Global News Podcast - Kremlin signals no breakthrough after Ukraine talks with US

Episode Date: December 3, 2025

Talks in Moscow between President Putin and the US envoy, Steve Witkoff, about a peace plan for Ukraine have ended without a breakthrough. Russian negotiators described the meeting as productive and u...seful, but the Kremlin aide, Yuri Ushakov, said no compromise had been reached over Ukrainian territory. Also: on the first anniversary of an attempted coup in South Korea, the president praises civilians who defended democracy; Wikipedia's most read pages of 2025 are revealed, from Charlie Kirk to Ozzy Osbourne; we hear from a working mother in Japan, where the country's first female prime minister has made 'work' a national slogan; and the Fabergé egg, commissioned by Russia's last Tsar, which has sold at auction for a record $30 million.The Global News Podcast brings you the breaking news you need to hear, as it happens. Listen for the latest headlines and current affairs from around the world. Politics, economics, climate, business, technology, health – we cover it all with expert analysis and insight. Get the news that matters, delivered twice a day on weekdays and daily at weekends, plus special bonus episodes reacting to urgent breaking stories. Follow or subscribe now and never miss a moment. Get in touch: globalpodcast@bbc.co.uk

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the Global News podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Alex Ritson, and at 0400 GMT on Wednesday the 3rd of December, these are our main stories. The Kremlin says there's been no breakthrough in talks to end the war in Ukraine. On the anniversary of the failed coup in South Korea, President Lee J. Myeong praises those who saved democracy. Tensions are mounting in Honduras, where there's still no result. from Sunday's presidential election. Also in this podcast. There's a lot of workshops, there's a club to promote Bitcoin and everything.
Starting point is 00:00:39 I personally don't use any cryptocurrencies. The Swiss city aiming to become Europe's Bitcoin Centre. Donald Trump's envoy, Steve Whitkoff, and the US president's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who both helped to secure a ceasefire in Gaza, were at the Kremlin for five hours. on Tuesday for much-anticipated talks with President Putin on ending the war in Ukraine. They were discussing President Trump's Plan for Peace,
Starting point is 00:01:08 proposals that appear to have been amended after lobbying by Ukraine and its European allies. Would President Putin accept the changes? One of his aides, Yuri Ushakov, said the negotiations with the two American envoys would remain confidential, but they were positive. The conversation was very useful. constructive and highly substantive, and it lasted not for five minutes, but for five hours. This allowed us thoroughly to discuss the prospects for further joint efforts, aimed at achieving a long-term peaceful resolution of the Ukrainian crisis.
Starting point is 00:01:46 There's been no apparent breakthrough, even if the Kremlin said the door to a solution remained open. The big issue appears to be Ukrainian territory held by Russia, as the BBC's Will Vernon, who's reported from Moscow, explained. That does seem to be the kind of crucial sticking point in all this. And Mr. Ushakov said in his comments that the territorial question was discussed at the meeting. As you mentioned, in an earlier version of this draft peace plan, Ukraine would have been forced to give up large parts of the Denex region that it still controls. And that was unacceptable to the Ukrainians and the Europeans. So what was presented in this meeting, we think, is the kind of amended or you could say even watered down version of the process.
Starting point is 00:02:30 plan. Mr. Oshokov also mentioned that Vladimir Putin commented on, quote, the destructive actions of European countries over the Ukraine peace process. And Mr. Putin also quite indignantly criticized the Europeans before the meeting, saying that they basically are sabotaging peace. So you kind of build a picture of how these talks went. Yeah, quite scary saber rattling towards Europe. Yes. He said that if Europe wants war, then we're ready right now. And what critics of Mr Putin and Mr. Trump, in fact, would say this shows that Vladimir Putin thinks he can do a deal, wants to do a deal, is perhaps maneuvering to do a deal over the heads of the Ukrainians and the Europeans directly with Mr. Trump, a deal that's favorable to Russia and is definitely not favorable to the Ukrainian. Yeah, because although Russia has said that no compromise has been reached, the process, well, it's not over, is it? No, the Kremlin said that contacts will continue. Look, I think all sides really want to do a deal.
Starting point is 00:03:28 We know how keen Mr. Trump is to do a deal, to claim a win. In fact, you know, his critics say that he's perhaps too eager to do a deal and that the Russians know that. And, you know, Mr. Putin does what Mr. Putin always does, and that is go in from the outset with maximalist demands, knowing that that is more likely to kind of yield results that are more favourable to Russia later on. And, you know, time is on the Kremlin side. Russian forces are advancing on the battlefield, although pretty slowly. The Ukrainians are losing ground. They have a manpower shortage. And also, the Kremlin doesn't have to worry about pesky things like upcoming elections,
Starting point is 00:04:06 which Western governments do have to worry about. So, you know, they can afford to sit it out and wait for a better deal. Will Vernon. We want to bring you an update on the floods and landslides on the Indonesian island of Sumatra with a voice from the heart of the devastated region. Officials now say more than 750 people have done. and hundreds of thousands have been evacuated from their homes. Villagers have told the BBC they've had to walk for hours
Starting point is 00:04:34 to find clean water, rice or a phone signal. We managed to get through to one man living in North Sumatra, Ludwig Mapuong, who sent us some videos and they're pretty shocking. In this one, you see a road transformed into a raging river. Well, Rudvig told us he didn't speak much English, but what he did tell my colleague Rebecca Kespie about the plight facing him and others in his vicinity was very powerful.
Starting point is 00:05:09 The road is broken in my region. So many people hungry, electrical is blackout. The food is empty now in my region. region. Many foods not be distributed to my country. You're saying that the road is impassable. Nobody can get through on the road. There's no power. And you're running out of food in that area. The food is distributed by helicopter. So many people in my region will be hungry for two or three days. I know that the military are trying to drop food by helicopter, as you say, but
Starting point is 00:05:51 We've also heard that people have got so desperate, there's actually been some looting and some people have been injured in the scramble to get through to whatever aid is being distributed. The situation now is chaos. Many citizens are hungry. Is there a fear that there could be disease spreading as well? Because when there's a lot of floodwater and possibly, you know, dead bodies in the water. that could be a health risk, couldn't it? Yes, yes, miss. The government now find many helpers to go to food in this area.
Starting point is 00:06:32 So the government worked fast in my area. So people can be connected to another area. Ludovic, good to speak to you. I'm so sorry you're going through this. Good luck with it. And thank you so much for helping us understand the situation there. Help my country, miss. Help my country, miss. It's very many people hungry now.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Many people hungry, miss. Help me. Help our area, miss. Ludwig Ma Pahung in Indonesia. The liberal candidate Salvador Nasrallah has taken a narrow lead in the presidential election in Honduras. With just over 60% of the vote counted, he's slightly ahead of his conservative rival, Nasri, Fura. Votes are being counted by hand. The delay in the results following Sunday's election has caused rising tension in Honduras. Meanwhile, the country's former president and convicted drug trafficker Juan Orlando Hernandez has been released from jail in the United States after
Starting point is 00:07:35 receiving a pardon from President Trump. A lawyer for Mr. Hernandez, Renato Stabili, was asked whether the former leader would remain in the U.S. I think it's premature to figure out what he's going to do next. His name is clear. He received a full and unconditional pardon from President Trump. So there is nothing left. It has been wiped away completely and absolutely. In terms of what he's going to do next, like I said, I think it's just too early to tell. I don't know if he's going to return to politics. I don't know what his next thing is going to be. Our Central America correspondent, Will Grant, joined us from the Honduran capital, Tegucigalpa. First, the pardon. Why was he freed from prison? I think in essence, because Donald Trump has been persuaded of the argument that Mr. Hernandez's family has been making since the moment he was arrested in 2022, that this was all some kind of politically motivated attack against him.
Starting point is 00:08:33 It was revenge, supposedly, for having clamped down on drug traffickers himself, and that the entire case was just simply built on the testimony of convicted criminals and didn't stack up. The key in terms of Mr. Hernandez's family was getting that argument to Donald Trump and then him agreeing with it to the point that he would issue a pardon. They have managed to do that in part with support from certain key mega figures to actually bring the case to Mr. Trump's attention. It does seem like a contradiction, though, for Mr. Trump to be releasing a convicted drug trafficker while at the same time using what you might call gunboat diplomacy over supposed drug trafficking in Venezuela. And that has been noted not just by journalists, but also by members of Congress, members of the Senate.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Questions have been raised, of course, by people on the streets of Togousigalpa around Honduras who are scratching their heads and wondering how this makes sense. The argument from the Trump administration from that is that there is a key difference, that in essence Mr. Hernandez was, as Donald Trump himself, put it, set up by the Biden administration, whereas Nicholas Maduro in Venezuela has a slew of allegations in indictment waiting for him over his own involvement in the supposed cartel, the cartel of the Sons. Now, the difference for many ends up being more political than actual, because, of course, despite the pardon, Juan Orlando Hernandez was found guilty of being at the very center of conspiracy
Starting point is 00:10:09 to bring in over 400 tonnes of cocaine into the United States while president. Well, while we have you, the election, when are we going to know the result? And are Honduran feeling nervous about the outcome? They are feeling nervous. It's been going on now since Sunday night, once polls closed. It is still on an absolute knife edge. It is getting there. So two-thirds of the votes have been tallied.
Starting point is 00:10:34 As you said in your introduction, the former Vice President Salvador Nazrallah now has a very slender vote over Nazari Asfura, who's Mr. Trump, favoured candidate, but there's still a good number of votes left to go. That control, that lead could change hands yet again. Will Grant in Honduras. The most popular English language articles of 2025 on Wikipedia have been revealed by the Wikimedia Foundation. The top 20 most red pages span politics, religion and entertainment. Our technology editor Zoe Kleinman has the details. The US conservative activist Charlie Kirk was Wikipedia's most red page of 2025, viewed nearly 45 million times. In the 24 hours after his murder in September, the page was viewed an average of 170 times per second.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Second on the list was Wikipedia's ongoing compilation of 2025's notable deaths. But two names on that list, Ozzy Osbourne and Pope Francis, had their own places in the top 10, with nearly 18 million viewing Wikipedia's article about the late Black Sabbath frontman. The entry about Pope Leo, who was appointed in May, was read over 22 million times. The top 20 most popular pages skews heavily towards American personalities with President Donald Trump,
Starting point is 00:11:57 Vice President J.D. Vance, YouTuber Mr Beast and the multi-billionaire Elon Musk, all on the chart. The page for Zoran Mamdani, the newly elected mayor for New York, received only 60,000 fewer views than that of the Tesla boss. There are no individual women amongst them, but there are two superhero movies, Superman, and the Fantastic Four First Steps.
Starting point is 00:12:18 The articles on the TV series Adolescence and Severance were also accessed by millions. Wikipedia marks its 25th birthday next month and has a global team of 250,000 volunteer writers and editors. The winter egg is one of 50 imperial Easter eggs that Faber created for the Romanovs. Only 43 still exist. I think it's the best. It's a true masterpiece. Absolute joy. A Faberé egg, commissioned by Russia's final czar, sells for a new record. South Korea is a young democracy, but admired across the globe for its vibrant
Starting point is 00:13:07 politics. But a year ago, the country descended into political chaos when the then-president Yun Suk Yil tried to impose martial law. It failed, in part, because thousands of people came out onto the streets of the capital Seoul to stop the soldiers. To commemorate the anniversary, the man who's now South Korea's president, Li J. Myeong, praised residents who'd come out to defend democracy. The South Korean people confronted armored vehicles heading to towards the National Assembly with just their bodies. They protested against the police who'd blockaded Parliament and helped lawmakers climb over the Assembly fence so they could fulfil their constitutional duties. It was thanks to the people stepping forward themselves
Starting point is 00:13:51 that the National Assembly was able to vote to lift martial law and our military faithfully complied with that decision under democratic civilian control. President Lee J. Meung also warned that there is still much to do to ensure the events of one year ago do not happen again. Our sole correspondent, Jake Kwan, spoke to me from outside South Korea's National Assembly and told me more of what the President had to say in his national address. Well, he was saying that today needs to be commemorated. He said that he will make December 3rd the national holiday
Starting point is 00:14:24 so that people in the next generation can remember how the Korean people had valiantly fought to keep the democracy. And he said that South Korean people also deserves a Nobel Peace, for their valiant effort. At the same time, he changed gear a little bit saying that there needs to be a harsh punishment against those who, what he described, as the designers of the coup d'etat and the insurrection. Yesterday, he said that those who had organized this needs to be punished, like what had happened to the Nazi party, which are quite strong words from him.
Starting point is 00:14:58 And this is something that he had compared to a wound that needs to be cut out of the South Korean society. There has been some of the elements of the South Korean right who had, you know, justified the martial law who, the main opposition party is still having fully divorced himself from the former president who launched the martial law attempt. So, you know, there are signs to suggest that this divide seems like it is entrenching itself. Of course, former president, Yun was forced from office and put on trial. Where are we in that process? Well, the President Yunso Gjol, former president, is now standing trial for five different charges, as well as the former First Lady,
Starting point is 00:15:44 and many of members of his cabinets have been arrested or have been indicted. And this is a trial that has been going for months now. Now, we're going to see the result of one of the first trial against his prime minister for not being able to stop the charge being insurrection. And we're going to see the result around next month. That is going to be the first kind of result of this whole insurrection trials. And that will kind of give us a steer on what will be the verdict on the rest of President Yun and his cabinet. But, you know, this is one of the most serious charges in South Korean law, criminal law.
Starting point is 00:16:24 And the punishment is either life in prison or death. So, you know, this will be very much a big, like, historical moment in South Korea's democracy, but the result, we may not see it for many months and it is surely expected to go all the way up to the Supreme Court. Jake Kwan. And for more on one of today's big stories, you can go to YouTube, search for BBC News, click on the logo and then choose podcasts and global news podcast. There's a new story in Vision available every weekday. The Swiss Lakeside City of Lagano is.
Starting point is 00:17:03 is aiming to attract businesses and investment by becoming Europe's Bitcoin capital. You can still pay for everything in Swiss francs, but in hundreds of shops and restaurants, you can use Bitcoin instead. Our reporter John Lawrenson went to check it out. In a McDonald's by the lake, in the centre of Lagano, a customer orders coffee. The salesperson holds up what looks like a credit card, payment terminal, but which is in fact a special crypto one distributed free to businesses by the town council. The customer pays contact lists from the Bitcoin wallet on his telephone.
Starting point is 00:17:44 0.000-08629 Bitcoin, it comes to. A figure constantly changing because of the currency's notorious volatility. Bitcoin, this purely digital currency that uses encryption to control manager issued units as opposed to so-called fiat money used by central banks or governments. People often buy it as an investment, a gamble, in other words, on its value going up, as opposed to down, as it has quite a lot recently. But how many even think about using it to buy actual things like a diamond ring or a pizza? Well, in Lugano, it's different. I want to talk about an experiment I did.
Starting point is 00:18:30 This July, I have a problem with my bank. I had to live in Bitcoin only for 11 days. Mia Liponi runs the Plan B hub, a meeting place for people who work in the Bitcoin sector. You can survive here in Bitcoin only. It's missing public transportation at the moment, which is really important. Another one is fuel. Groceries are okay. I got things delivered at home, even.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Plenty of medical places, but not a dentist. And another big things are bills. You cannot pay bills with Bitcoin. Although you can pay for municipal services. If you get a parking fine, you can pay it in Bitcoin. Yes, you can also pay taxes in Bitcoin. Which is probably not why Bitcoin enthusiasts moved to this town, but still. I wander along the lakefront and into a park where there's a square block of metal,
Starting point is 00:19:26 a plinth upon which stood a statue of Satoshi Nakamoto, So the mysterious person who brought Bitcoin into being in 2009. Playing on the mystery, the statue made of slats of metal, is transparent when you look at it from the front. And it is now completely invisible because this summer some equally anonymous individual or individuals unscrued it, broke it into bits and threw it in the lake. Not everyone here, it seems, is keen on crypto.
Starting point is 00:19:58 In front of the empty plinth, I get talking to a few passes by, like Lachia. It's interesting because not that many things get vandalized around here. This is a quiet place. Yeah, it's quiet. People are usually fairly well-behaved, and you don't see often people having very strong political opinions either. Like, I'm from the University of Lugano,
Starting point is 00:20:20 and there's a lot of workshops, there's a club to promote Bitcoin and everything. I personally don't use any cryptocurrencies, so I don't feel like it impacts me at all. But I do find it surprising that institutions such as my university would promote it so much. I think it's associated to crime, to the dark web, and speculation. Like cryptocurrencies in general, a lot of people lose their money because they invest in it and then it crashes.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I asked the mayor, Michali Folletti, if he is concerned that Lugano will become a mafia magnet. No, because mafia people are more interested. to use fiat for money laundering and the risk for for switzerland is this is with the swiss franc not with the bitcoin because when they they sell drugs or something like this they they receive fiat money not bitcoin because the most anonymous is the cash you can use fiat money or do something good or something bad, the same with Bitcoin. Lugano is, though, a Bitcoin magnet with almost 110 crypto-sector companies moving or starting up here.
Starting point is 00:21:35 John Lawrenson with that report. Work, work, work, work and work. That was the election phrase of Japan's new Prime Minister, the first female in the job, Sanai Takahichi. She's pledged to abandon her own work-life balance for the duration of the job. She famously only sleeps for around two to four hours a night. But she's also said, I will have everyone work like a horse. Japan already has a reputation for long working hours.
Starting point is 00:22:10 The work slogan has just won Japan's catchphrase of the year. Rebecca Kesby has been talking to one young mother in Japan. She's an office worker and only wants us to use her first. First name, Hero. So what does she make of it all? Our generation was surprised and a little bit shocked. Can you explain that a little bit for us? Because I know in the past, I mean, there's even been, there's a word for it, isn't there? Is it Karoshi, death from over work? Yeah. Has been a thing, or that's like being discussed in Japan and such long working hours for many decades. And there was a move, wasn't there, to try to reduce. that and to give people a better work-life balance, especially people like you, trying to
Starting point is 00:22:57 bring up children. Yes. I think the nowadays conditions in Japan, working hours has become considerably shorter. In case of me, nearly 10 years ago, it was quite common to work from 7 a.m. until 11 p.m. Sorry, from when? 7 a.m. until 11 p.m. 7 a.m. till 11 p.m. For me, for me. And my colleague working like that and so hectic.
Starting point is 00:23:25 But I now get home before 6pm, especially since I have a child. My company is considered toward me. That said, many of my colleagues stay work over time. What about specifically the gender issue? Because obviously, she's the first female prime minister and no doubt lots of women, you know, thought that would be a good thing. and lots of women in Japan have felt forced out of the workforce when they've had a child
Starting point is 00:23:55 because it's so difficult to try and balance the two things. Do you think this will turn off female voters? Many people think that because she's prime minister, Prime Minister needs to work so hard to change our country. So some people accept the phrase from her. But in case of me, I don't think like a big prefer for. from hot, just one sentence, like working so hard. But the problem is that more old generation think that half-rays is so welcome.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Do you think there is a sort of generational gap then? Yes. So like our generation 30s, we understand that working whole culture. But younger generation really varied the work-life balance and work-style reforms are progressing within large corporations. So young people are increasingly reluctant to join companies where work-life balance is not properly established. And politically, do you think this is a message that will get support? I understand this is only her message for her self.
Starting point is 00:25:06 So we believe and we hope this is only her self. So you're basically saying she can work however hard she wants, but as long as she doesn't make the rest of us do the same. Especially young people, young generation and women who need to care, a young children, wanted to work shorter than before. So just one comment won't change the society quickly. That was Hiro, a young mother in Japan. Now, let me tell you about the winter egg.
Starting point is 00:25:39 It has wood anemones carved from white quartz and has just sold at Christy's auction house in London, for more than $30 million. I should say that price includes fees and it's much higher than the previous auction price for a Faberje egg. The winter egg once belonged to the Russian imperial family and was commissioned from the House of Faberjé
Starting point is 00:26:06 in St Petersburg by Tsar Nicholas II in 1913. Margot Organisian is from Christi's and she's been speaking to James Cuma Arasami. The winter wreck is one of 50 imperial Easter eggs that Fabje created for the Romanovs, but out of those 50, only 43 still exist and most of them are in museums. So, in fact, the winter wreck was one of only seven imperial Easter eggs left in private collections, incredibly rare piece and a rare chance to acquire such a rare work. What does it look like? The winter wreck is carved from rock crystal, quite a fragile stone, but the craftsman
Starting point is 00:26:47 is amazing. If you look at the egg, it opens. Inside there is a basket of sprint flowers, which symbolizes the revival, the spring that comes after winter. And the egg sits on a beautiful base, which looks like melting eyes, also carved from rock crystal. And what is it about the egg that is so attractive to collectors? The rarity and the provenance, the fact that it was made for the Romanov family, and it was a gift from Nicholas II to his mother. Secondly, craftsmanship. I think that's what Faberje is really known for and that's what collectors really appreciate. When you look at the winter rack,
Starting point is 00:27:23 it's really hard to comprehend how they've made it. It's such a timeless design. An inspiration came from nature and it's really beautiful. And the fact that one has not been up for sale for more than 20 years, what was the sense of anticipation like, do you think? Well, there was a huge amount of excitement on the market. And in fact, over the six days that we were open for public viewing, we had nearly 4,000 people came to see and lots of excitement on the market, but also among the general public who wanted to see this masterpiece, because things like that do not come up very often.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Most of them are in museums. It was great. This one? Has it gone to a private collector? We are not commenting at this time. So we will see if the buyer would like to make it public. but at the moment it's confidential. If it were my egg, I would gaffer tape it to the wall. Margo Agonnesian from Christy's Auction House. And that's all from us for now,
Starting point is 00:28:31 but there'll be a new edition of the Global News podcast later. If you want to comment on this podcast or the topics covered in it, you can send us an email. The address is global podcast at bbc.co.uk. You can also find us on X at BBC World Service. Use the hashtag Global NewsPod. This edition was mixed by Russell Newlove and the producer was Mickey Bristow.
Starting point is 00:28:57 The editor is Karen Martin. I'm Alex Ritson. Until next time, goodbye.

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