Everything goes in there.

I was going on to the topic about when you were saying how you you want to encourage people that they don't feel the need to be glammed up all the time I do feel like when I was googling you which is also a very weird thing to say to somebody it gives me the ick when someone says it to me so sorry um but like I feel like you get a lot of unfair stick about your natural image. You think, yeah. I think you do. Like when I saw the videos you put on social media about being told that you fell off after Love Island, I think that was a really horrible, that's a horrible thing to experience.

Yeah. If you're not on a show. I feel like because, like I said, with Love Island, people assume that you're going to be like UK's next top model. Like obviously being on Love Island or whatever, people assume that, oh, attractive people are the only people that get selected for Love Island, etc, etc. And I feel like people expect you to be UK's next top model. So like the moment that people meet me in person, they will always comment on my looks and weight. Every day of my life, I get told,

oh, my God, you're so much skinnier in person or you look so much better in person. And immediately, as a human being, my natural thoughts go to, what the hell do I look like on TV? Yeah. And it just makes you feel, like, insecure about what you look like on TV because I'm thinking, every day of my life, I'm getting told I look like on TV? Yeah. And it just makes you feel like insecure about what you look like on TV because I'm thinking every day of my life I'm getting told I look thinner or better.

Do you know what I mean? And I feel like people might mean it in a nice way, but it does make you sort of like naturally conscious about stuff like that. And everyone's seen me with no makeup on TV and I'll get told many times by like, obviously people I know, oh, you're so pretty without makeup

and this and that. But obviously, there was an occasion when I went to the airport where I did get quite bad verbal abuse. Who goes to the airport in like, heels and full gown? Sometimes I have, to be fair. I was thinking,

I was like, if anyone's going to have done it, it's you. It is. But that day, I just wanted to go and be, no, because we was going out on the night so i wanted to do my makeup when i got there and because we was arriving nighttime and i literally just wanted to go out like no makeup hair up like like i'll just do it i had no fake tan at that point like just completely like natural self no lashes nothing i should be able to go to the airport have a pint of coke

coca cola full fat coke before going on the plane and have no dramas do you know what I mean I was thinking when you said have a pint

I was thinking alright Liv what happened to you a pint of full fat coke I'm more of a cocktail girl but I do like a pint of full fat coke I should be able

to sit there in the airport at Wetherspoons with my pint of full fat coke and be like jolly holiday jolly you know what I mean what they call the holiday hypes

can you have the holiday please but I'm calling this holiday hypes the holiday hypes in the airport and be jolly and doing this I literally

got shouted at going liberty from love island in the airport and going oh my god what happened to you babe you've gone downhill

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and my mate was like, ignore them. Like, obviously, they're just not nice people, but it wasn't the fact of, it was just shouting it across the airport. Yeah, it's like public humiliation.

It's public humiliation. That's what it was. And like, so then go on the plane and the air hostesses wanted a on the plane and the air hostesses wanted a photo with me and the air hostesses were saying to me

that they were saying it to them as well and it's just I just want to be able to do enjoy a four hour journey they nearly got kicked off the plane as well

so there was trouble but I just want to be able to enjoy like a four hour journey on my holiday and I feel like for me this was

something that I actually like cried over oh babe yeah because I built it up and I feel like sometimes being in the public eye as well you can't always defend yourself because you don't want to like kick off in public because next thing you know there'll be like a spin on it and it's in the press that there's a video you're in a fight at the airport do you know what I mean so you have to obviously protect yourself as well in that respect so I feel like I couldn't pipe up and I just have to deal with it and I got on the coach and I'm sure these girls didn't mean it in a nasty way but after all after all that then as well um I went I was going on out the airport and these girls pulled me over

like can we have a photo and they were like yeah yeah they're like don't worry we follow on Instagram put a filter on you. And I was just like, it's just so unnecessary. Like, and I think after all that, it just got to me then. And it did make me cry. I remember crying on the coach because I just think like,

I'm like 23 years old. I'm still learning about myself every day. I'm lucky to be as sure as in, I know who I am at this age, but I'm still growing as a person. And to have insults thrown like that that it could be quite damaging to someone that isn't mentally strong enough to deal with it um so luckily I am but I'm still human and I still did cry about it and then I thought you know what I can go away from this and I can be Nancy negative and just like let it get to me or I can actually voice my experience

to help people know that this is normal to be like this. So I went on my socials with no tan, no lashes, hair scraped up and was just like, this is me. I don't know if you see everyday glam pictures, but this is me. And since that experience happened to me, it's inspired me even more to go down the route

of being real because at the end of the day people liked me for being me and nothing else but me people liked me because I was a girl's girl because I was genuine

because I was a real person which I still am so me posting these like posed images of me looking glam and don't get me wrong I am a glam person

I am oh I've seen them heels babe we all know it yeah literally I bought the neck breakers we all know that but at the same time like I'm just a normal girl I really am and I feel it's important for people to see that so that's why now with my Instagram I'm going down the more of the route of yeah being wholesome it's really weird because I don't feel like blokes would ever

shout that at another bloke that was on the show like if any of the boys from our series were there with a little bit late

from a trim you know what's funny Sharon that night I went out in Tenerife and I seen them blokes and they're saying blokes that shouted abuse were trying to flirt with me

and talk to me of course they fucking were. Of course they were. That's so... I'm embarrassed for you, by the way, if they're only watching. How embarrassing.

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We're seeing like a massive increase of like thefts and quite violent crimes happening to people in the public eye. And I know, I think it was summer this year, both you and Kaz were in the US and there was an article or a fair few articles about both of you being held at knife point while in the US and I you know obviously I'll let you explain like how I made you feel at the time but I kind of I read an article and you said it made you re-evaluate life. It did. It really did. So obviously me and Kaz was on holiday with each other.

And my granddad said to me, whatever you do, Libby, do not go downtown LA. Right. So my granddad gave me a warning beforehand. So you went downtown LA. So I went downtown LA. No, but basically we knew some friends out there. And they invited us to dinner at their penthouse in downtown.

And the Uber driver didn't speak very good English. And he dropped us off at the wrong point. So we had to walk up. Now me and Kaz are walking through downtown LA with like mini skirts, heels. Neck breakers. Neck breakers, yeah, as you called them. Everything. And we were just walking.

And obviously, we're tourists, so everything looks beautiful to us. neck breakers yeah as you called them everything and we were just walking and obviously like we're tourists so everything looks beautiful to us everything looks beautiful you know like it's fresh on the eyes never seen this before

so there was these lights in downtown and they were like yeah beautiful like gonna film it so I'm literally like there with like my phone out filming like the street

and it's like this woman come out of nowhere like it was actually like it was bizarre and she was like you filming this is like i'm gonna swear oh no okay carry on she was like are you filming me bitch like this and i was just like so confused because imagine my camera's here yeah and this oh i said destroy the set imagine my camera's here and this woman's coming from this direction right so it was just a bit like oh and me and kaz were like trying to process it we were like what is going on and she was getting like more and more aggressive basically

as she come closer to us and she was like i'll fucking kill you i'll kill you and basically like she was rummaging for a bag and she got this knife out. And at this point, me and Kaz were like, luckily, she dropped the knife. Okay. So at that point, as soon as she dropped the knife and I seen this knife on the floor,

I was literally looking at Kaz. And you know when you're like, fight or flight mode kicks in? So my fight or flight mode kicked in and I was literally like Kaz we need to run and these two lads luckily come over and started having a go at this woman now I think she was either mentally ill or on drugs because the way she was acting was just so paranoid and almost like schizophrenic in terms of she was very like just very out there and she's just I don't think

she was actually in control of her own mind at the time she was just really aggressive towards everyone that was going past so like obviously me and Kaz

I said we need to go so I start running down the road and Kaz is behind me but I can see that Kaz is still trying to process everything that's going on

and I'm like Kaz let's go let's go we need to go the woman's got a knife it's not safe so my first initial thought was let's get let's go we need to go the woman's got a knife it's not safe so my first initial thought was let's get us to

a safe security point ASAP I run up to this couple and I'm like please please please we've just had a knife pulled out on us can you call the police

no no sorry I didn't say that I said please please please we've just had a knife pulled out on us help us sort of stuff and they literally turn around and go, call the police then.

So I don't know if it's a normal occurrence. And they're like, it wasn't helpful. They just sort of like, looked at me like, why are you bothering me? More than wanting to help. So I ran into an Apple store

and I was told there's a security guard. And me and Kaz went in there and she was walking past and then I just seen all these police people go in. So I feel like they, after that, I think she got arrested. And then the security guard helped walk us back to the apartment. But that wasn't what changed the way I looked. It didn't, it didn't.

So after being like, that whole happened, like me and Kaz didn't process it properly. We sort of just got straight to the dinner and carried on because we was like what just happened like we was in disbelief and um obviously I put it in my friend chat like guys it's just happened I just wanted to let you know I love you all message my mom message my family because that's the first people you think of and something like like that happens. And my best mate rang me straight away. Going, are you all right, Lib? Like, are you okay? And obviously, like, then my other friends sort of said,

are you all right? But it took them, like, a day or two to ask if I was all right. But they were checking all my socials. Okay. After that happened. So that, for me, was a realisation. Because I thought, and I'll be honest about this,

if my friends had had that happen to them, I would have been straight there, ringing no matter where I was, asking them if they was okay. But I think it was the fact that they were checking my socials and never asked me if I was all right. And it made me think, all this this time I've been putting people first and I don't even know if they care

about my well-being yeah now since then I've sorted this out but I think that was a math that changed me yeah because I remember when the article first came out and I rang both of you I just see if it was okay but oh I'm gonna get emotional about it oh babe don't because I'll start crying as well because I'm ill I'm very like it makes me feel emotional but I do think that massively changed me from April 2021 in terms of I just thought I really need to start putting myself first and being putting my interests like first more because I just feel like I've always been a giver like I've always given people like 100% and always move towards them with genuine intentions and and I've always been the best friend to someone that I could possibly could be to people and as I've gone through life I've just realized that people just aren't the same

back so for me it changed me for the better in terms of I'm still that genuine person I'm still the exact same girl I was but I just know to put myself first a bit more so I feel like that was a good thing that come out of it and also I feel like as well it made me realize with the whole knife incident that happened that life is so short so you can't spend your whole life putting everyone else first and not doing what makes you happy yeah and since then it's just made me so much stronger in that way have you had to like distance yourself from those people no no like we spoke about it and we sorted things but I just know where I stand a little bit more now yeah because one thing that um I said that I really

loved and not I've seen it from lots of different people from lots of different aspects of life is that they don't keep the friends they used to have before they became who they are and one thing I love about you is that when I see your socials you you still have those it's all my goals from time ago and you know what like I'll always have my goals there from Birmingham and stuff because for me like real friendship connections and family is what's important over any money, any fame, anything. Like materialistic stuff only gets you so far in life, but we're all heading in the same place. We're all heading in one direction.

We're all going to die one day. Do you want to be sat on your deathbed surrounded by money and fame and no true friends? Or would you want to be surrounded by people that love you? And that's what I think about. So for me, coming out of Love Island, before Love Island, coming out after Love Island, I was never ever going to stop chilling

with the people I would chill with before because for me, I had a good support system around me and good mates and stuff um I'm still going through life and still figuring out my own stuff and friendships and that

but for me like I know who my ride or die girls are and I'm not gonna not hang around with them just because I've been on the show like it's so shallow

to anyone that does that it's just not it's not real at the end of the day they're the ones that helped you get through it. Yeah, exactly. And helped you get on it.

Like my friends. One of my mates was literally there like helping me record the audition tape and they literally was there like all the way through.

Do you know what I mean? For me, it's not, I'm not going to be like, yeah, thanks, bye. Like I wouldn't even think of doing that and I feel like

they're the people that I, when I'm sad or when I'm down, I can have real conversations with about how I'm feeling and there's no ulterior motive there I like I think one thing you did say like off camera sometimes industry can be so bitchy oh my god so bitchy and I've had very few friends in the industry just because as much as someone likes you or may like you,

they're always going to see you as competition in the same industry. What can you give them? Or what can I get from you? Yeah. So for me, like, it's very much, I keep it real. And I always like be pleasant with people. But my real, real friends, I keep it like close to me. Yeah, definitely.

No, I think that's one thing that I've always really respected about you because like you said, the industry can be so bitchy and people always have an ulterior motive whereas, you know,

your original friends will never because they have your best interest at heart. I still have best friends in the industry like me and Kaz. I consider Kaz

as one of my homegirls as well. Do you know what I mean? I mean, you struggled to open that bottle of Prosecco for time. I'll never forget that. That's what we bonded over. That's what we bonded over.

I still remember meeting both of you and realising that I had a tissue stuffed down the back of my bikini. Those tents were so hot. Oh my God, I know.

So I had that really disgusting tissue hanging out. You let me and Kaz and I were like, who are these imbeciles that can't open this Prosecco? I'm thirsty. Yeah, literally.

I was like, oh my God, what is going on? But do you know what? So I did your store on Instagram. I asked people what questions they would ask you. And a lot of the questions were about the person you're coupled up with on the show. And I bet that annoys you.

It's coming up to two years right we'll have the second season coming soon after ours like and people are still

asking about it yeah does it do you find that it impacts your relationships now that people constantly asking about it no it doesn't

impact my relationships because I've dated a few jikes after as well oh okay no I mean once you don't impact my relationships because I've dated a few Jakes after as well oh okay no I mean once don't break a habit of a lifetime right

no exactly many more men to give me a bracelet preferably Cartier this time please thank you oh it's just banter no

no you know what like me and Jake are like completely on civil terms yeah I don't talk to him but if I seen him I'd wish him the best you know what? Like, me and Jake are like completely on civil terms. Yeah. I don't talk to him, but if I seen him, I'd wish him the best, you know what I mean? But it's weird because he feels like a distant memory now.

I feel like it was a long time ago. And I feel like there's no bad blood, like, on my side towards him anyway, because if something doesn't work out with someone, it teaches you lessons and stash. And I probably was a lesson for him and he was a lesson for me. Yeah, and at the end of the day like as horrible as it sounds it was a storyline it worked out for you yeah but I didn't even see it like that then for me everyone was like oh was

that a stage was that a stage and I was like no like I generally went down to the fire pit because I was gassed that my boyfriend just told me he loved me that was not safe to be fair like when you're in it it's not but because I was watching it you was like I was like this is so this is mad

because obviously I'd been in it with you guys you'd only seen us happy yeah so I had a very different view because like when we were in there we were like

you two were like the couple to look up to I didn't even realise how often he was calling me his girlfriend I didn't realise that I did he was calling me his girlfriend. I didn't realise that. I did see a lot of like,

skits of it being made. So it was quite interesting. I remember him saying that to me, but I was just like, yeah, I know. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I don't think the editing really helped,

to be honest. Do you know what, like, so I did get a lot of questions that are, look, these are just the first three like so I did get a lot of questions that are look these are just the first three pages so I got a lot

a lot of them were why is she so fit thank you loads of things like that I'm glad in the DM I'm joking don't I don't know I don't

I don't so I won't reply one of them was like are you and Lib friends no we actually hate each other yes we don't talk sorry one of them was like, are you and Lib friends? No, we actually hate each other. Yes, we don't talk. Sorry. One of them was like,

so I feel like this is a question you would be very good at answering. Okay. So a girl said that her bestie went from being very needy to being very distant and she doesn't respond at all. What should she do? I feel like you've obviously done something.

Not you, but she feels like there's a vibe from you that's obviously changed. And I think, have you spoke to her? Maybe you need a conversation to see what the problem is because I feel like your gut instinct never lies. And if you're feeling that way towards her or whatever as well, and she's feeling that way towards you, then there's obviously an ongoing issue that needs to be discussed but what I will say is sometimes it's not always you as to why

they've gone distant sometimes they're going through their own things or their own battles or sometimes like yeah sometimes people do naturally grow apart but I'd say a conversation definitely needs to be had to see where you're both at and just be open and honest it's kind of friendships are kind of a little bit like actual romantic relationships, aren't they? They're so complicated.

Honestly, I love all my girls, but there's been times in my life where there's been ups and downs, but everything just makes you stronger. And I've never lost a friend

that I've wanted back. That's a good piece. That's a good thing to say, to be fair. Look at her. She's standing there going, preach. What is the best bit of girl advice you could give to anyone watching okay the best bit of girl advice I could give to anyone watching is please please please know

your self-worth because there's so many girls in relationships or even friendships and I've done it myself where I've put up with way too much and I look back and think I was being made to feel like I was the problem but it wasn't me and I feel like you just need to go with your gut instincts and remember yourself whether it's jobs relationships friendships everything and always make sure that if you want to be you know girly advice stick to a good girl code and stick to your moral compass because too many people bend it to fit their own agendas and you don't want none of that in your life I agree um what would you say to those that are looking to go on reality tv or put themselves in the public eye

I would say that obviously always go for your dreams and if it's something you want to do then you should just go for it and believe that you can do it because it's all about a mindset and nothing is impossible. However, not everything's as glamorized as it may seem and you need to be really like mentally assured in yourself and you need to be strong and have a good support system around you because with every great blessing

comes great burdens and responsibilities you literally quoted Spiderman did I? I feel like I'm saying this I was thinking in my head

I was like I've definitely heard this before I was literally saying this I was like where have I heard this from before she's quoting Spiderman here we go get yourself a girl

that can do it all hey what do you think has been your favourite opportunity after being on Love Island Throw in Spider-Man. Here we go. Get yourself a girl that can do it all, hey. What do you think has been your favourite opportunity after being on Love Island? Okay, I think my favourite opportunity has just been meeting so many different people from different walks of life. And I love, I'm such a social person. I just love talking to everyone

and just hearing experiences and just meeting all kinds of different personalities and people. Because I feel like you always learn something from people that are around you. And I feel like it grows me as a person as well. Okay, amazing. On the flip side of that, what's your biggest regret from Love Island? Oh, I feel like in my journey on Love Island island I actually grew as a person because that was the first time I ever said no to someone um like as in no I'm not standing for this because before

that I put up with so much so I feel like I grew so much from that and that was the start of my strength but admittedly even though I'm only human I still doubt myself sometimes and I still think I could be more confident in myself and that's a journey that I'm still on which started with me walking away that time yeah I'm still on that journey so not as much a regret that I'm still learning that. I think the thing is when I say to people, confidence comes with age. I feel like the older you get, the less you care about what other people think about you.

Yeah, I feel like I don't necessarily care what people think. You know, tell a lie. Okay, so with me, I don't care about what people say about my looks because for me, I'm quite used to that trolling and I've never sort of held my looks in high regard anyways and I've always said from day dot which I still do I lead my personality that's just who I am like I will not lead with what I look like it's not my thought I put forward I put forward my personality and who I am so I feel like I'm not as I don't get

bothered by what people say if they say you're ugly or you this you're that but when someone says you're a horrible person I'm bothered because no I'm not do you know I mean the tone of voice changed so you can tell she literally went like proper brummy then like I'm bothered I'm bothered because I'm not so I feel like that bothers me more so I need to yeah I'm still learning we're all human We're all human. We're all still learning. We're all still on a journey. I agree. So the final question I'm going to ask you is, what would you say to somebody in your past

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you say to people that doubt your capabilities to to be a successful woman oh okay so if i was to like speak to my younger self i would say stop crying over this dumb boy and leave the relationship sooner because you've got a future ahead waiting for you that's brighter if I was speaking to my future self because I actually feel like I let someone affect me quite a lot and how I felt about myself so I would never do that again if I was speaking to my future self then I would say you've got this but keep going because I I always strive for more. I always push myself and I'm ambitious and I've always been very work-driven.

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