Global News Podcast - Afghans moved to UK in secret scheme after data breach
Episode Date: July 16, 2025UK government apologises to thousands of Afghans potentially at risk from Taliban after personal details leaked. Also: Trump says Ukraine shouldn’t target Moscow, and 114-year-old marathon runner di...es after car accident.
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I'm Janet Jalil and in the early hours of Wednesday the 16th of July these are our main
stories. The British government has apologised to thousands of Afghans at risk from the Taliban
whose personal details were leaked online. The authorities in Lebanon say that 12 people
have been killed by
Israeli airstrikes, the deadliest day since the ceasefire between Israel and
Hezbollah came into effect last year. President Trump joins big oil and tech
bosses to unveil a 90 billion dollar plan to invest in AI and energy.
Also in this podcast, for those planning to dip their feet in the
Mediterranean this summer be sure to put your sandals back on promptly if you're
in Portofino. Italian officials in the glamorous town of Portofino have banned
picnics, alcohol and being barefoot in public to try to deter unruly tourists.
to try to deter unruly tourists.
It was a simple mistake, but one that put the lives of thousands of Afghans in danger and has ended up costing Britain more than a billion dollars.
Three and a half years ago, just months after the Taliban had seized Kabul, a British defence
official accidentally disclosed the names and details of close to 20,000 Afghans
who were at risk of reprisals.
The leak was only discovered the following year when it was posted on Facebook with a
threat to disclose the entire database.
That led to the British government setting up a secret scheme to relocate thousands of
Afghans to the UK.
Meanwhile, for the past two years a court order has prohibited
the reporting of this information. That changed on Tuesday when a judge ordered that it be
made public. Here's our security correspondent Frank Gardner.
When the Taliban seized back control of Afghanistan four years ago, amid those chaotic evacuation
scenes at Kabul airport, thousands of Afghan soldiers and their families
were left behind. Many had worked with British forces and so were at risk of reprisal by
the victorious Taliban. Britain set up a scheme to bring vulnerable Afghans to safety in Britain.
But in February 2022, six months after the Taliban had taken over, an M.O.D. official
inadvertently leaked a spreadsheet
with thousands of Afghan names and personal details into the public domain.
This so-called unauthorized data breach was not discovered until the following year, when
the government then got a superinjunction imposed to keep the leak secret.
That superinjunction has finally been lifted, and the defence secretary, John Healy, offered
his sincere apologies.
This was a serious departmental error. It was in clear breach of strict data protection protocols
and it was one of many data losses relating to the ARAP scheme during this period.
Thousands of Afghans have already been brought to Britain, but a further two and a half thousand remain in Afghanistan, waiting to come out. The MOD points out that this major data breach occurred
under the previous government. But that will be little consolation to those Afghans who
have only just been told about this leak and will now have concerns about their safety.
Thank God. Well, the government has declined to say how many Afghans may have been arrested
or killed as a result of this breach. We spoke to one man who asked that we don't give out
his name as he fears for his family back in Afghanistan. He worked for British forces
in Afghanistan and a month after the Taliban seized power back in 2021, he was relocated
to Britain for his safety. What did he think when he found out about this latest development?
It's a huge psychological harm. You know the anxiety, the fear even right now as I speak with you,
you know, like the distress it has been causing us because I'm not sure what's going to happen in the next few days.
I don't know if something has happened already. I don't know if my family members have already been targeted, if they know if the Taliban have received information
about me and my family members. So it's a huge psychological toll. You know, it makes
me very, very fearful of the future for me here in the UK, and also for the safety of
my family members back home.
But just to be clear, I mean, I assume that because this was a list sent out at the beginning
of 2022 and you had already arrived by then, that your name would not have been on that
list. What makes you think that it might have been, or indeed that members of your family
might have been on that list?
Or are you saying you simply don't know?
I don't really know for sure what is in that list and what has been breached.
If my name happens to be on that list because the data we have received, the information we received,
anybody who has come here before or applied to the process before January 2022 might be affected by
it. And I had applied in 2021. And now I have received another email a few hours ago where
there's a tracker. You can check your name if you were affected. It tells me that I was affected,
unfortunately. So it means if it is a simple list of my name, it would identify me as this person has gone to the UK.
I mean, I don't know what kind of information they had,
but with my application, I have provided the British government
not only my personal information, information of my family members,
my wife and children, information of my family members in Afghanistan,
brothers and sisters, and
where I worked, why I thought I was eligible for this programme, everything. So I don't
know how much information has been shared in that list.
You've clearly still got family members in Afghanistan. How are you hearing from them?
I mean, what are they saying to you about their concerns? They have always been very concerned.
In fact, they move places from one province to another
just to blend in and just make sure that they disappear
from where they used to live before.
Those were the things that they've been doing over the past few years
just to make sure they are not targeted.
Honestly, since this morning,
I haven't spoken to any of them and I just could not tell them how this was coming because I just
didn't know how to bring the news to them and how to tell them and what to tell them. And also,
I'm being careful not to make calls because in that email it instructed us not to make calls
or be careful at least when making calls.
So I'm pretty sure they will be very worried to hear about this now.
One of the Afghans who worked alongside British forces in Afghanistan and whose identity we
aren't revealing talking to Tim Franks.
The authorities in Lebanon say that 12 people have been killed by Israeli airstrikes in
the deadliest day of such attacks since
a ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah came into effect last year. A Syrian
family of five is reported to be among the dead. Israel said it was targeting
Hezbollah weapons storage and training sites in Lebanon's eastern Beqa Valley.
Our Middle East regional editor is Mike Thompson. The Becca Valley has long been a Hezbollah stronghold and as you say this is a place
that Israel says they were storing weapons and indeed they were training fighters, they
had training bases there. This was, yes, one of the deadliest attacks. There's been many
attacks Israel have launched against Hezbollah positions, mainly in southern
Lebanon, which they say don't comply with the ceasefire deal. And Hezbollah has called
these strikes a major escalation.
And this has been going on repeatedly, as you say. So for the Lebanese, this is compounding
the trauma that they felt during that war between Israel and Hezbollah. Indeed, you know, we had the ceasefire in November and yet these strikes have continued.
Now Israel has said all along we will continue attacking Hezbollah positions which we believe
shouldn't be there and don't comply with the ceasefire. Now the Lebanese government and
Hezbollah has said this is a flagrant abuse, a violation of the ceasefire but it carries on. Hezbollah may be calling this an
escalation but it's not really in a position to do very much given the way
that its leadership was decapitated by Israel. Yes it's been severely weakened
but it looks like one of the concerns Israel still had apart from these
isolated positions we just talked about that they've been striking is this elite Radwan commando force, that's Hezbollah's Radwan command force and that
was the unit running these bases that were struck today and Israel's defence minister
have said these strikes should give a clear message to Hezbollah not to rebuild their
forces. They want them to stay obviously in
this weakened position.
Mike Thompson. Donald Trump has said Ukraine should not attack Moscow after a newspaper
said he discussed the possibility during a call with President Zelensky. The Financial
Times reported that the US president has asked whether his Ukrainian counterpart could strike
the Russian capital. But speaking outside the White House, Mr Trump dismissed the idea and said he had
no plans to give Ukraine long-range missiles. On Monday, Mr Trump announced new weapon sales
to Kiev and threatened Russia with steep tariffs unless it signs a ceasefire within 50 days.
Our Russia editor Steve Rosenberg reports from Moscow.
One Russian newspaper recalled the Roman politician Brutus but replaced his name with America's
president. The headline, et tu Trump? Russia feels let down by Donald Trump, by his announcement
of new weapons shipments to Ukraine and by his threats of severe tariffs on Russian exports.
The Kremlin complained that such decisions were a signal to Kiev to continue the war,
though it made no mention of the fact that it was Russia that launched the full-scale
invasion of Ukraine.
Recently, President Trump has been mentioning quite a lot that he's not happy with President
Putin for failing to end the war.
Are you done with him? I mean, I know that sounds a simplistic thing.
No, I'm not done, but I'm disappointed in him. But I'm not done with him, but I'm disappointed in him.
Do you trust him?
I trust almost nobody, to be honest with you.
In the review BBC, on a Kremlin conference call later, I asked Vladimir Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov
to comment on that phrase.
Disappointed but not done with.
He declined to.
President Trump has no monopoly on disappointment.
The Kremlin will surely be disappointed that after six months it has apparently failed to convince America's president to accept Russia's
arguments on Ukraine or Russia's conditions for ending the war. But
there's no sign yet that Vladimir Putin has given up on Donald Trump. The Kremlin
knows that America's leader is driven less by ideology and more by the urge to do deals.
Which is why, almost certainly, the Kremlin and the White House will continue to talk.
Steve Rosenberg. For decades, the city of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, was America's steel
capital churning out the beams and girders that formed the backbone of its skyscrapers,
bridges and railroads. But on Tuesday, Donald Trump joined executives from some of the largest US
tech and energy companies to recast this rust belt city as a haven for
artificial intelligence, announcing a 90 billion dollar investment in AI and the
energy needed to power it.
We're here today because we believe that America's destiny is to dominate every industry and be the first in every technology.
And that includes being the world's number one superpower in artificial intelligence.
And we are way ahead of China, I have to say. We're way ahead of China.
The plants are starting up, the construction is starting up.
Well, Pennsylvania also happens to be a key battleground state that was crucial to Mr Trump's election victory last year.
I asked our North America correspondent Peter Bose who was funding this huge investment in AI and what they're hoping to build.
Well, it is huge. The largest package of investments in the history of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, according to Donald Trump, 20 leading technology
and energy companies are involved in this $92 billion, to be precise, in terms of investment.
The common goal being to fund America's expansion of artificial intelligence.
They include Google, $28 billion investing in AI infrastructure projects, as well as hydro plant upgrades.
Energy is hugely important for this.
More generally, there'll be construction of large-scale data centres,
some of which will be used for training purposes.
And of course, at the heart of all of this is AI supremacy.
Technical leadership, global influence,
the military advantages that could come with
this, the economic power that can be derived from AI, which if successful has huge potential
to add trillions of dollars to this country's GDP.
Yes, but there could also be a huge drain on energy reserves and that's why these energy
companies are involved.
Yes, that's why there's so much emphasis on the energy infrastructure, the energy, the cooling
infrastructure that's needed for large-scale AI computing. That's where a
lot of the money is going. AI is very power hungry, electricity hungry as a
business and certainly it is needed electricity to fuel the data centers
where much of the other investment will be.
And you mentioned the political significance of the location of this announcement.
We're told that it will create tens of thousands of jobs.
It will, according to local officials' position,
the state is a leading hub for energy, for artificial intelligence, innovation,
which, and this reflects what you said a moment ago, it really changes the face of industry, puts it into the
future for a state that some might see as being locked in the past in terms of the
kinds of industries that have been there. Peter Bowe's. It's pretty common for
governments to warn about tough choices to deal with budget deficits and growing
debt piles. Normally the choices seem to involve tax rises and public spending cuts.
That's certainly part of the strong medicine that was proposed on Tuesday by France's Prime Minister,
Francois Bayrou, but he also said he wants to scrap two national holidays.
This is a country which takes its holidays very seriously. Tim Franks spoke to our Paris correspondent Hugh Schofield
and asked him how the proposal had gone down.
Like lead balloons basically, the short answer to that.
They have tried before in France to get rid of a national holiday
about 20 years ago now, but it didn't succeed. There was a backlash.
Even the kind of left-wing unions who are not at all Christian
said no, this week Monday they were Catholic. Holiday is something which we hold dear, and it's workers
have held dear for a century or whatever. So you can't do it. So it's not something that's
going to go down easily. Now he's suggesting two more holidays, Easter Monday. And he says,
there's no reason why that should be a holiday. I mean, nothing happened in the Bible on the
Monday and the May the 8th, which I think there is a logic to because, you know, that's the day that marks the end of the Second
World War. But that memory is fading. But I still think it's going to go down like a
lead balloon and people aren't going to buy it.
And you mentioned opposition from the left, also presumably opposition from the right.
Well, I mean, the first opposition is from the populist right in the National Rally
Party, Marine Le Pen's lot. And they have said straight away this is an attack on French history, on French roots, on French workers,
and if it comes to a vote in parliament on this, and that's the whole idea, this is going to be
part of the budget that's put forward after the summer holidays, they will vote a motion of censure,
in other words, try to bring the government down. They mean it, I think. But just in terms of the hole in which the Prime Minister says France finds itself, I
mean, it is deep and dark, isn't it?
Well it is. And from the start of this speech, which is Bill's, it's a very, very important
speech today, setting out the budget for September. We had exactly the same thing last year, but
now the situation is even worse because every year the debt gets higher.
It's now $3,300 billion.
There hasn't been a balanced budget in France for 50 years.
I mean, his message is the chickens are coming home to roost.
We always talk about over indebtedness and how countries can go under when this happens.
Well, it's getting nearer the stage where that's going to happen.
And on top of the 40 billion,
which he wants to shave off the budget this year,
there's now the extra four or five billion
that President Macron has said has to be found.
For the other great priority,
the Army and the Navy and the Air Force and defense,
the straits are indeed dire.
And what Beirut is saying is that we have to contemplate
these things like removing holidays,
like having a complete freeze on all pensions,
on all welfare payments next year so that there is in effect a decrease compared to
inflation on having a complete freeze on state spending next year. All these are measures
which many accounts would say were perfectly sensible, but I see there was a red rag which
the left and the hard right are going to oppose just by instinct.
And I see Beirut as someone who knows all this, but feels ironically liberated by his
dire political predicament to say what he really wants.
There's no attempt to sort of compromise him.
This initial budget plan is one that is extremely bold, extremely daring, and were it ever to
be enacted, would probably make a big difference to the finances.
But I think its chances of being adopted are very small.
He's Gofield in Paris.
Still to come, Forja Singh was born in Punjab in 1911.
He took up running to deal with the grief of losing his wife.
He became a global icon in the running world.
A 114-year-old man believed to have been the world's oldest marathon runner has died after
being hit by a car.
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months old, have been found. Our Asia Pacific editor, Miki Bristo, reports.
The police say the gang operated in several locations across Indonesia. Those arrested
had different jobs. Some found the babies or looked after them. Others prepared fake
documents used to smuggle the children to Singapore,
and perhaps elsewhere, where they were sold. The police believe the gang bought most of
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been abducted. Two dozen infants could have already been traded.
Miki Bristow, now they are two remote archipelagos, one part of Scotland, the Shetland Islands, and
the other an autonomous territory in Denmark, the Faroe Islands.
Officials in Shetland are hoping to follow the example of the Faroes in replacing an
aging ferry fleet with a network of undersea tunnels connecting their islands.
The Faroes have more than 20 tunnels linking its islands.
Residents say they've transformed
their lives as they can now travel at any time without worrying about sea conditions.
From Shetland, our Scotland editor, James Cook reports.
I've come to Skaw Beach, which according to the sign here is the most northerly point of the National Cycle Route,
1695 miles from Dover.
And we've come here to speak to Elizabeth Johnson from the Saxa Vord spaceport which
is being built just across the beautiful bay from here where they're hoping to launch
rockets within the year. The economic activity needs connectivity and at the moment we have a very system that's
been in place since the 70s and demand exceeds capacity on a daily basis now.
We need to be able to move when we want and if we want.
And does that mean tunnels?
That means tunnels for us.
We need tunnels.
Shetland produces a quarter of the UK's salmon,
the country's biggest food export,
but the industry worries about slipping behind
its competitors.
Anne Anderson is the Head of Sustainability and Development
at Scottish Sea Farms,
one of the nation's biggest salmon producers,
which employs 700 people.
I think 10 years ago, Scottish salmon used to have 10% of the global market.
Nowadays we're slipping ever closer to 5%
and that gives you a scale of the difference that's happened,
a missed opportunity.
And does this country then, and do these islands,
need better infrastructure urgently?
Yes, would be a very short and simple answer to that one.
Nearly 200 miles further out into the Atlantic towards Iceland, there is an answer.
The Faroe Islands have been building tunnels since the 1960s.
They now have 23, including four under the ocean, boosting growth, says the Prime Minister Axel
Johansson.
I think we have learned in the Faroe Islands that investments in infrastructure is a good
investment both for the welfare of the people, but also for the growth when it comes to the
population and also economy.
What advice would you give to Shetland?
I would recommend tunnels for them.
Driving through these tunnels I'm really struck by the scale of what they've built here.
This one alone is nearly seven miles long and deep beneath the water.
They even have the world's first undersea roundabout.
Andy Sloan is the UK Managing Director of Covey, an engineering firm that specialises
in designing tunnels and is now advising Shetland Islands Council. So why are the Pharaohs so
far ahead of Shetland?
From my perspective, it's about ambition. Theoese set out with a huge ambition and they have led the world
really at connecting an archipelago in the middle of the North Atlantic through blood,
sweat and tears and focus. And quite frankly, it can be repeated in Shetland and not just
Shetland possibly elsewhere in Scotland.
But when? In Shetland, they've been talking about replacing ferries for nearly 20 years. The council leader Emma MacDonald says she now thinks it will
happen. I think tunnels could be incredibly transformational and as a
council you know we want what's best for our island we want Shetland to be
sustainable and we're really excited about the opportunity that this gives
us. I think tunnels could absolutely be the answer. A decision on whether to proceed could be taken as soon as next year. The Faroe Islanders
built their tunnels with private finance, which they're paying back through tolls. That's
the most likely funding model for Shetland too, although there is not yet an estimated
cost. In the meantime, many Shetlanders are eyeing the Faroese with envy.
James Cook reporting. A man believed to be the world's oldest marathon runner has died in a hit-and-run incident at the age of 114.
Forja Singh, who is nicknamed the Turban Tornado, was killed as he was walking near the village where he'd grown up in northern India.
He'd lived in London since 1992 and only started marathon
running at the age of 89. Aruna Iyengar reports.
Forja Singh was born in Punjab in 1911 but moved to East London to live with his son
in his 80s. He took up running to deal with the grief of losing his wife. He became a
global icon in the running world. He broke records in multiple age categories.
It all started at the London Marathon in 2000, where he knocked 58 minutes off the previous
record for the over 90s.
This was Forja Singh crossing the finishing line at the Toronto Waterfront Marathon in
2011 at the age of 100. His long-time coach, Armandar Singh,
speaking at the time, said the performance was phenomenal.
They did all the tests for him, gave it to a group of doctors and said,
how old is this chap? And they thought he was 40.
In 2012, the centenarian Sikh became a torchbearer for the London Olympics,
parading the fire through Newham High Street to a cheering
local crowd.
In his final 10k race in Hong Kong in 2013, he was asked if he was happy with his time.
He said, oh no, actually I was expecting to run much faster.
Today, the Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi paid tribute to the turbaned tornado as he was known, saying he'd been an exceptional athlete with incredible determination.
Mr Singh's London-based running club, Six in the City, said on social media that all
their events into next year would be dedicated to him.
Aruna Iyengar.
And finally, let's go to Italy.
The picturesque coastal town of Portofino, known for its pastel-coloured houses and luxury boutiques, has issued a long list of banned activities, as it grapples with huge numbers of tourists.
Those flouting the rules could be fined up to 500 euros, Will Leonardo reports.
For those planning to dip their feet in the Mediterranean this summer,
be sure to put your sandals back on promptly if you're in Portofino.
Town officials bothered by uncouth tourists are threatening hefty fines
for anyone found walking barefoot or bare-chested,
having a picnic or drinking alcohol in public.
Portofino says it wants to ensure peace and quiet for its few hundred well-heeled residents,
who as elsewhere in Italy appear to be finding the country's massive international popularity a tad tiresome.
But the push towards genteel respectability has also targeted those without means. Begging
or just sitting or lying on the streets will also now incur a fine.
Will Leonardo.
And that's all from us for now, but there will be a new edition of the Global News Podcast
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This edition was mixed by Carol Ann Driscoll. The producers were Liam McShaffrey and Arien
Kochi. The editor is Karen Martin. I'm Janette Jalil. Until next time, goodbye.
