Girls Know Nothing - S2 Ep15: Miah Carter | Gaining Followers, Bullying & Body Positivity

Episode Date: May 17, 2023

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It's the dancing. No, it's not a bit of me. Welcome back to another episode of Girls Know Nothing. Our next guest may only be 19 years old, but has amassed an amazing total of almost 3.2 million followers on TikTok by sharing body positivity videos, as well as her beauty tips and advice. Myra is constantly challenging the online space and trying to educate everybody on why every

single person is beautiful in their own way. She has also been featured in some top British publications including the BBC, Glamour and Metro. By sharing her body positivity she was also picked to be part of the top 10 to fly to LA to be part of James Charles's painted collaboration. Maya has also been diagnosed with autism and has shared her experience of being raised in a low-income household and the struggles she faced from the ages of six. So welcome to the studio, Maya. I can't believe you've never done a... I actually can't believe this about a lot of TikTokers. They don't do podcasts or very rarely do podcasts because you guys are so natural in front of the camera.

I know. I'm actually quite shocked that I've never done a podcast before. I've always wanted to do one or with someone. So you got me first it's either i was gonna come out with my own one or i'm gonna go on someone's do you know what my best friend actually messaged me when i reshared your story and she was like i love this girl when's this episode coming out and i was like well you'll have to wait tina um but she's like a really big fan of of yours um actually like when i was planning this episode and i was going through stuff i you're so young first of all it makes me feel ancient 19 i turned 20 in 15 days i think 17 days 19th of may my god i feel old so um when i saw that i was like damn okay um and then but

like your childhood was not easy at all um and there were so many things like you're honestly a better person than me for being able to handle all of that stuff and then also being brave enough enough to share it um I mean I don't it's one of those things that's a really sensitive topic so I never really know how to approach it but you know what was it like growing up very tough different because when I was um going through like you know primary school secondary school so let's talk about front primary school so growing up from you know reception to year six I never had my diagnosis of autism so people be like why is she doing this type of stuff why am i acting this certain way and i would even question myself why i'm acting a certain way because you know i didn't know i

had autism until it was getting into like year five and six so you can imagine my whole kind of childhood to be honest you know i'm acting this type of way and no one would understand why um so it was very tough children can be really cruel as well yes they can um go on yeah i'm just thinking the comments i get on tiktok now from children the youngest i've had i've to tell me to go kill myself was a six-year-old yeah and it's like do you know i've always believed in is that you learn from your parents yeah Yeah. I'm sorry, you do. Like, you know, I learn a lot from my parents. So, yeah. What was it like with your parents,

like, trying to navigate your diagnosis? So my dad was, he was never a dad. My dad was never there. My mum was a dad, and my mum was a dad and mum. So my mum really pushed for it. Like, she went to the council and she screamed from the top of her voices you know this girl isn't right she we need you know help um and I think if it wasn't for her to do that then I wouldn't have understood how I am to this day

probably um so it's it was it's definitely been a massive journey and a struggle. Yeah. I mean, there's always so much debate on social media about growing up with a single parent household. And I always hear more about single mum households than single dad households. But what was that? How did that impact you? I felt very lonely. Well, I have four sisters and four brothers, five four brothers five brothers but only one of my sisters

lived with me so my sister my older sister left um to london she left when i was like i think it's like nine or ten um my brother um my oldest brother tyrone he left when i was six still can't find him to this day um and then my other middle-aged brother he lives with his mum and then my other siblings um on my dad's side so really it was just my you know my other sister Tisha so she was the struggles I was going through between me and my mum she was basically like another mum to me um yeah she helped me a lot you say struggles with your mum what were the struggles um so growing up again my mum as well didn't really understand why i was you know constantly having outbursts why i was ripping dolls heads off and burning my carpet when i was younger and doing

the most um you know my mum had a lot of relationship issues. You know, I see stuff at the age of, you know, nine and 10 and 11 and 12 that I should have never seen, you know, at that age. I got myself into really bad stuff when I was younger. And I don't think I had the support. Again, my sister was like another mum to me. But I'm not about to sit here and, you know,

like slate my mum because, you know, it's my mum. You know, without her, you know, I wouldn't be in this world. But I will... My mum definitely has to take some accountability of what she has done to me in the past. She has damaged me in some type of way because I see stuff at such a young age that I should have never saw and stuff.

So it does play a big part in me even today there's even there's always that thing that children should always forgive their parents because they're your parents but yeah sometimes it's just not possible no matter how much you love them you just can't because it lives with you forever yeah and I love my mum I do love her but I will I will always have you know see with me me, I forget, I forgive, but never forget. That's one thing with me, I will never forget, okay? And, you know, the stuff that she has done to me in the past, I will never forget, ever. But if she needs help now, you know, she's a 54-year-old woman, she lives at home with her two dogs.

So if she needs anything now I'm there but as I said what she's done to me in the past will always play a massive part in my life does it is it hard for you to like talk about that stuff now because I know on social media which we'll get on to later you're very open about everything yeah so I mean it does you know tickle me a bit but you know it is what it is this is you know I'm open about a lot of things because I know someone whoever's watching this or whoever's watching my account is someone's gone through that that so it will help someone you know I've love helping some love helping people if it wasn't for TikTok I would have been an ambulance assistant you know because I love

helping people I've always loved that you know feeling of achieving something like making someone smile so yeah so talk to me about your autism diagnosis you said that your mum had to really push for it and is that just because the like you felt like the school weren't really taking you seriously the school never took me seriously at all they it's sad the system failed me and it it it it makes me really emotional because I never knew why I was doing this type of stuff when I was younger and even to this sometimes to this day like I'm like like I don't get any help anymore like I left college as soon as I started TikTok I left college I left my job um you know I took a massive risk took a massive risk and growing up the system failed me so much and I'm not the only

one they failed so many young kids you know they feel they honestly feel like the parents are lying about why like that the children have autism because they always think it's just for the money no there are children out there that need that a diagnosis and need that help you know without an ehcp plan when you're in school so what do you know what an ehcp plan is no so what it is it's a plan that has all your diagnosis on it and tell it says on that plan like what your needs what like you need throughout school and if for example I don't know this is an example of mine so I can't be in a classroom of 30 um have to be in a classroom of five or less and I have to have everything written on a personal whiteboard um because I can't work off a massive whiteboard um because

I just lose concentration so that's in my EHCP plans and stuff like that without that the school won't take you seriously so you know it's been a massive struggle massive struggle you know and that's one thing about my mum for growing up in the back of my head my mum always was used to telling me like I'm never going to pass my GCSEs I'm never going to do this I'm never going to do that and I think that played a massive part as well in my life so that's why I didn't pass it because I always had that mentality like, I do not F the GCSEs and stuff because I'm not going to pass anyway. But I feel like if I did concentrate maybe a bit more and I had that, you know, that support, then I probably would have passed.

Like I got sent to an autistic school in year 10. No, end of year 9 to year 11. And I'm telling you this now it was the best two years of my life that's when I got fully diagnosed so you can imagine from reception to year 10 that's when I got diagnosed with my autism so my whole school year school years I've been failed like I've I've I had no help at all so it's been a massive massive struggle massive struggle that's why I started TikTok. What was the biggest struggle when you were in school pre-diagnosis? Um a lot of things to be honest I think it was more about so there's two parts the bullying

and the education side the education side it was really really it was a massive struggle massive struggle again I couldn't be in classes I was in all-girls school so I couldn't be in classes of a you know of 30 that's how many the max in the class was like 35 people and what they would do is is because back in back in I'm going to be so honest, okay, back in secondary school, I was a very loud person, I was a very fighty person, like, I was very fierce, like, I would walk around and stomp my way all around, and, like, effing and blind in here, and that, like, you wouldn't imagine I'm like that, you know, but I was like that in school, because I always thought that doing stuff like that was good, because no one told me no, no one told me don't do that because I didn't have any support um so the school would honestly just constantly put me in like isolation

constantly put me exclude me um I remember there was a time where they excluded me for two weeks just because they didn't want me in the school you know and I've done nothing wrong I think all I'd done was back chat to a teacher and they exclude me for two weeks you know um so again that's why i say this system fails majority of these you know majority of autistic kids um and it's sad and what was the bullying like at school oh my gosh i think i compare it to secondary and primary i'd say the secondary secondary school was worse but even the primary primary people kids can be mean people can be so mean especially being an old all girls school the bitchiness in all girls school oh my gosh girls can be mean like i'm like sis what like what's

your problem um so it's been it's been a massive massive journey but the bullying in secondary school you know i don't even know how to explain it like yeah yeah they're just mean like i just don't understand what what there's clearly something going on at home with yourself okay there's clearly like you clearly have problems you're reflecting your pain onto someone else and i can't lie i'm going to be so honest and i don't think i've spoken about this on my social media i have done that to other people okay you know you live and you learn all right and i have i have um you know reflected my pain onto other people you know because again growing up I thought that was okay, I thought that

was, you know, I didn't think it was a bad thing, you know, but really and truly it was, because again, I had no support, I had no help, no one to sit there and tell me, no, Maya, don't do that, you know, it's wrong, so you can imagine, obviously, growing up, it's been a massive, it's been, it's been a massive, massive struggle, but you know, there's been times throughout secondary school I've self-harmed I've tried to kill myself multiple multiple multiple times you know but I feel like even to even to today I definitely do let the bullies take over me a bit and that's what I need to teach myself I'm slowly but surely teaching myself but yeah what would you say to younger Maya now reach for the stars baby honestly I honestly if I had the confidence and the what's the word the confidence and like the the support I have now back in the past oh my god my life my life has

changed but I'm glad I went I'm you know I went through all these like ups and downs and all these struggles because now I know how to deal with them and and like reflecting back on the past you know and again telling my story to other people so you know as I said to you I'm open about anything you know yeah I saw in um glamour yes that um pre-starting tiktok you had 17 retail jobs i had 17 i thought i'd had a lot of retail jobs right let's talk about that so with me and again my autism i don't like being told no so i have um i think it's called add autism autism deficient disorder i think that's okay i think that's what it is where you don't like being told no i don't think anyone likes being told no but basically what that is is where again you don't like being told no and like i get really like um what's the word as soon as someone's rude

to me i'm like f off fuck you i don't like you go away yeah you know so that goes down well with customer service i can't lie though i can't i can't lie i can't lie the customers did love me because i was honest i was true you're like you're right love you want to need you want a bag you know like do you like to howling do you want it like i'm not like i'm like i'll be my true self like and um i think that's why customers used to love me but the managers didn't so what happened was as soon as a manager was rude to me or like my i don't do this bye physically bye like i literally was like i quit that must be the time where i just tied my shoe but i put my shoe on like one of the sofas and he's like you can't tie

your shoelace on the sofa i'm gonna be so honest with you i was like fuck off i'm going i left has a fraser did me bad man how did you even get another job with like the references don't i don't honestly i honestly don't know i think at the time when i was there he was temporary manager so he left so i think i don't just got away with it got away with it i've been i've worked at like all the makeup stations in boots um but again i was through under agency i've worked at foot asylum i've worked at stevenson's stevenson's was the worst you know so stevenson's is you know the way you get your school clothes from you ever heard of stevenson's so it's like um so in redding they've got like i don't know if it's in other places but it's like a where you buy like your your skirts and your shirt so like you know like um for example you're going to you know what i was a

naughty kid at school so i didn't wear proper school uniforms that's probably why i don't know what it is so it's like when you have like the logos on oh you need like the logos printed on it's like that type of shops because you can't get it from asda i always used to go to those weird shops like in the middle you know there's there's that mall in Reading near where Primark used to be. Yeah. Yeah, and there'd be like those random shops that sell like really tight trousers. Oh, okay. I used to wear them in school.

No way. So I never used to wear normal. So do you not remember Jackson's Corner? Yeah. Yeah, so that Jackson's Corner was now, it's now called Stevenson's. So I've probably seen you walking out of your job. Probably. But I've had a good few jobs um that cv of yours must be my cv's big um but it's it's it's you know it's all right it's all right is it no

well i think because you'd been diagnosed at that point did none of your like employers ever consider your autism in your job i know this is really bad but i never told him i had autism because i okay yeah i think that's why i went wrong i never told him i had autism because back then when i was applying for jobs they never took people who had special needs and it would like i knew i knew i wouldn't get the job if i said i had special needs um which is sad to be honest but yeah and yeah i didn't put on any of my cv that i had special needs that's that's really sad and then maybe do you ever think like if you had told them you would have probably stayed at one a bit longer no because as soon as someone talked as soon as the manager was rude to me honestly as soon as someone's rude to me it's like in school

that's why i was so like sometimes rude to teachers because as soon as i get told off i'm just like effing and blinded like oh leave me alone did you ever work at a fast food chain never that's what i didn't do yeah yeah you wouldn't have lasted no i wouldn't have but it's crazy i just don't understand why managers have to be so rude to their employers like they're like yeah like why for me it was always customers was it yeah for me it was my managers oh okay we obviously worked at very different places we might have worked really randomly i used to work at benefit in boots and redden no way i didn't work there but you know the one behind it cosmetics i swear okay i'm a lot older than you though so i didn't accept it for benefit

you didn't accept work no i no wait hold up i did work for benefit but under an agency so like did it do you know like them agencies are yeah yeah so like they would like just call you in when you need then there's no one no help so i think i worked on there like a few i think i worked on like a few times but i don't realize i was working on there you literally would have been in primary school and i worked there though to be fair um like i was like 17 so you literally would have been in primary school but um like going from all of that and all your retail jobs, starting TikTok because your boyfriend said you should. So there must have been one day. So, well, let's start from the beginning. I had social media before.

I was on Instagram. I had Musical.ly. And then TikTok came around when Musical.ly stopped. And I always thought that TikTok was so cringy. It's the dancing, that's how it started, isn't it? It's the, no, it's not a bit of me. Like, what are you doing? So I had Instagram, I was doing like special effects

because I really wanted to do like, you know, like behind the scenes makeup and like, I don't know, people, you know, going to the met gala or something like doing their makeup or stuff like that um but it just never really picked up no one really picks it up so i stopped it for a bit and i was capped at literally like two and a half yeah 2 500 followers literally i was capped at around that much i wasn't gaining any um so there must have been one day i was on a bus with my boyfriend and i just broke up crying he's like why are you crying for i said because i because I want to, you know, I've always had that mentality

of want to become famous, I've always had a mentality that I want to be in the spotlight, and if it wasn't for social media, I was going to do acting, you know, when I was at college, I'd done, like, my level two acting, I was in the West End when I was younger, I'd done stage coach, I'd done all that stuff, and being autistic, I couldn't, I also have short-term memory loss, so I couldn't remember the lines or anything, I was really, really struggling, so that was a no-go, so then again, that's why I started TikTok, and that, so again, I was on the bus with my boyfriend, and I just cried to him, I said, listen, I want want to be like i had a certain friend that literally was she's like she's kind of not my close friend but she went sky high within a few amount of videos like she gained a million followers like within a few months like half a

year so um i was like i want to be like her my boyfriend said dry eye okay shut up basically and while you sat here crying yeah you want to you know follow your dreams and you want to hit that goal then go home and go and fucking hit that goal don't know that's wrong here oh yeah people have done worse on here to be fair yeah so go fucking hit that goal so um that's what i did and he basically just like the whole journey he's just been there. No one else but him. And he, honestly, hands up to him, man. He has been amazing. Like, that conversation on the bus, I will always remember.

You know, he literally, like, hugged me and was like, listen, you can do it. You know, reach for the stars and go reach your dreams and stuff, you know. So he said, listen, you're not going to be gaining followers from posting one video here one video there okay you're going to gain followers if you're consistent and that's what i did i was consistent you know and then look at me now i'm at three nearly 3.2 million yeah but i like there was i think i was reading there was one day where you gained 30 000 in a day so um that was because when i first started tits like i made a video of me crying um and i was like i want to start a journey i cry a lot

i just realized i cry let it out cry a lot man i'm so emotional um and basically i just cried a video cried on a video and was like i want to start doing like a journey and stuff i want to start doing a weight loss journey and then it literally got like millions of views in like one day i woke up and i was like she had like my followers are going up went up and up and i was like oh my gosh and that's when i quit college that's when i quit my job i was like bye i know this is going to be my full-time job i know this is going to be like my job um so that's literally what i've done um and i went from there to be honest and i started doing a weight loss journey and it got really toxic um because i wasn't being true to

myself and i wasn't being true to my followers um so i just was like do you know what let me put something out on social media you don't really see on a day-to-day basis you don't see people showing their back rolls and their belly and their cellulite and stuff so I was like you know let me be unfiltered let me put something out that people need to see and the world needs more of you know so that's what I've done and it's been more successful than doing a weight loss journey so and I love it people call me their inspiration i see people in the streets constantly you know as soon as i came in there's a girl like oh i love your tiktoks you know it's such a nice feeling such a nice feeling do you find it weird like to consider yourself an inspiration to someone yeah do you feel like a lot of pressure a little bit yeah because again my younger self i was a

complete if you knew me when I was in secondary school, you'd be like, is this the real Maya, like, this is a whole different person, like, are you Maya, like, I am, like, I was literally two different people, two different people, and one thing I will give TikTok, it has changed the way I speak the way I've matured it's it's changed the way it's kind of helped my autism I was on medication and being on TikTok has helped more than my medication I know it's crazy to say but like it really has like I've learned stuff on social media I'm just be so wrong so sorry I've learned more on social media than I have in school it's I like do you know what actually you're not the first person said that

to me and i think it's because the you're free to do your own journey when you're on yeah social media yourself and it is it can be a very toxic nasty place to be but there are some things and some parts of it yeah that are amazing and i think that people don't necessarily talk because bad stories sell more than good stories but it's like you were saying you weren't true to yourself in the beginning but why why did you feel like you weren't true to yourself because i was lying a lot i was eating more than i then i was post i was eating more than what i was showing um i just wasn't it was getting really toxic because i'd wake up I'd be like I need to make this video I need to do this I need to do that and I'll just feel like a certain type of way like I wasn't

feeling good how I do how I feel when I like make my body positive to you once because my my videos I post now actually help myself you know so yeah do you think a lot of people lie about what they're eating on social media um that's a good question i'm gonna say yeah i am gonna say yeah because you know social media there's a whole lot of like salad bowls and smoothie bowls and stuff but like i know that i don't always eat like that yeah i ate 20 chicken nuggets yesterday i had a chinese last night oh there you go then but like but i wouldn't share that i wouldn't share a video of me eating 20 chicken nuggets yeah that's what i mean but then people always like really hyper focus on the like nice side of your life as opposed to the bad side and that's

where that's where the toxic is the word toxic toxicity is that even a word i actually don't know toxic somewhere that's where the toxicness comes in with social media there's this massive stigma on social media at the moment where you need to look a certain way where you need to be a certain way where you need to act a certain way eat as i said eat a certain way like as you said with salad bowls and stuff but really truly they eat 20 chicken nuggets do i mean so yeah it needs to stop and i thought you know people like me people like you you know are helping this this how to explain it community and social media trying to change the ways of it i think tiktok is probably one of the most toxic places i've ever seen though and when anybody posts any

form of body positivity whether you're slim whether you're a curvier person it's it's hard but particularly when you're on the like when you are a curvier person, they are nasty. And how, like having obviously gone through bullying at school to now having to experience it as an adult in your day-to-day job, how do you manage that? How do I manage the bullying and stuff? Because let's be honest, in the internet, it's relentless. Like at school, when you left school, it pretty much stopped. I mean, for me it did because there was no internet but for you i've been a bit different but when it's online it doesn't matter

whether you're at home whether you're in the street it's always there definitely i've been like verbally and physically abusing the streets because of tiktok because tiktok yeah um it's it's been when i first went on when i first went on, when I first came on social media, I always thought, yeah, social media is a good place, gonna make new friends, no, honey, no, I didn't, you know, um, I, again, nearly committed suicide three, four times, you know, I ended up in hospital quite a lot of times, because, again, because I let the comments take over me you know so it's been a massive journey it's been a massive struggle um with that side but now i see a comment i'm psyched don't fuck off fuck you is that just because you've been on it a lot longer yeah yeah like there is a video and i'm

not even joking with you there's one video that's probably got like 12 million views and i'm telling you now there's like 10 000 comments i don't know whether it's because of me the the way my comment section is but i'm scrolling i'm scrolling i'm scrolling and every single comment is a hate comment and i think at the bottom is like a few like you know that mix and like jumbled up at the bottom like there's like a good few positive comments but there's a video that i've had it's still going around to this day that people are not nice how does it make you feel to be assaulted whether it's verbally or physically in the street because of your job um it makes me really upset how we have these horrible people in this world you know you're clearly mentally ill you know something wrong with you um so it's it's

upsetting it is really upsetting you know when i did get there remember when i did get verbally abused in the street um you know and walking past there's a group of like 20 people and saying fatty this and fatty that and that it did make me feel like really really upset really upset um but if i got it now i would just blow fuck off was this when you were a lot younger because you've been doing tiktok for three years yeah three years two and a half years i think yeah two and a half years if it was now as i said it i'm fine i don't really care whatever whatever. But again, back then, it did. Like, it really affected me. Really affected me. So what would you...

Do you ever think that it would change, though? No. That even when you sit here and tell people that you've wanted to take your life, you don't think that's ever going to stop people saying things to you? No. Social media will never change.

People never change. You know, you can't cure someone's addiction, if that makes sense. You can't cure, you know, someone people clearly like to have this thrill of bullying people, you know, and you can't, how do I put on social media about anti-bullying and stuff like that and don't bully people, you know, some people, it will change the way they think. But the majority of the people, you know, it definitely won't completely stop them from bullying people. You know, I've actually had my haters DM me and said, I'm so sorry for bullying you and this and that. And we've spoken. I don't hate my haters. I don't. Because there's clearly something going on in your life.

Message me. If you have a problem with me, message me and we can talk it out. I don't hate anyone haters I don't because there's clearly something going on in your life message me if you have a problem with me message me we can talk it out I don't hate anyone I don't hold grudges and that you know and this is where you know this is where I get a bit confused because there's so many people on social media that don't like me influencers and some followers you know and I'm just like if you met me in person and I and we spoke I'm such a loving and caring you know not trying to toot my own horn but you know um you know person I'm such a down to earth person I really really am you know I give the world to anyone for example like if I had a thousand pound in my bank and for example you you didn't have any money for one month I'd give my thousand pound to you you know because you're struggling you know i'm that type of person you know that's how i've been

brought up so and i think that again that's where i've gone wrong a bit because even to this day like if anyone need anything they can come to me money advice anything and i feel like that people take a lot advantage of me but it's how I've been brought up, because my mum's the same. Yeah, well, at least it's nice to know that the world is also giving you things back. Yeah. Because you recently came back from LA.

Yay! Where you were picked to be one of the faces of James Charles' Painted campaign. Yes. Tell me about that, because I actually don't know much about the campaign itself. So, basically, James posted a video to pick 10 crayons to fly out to LA.

And I thought, do you know what? This is 10,000s of people have entered. I ain't going to get this. I remember seeing a few uh famous people do this before and I've entered and I've never got it um so I thought you know what fuck this I'm not doing this um and one day my friend messaged me on Instagram he's like oh have you entered the thingy um I've had quite a few messages like enter enter and people were tagging me in his video I was like oh right guys you clearly want me to enter so So I'm going to enter. So I did.

He was like, you have to wear makeup. Wear your favorite makeup look. Tell me why you love makeup. I'm not even joking. You know, I think I had took my bonnet off my head and I was like, hi guys, right? This is why I want to enter. It was the most chilled video ever.

And I got picked. I was really, really shocked that I got picked. But I'm going to tell you this now. I've met a lot of celebrities, a lot of celebrities, especially in his industry. James is one of the most nicest people I've ever met in my life. He is so caring, so nice, so down-to-earth, so funny. And I feel like people look at him in such a wrong way,

you know, regardless of what anything what what's happened you know in the past he is such a loving person really really nice so really nice when you flew out to la what happened so when we flew out to la um it was a 10 hour flight no 11 did you not get a put in first class no that's one thing i didn't, no, so. We know you've got the money, James. Why did you not put the girl in first class? James, listen, yeah,

if you were watching this. I would die, first of all. No, I was fine about it, but I did upgrade. I upgraded to first class. I took my boyfriend with me,

so he was so happy. So I upgraded him as well. He was loving it. Had the beds where you lay down and everything but it was nice but when we got to la um we got checked into our hotel i didn't see him the first day me and my boyfriend was absolutely tired we were shattered so we literally went to chick-fil-a and got food and then came back to the hotel and fell asleep and then when we got up in the morning there was what do we do there was a hike first thing

in the morning to go watch this go see seven o'clock in the morning no six in the morning to go and walk up the hollywood um that sounds fun though i was like no i've got a problem with my knee um i'm not coming i'm sorry i'm not coming i do have a problem with my knee but i was like no i'm not a morning person um so they done that and then when they came back we had like an activity to do in like in the evening bit and was like a um tour bus and that's when we see him um so we like done a tour like of a whole of la um it was really really nice um he took us around there um the next day was actual photo shoot oh my gosh it was amazing it was so good um there was he treated us like really well we had like our own like robes there with our name on it and that and he gave us so much stuff like so lovely so

it's a down to earth i'd expect it if you'd have flown 10 hours out there say it again wait what flown 10 hours to la oh you should think you get it's a nice nice little robe but would you say that that experience is like the highlight of your career so far yeah yeah it was been amazing but it's been the biggest thing i've ever done biggest thing that and then my maybelline photo shoot that i've done um but that was incredible let me just pick up that name that you just dropped there i didn't even know you did that i know I literally I've done quite a few things with them Maybelline is one of the best brands I've ever worked with in my whole entire life like they are so inclusive they are so loving they're caring and like I've never felt so accepted by a brand

in my life like they even just by them like the people that work for Maybelline they're amazing and I must have done like a few photo shoots with them the first photo shoot I'd done with them was like uh I don't know if you see it there was like um it was like on it was I was everywhere I was like all over the TikTok ads and we were like I can't even remember it now it was like um I had to do like dances and stuff you know when you got to do the awkward dance thing that you just said you didn't like doing you know like we got to do that awkward like the like the fake laughs um but it was really really good um i done that and then that was on a few tv adverts and i walked into the oracle and i actually see my face on that was amazing moment

and then um it was like on like a lot of like social media ads and then i done another um photo shoot for them but it was like at home one i had to do and then literally one day i had one of my followers message me i'm like you're in super drug i was like what this was at my top of my bucket list to be in a storefront and it happened with super drug yes what's the what is the next goal for you then if you've completed that one already so my next goal is to have my own book um i'll tell you a few of my goals but my biggest goal is to have my own book um i really um i want to be on a billboard um i want to have my own talk show my own podcast i've got loads of dreams yeah well i've got too much what would you write your book about? So it'd be about confidence, body positivity, self-love, relationship advice.

It'd be a book where people can come and feel safe. It'll be a book where people can relate to a lot. It'd be a lot of advice in the book. It'd be about me. There'll be stuff in that book that I've never ever told anyone before. Especially on social media, like it'll be a lot of things that will be in that book um and i'm

really really excited so yeah what would you say to somebody that was listening that basically was a younger version of yourself like what advice would you give to them right now is to be consistent and reach for your dreams do it if you have a dream do it honestly for example if you have a dream to become an ambulance assistant make sure you put a lot of work in and do it because it is one of the best things I've ever done in my life it really is like a lot of hard work like if someone said to me can you give me as you what you just said I'd honestly just be like reach for your dreams you can do it you know don't let anyone tell you different don't anyone like get in the way of it because it's possible and that person that tells you to do it should also get a first-class flight to lo yes james um what would so i always end my podcast on a similar final question and it's what would

you tell to people in the past or people in the future like your haters that doubt your success based on the fact that you're a woman i don't hate you but fuck you i mean she's said it with chest really she can't drop the mic because it's attached to a post um yeah i don't hate you but you know you've made me stronger and i'm glad what you've done because look at me now exactly i'm learning more than your mom i don't know what to say now i mean it's true no but i do love the job i do i really really do and i'm so grateful for everyone that follows me i really don't care about money. What me is, is as long as I make someone smile,

that is my job's complete. Like I really don't care about money at all. You know, when I get brand deals come in and I'm like, yeah, cool, whatever. You know, I'll do anything for free. Anything for free. I really would do. Like this podcast.

Honestly, I'll do anything for free because I know like when I get my story out there, I know it's going to touch someone. I know it's going to inspire someone. So, you know, there's a lot free because I know like when I get my story out there I know it's gonna touch someone I know it's gonna inspire someone so you know there's a lot of people I get like oh you're doing this for money you're doing this for that no like babes I don't I really don't care about money you know I was brought up with no money I came from a background with no money and you know one thing my mum did do she did bring me up right with that in that end you know i'd money in a problem at all so no that's really nice here and i do you know what it's so i i first time i met

you i was like she's so sweet so i always get really worried when you see people that have really big followers they're not yeah as nice they see them online but you you genuinely are and thank you thank you for being like letting me be the first podcast host that has you um and yeah i can't wait to see you on your billboard and your book yeah um hopefully on a tv show soon love to do that or my own podcast or something yeah something i mean go for it but then maybe when you do that take me on the flight yeah taking your boyfriend's place for that one flight sorry but no i hope this whatever whoever's listening is took away and took some good advice like took my advice and feel good so yeah amazing yeah thank you you're welcome

my favorite bit is when she's like i owe more money than your mom um no it's true though