Girls Know Nothing - S2 Ep34: Molly Marsh | Love Island Drama, Private Conversations & Becoming Role Models

Episode Date: October 4, 2023

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Was it Vagiso? Well, the FemFresh. FemFresh, yeah. That was a recent ad thrown on Love Island. Oh. Welcome back to another episode of Girls Know Nothing. Introducing our upcoming guest

who is renowned for her delightful TikToks and her rollercoaster ride in season 10 of ITV's hit dating show, Love Island. Molly Marsh is on the path to becoming a TV presenter, yet her journey began as a content creator with a substantial following. Today, she's leveraging her platform to make a positive impact on the upcoming generation. So welcome to the studio, Molly. We probably are sick of talking about Love Island, but i feel like i have to ask you anyway because we all know that's what everybody wants to hear and if i get that done out of the way now then you can relax and not focus on it so um i i kind

of dipped in and out of your series i knew who you were straight away because you had that shocking dumping and then you got put back in so you were like the whole drama of the series um but i did hear a lot of speculation that you were put in there for the drama based off your acting career previously and like is that true i heard about this when i come out um and i was like what there's so many things my mom's an itv producer there was all sorts and i was like i don't know where this has been pulled from um but then i found out that people were saying i was a plant because of you know i did some work for itv before like i went to the villas before this was all for like um promo on youtube and tiktok and i thought i'm gonna do you know what i'm gonna go for this

is fun why not who wouldn't yeah and then little did i know year after i'd be i'd be actually doing the show but that's where it come from definitely oh so you don't have anyone that's family members that are no absolutely not do you know what when people like i think people that don't know much about television don't realize that's a lot of pressure to put on yourself to be a plant yeah because you literally change your entire life like even if it is for dramatic and like we're saying like a plant yeah because you literally change your entire life like even if it is for dramatic and like we were saying like a plant right is to make drama i am the least person who would want to make drama if anything i stay out of it so i was like yeah yeah that's not me oh so what swayed your decision to go back in then like did you know you were going to go back in or was it just a

random spur of the moment thing it was just got a phone call and they were like would you go back would you go back like what would you do if you went back i was like well i want zach back oh that's what i want so they were like right okay would you go tomorrow i was like yes get me back in there it happened that quickly yeah i was home for three days in london um and then got a phone call and they were like would you go tomorrow i was like yes please let's go but at this point I'd obviously been watching the show since coming out um I was angry I was sad I was upset I was excited there's so many emotions I was like please let's just go back do you think it helped or hindered you that you were able to see everyone's comments before going back in uh I think it probably hindered me you know because I went back

in knowing what people have been saying knowing what zach's been getting up to and obviously you know you're seeing an hour of their 24 hours but it still was oh my goodness i wish i kind of never saw this yeah because it's like it's everything's taken for dramatic effect isn't it and then like even with my series when i left and i watched certain episodes back my i knew have had i known that piece of information my reaction and decisions would have been completely different yeah i agree so did it but you still wanted to go back in for that i mean you were with him now so obviously yeah literally i knew i knew the plan i knew i wanted to do i knew what what could come of it it was just how and then given the opportunity to go back and actually have that chance it was like yeah let's do it i know that everyone i mean we spoke about how it hindered you that you were

able to read everyone's comments and stuff offline online and we know that being in an environment like the villa is super intense and i did see actually that zach spoke about how he found it really difficult because his routine was completely wiped out but for you how did you cope like what was your coping strategies like do you know what at home i spend a lot of time on my own yeah and the one thing for me was just always being like you're always talking to people you're always surrounded with people you never really get alone time so when it had come to like lunch or any time you can just take a minute i would just take myself off have me in the pool go have a nap but just like lie down but sometimes i'd go on the day

beds i'd just sing to myself i thought i felt so sorry for the gallery and the mic but i would just lie there and sing um so mine was just like getting my alone time of just my own headspace and not thinking about anything to do with love island of what i'm doing right now just proper in my own little world and that really helped me well i people forget that you are literally surrounded by the same people 24 7 and you can't even go to another room if someone's annoyed you because there are no other rooms even if you are like you you go off somewhere you're still chatting to producers or you're still always talking about the show yeah you never switch off it is literally it consumes your entire life and that's why it's super intense but um do you think that obviously everyone knows that love island has

lasting impact on your life but is there anything that you would actually take from your actual experience you think will have a lasting impact on you yeah do you know what opening up more i feel like the first few days in the villa i was like completely like in my own head didn't even speak to producers about how i felt nothing i was just like in my own head i'll be fine i'll be fine i'll be fine and it got to a point where everyone was like you need to speak to us more you need to speak about this tell us how you feel about this and i feel like in there i learned to definitely open up and talk to people i'm very independent in the sense i'll sort it out myself don't need help I'm fine um but yeah I think I'll definitely take that from the villa it's just

talking to people the producers are very good at getting you to trust them yeah and like building that really good friendship so I think I remember for me they would like start talking to you about your bikini and then all of a sudden you're telling them how what you think about every single person in there yeah yeah and then you go back in and you're like I can't believe I've just said that but that's how they make the show right so I think it's it's really good to have those takeaways I think actually did the opposite to me yeah like I don't want to tell people anything anymore yeah because then it ends up like me doing become more private yeah well I think so which you kind of it's kind of hard to do and that was why I found difficult as well is I am a very private person at home like I just keep things to myself if it's my business

I won't share it just because it creates problems and I feel like in there it's such a place where you have to talk it's not a place to be private loads of people are watching it I didn't really think about that think it through properly um so I definitely learned to talk more and not be so private well I mean you say you're a private person but you were a content creator before and you did have a substantial amount of followers before even going into the villa yeah so how did you even manage to have that as a private life and that as a job um I don't know really I feel like I just I share the things that I would want to see from someone else yeah so like I watch a lot of YouTube.

I love being on TikTok and, you know, following other social media creators. So I feel like I just post things that I want to see. Yeah. Okay. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Because I was going to ask you how you like cover making engaging content, but then also trying to stick to what's authentically you when there is so much out

there yeah because obviously there's things that make you happy what you want to post and what you enjoy like i love vlogging i love youtube because i can just chat to a camera and it's just so natural but it's like people don't really care about that like before i went into the villa i had i think 6 000 subscribers on youtube and i'd post every sunday for about three years and i was just saying loved it and at the end of the day i'm not getting paid from this like you'd get the odd whatever here and everywhere but it's not gonna pay the bills so it's like just doing whatever i wanted to do and i'm still doing that now i said i didn't want to kind of change anything from before or after villa like i'm just gonna carry on doing

the exact same things because i love it and i know what my audience likes as well from before because they're all really young girls and before i went into love island and now it's just obviously a bigger wider platform which i'm so grateful for you're gonna hate me for bringing it up i did see that viral ad bring it up which one was there multiple which one the vagisil one was it fresh fresh fresh that was a recent ad for it on love island oh it always do you know what it always gets you because there was about one person in my series that did one about manscaping and that ad came back to haunt them so you know you won't be the only one but when i saw it i was on tiktok and i think that was the first thing that i saw from like you yeah and i was

like wow this is fair enough but you gotta pay the bills but um you know there are so many people that now want to break into that industry and like you said having 6 000 subscribers on youtube doesn't necessarily pay the bills so what would be your biggest piece of advice people that want to move into the social media space um oh that's a good question i don't i feel like just stick to doing your own thing i feel like so many people that kind of want to do the same thing yeah and jump on the bandwagon of what you're kind of meant to do as an influencer and what you should be doing and like i just don't think that's a vibe i feel like just do your own thing do what you want to do um don't really worry about what people think and probably getting into it it's just well i got into it by just starting

as a hobby at high school doing musically before it was tiktok so i feel like i remember that app oh my goodness i loved it um so i feel like people are wanting to get into it now. Start off wherever you want to start off. If that's making chatty TikToks and that's it. Or if it's making YouTube videos because... Hi, I'm Richard Karn. And you may have seen me on TV talking about the world's number one expandable garden hose. Well, the brand new Pocket Hose Copperhead

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and support our show by saying you heard about indeed on this podcast terms and conditions apply hiring indeed is all you need if it makes you happy it's gonna then resonate to the audience isn't it i think everyone that i know or i've spoken to that literally does it for a living started off because they just wanted to do it for fun they're never going with the intention of this is what's going to be my main source of income yeah it's always just been like this is what I love to do and then it actually shows in your content yeah definitely um we I mean to be a female content creator is so much harder than to be a male content creator I think because there is especially if you've come off a show like Love

Island because there is so much pressure on you to look a certain way but not to encourage certain behaviors how do you navigate that like how do you like because you've been doing it for a lot longer than anyone from your series assuming yeah i wanted to make sure that i just stayed very true to myself i think before i went into love island had so many young i'd say like 13 year old girls that followed me on tiktok youtube and instagram. And if I'd meet people in public, that's when I'd kind of be like, right, okay. So I've got a really young audience here.

I've got a younger sister, she's 15. And all I care about is being the right role model to them. So I'd always just post fun and engaging things with my sister because people loved it. It was just entertaining. And then more about like confidence. So when I was growing up,

I loved watching Zoella and that's because she was just so open and honest and such a nice down-to-earth person but then I'd also be scrolling when I was younger and see so many edited photos and that's when I'd start going oh oh my god I need to look like this and it was just not good so I feel like growing up I've tried to be the role model to my sister in the sense that I've always shown her that this is okay and this is okay and if your skin looks like this today that's also okay and just making sure my sister understands then was like right okay if you're gonna build an audience now Molly and you're getting people viewing your stuff they're gonna also want to see the same thing and you can also influence them just as much as your little sister so how do you carry that on

how do you deal with like negative comments though because i feel like even as a woman sometimes when you think you're doing the right thing there'll always be one person that says you're not yeah and you always focus on the negatives rather than the positives right yeah as soon as i come out the first time when i got dumped i went straight onto my phone because i was excited oh you just you want your phone back and you look through everything i did look through everything and the negativity did get to me i was like right and then as soon as i found out i was going back in i said well next time you come out you're not looking that deep into anything you're not going to do that so i didn't i haven't done it since i've come out and you probably went about the time right no but zach zach zach checks up on me all the time he's like how you doing like

how are you feeling because i'm like right like what's happened time he's like how you doing like how are you feeling because i'm like right like what's happened and he's like does this quite a few negative things on this comment this comment or this post i'm like okay cool i'm like as long as he knows what's going on if there's something really really bad he can let me know yeah as long as he knows what's going on i'm kind of just blind to it i'd rather that be a thing because the moment i see something i'm going to be ignorant yeah I'd rather not know yeah yeah I can imagine like it's one of those things I think that you just can never do you can't do right from wrong like yeah there will always be somebody that's frustrated with what

you're doing yeah and I always say this to girls that come up to me like I want to do this like how do I start and I'm like you have to just not care what other people think and do what you want to do otherwise you're going to get suckered in and trying to make people happy when it's impossible to make everyone happy all the time and I'm I'm definitely someone that does some just things for myself and like if I don't want to do it I'm not going to do it um and not do things just to please people and I feel like I've had quite a lot of praise on that as well since coming out I think people have kind of noticed little things um so I've really appreciated that and like I say Zach Zach's got my back he really has so he's always like checking up on me and I'm glad he sees it though because he'll understand what's going on

but I don't have a clue well you've shared that experience right so they can when you share that experience with somebody they understand what you're going through more than yeah anyone else do you think it's helped your sister to know like to see you as a content creator and knowing what it's what is is real isn't real yeah I think definitely definitely I think the more um the more like influence in social media is getting bigger as well it's like the more relatable people are coming out and then the more people are coming out of following the trends and there's just more what's it called when they're just being like thrown out it's just coming more of a i have no idea what's it called conveyor belt yeah yeah it's just becoming more like that

and i feel like when i see something that i like um i'll save it and i'm like right i'm gonna do that so like side by side body pictures in the gym i love them or like what i ate in the morning versus what i ate on sunday or something i love things like that where it's just like i feel better now i've seen that i'll save it i'm like i'm gonna post that because i like it i saw something actually and it was like people that actually get up at 5 a.m every morning don't have to post about it because that's just how they live their life yeah so when you see someone that's like always on instagram be like i get up at five o'clock every morning chance that they probably don't yeah yeah that's so true

and there's so many people actually doing it and they don't post on social media yeah who why would you want to be okay with getting up at 5am that's what i want to know like um but you did originally come from a background from acting is that right yeah um you what where did you train mad college in nottingham i say that like i know the difference between all of them well basically when i left school i was 15 16 when you leave school um and i was like i want to go to drama school that's what i want to do i want to be in the west end like that's all i had my mind set on and then I didn't want to move out to London at 15 16 so the closest place that did a musical theatre course and the same tuition and the same training um was in Nottingham so I went there for three years absolutely loved it mum um has always been in

like the tv industry so she's always been into it my sister has she's in the voiceover industry um and she does musicals herself as well so it's kind of running in the family i was like i'm gonna go drama school because that's what i want to do went there absolutely loved it and then um social media came about and it was like well when money's involved it's a business thing yeah it's like social media is so current right now why not take off with it so it kind of got put on the back burner for a little bit nottingham still quite a far like distance from where you're from isn't it yeah about over an hour drive i reckon okay i was thinking it was maybe longer than that but still at 16 to move away from home still a big deal yeah it was definitely matured me pretty

quick though do you think like there's a general rule that people that go to performing arts schools or like trained to be danced whatever do mature really quickly because of how intense the environment is yeah yeah definitely you feel like you learn so much discipline and like um you learn so much about yourself from drama school like the whole turning up on time okay well you're not in the show if you're not on time and all those little things that build you to be that type of person with that confidence yeah it definitely all comes from the training i mean i didn't really plan to ask you about this but i always imagine it to be a really catty environment like because everyone's it's so competitive like some people want to do it but there's very few like a show will have as meant the set amount of people how do you cope with that as a challenge yeah i struggled at drama school it was you when

you get your casting type you are this type of person i always bet the girl next door always that type of role um so you just kind of get used to it it's like when you're in you know in the industry this is like you're going to be your casting type and all of that um but it's like it's very competitive and you live with people and it's non-stop so do you know what it kind of built me ready for love island yeah because you have a casting type in love island yeah yeah absolutely absolutely is social media the reason why you kind of haven't carried on pursuing like a career in the west end or is that something you want to go back to well i graduated into covid times from drama school so there were no auditions to go to yeah so it was like right well i'll work from home and i'll carry on social media so that's

what i did my following started building up um i think around 700k at this point on tiktok and i was like okay i could earn money from this now and i was 700k is insane it was then a full-time job and i was like wow but i was like oh i miss the theater so i was like right panto at christmas do a bit of both so then i got back into pantomimes at christmas and did social media through the year and that balance was really nice yeah and then obviously Love Island came about the thing is with Pantos it's not actually at Christmas you probably started like in the summertime right yeah you do like a month yeah a few months before it's not very long when you do a Panto contract which I also liked because you can do obviously you can do a bit of both are we going to see you in Panto again at Christmas

I want to I want to yeah I would love to come see that yeah yeah I'm going to see you in Panto again at Christmas? I want to. I want to. Yeah. I would love to come see that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to get back into it. I know that you have mentioned that you want to use your platform for something really, really good. And because of your performing arts background, you want to help young people pursue performing arts careers.

You know, like what, how do you plan on doing that? Because it's quite a big task yeah I feel like when I was younger I went to dance class every day after school and it was one of those things where it was like all I did was school dance go home and I had like a family at dance like so many friends it was just it was just so good to have that place to go to and again your discipline your confidence everything's building um whilst you're there and my sister went to like a saturday school and she's she well she goes dancing as well but then also a saturday drama school my mum used to run a drama school and i feel like seeing the kids in there getting them off the streets yeah and

doing things like that and having something for them to look forward to and shows and stuff like that is just amazing. And I went to visit Chicken Shed and they are a company that, you know, get children off the streets. They are doing shows and all sorts. And that's something that I want to get into to really encourage that, especially to my followers,

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alliance today yeah because i was going to ask you about your visit with chicken chair because i actually didn't know anything about it till i saw your visit so what was that like like what did you do it was amazing we literally had a tour me and Zach went had a tour around their facilities and just had a chat about you know what we could do potentially in future like I'd love to go and join in one of their shows and just support them um and just get involved with what they do so yeah do you think the arts are taken seriously by people no no no not as much as they should like Zach even had an eye opener to everything when he was walking around he was like wow like he thinks all of his stuff like a sport

you know basketball get everyone on the streets and stuff like that um but it's like performing arts as well saturday school or even if you're training through the week or dance after school like there's so much to it because i do think sports is underfunded generally for young people but when you compare the arts to sport like they get nothing in comparison I don't really know why that is like it has the same impact on people and your confidence and your well-being and like you said discipline if you don't show up on time for a game or show up on time for rehearsals it learns your life skills yeah definitely why do you think it's really important that somebody like yourself who's come off a big show or has a big platform to actually do something good with it i feel like there's such a stereotype to people coming off love island as you probably know yourself and it's just like

i don't want to do that like i didn't even expect to go on the show and when it come about like i just said i've always said everything will happen for a reason and everything to do with love island before i went on happened for a reason i was like i've got to do it I've got to go with this because there's something good that's going to come of this because I can tell I can feel it so I went with it and then now I'm just like I don't want to change anything and I don't want to become this stereotypical Love Islander I don't want to do that so I'm just kind of sticking to that and yeah just doing my thing really I think it's really it's really irritating when people think of people that have done Love Island as

like really stupid because I actually think that they might not not everyone is conventionally bright on paper but that's just how society works and I think it's really irritates me when you just assume that we're all really stupid because everyone has like a purpose right like you said this is what you want to do and I felt like when I went on it my purpose was to do what I do yeah and I think it's it's irritating because every single person I know has a thing they want to do like a purpose and then it just gets pushed to the side because everybody wants to talk about the mistakes that we make as people yeah yeah yeah um i i love asking people that have freshly come out of the villa like what your big ambitions are like if you could say if like your manager can ring you

tomorrow and be like yeah this i've got this for you and it's your dream deal or your dream job what would it be yeah it would definitely be a children's television presenter whether that's cbc cbb's milkshake you know when you use the bedtime stories oh my god i remember milkshake absolutely love that so yeah some sort of television presenter i want to kind of keep my theatery dancey background within that yeah so like strictly those dancing on ice those like theatrically shows yeah where i could also you know host present chat something that i can do that do you think it'd be really hard to go into children's presenting after in love island

i personally think so but i'd hope not um Because before I was like, you know, I was thinking about these things because I know what I've always wanted to do. And that is children's TV. So when, before Love Island, I was thinking about, you know, is this going to kind of hinder my chances of ever doing that? And I'm just thinking, well, we'll just see what happens. I hope not.

Is that what, do you think that was one of the reasons why you behaved the way you did? Oh yeah, I'm very, I'm a very PG person as it is. I feel like, I mean, I don't drink, don't go'm very i'm a very pg person as it is yeah i feel like i mean i don't drink don't go out i'm not i'm not very out there person i'm not very wild to be fair everyone i know that doesn't drink is still just as fun so yeah absolutely absolutely um so it was one of the things where i knew i'd be okay you know i'm not gonna do anything silly i'm not gonna misbehave um so yeah it shouldn't shouldn't really i like that one thing i really like about you is that you actually stuck to your boundaries

because i feel like when you're in there sometimes it's really easy to be persuaded maybe not by like the hierarchy of the show but like people in the villa oh yeah it's really easy to be persuaded when someone says something to you and you're trying to revoke reaction out of you yeah to like not stick to your boundaries oh yeah it was difficult but i definitely definitely stuck to it um i always find that when you leave the villa everyone's always there's always mad rush to just grab everything and make these really big drastic life changes yeah but you've stayed in like you stayed where you originally came from yeah yeah and then everyone knows that the industry's so london-centric so like how will you manage if you get a presenting

job for example how are you going to manage your content creation with your younger sister and then yeah the london-centric i mean do you know there's so much up north i feel like in doncaster you have an hour drive to manchester or an hour and a half train to london so i feel like in doncaster you have an hour drive to manchester or an hour and a half train to london so i feel like we're in such a place where it's easily commutable like even when people would ask about me and zach how's it gonna work it's so easy to get an hour and a half train and see zach because he's london based isn't he yeah so at the minute i'm just crashing here there and everywhere but i'm still at home in doncaster because obviously i create my content with maisie at home um but she's gonna be moving to london soon when she goes to drama school oh wow so she's also

gonna go to drama school yeah she'll be going to drama school too so it's like we're just waiting to see what happens but if i if i did ever get um a presenting role i mean there's obviously it's all kind of in manchester and obviously the stuff in lond London as well um it's also easily commutable it's like I'm just manifesting I'm gonna call it now when she moves your move when Maisie moves I move yeah that's what I think mom and dad would cry at least you're in the same place roughly um but no I think I've tried to get my brother to try and explore the big city but he's not into it so he's a country boy at heart so i'm a little bit jealous you've got a sister that wants to do that stuff um i always ask my guests the same final question and i want to know if you could offer a piece of advice to your younger self based on your life and career journey

so far what would it be take every opportunity i feel like if you just take everything as it comes not think about things too much everything's gonna be good because i feel like there's times where i would have gone ah i'm not too sure but just go with it i feel like everything happens for a reason so it's coming to your life for a reason so just go with it like second opportunities are going back into the show there we go yeah I know I think that's amazing and you know when you make the decision at the time it's the decision you wanted to make yeah so just go with it and see what happens definitely oh well I'm really excited to see what you get up to and thank you so much for coming thank you