Girls Know Nothing - S2 Ep16: Jessie Wynter | Life after Love Island, ADHD & The Future Of Offline Fitness

Episode Date: May 24, 2023

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next guest if not by her face then you'll definitely recognize her by her accent from season nine of itV's hit dating show Love Island and coupled up with the famous Farmer Will, Jessie gave us a taste of that Aussie fire back in South Africa earlier this year. Alongside being a TV personality Jessie is also a qualified personal trainer and wants to change the way that we view the fitness industry. She wants to help people fall in love with themselves and with exercise in a healthy way. So welcome to the studio Jessie. Does it feel weird to be here on your own? Yeah it's like where's Will? I don't know if I'm ready for like Will and you together because I feel like

that's a lot. Oh yeah we've got two big personalities so. Does that does that work though because normally when you see couples like one's the introvert one's the extrovert. So I'd say I'm more introverted. I'm like an introverted extrovert. Okay. Yeah. So I'm like, I can be really, really loud and out there, but it takes a while for me to warm up. So it's really nice having Will

because he's that really extroverted personality and he brings that confident extroverted side out of me. So it's a good balance. So obviously you met Will through Love Island, but everyone knows that you were on Australia and Love Island beforehand. And I've had so many people ask me questions about the differences between the two

and like how you got to being on the UK one. So what made you want to apply to Australia in the first place? Okay, so yeah, so I was 22 when I did the application for Love Island Australia. And I'd just gone through a breakup. But the breakup was about nine months before. And I'd been with that guy for years and I was so heartbroken. It was nine months later.

He'd moved on and I was like, I don't know what to do. So I just like applied for Love Island. At this point, I hadn't even watched Love Island. Like I didn't even know what I was like, I don't know what to do. So I just like applied for Love Island. At this point I hadn't even watched Love Island. Like I didn't even know what I was actually applying for. Did it as sort of like a piss take. Like I was just like, eh, do this. Applied for like Miss Universe Australia and just was doing all these random things. Applied to go to the army or police force.

Like girl was just having a full reset and out of all the things to come back to me Love Island Australia actually did um so I continued to do the process and before I knew I was casted for it and at this point like I literally didn't even know what I was in for the only reality tv shows I had watched before were Big Brother Australia and Geordie Shore. Two very different shows, right? Yeah. But how did it come about that you were going to the UK one then? So I was actually approached and it was not that long before I actually went.

It was pretty sudden. Okay. So yeah, someone just one of my producers from Love Island Australia pretty much just reached out to me and said are you still single I was like yes I've been single since I came off your show and then then you were just on a flight to Africa and pretty much yeah so I had like a few Skype calls and whatnot and I didn't really I feel like before I went on Love Island UK, I was so happy and content with where I was in my life. I really hated being single.

I was like on the hunt for a boyfriend. I said to my friend, I was like, I'm getting a boyfriend before I turn 27 because I'm sick of it. The universe is bringing this to me. I'm manifesting this. So it was pretty random that I just randomly got this offer for Love Island UK. But yeah, a couple Skype interviews. Obviously, we had to do like the psychology tests and all the standard testing that you

have to do to go on a reality show. And I still just like kept myself like, oh, if I go, that'll be fun. But if not, you know, my life's pretty good where I am. And before I knew it, it actually happened. So yeah. I feel like with stuff like that, it just very quickly it did happen very quick and even when like my I got even when the producer like reached out to me I was like yeah like that won't happen I was in Bali and I was like oh yeah living our best life in Bali no it's um it's really weird it must have

been did you ever have to sit there and think about actually doing it or was it just an instant yes because even if you go in with a game plan of like I want to get followers I want to be famous there is also a possibility that you could meet someone but they're British so you would have to like work out the logistics of a relationship so it's actually crazy that I ended up going because I was so close to not I was so happy with where I was and I the thought of actually going to a different country really scared me and the thought of finding finding a connection and having to commit to coming over here um when I actually sat down and thought about it I was like do I really want to go through

coming off a reality tv show again because it's intense when you come off two and it's a massive change to your life. And it had been three years since Love Island Australia. And I was like, I feel like I've separated myself from that Love Island image. I'm myself. I'm settling back into normal life. Like I actually do want kids in the next, you know, five to 10 years. Is going on Love Island again at the age of 26 going to rewind me back to where I was. So I came very close to actually not going because

of that factor. But then on the other hand, I was like, if I went on the show and I didn't find a connection, I do get to come back to Australia and the show's in the UK so I get to go back to my home and fingers crossed things would go back to normal for me if that's what I wanted and if I didn't find love so in hindsight there wasn't I kind of balanced it out and I was like look worse comes to worse I just come back to Australia single and if I do find love it'll be worth the move yeah I guess well I actually have never seen an episode of Love Island Australia so I don't even know if it's as big or as intense or you know the following and the reaction is the same as is in the UK because we're upset we're like a nation

obsessed and I'm sure you don't know that now when you leave the street when you leave the house so I'm like a very much just a I kind of am a bit of an airhead. Like I just do things. I don't want to, I have two ways of going with things. I either overthink it or I'm just like, okay, let's not overthink it and just don't think about it at all. So I kind of switched into this mode. I was just like, let's just go, go with the flow,

switch your brain off from all these overwhelming thoughts, go on it, see where you end up. When it came to being in the end of the flow, switch your brain off from all these overwhelming thoughts, go on it, see where you end up. When it came to being in the end of the villa, some other people in the villa were speaking about like, oh, like you're going to get recognised in the street. And that just clicked to me and I was like, this is a lot bigger than I think, isn't it, in the UK? Because in Australia, like I'm from the country,

you can kind of retreat back to where you're from and I could just kind of hide away so it was a bit of a shock at how big Love Island Love Island UK is over here it's um a lot of the questions I had actually from people were about like what life is like now in the UK that you're like moving it's not even like you've just moved another country in Europe you've literally moved from the other side of the world yeah have you actually moved like have you guys decided to settle here or there yeah I'm just winging it so I don't really know what our plans going forward are but I am loving the UK like I think the UK is just amazing I it's just so fun Australians love the UK and I

just don't get it no No, I love it here. So I will have to go back to Australia, visit my family, swap my suitcases over finally. Still got all my Love Island bikinis and whatnot. But I do plan to come back to the UK. I don't necessarily know where we would 100% settled, but right now we are very much settled at the farm. Like I've been living there for the past month and a bit. So, and it's been nice like going back to the farm instead of being in the city.

I think that is one thing. If I had have like come back and gone straight into the fast-paced London life, I just don't know if I would have been able to cope with that. But Will and I obviously just adore each other. And we've just been spending wholesome times out on the farm with his family. And whilst it is the other side of the world, it is actually a similar lifestyle to what I had in Australia. Yeah. So I grew up in Tasmania right at the bottom, hour away from my school. Like I'm like proper bottom of the world. So countryside.

So it kind of feels like a home away from home, which is nice. So that's like really scary because you I'm assuming you've moved in with like Will's family so you've literally gone from like not knowing this guy to like in the matter of like a couple of months now living with his family yeah yeah and I think that's why things got so intense in the villa as well because Will and I cared about each other so much but there's also that factor of being in the villa I was like what if we get out and he's like I don't like you I was just tricking you like you don't know because you're in that bubble so I think towards the end of the villa I started to get so stressed and anxious

because I was like I really like I'm in love with this guy I don't know if we're gonna get out of the villa and he's gonna be like jokes you can't come to the farm and I'm like oh this is gonna be so sad it's like oh that's the thing as well people don't really realize is that you don't actually know like what the plan is or what someone else is thinking and it's so hard when you're spending 24 hours a day with that person no and like you're in that villa you don't know anything about them other it's you're taking everything for face value and that's really hard that's really scary and I think the fact that I'd been on Love Island Australia made it scarier

because I knew what it was like coming out and I knew that people do change when you come out so I just had this big fear factor that like if we come out maybe he'll be different maybe he won't like me maybe he doesn't even want a relationship but the villa, I was just so in love with him that, yeah, it was really scary. Random question. Love Island Australian boys or Love Island UK boys? Will. Will is the answer.

Safe answer there. I was hoping I was going to get a juicy one there. But, no, like were you ever – meeting someone's parents, meeting someone's family is scary living with them is like a completely different ball game was that not are you not terrified do you know what I think I was terrified but like I said before when I start to get like when I start overthinking things I just switch it off in my brain so it was like there was a period where I was like oh this is really scary this is stressful anxiety started creeping up and then I was like all right let's just not think about it

and just go in like switch that flick off and don't think about it so I kind of just maybe I was running on adrenaline or something I don't know you're a braver woman than me because I would have my commitment issues would have been like nope time, time to leave. But it's, I always want to talk, I've had quite a few Love Islanders like in the studio and I always want to talk about their plans afterwards. And, you know, you've spoken about how you'd worked so hard previously to try and move yourself away from like that stigma that people associate with Love Island. And you are a personal trainer, qualified. And you want to go back into like doing the fitness industry

stuff a lot of people were like when is she gonna come back with the fitness content because we're waiting and I was like guys I don't know what you want me to do with that but like what is what do you see life after Love Island looking like I definitely want to go back into fitness fitness is like my passion I've loved it like ever since I was a kid I'd be like 10 years old making my seven-year-old sister come do workouts in the backyard like run around the backyard and do little relays and stuff like that's just always been a huge part of me so I really would love to go back into that I think at the moment Will and I have been so focused on grounding ourselves and making sure that like

we are a strong couple still so pretty much for us us, like it was like, let's focus on us. Let's get settled back into normal life. Keep humble, working on the farm. We've done a nice romantic holiday. Keep the love alive. So once we're feeling a little bit more settled, that's when I'd probably look at going back into the fitness side of things and I really love doing fitness and training face-to-face I know a lot of it is online now I have fitness content I will get there eventually um but I would love to start doing face-to-face again just because I think it's so lovely being able to interact with your clients and I just love that side of it like the social aspect of it so you would you see go see yourself in the gym being a

person yeah baby I love the gym that's really weird you normally hear about celebrity clients but not necessarily celebrity pts so would you I don't know like I guess your gym's not far away from me so maybe you can be my pt oh done done deal but like is is that do you want to just go back into like training face to face or like what is the bigger picture for you like what is your biggest ambition I would love to bring as much of my fitness knowledge to other people so you know having a look at what I can do down the avenues of social media yes but I think for me personally first I want to start off by getting back into the gym just because like it also is really beneficial for me and my mental health to get out I just don't I love social media and what it does but I think for me I love I'm a hands-on person so I love to be there and present

so getting back into the gym is my first stop um coaching clients face to face and then down the track we'll have a look and see what we can do social media wise You said about your mental health a lot one of the questions I was asked for you is about your anxiety. Yeah. And how did you find going to the gym like how did you figure that out that that was a coping mechanism for your anxiety? Yeah I feel like because going working out literally releases endorphins and I feel like a lot of people can even relate to gym anxiety so people you're scared to go to the gym but once you go there it's fine you do your workout and then you feel good afterwards you can kind of apply that to generalized anxiety and normal life so when I

started out in the gym I was like I don't want to go in here it's too scary you've got people lifting weights over there I'm not going to be as good as them for yourself in I'd go do my workout and I'd feel so good afterwards. So I take that little process and apply that to managing my anxiety in real life. It's like my anxiety tells me I don't want to do things but I remind myself once I actually get there and do it I'm going to feel so good afterwards. And the gym is just like releases natural endorphins, it's so good for you, it's a time for you to sit and focus on yourself.

You're kind of, you can put a podcast on, you can put music on and just relax. I know that you're also talking about how you do love social media, but you prefer to be face-to-face. We know that there's a lot of like fitness influencers and fitness content out there. Do you ever find a lot of the content that is out there

can be quite toxic to people yes I do so I got caught in this trap when I was younger as well um I think it's it's really hard because there is a lot of great fitness content out there um a lot of people that have great knowledge but I just think they need sometimes you need to be mindful in the way it's conveyed because some people can take the advice they're given quite literally. I remember when I was like 18 years old and I saw a fitness influencer say,

if you wanna lose weight, just lower your calories. So what did I do? I lowered my calories. And what did I do after that? I just kept lowering, lowering, lowering. And it just, that was really unhealthy advice. Even the advice from fitness trainers being like, the way for fat loss is calorie deficit.

Same thing. it can be quite toxic and I don't think people will necessarily mean for it to be toxic but people when they want something they will just pick small bits of information that they want to and almost obsess over it and I yeah it's really sad so that's one thing as well if I were to bring my fitness content to social media I do want to make sure I do it in a way that really reflects my stance and my views on fitness and I just I don't want it to be damaging because I know when I was a young girl obsessing over these people on social media and their fitness content I went down that path and the thing is you can look at your favorite fitness influences

you can see exactly what they eat in a day how they work out but the thing is genetics have such a big part to play everybody's bodies everybody's bodies are different you're not going to look like your favorite influencer even if you ate like her and worked out like her it's yeah what are your thoughts on influencers selling like um workout plans because not a lot of them are qualified that's really awful if they're not qualified no so yeah this is some this is an avenue that I just it really does frustrate me because people just don't understand how damaging it can be and that's something I'll never do I will never flog a exercise routine or program just to make money off it because it is so damaging, so bad.

I feel like, but I will be so honest, if someone came to me and asked for fitness advice, the first questions I would ask them is, what's your sleeping pattern like? Because before we even get you doing an exercise routine, you need to get your sleeping pattern right.'m not going to make money off telling them to that they need their eight hours sleep but these small things are what is going to achieve their actual fitness goals not sitting on your bedroom floor doing 500 crunches or whatever people are trying to sell it's like um do you think it's down to the pressures that social media put on particularly young women to look a certain way yeah I feel like health isn't

about fitness it's not about having abs health is a rounded thing so there are like I love the approach of the four pillars of health so you've got your mental health you've got exercising like physical health we've got sleep and relaxation which is so important which are actually two which I just combined but yeah so you've got your four pillars of health health is a rounded thing if you have good mental health you're more likely to have better physical health if you're rested you're more likely to be less stressed if you're getting good sleep it all ties in together your Your mental health will be better. Your physical health will be better. Selling a workout program that just tells you to work out for 40 minutes a day or whatnot, that's not going to achieve overall health.

And your mental health is just as important as your physical health. And when you are sleeping and you're relaxed, you're able to think better. When you're able to think better, you make better decisions, you end up eating better and you're probably going to be more motivated to exercise so for me it is like an all-rounded thing and I don't see blogging little exercise routines at people as the way to achieving health you were talking about how you used to look at fitness influencers and like literally cherry pick what they were doing and lowering your calories what made you want to do that in the first place I know I do you know what so it does it kind of comes from a place of not being confident within myself and that's also another thing as well when it does come to the whole fitness industry online it's like I felt

like I wasn't good enough but I felt like that person on social media was good enough and she was pretty enough so what did I want to do I wanted to be like her instead of loving and appreciating what I was it's a really dangerous trap to fall into and it's taken me a long time to get to where I am with my confidence and my mental health and my physical health but once I really started to actually build on my confidence and loving myself that's when my physique my physique essentially became more fitter and stronger because I was loving myself and respecting myself I wasn't forcing myself to do workout programs I have no passion behind for no reason I wanted to exercise because I knew it made me feel

good it's what so I mean I don't know if you've noticed it yet but when you leave a show like Love Island UK you get loads of like a flurry of young women I'd be like how do you how are you so confident yeah and what would you say to those people if they were to ask you now like Jessie how are you so confident I don't even know I feel like it is quite sad people ask me how I am so, but like they don't see the meltdown I have before I leave the house or yeah, I feel like for me, what really drives me to be confident is because I know I can make other people smile and I can inspire hopefully other people to be confident. I don't feel confident all the time, but I know that confidence and happiness and

vibrance that rubs off on other people and that's exactly what I want to do I want other people to say that you know we're all different like we all deserve to be confident and happy within ourselves and I do like a lot of journaling positive affirmations and just reminding myself that even on those days where I don't feel as confident like I'm still worthy everyone's worthy and I think you've got to treat yourself like you'd treat your best friend if you would not say something to your best friend don't say it to yourself like you can't be mean to yourself because in hindsight you're the one person you're stuck with like no matter where you go in life you're going to be stuck with you

so treat yourself like your best friend because essentially when you do see yourself as someone you love, you'll be able to be so much more happier and bring happiness to other people. No, I'm going to pull out my phone where the Instagram questions. Lots of people ask me questions about AFL. AFL?

Oh, we love AFL. Are you a big AFL fan? Yes, I love AFL. So that's Aussie Rules Football. I literally have about a million and one questions about your like area getting their own team. let's go Tassie I was like why are people asking me about this that is really random I literally don't know anything about it okay so in Australia football for us is our own Australian sport it's called Australian Football League um you can bounce the ball kick the ball run with a tackle mark

it's like a mixture of everything it is my favorite sport I played it for a while loved it and every state in Australia has a team except the state I'm from which is Tasmania and it has just been announced that they're getting a state which which I am so – a state. They're getting a team, which I am so excited about. I can tell by the elevation and the pitch and your voice. You're like, I'm so excited. No one over here knows about AFL. So it's like you guys say football and that's soccer to us. Okay.

Yeah. I was like, why are so many people asking about AFL? I was like, I don't know what this is. And I had to like google it um obviously you and Will went to Paris yes recently lots of people asking you about the wedding hints you guys made on social media I think we accidentally made those wedding hints okay so you're not getting married no there's no wedding planned at this stage but you did say you wanted kids in the next five years so yeah would you want to be married before or after I don't know I probably would want to be

married before just because I feel like oh that's actually a really tough question and I'm asking you without Will so Will can't say anything like if Will was here he'd be just be like yep we're getting married we're having kids oh really so he's not like the freaked out type no it's the other way around he freaks me out about it I think it's a baby thing that freaks me out because I'm like I'm not ready to carry a baby in my stomach for nine months like that's a big thing he has the easy job in that part yeah literally I'm like well I guess as well I was gonna start to compare it to lambing but that's really not the same thing no really bad comparison and I have seen how those lambs

come out honestly lambing hasn't done him any favors in making me want to become a mom because yeah I was really think this is a really random question but with farmer hands and like being in a relationship like surely they're like really dry and like gross right um i'm asking such a weird question this is something that went in my head i was like he moisturizes he's well groomed you should put like rubber gloves and put moisturizer in them put them get him to wear them to sleep that was just something that came into my head really randomly but um I know we'd already briefly talked about like Love Island and the transition between like Australia and UK um obviously because you'd done Australia before people automatically jumped on the bandwagon

that you were only doing UK because you wanted to be famous or you wanted to clout or whatever um and you were branded fake because bombshells always get to watch the show before they go in see that's so stiff though because i was in lockdown and got my phone taken off pretty much as soon as i got to um south africa so you didn't know anything about any of the people so i did get to see their promos on instagram and i did get to watch the first two episodes but it was like which is nothing basically literally and no offense i didn to watch the first two episodes but it was like which is nothing basically literally and no offense i didn't find the first two episodes that like i've really said no offense to me i wasn't in them i have such a short attention span like i can't watch movies

if i have tv on it's on in the background and i like look up glance laugh but I can't follow a storyline like the girl's got no attention span so I watched like the first two episodes but I was like while I was like cooking on this little laptop and so I just had no clue what was going on um so yeah I didn't actually know what was going on when I went in I didn't even know if Will was still going to be there so obviously like I knew the characters and whatnot or people but like I didn't know who was going to be there or what the go was and who because I know for a fact that like in there anything can change in a day yeah I don't know who was going to be coupled up the first few days are always in shambles so yeah I had no clue going in so because a lot of people asking about how you

dealt with the narrative of being branded fake it's so weird that like because obviously I couldn't see what the outside were saying um and in the villa everyone was actually really nice to my face so I just kind of was unaware that I was being branded like that until towards the end so I actually I didn't actually watch your series so like the first time I met you was the first time like I knew anything about you yeah and do you always get I mean now when you're out out of the villa do you always get a bit annoyed that people have these like preconceptions about you based on what they've seen um I feel like we were when I've just been in our little bubble so it was really easy to like not get sucked into that I did know that like after Love Island Australia like

when I did come out I found like the feedback and the negative criticism quite challenging which is one thing that kind of made me not want to go on the show um but I was like just do it like you'd kick yourself if you didn't go back on Love Island UK like you're single it's a once in a lifetime or twice in a lifetime opportunity um so when I went in I just had to really mentally prepare myself and be like yeah people are going to say things. There's going to be negative criticism. And if I go on the show, I'm putting myself in that position. So I guess that's just something I had to. What was the negative criticism like?

Was it based on like things that happened or was it based on physical appearance? Because in the UK it's quite heavily based on how you look. Yeah. So Love Island UK, Love Island Australia. I did get comments about my body because I gained weight in the villa. So that was challenging.

Everyone gains weight in the villa. I know. Because you can't exercise. Yeah. And I was just having the best time in there. So I think that was one thing that like was on my mind. And then I went through four couples in Love Island Australia. Okay.

And so like that was just like a lot because it was like almost like three breakups. One person, they're excluded. I wasn't attached to them. But it was like it was very intense, the emotional rollercoaster of the relationships. So then to come out and then see like clips and stuff of you with people that you look so happy, I was like this is so much in such a short period of time.

So that like really stressed me out with that on Love Island Australia too. So which is why I really just had to, I said to myself, if you're going to like do this, you're not going to sit around like I did with Love Island Australia and sulk for six months. Because after Love Island Australia, I put myself in a shell and I kind of like isolated myself a bit. And I just told myself like, you're not doing that again if you go on Love Island Australia I put myself in a shell and I kind of like isolated myself a bit and I just told myself like you're not doing that again if you go on Love Island UK so I was like I'm gonna come in and put my eyes in positive light hopefully find someone who sees life the same way I do and I'm I was really lucky that it all worked out and I found someone as positive will as well because

we've both been able to be so positive since we've come off I was gonna say like there's always articles floating around about people's relationships and stuff and every time I see one about you and Will it's always the most random thing like you always are always doing something really random but also my favorite thing was when you guys were being really touristy around London that was like the sweetest thing I've ever seen I was like oh guys they're so wholesome um and it's just crazy that I was able to meet someone like that like I hate to say it but I feel like the universe I'm like kind of like a manifester I like to think that if you do put your head in the right direction and in a positive light you will find other positive things and positivity will be drawn to

you and that's exactly what I did and I found Will and I just think I've never met anyone so suited to me and someone that like kind of sees life in the same way as me so and it's just crazy like we're from the other sides of the world and we'll put together in this villa yeah I mean that's a pretty big fate isn't it really 100% because if Will wasn't there I don't think I would have found a genuine connection in the villa I was gonna ask you like did you did anybody else catch your eye? But then if you just said that, then... Yeah, I don't think I would have genuinely fallen in love with them. Like, I might have been able to, you know,

get along with them for a while, but I wouldn't have been able to come out and fall in love and move into the house of their parents. Like, I was just... Even, like, with all my dating experiences, I've never found anyone like Will. So yeah. Yeah.

I was going to say like I followed Will on TikTok for a long time and that is one unique character out there. Like it's the dancing in the mud with the lambs that used to crack me up all of the time. Oh, my God. When I came out of the villa and saw those TikToks. Did it give you the ick or did you find it endearing? It was okay.

It was a bit like I was like, whoa, like you do these types those TikToks. Did it give you the ick or did you find it endearing? It was okay it was a bit like I was like whoa like you do these types of TikToks. It was just weird like not weird but I was just I didn't expect that because in the villa everyone's like oh he does TikTok he does TikTok and I was like I was kind of in the villa like I can't imagine what type of TikToks you do. Dancing TikToks. I just didn't imagine the rolling in the mud but absolutely love it that's 100% his character um so someone obviously you know you've touched on quite a lot about your anxiety and how um you know finding your fitness journeys really helped you and about how going in and out of reality tvs impacted your anxiety as well um is it something that you've, someone asked if anxiety is something

you've always had or is it something you've just experienced as you've gotten older and being able to deal with it as you get older? So potentially yes, always had it but I didn't, I wasn't actually aware that it was anxiety. I just thought it was the way I am and the way I see life. So I have ADHD so anxiety is actually a massive part of that. And I just was never educated on you anything about this. So once I realized that I actually was struggling with anxiety and what the cause behind it, that's when I was able to manage and work on it. And I've like done a lot of self development and self help, because I just thought that I didn't like life, and I was scared of everything. And, you know, I kind of went down that path of depression.

But when I actually started to see a psychologist and to work through that, they were like, you actually probably struggle with anxiety a lot more than depression. But it's the fact that you're not aware. So it's making you depressed in hindsight. So once I became aware of what was causing it, I was able to work through it. And it's not that I didn't like my life or that things were bad. It was just I would get really scared before I do things. So, yeah.

Have you been formally diagnosed with ADHD? Yeah, yeah. And what was that like? It was really scary because I didn't understand why I was the way I was. Like, never understood it and when I remember when I first got diagnosed with ADHD the first thought that went through my head was like so this isn't curable this is me forever and I think that was like a really overwhelming thought like other things you can cure but I was like oh I'm stuck I was in a point of so much pain and confusion at

that time in my life that I just wanted an answer I wanted to get help and I wanted to get out of it so when I got that diagnosis it was just like I just felt really deflated and I did I actually didn't handle being diagnosed with it very well at all I just yeah I was very dramatic about it what would you do again differently like no you know now if you were to be diagnosed as an adult I'm assuming you were diagnosed when you were a young girl yeah yeah so I wish I did more so they gave me books to read which is one thing that I never read because I was like babe I have ADHD I've never read a book in my whole entire life that's an interesting gift for someone who's been diagnosed.

Literally. But I do think I would have taken it more seriously and done it a bit more. Just looking into it and learning how to understand how and why I function is one of the best things I've ever done for myself because it's made me so alert. And whenever I feel a way, I can now tell, is this how I feel in the moment or is this how I'm always going to feel? Is this just a part of the way my brain works or is this how life is? And I'm able to really ground myself.

So even when I do have like really anxious periods, I'm kind of able to sit back and be like, okay, is this anxiety speaking or is this you speaking and then I kind of move forward through working through it there however in the past like with my ADHD I was so reactive because it's those fast like changes of emotions and I would like almost get like a little bit hot-headed and like I'd grab my head and like a bit of overstimulation and I'd shy away from it and kind of withdraw myself from situations whereas now I can really stop and be like okay you need to think is this just is this how you feel

or is this how you want to be reacting because I know it's not how I want to react and then I can kind of work forward from it. Did that have a lot of impact on like your relationships with family friends and like dating? yes 100% like I feel I've always felt very different like just even my emotional responses and I would be so confused and the people around me would be so confused even my teachers back at school would be like she's a good kid she's a nice gal but what the hell she's just like um but yeah and you know what I if I could do my like ADHD diagnosis over again I probably would have gone into therapy sooner um and counseling I felt like at the time I was almost in denial and I was like I don't you know don't want to be like this don't want to have ADHD and I just kind of

like I fell into like a rut I just want to isolate myself and I quit my job I was like oh I can't work at this job because I've got ADHD and it was very it was like really intense for me um I kind of wish I could rewind the clock and actually just speak to someone about it because I held all these emotions inside and I didn't want to tell anyone that I had ADHD because there's like stigma around ADHD. I just, there isn't, there's nothing to be embarrassed about whatsoever, but I felt that way. So I kind of wish I could go back

and be a little bit more kinder to myself. What would you tell your younger self now? If my younger self could see me now, she would be so, she wouldn't believe me, no um I honestly would give myself like the biggest hug ever and just promise myself that it's going to be okay and it's a bad day it's not a bad life and you're going to get through it and you know stay true to yourself and I probably would tell her to speak out to people um because what I did was I just kept all of this inside and I didn't understand how I felt and I was never going to understand how I felt because I would

never vocalize it and I felt like back then and I still do feel like it a bit if I speak to people about how I feel I'm a burden like I don't want to tell people I'm upset because I don't want to make them upset or worry so back then I would do that but to an extreme extent where it was almost like I was always smiling but it was because I was trying to deflect how sad I actually was and people like you're so positive you're so happy and I was like okay cool that's good that's what I want people to think but actually inside I felt awful and I was scared and I just would tell myself like don't be scared it's such a normal thing and if anything the people around you are going to respect that you're speaking out about it because it's going to help your relationships with them it's going to help you to love yourself

and yeah I think is that something you'd want to talk about more like as your career goes I'm like I don't know if you can tell I'm like I'm getting nervous talking about it now because I've never actually really spoken about this like especially like I've told Will and staff but it is scary because it makes you very vulnerable and I know that the way I dealt with things in the past like wasn't actually the best way but I have learned so much from it and I would always give if anybody was ever struggling with anything honestly if I can give everyone a big hug, I would. But the thing is like, it all does come down to being kind and so patient with yourself and just like reminding yourself that like, it's okay to not be okay. And it's okay

to be confused about how you feel. Cause I think that was the hardest thing. I was just so confused and I didn't understand why. And cause I couldn't vocalize why I was confused or what was going on in my head I would feel like I hadn't I actually didn't know how to speak out but um what would you say to somebody who's listening that feels exactly the way you felt I would tell them that you are not alone and the way you feel is it's not weird it's not bad because I felt so isolated I felt like I was the only one that felt that way and there was something wrong with me because I felt so isolated I felt like I was the only one that felt that way and there was something wrong with me because I was so confused and I had all these emotions and my reactions were different I want them to know that no like how you feel today it's not going

to be that way always and there are other people out there who may feel quite similar and I just would never want anyone to feel isolated like you're not alone that's what I would say I would say you're not alone and there is a way out and there is sunlight at the end of the tunnel even if you don't see it I promise you there is yeah are you okay by the way yeah I'm okay I don't want to like say something to you and then I don't I don't want to upset you opening up about your mental health and your emotions and how you feel is really scary especially on such a like a public platform and where there are you know you've got a over 850 000 floors now like it's a lot of people to like feel vulnerable and open up to yeah um do you feel that pressure like

the pressures of social media now that you're re-entering the real world? Yeah, I almost feel sometimes guilty because I feel like a lot of people, people especially that are in similar situations, they can pick up on other people that feel that way and are going through the things they're going through. So I do get a lot of people actually ask me questions and I'm still like I have a long way to go in terms of learning and I would never want to give bad or incorrect advice so what I try to do and like is hide away from it and almost pretend that I'm not like that like it's not that

I'm embarrassed that I have ADHD and that I've struggled with my mental health but there is still that part of me that is just a little bit confused and I have withhold like I've pulled myself back from speaking about it and I think like it's actually quite refreshing that I have kind of got this off my chest yeah because I do feel guilty that there are so many people out there that I could help feel comforted and I haven't already there's a lot to take on yeah um you shouldn't like you personally shouldn't feel like you have to take that on yeah um and i think that's it's one thing that's really scary about like this kind of industry is that sometimes when people put you on a pedestal and then you're like oh

like you don't you feel the pressure of like trying to please everybody yeah and that's a really hard thing to do because you never can especially without putting detriment to yourself and like not fulfilling what you need yeah as much and I guess it's really nice that you have will and the farm to basically retreat back to you and you need to yeah um is that why you love the countryside yeah look I just love being with I know I love social media I don't get on my Instagram stories and like talk and stuff very much because like I'm just and I feel weird talking to the camera it's a weird thing to do yeah because you're just making eye contact with yourself I don't want to sit there and make eye contact with myself um but I like to keep social media a bright happy place so with our TikToks and like our

little TikTok vlogs happiness I think social media like you can open your phone up and see something awful you can open you can wake up in the morning and you can open your phone up and see something awful you can open you can wake up in the morning and you can see something so negative something that's going to ruin your day so for me I want to bring happiness and light to social media and that makes me happy and the fact that it could be making other people happy that's where I get the fulfillment from so someone asked what if you've got any big plans whether you and will would like to do a tv show on the farm oh we've got so many questions about this um we haven't got we haven't got any big plans in the near future sorry to let you guys hit you up and get you get you as a country file show like i

always my parents used to watch like country file and all those things it would be great to have a younger version honestly if you saw like we were not two very chaotic people like we I don't know what it is I don't know how we get through day-to-day life like honestly we are just chaotic that's all I can say um it would be entertaining like it is entertaining for us on the farm just living it ourselves it would be amazing to show that to other people but a tv show is a very big commitment but she didn't say she wouldn't do it so you know maybe if itv hit you up then there could be something there um someone asked what your favorite parts are about the uk my favorite parts about do you know i need to just like travel i need to get out more i I'm always at the farm. The farm's my favorite place at the moment, being with Will.

You guys have really good food here. I think the food's like the takeout food. I turned around to everyone else and everyone's like, no. No, I'm obsessed with the food. I don't know what it is. What are you eating? I mean, takeout. I mean, takeout all the time.

Uber Eats, Just Eats. You've got so many different options. Like in Australia, I just eat Maccas all the time or McDonald's. I'm just thinking what is on Deliveroo that I'm not seeing yet? Oh my God, your Chinese. Like the Chinese food, that's good. That stuff's good.

I was just sat there thinking like no one, I've never heard anyone say that British food is good no I love it it's the takeout like I just think the takeout food is it's like fast food but your fast food's better have you had a roast dinner yet I have had a roast dinner delicious Yorkshire puddings yummy I don't know why we don't do that in Australia I don't either like it baffles me that I had it is Yorkshire that's in yeah that kind of makes sense um so somebody said that they loved you but they wanted to know if you'd ever watched bits back from either of your shows no only what I see on TikTok so

I remember once in Australia I was getting my teeth whitened and my housemate did it as a prank put Love Island Australia on and I was sitting there I was like get it off but I had a teeth whitening thing in my mouth it was like I was in a chair with teeth whitening and they put a bit of Love Island Australia on and that's all I've seen from Love Island Australia because I just can't like it's weird seeing yourself on camera it is it's weird and I don't think you'll ever get used to seeing it yeah have you watched yourself back only when I sit there and they play it when I'm like doing interviews but I've seen my own VT about 10 million times and I never want to see it again

and every time I see it I'm like literally I'm I did see a little bit on after sun when we did the after sun live they played some clips and I think they made it look funny like it wasn't as bad as I thought but um no I haven't watched it back I've lived through it I don't need to watch it yeah that's true I think it's always I think it's also bad for mental health because you know how things happened yeah it kind of makes you like replay it in your head like oh that's not how it was like nah I'm like onwards and upwards moving forward yeah definitely just there's no point in getting stressed over things you you can't control exactly um someone asked what the most challenging thing is that you found since leaving um I think like the fact that I'm in a

different country and I haven't gone home that's actually been really challenging believe it or not um I mean there's a challenge for anyone right like being away from your family yeah no but honestly everyone's been so lovely to us like oh my god the dms I get the little tiktok edits people make for us like I am so blessed I do just have like that every now and then I'll have a moment where I'm like this is so overwhelming I get really tense and I start to get a bit anxious but I'm so blessed that I've got Will by my side because he's just helped me through absolutely everything every time I will be like I want to cancel this event I want to I can't do it he sits down he's like you can do it I'll be there by your side so yeah I'm so grateful to have him oh no that's really sweet and I also watch him open all your

posts for you yeah even those I'm like I can't open it it's too much stuff in the bedroom like I start to get real stressed and he's just like it's fine I'll open it for you and he rips into them and I was watching him open in that box of fake tan and I was like that could go very wrong I know he just like gets the bag and rips it open I'm like I am so sorry for anyone watching this because some people get really frustrated when people don't open boxes right I'm one of those people so I was literally watching and I was like this is going to go so wrong and you have white bed sheets and if the bottle up splits it's going to go everywhere like I was having major anxiety watching that story for you um I always ask guests a similar final question on the podcast and it's um I always ask what would you say to people in the past or people in the future that you know maybe doubt your success or doubt your potential based on the fact you're a

woman and for you as a woman who has been diagnosed with ADHD for me nothing's getting in my way like I will keep on finding that sunshine and keep on striding and nobody how many times I get knocked back by people whether that's because I'm a female because I have ADHD I will always strive through I will find a way oh that's fair like it's really nice you have to keep telling yourself to keep going and yeah like you know find that little bit of sunshine and it's really weird for you to hear that it's British Chinese takeout and being on a farm it's literally my childhood and i would love to be anything further away from that mate i'm from country tas i'm from country tasmania bottom of the world like i grew up up a dirt road i think came from more country than will

so i'm like really easily pleased like okay so i was gonna say how is he gonna convince like when i saw you i was like oh australian beach babe going to the, how is he going to convince? When I saw you, I was like, oh, Australian beach, babe, going to the farm, that's going to be carnage. But no, that's... No, I'm like, when I got to Will's farm, I was like, oh, you have neighbours. We don't have that where I'm from. The girl is easily pleased.

No, that's really sweet. Also, thanks for doing the first podcast without Will. It must be really weird. Missed him, but it was really nice having a girls chat. Yeah and I'm really grateful and like thankful that you opened up about your ADHD like I know it's not easy and I could see that it was quite hard so I really appreciate that no thank you and thank you so much for having me sorry I'm sorry no I don't want to ask you like, oh, someone said to tell you that you're amazing. I thought that would be a nice bit after, after just trying to make you upset.

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