Global News Podcast - Israeli settlers trap Palestinians in their West Bank homes

Episode Date: August 12, 2026

Two Palestinian families remain trapped in their homes by settlers who moved into their village in the occupied West Bank on Sunday. The first Israeli soldiers who arrived at the scene were filmed pra...ying with the extremist settlers. But after clashes they left and the settlers have returned. The Palestinian families say their water and power have been cut and they have dwindling food supplies. Also, has the war in Iran eroded Donald Trump's support in one of his key strongholds? Zhu Rongji, the former Chinese premier who championed free market reforms, has died at the age of 97. And we hear from the British driver Andy Green, who's set a new world speed record, in a hydrogen- powered vehicle. The Global News Podcast brings you the breaking news you need to hear, as it happens. Listen for the latest headlines and current affairs from around the world. Politics, economics, climate, business, technology, health – we cover it all with expert analysis and insight. Get the news that matters, delivered twice a day on weekdays and daily at weekends, plus special bonus episodes reacting to urgent breaking stories. Follow or subscribe now and never miss a moment. Get in touch: globalpodcast@bbc.co.uk Photo: Israeli troops clash with settlers besieging Palestinian homes in West Bank Credit: Reuters

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Starting point is 00:00:36 Brazil has accused the U.S. of meddling in its upcoming vote. The U.S. has dismissed the allegation. But how do these claims fit into the long legacy of American electoral interventions? Check out the global story on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the Global News podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Nick Miles and at 15 hours GMT on Wednesday the 12th of August, these are our main stories. Israeli settlers continue to trap two Palestinian families in their homes in the occupied West Bank after clashing with the Israeli security forces.
Starting point is 00:01:13 The German cabinet has approved plans to give sweeping new powers to its intelligence services. A passenger jet built as China's answer to Boeing and Airbus makes its first international flight. Also in this podcast, former Chinese Premier Zhu Rongji, who had championed free market reforms, has died at the age of 97. And a world record for a hydrogen-powered car. Absolute thrill. They were aiming for 350 miles an hour. They did such a good job.
Starting point is 00:01:44 We've just exceeded 400 miles an hour both ways out in the Bonneville Salt Fluts. We start in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, where for the last four days, Two homes in the Palestinian village of Kusra have been surrounded by Israeli settlers. They've been stopping the families from getting in or out. They've also cut off the power and water to the building. This Palestinian resident is one of those trap there. I am Kusay Aburida from the village of Kasra, south of Nabilus.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Four days ago, settlers came to the house and blocked us from leaving. They stopped anyone from coming to the house. We have been deprived of all necessities. They cut off the electricity and water and supply of health care. There is a family living in a nearby house. They have two children, age four and two. They have also been cut off from the outside world. We are unable to leave the house and our situation is tragic.
Starting point is 00:02:53 The soldiers arrived at the house but they did nothing. We appeal to the humanitarian organizations to help us and protect us and provide food and medicine to the families who are besieged by the settlers. Israeli settlements in the West Bank are illegal under both international and Israeli law. However, so far the Israeli security forces haven't been able or willing to break up what is effectively a siege. Doron Minot is a retired colonel in the Israeli military, the IDF, who is now a member of looking the occupation in the eye. That's a volunteer group opposed to the Israeli occupation.
Starting point is 00:03:32 He's also in Kostra. This morning, the commander of the Central Command, which is the military general, Avi Blut, have been there and promised the Palestinian resident that he is going to solve the problem. And he didn't do it yet, you know, maybe he will do it in the close future. Yet he didn't succeed to do it, and it's a very embarrassing thing for him and for the idea.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Our correspondent John Donelson is the first international journalist to get to the village of Kusra. He told me what's been happening there. Well, we're just on the edge of the village of Kusra in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, and I'm looking up at these four houses which are on the opposite hillside. We're a distance of what maybe half a mile or so, and I can make out just to the left of those houses. still what looks to be about 10 settlers there. And I can see where they've established some sort of roadblock just a few hundred metres down the line. Now, these four properties have been
Starting point is 00:04:35 under siege by settlers since Sunday. At some point, the water and electricity has been cut off. Now, we have spoken to one of the families who are under siege, and they said that this morning the Israeli army came and they dismantled some of the settler tents. But as soon as the army moved on, the settlers came back. And this is, you know, a new tactic by the settlers. There's been a huge surge in settler violence against Palestinians in recent years. The UN, I think, says there are on average around about six attacks on Palestinians communities taking place every day this year. That involves violence. Six Palestinians have been killed, hundreds injured. It involves burning property, burning farmland. But this is different. What they're doing in effect is to try and
Starting point is 00:05:21 starve these Palestinian families out. with the view to take those houses over. Now, John, can we expect the military to go back there and confront the settlers more robustly, perhaps? Perhaps, you know, we have had strong words of condemnation from senior leaders within the Israeli military, but as we've seen throughout this past few days, you know, there is a bit of an ambiguity
Starting point is 00:05:51 about some of the role of the soldiers. So at the weekend, we saw video footage showing some of the soldiers praying with the settlers. Some of the soldiers are settlers themselves. So the army may well come back, but the accusation from human rights groups and from Palestinian communities is that the Israeli military allows settlers to act with impunity, with the backing of senior figures within Prime Minister Netanyar whose cabinet, who support the settler actions. And the accusation is that they don't do enough and that there are very rarely prosecutions for settler violence. Nevertheless, there is increasing international scrutiny
Starting point is 00:06:35 on what's going on in parts of the West Bank. To what extent will that play into the pressure that the government brings to bear on what's happening? Well, look, there's been pressure and condemnation from the international community for a long time. You know, before the last few years since the war in Gaza started, which is when we really saw an escalation in settler violence. And that pressure hasn't really worked.
Starting point is 00:06:59 We have heard Prime Minister Netanyahu in the past and other senior politicians within his government strongly condemning the violence by settlers. But as I say, prosecutions are rare. And within Prime Minister Netanyahu's own cabinet, he has right-wing ministers who not only don't condemn what the settlers are doing, actively are accused of encouraging it and inciting such violence. John Donelson, speaking to me from a windy hillside near the village of Kusra. In Germany, the government has decided to give the intelligence services far more power. Ministers say this is because of rising security threats,
Starting point is 00:07:42 but opposition parties and civil liberties groups fear that it will lead to a comprehensive surveillance of the whole population. They're particularly worried about this because of Germany's history. Parliament will still have to approve the reform. A correspondent in Berlin, Jessica Parker, told James Menendez what new powers the agencies are to get. What they're looking at is cuts across their domestic and foreign intelligence services. So to give you a flavour of what those services may be able to do in future, this still needs to go before lawmakers in the autumn.
Starting point is 00:08:14 They could be able to manipulate, disrupt, hack the IT infrastructure of a foreign power if Germany was undergoing a cyber or disinformation attack, they could agents potentially be able to break into a residence and replace explosives with something that's harmless as part of counterintelligence operations. And in the sort of data retention sphere, where Germany has had for a long time very strict privacy rules, they'll loosen those rules,
Starting point is 00:08:44 so there'll be longer data retention periods, greater powers in terms of surveillance as well, telecommunications. So that's a flavour of what they'll be able to do. And some people like listening might be thinking, weren't they able under certain rules and thresholds able to do this anyway? Well, not really. In Germany, there have been very strict guardrails and constraints on the intelligence services as a legacy of what Germans experienced at the hands of Nazi spies and as well the Stasi in East Germany. So this is about loosening restrictions that really are very historically embedded in Germany here.
Starting point is 00:09:22 And, of course, the plan certainly have their critics of people who think that there's overreach going on. Tell us, though, about the context, because clearly that's what's driving this. Is this a response to the threat from Russia, or is there more to it too? I think it's absolutely a response to the threat from Russia. I think you could absolutely see this where it's beginning to be seen as part of that Zayton vendor that was announced in the wake of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, where Germany basically acknowledged that for a long time, underinvested in its military and that it needed to be more robust in terms of security and intelligence
Starting point is 00:09:55 and its intelligence agencies absolutely now becoming part of that Zayton vendor. So I think that's absolutely important context here. And Germany's government says that it is the target of, Germany is the target of daily hybrid attacks, hybrid warfare attacks, whether that might be disinformation, whether that might be cyber attacks, whether that might even be sabotage as well. So it's saying it has to get more robust in the face of hostile actors. But it will apply in the domestic sphere as well. There are some various divisions of powers.
Starting point is 00:10:29 They're a bit complicated to go into between the domestic and the foreign intelligence services. But I think that absolutely is the overall context. And this sense, traditionally, Germany's intelligence services have been described as somewhat vegetarian, whilst other Western allies have been more carnivorous. And they're trying to bring them a bit. more up to the standard of other Western agencies, although they are being clear that they won't be sanctioning the use of example for lethal force. Jessica Parker in Berlin. In recent years, China has been taking huge chunks of the global market in green technology and electric vehicles.
Starting point is 00:11:04 It's also been racing ahead in the development of AI. So far, though, it's lagged behind in aircraft production. But now a new jet being billed as China's answer to large Boeing or Airbus passenger planes has made its first international commercial flight. Our China correspondent Stephen MacDonald told me more. That's the first international link using these homegrown, if I could put it that way, commercial passenger jets made in China, the Comac C-919. So from today, this will be a regular connection between Beijing and Ulaan Bata, the capital of Mongolia. and I guess that they're hoping that eventually these planes will challenge the dominance of Boeing and Airbus.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I mean, given an idea of the size of the planes, I mean, we're talking about something similar to a size of a Boeing 737, so there's a large commercial aircraft. But I think many aviation analysts would say it's going to take a while to really challenge this significant international market because these large Western companies are so entrenched. and I guess trusted in a way too. You know, this is something that it's going to take a while for people to say, well, can we really, I don't know, do we trust you? Are these planes safe? Are they going to be okay?
Starting point is 00:12:22 But you mentioned China's massive inroads into other areas of technology, so why not commercial aircraft? And how significant is this for Beijing? Do you think psychologically, is it good for national pride, do you think? Yeah, absolutely. You put it up there with space program in China that not so long ago hardly existed. Now, China has its own space station. You compare them to
Starting point is 00:12:47 other countries. There's like an international space station with all these other countries combining. China's got its own one and they're regularly putting people up there. It was said by the government not so long ago, if we're going to be taken seriously, we need to be making commercial jets. And that's exactly what China's doing. Now, by the way, these have been tested already domestically. So for a few years now, you know, the Comax C-919s have been running within China, but just, you know, the symbolism of it now being international, even if it's only one route, even if it's only to a neighbouring country, the hope is that they'd start to push out the use of these planes much further afield. Stephen MacDonald in Beijing. And staying in China,
Starting point is 00:13:30 Zhu Rongji, the former Chinese Premier, who championed free market reforms, has died at the age of His policies helped set common as China on the road to economic success. Mickey Bristow looks back at his life. Jiu Rongji was in charge of the Chinese economy in the 1990s, a critical time when not everyone in the leadership was convinced the country needed market reforms. He tried to shut down inefficient and unprofitable state-run firms. He also helped curb inflation, reorganised chaotic financial markets,
Starting point is 00:14:03 and negotiated China's entry into the World Trade Organization. organisation. Zhu Rongji was China's premier for five years from 1998. The position put him behind the then-president Zhang Zemin in the Chinese political system's complicated hierarchy, but many think he was the real architect behind the booming China of today. He was known as a tough operator, not just thinking up new policies, but also how to implement them and was a hard worker. At one state banquet in Australia, he was reported. found in the men's room dismantling a toilet just to see how it worked. That fitted his profile.
Starting point is 00:14:44 He studied engineering at Beijing's prestigious Qinghua University before a succession of government jobs, most of them dealing with economic affairs. Zhu Rongji was popular with the people he helped govern, and one of the few Chinese leaders who could entertain a crowd, as he did here, talking about Hong Kong. Later in life, he published a series of books about his time in office. He said he wanted them to serve as an accurate record of a historic period of transformation.
Starting point is 00:15:21 By this time, he appeared in public with grey hair, something few Chinese leaders like to do. They mostly die theirs. Perhaps, as he said in his books, he really was just interested in showing things as they really were. Mickey Bristow on Jou Rongji, who's died age 97. Still to come in this podcast, as a film about the early career of Anthony Bourdain hit cinemas, we hear what was so unique about this American chef and writer. There was something very kinetic and bullshit about the way he wrote about that world, and he became an appointed spokesperson for a whole particular culture,
Starting point is 00:16:01 and that was something we didn't feel we'd heard before. Your sales order says one thing. Your inventory says another. Your spreadsheet says good luck. O-Doo brings your business together on a single platform, from sales and accounting to inventory and marketing. Visit Odo.com to book a demo. It's OD-O.com. The U.S. has long been suspected of trying to sway elections in other countries, but is something more brazen going on these days? I'm Asma Khalid, and I'm one of the hosts of the Global Story podcast from the BBC. Brazil has accused the US of meddling in its upcoming vote. The US has dismissed the allegation.
Starting point is 00:16:47 But how do these claims fit into the long legacy of American electoral interventions? Check out the global story on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the Global News podcast. At the end of July, an estimated 72,000 migrants swam or climbed around the border fence between Morocco and Ceuta, a Spanish enclave on Morocco's Mediterranean coast in an attempt to reach Europe. Around 100 people died. Social media played a key role in the crisis, many posts spreading misinformation. Well, now the BBC has found that these social media accounts are again posting messages to hundreds of thousands of followers, encouraging them
Starting point is 00:17:34 to attempt another crossing in the coming days. The BBC's global population correspondent, Stephanie Hegetty has been investigating. We looked at this ecosystem that has existed for months, maybe years in some cases, where these Facebook groups, Instagram accounts, share information about crossing the border, tips and different bits of information to help people cross the border illegally. And these are the groups in which messages about the border in late July started to spread, misinformation, things that were completely untrue, the fact that the border was open. So these are the same groups and accounts.
Starting point is 00:18:10 that were sharing information that caused this first surge of 72,000 people across the border. And of course, we know that at least 100 of those people died. Now, they continued after that first crossing in late July. And what we saw in the past couple of weeks is that new messages are being shared, encouraging people to attempt another crossing. And they're being shared widely across these groups. We looked at dozens of groups and found hundreds of these posts. So they're sharing information.
Starting point is 00:18:38 First of all, they're just showing pick up. of the border with the date that they're encouraging people to make this second attempt at crossing. We also found people sharing information about equipment they might use like wet suits or we saw in one case a sea scooter, which is a kind of propeller machine that would help you swim faster around the coast. When we alerted Meta, the owners of Facebook and Instagram about these posts and we sent a list of some of the posts that we'd seen, all of the ones that we sent to them Two hours later, they had been deleted or we couldn't see them anymore. Is it possible to tell who is behind these accounts?
Starting point is 00:19:15 What we saw from the accounts we looked at is it does seem to be a kind of a very decentralized group of people. Many of the accounts, when we looked back as far as we could, seemed to be set up by ordinary people. Some of them were small. Some of them were huge. Some had over 100,000 members. Some were smaller. We couldn't see any evidence that this was organized in any way. by say, smugglers. It did seem to be ordinary people. And from what we saw of what happened in July, it did seem to be a kind of organic spread of misinformation across this ecosystem of groups and
Starting point is 00:19:49 accounts that already existed. And is there any sort of self-reflection in this group? I mean, as you say, at least 100 people thought to have died. Is there any recognition of the dangers? Because if they're calling for people to take those sorts of risks again, there's, of course, the sad possibility that more people die. There were, I mean, they were also providing a kind of platform where people could share information about those that had gone missing or those that had died. But they seem to be a minority of the posts. And under some of the calls for another crossing this week, we saw people saying, don't do this, don't fall for this, these are lies, this isn't true. But again, that did seem to be a minority of what was being posted.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Stephanie Hegarty there, speaking to James Cognall. Is Donald Trump the election winner he once was? Results from Republican primaries on Tuesday suggests that his endorsement still carries significant weight in some places, but not everywhere. Public enthusiasm for the president, more widely has certainly waned. Recent polling placed his approval rating at an historic low of 32%. Rising petrol prices and inflation, more generally, are taking their toll, with some polls even showing self-identified MAGA voters who have begun to suffer Iran war fatigue. The BBC's Sheila Flynn has spent the last week speaking to Trump supporters in the Tennessee town of Kingsport
Starting point is 00:21:10 to see if the war has eroded support for the president in one of his strongholds. Support for President Trump's Make America Great Again platform is overwhelming in this mountain town, which voted for Trump by comfortable margins in all three of his elections. No one I speak to here is happy about inflation, but few lay the blame at the president's feet. I think they're doing a great job. with what he can control. Parked on his Harley Davidson outside a local cafe, I meet 53-year-old Daniel Overstreet.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Whether it was the Iran War or anything else, we're not going to control those gas prices. And people can complain and fuss. It's not going to change that. Also stopping for his breakfast is David Carter, a bearded veteran who plays Santa Claus at Christmas time. He backs the president's involvement in the Middle East. You've seen it in history,
Starting point is 00:22:02 the reason we go over there and we keep everything under control there is we don't have it on our front doorstep. Veterans account for around 10% of the region's population. The town is also home to the Holston Army ammunition plant, which turns out explosives used in Patriot missiles and other heavy weaponry for U.S. military stockpiles. David says that while he and many others in the town still back the president's goals overall, the war has certainly caused some frustration amongst the U.S. to the supporters. Trump said America first, and he's not put America first. He's put the war
Starting point is 00:22:39 overseas first. In addition to the munitions plant, the city is home to a number of major factories. Employers Trump came to office promising to defend. 65-year-old Pam Robinson spent 20 years working at the local chemical plant. While she also fears the prospect of a nuclear Iran, she does think patience for the war, even here in Kingsport, has its limits. If people aren't getting killed, I think people will tolerate it a little bit longer, but they're going to say, soon, you need to wrap this up. Something needs to be done. Something needs to be decided. Despite a few misgivings, none of the Trump voters I spoke to brought up the war unprompted. This is deep Bible Belt
Starting point is 00:23:20 America, a moniker that many here embrace proudly. Christianity is often the primary driver of their voting intention. Dave and Pam again. This country straight away from God compared to what it used to be. The first question I asked, do you believe in abortion? And usually if I get that answer, I know pretty well where I need to go on the rest of it. Even if his national support is slipping, there's little to indicate that the Republican Corps conservative base here looks likely to break faith with President Trump. That report by Sheila Flynn. Breaking Land Speed Records is an age of old obsession. The vehicles that do it these days look more like horizontal rockets than cars, but there was something groundbreaking about the one that's just gone more than 654 kilometres
Starting point is 00:24:08 an hour on the blindingly bright play known as the Bonneville Salt Flats in the US state of Utah. It was a hydrogen-powered car breaking the record for that type of vehicle. The only emissions, a trickle of water vapour from the exhaust pipe. With the intrepid driver was retired British Air Force pilot, Andy Gru. He spoke to James Coppinal straight after he got out of the car. Absolute thrill. They were aiming for 350 miles an hour.
Starting point is 00:24:34 They did such a good job. We've just exceeded 400 miles an hour both ways out in the Bonneville Salt Flats. An exceptional team effort and it's been brilliant to work with a genuinely world-class team of people. And to watch them do in five or six days on the Bonneville Salt Flats,
Starting point is 00:24:52 what would normally take a high-speed racing team five or six years to achieve has just been extraordinary. When you are travelling 400 miles an hour, 650 kilometres an hour or so, presumably there's not much time to enjoy the stark beauty of the salt flats? Well, you know, strapping into the car and starting the engines, I can actually look down the 12-mile-long racetrack, best racing surface in the world.
Starting point is 00:25:15 That's the reason that it's the spiritual home of the land speed record. I'm actually sitting out on the salt flats right now, looking into the distance, and it is quite literally somewhere you can see the curvature of the earth. a smooth, hard, consistent surface in excess of 10 miles long. You can take cars up to very high speed and have the distance to slow them down safely again. And there's also the Bonneville salt flats itself. Now, over the decades, there's been a lot of mining of minerals in the salt flats and they are getting thinner and thinner. So there's a marvellous organisation called Save the Salt
Starting point is 00:25:45 who have spent decades lobbying local and national government to encourage the mining companies. All they need to do is all the spoil they take off, pump it back on. to Bonneville. And that has been happening intermittently over the last few years. There's another push for them now to restore the most amazing racecourse on earth back to its full former glory and to replace the salt that's been mined out of it. So whether you've got a 50cc motorcycle or a 10 litre hydrogen-powered supercar like the JCB Hydromax, this is the place to come. I'm fascinated by your own story. You're a jet fighter pilot. You've broken a succession of world records. What motivates you to take on that one extra challenge?
Starting point is 00:26:30 Well, the invitation to work with a world-class team of engineers, JCB, who are the world leaders in hydrogen internal combustion engine technology, and ProDrive and Extract, and of course, Ricardo, who managed to uprate the power rating of these engines by a factor of 11, up to 800 horsepower each, perhaps most importantly, to be able to promote a new kind of race car, hydrogen-in-in-entern-combustion racing cars. The idea is not new, but the technology is not new, but the technology. technology to do it safely and effectively is new, and to be able to promote that as a genuine
Starting point is 00:27:01 zero-carbon technology of the future, for all those reasons, why wouldn't I want to join? Andy Green. Anthony Bourdain, the bad boy American chef, writer and TV star, became a cult figure. But eight years ago, he took his own life at the age of 61. A new film, Tony, looks at a formative year in the life of the man whose book, Kitchen Confidential, pulled back the curve. on a chaotic, drug-fueled, passionate world of the professional kitchen. Here's some of the trailer. I need a job. You work in a kitchen before?
Starting point is 00:27:35 Sorry. Yeah. Let me dis you this. This is how you open an ice down. I ate these in France when I was a kid. I said they taste like the future. We're going to start with this is a special. Every Friday, something fancy, but not pretentious, something sexy, you know?
Starting point is 00:27:53 Something only you can do. What is your name? Anthony Bourdain. Well, Nick Robinson spoke to two of his many fans. Sally Abbe, Michelin-star chef in London, and first, Jay Rainer, food critic of the Financial Times newspaper, who also knew him personally. He was very important.
Starting point is 00:28:14 I became a restaurant critic after being a general journalist in 1999. Obviously, Kitchen Confidential came out in 2000. And it really was an extraordinary blast of invective, a sort of voice that we hadn't heard around food. There had been other people who'd written from the other side of the kitchen door before, including George Orwell back in the 30s. But there was something very kinetic and balshy about the way he wrote about that world. And he became an appointed spokesperson for a whole particular culture. And that was something we didn't feel we'd heard before.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Connecticut and balsh is one way of putting it. But it was hyper-masculinity, wasn't it? It was aggressive, sometimes childish. That's the really interesting point. We have to assess Tony Bordaigne from the perch of now. and the Me Too movement and issues of abuse in the kitchen, which he himself acknowledged. He gave an interview in Slate in 2017,
Starting point is 00:29:07 where he recognised that he may have actually validated meatheads, not necessarily created the space which was comfortable for women to report the issues they were having. Sally, can talk about that far better than I can. But I think it's one of the interesting things that he gave a voice for a particular culture while also licensing it, which may not really have been as great a positive as it seemed at the time.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Sally, go on then. Pick up that thought. Well, you know, I think, as Jay said, we've got to look at it at the time. The book came out over 25 years ago. And I think if you read a lot of things or looked at any TV shows, for example, that had come out at that time,
Starting point is 00:29:44 they're of time. So I think that needs to be taken into consideration that times have changed a lot. But I still think he is the chef's chef, and I still think a lot of chef's view him as a complete hero, because he was just being honest. and brutally honest about exactly what it was like to work in a kitchen, and that had never been done before.
Starting point is 00:30:03 An honesty required saying, did it, Sally, that it did require sometimes, and forgive me, I'm not making a point about you, I should hasten to add. It did require people who were not entirely sane some of the time in order to really drive a kitchen forward. Definitely, you know, I mean, it's still the same now. I think, you know, obviously times are changing. Certainly my kitchen is not a toxic, shouty, screaming place to work, but it's still crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:27 You know, it's still high pressure, it's still intense, it still requires this completely different set of skills to somebody, you know, working 9 to 5 in an office. Like, you have to be a little bit crazy to work in the kitchen, I think it certainly helps. And Jay, is that what made him a cult hero? Because he did come for people who read that book, saw him on TV, more than just a chef they liked, didn't it?
Starting point is 00:30:52 Yeah, I mean, it was an insight into a particular world. The interesting thing about it, It was that he wasn't himself, and he always said this, a particularly accomplice chef. He was not some great gastronomic hero. He had an insight into how kitchens worked, and he had a language and a way to write about them. He tried his hand-up fiction. He wasn't particularly good at that. But when it came to describing the life of the kitchen, he found a vocabulary and a very direct way to talk about it,
Starting point is 00:31:17 which did turn him into a bit of a hero. I did a book of him with him in 1999. 200 people, 199 of them were mad acolytes of his. And Sally, did you love his writing as well? well as he's cooking. Oh, absolutely. I think the thing about his writing is that it's so relatable for everybody. So you don't have to be an Oxford University graduate to understand what he's trying to put on paper. And I think that's why it spans so many people that love him, because everybody gets it. That was the chef, Sally Abbe, and Jay Rayner. And that's all from us for now. And if you
Starting point is 00:31:50 want to get in touch, you can email us at global podcast at bbc.com.uk. You can also find us on X. at BBC World Service. Use the hashtag Global NewsPod. And don't forget our sister podcast, the Global Story, which goes in depth and beyond the headlines on one big story. This edition of the Global News podcast was mixed by Joe McCartney and the producer was Judy Frankel. The editor is Karen Martin. I'm Nick Miles and until next time. Goodbye. The US has long been suspected of trying to sway elections in other countries, but is something more brazen going on these days? I'm Asma Khalid, and I'm one of the hosts of the Global Story podcast from the BBC.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Brazil has accused the U.S. of meddling in its upcoming vote. The U.S. has dismissed the allegation. But how do these claims fit into the long legacy of American electoral interventions? Check out the global story on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.

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