Girls Know Nothing - S2 Ep24: India Reynolds | Love Island & Egg Freezing

Episode Date: July 19, 2023

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welcome back to another episode of girls know. Our next guest made her debut onto our TV screens back in 2019 and has since then used her audience of over a million followers to educate people on her plant-based lifestyle as well as her egg freezing journey. So welcome to the studio, India. Yeah, so I, well, earlier I was talking to you about being vegan. I didn't know that you were vegan. Hi, I'm Richard Karn.

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to 64000 for your two free gifts with purchase. W-A-T-E-R to 64000. By texting 64000, you agree to receive recurring automated marketing messages from Pocket Hose. Message and data rates may apply. No purchase required. Terms apply. Available at pockethose.com slash terms. So, okay, I don't think I would describe myself as vegan because i feel like vegan is when you have like no leather clothing or anything like that so i'd say i'm more like plant-based okay so i don't eat um any fish or meat or dairy or eggs or anything like that and how long have you been like six years my god oh my god okay

that's see you probably get all the time every people like oh i would be plant-based but i can't give up for me it's cheese cheese i can't everyone says cheese i know to be fair i don't mind the vegan cheese like i used to like i know it sounds really horrible you know like a plastic burger cheese like slices of cheese i'm like thrilled the ones from McDonald's yep or like Philadelphia which you can get vegan so I'm actually all right can you yeah the Philadelphia vegan one now I didn't know that yeah because for me this I remember one Christmas I bought like a Wednesday vegan Wednesday Dale and I opened it and the smell was disgusting knocked me for sick and I was like no I just put it straight in the bin i think there's some things that they're trying to do vegan and maybe in like five years or something

it'll be good yeah but now it's just not quite there so how come you decided to like go down the plant-based route um i'm gonna be totally honest i i was dating a vegan guy okay and he was like oh i was like really into him and he was like oh I think you should um like why don't you watch these documentaries like try it out and I was conspiracy um yeah cowspiracy was one of them and vegicated I think was the other one which was like there were some little bits in it that were so grim about like little chicks and stuff so I basically like fancied him so I put myself off eating I mean this is not a good great like standpoint for like women's brides it's all right we've all been there we've all done something weird to like impress a guy exactly so I was like oh I'll try it and then like he obviously is long gone but the veganism stuck

well the plant-based diet stuck I actually quite enjoyed it and once I'd seen all that stuff you can't unsee it yeah like a lot of people are like if i'm talking about it to them will be like no um i don't want to see it which is absolutely fair enough because once you've seen it it's like oh no i feel bad it's like when they were talking about bringing american chicken to the uk because i've seen how they pack look after american chicken no and i would i'd have to be a vegetarian so i used to be veggie i'd have to go back to being veggie if they bought the chicken yeah also have you did you ever see that um like meme and it was like of apparently what the KFC chickens looked like yeah yeah no I can never and I've seen how they make gravy as well and I wouldn't eat that either oh no it's disgusting

but did you do you find that there's has there been benefits for you because a lot of people don't like I went vegan for a couple of weeks my personal trainer thought you'd try it out on me and it made me bloated like i just swelled up i think probably if maybe if you did it for longer it would your body would get like adjust a little bit i don't know like for me it probably made me less bloated and less tired after meals okay um but I think everyone expects you to be like oh my god there's been a huge change it's changed my life and like for some people maybe it does for me I kind of feel the same okay no that's fair enough I always I'm always really interested to know because I always I felt really tired yeah and just swollen so I was like please

just let me eat an egg yeah can I go back please just let me eat something normal also I think it's like a lot about cutting down on your intake rather than like totally cutting it out like you don't have to be that extreme but maybe just have like a little bit less because i was going to ask you do you see yourself as someone who like educates more on the plant-based lifestyle a little bit but i'm not i don't like to be pushy okay i think anyone if they want to do something they'll come and ask you questions i think if you start preaching then that they'll probably go off the idea like i know i would trolling as well pardon you probably get loads of trolling yeah exactly like loads of really angry people that just really like milk yeah or like steak but there is a lot of stigma around people that have like plant-based lifestyles

for that reason like being preaching too preachy i know that's why i'm like i want to stay out of that bracket okay because that's why i was like the only time I'll say yeah the only time I'll say something is like say I go out for dinner with a group of people and then someone starts saying stuff to me like oh why aren't you having me or why do you know what I mean picking at me then I'll be like this is why other than that none of my business you eat what you want okay that's fair I there's nothing worse than when you're trying to eat something and everyone's like yeah i know i'm like leave my food alone you haven't got to eat it but i mean we've all done things to try and impress a guy so i haven't gone quite to the extreme of like what's your worst thing you've done to impress a guy oh my god now i'm trying

to think of really weird stuff that i've done i think i've done loads of really generic things like been really into like i'm not into formula one i'm not gonna sit here and pretend that i'm into it but i've been yeah all of a sudden i'm really into it i'm not i still don't get it rugby still don't get it goes over my head absolutely no idea but i'll pretend to watch it hit men in shorts why not absolutely i did i cut a fringe once the guy was like oh you look so nice with fringe i was like oh my god yeah cut a fringe it looked absolutely horrendous i've got the roundest face i literally looked awful i tried to go blonde once because i thought it'd be good idea no no we're too dark bad idea um but there is i picked up quite a few things on your instagram that i wanted to talk to you about as well um and one of the ones that I saw was about you talking about your mum's breast cancer

diagnosis um and I know that you it's a subject that it makes a lot of people very emotional and it's very hard to talk about so um I know that it's going to be like that with you but do you think that maybe like your plant-based lifestyle has also come as about like you trying to be more healthy and more aware of your own body um that happened like quite a lot I went plant-based a long time before my mom's diagnosis I have seen quite a lot of things um in terms of people going plant-based when they find out they're they've got cancer and there is I don't know enough about it really to comment on it but um yeah she was diagnosed it would have been last I think it's last summer now so it's been like over a year um but she basically her mum had breast cancer very young and died from it

so she was going for routine mammograms I think it's every like two years maybe or something and she went for one and she was really lucky because the woman who did it was um like an expert in doing them and she almost i don't have you ever had a mammogram no so i don't i haven't either but what from what i'm told they basically like squash your boot between two pieces of glass which sounds quite horrific but i think it's quite quick um but she basically put the machine like really far back into like her chest and when they took the picture they could see they could see a lump um but they didn't have anything to compare it to because the other scans hadn't gone that far back okay so she had to go for uh i think like a biopsy

and then they were like yeah i'm really sorry it is cancer i mean luckily it was stage one it was a very small lump it was caught super early so had she not have been having those mammograms like you couldn't feel it okay so if you are someone who is offered a mammogram like I would definitely say go for it because because it was caught so early they were able to remove it and you know remove everything and then follow up with radiotherapy so she didn't actually have to go through chemo either which was so good because that can be like horrendous like taxing on your body yeah exactly um so yeah we were really really lucky but it is just like such a shock i think as soon as you're in the doctor's i went with her to the hospital

as soon as you're in the doctor's room and they say like i'm really sorry it's cancer you just instantly you're like oh my god you think worst case you think the worst like it's awful um but yeah she i mean that's the only thing we can do i think with any type of cancer like just be vigilant like check your boobs all the time like i always say to my friends check your boobs like i found a lump actually not long before she got diagnosed and went and had a biopsy and it was fine it was just like a cyst or whatever but um just make sure you're checking and also like check them i think the easiest way to check them i find is if you're in the shower with shower gel because then you're like slippery so if there's something there to feel you can really like feel the lump yeah and there's loads of things online on like

how to check them i think it's really nice that there's loads of like demonstrations and ways that you can yeah check as well but you know what was well my mum had a diagnosis not of breast cancer of bowel cancer a few years ago and like my reaction to hearing the word cancer i was only 14 i just walked out and i didn't come home for the whole day oh my god so what was what was it like when you had your mum's diagnosis um well I was obviously I was like upset like we had a little cry at first but I was quite like obviously shocked but also wanted to be positive like for her yeah um and didn't want her to be I think as well because her mum had died from it it was such a like that was her instant thought like this is what's going to happen now like you almost don't hear them saying oh it's stage one or it's really small or you know hopefully we'll be able to remove it um so yeah that was the

instant thought but yeah it's just so stressful it's awful isn't it I mean you know it's so scary but yeah I think just support and I would have to say that NHS were amazing like they were so fast she was booked in for a surgery within like a couple of weeks like in out operation was done like really well her scar was like not too bad I guess with your your nan's diagnosis as well I'm guessing like you it's something you kind of prepare for because you know it might be a possibility yeah but you can't prepare until it happens when you yeah when you go for the appointment or when you know probably the same for you when they're being like tested you you are preparing yourself for the worst but like in the back of your mind i think you always have like oh like it will be fine like we'll go and

they'll just be like oh no sorry like it's nothing i think you're always so when they actually say it you're like oh my god that's not what I was expecting. Now, how are we dealing with this? How's your mom now, by the way? She's fine now. She was fine a long time ago. Yeah. Bless her. But I think it's always a thing as well that, you know,

once you have had it once, there's always a scare about re-emissions. Yeah. And something coming back. Yeah. I think with breast cancer, it is a lot more easier to spot. It's external. So you can literally remove it and then that's that.

Have you started having mammograms now? No, I i haven't i don't know what age you're offered them i don't i think maybe is it 35 i think so so maybe yeah not yet um but as soon as they do the same with smear test like just go and get it done i know it's not the favorite thing to do with monday morning but it's two seconds it's over get it done and then you can know you're safe do you did you ever think that it's it's really weird because having a mum that has had a cancer diagnosis you learn like a really weird lesson from it like I don't think I had a very good relationship with my mum yeah until I thought there was a chance of losing her and then you worked on it more yeah so then for me it was like a really weird lesson in a way yeah it's almost like a warning isn't it like rather than if anything

like bad was to happen it's almost like right okay no one's permanent no one's here forever I think that happens more as you get older like when you're young you just think that everyone's going to be here forever yeah and your parents are invincible yeah exactly so I think yeah it definitely teaches you to kind of cherish everyone around you really not just like the person who's had the diagnosis of course they're more in that moment but like you know anyone around you your grandparents or whoever it is like no one's going to be here forever I definitely make the most and I think it's like you said it's really important to just make sure when you get letters to go for those regular screenings whether it's a smear or a mammogram like just to take it and to go yeah and you know it's done in five minutes it's done in five minutes like it's literally

and it could save your life and even if you find like a cyst because I found a lump once like you did and it was it ended up being a cyst yeah then you at least you know what to end up looking for exactly and also the fear that you will be you know what to end up looking for exactly and also the fear that you will be you could be going through thinking oh my god i've got this lump what's going on what is it all the rest of it it actually if you go and get it checked they might just put your mind at rest and be like this is it you're fine like move on and then you're not worrying about it that's another thing like stress and stuff like that is not good it's been proven hasn't it is not good for our bodies and you're more likely to get ill if you've got those things going on exactly um do you think that

your mum's diagnosis was part of the one of the main reasons i wanted to talk to you is about your egg freezing journey do you think there's a like a correlation between your mum's diagnosis and you wanting to do it or do you think it's a completely separate decision um no I would say completely separate like I was in a relationship for a few years and I thought like that would be the person I'd be having kids with in like the next sort of couple of years um and then we split up and I was like okay I'm like 31 and I've not got any kids I know I want children 100 but I'm not with someone I don't want to rush into something, have kids with someone who like,

then it falls apart or like they're just not the right person. Do you know what I mean? So I didn't want to like bring children. I know no one plans to do it in that environment, but do you know what I mean? Like I want it to be like a solid relationship. So I just thought rather than stressing

about my age and fertility and that kind of thing, I think like it's you can have your fertility or like a little bit checked and see kind of what what's going on and what they think like how old maybe you would be able to have children up to um but again it's not like 100% but I just thought if I get to 40 and then I'm like oh I'm ready to have kids now it's not guaranteed at that age and I don't want to regret not doing this now when i could have and had like the eggs in the freezer and not guaranteed either but it's like a backup it's like an insurance policy and hopefully like i won't have to use them and even if you know maybe

i didn't need to use them but like if one of my sisters or one of my friends you know i mean couldn't get pregnant then i can like donate them to them or it's also a possibility that even if you can't carry because of your age yeah like a surrogate can yeah use your eggs at the same time exactly so yeah that's what kind of pushed me into it and when I went the doctor was actually like it's really good that you've come now because your eggs are fine now like okay they're not as good as when you're 18 or 20 but they're fine no one's thinking about that 18 or 20 no exactly we're just like oh by the time I'm 25 I'm gonna be married and I'm gonna be having two kids that's what I thought I'd be like at 25 I was like yeah 26 no it's a bit old I think I'll start earlier no I'm like 32 like absolutely not yet you really change you really change your mind um but yeah I was like right let me do this and she said she gets people coming

that are like 45 and older and they're like okay I want a baby she's like I'm not a miracle I'm a doctor I'm not a miracle worker yeah like obviously now there's amazing things they can do you know you can have donor eggs you can like adopt there's loads of different options for you but that doesn't mean that your egg supply is still going to be there like i think people kind of need to bear that in mind and it's so hard for women because i feel like the way uh men and women are and the way we're different like women have come on so much in the work environment like we're you know we want to be equal and do this that and the other but our biological clocks haven't caught up to that yeah so it's the only thing in some ways which we're we're never going to be the same as men in that aspect like

they can have children later so it's kind of less of a ticking time bomb for them so i just think like at least be proactive about it and it's actually like it is expensive but it's not as expensive as i think some people would expect it to be like like for a round i think it was around three thousand three and a half i thought it was way more yeah so and you have to pay like rent so they're in the freezer you have to pay rent on the freezer so i'm paying 300 pounds a year for my for my eggs to be frozen i'm like what if they're power cut then what are we gonna do i love the frosted i love the un power cut my first thing was what if your direct debit bounces

like what happens do they chuck them out yeah do they do they stay there do they leave i don't know they keep them for 10 years now i'm going to think about it that's another three grand yeah it's a lot more expensive than you thought but do you know like i i i'm one of those people that i'm never sure if i want kids or not right okay because at the like when I was younger I was like yeah I definitely want them and now I'm like really don't like children yeah and I think it might change again it might not there's no guarantee but then I didn't I never thought about my fertility and egg freezing until I saw people like you talking about it yeah more publicly do you think it's a good thing that there are people that are now willing to talk about it yeah absolutely like I feel like I maybe didn't talk about it enough like I probably I think while

I was doing it it's a little like I don't want to put people off at all but I did like three months no drinking no anything fun not like no um smart I don't smoke but like do you know what I mean no nicotine no like loads of fizzy drinks no awful food like I was like pretty healthy um I went to see a nutritionist before I started and that kind of stuck to a bit of a diet plan and did all of that because apparently your eggs go in like three month cycles so if you do that for three months before you should get like healthy eggs um so yeah I was like quite strict with it so by the time i got to the egg freezing actual thing where i started injecting i was dying for a glass of wine and i was like and then you're

injecting yourself with all these hormones and i was like oh my god i'm going insane like i'm absolutely mental at this point because i think that terrifies me the idea of having to inject yourself with hormones oh the that was the least bad part of it oh okay like the actual injecting the first day i did it i was like oh no this is gonna be so fine walk in the park okay absolutely sounds weird yeah but fine like wouldn't you wouldn't care would do it and then by the end of it it's like three a day which was fine like that i love that you make this sound so easy and in my head i'm like well i don't think everyone finds i just didn't mind and when some of them you have to make up the only thing i was scared of i'm like i don't think i'm qualified so i'm like mixing these

like take sucking the water out of one thing like getting the powder from another like squirting it in and making this injection i was like guys am i allowed to do this like tapping the bubbles out i was like what if i get an air bubble in me this isn't good I don't think I'm ready for this kind of level of adulting I can barely feed myself so I don't really know like if I can do something like that I know and the same time every day that's a big commitment that is but you know like I can't even commit to taking the pill so yeah no maybe maybe like wait a little bit yeah I don't think I'm ready for that level it's only two weeks though of injecting okay that's less like yeah it's not too bad but you get really like I don't know if this is too much information there's no such thing I don't think on this

podcast your ovaries go from like they're normally like two centimeters each okay and they grow to like 10 centimeters each so you feel like you're like must feel like you're pregnant like it's like heavy okay and you're so bloated like you look i looked pregnant and then that's when they extract yeah and then they extract that's painful uh you're asleep i was asleep oh okay stunning i hate general anesthetic yeah it makes me really ill afterwards but like really yeah like uncontrolled like projectile vomiting wow but then like i guess if they know that's gonna happen they'll do something about it yeah yeah yeah it's like because i've seen like people like vicky patterson start posting pictures of them going through the process and it does

look terrifying yeah it's maybe to me because i have no understanding of it whatsoever it's just intense so when you're doing when you're injecting you have to go for a scan every other day so it's like an internal scan every other day which is like not thrilled do you know what i mean um and then they check and you can like see them all the scans and they're like growing and growing and growing and then when you go for the extraction you have a scan on that day and then you go into theater they put you to sleep and then you wake up the only thing i was quite surprised like you don't have any incisions or anything because it's literally like a needle okay so you're not cut or in pain in that way but they're like if you can feel like your stomach's been i think i think they have to like

maybe push on your stomach so they can reach them. So like, you just feel like uncomfortable. Okay. That's the best way I can describe it. The things that women have to do. Like, no, you're actually not to me. Not to me.

It's other people that are like genuinely wanting to do it. I want to do it again. I'm literally, I've literally. You want to do it again. I've got to do it again. I didn't get that many. So I've got to go again. How many is many?

So I got nine, but only four of them were good. And they wouldn't have like 12 to kind of ensure a live birth i know so you could have to have to do it if you said got the same results three times yeah and it's three grand a pop every time yeah i know think of all the handbags yeah well yeah but i mean if you really want children then you're gonna have to give up the chanel anyway i'm like if i get to 40 and then they're like no you should have done this earlier I'll be so upset you would and I think that's the thing and I think that's probably why I'm now even like thinking about it because yeah

if it wasn't for people talking about it I would never yeah I've thought about it at all this is the thing and then it's just they're there they're not they they're in the freezer it's an insurance policy it's actually like say you were married or you were with someone and you knew you wanted to have kids but much later so it's actually much safer to freeze embryos because if you just do eggs it's only one cell okay so they're quite delicate so the freezing and thawing can like damage them whereas if it's an embryo they've already watched it develop they kind of know which ones are good um and they're much stronger so if you knew it was a particular person which i mean i've got not got a clue then you could do it with them it's really

weird that you say that because knowing me that if i had a baby that was a frozen embryo i would just be like i used to keep you in a freezer i think that's when you say that 300 pound a year before you arrive in the freezer it's even more you used to be a lot quieter when you're in the freezer you're so much easier also when i do more i'm like wait when i do more am i on the same rent like have i got a shelf now and they'll just put them all there or like just rent in full space or have i got individual rooms yeah exactly this is you can this is how you can tell that i'm not ready for children but this is what is my thought process and not like the actual really serious repercussions or like

medical thought of having to go through something like this i'm just thinking about whether your direct debit bounces or not i know no i like i would just say to everyone though like if you have got that money and you think you'd be really sad if at like 45 you were told you couldn't have kids i'm like just do it just do it for an insurance do you think there's stigma around women freezing their eggs and potentially having children later so like i was thinking this so while i was doing it i like didn't like date anyone or like really i was like oh god if i went on a date with a guy and they're like oh how are you like oh i'm not drinking i'm freezing my eggs i was like I feel like I sound like 75 years old do you know what I mean like I don't feel like guys would

understand that either so they'd think you're a little bit crazy yeah and I was like do I seem like really psycho like oh I'm obsessed with having a baby like if anything is the opposite I'm like doing it so that I don't have to have one yet but does it sound a bit crazy I don't maybe it's just the wrong kind of person you're on a date with if they think you sound crazy maybe that's just not the one I mean that's probably who I'm on a date with to be honest knowing my taste my god because I was just always always wondering like there is always a stigma around like women wanting to have kids early women wanting to have kids later especially in like the workplace and stuff like that there's always like those conversations that you're never going to be as good as your job

at your job if you're off having kids and stuff yeah this is true if you're having the time off but the thing is you can't like you can't progress as much if you're having like if you have like two years or three years off as someone that stayed there the whole time like it's it's pretty impossible yeah no I get what you mean i was just thinking like about i can't ask something like that no ask i want to know what it is well i i they keep them for 10 years but like is that is it 10 years because that when they're frozen it's like gone off like that's the sell-by i reckon maybe i don't know i haven't asked like it's really weird as well because you have to sign

a form saying like oh I think it's like if you die like what should we do with them and I was like whoa I don't really know this has got really deep like I thought it was gonna be like a dark conversation about like wanting children and stuff and now all of a sudden you have to think about every aspect of your life that's why I found it so intense like every time you go to an appointment I'm like oh and there's always obviously loads of couples that are like going through fertility treatment like I just found being in that environment very very intense do they make you go through like therapy sessions and stuff like that when you do something I think it's available but I didn't do it which is probably

why I found it so difficult so if you were to do it again would you have taken those sessions no because i think now i know what's going to happen so i'll be all right but um also i like recorded loads of it was in january like i know it was in march which is like grim the weather's grim like i'm always sad when the weather's horrible yeah um so i was like recording all these videos because i wanted to make a youtube about it and like talk about the whole process but i watch them back now and i'm just so sad and i'm crying in every single video I'm like I can't put this anywhere you are injecting yourself so embarrassing I know but yeah I haven't yet shared I haven't got the haven't found the balls to share it I think you should because I think the one thing is is that people love stuff like that because they like to see the real side of what they're doing I know but

it's just so scary because I feel like I'm being so overly honest and I'm like oh that is just making me all so awful about being single why I haven't met someone yet and I'm having to do this I'm like I can't fucking publicize this do you feel awful for being single no not really I'm having a fantastic time because I've been trying to get India on this podcast for months and every time I speak to her she is not in the country so I'm like do you actually feel awful about being single right now in summer I'm having the best time but like when you've done no drinking for three months January to March and you're injecting yourself with hormones like it's a different story enough cuffing season is really hitting you yeah you're literally like sat in the rain like oh I'm cuddling

the dog at home basically if you really want to have your eggs frozen you should always like take India's advice and all of this because it sounds so much fun but um I don't even know how you kind of approach that conversation with a partner though what like if you're with someone and you're like I want to freeze my eggs but not with you or even if you've like when you meet someone how do you tell them that you've frozen your eggs oh i think that's fine i've just been like are you fine with that yeah i've got some eggs in the freezer oh i'm very awkward about telling people certain things so i wouldn't even know how to like approach that conversation i don't like yeah i would literally just tell them

well not only if it came up in conversation like if they were like oh do you want kids okay like or something like that then i would say oh yeah i've actually like frozen some eggs not wanting to scare you or anything but there is some eggs i've already named all of them yeah ready which one would you like one two three or four goes all the way up to 12 just in case you're wondering hopefully how many do you want kids yeah um i mean how many eggs do you want as well like i mean eggs like 50 i'd like 50 like no i was gonna say i was like no it's like when i do my next round if i got like 15 i'd be so happy some people get so many one of my friends just did it she's like 40 she got like 20 eggs i know i didn't even know we had that many in us I know you're born

with all your eggs did you know that I did know that yeah but I didn't I obviously there would be 20 in there but yeah so how many kids do you I would like four I'm one of four so I'd like four okay move on I'm 32 like I don't know when I'm popping these kids out to be fair my nan had kids at 45 did she how many did she have she had twins she was told she couldn't have kids and then at 45 she was pregnant with twins that's amazing you might have twins then were they identical or non-identical yeah they're identical oh and no one else in my family's had twins yet so did you know it's the generation yeah so knowing my luck it will be me that's lovely i'd love twins so fun i was 10 and a half pounds oh jesus christ absolutely not

that's impossible to carry my mom's five foot as well so no it's fine that i think the size of the baby is determined by like the dad's side like what they were when they were a baby okay so i won't date any really like dates are like what did you weigh when you were born and if they say they were really heavy you're just like now sorry it's gonna work not for me thank you see you later do you always think that like you went privately for your egg freezing i don't actually know if it's something that's offered on the nhs um i don't think it is now unless you're going to undergo um chemo or maybe even radiotherapy but i'm not 100 sure on that but yeah if you're going to have something that could affect your eggs then they do offer to

freeze them but i don't think for like just general people they offer that because it's quite it's quite hard when you talk about it because I'm sure there's probably, you've probably got followers that want to do the same process, but affordability is not there. Yeah, like obviously I'm really lucky that I'm able to. I think you do get one round of IVF now in the NHS,

but don't quote me on that. So I don't know if it's something maybe they would do in the future. Like now they have the science, i heard somewhere the other day to if there's a small child that's going to have chemotherapy they can actually remove an ovary and then grow it externally for however long and then put it back when they've undergone all their cancer treatment i'm learning so much for you like you can tell on my face i'm like what i didn't even know any of this stuff was a thing sorry but it's so light-hearted telling you a science lesson i'm actually really appreciative because i have no idea about anything like i just know that

women's bodies are so complex yeah so intense that you just you can't physically know everything about no but also so clever that is true I think yeah I think the one thing I was always really scared of that's why I wanted to ask you personally about the egg freezing stuff whether it was going to hurt or not no I made me feel a lot better about it I would say uncomfortable afterwards and uncomfortable when you're like quite always swollen but it's not painful what would your advice be to me if I said to you that i was going to go and get it done so i would say just be really kind to yourself while you're going through it and be aware that your body's going to change a little bit and it will obviously go back but just know that that's

going to happen and afterwards the worst part for me was doing the injections you feel a little bit hormonal but it was afterwards and then when you get your first period afterwards it's like whoa i felt like i've been hit by a train so just be prepared for that it's just the emotional thing and like have your friends around you like talk to them talk about how you're feeling because also most of it's like probably totally normal or talk to other people that have done it like if someone messaged me now and was like right i'm doing this i will message me whenever because some days you probably are going to feel like shit yeah because i don't know anybody person that's done it yeah and like my parents don't really deal with that stuff so I just don't feel like there's I know anyone personally

that I can speak to about it that's had it done I think that's one the lack of support that I feel like I would have is something that does put me off about just going for it and doing it yeah I would definitely speak to and like speak to me like i would be open to speak to anyone that's having it done and wants like a device or whatever i mean i don't have the best person to ask i mean i've learned so much so you're the best person to ask for me but yeah it is um it's fine you've just got to like focus get through it and it's like a short time in your life isn't it and probably not drinking for a couple of months or whatever it's good for i, I did that for the marathon. So nothing can be as painful as that.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, babe, I think I'd rather do the eggs than the marathon. I do the eggs three times before I run a marathon. Jesus. Yeah, if I can get through that, I feel like I can get through anything. Whatever else frees me.

How was the marathon? Terrible. So painful. I don't want to, I signed up to do next year. So it can't be that bad. No, what? Oh my God, it's like childbirth. You forget and so it can't be that bad oh my god it's like childbirth you forget and do it again yeah that must be that must be what it is yeah mental that

you're going to do it again literally 26 miles i think i'd rather run 26 miles and birth a child right now really yeah oh no i think i'd rather give birth running 26 miles i couldn't even run i was 10 and a half pounds no true c-section all day yeah it would have to be a sunroof job and not through the actual normal way i don't know how my mom did it because they only got bigger from that my brother was heavier than me so oh my god huge praying for his future wife yeah yeah he's got big head as well all right sorry i know sorry um what what would you say to people that have any doubts about your decisions over freezing your eggs what do you mean doubt it's like they think it's a bad idea or like yeah people that think that you know it's just because there's loads

of people out there that think like stuff like this is like unnatural and not right yeah um i just think like everyone should mind their own business like I honestly think any one thing that anyone's doing is just their choice like things like this is not like affecting anyone else I know some people are really against like the science they think everything should happen naturally that's fine that's their beliefs but that's their business do you know what I mean I don't think they should be opinionated on anyone else's decisions yeah um i normally finish the podcast on um a similar question okay so what would you say to people that doubt your future successes based on the fact that you're a woman oh my god you could have warned me i probably could have told you when i was going through when i was texting you being

like what do you want to talk about i probably should have dropped that one in there wait can you say the question again um what would you say to people that doubt your future successes based on the fact that you're a woman oh my god that's so hard like you need to let me prepare yeah i should have said this earlier i'm so sorry what have other people said i don't have a clue do you know what i think it was maybe i should say to you like what would how do i reword it for you what would you say to people that have basically how do i now i'm trying now i'm stuck about how to reword it i guess for me like i would always want to like if anyone's like doubting then you just want to prove them wrong so use that as your i don't know if i'm answering the question correctly here but use that almost it's not a wrong answer there's no wrong answer like you use that as your motivation to like push harder for what you want to go for

what you want and i think now there is a change and like for me i'd love to see more like women supporting women i think that sometimes is missed not with like us a lot but you know some people so I think like support other women I'm not really making sense am I no you are you are to be fair I'm just thinking of things in my head that I shouldn't say out loud so like that's why I'm trying that's why my face has gone a bit blank yeah like use other people's doubt as a motivation that's what I would say no I think that's a really good way to end the podcast. And I'm sorry that I just dropped that question on you. I wish I'd listened to other people's answers.

I knew which track to go down. I think I wanted to ask you something about like people that wanted to doubt your decision for wanting to have kids like later on in life. But oh yeah, I did get a bit of that. They were like, oh, it's just selfish that you want to like do whatever you want, live your life the the way you want and then later you're just going to rely on science and i was like do not i think it's really selfish not doing things you want to and then

projecting that onto your children when you've had them exactly exactly so well done there's a thought yeah well well keep going on holidays i'm jealous i'm living vicariously through you at this current moment in time see you in mykonos yeah I won't ask you any more horrible questions in Mykonos great