Girls Know Nothing - S2 Ep11: Elle Brooke - Journey from only fans to professional boxing
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I know. I do say love me. I love your bold head welcome back to another episode of girls know nothing today's guest is model tiktok star and
social media influencer with an almost accumulated total of three million followers elbrook has
recently taken on a bit of a career change and will have her next boxing fight on the 22nd of April. Welcome to the studio Elle.
Thank you I'm excited to be here. I'm actually really excited I get really excited when I see
all your boxing content. Obviously it would be rude for me to not ask you about your OnlyFans
career. Yeah. I know that it's not something you talk about
as often now because you try and like move a little bit away from it but it's always something
I always want to know about how people started it because sometimes I sit there and think
I should just do OnlyFans it's easy money but it's not though is it no I think um I think now
it's probably a lot harder to grow than when I first started because it's so normalized now everyone has an only fans when i made an only fans i got like annihilated by my whole town
i was in every single group chat whereas now if you say margaret's got an only fans of course
margaret's got an only fans so is cindy louise and katie do you know everyone's got any fans
it's so normalized but um yeah it's not easy money I think the hardest thing um in
social media is growing your platform um but then you know if you've got followers then as long as
you market yourself right you can do anything yeah I can imagine I'm like did you ever regret
making yourself no because I mean like now of course I'd want to be more mainstream and you
know get the bigger sponsorships which I never will because I've been like tainted like um with you know pornography and that kind of stigma but um
I wouldn't be where I am today if I didn't have an OnlyFans I wouldn't be a boxer because I
wouldn't have a platform I wouldn't have followers or anything like that so it's all part and parcel
it's it's really weird that you said it's like tainted but we surely it should be normalized and
encouraged for women to be sex positive yeah a hundred percent but then I mean if you've got a
clothing brand if you've got someone that you know has really graphic content on the internet compared
to a model that doesn't I think that you're gonna choose the person that has a more polished brand
like I do I get it like I do get it like it's annoying it's like that but i understand when you were making the content did you ever feel
pressured to get more and more extreme to get more and more view um of course i think you always start
like when you first started just like oh i'm just gonna do this never gonna get my boobs out yeah
well i think i've to be honest i i did uh each step like really quickly anyway but you know like
more men are like oh you
know you should do this and you just want more money so you push your boundaries um so yeah i
think it's really easy to do but i think it's also really good for like people if they're coming into
the industry and they're new to like set their boundaries because once something's on the
internet forever like you can't ever take that back that's quite a scary thought no do you ever
think about it like do you ever deep it that
it's going to be on there forever yeah 100 but i'm so all in it like this is all i'm
gonna do for my foreseeable future i think you know perhaps for the next five to ten years there's
nothing different and then after that will be different things but for me now i think it'll
be hard to go into like an office job because you know i've the face wouldn't fit could you imagine
like me deciding sales recruitment or you know like anything like that everyone like dude why don't
you just bashing yourself off on the internet like i don't think they would even hire me so
like being you know having an only fans of that content out there like it does restrict you for
your future opportunities yeah i would turn up you know what if they said oh we couldn't hire
you because of how would you know what i do how do you know what i did yeah steve sexual harassment in the workplace um but obviously
the one of the actually no there's one question i want to ask you um i did see a lot of comments
you know you do get a lot of trolling yeah i commented on one of your pictures and somebody
commented on back on it saying that's a man and I replied with it's good thing I'm bisexual then
isn't it but like you do get a lot of trolling yeah I know I think um I don't know I feel like
it's just part of the job now it's so bad that it's so normalized to hate people now isn't it
like look at hate as a whole like you can never stop it like no matter how many celebrities do
documentaries and talk about you know how punishing
it is and how deep words really cut it's never ever going to change and I know there's like things
like social media putting in ID checks and everything like it's never going to happen and
hate is always going to be there and I think you kind of have to accustom yourself to it and get
thick skin otherwise you're never going to make it yeah 100% I think do you think it really annoys you when
people say that you're only successful because you're willing to take your clothes off yeah 100%
I think I'd be successful in anything I do but um this is just the profession I've chose to be the
best at and you know bloody good at it yeah to be fair if you have a good something you might as
well make your money out of it right yeah but um you're now boxing yeah which is weird like I I was around
when the whole like um social media stars and influencers going into like the box boxing
atmosphere do you think it's taken as seriously when social media stars box as it is with other
professional boxers um the whole industry is taken as seriously yeah like do you think people take it as seriously oh
the individuals um yeah i think so i think uh for the females there's not many out there at the
moment so it's kind of hard uh but the men there's a lot of really good influencer boxes like you
look at slim ksi um salt pappy like they they're in the gym every single day and i think they're
known as influencer boxes now more than t than TikTok stars or anything like that.
And as it's getting more popular,
you're going to see people taking it more seriously
because there's going to be more talent in there
and it's going to be harder to get to the top.
So unless you're putting the work in,
you're not going to get the results you need.
So yeah, I think they are taking it seriously.
And it's good that more women are getting into it.
So there's going to be like more of a pull
because the pull is so shallow at the moment.
What made you want to get into it in the first place?
I just got DM'd by Kingpin on my first fight.
And I was like, yeah, like I was a bit hesitant.
I was talking to my manager about it.
I was like, I want to get really manly.
Like all boxing, I want to get all muscly.
You know what I mean?
I don't want to like already get bullied
for getting called a man anyway so um but uh yeah no i you know it's
something um that i like and you know it's so funny like speaking about like people calling
me a man it's like i'm built like i'm not petite like i'm short and i'm stocky and that kind of
thing and i've always like hated my body i wish I was like a tall Victoria's Secret slim model but
then my body type really helps me in boxing because I can punch hard it's like boxing has made me
love myself again it's really weird that you said that you wish you had a different body because I
sit there and look at your pictures being like wish I had her body I think everyone just wants
everything they can't have because for me I'm always like oh you know like I'd rather be small
and like dainty and that kind of thing but like I'm never going to be that way because I'm not built that way
so what happened when Kingpin messaged you asking about your first fight and you were like oh I
don't want to get stocky what happened after that no I that's that's in my own head yeah I don't
want to get stocky but I just proceeded with it and then I had my first fight so it's the Astrid
and then it was AJ um and then to be honest even during that fight even though I was training I
wasn't never had the bug for boxing it was just something I was doing rather than something I
love but after I won that fight I was like hey I was disappointed with that performance I want to
prove to people that I can box and this is what I want to do and that's when I really really sort of
started falling in love with it and then ever since you know with OnlyFans everyone always
asked me like do you want to quit OnlyFans or do you want to do both but you know right now I can
measure the two up really well and they work with each other because as I said the hardest thing is
growing a platform like this one I can keep ticking over whilst I'm still grafting my arse off boxing
but you know I would like to be known as a boxer one day like you know like oh the OnlyFans star
porn star whatever you want to call me like that's not something I want to have as a legacy I always feel like with women have like your legacy
or what your brand used to be is harder to shake than it is for men yeah a hundred do you find that
I mean I don't know that many men in the like only fans atmosphere have you noticed it with
them have they ever tried to like move away from it and they found it hard I think for men it's easier to do anything than women because
you're like it's more socially acceptable for a man to be a porn star because they think oh they
are sick good like dude like you look at Jay Mike you think of Johnny Sins like no one ever chats
anything about about them they're the man they are the coolest person in that room whereas women
they're like or whore they of course they'd be able to have more opportunities and that kind of thing because
there's a different um stigma between the two genders it's really weird that people would call
is it mostly men that call you that like a whore yeah like i never get bad comments maybe on like
facebook when i get shared on like the sun or the daily star like you get the older woman but i get
that it's just generational yeah i'm not severely offended because i get it's just a
generation thing um but it's it's mainly men yeah it's really weird because they're probably your
biggest like argue audience they're your biggest clients they're probably calling your whore but
also subscribe to your only fans i know and it's so funny that men chat all this shit because
it's it's like supply and demand like if you guys
didn't want it we wouldn't exist so i'm not doing it for free i know exactly but if you were doing
it for free like you wouldn't be as mean it's only because we're charging for it and we're
making money from it that's what they don't like exactly but what's your training like what's your
training schedule like now i know you said today you had a day off yeah um I usually work five days a week in the gym and then Saturday I do sprints
so it's six days a week and it is intense and you know I'm trying my hardest because
if I put more work in then in my head I'm like I'm gonna win because I'll be doing more than
my opponent what's the like so when obviously your fight's on the 22nd of April yeah what
actually happens on fight day on fight day
you know like fight day is so weird for me because you wake up you're eating breakfast you're like
oh i'm gonna fight later do you know what i mean like it's just so weird most lads on a night out
on saturday i know like oh guys we're gonna get on it tonight like it's just so um and then you
kind of like like just like twiddling your thumbs a little bit. You're a bit bored. Like, try have a nap.
Try get your mind off it.
Because if you're like, got to fight later.
I've got to fight later.
Like, you're going to stress yourself out.
So you're going to try like, chill, relax, that kind of thing.
So yeah, it's just like a normal general day until you go like in the shuttle or whatever.
Like, you go to the venue.
Then you're stuck in a room and you're like, got to fight in a few hours.
It just changes a bit. You don't get get anxiety or like what's it called stage fright
yeah i get stage fright in the changing room just before i'm gonna go out and it's so but i'm like
why am i doing this like i'm literally gonna project our format everywhere like i have the
worst anxiety in the world but then ebony was like you're gonna like you're born to do this
think that this is what you want to do you're born to do this think that this is
what you want to do you're born to do this i'm made for this i'm gonna smash it like you just
need to give yourself some like positive affirmations then you walk out and then you
think right i'm ready i've got to go it's so weird as soon as i left that changing room like
everything changed everything like the anxiety like dropped out of my body like i knew i was
gonna win that's a good man that is a good mentality to have i would actually shit myself i know I'd be like I'd beat you in a ring but I definitely don't think I'd
beat many people in a ring yeah I mean with training isn't it yeah I just like to eat too
much to like strength you're obviously clearly a very positive person so I'm like no I eat too
much you're like no it'll be fine don't worry about it i know no normally i'm such a pessimist so do you fight like did you is there a lot of pressure on you to
win this fight this fight yeah because you've won the last two yeah of course there's pressure but
i know this is going to be an easy fight for me like i don't want to sound like a dickhead like
this one for me no sound like isn't a fight that i'm going to be like even though i'm taking it
seriously i'm doing everything i'm not like oh what if i lose or you know i have this anxiety like um i know i'm going
to smash this one um but it's the tournament as a whole is really nerve-wracking because i think
the latest stages obviously people get more experience because they've had fights they
and um it'll be interesting as well because you get to see everyone else fight like right now
i'm the only person that's had a fight on a card so I don't know how seven other people
box like just don't know I actually I won't lie to you I don't really know how boxing works outside
of the ring like I don't understand how football works yeah like with the like league matches and
tables and stuff but boxing have not a clue whatsoever yeah like um there's not really like
a ranking I think there's unofficial rankings and like you have like belts and that kind of thing
but the uh the tournament's quite interesting so you start off with eight girls and then the
winners fight the winners the winners uh the losers fight the losers then it goes four girls
and then two girls so I was thinking how does eight I'm really bad at math how does eight girls
mean over three times you get to a final I just couldn't wrap my head around it and then two girls so i was thinking how does eight i'm really bad at math how does eight girls mean over three times you get to a final i just couldn't wrap my head around it and then i realized
it's just half and half wow great math to be fair until you said that my brain was going how does
how does eight turn to two over three legs yeah but i was i mean i've seen people that have lost
fights recently and their social media is horrific not what they're posting
but the stuff they're getting yeah of course it's savage and you know what that's the only thing that
i would ever be scared about like losing i'm not scared if i get concussion if i get battered
if i get knocked out like the only thing that i'm absolutely petrified of is losing because like
that would kill me like I
don't know if I would ever be able to recover from losing like so early on in like my baby boxing
career um and with the hate I get anyway like that would cut deep because people can say things about
your looks and that kind of thing and I think but you get it so much you can block it out but
when it's something that means so much to you and it will really touch a nerve like that that would kill and you've put so much like effort and time into training
so would you box again if you lost your next fight my next fight if i lost the first um
fight of the tournament i would have to have some serious words for myself
serious words like maybe maybe the same for you I mean all depends on how I lost
and everything like that so I guess we'll see this girl's a lot bigger than me she's like 5'10
I did notice I was like it was really funny when you're doing like the face off and your face is
like in her chest I know I didn't I won't lie I did crack myself up looking at the picture
she I think she was wearing heels but she's still uh she's still like 5'10 but she looks like uh
like not strong she's just like uh like slender like skinny so um like I don't think her punches
were hurt which is good I've seen you do some mad stunts though I can't remember which boxer it was
that you put on like a chest piece and was like punch me as hard as you can yeah I know yeah no
and he punched me so hard like I actually wet myself I saw that I think I literally was like
I think I weed watching it yeah I was like no that's not okay on the lower I was like yeah
that was Liam Smith and he he punches hard yeah it's all conditioning what do you think would be
next for you as alongside your boxing career alongside what's next I'd love to have like um
like another business like not just um OnlyFans
not just boxing but like an actual business that makes money on its own like I don't know if I'd
ever want to connect it to me because I wouldn't want the downfall for example of me to be connected
to my business um that could have like longevity in my life like after boxing after OnlyFans and
everything like that so um i still got a few ideas
about what i want to do with that but i definitely want to start separate business like a different
income stream because they say like millionaires have like a minimum of seven income stream
yeah someone told me that once i was like okay you've been getting weird instagram adverts that's
what i think you've been getting yeah probably weird motivational pages andrew tate algorithm coming for you i can't believe
he's released is he all like home arrest now home arrest yeah why is he on home arrest what does that
just in his house now instead of in a prison he's like oh they hate women women i went to jail
matrix he's just that's what he's doing online right now is he allowed online i don't know if
i've seen him tweet i i think the only the last thing i remember of seeing of him was saying that he if his woman
did it only fans he would need 80 of her um he does this to get famous i'm sorry like he knows
what he's doing to get a reaction to get more famous to get followers do you know what i mean
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No, I wouldn't.
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and also like I don't stand for anything he says so it'd be like against my whole
ethos that's true I mean they're probably gonna come for you anyway after this
I know I do say love me I love your bold head bolder bolder
oh it's bold shiny head what what's the first thing
what's the first thing you're gonna do after your boxing fight
uh first thing i'm gonna do i want to say eat last time on my um it was my birthday
like two days before my fight.
And I was given this caterpillar cake and I didn't eat it.
I ate it like the Sunday, I ate the whole thing.
So I probably just eat.
But I mean, I'm eating what I want really, because I don't have to make weight.
I don't need to lose weight.
So I'm being quite kind to myself.
But straight after my fight, it's six weeks till another fight.
So I don't get time off this time who's your fight who's your opponent after uh whoever wins out of julie and danielle
i don't know any of these people julie's like the the jacked brazilian one you see she's
fucking huge i'm like how is she in the same way i'd like to see her after her cut
how is she going to be the same weight as me are you all the same weight we're all uh 133 pounds to 140 pounds
seven kilo different uh pound difference I think some girls are six foot like and I'm five one
so it'll be interesting to see how we look at similar weights. Yeah, I'm in the weight category, just saying.
Oh, yeah.
I'm joking.
I'm not going to get in the ring.
I'm not fighting.
I can't do that to myself.
I'll, like, do one punch and be like, ow.
I heard.
No, I still, I'm like, every time I look at people's boxing content,
I'm like, how are you guys doing it?
Yeah, it's savage, isn't it?
It is absolutely brutal,
but I think it's just putting yourself out on that public platform yeah it's a lot to lose because you're it's not just social media people
it's it's being recorded for like live showing as well isn't it yeah exactly like you've got
all the hundreds of thousands of people watching at home and then you've got it clipped on tiktok
forever that meme of whatever you do good old pad is on the internet forever ever how did you feel after
your first win my first win oh i hated that i hated that fight i hate the fight i cried in the
changing rooms after that fight like i was just i hated that fight so um i think i didn't put the
performance on that i wanted so i was really disappointed but after my second fight i was
like damn that shit was great who was your first one AJ AJ and
the second one was Faith and Faith was like the first round like bloody carnage so um yeah that
was unbelievable so I think it's good that I had the Faith fight because it's given me the confidence
that I needed so I always had that doubt was oh like maybe I'm not made for boxing I don't know
why but I always thought you'd fought Astrid no so I was meant to fight Astrid yeah and then
she pulled out and then AJ you ever fight her Astrid she fights at 52 kilo and you're 61 62
okay and I mean like you know I don't know if I have 10 kilo on me to lose like even though like
I'm chubby right now but yeah that's that's a big difference isn't it she'd have to put on why she's refusing to put on
yeah oh duck fighting albrook fuck that i'm a skinny don't blame her i'd do the same
i didn't want to fight someone else each to their own that's a good game plan because she's like
you're ducking me and i'm like i'm just not your weight class you fucking slag
I actually don't know where you would lose 10 kilos from I know exactly I don't have 10 kilos
to lose so it is what it is so what would you say to any woman out there that wanted to either start
an OnlyFans or start a boxing career um uh boxing I know that boxing can be really, really patronizing.
And I think where it's such a male-dominated sport,
it's so scary.
But trust me when I say they are the nicest gyms in the world.
And they're so family-orientated
and have that real family feel.
And everyone's looking out for each other,
supporting each other,
like a really good support system within the gym.
So just, you know like the hardest
part is always starting yeah and once you get into it it's going to be so amazing and i think
even for cardio you don't actually have to spar and fight and everything like that it's so amazing
like it's hit and cardio and my body's the best it's ever looked and i barely lift weights like i
don't know you know everyone on the inside lift weights lift weights but honestly like boxing is such a great form of exercise and cardio in general um so my advice
would be just don't be afraid to start because i know how patronizing it's gonna be then with
only fans fucking making only fans i think that's the easiest thing to make in a while everyone's
like how do i make an only fans like sign up like making an instagram account literally that's how
easy it is within a few
hours you get age verified and then boom you can do what like bob's your uncle you can do what you
want i literally said that as if i knew how how to make an only fan yeah but it's that simple it's
like a like a form and then you know just if you want to use fake name use fake name if you want
to use your personal instagram use your personal instagram you've got loads of balls do that you
know someone told me that it was the nicest platform they'd ever used because
everyone's verified everyone's details are available and they're paying for it so why
would they be mean to you exactly but you do get hate on um some people because they're just like
wait when you shove triple dicks in your asshole you're also oh come on people are just so mean i like 99 of my messages are lovely but like you
get the people there's a really shit day i'm like don't take it out on me i think i'm the only
person you reply i reply to or no like the replies to you you're literally i think you've taken the
crown or the belt for the weirdest trolling message i've ever seen because i've never had anyone turn around to me and say they've had that
oh really i get honestly i think everyone just sees me online and thinks i actually
get bullied by everyone like what's my message gonna do what's my message you're probably not
gonna read it and i read it i'm like read all of them yeah even i've read some of them and i'm like
they're some of them quite funny but they're a little bit why would you put that on the internet i know but i think you always have
to have like a like hearted stance on it otherwise you're gonna sit home and cry like
i get called a man you know it's a good way to grow your public platform isn't it yeah 100%
all engagement at the end of the day yeah algorithm is algorithm when you say that to
a tiktok troll they don't like it no they're like how dare i give her
more like views they're like like turning in their grave but they'll still come back and like reply
to you anyway exactly because they're like yes attention because that's all they ever want
attention literally and it's like people that probably are trolling you secretly fancy you so
i'm like thank you for actually following me like you did not only
commented but you actually followed me at the same time like it's not like you unfollowed me
so thank you what is wrong with people um I've got a question for you what would you say to people
that doubt your boxing success based on the fact you started on OnlyFans um I think that people
only doubt my success because it's never been done before.
I think that when someone with an OnlyFans ever becomes a good boxer,
like if it's me, if it's someone else, then that could, you know, shut the people up.
I think I'm so novice in my career that people are only going to see me grow
and where I'm going to be and the boxer I'm going to become that
they'll have no option but to put respect on my name because I take it as seriously as anyone else
and I train with professionals world champions you know people have been doing it that basically
their whole lives and they're dedicated to the sport and you know I'm working out and training
the same as them yeah I think it's really amazing and I'm actually going to watch your fight I know
you're doing the marathon I'm literally I was like I won't be drinking I won't be staying that late I'm going
to bed because I'm going to be running the marathon oh so we're basically okay I forgive you
yeah thank you for coming you'll understand because you've been through all the pain yourself
just not running stupid distances are you going to get like nervous before your marathon I hope
not the last time I did a half marathon some i don't eat dairy someone
gave me um i ordered a porridge in a drive-thru vegan porridge it had dairy milk in it oh and i
thought i was gonna shit myself halfway through the marathon intolerant uh a little bit yeah
so that was the greatest half marathon i've ever run in my life oh shite and i was running with
one of my friends yeah and she was she found it she was like i don't know if i should laugh or try for you what's the runner
that did a shit and then won it isn't there like a runner like a girl a female runner on the side
of the sidewalk and then won the marathon didn't she or i got told she won i want to say paul no
it's not paul i can't remember but yeah, if you need to poo, it's kind of normalised.
Someone told me to wear a nappy.
No, that would rub.
I'm not doing that.
That would chafe.
Yeah, I'm just going to not...
What, so you'd see it?
On national TV as well.
Yeah, like in like a nice poofy.
Like a little poof.
What are you going to wear?
Like leggings?
I have no idea.
I'd be like, yes, running outfit.
That'd be my first thing. Before even signing up, I'd be like, what to wear'd be my first thing before even signing up I'd be
like what to wear on a marathon is that is that what you did with your boxing career picking my
outfit first yeah I think uh when you go to boxing like I always go to box fit and they like design
it like the first couple of times like in front of you it's like a really cool experience like
it's all part of it oh maybe I should get one designed for the sake of having it designed
I would never wear it anywhere but you can wear it as like a bathrobe i don't know you can wear it extra bathrobe ever when
you're feeling really low at night you just want to watch a rocky movie like put the hood on
do you know what i mean well at least we know what you get up to on a sunday night
do you know what i always get the same trolling as you i get cold on my man as well
it's the voice yeah i don't know what it is i feel like any female on the internet now they're instantly like they use transgender as like a really like
insult and you're you look trans like i see so many people get it it's like i don't know what
it's just like their number one insult now i just i don't know if it's because i go to the gym and
i lift weights or if it's because my voice isn't as high pitched as some women's or what like i
don't have a beard yeah literally like i mean there's nothing wrong if you did but like
yeah no i get you i don't think you have a low voice no i just sound like a tory you just sound
posh yeah i just sound posh yeah that also gets me trolled too tory it's like you have a voice
only your mum and boris johnson can love that's
funny yeah i know better than you're a man
by the way you need a bbl that's literally it really yeah you sound like a man boris johnson
will look like your voice is something boris johnson would love p.s you need a bbl i know
bbl is like out of fashion now like no one really gets one do they i don't know i'd be too scared yeah no they're really hurt and
then i lost weight and mine just went so do not recommend it's like fat isn't it and it's weight
fluctuation yeah and i sit on my ass a lot yeah like um and you're not meant to sit on your bum
like for six weeks afterwards so like right now i'd have to be like lead on my front if you're ever thinking about getting a bbl guys
don't do it oh no amazing thank you so much for coming and i'm super excited for your fight and
yeah i think you're gonna smash it thank you i think you're definitely gonna win so i'm excited
thank you and good luck for your marathon i know you'll smash it you'll come first definitely not they run like two hours affirmations i will be first
a lot of s620s on my hinge i'm gonna learn to honestly i don't know where they cut they're
like come out in full force