Girls Know Nothing - S2 Ep27: Jules Robinson | Mafs, Figur & Finding True Love

Episode Date: August 9, 2023

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with a 10-year warranty. What could be better than that? I'll tell you what, an exciting exclusive offer just for you. For a limited time, you can get a free pocket pivot and their 10-pattern sprayer with the purchase of any size copperhead hose. Just text water to 64,000. That's water to 64,000 for your two free gifts with purchase. W-A-T-E-R to 64,000. By texting 64,000, you agree to receive recurring automated marketing messages from Pocket Hose. Message and data rates may apply. No purchase required. Terms apply. Available at pockethose.com slash terms. Often in their clothes. Jules is currently working to launch her brand in the UK and look for her very first 10 British ambassadors so welcome to the studio Jules. Well I was saying to you how much of a fan I am of Married at First Sight

Australia so obviously I have to ask you about your experience and what it was like for you but going on something like Married at First Sight is like a huge risk because you're putting everything on show into one person so what was the reason for you applying to the show? Honestly, it just felt like a really extreme date. I always joke that it like being the face of Bumble was like my first ambassador role because I was just Bumble date after Bumble date. And I was like, what have I got to lose?

It just felt like a really extreme date for me. So, and I just thought if I don't like him, I'll just leave. Like it wasn't, I mean, of course it was a big deal, but I just thought if i don't like him i'll just leave like it wasn't it was i mean of course it was a big deal yeah but i just thought if i don't like him i'll just leave like i didn't think past my wedding day i just wanted to get through that bit and see if i was with someone that i liked because i saw um in an interview you guys did literally post the show that you when you first met each other they weren't initially the person that you would like pick out no god no i did not he did not order me and i didn't order him at all like i i don't think

that we probably would have met in in real life if it wasn't for the show but like you guys were seen as the like most compatible compatible couple on paper yeah i mean i guess emotionally and okay iq and eq but not as in physically what we would usually go for. I mean, I had made such a big song and dance about that. I wanted a tall man. Like I, in my head, it was like, I'm curvy and I like, you know, just that caveman, big hands around me and to feel protected, like just very stereotype what a woman thinks that

they need, you know, or want to feel feminine. So when I came down the aisle and his best man is literally like seven foot tall i mean i i was like oh my god he's a dwarf he looks so short in comparison and they had like a this chandeliers everywhere and there's a beautiful rug on the floor and i'm convinced they like dug a hole put the rug back in and put popped him in it as much as even though they were saying you know we were highly matched you know ever in the series you know in the history of maths i do think they wanted me a little bit to be superficial and get down the end and be like nah he's not what i want you know

because yeah i think that's a thing that a lot of people go wrong in that experiment is they've just got their blinkers on this is what i want want. And I, my, my thoughts were, well, I've clearly everything I've done has been wrong this up to this time in my life. So let's just be open to it. And for me, it was when I heard him talk and he basically mirrored what I said, but in a male version, I was like, this feels good. This felt really nice. And I just knew that he was kind. I was like, I'm safe. You're not crazy. This is good. Do you think that's what people do wrong in terms of dating in general? Like blinkers are on and they're too narrow-minded I think so I mean definitely on that you see it every time they get married and they're like not sorry like you know he's got a piercing or he's got this or just little dumb things that does that does that make someone a

bad person just because they've got a piercing in their eyebrow I mean everyone has their specific taste I get that but you're in an experiment so be open to what it's going to entail so that was my mindset and it did it felt really good even even my mum was like did you see what I saw like this this was great it's weird that other people because I always feel like um with my first like people can see stuff that you can't because you're in such a like weird contained space right did you ever feel like that with your family and friends? Yeah, I think for me, it was not physically, it was more emotionally like what he had to say for himself.

And that's why I was like, he seems like a really good guy. Looked at his friends. I was like, they look good. I think you can tell a lot by someone's friends. And it ended up being like there was six degrees of separation. Some of his friends were friends of mine. And I was I was like okay and I think it kind of turned into a real wedding and and then on the show our music didn't work for our wedding dance it did and then it blew and I was like this is like a multi-million dollar production like the music does not just

bust so I think they were like this is this is this is too much of a normal wedding let's let's mess this up a little bit for them oh that's the thing like that's the bits with men reality tv and trying to keep your mental health intact because you just never know when some random thing's gonna come into play oh babe i was in there for three months like that's a long time that on the show it kind of looks like it's six weeks or something three months in a little toxic bubble that becomes your world i mean you'll know what it's you know what it's like being on reality and you know in real world little things like that don't bother you. You're like, well, just do you, do you. But when you're being interviewed all the time, what do you think about them?

What do you feel about them? What do you think about their relationship? And I'm such an empath that you end up thinking about it and feeling about it. And really, you're like, I don't care. I'm here for me. But you're there to make a show, right? So you've got to have an opinion. And eventually, like I broke.

I just was, I crumbled. I was in tears. I was ugly crying. I was like like I need to get out of here I feel like I'm being bullied at school like it just felt so toxic and as much as I was falling in love and having this amazing adventure it was a really hard thing to to stay in that that toxicity of just nastiness and bitchiness and backstabbing and because your your series was also part of like COVID wasn't it so that probably made it even worse and heightened everyone else's and because your your series was also part of like covid wasn't it so that probably made it even worse and heightened everyone else's emotions because not only you're in this bubble but like no everything else going on it was aired here through in the uk so god i've been married

forever we got married 2018 oh wow okay yeah yeah coming up to five years now and then it aired 2019 and obviously it aired here through COVID so okay which has been a lovely thing like when I've you know ran into like people in the street and I said you know they've just said beautiful things which has always been amazing off the back of my mouth that women beeline me and say like you've made me believe that I can meet my guy and I can hold out for that person and I'm like that makes me really happy but in England a lot of people have said that it was like this beacon of light of hope you know watching like true love happen on television and thinking okay let's get out of COVID and we're going

to find that for myself. I think that's really sweet. And that's a really lovely thing when people say that. I'm going to say maybe that was my main motivation for trying to do reality TV, but it didn't work out for me the same way it worked out for you. But what is like your biggest advice to people to get in order to get a relationship to work? I think we're saying just be open be open to it like you know when you have your apps and you're like there's my postcode it can't be beyond

there like just be open to to falling in love I think um as for me personally I was like everything I've done has been wrong up to this point so I'm just gonna roll with it and yeah married twice now with a baby so it all worked out I mean yeah if you the thing is with marriage you can always try again yeah absolutely um but because you guys met on a reality tv show like obviously with people's careers it changes slightly afterwards do you ever feel like you have to come as a package consistently because you met on the reality show not at all like one thing I will say in a marriage and a relationship that I've learned with Cam is like giving each other the space to still be individuals. Yes, we're a team. We're life partners.

You know, we come together in certain ways, but we always give each other the space to do what we want to do and go do our own things. So I don't like I was asked the other day in an interview, like being the golden couple. I'm like, what does that even mean? Like the golden couple? Like we're like any other couple. You know, like we huggy, we fight, you know, it's, um, it, we have, we have, do have a great relationship, but by no means do we like do everything together or we do, we do a lot of things apart, but we definitely lift each other up and support each other in any way possible.

I think that's, um, that's really nice. And you guys are now moving to, are you guys moving to the UK or just trying to like build a base here for a career? Yeah, well, so I lived here for 14 years. England feels like home. Like I know London better than I know Sydney, to be honest. I was here for my formative years and I had a wonderful time from 21 to 35. And so coming back here for three months

is to launch Vigor. England's just been open arms for me and for us and I'm forever grateful and I've always said that like London to me what I came here is an ambitious 21 year old it's just city of light city of opportunity if you you know work really hard you can achieve a lot of things in a city like London and I um I absolutely love the UK so yeah we're here for three months And this will be a regular thing like coming back So were you guys going to come as like a whole family Or would it just be like individually for you?

I don't know yeah Like with my son being two Like he's a great age to be doing this We plan on having some more children hopefully So yeah I mean at this age right now They're great to pick them up and travel and you know he started his first day at daycare today in the uk oh bless him i know when you said you were interested in not having more children and one thing that a lot of women are more openly trying

to talk about is their fertility and you know how challenging it can be because i feel like when you talk to healthcare professionals, especially if they're male, like women's fertility isn't taken seriously, especially when you have sometimes complications or issues. And I saw that you've been very open about potentially going through an IVF. Is it just because you want to have more children

that's your main motivation for that or is it? Yeah, I'm very much a believer of like, if there's a will, there's a way. And I was 38 when I fell pregnant. Sorry, end of 37 when I fell – no, 38 when I fell pregnant with Ollie. I think I can't even add up that now. But I was – just before I went on the show, I went and did all the tests and I was like I was 35. And I was like I never really wanted to have children. And it was just something came over me that I was like, I'm ready to love something

more than myself. I'm ready to be a mom. And I, my mom to this day always thought I'd be the one child that didn't have children because I was just always very career driven. So I went and had all the tests done and very much put on this graph that I was down here. So you just, as a woman at that age, you just end up being instilled with fear that it's going to come with a fight and i think that then creates a bit of you know i don't know it's like when you can't have something you want it more right yeah and i always i've always said that there should

be like a national campaign in most countries that should be for young women when you're like 25 26 go freeze your eggs yes there's not 100 guarantee but go tick off all the boxes in life do not let that one thing hold you back or end up with the wrong person just because you want to have a child like I just think it's really important to it's just locking it in for the future so for me personally when I married Cam it was actually a bit awkward like we got married again and I said look when we go on honeymoon I'd love to actually start trying to make a child and he was a bit like oh I don't know because he's younger than me okay and you know so weird like you spend your whole life trying not to get pregnant and then you're like okay let's do this it's quite weird the first time you're like okay we're doing this we're trying to have a baby

and it took a little bit and a few hard conversations with him and I was like you gotta understand I'm not I don't have age I don't have it on my side like and I we need to start trying now because this may come with a fight I hope not so it took a little bit and a few little hard conversations and he wasn't like yeah let's do this he was like oh I don't know are we ready and so anyway got my way as we do no I'm joking um and yeah within two months I fell pregnant and I did share that on my Instagram and I had a tear and I just said, you know, I know that manifestation is not for everyone and I know things come with science. But for me, I told myself for a year, I was like, next January,

next January, that's going to be – and it happened, you know. Like for me, I'm a very big believer in mood boards and manifest, you know, all that kind of stuff. And that works for me. But now being a little bit older older I'm wise enough to go you know what as much as I you know 40s and you 30 my ovaries aren't and I'm 41 now so we're going to keep going for a couple more months and if it doesn't happen then we'll cross that path of what we need to do so I'm really positive about it and then if that doesn't happen we'll get to the next

stage so so you don't have any regrets about having waiting later in life to have children because there's always that stigma about women being older mums or like waiting a little bit longer and behaving like a man is what I've seen floating around the internet I I love being an older mum I I do admit that when I was younger like say like my early 30s and a lot of my friends were married having babies and you always think the grass is green I'm like yeah but you gotta mow that grass right like everyone looks my early 30s and a lot of my friends were married having babies and you always think the grass is green I'm like yeah but you're gonna mow that grass right like everyone looks at everyone's life and kind of goes like oh I wish but I did have moments of those feelings of like maybe it's not gonna happen for me like that's just being honest there was that little voice in my head that was like maybe it's not gonna happen maybe I'm not gonna meet that person

and this is also another thing that put me onto mass because I was like well what have I got to lose right so I love that I look back now and I've like ticked all my boxes and I have no regrets on that. And I actually really, I love being an older mum. Talking about ticking boxes, you are a founder of your own company now, Shapewear, called Figure. How, I saw when I was looking at it, it was that you came up with the idea during

your time married at first sight yeah um so what inspired you to want to work in shapewear I know I you know this was not a planned thing whatsoever I've been in the hair and beauty industry for 25 years and I still am like I have a salon in Sydney still still have that but the shapewear thing was through filming. I always liked my microphone pack to be down my shapewear because when it was on my bra, I just felt like a bit of a hunchback because of the curve of my body.

So I put the microphone pack just in the back there in the shapewear, wore shapewear for three months, all different brands, all different styles. And it ended up rolling down, rolling up, so uncomfortable. But the main thing was at the dinner parties at Mavs, I'd take off my beautiful dress and I'd be on the floor. My sheet would be on the floor and I'd be holding the microphone back in my hand like going to the toilet.

I'm like, well, this sucks. This is not fun. This is not seamless. And then coming off the show, so it wasn't until probably after two months that it had finished airing, I just had such a great, beautiful response from women, like thousands of women just reaching out to say, I really felt represented by you on television. And, you know, it's so good seeing a curvy woman on TV.

I love the way that you dress. I wish I had your confidence. I've got a body like yours. Why don't I dress like you? And it was just really clear that so many women did not feel enough because of the shape or the size of their body and lacking in confidence and then on the other side I got so much trolling and body shaming for being a natural curvy confident woman so I put it all together and I was like honestly it was just a light bulb moment I just like I'm gonna make the most kick-ass pair of shapewear that's my confidence thing that's my superpower that makes me feel great and also I wanted to you know a bit of a stick

up to the trolls yeah and that's where the messaging of figure became of like just work what you got feel confident no matter what age shape or size you are so and I wanted to then make in using the public as my models because if women saw themselves in me I want everyone to see themselves in everyone and feel represented so that's where it came along with me going well I'm just going to use I'm going to use the public so and it was just an amazing the response of all the thousands of women that applied and wanted to share their story of their journey to worthy or their body image and using such a you know a selection of women who are so different from each other from their personal stories just so ultimately women see themselves in reflection and just feel feel feel equal because

that's I think it's really important as a woman to feel equal and feel seen and heard so that's where figure began so I went on a little trains planes automobiles to Asia because I as like a little children's drawing during my sketches like in my head I knew what I wanted to do I was like I've worn shape pretty much my whole life and I was like I knew how to make a great pair and I kept on sending off my my drawings and then I'd get these samples back in the post and I'd be like what the hell is that so I went to Asia on a tour and that was the way I sourced my product wanted to ethically find it design it with a team and the crutch you know now you can wear figure and go to the tour like that's you know revolutionary which is it literally is wild that when you said it's revolutionary it sounds like so normal oh it's fun it's won loads of awards figure which

has been amazing for that aspect and when I left there um like I've still got the original pair that I that I came back with and I put them on. I was like, I've made a great product here. So that felt really good. And I think going there sped up my process of, I reckon, 12 months of literally going there for a week. And yeah, I had to throw money at it and make it happen, but it turned everything around a lot quicker to make that process. I think like one thing that I always think about with shapewear is there are

so many different brands on the market, but I don't always think they promote any form of body positivity because they are put on Photoshopped models or made very small with fabric, like very small fabric. And the one thing I loved about seeing about figures when I said to you earlier about how

I've got a longer body than I do legs. And anytime you wear any form of shapewear, it's like too short for your body. And then it like everything has to come out at the top because that's where it all goes you know I've never actually shared this how I came up with the idea of the petite which is your torso and the tall was because when I bought the product back I was like mom you gotta try it on and my mom's really short and she put it on and it was so long on her torso and that's when I was like I've got to make one that's shorter because not everyone's got the same shape so that's where that came and I wasn't

going to do that and I was like thanks mum she didn't realize how much she was helping me so that's been a great thing with figures so because everyone's body is different and for me where the body positivity angle comes to it is because it's actually all you under that piece of material like it truly is and I think that true body confidence comes from from accepting yourself knowing like what your so-called flaws may be and just being okay with that and I think that you know it is a piece of material but for some women it really does unlock that confidence and makes them feel fabulous like for me I I pretty it's my underwear like i know you said you don't really wear i don't do bras what has the trolling really been like when it comes to releasing figure because i've seen articles you know with especially with

women when they're on reality tv when women's weight fluctuates it becomes a headline and then if you're also um owning a shapewear brand that's just going to add fuel to the fire with people on the internet yeah oh I don't I mean I don't read comments I've learned I learned that the hard way very quickly like when people reach out to me and want advice that you know it's going through situations or hard times and they've come off the back of shows I'm like just don't read comments you know if it's not there you don't see it it doesn't matter like and that's really it because people that write those things you know they're obviously not happy Like that's the bottom line is that they're unhappy people, which is sad for them. So, but it's, I learned very quickly that even when my television ad came out for maths,

it was a beautiful advert. And then, you know, rookie errors, reading comments and things like that. Before I even spoke, before I even shared an insight to who I was as a person, I was trolled and body shamed. Oh, her hair or her ass or her, you know, just nasty. And I was like, whoa, like I, it was such a confronting thing to see hundreds of comments about yourself. Um, just really negative, just purely about the way that you look. Um, and I've been really honest and open about my body and weight. Like after I had my son, I put on 20 kilos, working mom, you know, working from home, working so hard through COVID and launching figure and keeping that going

through such a hard time as all people did in business. And I eventually was the weight that I was when I gave birth. And I was like, okay, I've now got this baby. And I'm still the weight that I was when I, you know, 20 kilos. And I was just really open that I wanted to get back to my pre-pregnancy clothes. I wanted to do that. And there's's nothing there's nothing wrong with saying I want to lose a little bit of weight I want to go on a health journey I want to have another child again I want to feel strong to hold that baby again that's my choice it's my body to my choice to make that for

my body so you know and then with that then you get I go back to that weight again and then you have comments going used to come to celebrity you've lost too much weight I'm not even back to the weight I was when I first met my husband and I was still body shamed so you just got to go as long as you feel good and you're comfortable with your choices and you have an integrity with what you do then who cares it really doesn't matter as long as you're as I said as long as you feel good about yourself and that's kind of been my biggest lesson through that it doesn't matter it really doesn't matter and I've been a size 10 to a size 18 in the public eye and always no matter what size I still get body shamed so it doesn't it really doesn't matter for me put my figure on and feel fabulous to be fair as long as you like when you feel comfortable in

who you are in yourself nothing can really break or shake you because you know who you are. Absolutely. It's so you glow different from the inside when you're happy with who you are. No, definitely. And I think you're, so you're launching figure in the UK this month and you do have Australian ambassadors

and you were talking about how you are on the hunt for British ambassadors as well. I've had some amazing applications right through the UK. So yeah, I'm looking for 10 ambassadors for figure. So this campaign is hashtag figure movement. So it's just spreading that figure movement through the UK. And it really is for diversity. Age inclusion, I think is really important at the moment. Like just, you know, we're still sexy at 50. We're still sexy at 60. Like keep that going. We, these women need to be seen and heard as well so I really

want age at the forefront age inclusion and obviously size and diversity and appearance as well so and I just I always love to choose a couple of women who aren't confident and you just know how much this is going to mean to them and just to see them come out of their shell and be part of that campaign it's really for me it's a really humbling fun thing to do with these women how do you think that kind of works in terms of like marketing and advertisement like picking at real women as opposed to just using any model that you can get from any agency well i think it's like people connect to it because these women are sharing themselves and they're being vulnerable and they're being honest and that is the most attractive thing about people

i think when they just be themselves and you know it's some women it takes a process throughout that campaign to ever in Australia I do it over four days and you see the women come out of their shell and they get more comfortable even from the first welcoming dinner we share why we're here and that gets women comfortable talking and then eventually they get more raw and get more honest and that's how I share it through social media or through the website and that's the connection that women make with each other you know I mean from some heartbreaking stories like one of my ambassadors she um had had several stillborns and multiple miscarriages and still doesn't you know hold it hold a child in her arms but bears the body of a woman that's had several children so she loved

shapewear you know for me like it gives me goosebumps even now when i talk about it um that was the story that i was like that's awareness you know that's awareness for people to go people go through that like i'm so ignorant that i was like oh my god wow you know like that's so heartbreaking and you just sometimes have little things like that to just feel i guess fortunate for the body that you're in and realize that you've made a child and be grateful for that not focused on the the lumps and bumps that happen afterwards do you know what i mean so they're the kind of things that i like to show different stories from different women and also it's empowering for them to share that makes me

quite emotional when i talk about it because i really believe in that messaging of women just you know there's so many layers to figure. And I always explain this because I put so much of myself into the brand that I really believe that when you're a woman that when you've got no hate or jealousy in your heart, you don't project that onto anyone else. And it's a positive door, you know, roundabout of positivity. And I think when you put that out, you get that back. So, and that's what I mean about, you know, put your figure put your figure on feel confident love yourself don't throw hate in anyone and just

feel good so um yeah it's really I've never I've not ever I've always ended up with a great group of women together and it's a process to pick those women as well how have you found the kind of building the brand in the UK versus building the brand in Australia? Like, has there been much difference at all? Oh, do you know what, to be honest, it's just learning the business side for me here. Like all the VAT and the import and the tax, that's the hard bit. But like building it, no, not at all. Like it's been, as I said, the England's just been so welcoming and lovely.

And I've just had such a great response online from women just going well this is this is great we need this here we need this this movement so which is exciting to be fair I feel like I need to get myself some now sometimes when I go to like like when I need to put an evening dress on when you go to an event for work and stuff sometimes you're sat there and it's like not comfortable the outfit doesn't sit right and you just yeah well I mean it's very much it's a lot of people do box shapewear with like the curvy girl you know yeah accessory or the staple it's to do with fashion as well like we i sell size six to size eight size ten like a lot of those sizes because certain materials like look at certain bridesmaids dresses they're like

silky and i don't care if you're size zero like those material they'll find lumps and bumps in your body. And it's about fashion and accentuating. Like I met Miranda Kerr a couple of months ago. She wears shapewear. She loves shapewear. So yeah, like, and it's just because it just helps with that shape of the dress. And you just feel like you stand taller.

Like it holds you up a little bit as well. So as I said, it's a fashion staple as well. It's not just about like smoothing and, you know, trying to make yourself look skinnier. Like for me, I wear it because it accentuates my shape and i love to show off my natural my natural body shape so if anybody in the uk that was listening wanted to become an ambassador how do they go about doing that so you just go to figure uh well figure.com hopefully by next week or figure.com.au and it is I'm just in the ambassador section and you just apply there and answer a few questions upload a little video so what advice would you give to

anyone that wanted to apply just be yourself I always say incredible things happen when you just yourself like that's that's my motto how I live my life I guess that's what you had to do when you applied for married at first sight and sprung that whole side of your career? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. So I normally ask every single guest a very similar final question. And I would like to know, what would you say to people or even your trolls that doubt the ability to be successful based on the fact that you are an older mom or a curvier woman? I mean, people always talk about this village, like it takes a village to raise a child. I'm like, take me to that village, please, because it does not exist. No, it does. But I definitely

think being a working mother, you definitely need support around you to help because it is, you know, it's a struggle. You know, I explain it that you've got juggling so many balls and you've got to pick which one's the glass and which one's a plastic and which ones you can drop and obviously my son is definitely the glass so that is a real balance that you have to have and support around you but I say to anyone that you know I just think you've got to honestly like believing in yourself and manifesting what you want and just go for it like absolutely go for it I think any advice to anyone wanting to start a business start something up is just always ask people for help like we're in such a world now of such easy contact and sliding to someone's dm like what's the worst that can happen someone just says no

like I think good people want to help good people so just ask yeah and I think people that have been successful in something you want to they'll never judge you for trying to start absolutely and the people that do judge you are the people that are scared of your been successful in something you want to, they'll never judge you for trying to start. Absolutely. And the people that do judge you are the people that are scared of your ability to do what you want to do. Yeah. But thank you so much for coming on the podcast and sharing. And I can't wait to see your British campaign for figure. Yeah, it's going to be fab.

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