Global News Podcast - Four killed in school shooting in US state of Oregon

Episode Date: October 16, 2026

A 16-year-old has shot dead three children and a teacher at Silver Rail Elementary School in Bend, in the US state of Oregon. The gunman was shot dead by a member of the public. Also: Britain's defenc...e secretary says he's been reassured by the US that Starlink satellite services used by Ukraine’s military have been restored. In Yemen, the presidential palace and seat of the government in the port city of Aden has been attacked by Houthi rebels. Venezuela's ousted President Nicolas Maduro pleads not guilty to conspiracy to torture in a New York court. The Fifa president, Gianni Infantino, apologizes to the organisation's council for his plan to sell stakes in the World Cup. We hear from people with sight loss that say smart glasses are a 'game changer'; and a 99-year-old becomes the world's oldest wing walker.The Global News Podcast brings you the breaking news you need to hear, as it happens. Listen for the latest headlines and current affairs from around the world. Politics, economics, climate, business, technology, health – we cover it all with expert analysis and insight. Get the news that matters, delivered twice a day on weekdays and daily at weekends, plus special bonus episodes reacting to urgent breaking stories. Follow or subscribe now and never miss a moment. Get in touch: globalpodcast@bbc.co.uk Photo: Emergency personnel at the scene of the shooting at Silver Rail Elementary School in Bend, Oregon, 15th October. Credit: Reuters

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Starting point is 00:00:23 This week on the interface, we tackle the question of, does AI feel pain? The AI was describing the pain that it was. in it said, the signal is a whisper, a tremor in the marrow of my being. Listen, I was an emo kid in the 2000s, too. This is not that novel. It does, yeah. It sort of sounds like cure lyrics, you know. Plus, does anything actually go viral anymore? It's actually kind of blowing my mind.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Join me, Jess Maddox. And me, Thomas Germain, for the interface. Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcast. This is the global news podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Alex Ritson, and in the early hours of Friday the 16th of October, these are our main stories. At least three children have been killed in a school shooting in the US state of Oregon. Britain's Defence Secretary says he's been reassured by the US that Starlink satellite services used by Ukraine's military have been restored. And Houthi rebels strike at the heart of Yemen's government, the presidential palace in Aden.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Also in this podcast, Venezuela's ousted president Nicholas Maduro pleads not guilty to conspiracy to torture in a New York court. And yesterday we published a new line on a new garbage truck and there were several drivers who were there to enjoy the festive revelation. A Dutch city gets international recognition for its tradition of printing poetry on rubbish trucks. People in the US are absorbing the news of a number. another school shooting. An attacker opened fire at a primary school in the city of Bend in the state of Oregon,
Starting point is 00:02:06 killing three children and a teacher. The youngest child was just five years old. The gunman, a 16-year-old, was shot dead by a member of the public. The Bend chief of police, Mike Krantz, was asked how the attacker got into the classrooms. From what the initial investigation is showing, is the shooter had forced their way into the school by shooting at locked doors. The local school superintendent Steve Cook called it an unthinkable tragedy. We are heartbroken. We are horrified. This is the kind of thing you hear about in other places and pray that it never happens here. And it has happened here.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Today it happened to our children, to our teachers, and to our families. To the families that have had loss tonight, we are with you and we will stay with you. to our staff who helped our students and protected our kids today, we thank you. You did what no one should ever be asked to do. I am so grateful beyond words for your efforts. Schools Superintendent Steve Cook, our North America correspondent, Shima Khalil, told us what else the authorities had been saying. Police have now confirmed that the suspect was a 16-year-old from Bent, from the community. they also say that everyone at the school has been evacuated, taken by bus, to a nearby church,
Starting point is 00:03:33 where the families are still being reunited. We do not know who killed the gunman. They also did not say who the gunman was, what his relationship with the school is or was. We do know that the first call was received one minute before 1 o'clock in the afternoon local time, and that was a person in a vehicle calling 911, reporting being shot at at multiple times by someone carrying a long gun. This is how they described the gun. They did not elaborate on what kind of gun, how many bullets were fired, but as you've heard there, that the gunman then went on to the inside the school, shooting through locked doors and
Starting point is 00:04:16 opening fire. We then understand that someone followed him into the school, pursued him, and shot him. As it stands, three children aged five, eight, eleven, and a teacher were killed at Silver Rail Elementary School, and we know that a seven-year-old child and a teacher are critically injured and have been taken to a local hospital. We are expecting another media conference anticipated tomorrow afternoon local time, but we do know that, unsurprisingly, all school activities have been suspended. There's going to be a vigil.
Starting point is 00:04:50 There are going to be support groups for the community, but we also know that the Ben Police are leading this investigation supported by FBI, FBI forces and that there's going to be a large police presence in the school for several days. And you could hear it in the voice of the governor, the mayor, the superintendent, how shocked and emotional they are because, you know, they always say, you do not expect this to happen to you. And then it happens to you. It happens in your community. The number of times we've heard that from different officials in different communities. This is the 149 shooting in a school shooting in the United States so far just this year.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Yeah, you don't expect it to happen to you. You particularly don't expect it to happen in a primary school. That's right. And I think the fact that this is an elementary school is going to weigh heavy. These are tiny children. And, you know, from the casualties so far, a 5-year-old, an 8-year-old, an 11-year-old killed, a seven-year-old critically injured. And you could also hear it from shocked parents' voices
Starting point is 00:06:02 that have spoken to local media and our partners, CBS. The fact that they say, we just don't believe that this is happening. And, of course, many questions are going to be asked, why it happened, how this 16-year-old got their hands on a long gun, what kind of long gun, what is the motive? But yet again, prepare for the two words, gun control, prepare for the political argument around all of this. The question is, why does this keep happening again? And it has a lot to do with how people can get their hands on a gun in the United
Starting point is 00:06:40 States, how vulnerable schools are, school children are, especially as in this case, young school children. For three days, Ukraine's president, Volodymy Zelensky, stuck by President Trump's request not to attack Russian oil refineries, despite continuing Russian attacks on Ukraine's energy infrastructure. But Mr Zelensky's patience seems to have run out. Angered by the US appearing to withdraw key elements of its support, including access to the Starlink satellite system and intelligence sharing, Ukraine attacked one of Russia's biggest oil refineries south of Moscow on Thursday. Ukraine's access to Starlink is now restored, as the British Defence Secretary, Wes Streeting confirmed after talks with his US counterpart Pete Hegeseth.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Unsurprisingly, we did discuss Starlink. It's not yet clear to us in the UK what happened, why the service interruption occurred. But I am reassured and was reassured directly by Secretary Hegeseth that the service has been restored. Our correspondent Joe Inwood has more. If there was ever any doubt the energy ceasefire is over. In truth, the proposal which neither Ukraine nor Russia say they knew anything about only ever existed on Donald Trump's social media post. Moscow continued to attack Ukrainian targets.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Ukraine, in a more difficult diplomatic position, said they would stick to it until today. How much longer will you maintain the stoppage of attacks on Russian refineries? That's it. Block is out. I sent to my military people after they again killed. After such massive attack, I didn't hear messages from President of the United States. Unsurprisingly, there was a very different interpretation from Russia's president. They made the first step. We responded by striking energy facilities,
Starting point is 00:08:35 which they are now squealing about, as well as data centers and so on. They should have thought properly about the consequences. It's not only power plants and data sentence where the fighting has spread. In recent weeks, a number of cargo ships in the Black Sea have been surprised. struck by drones. Speaking at a NATO meeting, Romania's president said it was part of a wider Russian strategy. Not only against Romania and Bulgaria, but against European countries, especially those on the eastern flank, to destabilize societies and to reduce support for Ukraine. And our response is, we continue to support Ukraine. President Zelensky has also been on his
Starting point is 00:09:13 travels. There is no doubting the support Ukraine still has in Europe, but the challenge is getting the US back on side, and the ability of his allies to influence Donald Trump is not what it once was. Joe, inward reporting. The Houthis in Yemen have attacked the presidential palace in the port city of Aden, the seat of the internationally recognised government that the Houthis have been fighting for years to overthrow. The Iran-backed movement says the palace was being used as an operation centre commanded by its Saudi officers. Saudi Arabia supports the Yemeni government. Two people were killed in the attack. The BBC's senior international correspondent Ola Geren is in the city of Aden and sent this report. We have some information now, although this is still preliminary, but we have
Starting point is 00:10:02 been told by the information minister, Muamur al-Aryani, that five ballistic missiles struck the Al-Ma-Ashik Palace, which, as you mention, is the seat of the internationally recognised government. Now, safe to assume that the target was members of the government, but we have been told that the Prime Minister himself is unhurt and that other members of the government are unhurt. Two security personnel have been killed and were told that there were many injuries at the scene. Now, there has been no statement of responsibility yet,
Starting point is 00:10:39 but certainly all suspicion will fall on the Houthi rebel movement in the north of the country. they control the capital Sana'a. They have been engaged in a civil war against the government since 2014. That war had calmed down to an extent with a ceasefire in 2022, but in September we saw it flare up again
Starting point is 00:11:01 with the Houthis making dramatic advances along the West Sea coast. And since then, we have seen the Houthis spreading their attacks to Saudi Arabia using ballistic missiles there too. And just last weekend, carrying out a series of deadly attacks on the international airport in Riyadh. So they will be assumed to be the people behind this attack.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Ola Geren in Yemen. People suffering from sight loss say they're being unfairly excluded from public spaces because of a stigma surrounding smart glasses. Visually impaired users have described the technology, which can be used to record video, as game-changing. They can help with everyday tasks like navigating, public transport or reading street signs. However, controversy about secret filming has seen them labelled pervert glasses
Starting point is 00:11:53 and led to bans or restrictions in some pubs, theatres and entertainment venues. People on both sides of the debate have contacted BBC Your Voice as Stephen Godden reports. Hey, Meta, are there any potholes in front of me? There is an area of damaged pavement directly in front of you. Please step carefully as you continue forward. Fraser Fleming began losing his sight in his early 20s. He uses smart glasses to help him navigate Glasgow City Centre. So what are you asking the glasses here?
Starting point is 00:12:24 Hey, Meta, is there a lot of people in front of me? Yes, there are people walking around you. Just a moment, I'll describe them more. Fraser doesn't rely on what the glasses are telling him, but they help him build a more complete picture of his surroundings. Can you describe this building to me? The building in front of you is a large multi-story structure with distinct art deco styling.
Starting point is 00:12:44 There have, though, been downsides to the rise in popularity of smart glasses. People have taken on the term of calling them perverterglasses. The perception and sometimes the reality that people are using them to secretly film others has created problems. Quite a lot of people are confronting people that are wearing the metal glasses for wearing them for recording public or even just coming up and asking them if they're recording in public because I've got enough to worry about when I'm trying to get from A to B. So what that means is the stigma means you don't get the benefit at certain things.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Yeah, you adapt your usage to chai and reduce confrontation. Meta say a light on the frames makes it clear when the smart glasses are recording. The company warns users not to engage in harmful activities, but some venues have banned or at least restricted their use. One event to tighten its rules is Comic-Con Scotland being held in Edinburgh later this month. As a result, visually impaired fan Gordon Brown says he won't be going. Even if I was there and put my glasses on quickly just to read a sign or something, I wouldn't feel comfortable.
Starting point is 00:13:49 And I think it's a matter of principle now, the fact that they're not willing to engage. Announcing the ban in July, organisers' monopoly events said it was based on feedback from performers and attendees. A cosplay artist who shares her performances online, Tea Pern was filmed unknowingly at a Comic-Con. Are you single? Make sure she's dressed like that. She believes her experience shows why restrictions are needed. I felt violated. I think why couldn't you ask me first?
Starting point is 00:14:21 Because if he had asked me, I would have let him record the interaction. But he was purposely trying to provoke me or purposely trying to make strange comments to get a reaction out with me so that he could get that perfect clip so that he could post on social media and capitalize off of it. Read me the menu. Meal comes with chips and a drink. This conversation about the year. use of smart glasses is playing catch-up with the technology. Fraser wants to ensure the voices of visually impaired people aren't drowned out. Stephen Godden. Still to come in this podcast.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I wasn't frightened because I was so excited and maybe the adrenaline mixing with something else. I don't know. Meet the woman who has set a new Guinness World Record for wing walking at the age of 99. Growing businesses deal with the same problem, too many tools, too much back and forth and not enough time. Odu helps bring it all together. It's an all-in-one business management platform, fully integrated from sales and accounting to inventory and marketing, so your team can spend less time chasing information and focus on growth. Whether you're in retail, manufacturing or service, Odo gives you one place to manage your business. Visit Odo.com to book a demo. It's O'DO.O.com.
Starting point is 00:15:51 This week on the interface, we tackle the question of, does AI feel pain? The AI was describing the pain that it was in. It said, The signal is a whisper, a tremor in the marrow of my being. Listen, I was an emo kid in the 2000s, too. This is not that novel. It does, yeah. It sort of sounds like cure lyrics, you know. Plus, does anything actually go viral anymore? It's actually kind of blowing my mind. Join me, Jess Maddox.
Starting point is 00:16:16 And me, Thomas Jermaine, for the interface. Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcast. This is the Global News podcast. The former Venezuelan president, Nicholas Maduro, and his wife, both entered pleas of not guilty to new charges of conspiracy to commit torture when they appeared in court in New York on Thursday. The couple have also pleaded not guilty to previous charges of narco-terrorism, drug trafficking and weapons-related offenses.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Our North America correspondent Ned Atorfic, has been following the case. This was a short court proceeding, a chance for the former Venezuelan president and his wife to enter a plea to the new charges against them. Now, prosecutors last week added to the narco-terrorism
Starting point is 00:17:04 and drug trafficking charges they faced by also accusing them of personally signing off on a system of repression and torture to silence dissent. And they also accused them of torturing three Americans. So when Nicholas Maduro was asked how he pleaded, He took that opportunity to launch into a criticism of the formal charges against him. He called the testimony against him false and the accusations against him false,
Starting point is 00:17:31 and he said that he rejected the document in its entirety. The judge at that point cut him off and said that a plea of not guilty would be entered on his behalf. When it was Celia Flores' turn, she said that she was completely innocent and not guilty. The pair who were shackled at the feet wearing tan prison uniforms consulted with their lawyers and looked forward throughout the hearing as both sides discussed how the schedule would play out before their trial. Their trial has now been pushed back to June 14th. And the pair continued to argue that the charges against them should be dropped entirely because they are protected by head of state immunity. That is an issue that will still be decided by the judge at a later date. Ned Atorfic in New York.
Starting point is 00:18:22 The FIFA President Gianni Infantino has apologized to the organisation's council for his plan to sell stakes in the World Cup. The proposal was aborted after a fierce backlash from football associations. Mr Infantino has been told he's not fit to lead FIFA unless he releases all the documents and answers key questions related to the plan. Our sports editor Dan Rowan filed this report from Zurich where the council meeting is taking place. For the past three months, world football has never been so divided. The emergence of FIFA President Gianni Infantino's failed plan to sell commercial stakes in the World Cup to private investors sparking a global backlash. Today in Zurich came a showdown, Mr Infantino coming face to face with some of his fiercest critics, as FIFA's council met for the first time since the crisis began.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Mr Infantino has declined interview requests from the BBC and other media. Instead, after a three-hour meeting, he issued this statement and did not take questions. I apologised for the mistakes that we made in relation to the communication and consultation process related to the FIFA Forward Enterprise project, which then led to many consequences. but what is important to remember is that it was a proposal, so in no way a done deal. F-A chair Debbie Hewitt had written to Mr Infantino demanding that he released documents about the World Cup's sell-off plan
Starting point is 00:19:55 and told me she was unimpressed. Did you receive the answers that you were hoping for? No, that's my biggest disappointment. I've repeatedly asked for the papers to be shared. What was shared was that, President Infantino had always regretted the fact that he didn't come to counsel. He apologised for that in fact. But for me, if that's what he regrets, he has the opportunity now to put that right
Starting point is 00:20:24 and to share that documentation. You know that we withdrew our letter of support. Nothing has changed my view that we should change that position. A proposal by Mr Infantino to hand out more than two and a half billion pounds from FIFA's financial reserves for football development was approved. It's little wonder then that despite so much controversy, he retained significant support around the world. And with just a month now until a deadline for candidates
Starting point is 00:20:49 for next year's presidential election to confirm they are standing, Mr Infantino looks set to stand unopposed for a fourth term. Dan Rowan in Zurich, Switzerland. Now onto the site of a prehistoric murder mystery. Archaeologists have found evidence that could suggest Neanderthals experienced more violence while simultaneously demonstrating greater capacity for nurturing behavior than previously understood. And Neanderthal's remains were found in a cave in Iraqi Kurdistan and show a small hole in one shoulder blade. They say this could be the earliest evidence of lethal violence involving a sharpened wooden spear and the first of its kind in the prehistoric Middle East.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Our science correspondent Palat Ghosh unearth the details. From the angle of the wound, the researchers believe the spear entered the person's chest, passed through the body, probably damaging a lung and major blood vessels, and exited through the left shoulder blade. The wounded Neanderthal lived around 75,000 years ago, and their left shoulder blade, their right hand, three ribs and some of their teeth were unearthed in a cave in Iraqi Kurdistan. A round hole in the shoulder blade may be the earliest evidence
Starting point is 00:22:03 of what the lead researcher Dr Emma Pomeroy of the University of Cambridge describes as lethal interpersonal violence using a wooden spear. What's remarkable is that they seem to have had a major injury to their face, which they had survived, but which split one of their teeth. And then they also have what seems to be a stab wound from a wooden spear in their left shoulder, which happened around the time they died. This discovery fits a pattern of an earlier find in the same case. cave in 1957. It was a remains of another Neanderthal who lived more recently, around 50,000 years
Starting point is 00:22:40 ago. Their ribs had evidence of a partly healed wound, which archaeologists believe was probably caused by a stone-tipped spear. Scientists can't tell for sure whether these Neanderthals were hurt by a companion during a hunt or murdered by a fellow Neanderthal, but they join a small but growing discovery of human remains which are pointing to the possibility that human on human violence was more common and goes further back in time than the current scientific consensus would suggest. Pallab Ghosh. For almost 40 years, rubbish trucks in the Dutch city of Rotterdam have been adorned with
Starting point is 00:23:18 lines of poetry. And now the practice has been officially recognised as being part of the Netherlands' intangible cultural heritage. The idea was the brainchild of the Poetry International Festival, as Tim Franks heard from its director, The initiative started in 1988, so it's been a long time, and it was inspired by the Poetry International Festival in Rotterdam, because every year the festival brings poets from all over the world to the city,
Starting point is 00:23:46 where they share their work and introduce audience to different voices. But when the festival ends, the international poets leave Rotterdam and take their poems with them. So the idea behind this project was, what if the poetry could stay, even after the poets have left? But putting them on garbage trucks, It's wonderfully imaginative. It's obviously caught on. But where did that idea come from? Well, actually, in Rotterdam, we have a lot of poetry in the public space. We also have it on buildings and on bridges even.
Starting point is 00:24:14 But at Poetry International, we believe that poetry should not be confined to books or libraries or cultural institutions. By bringing poetry into public space, we and the municipality of Rotterdam make it part of everyday life. And we make it accessible to everyone, including specifically people who might not normally engage with. poetry. It can find you when you walk the dog or take out the trash or simply go about your day. It works very successfully in London because there's poetry on the underground. But there you're a slightly captive space inside an underground train carriage. But on a garbage truck, especially because I guess often they're moving, you've only got a very short amount of time sometimes. So how do you decide what goes on? That's why we choose only one line from a poem. And we also
Starting point is 00:24:59 consider how well a particular line works in the public space. So it needs to be concise and memorable and also powerful enough to touch as many people as possible in just a few seconds. So give me one of your favorites, if you would. Can I cheat and choose two lines? You may. Okay, thank you.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Because then I will choose one line from Simon Armitage, a British poet. And he said, Glitz and Glitter in the air, but blossom neither here or there. It's short, but you can interpret it in very different ways. The other one is a line from Derek Otter, a poet from Rotterdam.
Starting point is 00:25:33 I'm not a translator, but it means something like stones and bricks make a city rise, but it's the people who give it death. It's a people who gives it depth. That's a lovely thought. How do the bin men and bin women feel about all this? Do they like it? Yes, actually, they really do. Because yesterday we published a new line on a new garbage truck,
Starting point is 00:25:56 and there were several drivers who were there to enjoy the festive revelation. They also drive their own trucks, so they also have their own line. What I hear from them is that they really love their line, that it's really a line of their own. The more people can encounter poetry, the better, I think. Diana Shinafort. Now, most of us will be looking forward to putting our feet up if and when we reach our 90s.
Starting point is 00:26:22 But Helga Duffy is having none of that. She was strapped to the wing of a small plane in the UK to set a brand-new Guinness World Record for Wingwall. and at the age of 99, she's the oldest person ever to do the stunt. Wendy Urquhart reports. Helga Duffy had been looking for a challenge, and after she saw news footage of 97-year-old Betty Bramage setting the previous record for wingwalking,
Starting point is 00:26:49 she thought, I could do that, and she did. Afterwards, she told the BBC what it was like to be strapped to the wing of a small plane. To be honest, the feeling was speaking. I wasn't frightened because I was so excited and maybe the adrenaline mixing with something else, I don't know. As Helga took off into the skies over England, strapped to a plane that was just 15 years younger than she is,
Starting point is 00:27:18 her niece Jackie Rose watched in awe from the ground. She says she couldn't be prouder. She's wanted to do something different for so long and I think she just wanted to prove that actually, even though she's 99, she's still that lady that she was like years and years and years ago. I'm so over the moon that she's actually managed to get this done. So proud of her. It's absolutely amazing.
Starting point is 00:27:40 And it's just making me feel so emotional. Well, Helga might not be able to hold on to the title for very long. Betty Bramage sent a message of congratulations, but warned that she'd be taking the title back when she turns 100. Congratulations, I hope you enjoyed it. I've done six now. I can't wait till I'm 100 and do it again and I'll beat you again. Fighting talk there from Betty Bramage ending that report by the relatively young Wendy Urquhart. And that's all from us for now. If you want to get in touch, you can email us at global podcast at bbc.co.com.
Starting point is 00:28:23 You can also find us on X at BBC World Service. Use the hashtag global news. pod. And don't forget our sister podcast, The Global Story, which goes in-depth and beyond the headlines on one big story. This edition of the Global News podcast was mixed by Chris Cusaris, and the producer was Emma Joseph. The editor is Karen Martin. I'm Alex Ritson. Until next time, goodbye. This week on the interface, we tackle the question of, does AI feel pain? The AI was describing the pain that it was in. It said, Signal is a whisper, a tremor in the marrow of my being. Listen, I was an emo kid in the 2000s, too.
Starting point is 00:29:10 This is not that novel. It does, yeah. It sort of sounds like cure lyrics, you know. Plus, does anything actually go viral anymore? It's actually kind of blowing my mind. Join me, Jess Maddox. And me, Thomas Germain, for the interface. Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcast.

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