Global News Podcast - French PM resigns after less than a month

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

In France Sebastien Lecornu resigns as prime minister saying the conditions were not fulfilled for him to carry on. He criticised unwillingness by political parties to reach compromises. Several parties are calling for early elections and some are calling for President Macron to go - although he has always said he will not stand down before his term ends in 2027. Stocks fell sharply on the Paris exchange amid concerns about the political parties' ability to tackle the country's economic problems, especially its massive debt. Also: A Sudanese militia leader has been found guilty of war crimes in the first International Criminal Court verdict on atrocities in Darfur more than twenty years ago, Hamas' chief negotiator has met Egyptian and Qatari mediators ahead of indirect talks with Israeli officials later, and the British author and journalist, Jilly Cooper has died at the age of 88. She gained fame for her romantic novels - the best known of which are her Rutshire Chronicles. One of the books - Rivals was successfully serialised by Disney Plus in 2024.

This is the global news podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Alex Ritson, and at 17 hours GMT on Monday the 6th of October, these are our main stories. France faces more political uncertainty after the fall of its shortest live government. A Sudanese militia leader is convicted of war crimes in the first international criminal court verdict on atrocities in Darfur. And Hamas's chief negotiator meets Egyptian and Qatari media. Ahead of Indirect Talks on Gaza. Also in this podcast, rescuers race to save hundreds of hikers stranded by a blizzard on the slopes of Everest. Where they are, it's on the eastern approach to Everest.

So we're not sort of halfway up the mountain or anything like that. This is a time of year when there isn't supposed to be such heavy snow, so there's uncharacteristically heavy. Another political crisis in France. The Prime Minister Sebastian Leconi has resigned after just three weeks, making his tenure as leader the shortest ever in the modern era. Mr Leconu, an ally of President Macron, stepped down after unveiling a largely unchanged cabinet from that of his predecessor, Francois Beru.

Several parties are now clamoring for early elections, with some calling for Mr Macron to resign too, though he's always said he will not stand down before his term ends in 2027. Sebastian Le Cornu gave this statement in Paris. Being prime minister is a difficult task, he said, probably even more so at the moment, because the conditions are not right. However, for three weeks I've been trying to build the right conditions to pass a budget for France, But working with the opposition, I got the feeling that we were always taking two steps forward and one step back.

Now, Paris correspondent, Hughes Schofield, is following developments. It came out of the blue. I mean, everyone knew he was in an extremely difficult situation, and everyone knew that within a few weeks or months at the most, it was quite likely that he would have to resign because of the logic of Parliament and the difficulty of getting any measure through Parliament. But for him to resign so quickly, and irony of irony, he's just after announcing he, his own government, that was a huge shock. And what seems to have happened is that even as he announced the names yesterday, several of those names were already saying, we don't want to be

part of this. In particular, there's a party, the old Gaulist party, the Republicans Party, which is a sort of strongish force in Parliament, allied to the centre. Their leader, Bruno Retayo, who's been interim minister over the last year or so, having accepted to be part this new government. Suddenly said, well, actually, I don't really want to stay part of this government. And he issued a statement overnight saying that he was calling a meeting of his party to see what their reaction should be. And from that point, the bricks started falling out of this edifice and it all crumbled. So President Macron has now tried three prime ministers. It's not really working, is it? No. And now, of course, there's huge speculation

about what he's going to do now. I mean, can he find another centrist? Sebastian LeCornu was seen as the last resort. He was the ultimate Macron loyalist who would do what the president told him to do, and even he has failed. It seems unlikely that he can find any other centrist figure of any weight to do this task. Could he then turn to the left, possibly? I mean, the socialists are saying, well, hang on a sec. You keep giving centrist's and the right a go. It's our turn to try to form a government. He could do that. It'd be against his instincts. And in any case, the socialist government would be very unlikely to last any longer than these other ones have done. So the logic, it seems to me, determines that he must be certainly

seriously thinking of dissolving Parliament and calling new elections. That I think is what everyone expects at some point soon, though, of course, it might not necessarily be the solution to the problem that he wants. That's what the hard right leader Marine Le Pen is calling for. She'd also like to see President Macron go, though. Yes, that's not her primary call. I dare say she'd be quite happy for that to happen. But I mean, her technical solution for all of this, what she's calling for now is the dissolution of Parliament and early parliamentary elections, because she reckons that she could do very well and come out with a clear majority this time. If you remember at the last election called by Macron in such a disastrous way 15 months ago, she did very, very

well. Her hard right parties did very, very well in the first round, but they were beaten because the left came together to keep them out in the second round. Her calculation is that that kind of left-wing alliance couldn't happen again because people don't believe in it anymore and they can see it was a bit of a cynical move and therefore the hard right would easily win the next elections. Macron knows that too so that's why he's hesitating. Hugh Schofield in Paris. As we record this podcast, preliminary talks are said to have been taking place in Cairo between a Hamas delegation and Egyptian and Qatari mediators ahead of indirect talks with Israeli negotiators. It involves the largest diplomatic representation from

Hamas since the start of the war in Gaza and is the latest push since the armed militant group agreed to parts of President Trump's 20-point plan for peace in the Palestinian Territory. Here's the Palestinian politician Mustafa Barguti. There is a sense of optimism and hope that this would be the end of this terrible war, which has already taken the lives of six. 66,000 Palestinian lives, including 20,000 children. Hamas has already declared their total acceptance of releasing all the Israeli captives together without delay. The three or four major points that could undermine this whole agreement are related to Netanyahu's behavior

because he has destroyed previously several agreements that were almost included with the American side. Meanwhile, reports from Gaza say, Israeli attacks have been continuing. I heard more about the progress of the talks from our global affairs reporter Sebastian Usher. I mean, the immediate thing is about the mechanism of the release of a hostages and the release of the Palestinian prisoners in return for that in exchange for that and how that would work out. I mean, the way that Trump put it was, this will happen in 72 hours. So how that is going to actually be done, the practicalities of it within Gaza to get those hostages together and then to hand them over to Israel. And what the guarantees are of Palestinian prisoners

Zem being released after that is a big deal. But also the withdrawal of Israeli troops. I mean, what we have in the proposal, what we've heard from Netanyahu isn't very clear, certainly not from Hamas's point of view. And the disarmament issue, Hamas doesn't essentially want to disarm unless it has a guarantee that a Palestinian state is coming after that. How much do both sides want a resolution? Both in one sense do. I mean, Hamas, I mean, it was always going to lose militarily, whether it still has anything to be. gained from continuing to fight. There has been a sense that there's some division, perhaps, between those inside guards of a leadership there, who feel there's nothing left to lose

him, might as well carry on fighting. And outside, I mean, we saw that attempt by Israel to kill the mediators, essentially, Khalil al-Haya, the main negotiator in Qatar a few weeks ago. He survived. He is there at the talks leading them. They are more, I think, attuned to the idea that they can put Netanyahu in a difficult position, which they've done, by saying they will release a hostages and then hoping to use that as a way of putting pressure on Israel, on Mr Netanyahu to give them and concede up in conditions that they're concerned about most. But that will sort of happen in a way that we had before this 20-point proposal, which is a ceasefire would come into place, hostages would be released,

and negotiations would then go on in earnest. That's why we seem to be moving towards again. But both sides under huge pressure. Yes. I mean, Hamas is coming under pressure both internationally from its host Qatar, the other Arab mediators, its supporters, but also within Gaza, we're seeing more and more an issue from the Palestinian population there. And Israel, we know, internationally, huge pressure. Many of its Western allies have played cards like recognizing Palestinian statehood to put pressure on the Israeli government to stop this. But also there's internal pressure from a hostage families, from a majority of the Israeli population who want this to be ends if a hostages can be released.

But there is a pressure from the far right who are still in the government who believe that they shouldn't end. but Netanyahu should continue the war. So all these pressures have been pushing, they've been going on for a long time, but we may have reached a point where those pressures begin to tell and both sides feel that this is the moment to come to some kind of agreement, at least about the hostages and Palestinian prisoners. What we've got to hear though, Sebastian, the conditions in the Gaza Strip, what is the latest? Well, the bombardment is still continuing. There are still dozens of Palestinians who are being reported as killed, local hospitals giving a number each day. It's been in the 60s the last couple of days. So that's still a big deal. Mr. Trump had said

that Israel should immediately halt its bombardment. Now, it was a defensive position, I think, that Israel would argue that it's doing now when it carries out these attacks rather than offensive. So it would say it's obeying the letter of what Mr. Trump has said. But in reality, I think the situation for Garzans in Garc's city, the moment, is not very different from how it was last week before this proposal was to have nailed down and Hamas had given its conditional approval. Sebastian Usher. The International Criminal Court has found a former Sudanese militia leader guilty of 31 counts of war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Ali Muhammad Ali Abd al-Raman, better known by his pseudonym, Ali Kushaib, was among the most notorious figures linked to atrocities in Sudan's Darfur region between 2003 and 2004. Our correspondent in the Hague, Anna Holligan, was in. court and sent this report. Ali Khashib was the influential leader of the Janjouid militia backed by the Sudanese state. He oversaw killings, the rape of women and girls, and took part in acts of torture and persecution. The ICC judges found the Jandjuwe's brutal tactics, including mass executions, systematic sexual violence and pillaging, were often orchestrated and directly

inflicted by Ali Khashib. During the trial, the first before the ICC for Darfur's atrocities, survivors described how villages were burned down, men and boys slaughtered and women sexually enslaved. He'll be sentenced at a later date. Anna Holligan Rescuers are racing to retrieve hundreds of hikers who remain stranded by a blizzard on the slopes of the world's tallest mountain, Mount Everest. Local villages have been deployed to clear out snow blocking access to the area in China, which sits at an altitude of more than 4,900 metres. Posts showed tents buried in deep snowfalls. I spoke to our China correspondent Stephen McDonnell

about the rescue effort. We're just pulling this together in terms of the bits and pieces of information we're getting from officials up there. Not only is this a really remote region, but also a region we can't enter without special permission inside the Tibetan Autonomous region, as journalists and also as foreigners. So according to the official notifications we're getting from the government, at least 350 people have been. rescued from the mountain and there are hundreds more who they've made contact with and are in the process of getting off the mountain. We've been in touch with some of their relatives.

One woman said her husband had been on a 12-day trek and a couple of days in she received a call from him on the satellite phone and he said you have to get in touch with the police because the snow levels have become dangerous and so she rang the Chudang police and they'd already received other notifications from similar hiking groups in the area and pulled together rescue teams involving hundreds of local Tibetans to push through the snow to get to these areas. And others have told us that they're coming back down the mountain in some cases using yaks. And the reason they're using yaks is because the heavy snow has created these areas and they don't quite know what's underneath it. And so I guess

they're pushing the axe ahead to try and clear a path for them to make their way down. The saying it's been very difficult. So what are these people doing because they got into trouble, but they weren't even mountain climbers, were they? They were hikers. Where they are, it's on the eastern approach to Everest. So we're not

sort of halfway up the mountain or anything like that. And this is a time of year when there isn't supposed to be such heavy snow. So there's uncharacteristically heavy, and they're all caught out by it. And in terms of the numbers, it's because it's a national

holidays. So people use this national holiday to go to have a look at the views of Mount Everest, and that's how they've been caught up there in such numbers. But it's just sort of a terrible confluence of circumstances, if you like, that many people at this time, and this uncharacteristically heavy snow at the beginning of October. And some people really quite unwell as a result of this. Yes, well, of course, altitude sickness is one of the things you're going to suffer, but also exposure, hypothermia, and you can be in kind of conditions than this and die from hypothermia. So while I say, they're not halfway up Mount Everest. They are nevertheless up in the Himalayas, well above 4,000 metres. So it is dangerous. And to give you an

indication of how dangerous it can be, in the province next door to that, Qinghai, they've had a similar problem in the last 24 hours, and there somebody was killed. But at least, in terms of the Everest rescue attempt, if what the authorities are telling us is to be believed, they're pretty confident that nobody will die, that they'll get everyone off that mountain. Stephen MacDonald in Beijing. Still to come in this podcast. I'd like to write something that wasn't so much a hurry. So I'd always written too fast.

I always need to have another six months. That's what I'd like. So one, just one that I was happy with. The British novelist, Jilly Cooper, has died at the end. Age of 88. A US federal judge has temporarily blocked the Trump administration from sending hundreds of National Guard troops to the city of Portland in the state of Oregon. The judge's ruling came hours after the governor of California, Gavin Newsom, said he would sue the president over the deployment of state troops. Mr. Newsom described the move as reckless and authoritative

The Trump administration says troops are needed to protect immigration enforcement operations from protesters. Spencer Platt is a photojournalist in Portland. The city itself is extremely quiet and calm, people going about their usual day and cafes are open, restaurants are open, theater, symphony is playing tonight. So it's very quiet. It's very much a split screen like so much of these news events these days. there are people that are very angry, organized on the street. And then there's a lot of people that have just kind of tuned out. They're tired of it all. And, you know, sometimes you can't blame them because it does get a little heavy. He does get a little overwhelming at times. But this is, I want to say it's about a mile and a half out of the city center. And it's a ice detention facility. And it's just become a kind of daily but mainly nightly focal point of anger for many residents. And, you know, know, the crowds aren't huge yet, but if the National Guard is deployed, I suspect the tension will grow. It's usually, you know, there's cars coming in going out of this facility every hour. There's some police. There's some actual ICE members. There's some border patrol.

And they usually come out like on mass like every 30, 40 minutes maybe. And they try to push back to crowd. And that kind of leads, it just kind of, it creates a lot of tension. And sometimes there's tear gas, and there's pushing and shoving. I haven't seen any real violence from the protesters yet. It's actually been pretty calm, but it does seem to be getting more tense as we, you know, growing increasingly close to a potential National Guard deployment. And I think there's a worry on the streets about that, but I do, you know, often get stopped when I'm going to my hotel of all my camera gear, my helmet, my gas mask, and people, locals will. ask me, and do you think it's violent here? Do you think? And I'm always, I tell them, you know,

I don't work for the travel channel. I love the city. And I'm just covering this one aspect of the city. Photojournalist Spencer Platt in Portland. Anti-government protests have broken out again in Madagascar. A few hundred young people, mostly students, started marching this morning from the University of Aunt Anna Narevo. On Sunday, the security forces defended their crackdown on protesters saying it was provoked by the young people, known as Gen Z Mada. The BBC's Sami Awami is in the capital and has been speaking to some of them. There is growing determination among young people to make a difference in their country. As one of them told me, now that they've started this movement, they have to win.

They wanted to rise up a lot of time, but it failed. This is one of the organizers. Let's call him Doda. We met him in the middle of the party. fields on the northern age of the city. He chose this sport, he says, because it's only place that he feels safe. And for the same reason, we can't use his real name. So now that we have launched this movement, the JNZs, it is really, it matters to everyone to have their voice heard right now. And if it's not us, then everybody will be silenced forever. How is it like to be a young person in Madagascar.

Actually, to be a young person in Madagascar, you have to be tough first. Of the insecurities, you need to be prepared for death. You live in constant fear of when your house would be broken into, when you will be shot by people, when you'll be stabbed. About seven kilometers away, we meet Herrizo at his friend's house. He's a millennial, but he tells us he couldn't stay out. All of us suffer of this problem. For Malagasy people is also about the governance.

It's really bad governance and many, many corruption. This is why all Malagasy is concerned of this situation. The frustrations voiced by Doda and Herizzo echo across every corner of the city that we visited. About a few other kilometres away, we met a young woman, about 24 years old. She sells fried sugary donuts at a borrowed weekend sport. We really suffer because of this power and water cut every day. How the president ran the country is not good for the people. So he have to resign.

As dusk falls on Tana Rivo's streets remain calm for now, but behind the quiet, the determination. of a generation grows louder. Sami Awami in Madagascar. Millions of people in Somalia are at risk of worsening hunger and malnutrition. That's according to the United Nations World Food Programme. And from next month, it says the WFP will have to reduce the number of people who receive emergency food help to just 350,000.

That's down from 1.1 million in August, supporting less than one in every 10. 10 people who need it. We heard more from Alison Aman Lawi of the WFP in Somalia. It's a really serious situation here in Somalia. It really is unprecedented for us. The latest assessment that was just done shows that over a million people right now in Somalia are facing these emergency levels of hunger. This is a million mothers and fathers who can't provide even a single meal a day for their children.

We have been supporting the community at a level of about 1.2 million, and that really is going to fall off a cliff, and that's very much how we feel that in November the situation is going to be dire. The level of hungers, this represents what we're going into, which is a hunger season, is a 50% increase in the number of people who are in emergency hunger. And the assessment also shows that close to 2 million pregnant and breastfeeding women and children are malnourished. And this, of course, impacts their health, their growth and their development. So, yeah, it's a really, really serious situation that we're facing right now. So what will happen to these mothers, these children, these families that you won't be able to support? Yeah, it's a very difficult situation. I mean, the World Food Program has teams and partners on the ground.

We have families and communities that rely on us. But without the funding, we can't do our jobs. We can't help them. And we'll have to start suspending activities in November. Only being able to reach one in 10 people coming down from $1.2 million down to $350,000. I mean, what happens to the rest? You know, I'm thinking about a family I met recently who they had to leave their home and their land. You know, we had Omar and Halima because of the drought.

They watched their crops die from lack of rain, and then their goats got thinner and thinner. And finally, they told me that when they finished their last sack of sore gum, they took their three children and just started walking, looking for assistance for a way to feed their kids. There are a particularly sad story. They ended up building a small tin on the edge of a settlement for other people who also had been forced from their homes. In the past, I mean, WFP has been able to support them thanks to the donation. You know, a helping hand only until they can go home and plant crops. But without rain to water those crops or food support until their plants grow, honestly, I don't know how they will feed their children.

And without funding, we can't help them. So it really is quite serious. Alison Oman Lawi of the World Food Programme, talking to Catherine Biarouhanger. The British novelist Jilly Cooper, whose numerous bestsellers such as riders were translated into many languages has died. She was 88 years old. She began her career in newspapers, writing a column for the Sunday Times for 13 years. But she gained fame for her racy romantic novels, the best known of which are her Rutshire Chronicles. One of the books, Rivals, was successfully serialised by Disney Plus in 2024.

It delved into the heady, bitchy, cut, world of 1980s independent television. Alex Stanga looks back at her life. Jilly Cooper grew up in Yorkshire in the sort of world she wrote about, upper middle class and horsey. She said she'd had more than 20 jobs and been fired from most of them because of her atrocious typing. But in 1968 came her big break when she started writing a column for the Sunday Times about life as a young working wife. She later branched out into books. books, humorous, non-fiction, like How to Stay Married. Fiction followed. First, short romances, including prudence,

then the longer Rutscher Chronicle novels, for which she will be best remembered. Jolly, naughty books, with saucy covers and a handsome hero, Rupert Campbell Black. Mercy, mademoiselle. I hope your horse is all right. I don't know how he turned that war. Yes, he was a bit of a silly jump, was it. In person, she was full of vitality and gossip. But she was hardworking and tough too. On occasion she needed to be. She and her husband Leo enjoyed a comfortable lifestyle, but when his publishing firm went bust, she became the main breadwinner for a time. She wrote five books in a single year. In 1999, she was lucky to escape alive from the Paddington Rail crash. She climbed out of an overturned carriage and went as scheduled to a meeting in London. Yet despite the success of her books, she still thought.

thought she could do better. I really would. I know that sounds seriously. I'd like to write a book. My mother always wanted me to write like drummer Margaret Drabble short. I'd like to write something that wasn't so much a hurry. So I'd always written too fast. I always need to have another six months. That's what I'd like. So one, just one that I was happy with. She was, she thought, a reasonable writer, though not a real one. I get drunk at parties, she once said, when I should be observing things.

Alex Stanga on The Life of Jilly Cooper. And that's all from us for now, but there'll be a new edition of the Global News Podcast later. If you want to comment on this podcast or the topics covered in it, you can send us an email. The address is Global Podcast at BBC.co.com. You can also find us on X at BBC World Service. Use the hashtag Global NewsPod. This edition was mixed by Stephen Bailey and the producer. The producers were Muzaffa Shakir and Richard Hamilton.

The editor is Karen Martin. I'm Alex Ritsen. Until next time, goodbye.