Girls Know Nothing - S2 Ep45: Lucy Reeves | Gym In 2024, Self Confidence & Becoming An Influencer

Episode Date: January 24, 2024

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also when you read out the bio it's like inspiring women every single day it's just like so fucking crazy please stop welcome back to another episode of girls know nothing today's guest lucy reeves is a fitness influencer that likes to promote body positivity after starting girls that lift facebook group while graduating from university with a marketing degree she's now built up over 400 000 followers on social media as well as over 80 000 followers in in Girls That Lift on Facebook. Lucy also partners with huge brands such as Gymshark and RunApp to promote body positivity and to show you guys that being a fitness influencer does not come in one size.

So welcome to the studio, Lucy. I met you at a freestyle event. Yes. And I've literally followed you ever since. And I literally love your content. So I was like planning a 2024 podcast. I was like, I have to have Lucy on. I'm like a little fangirl this is

my first podcast is it yeah I love that I know yeah do you plan me right I'll do it nicely I promise it won't be too difficult no I'm honestly I love your content because we were talking earlier about how when we were growing up fitspo was was just so toxic. And like the fitness industry, I always felt like the fitness industry wasn't going to be for like me because of how small everyone was. And it was just pictures of salads and detox teas. And I cannot stand that shit.

Yeah, so grim. So, you know, what inspired you to start making the fitness content that you do now? I mean, I think that exact reason. So when I was at uni, I started a little fitness like Instagram and I took the approach of okay I'll shrink myself so I fit in and that's how I'll grow it so I just went and tried to go smaller and smaller and smaller so that I thought

well that's what everyone else looks like and they're doing really well everyone loves their content everyone thinks that they're really cool so I'll just do that um and then I was doing all the thing that all the bodybuilders do and I think that's the other thing that people normalize in the fitness industry that the everyday person should train and eat like a bodybuilder track hit all these different targets and it's not realistic in everyone's life you can't not everyone can stand there with a scale and track how much protein they've got. Like, let's teach people how to accurately feed themselves rather than like, just track it and then you're good.

And then I was tracking all the way up until like third year of uni. And I then lost my granddad. And the turning point for me was I was still tracking when I was providing end of life care for him. And I sort of looked in the mirror and I thought, what the hell are you doing? Why are you still tracking and being like, I was panicking that I wasn't hitting a step count while providing end of life care for my granddad who did nothing but care for me my whole life so why why was it important and in the back of my mind the whole time and at that point I was like no I've got to get grip I've got to switch things up so I stopped refilming each clip 100 times to make sure the angle was right amount of RDLs I used to do like just do one set and be like camera angles wrong turn it try and get a different one turn it trying to get a different one and then I just stopped and I was like okay well that's what the RDL looks like and that's how my body looks doing it I'll just post it and so many people really appreciated it and thought and felt the same way as I did that the

fitness industry was like look one way and you'll be considered as like a successful athlete or fit rather than like performance based um so that basically sent my content down a river of body confidence and like trying to just encourage other people to be happy with their current physique rather than be like i can't post any pictures or film myself or look in the mirror unless i look at how everyone else does online because a lot also a lot the time, not everyone else looks like that online. They've refilmed that shot about 500 times to try and make sure that it looked right. Yeah, I think, do you know what?

When tracking is such a horrible thing to do, also makes you realise that what one size of portion of pasta is supposed to be as opposed to what I eat. But I think most of the time people do it because especially when you're going through something tough like you were saying you're providing end-of-life care it's because it's the only thing you really have control over yeah do you feel like that probably had a little bit of a part to play yeah and I

think it's also just because it became the normal that grandma would bring me like four biscuits and I'd be like get over it eat four biscuits your grandma is quite obviously coping by feeding yeah you know all grandmas do they're just like I'll bake to your new cake I was like I didn't even finish when you baked yesterday but she just they just they love to feed and that's how they sort of care for people so but I was like yeah I just thought you need to just get over it it's not that deep eating three biscuits instead of four is not going to kill you but you know I think it is as well when we like I see so many jokes and content out there that take the mick out of fitness influencers for refilming their shot yeah and it's like day and life fitness influencer and they like put water on themselves turn the camera on do one

rep turn the camera off yeah yeah no I mean it's low-key true because that's how I started. I mean, I wasn't an influencer then. I was a uni student trying to film. But it was, you just really take it a hundred times and you think, I remember filming with my friends who were also filming at the time. Weren't influencers or anything like that. She was like, oh Lucy, that angle is not right. Can you just try it again?

But like maybe from a bit higher, you can see like either my cellulite or my back hole and I was you know okay and again and again and I know that I had done that as well I was like this is just too much just just film it and post it how it looks normally I think it's well when you when you're training I think because I've seen certain content creators that have the angle perfect yeah I look at the room when I'm working out and I'm like I don't look like that but also like you're not supposed to look perfect when you're working out because you're working out for a different reason yeah um that is so true I remember looking all the time at like fitness influencers I'm like you guys aren't breaking a sweat yeah my face when

I'm weightlifting is awful I watched some videos back I honestly look like I'm going for a poo it's awful like a deadlift my face is pulling all sorts of things I'm like how are these girls deadlifting some really heavy weights and just looking absolutely gorgeous while I'm doing it it's not me it's not me at all I took a post-workout photo the other day yesterday and my face is a completely different color to my body red little tomato face I literally look like a little red little cherry and the rest of me is like a normal skin color but you know obviously body confidence is like a massive central theme that goes through all of your now all of your fitness content um and obviously you were talking about like how you were trying to control your eating. How has that shaped how you view your own body now?

I mean, I, this, that last year I did London Marathon and for me that helped me see that you should look at your body based on what it can do rather than what you want it to look like. That sort of shift in mindset for me really tied like body confidence and fitness together because for a lot of people they don't think that they could really align um which I guess is makes sense a lot of people say to me like how can you be confident in your body but yet work out because a lot of people see working out as wanting to change your body um so for me having the approach of what my body can do

over what my body should look like doing it, especially doing it, was a huge shift for me. And now I don't necessarily see my body as like a project that needs to be changed, but one that could be challenged. And that's what I think, you know, doing something, you don't have to go quite as extreme as running a marathon. Like that's quite an extreme. know doing something you have to go quite as extreme as London running London Marathon like that's quite an extreme quite hard um but for me that I'm quite a all of extremes girl I think so many people are like that um and for me it had to go okay well if I'm not going all

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Social media can be such a negative place though. And even if you're trying to be a positive voice and all of that stuff, there's always going to be some idiot online who wants to like make it a negative space or try and make you change, like make you revert back to your old style of living in your old content how do you cope with that um do you know I find it easier when the comments come from men okay when the comments come from like other women I find it quite difficult because um it's like why why are we still in this space of just tearing people down but um a lot of the time people make the comments because they either don't understand it or they're jealous of what you maybe are doing so like some of my running content people like you're really slow I'm like okay you do it yeah I had that actually

after the London Marathon I did it in five hours well 4 45 I think I can't actually remember still finished it right and someone's like that was really slow for fitness influence I was like babe I've only become a fitness influencer in the past like two months like it wasn't a full-time job of mine I was just a girl that liked running also even if it is my full-time job why should I then be like super fast but also fitness is such a broad yeah concept like you might be a runner like mo farah probably couldn't lift as heavy as you but you can run faster also like do you know people don't realize how far a marathon is like it's a long time and it was only and also in your training you only do 34k

really and then you yeah so you actually have to just find another 8k from somewhere like right brilliant and just pull it out somewhere yeah you just cry the rest of the way around because I think somebody said to me that last six miles is like running a whole new marathon honestly yeah and people go oh you know but you have all the time to train or you should you know be faster I'm like why should I be faster I was training for it while I had a corporate job um but it doesn't make any difference I still did it do you know what I mean and and running running marathon is so hard and there was like quite old people running it as well yeah that was impressive you sit there and you think

wow I'm struggling crying you're laughing me I actually saw when I fit across the finish line after I got put into a wheelchair that there was an old couple that, yeah, I was the really dramatic one in the wheelchair. But there was an old couple that were like, I was like, can you take my photo? Because I went on my own. And they just finished the last, London was the last one of the big six. And as a couple, they'd run all of the big six marathons in the world in the last two years. And I was like, I am embarrassed. It took me like four months to recover.

It took me four months months to recover from London. It took me four months to grow and wear toenails back. Honestly, like my knee was, felt like it had a sponge in it for months. Yeah. Both of them did. And I, the next day I actually couldn't walk, but could not walk. I had to go down the stairs backwards.

Yeah, and I couldn't even sit on the toilet. I had to be carried on. I thought to myself, this is something you should film, like fitness influence. I can't even sit on the toilet. There you go then. Like that's how you know you've done your job properly, right? But you said then about like how you were working corporate job when you were starting this. How do you know that it's time to quit your job and put this, like go to this full time? Because

you're turning away from stability to do this. Took a while, I can't lie to you it really took a while I was on the verge for quite some time and I was like no I also went to uni for three years I did a diploma so I did four years including my degree I was like I've just worked four years to work in a corporate job like my dream job but I did it for eight months I was like I can't quit now I've just done all of that work to be here like if three years ago Lucy would have seen this she'd have been like what are you doing yeah you've just paid also paid so much money intuition fees to like get into that position of a job um and for me it wasn't until I sort of had a more like a rolling income with brands until I could do it because I have no backing like I don't

come from a lot of wealth my mum wouldn't have been able to like support me I still had to pay rent so I only would have been able to do the transition once I had realistically got a stable income from it which I think a lot of people don't talk about yeah because they're like no I just knew it was time I'm like no I knew it was time because I had a stable income from it um or was predicted stable income like I was signing the contracts so I. So I wouldn't have been able to do it if not. I did it for years on the side of my job. And looking back at it now, I think, how did I do it? I posted every single day while I worked in London. Yeah, because there's always a lot of stigmas there

that people that are influencers are usually, what's the phrase when you like, neppa babies? I don't know what that means. Where you come from loads of wealth. Yeah. So it's kind of just like a hobby that you can make money from. Yeah. No, for me, I don't come from a lot of wealth.

My parents are split and, you know, I was raised by a single mum. So we didn't have a lot of wealth growing up sun holidays camper caravan parks it was you know the sort of thing that I did a lot of growing up my jacket ran at the charity shop I love it though yeah I mean I know it's now cool but back when I got it for my job and I was like I can't afford it never used to be though no um so I bought my suits from a charity shop yeah, I didn't come from a lot of wealth. And it was, I never thought that you could earn money through doing this. I knew that people had money doing it, but I didn't think that you'd actually be able to make enough to supplement it. I always thought that they had support from either families or they just were generally wealthy and that

before they could do a few posts and earn a little bit more pocket money and sort of be the way that they lived but it's not realistically do you think like because of that background leaving a corporate job scarier because both my parents come from lower economic like socioeconomic backgrounds so when I was like oh I'm gonna leave my job I don't think I don't think my dad truly understands what I do my mum is on she's I think she's just about grasped it now um that's because I live with her so she's like are you filming I'm like yep she actually bought me a little on air sign you turn on or off to put outside my bedroom because I'm 24 yeah I still live at home with my mum that's fine I mean have you seen the prices of houses I'm just never Yeah, I still live at home with my mum. That's fine. I mean, have you seen the prices of houses?

I'm just never going to leave. I said that to her the other day. You know I'm not leaving, right? Yeah, I just, it was absolutely petrifying leaving my job. Lucky enough, I didn't really know what money felt like. So the income I was getting from my very low wage job because I was post-grad so it was grad pay which is rubbish absolutely nothing after you paid for your commute into London and then you're like right brilliant well I've got one pound left I can buy myself a prat

if I'm lucky um maybe go mcdonald's drive through on the way home. But yeah, no, I didn't come from anything. So it was really hard to be like, yep, I'll quit. And then even now I panic and I probably bug my management all the time for being like, oh, what's next? Because I'm just, I always panic. And I'm also a little bit of a pessimist that I'll be like, right, well,

I won't be working with them next month. So how am I going to, and then I panic. I'm like, OK, how am I going to make ends meet? How am I going to pay my rent? And how do you manage motivation in a job like this then? Because like it is people like think you get so much freedom and you do, but you do work seven days a week. Yeah. And you work, you can work everywhere, but it also means you do work seven days a week yeah and you work you can work everywhere but it also means you can work everywhere like there's two flips of the coin um I don't think I fully I have one or two days where I fully switch off uh from Instagram or whatever but it's rare it's very rare um

and like even if you I can't even like just doom scroll anymore through social you know for example if you're like right today's been really long I'm just gonna have a bath and doom scroll for TikTok I watch every TikTok I watch I think I could use that sound yeah you like save stuff yeah and I save it or I send it to my like my my actual account because if I watch it on like I'm trying to have like a private account that I had basically for like school friends and use that in my downtime rather than scrolling through my actual account.

But even so, I send it to the other one. I'm like, oh, that's a great sound. Or I could do something like that. Or that clip looks really cool. I could create something like that. And you end up in a really weird rabbit hole. Yeah, and then next thing I know, notebook's out.

All the ideas are down. And my boyfriends are like,'s 4am please can you stop i'm like sorry i love that um really like authentic non-influency days like get ready with me content oh it's so but i am so unathletic it's a joke i quite like it though because the idea of like I'm guilty of doing it getting up setting your tripod up turning the camera on getting back into bed and I know when I'm cropping it I'm like this is so fake you should see the pile of rubbish it's so much worse and I think that's the other thing that I tried so long to create content that other people were doing that was like going really well so for example the fitness staff that was doing really well tended to be from great angles and they didn't have the sweat or the bad angle or clip or whatever

um and then the days in life or the vlogs I was thinking gosh how is your house so beautiful and tidy and marble and clean because you're only looking at this corner yeah and then not the stuff and I live at home in my family room with my mum and I now share that room with my boyfriend so there's two fully grown adults trying to live two fully grown adult lives living out of one wardrobe there's no room that sounds like chaos there's no honestly there's no room for us to like every Christmas I'm like right I've got a new pair of pajamas where am I going to put these the pajama drawer is overflowing you know you can clear stuff I know but it's like it's shared between my boyfriend and sister meet one in one out if you buy a new coat the other one's got to go it's hard though isn't it

your order a little bit but I'm also like it's just my room is a mess even no matter how hard I try to keep on top of it and even my version of my clean room looks chaotic in comparison to some people's beautifully aesthetic lives my house only looks beautifully aesthetic and clean because I have a dog and if I leave something on the floor she'll eat it yeah so that is the only reason my house looks clean if I didn't have that it probably would be on the floor it's just I think but it's also like the way people's houses are structured and laid out like my bedside cabinets came from my grandma's new caravan that she lives in now she lives in like a static home okay yeah vibe so just all her bedside tables

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Oh, really? Yeah. I was actually surprised that that many people use Facebook still. Me too. Because it's a big group. And it's all the time. Yeah, I get notifications every day.

Yeah, every 10 minutes, someone's posting. That must feel really good to know that you've made that community, though. It is. It's really nice. It is. It's nice that it's sort of like I tried to make it like a non-toxic place where we can just ask fitness content questions and you can just be, you know, just asking questions about lifting

or how are we, what leggings do you guys like or just how are you guys doing and trying to make friends through hobbies rather than circumstances, which I think is really hard in, especially in this current era. Yeah. Cause I think actually like I was saying to one of my friends, like I've been a gym goer for a long time, but obviously it's January. There are people that have joined the gym as part of their new resolutions and I said that it was really sad for me to know that there were groups of girls hiding upstairs away from the weights room or the weights area because they didn't feel comfortable because of the testosterone hanging around I mean it is petrifying it is especially for your first time and like the only reason I feel comfortable

doing it's because I have been going for years like I remember my first time I would hide in the corner too even going to a new gym now I'm like god oh no yeah it's the biggest fear ever my gym I walk in

I'm like yeah I know this place I've been training here for nine years new gym I'm like god I look like I've never been to a gym before how does that piece of equipment work

don't know never seen it in my life how do you pick up a dumbbell what do you think are the stereotypes that women face when it comes to with lifting weights oh there's so many i i can remember even now i like if i go to like my local pub like it's pretty strong for a girl like you can lift quite a lot for a girl i'm like

dude i can lift more than you i know i know i can and he's like no no you can't yeah I can but it's like it's why is it always oh that's really strong for a girl I'm just just I'm just strong can we just leave it as oh you're nice you're strong they have to like put the for a girl on the end of it yeah um I mean I get it but it's like why do you have to really good job well done it's probably worse as well because you're young yeah so they make it like a really like you're a sweet innocent girl yeah vibe I mean you might be but yeah I mean but I also um really so let's see but also they get um you always get the oh you don't get too bulky yes I remember that actually but like being too scared to lift weights because I was worried about looking like a man whatever

that is someone says to me like do you want your legs to get any bigger and I was like yes I do I was like I mean yeah but also if it's a byproduct of what I'm doing that brings me joy absolutely fine with me yeah like I'm not doing it intentionally anymore to grow them I deadlift because it's great for me mentally and for performance wise I run so if that means that my legs are going to get bigger because they're going to get stronger absolutely I um always think about the sound when I'm in the gym now about that woman that's like she lifts weight so she can fight bears in the forest or something. That's always what goes through my head. I'm like, yeah, I want to fight a bear. Yeah.

I just, I always like, I don't want to have to ask anyone to help me lift something up as well. But that comes from a fiercely independent mother. Yeah. Do you think your mother's the reason why you've like, had to really like be that strong person physically? Yeah, I think, but she's also, she never asks anyone to her downfall

for help we've all been there yeah you just I'm not asking but I just don't want to have to be like oh sorry can you just help me pick that up no I'm good I can do it on my own does give me the ick though when I have to open the jar for someone else yeah or when I can't open the jar I'm like for god's sake I can lift like 120 kilograms in the gym this jar just won't work the jam defeated by marmalade I have to go into my can you open it I'm now the designated suitcase person I love it yeah I don't I do for the first three yeah no I'm done now I had it once I used to work in a pub um and we had to move tables of all the time right and I just move them by myself and someone be like you're right do you need some

help I'm all right I'm fine I can do it but my fingers are like losing blood circulation you always I don't know this conversation reminds me of like you but you'd be the kid that has like six chairs under each arm look at the end of the school assembly to put them away yeah um oh my god now I've completely lost where I was talking about I'm not surprised because we're just going like this yeah do you know but I like those kinds of podcasts because I really don't like forcing people's conversation and you should be able to feel comfortable talking about what makes you happy because there's a reason why you're here right to talk about you as a person yeah and my brain is all over the place but like that's normal though because you know we've spent the whole um best part of what half an hour talking about how some people are

actually fed up it's not even just people are fed up of making it consumers are fed up of consuming perfectly curated content and it would just be weird if I sat here and tried to force myself to do the same I hit so many things I think in the last episode I like smacked the microphone against it's just we're just humans even though we're in front of a camera just make you just make mistakes I don't know why I just did that I make so many though it's like a rabbit she's like this I think actually um I do with stuff on here and they end up on wiki feet so you know so far at least you're wearing trainers I did do it I mean got my turners painted I was like I can't get them out there's no point now because if you're doing Paris marathon oh there's no there's gonna be none left you won't have any like because I actually when I first went to get pedicure when I started training for London I had shellac on my toes

so I thought that would be fine and then she removed the shellac and they were all like pitch black and they were just like hanging off

and she looked at me and she was like this is fucking vile she was like they're all going to come off and I was like well yeah

she thought I went partying too much oh like oh too much partying I was like no yeah if you call crying midway the whole way through London She thought I went partying too much. Oh. Like, oh, too much partying. I was like, no. Yeah, if you call crying mid-wave. The whole way through London,

while thousands of people watched both online and in person. Yeah. Yeah. I partied too hard. Like, apart from the troll saying that you ran it too slowly, how was your experience of London? It was great. I was so, so euphoric in so many ways it was so hard

but it was so amazing to see the amount of people just everyday people running um and running for a reason a lot of people run those sort of things for a charity that's close to their heart I did it for a Phyllis Tuckwell not a Phyllis Tuck tuckwell phyllis tuckwell charity which helped me provide under like care for granddad um not just me my family um and they helped us find like the apparatus there's like these chairs that like tip people out sounds really brutal it's not like an ejector i kind of feel like i need one of them but it's sort of so he could stand up really slowly i mean i used it i think more than he actually. He didn't use it that much, but they sort of help you find the furniture

for those sorts of things. And so I ran it for that. And I think that's what's amazing. Everyone's like, I want to go for a sub four. I want to finish. Do you know what, though? I was one of those people. Everyone is, I think, deep down,

because that's what they see everywhere. Because I did my final long run. I did my 20 miles in three and a half hours so it was possible so i was like oh yeah i could do it but then like you have to think about all the other factors like you don't get to choose when you run yeah you also don't practice running with 50 000 other people or for example dodgy tummy dodgy tummy yeah and you have to go I got run over my wheelchair as well so I didn't factor that in my training either no and you have to stand in a queue yeah to go to these little port-a-potties I just vomited outside the queue because I didn't make it in and I'm like I need a wee or for example if you're a female and it's time of the month yeah you don't factor in the

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Indeed on this podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Hiring? Indeed is all you need. Yeah. Yeah, it took a poo in the street. I can't remember who that is. But yeah,

the amount of times I was sent that video. Yeah, me too. They were like, you're going to do this? And I'm like, well, I'm not planning on it. Not doing it intentionally.

But if it happens, it happens. But like, I think actually that was probably one of the most heartwarming things about it and i've seen people's signs as you're walking yeah i got really emotional so did i i cried i think i cried pretty much at every kilometer you know because that's when people stand yeah or every mile that's where people stand to cheer people on but the last 2k i was a bawling mess I paid for the photos you know the photos that they take right and one of them I'm not sure this as I cross the finish line it's appalling it's the worst photo of myself I've ever seen and I like this black marks like mascara rolling down my face and I was also I filmed myself as I ran across the finish line right and so I'm just like this

I was like god that's the most 2020 that you've ever seen influencer in the wild vibes but I just looked yeah just cried my whole way through but you're gonna do Paris yeah you did it for the same charity no so I'm doing Paris with a company called runner they're a training app um and then I use them to train for London paid as a customer um and this time they asked me if I could go run with them well so you can't drop out of Paris now no no options I'm in it well you know do you think you're not going to put pressure on yourself to do it in time no I mean so there's a person in the back of your head that's like you could do it in like a sub four you did it in four five hours last year knock an hour off yeah that's easy it's easy it sounds easy no I thought that meant I started my training and then I did an 18k

the other day and I was like I'm just gonna go for it okay you're putting me to shame I'll see you I'll crawl over the finish line you'll be like just this is the thing I put loads of training in and I probably won't do anything better but I'm not no I'm not putting pressure on myself I'm not going for a time and I think there could possibly be a little bit

more pressure because I'm going with an app that helps people run and I'm going and they've got other athletes that are running with them

that I think are really good at running I'll probably be the slowest one and that's fine just always remember like that there was

the last person to finish london marathon had a brain injury he literally was in a car accident earlier that year and he still finished i know so like you know if he can do it no matter what yeah and it's also just like a little tour of paris so i'm gonna fully take it in i'm not gonna be so zoned in on getting a sub four that i don't look like at the eiffel tower i'm gonna go pro on your head i should get one of those ones. It's like a really, 0.5 or 2. Oh my God,

what is it, like Francis the Train Guy? Yes, yeah. I can't wait to see that content on my socials. Also, I probably, well,

hopefully if you see me at Paris, you won't see me vomiting outside the, I pray for you that you get a full, straight go at it this time. No gels and Lucozade for me, I think. Which gels did you use?

I think it was one of the Lucoz aid ones because i think i lost one of my ones i trained because i've just tried i've just bought the i think they're morton have you seen those apparently they're really good for the stomach i've heard well and they don't make people vomit someone told me to take honey sachets with me my boyfriend is all on salt and honey yeah that's what they told me he fed me two crackers honey and salt didn't feed it didn't feed it to me but he gave it to me on a plate before we did our 18k the other day and i was like i don't want to eat that it looks vile he was like do it i carry jelly cubes in my bra in my 20 mile i'm loving um candy kittens in my

little running pouch i I might try that. They're just, it's just really nice. And I get so sick of the same sweet over and over again. I'm glad I bought a vest though, because I was like rummaging around my bra, like during my 20 mile run, just finding all my snacks. Yeah, no, that's not, it's not ideal. I always ask every guest the same final question.

So if you could offer a piece of advice to your younger self um based on your life and career journey so far what would it be and why care less I think I spent and I still do so it's something I'm still trying to learn to get over but I spent majority of my childhood and then pre like young adult life caring so much not only what other people thought but other people how people perceived me how if I was gonna make the right choice or not just deep thought everything um and now I I don't it's not I don't care but I just don't care to the point that it's detrimental to my health or to the way that I take step forward in life for so long I was like no I can't do that that's public speaking me two years ago no sorry sorry babe can't do that busy I'd have said to you sorry

can't come because I've never done something like this before I'd have been like no I can't whereas now it's like okay well just do it like I just what why do I care so much if it goes wrong or if people see that I'm a bit weird um like why is that so deep it's not um and also like don't spend so long trying to get think that happiness will come from the perfect physique because even when I was smaller I was the least happy I've ever been in my life whereas now people might look at me and think that my physique isn't goals or I hate that yeah me too um or if it's I don't know people might judge it in one way or the other I get comments online saying oh but you've got the perfect physique and other people literally the comment right underneath it really nasty comments and I'm thinking so you can see the both best of both worlds and

i think i would just yeah just care less and live in your body rather than living like for it trying to make it this perfect specimen that never that has no blemishes no scars rolls cellulite nothing like that because that's not human we spend so long and then we get so paranoid that we're going to age wrinkles i can't have those i can't show that picture online can't post that on facebook can't send that to grandma because my arms don't look right or something like that um just don't care so much so your grandma's not gonna care no but i remember but i remember so many times like you know you take a group selfie and everyone like looks at it and they zoom in what they look like yeah like oh god i can't post that because that piece of post that me

and i just go whatever you're like oh are you happy with that i'm like oh whatever if my eyes are shut my eyes are shut which mine are the other times they are might make the photo better my eyes are shut to be honest no honestly I love the content you post and um you know I think keep doing what you're doing and I can't wait to see you at the finish are gonna have croissants at the finish line and Paris marathon I'm just like I just have this vision of us going you know London is the last like long as it's all preaching there's people in the stands I have visions of people like throwing croissants croissants

and baguettes at you as you're like crying over the finish line it's not going to happen someone gave me a beer in London so you never know

someone dressed as Saint George handed me a pint I love that maybe someone dressed as an Eiffel Tower will give you a croissant I think I'd actually

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