Girls Know Nothing - S2 Ep35: Ami Charlize | Family, PLT Deal & Dealing With School

Episode Date: October 13, 2023

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Starting point is 00:02:09 being like just checking I've still got my kidneys. Welcome back to another episode of Girls Know Nothing. Today's guest is actually the youngest guest we've ever had in our studio and she started her social media career at the age of just nine years old being an influencer while in full-time education if anyone remembers how hard it was being a teenager growing up you have to remember that this guest amy did that while all in the public eye i actually learned a mind-blowing amount while researching this episode so i'm really excited to welcome amy to the studio i actually when i was researching your episode i was going to the studio I actually when I was researching your episode I was going to cherish and I actually learned so much so many things I didn't know were
Starting point is 00:02:49 even a thing okay um you started your social media journey at nine yeah I was the baby of everything that blows my mind at nine I think my phone had the capability to play snake and that's it yeah no I always just like used to beg my sisters like please one more hour and I'd use theirs and then I ended up obviously get my own when I was a bit older but they used to take all the pictures and manage my account and they still do really so how did you decide that you wanted to do because I'm so young to decide to do anything I didn't really just I just done it for fun like I didn't even now I'm like yeah okay it's a job but like it still doesn't feel like a job to me but when I first begun it was because my sister was doing
Starting point is 00:03:28 blogging okay and she used to get me involved with hers and be like River Island has sent me this you get the like matching version for a kid and then we can like match oh that's so sweet of her and then I was like oh this is so cool and I remember once she got like sent to London to do some like Nickelodeon thing and she come back with like a headband and i was like oh my god i want to do this when i'm older i want nickelodeon to give to me so then from that day it kind of all kicked off from there and i was like do you know what i really think this is like something i'd love to and also at that age i feel like everyone was doing like slime videos like that was my era i feel like you i'm trying to get my sister's age so you probably wouldn't have like been in that era i didn't do this YouTube wasn't really around when my sister's
Starting point is 00:04:08 younger it's only when my middle who's 22 now when she started kind of like growing up 16 17 that's when YouTube really was like kicking off I think the only people that did social media when I was younger was like KSI yeah and he was doinga videos back in the day yeah like he was he was cool but i was always more like the slime the kids like there was this girl called ruby who i used to like religiously watch because she'd go in claire's at like 3am it was it's so random but like them kind of videos was like my childhood so then when i started doing it myself i was just like this is so weird but like i've always filmed videos in my bedroom my sister would get a camera and i'd be like can i use it and go film a video and then i
Starting point is 00:04:47 go on my laptop get up iMovie edit them for myself that's really intense for someone really young to do because i don't even have to use iMovie and i'm almost 28 iMovies no that's the basic there's more harder ones now but i have to try and learn and it's so confusing i'm like georgia my sister's like you gotta do this and that and i'm like you just come home and do it when you're home so you mentioned that your family kind of run your social media yeah what is the what was the decision behind i just think i was so young like there's some things you just shouldn't really see at a young age and i feel like they always wanted to protect me because obviously it was something i loved doing and when i got to like the age of 12 that's when it really took off
Starting point is 00:05:22 in lockdown and i was like growing massively from it but I just feel like they didn't want me to see things that necessarily like isn't right for me and stuff like that so they had complete control like they delete messages if they was horrible so for me like I didn't really know I was getting hate because they delete them all so I won't be able to see it but which I personally think really helped me because I feel like if I'd seen that I probably wouldn't want to kept going but it's like but I guess when I was a teenager and I had social media if my parents said we're gonna run your socials for you so you don't see certain things I feel like my privacy had been invaded to be honest I always had like private accounts so they was like my friends so like they if I was public on account they'd have to take over which I was just like yeah sure but I'd still have like
Starting point is 00:06:03 my snapchat was just for me my instagram I had a private instagram growing up which is like where i post school uniform and things like that like with my friends i didn't want people to see so they always let me have that privacy like they wouldn't take it away but i kind of just said like if i want to do social media this young on a public account with random people following me i've got to kind of give it to them do you know i mean i guess it's really good in a way as well because when you're young you kind of just you over them. Do you know what I mean? I guess it's really good in a way as well, because when you're young, you kind of just, you overshare because you don't think of like the longterm consequences. And things like my house,
Starting point is 00:06:31 like if it wasn't for my sisters being like, you're not posting that. Cause you can see the whole house in that. Like God knows what would have happened. Do you know what I mean? Like the privacy of being on social media, like people don't understand how like detrimental it is. Like anyone can find your house. It's so easy.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Yeah. Cause I was so stupid at your age like I would do the most stupid things and everybody would know everything about me yeah and I would never I would never have been able to like have the responsibility you do in terms of it's a lot of job it is a lot yeah but being an influencer while you're in school is like it's a unique experience isn't it yeah um I guess what was we always talk about negatives and stuff but I wanted to be like really positive in a sense of what was what is the positive of like having that both sides of your life I feel like for me
Starting point is 00:07:17 it was definitely a positive because like I made so many like connections with brands and people and without it I wouldn't have made some of my like best friends so I feel like it was always good but the like negative side of growing up in school like people are horrible and growing up anyways as a teenage girl is hard being in that kind of environment where girls literally look at you and be like why is she wearing that like non-screen uniform day was always a dread because you'd be like what they're gonna say about my outfit things like that and I feel like girls always used to be but boys are just as bad like i feel like we always think oh girls are so horrible girls are this that they are they're horrible too but like the boys were just as bad as the girls like the accounts they make about me the group chats like they just make
Starting point is 00:07:57 pictures of me like edit things and i just be like your actual boys like what are you doing i remember once in this is so like pathetic but i remember in dodgeball um their teachers used to put you at the back so there'll be like four groups yeah so the group that was standing on the benches and then the people behind would just be waiting to have their go some girls ran into like the i think it was like the p closet and it had like rugby balls and netballs and they was chucking them full pelt on my back of my head to the point like i just fell to the ground i can't see anything because it was like full pelt and at first i was just like maybe it was like a mistake but then i kept fit i was like they're not joking anymore so things
Starting point is 00:08:32 like that you just think like what so how do you cope with that negativity then because if you're online it all it doesn't just happen in school it comes home with you as well yeah i feel like for me i since i've left school like I don't have contact with anyone like I just kind of left it there I was like you know what I've got no good experiences with anyone other than like three people but I feel like for me coming home I tell my parents everything like I was very open and I feel like that's one thing that I always tell people like if I didn't have my family to get me through it like god knows what would have happened but I feel like also I used to tell the school everything and people would be like she's such a snake and i'd
Starting point is 00:09:07 be like no i don't want to get hurt i don't want to have to come home like this every day so i feel like definitely having my family to like help me go into the school because teachers just belittle us like they just think like um it's just a little hissy fit you know i mean they'll go over it but like when parents go in i feel like schools do more about it so i had them come in and then i don't know just like when i went home i feel like social media was like a complete opposite world so when i went on there i could just be myself and i didn't think about the school people which is probably really weird because you think it would like carry on at home which it did but i'd completely block it out and just go film content and it would be like a distraction if your parents also like intervening on your public socials you probably didn't experience as much
Starting point is 00:09:50 of it at home as like somebody who didn't have that yeah and that breaks my heart because I know what it's like for people that don't have the parents like that help as much as I like mine did and I remember at one point there was like a massive room and it was like I'm Amelie's mum and I paid the school to protect her I was like what is going on like genuinely this was a rumor for like a year and everyone was like yeah her mom and dad literally pay that teacher like that teacher just offends her i was like no but can't you see i'd have been like yeah they do but can't you see like i'm literally just getting defended because i'm in the right and you're in the wrong like oh it was awful but i definitely think like with going up on social media there is negatives but I thought it would all be like negatives from
Starting point is 00:10:29 online I never thought people that actually knew me would be the problem which I feel like a lot of people think like oh she definitely gets a lot of hate online which everyone experiences a fair share if you're putting yourself out there you're asking well you're not asking people are going to give their opinion which is horrible it shouldn't be the case but people do people are so opinionated but I feel like definitely with certain influencers in particular like they come home and get the hate more than I was at school and would come home and just distract myself like getting the nice comments was so much better than being at school and that's why I feel like when I got the opportunity to leave and do this full time I was like I'm never going back because one of the things I learned um actually when I was researching episode I didn't know that
Starting point is 00:11:09 if you earn above a certain threshold you didn't have to continue people get so confused I didn't know that was a thing and actually blew my mind do you think had you had a more positive experience at school you would have carried on into education anyway. Hi, I'm Richard Karn, and you may have seen me on TV talking about the world's number one expandable garden hose. Well, the brand new Pocket Hose Copperhead with Pocket Pivot is here, and it's a total game changer. Old-fashioned hoses get kinks and creases at the spigot, but the Copperhead's Pocket Pivot swivels 360 degrees for full water flow and freedom to water with ease all around your home. When you're all done, this rust-proof anti-burst hose shrinks back down to pocket size for
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Starting point is 00:13:26 scraped a four and a five in my gcc's for the things numbers now yeah like basically like like a c okay um but no i literally scraped a pass basically so i was never academic sports i was really like really sport i've always been very sporty growing up so i feel like like in my sports like a stars and things so I was like okay in there would I have went to college and done that probably not I used to do dancing so I feel like if I wasn't to have done social media I probably would have went down you know going to dance college doing all that I definitely would not have wanted to actual education ever like this is from the age of like six of me knowing growing up being like I'm gonna dance like I was never an education person I was
Starting point is 00:14:05 more like academic was never me doing things practical things just make more sense to me like even if I was to have gone to like I looked at college it was only until June I made my decision to not go it was like a back and forth I used to say to my teachers like do you think I should do it and they was all like yeah and then some of them would be like you know what no like you're not academic like you don't you don't want to do this why waste two more years of your life I think the teachers have said no probably the real ones because I feel like the ones that say yeah they're just like okay yeah you gotta stay in education but some of them didn't even know about this law so they're like well actually you can't do that and I'd be like well actually I
Starting point is 00:14:40 can yeah I had to look it up because I was like what yeah but there is actually like a certain amount of money which I'm so grateful that I can even do because when I started this I didn't do it for the money at all like and even when before I got on social media like I didn't even think money was involved I just thought it was already rich I just thought I literally want a Nickelodeon flower headband that would have made my week or year probably but I didn't even like understand like when people say like are you monetizing your YouTube I'd be like what does monetize mean I'd be like oh my god you can make money after 10k I was like what is this but I feel like it's definitely something that I've obviously grown up now knowing how much like it can be a career but I still don't take it as a job I just
Starting point is 00:15:19 take it as a hobby do you find it really bizarre that now that you can monetize it as much as you have to the point where you don't even need to go to school yeah it's just weird because like I'm talking to all my friends they're like yeah I'm gonna go uni I'm doing this I'm doing that and then I'm just like I've started work like I've literally got my whole job now so it's just weird but I wouldn't want it any other way like what I do is what I love and I feel like if you can get money from it it's just the bonus but I would never see it as like I'm only going to do this brand because of the money every brand I do has to be authentic and organic and I feel like the more it's like something I'd use myself the more I would rather do it and it has money it's just
Starting point is 00:15:58 a bonus I saw that you opened your GCSE results in a YouTube video yeah that's quite a brave thing to do because regardless of what you get it's like a very big moment in your life so to put that on the internet I wouldn't have wanted to put it on the internet I mean I literally woke up 8am went to get my results at 9 posted the video by 12 that day like it was like hardcore but I think regardless if I passed maths or failed maths I would have posted it because I just think like the more real you are with people the more they respect it and I feel like why hide it when everyone has to go through it every year 11 has to do their GCSEs it's like a thing and I feel like do you know what's really funny because like my friends in Spain they don't have to do that's like it's a GCSE I'm like that's like the biggest thing in like uk yeah you're in school
Starting point is 00:16:45 your whole life and that builds up to that exam but i said to everyone i was like no matter what i get i'm gonna show them because it's real and if my emotions was i was gonna start break down crying let them see it you know i mean but definitely some people will probably be like never i wouldn't have done that and all my friends i was like are you filming yours just for yourself because i always film everything yeah keep it as a memory and they was like no they were just gonna live it in the moment I was like fair enough but I want to keep that memory forever because I just think it's cool um so when I'd done it yeah I was with my best friend I didn't let my sister come with me I didn't let my mum and dad well they was in Spain anyway so they was like you don't need us to come home I was like no you can
Starting point is 00:17:19 stay out there for another few days so they was actually driving home from Spain the day I got my results but yeah I remember my sister was like can I come I was like no way I'm going with my friend I'm making it as like unserious but serious at the same time because I didn't want it to be like pressurizing and having like someone from my family I don't know it would have scared me more because I've been like you're on my shoulder and my sister did so well in like uni GCC I was like I do not need her in my email so but she was so like supportive was it a good even was your video regardless of what your results were did you get a good reaction from sharing it so I personally got actually I passed what I needed to pass I failed everything that I
Starting point is 00:17:57 didn't maybe I should have cared but I didn't really care about I've not used my maths GCSE since I actually took the exam so I wouldn't worry too much no literally but i feel like for me i had an okay like impact result ever but i saw some influencers really getting hate for it and i thought you know what you're so brave for putting that out there and like for people to just hate on you i just thought like i don't know it shows more about them than you not everyone's academic you can be really really clever in other ways than just you doing like i don't know fractions on a piece of paper but good for the people that are but like you don't need to hate on people for not but i was personally all right to be honest everyone was pretty nice to me i think it is one of those situations in your job especially when you're growing up that regardless of what you do someone's always going to hate on
Starting point is 00:18:42 it because if you did really well you'd be showing off yeah yeah if you did really badly you're a bad people want to see my day in the last but if i show something like me i don't know going out for a beach you know like this is just not realistic i'm like but everything else was you're just looking at the one thing that maybe not every teenage girl does but i don't know i try and make as like real as possible because i know that it's like better to be like that and also i find it just like entertaining watching my videos about being like oh i remember that day and it's all real like if i was doing it all stage and set up i just don't know i wouldn't enjoy what i'm doing will you want to watch that video back in 10 years i actually do watch all my videos back like i re-watched like four youtube
Starting point is 00:19:17 videos yesterday of me when i was 12 and i was like oh i think that would make me cringe so it does make me cringe like you watching about love island must have made you like want to throw up i think even watching it the week like the week i left even watching the episode where i left i could not imagine being on tv like i i would not watch it i think but i feel like youtube's different no i think youtube's worse because everybody in the world sees it no more people see tv no one really sees my video like my old videos didn't do very well either they didn't do anywhere near as well as now so it's like give it time they're gonna come back they are gonna haunt me when i'm older at least like some of them i've deleted because i was like i cannot
Starting point is 00:19:52 have that on youtube like me like playing with slime at the age of like nine how to ride a penny board you remember them like little skateboards a penny board it's like a skateboard but like a like a i don't know i'm really showing my age now aren't i well my sister used to have it so i took hers i thought you'd know that no i wasn't i was really i was a big recluse as a child so i didn't really do anything okay right my sister used to just go on a penny board and the little flickers do you remember them the scooters with like two need like uh no see your sister's less injury prone than me so she got to do all the fun stuff whereas i literally would have hurt myself no yeah we had that in spain every summer we we go Spain and we go on our flickers and then like
Starting point is 00:20:28 roller skates and stuff you know I'd actually hurt myself if social media deleted itself tomorrow or it disappeared don't say that it wouldn't but like you would well you've had offers of from other brands to go and work with them haven't you oh yeah like when I'm on shoots and stuff they're like if you ever need anything like i'm like yeah maybe in the future yeah so if social media disappeared we'd all have some sort of thing to go on to that's why i think that you shouldn't do influencing as a degree or put all of your eggs into one basket because it can disappear and it's my it's my job but i just think like whatever happens happens go to uni do business learn about it
Starting point is 00:21:05 in a different kind of way and then who knows what will happen if you just do it as a side hustle at the beginning also my favorite tiktoks are people that have corporate jobs and doing a day in the life because i love watching people actually do like watching people the nine to five like come to me with my nine to five i'm like wow what is she doing i love watching the finance bros tiktoks they're really bizarre property tiktoks are good i like to see the houses that i can't afford you know when they go like hey how much is your house and they're like can we go look around and then they have like a little tour have you seen them yeah but i wouldn't want to show anyone my house oh if someone asked me to come in my room i'm prepared just seriously
Starting point is 00:21:37 you don't know what you're gonna see on the floor i literally just like throw everything there's makeup splodge everywhere fake tan everywhere on my carpet i need to get my carpet read on sign i'm talking this is why i don't let my parents into my house no my mom literally comes in my room and turns straight back around she's like i'm not looking it's disgusting fair enough but it's all part of being a teenager isn't it literally but then being a teenager in the public eye is different because you have to you feel pressured to come across perfect all the time yeah it's definitely a big expectation from people how do you feel like growing up in the public eyes like impacted your friendships because I can imagine it's really intense like
Starting point is 00:22:16 there might be people that just want to hang around with you because you get free stuff or like you go to all these nice events or they're fans of people that you're associated with I feel like it's really hard and that's something that like no one talks about enough is how like stressful is because I've got so many like good groups of friends from before I did this and you'll notice I'm still friends with all of them now and it's more now making new friends I'm like who do I trust who do I not because for example I was in a friendship group for a while like a year and a half ago and it just become like they were saying things like tag me it's like why do you want to be tagged like so obsessive I wouldn't want to like ever do that
Starting point is 00:22:55 to my if my friend did social media I would be so supportive but I wouldn't get involved I just leave it to them they're the pros not me do you know what I mean but when they said things like tag me or they'd be like oh oh that looks so cool can I come next time and I'd just be like I wouldn't ask you to come to your job with you like it gets the point I was just a bit like this is weird and I kind of clocked on a lot of people were telling me like they're literally going to school just bragging about the things because I'm so like generous with my stuff if I get gifted stuff and I'm opening it in front of my friends number one I feel bad anyways because I'm like I feel like I'm so like generous with my stuff. If I get gifted stuff and I'm opening it in front of my friends, number one, I feel bad anyways because I'm like, I feel like I'm bragging.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Even though I'm not, I'm literally just opening my parcel. But like doing it in front of people and they're like, when did you get that? I'm like, oh, I don't know. They've just sent it to me. I just feel like I don't want to come across as like, oh, I got this and this for free.
Starting point is 00:23:38 And then when they do that, but then it just gets even more awkward when they're like, can I have some? And if I offer you, I really don't care. Like that's's me offering but it's when they take it and then I just be like I want like are they just using me for this stuff and I have learned and I've had to deal with quite a few different scenarios but I feel like even talking to boys it's so hard like yeah I've stuck to the same boy since I was like 11 because I just know he wouldn't use me for my following. Now I'm like, who are all these people? Like they're all just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Like I'll meet a boy and they'll be like, oh yeah, you're good on TikTok, aren't you? And I'm like, no, no, I don't want to be with you anymore. Like I can't talk to boys that like know me. It doesn't get any easier when it comes to boys. Just thought I'd throw that out there for you. Please don't tell me this now. It doesn't get any better but
Starting point is 00:24:25 i just feel like because it's such like a shock to the system no one understands even at my age like people think our age and our generation know everything but like we're still confused on these influencer thing i'm doing it and like what is going on it's just weird to me because i followed so many people that have done this and i've been a fangirl like proper hardcore with my friends watch youtube videos of like Saffron Barker, people like that. And now I'm like at an event with her, like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:24:51 But to be honest, I'm going to admit this now, like when I'm with certain, like me and my best friend Ellie love Love Island. So when it was on this season and Jess was at an event, I was like, I sneakily took like a little pic. I was like, Ellie, look who it is.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Oh, she's one of them. I was like, look who it is. I was so like, oh my God. Like I love Jess, but she's actually really nice as well so I'm happy that she was nice because I was like please tell me she's gonna be nice but she come up to him was like hi I'm Jess I was like I know I was like I love you but yeah it's just weird like being surrounded by people that I literally looked up to I mean like the Love Islanders they come from like this year but I mean before like Sffron all of that kind of era that was like my growing up when it comes to friends though like um when you get older
Starting point is 00:25:30 people don't care as much like my friends actually don't care they like but i'd like friends like that i would like a friend to be like oh well done that's really cool but it's like when they just get too involved i'm like you're just trying to like do what i'm doing or what i just think it's so hard and my mom and dad will be like don't like the look of her don't trust her and i'm like always listen to your parents yeah they're always right at the end even if i think like no they'd never it's they're always the first ones to be right and my mom would go told you say i'm like yeah if i had a pound for every time my parents told me that yeah and they're always right like it's actually annoying because I just try like push it off and be like no so it's you learn to do
Starting point is 00:26:10 social media basically off your sister so both your sister and your mum has so I've got two sisters who both do it does your mum do social media as well no slightly she wants to okay no I'm joking she has like 15,000 followers and yeah girly just likes coming along with me she just comes along with me and she's like oh i like this it's anti-aging you don't need this yeah i'll take that and i'm like okay so how does that work in your term in terms of like family dynamic if you're all kind of like on social media everyone's supportive of each other my sister still works they don't just do this full time okay so they're still at work so like literally it's like my mom has to do three runs to the station a day to drop like one sister in early one sister in midday and then me like late at night to go to events and things so
Starting point is 00:26:54 it works well we all really really enjoy what we're doing and like my parents are so supportive but they'd never be the kind of parents to be like don't do what you want to do follow this kind of thing like they've always just let us do what we want to do and support us obviously they'd be there to be like actually don't do that but like they're strict but they're not strict like offering constructive criticism yeah definitely um selena gomez says that um having a big social media following comes with like a lot of pressure and it's very intense because you always have to double you always have to question yourself and double think before you post something do you feel the same way about having your audience because obviously you're young but also your audience is going to
Starting point is 00:27:33 be really young as well they're very young and I always want to like show them that you can do anything and and then the comments and the message is like thank you for showing it's okay to not be okay because I feel like on social media everyone's so oh life's perfect everything's amazing which it is amazing that what we get to do but no one shows that like we're all real and human and I feel like just to be able to help younger girls in knowing like you can have problems you can go through bad days um but I feel like just being able to help people in that kind of sense is like the main thing for me it's just because like when I was growing up I always looked at people like Saffron and was like oh I really want to do what she does but like even Saffron like she shows so much of like her down days and things like that and I love that
Starting point is 00:28:16 and when she shows like her acne I'm like do you know what we all have it why is everyone not appreciating it enough and that's why i really appreciate like the influences that show they're all them are over all the other ones how do you get yourself to a state where you're emotion you're mentally and emotionally mature enough to do to like think about what you're posting especially at such a young age i think with my age i feel so much older like i'm just so much more mature i didn't realize how old you were until someone told me yeah but I feel like with my age everyone that I talk to is like your age like my manager's age and then my sisters are literally the same age as you guys so when I'm talking to you guys I'm just like I feel like I'm older than I am yeah but not in the way that like I want to be older but I just am
Starting point is 00:29:00 more mature having older sisters really really made me mature anyway I feel like growing up doing social media, you have to be head and like everything switched on. You can't have one of them days where you're like, actually, I'm going to be messing around as a teenager. You have to be like, everything's got to be perfect, which is obviously hard. And it comes with a lot of like stress and ag.
Starting point is 00:29:18 And when I'm out with my friends, like I have to be on my best behavior. And sometimes they're like, just live loosely. And I'm like, no, like people could be filming or people take pictures and stuff like that which is amazing but I feel like I would never change what I do for the world but again it does come with a lot of pressure and people don't really realize and they just think like oh you know everyone has pressure growing up anyways but it's like added on you did your your first big collaboration with pretty little thing before you're 16 i was 15 when i started doing so that's a big thing to have to deal with at 15 i think it was amazing they are
Starting point is 00:29:52 literally like the best team for helping with like if you're anxious like that all the girls that work for them are so nice and i get on with them all so well but also like doing that it's nerve-wracking having your own event like I was like what do I do like do I go to people but I feel like things like that no normal 16 year olds thrown into a situation where they've got to like have their own event and host it so it was always really like nerve-wracking but I think out of all the teams I could have done the first thing with that was like the perfect brand for me and I feel like it's so authentic and organic it just was perfect they also sponsored your 16th birthday yeah so authentic and organic it just was perfect they also sponsored
Starting point is 00:30:25 your 16th birthday yeah so this was the event it was my 16th birthday collaboration together yeah so it was for my sweet 16th launch and it was the birthday week so it was really cool but you also have done like um other really cool collaborations you collaborated with Tony and Guy yeah London Fashion Week that was amazing interviewing models backstage yeah I got to look around and see what I've never seen that in my life so I was like what the hell they look so good like everyone's like model looking I didn't realize that models were so like perfect they are so perfect that's a lot of responsibility to do at the age of 16 like to have to interview other people yeah it's scary but I actually love doing it so I just think it's like yeah just cool and
Starting point is 00:31:05 fun what was your favorite like memory or experience from London Fashion Week when you were doing that um definitely when I was back stage Tony and Guy the second show we done I think it was called Paul Castello um yeah it was really really good fun and I don't know it was just really fun I got to meet a lot of the people that do hair I don't know what they call like apprenticeship like they're young like my age that do hair but I didn't realize how much they include like the younger generation to do in like these big models hair so it was really nice to meet them because I was like you're literally my age and you're getting to do fashion week as a hairdresser like that's amazing um but I actually made like a really good friend out of that so
Starting point is 00:31:41 still text them on Instagram now but yeah it was just really nice to like see all of the backstage because i feel like we don't see that you just sit in the you know in the season you just do this like yeah the glitz and glamour backstage is not the same as it is on stage it was really cool to see what it's actually like because i always watch like victoria's secret you know like the bts videos of their catwalks but i didn't realize how cool it actually is so when you now think about your career what is like your big goal like if Cherish phoned you tomorrow and said you've got this and it was your dream deal what would it be oh my god um Teen Vogue like I want to be in Teen Vogue so bad and I want to do that teaching it's like I was the cover of Vogue I want to do that I so want to do
Starting point is 00:32:23 that but no I feel like going on television doing more presenting definitely I love like talking to people especially like I feel like interviewing and stuff's just really like cool and I've still got my podcast coming out soon so being able to interview like some really really cool guests on there that like I even look up to or I just like aspire to be like I just feel like it's really nice when you get to meet people that you've seen online so just keep going to events and also like i don't know there's so much in the pipeline i can't really say but like there's so much coming up that's like dream come true i don't know why i ask influencers or people in the public eye like what they're coming what
Starting point is 00:32:57 they've got coming up because no one can ever say there is no point so i just waste my own oxygen i get so scared even this morning i was like am i to say I'm going on her podcast or do I keep it quiet? I was like, get ready with me for a podcast. Everyone just saying come on my podcast. It does great publicity for me. So I'm never going to shoot it down. What would you say is like, what would be your biggest piece of advice
Starting point is 00:33:16 to any young person that's considering doing, like following your footsteps? I feel like anyone can do it. And no matter what age, I feel like because of my age, people do can do it and no matter what age i feel like because of my age people do belittle it and be like she's only 16 but anyone can do anything at any age so i feel like just carrying on following your dreams if you've got something you want to go for do it no matter what people are saying because i feel like at school it was so like
Starting point is 00:33:38 horrible yeah i got through it anyone can get through it like if you want to do something don't let anyone stop you do it especially like if your parents let you do obviously do it like don't be saying that your parents are going to be like what but I feel like there's just so much that you can do and the fact that people actually don't want to do what they want to do because of people's opinions it like breaks my heart because I just think it's so nice to be able to do what I want to do I think it's also really important to say like to be to tell your parents because obviously with the things you were going through at school you've got to open up you have to be open i think that a lot of young people were too scared to talk to adults about what they're experiencing on social media definitely i feel like people just think
Starting point is 00:34:17 it's like embarrassing like even like at school i used to be like oh my god do i tell my mum what they said or it's like even the rumors i'd be like should be like, oh my God, do I tell my mum what they said? Or it's like, even the rumours, I'd be like, should I really be telling my mum these rumours? And then I thought, do you know what? If I don't, I'm keeping it into myself and it's always just good to tell someone.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Even if that's a teacher, a parent, a sibling, anyone, your nan, your grandad, like someone is better than no one. So yeah,
Starting point is 00:34:38 especially because if you're having something, if you're experiencing something really bad and if they know and something happens to you, then they know what's happened. Yeah. And they kind of are all just behind it anyways then and they can support you in a better way so i always ask all my guests the same final question but this is gonna be because i watch your podcast okay do you want me to tell you what the question is i thought you were gonna tell me the question then if you could offer a piece of advice to your
Starting point is 00:35:05 younger self what would it be based on your life and career journey so far for me I feel like the best advice I'd say is like take your time with things I feel like I had so much pressure of like wouldn't do everything at once but just taking your time doing things when you want to do them and also just be wary of people I feel like at the beginning I was so oblivious and just thought everyone wanted to be my friend but everyone's in it for a reason so it just depends if their reason's true or you know like other reasons but yeah I just say I don't know keeping myself aware but also like I just wish my little self had someone to look up to as much as I want people to look up to me in a way as well so yeah that's it that's the final question that's a really good answer and it's massive culture shock
Starting point is 00:35:46 to see you how you behave at 16 versus how I behaved at 16 honestly the amount of people that told me this and they're like I had a fringe and all this I'm like you know what every 16 year old is different I'm pretty sure I'm still wearing blue eyeshadow at 16 so I'm so glad that TikTok didn't exist back then can you imagine no I don't I'm so glad it doesn't but thank you I can't wait to see your podcast and eventually see you on Teen Vogue you'll have to come on and we can talk all things you next time thank you for letting me come on as well it's amazing big fan

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