Global News Podcast - Optimism but no deal after Ukraine peace talks

Episode Date: December 29, 2025

Presidents Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky say there's been progress in talks over the Russia-Ukraine war, but difficult issues remain unresolved, including whether Kyiv should give up territory. ...President Trump said they would know in a few weeks whether a deal is possible. Also: China announces fresh war games around Taiwan. It will practise deterring anyone coming to the island's defence. Myanmar's military is desperate for the country's first general election in five years to be a success, but critics say it's a sham. We look at how Pope Leo is making his mark. And the French film actress and sex symbol Bridget Bardot has died. The Global News Podcast brings you the breaking news you need to hear, as it happens. Listen for the latest headlines and current affairs from around the world. Politics, economics, climate, business, technology, health – we cover it all with expert analysis and insight. Get the news that matters, delivered twice a day on weekdays and daily at weekends, plus special bonus episodes reacting to urgent breaking stories. Follow or subscribe now and never miss a moment. Get in touch: globalpodcast@bbc.co.uk

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. Hello, Greg Jenner here, host of Your Dead to Me. In my new family-friendly podcast series, Dead Funny History, historical figures come back to life for just about long enough to argue with me, tell us their life stories and sometimes get on my nerves. There's 15 lovely episodes to unwrap, including the life of Ramsey's the Great, Josephine Baker, and the history of football, plus much, much more.
Starting point is 00:00:25 So, this Christmas, give your ears, a treat with Dead Funny History. You can find it in the You're Dead to Me feed on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the Global News podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Chris Barrow and in the early hours of Monday the 29th of December, these are our main stories. Donald Trump and Volodymy Zelenskyy say that at least 90% has been agreed of the plan to end the war in Ukraine. Taiwan deploys what it calls appropriate forces as China prepares for a major, a military exercise around the island, and Myanmar holds a national election amidst a civil war and accusations that the vote is a sham.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Also in the podcast? She was the traditional sex goddess as a character, but also as a person in real life. She was someone who asserted her own desire. She went after the men she wanted. She takes the lead, if you like. Remembering the French actress Bridget Bardot, who's died at the age of 91. The Ukrainian President Volodymy Zelensky has visited Donald Trump's Maralago property in Florida for face-to-face talks on ending the war with Russia. On the table was a new 20-point plan for peace unveiled by Mr Zelensky last week.
Starting point is 00:01:48 After the meeting, both leaders said that progress had been made, but that talks would continue in the coming weeks. Still, President Trump said that a peace deal was closer than ever before. Our meeting was excellent. We covered somebody would say 95%. I don't know what percent, but we have made a lot of progress on ending that war, which is really certainly the most deadly war since World War II, probably the biggest war since World War II. And for his part, President Zelensky said Ukraine was ready for peace and thanked the U.S. President for a great meeting. We discussed all the aspects of the peace framework which includes and we have great achievements
Starting point is 00:02:27 20 point peace plan, 90% agreed, and U.S.-Ukraine security guarantees 100% agreed. U.S., Europe, Ukraine's security guarantees almost agreed. Military dimension, 100% agree. Well, both leaders claim that the deal is 90 to 95% finished with one or two very thorny issues remaining, to quote President Trump. I asked our reporter, Bern de Vussman, what these are. The key sticking point, according to Trump in particular, seems to be the control over Ukraine's land that is lost
Starting point is 00:02:59 and what territorial concessions they would have to make for the war to end. This is something that Trump, his own position on this has changed quite a few times over the course of the year since he's returned to the White House. At one point, he had suggested that Ukraine might be able to take back all its territory, but now he seems to have shifted course yet again saying that it's a very tough issue that he thinks will get resolved,
Starting point is 00:03:23 but his advice to Ukraine was that they're better off making a deal. And they spoke to European leaders after these bilateral talks. What does Donald Trump think Europe is going to be doing in this kind of peacekeeping role in the territory? Will there be actual troops there in the proposals? President Trump sees Europe as the ones who will do the groundwork and the legwork, as it were, to any potential security guarantees for Ukraine in the future. Now, as part of the 20-point plan, Europe would kind of take the lead in financing and equipping the Ukrainian defense forces. And the U.S. president's been very unequivocal that he does not see a role for U.S. troops on the ground.
Starting point is 00:04:08 There was one moment where he was asked if there was no resolution would the U.S. go in, though. And he kind of went, well, we might do. We're not sure yet. So it's kind of not, nothing really seems fully off the table ever with Donald Trump. Nothing's ever really off the table with this White House, and that's very indicative of how President Trump has carried out foreign policy since returning to the White House in January. He's very fond of saying that he doesn't like people knowing what he's thinking or what he's planning to kind of keep an element of uncertainty there. But one fact is that among many of his supporters here in the United States, any very serious U.S. involvement on the ground in Ukraine might be very, very unpopular. with some of his core supporters. He did, after all, campaign on avoiding foreign entanglements.
Starting point is 00:04:53 And he's been very quick to say, for example, that Ukraine is paying for the weapons that it's getting from the United States rather than them being gifted to them. This is something that some of his MAGA base feels very, very strongly about. The biggest question, I guess, after these talks is, where does Russia stand? Will it agree to the proposal? We know that Donald Trump spoke to Vladimir Putin before meeting Vladimir Zelensky. Do we know what was said in that conversation and if there's any indication that Russia is closer to agreeing some of these points? President Trump had kind of a mixed messaging about that issue in his remarks to the press. On one hand, he said that he spoke to Putin.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Now he believes very strongly that Putin does want peace. This is something he said in the past and he didn't really offer much in the way of evidence tonight. I think one of the sticking points would be that, according to him, Putin and Moscow have no interest. in a ceasefire to allow Ukraine to hold a referendum on some of these, which could be controversial elements of the 20-point plan, he said he understands Moscow's position because stopping and starting the fighting might put them at some sort of military disadvantage. And he was very clear about that, that he understands Moscow's position here. But he did sound, not for the first time, very confident and trustful of President Putin's remarks in their phone call earlier.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Yeah, and he almost, I mean, you could say he's slightly parroting the Russian line there. I mean, is there really any hope with these talks if he is such good friends with Putin, as he keeps saying? Well, I think that is something that will be asked a lot in Kiev and in European capitals today when he said that Putin wants Ukraine to succeed. I think that's something that many Ukrainians and many Europeans will object to quite, quite strongly. He offered, again, no evidence or no proof that Putin does want peace or does. want Ukraine to succeed. I mean, the one kind of specific he gave was that Putin, according to him, is willing to sell energy to Ukraine at a very discounted price in the future should there be a peace between the two. But besides that, he didn't really offer any glimpse into that conversation or what now again leads him to trust Putin after repeatedly expressing skepticism about Putin after previous conversations and fighting continued. Bern de Bussman, and as he mentioned, Ukrainians might be asked to vote in a referendum to approve a deal to end the war.
Starting point is 00:07:19 So what did they make of these latest talks? Our correspondent in Kiev, Samira Hussein, gave us this assessment. I think for so many Ukrainians, they have been here before. They have seen these peace negotiations continue, but no actual deal. I would say that probably the tone of what we've been hearing from President Trump and President Zelensky just now, suggest that they are, in fact, closer and that both seemed quite upbeat. But for Ukrainians, it would certainly mean a possible land deal in which they would have to give up. There would be some territorial concessions. And that's going to be a really hard sell for so many people.
Starting point is 00:08:02 This is a country that has been fighting a war for almost four years and to now say that, well, you're going to have to give up parts of your country. That's not going to be an easy message to take. And Donald Trump said it was potentially, if all went well, a deal could be reached within weeks. Is that feeling amongst the people of Ukraine that it could be weeks or is it still too uncertain to say? I think for so many people, they are just so hopeful for an end to this war. It has been long. It is winter here. It is cold. And Russia has really been concentrating their efforts on the energy infrastructure here in Ukraine. I mean, over. the weekend, we saw this barrage of drone attacks and missiles from Russia hitting
Starting point is 00:08:49 Kiev, the capital, and a lot of their energy infrastructure. And as a result, there are thousands of people that are still without heat or electricity in these cold temperatures. So there's been a concerted effort to make it all just so difficult that people here are war-weary and they do want an end to the war, but not at any cost. Is there much appetite for a referendum because that was discussed as well? It's hard to envision a situation in which the country will have to redraw its lines without getting buy-in from the people who live in the country. And so this idea of a referendum, I think, would be necessary politically for Mr. Zelensky.
Starting point is 00:09:34 But it's hard to see how you can have a referendum without any kind of ceasefire. And that is, of course, another sticking point in these peace negotiations. Samira Hussein. Well, President Trump's attempts to end the conflict between Russia and Ukraine is just one of countless occasions this year that he's thrust himself into the spotlight. Tariffs, targeting drug traffickers, deporting migrants. His policies have affected so much of the world in 2025. And he says he's changing it for the better.
Starting point is 00:10:05 But there's another world leader who has perhaps shown himself to be more able to navigate the complicated international arena and promote his own country's interests without much fanfare. Mickey Bristow looks back at what's been a good year for China's leader Xi Jinping. The world's two most important leaders couldn't have more contrasting styles.
Starting point is 00:10:24 There can be few people who haven't heard of Donald Trump or don't know something of his in-your-face style. He's everywhere. The same cannot be said of Xi Jinping. He exudes to quiet confidence. and seems to weigh up every word he says. He's not known for off-the-cuff statements. As opposed to Mr. Trump, he appears thoroughly uninteresting,
Starting point is 00:10:50 like a very measured diplomat. Part of his confidence comes from experience. He's led his country for more than a decade, and with no presidential elections in China, Mr. Xi doesn't have to appeal to a fickle public. A Chinese president was one of the few world leaders this year to resist Mr. Trump's tariffs. China imposed its own duties on American goods
Starting point is 00:11:12 and introduced restrictions on the sale of rare earths, vital metals used in a multitude of products. Mr Trump was eventually forced to back down. The two leaders met in South Korea in October. Well, thank you very much. It's a great honor to be with a friend of mine, really for a long time now, if you think about it. Afterwards, Mr. Trump was upbeat.
Starting point is 00:11:34 He said the meeting had been amazing, 12 out of 10. But the talks also seemed to lay the groundwork for subsequent deals that Beijing will be happy about over TikTok and US chip sales to China. At home, Mr. Xi has so far avoided any major blowback from a flag in economy. Internationally, he's held his own. The US regularly berates Beijing for supporting Russia's war in Ukraine. But Xi Jinping has ignored US criticism
Starting point is 00:12:01 and continues to show very public support for Vladimir Putin. Mr. Xi appears to believe the US president is presiding, over a waning power and is positioning China to fill the void. In this video from Chinese state-controlled media, Mr. Xi says the world is at a pivotal moment in history. China's rejuvenation, he says, is irresistible. Unlike Mr. Trump, there's no limit on how many years he can serve, so he might still be around to see that prediction fulfilled. Mickey Bristow, and staying with China, the country has a announced it will conduct a major military exercise around Taiwan, the self-governing island
Starting point is 00:12:44 that Beijing considers its own territory. The Chinese army, navy, air force and rocket force will be involved. The Chinese military will practice blockading Taiwanese ports and deterring outside military intervention. Japan recently said it might get involved if China tried to retake Taiwan by force. These exercises will include live-fire drills. Taiwan's president, Lai Ching-Dur, said the manoeuvres were a provocation, adding that the island's own military would monitor the exercise. Our correspondent in Beijing is Stephen MacDonald. I asked him what China is trying to achieve. There are two things, really. One is a military objective and the other is a political one. If you look at the military objective, it's quite simple, and they've been practicing this in all these recent drills.
Starting point is 00:13:29 You surround Taiwan, and you can see it by the maps that are released by the People's Liberation Army, these zones, and that's to practice blockading the island, but also it's a dress rehearsal for invading the island from all sides as well and overwhelming Taiwan's military in that way. The political objective, I suppose, is to try to convince not only the people in Taiwan but the rest of the world that Taiwan's unification with mainland China is somehow inevitable. It might not happen next year or the year after,
Starting point is 00:14:05 but it is going to eventually happen and thereby somehow other watered down resistance to this concept. The problem, of course, is that people in Taiwan have shown time and again, whether it be opinion polls or election results, that they don't want this. They don't want to give up their free lifestyle with independent judiciary, with free media and what have you, and be governed by Beijing.
Starting point is 00:14:28 They would prefer the status quo. And Beijing, on the other hand, considers this to be a rogue province, that just by a kind of accident of history after the end of the civil war became this island operating beyond its control and there's the rub really and so it's what this is all about but in terms of the military
Starting point is 00:14:49 it's also I suppose to try to scare people in Taiwan you just have to look at the propaganda that's been released in conjunction with these drills this image of a shield with the PLA saying that anyone who comes in contact with this shield will be annihilated. So the idea being you can't resist us if we really want to take the island by force. And it's not just blockading the ports.
Starting point is 00:15:15 They've actually said about this drill particularly, that it's preventing others coming to help, like Japan, which I mentioned. I mean, is that an escalation in terms of talking about these drills? Well, it seems to be the first time it's been publicly mentioned, and I suppose in that way you might call it an escalation. but you do get those messages anyway from the Chinese government. It's not clear, though, from that language, whether they're talking about we're going to use these drills to actually dress rehearse a military response should other countries
Starting point is 00:15:50 like the US or Japan or their allies try to get involved, or are they trying to say that by just having these drills, we will discourage anyone from becoming involved and achieving the result in that way. Either way, it has increased tensions in the region. Stephen MacDonald. Still to come in this podcast, a look back at 2025 at the Vatican. He's dealing with the problem of coming after Francis was incredibly charismatic, with an instantaneous connection with the people. We hear how Pope Leo has adjusted to his role as head of the captain.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Catholic Church. Hello, Greg Jenner here, host of your dead to me. In my new family-friendly podcast series, Dead Funny History, historical figures come back to life for just about long enough to argue with me, tell us their life stories, and sometimes get on my nerves. There's 15 lovely episodes to unwrap, including the life of Ramsey's the Great, Josephine Baker, and the history of football, plus much, much more. So, this Christmas, give your ears, a tree.
Starting point is 00:17:03 with dead funny history. You can find it in the Your Dead to Me feed on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. The first phase of an election that's been widely condemned as a sham has taken place in Myanmar. It's the first vote since the army overthrew the government of Aung San Suu Kyi nearly five years ago, and it's taking place despite the fact that the country is in the grip of a civil war. Thousands of people have been killed and millions forced from their homes. most of the candidates allowed to take part in the election have links to the military. Our correspondent Jonathan Head reports from the city of Mandalay. For the people of Myanmar, a chance to vote, yet with no real choice.
Starting point is 00:17:52 New electronic voting machines ensure the process goes smoothly, yet everyone casting their ballot at this Mandalay polling station knows their vote won't change who runs the country. With Aung San Suu Kyi still jailed and her party dissolved, only one party can win this election, the military zone, USDP, yet there is little enthusiasm for it. At this rally, the local candidate, an army man, of course, General Teza Jor, promised better times ahead. But the crowd they'd brought in could hardly keep their eyes open. I asked him whether the military accepted responsibility for the disastrous events since the coup.
Starting point is 00:18:42 It's they who want to destroy this country with violence, he said, referring to the armed resistance which rose up to fight the coup. It's our job to prevent them. Those who are with the enemy, he said, are not the people. They're just terrorists. He was unapologetic about the bombing of schools and hospitals. The climate of fear hangs over this election. Everywhere we went, people were too frightened to express any opinion.
Starting point is 00:19:11 I will vote, said this vendor, but not with my heart. They have good reason for caution. More than 200 have been arrested just for criticising the poll. Some were given sentences of more than 40 years. One woman was brave enough to speak openly to us, but on condition we concealed her identity. This election is a lie, she told me. Everyone is afraid.
Starting point is 00:19:41 We have lost our freedom. On the other side of the Irawari River from Mandalay. Villages are still under the control of armed insurgents, known as PDFs, loyal to the ousted democratic government. And they are still being bombed by the Air Force. force. Travel there is difficult. We tried to reach a famous temple complex, but were held up at a government-controlled village while they discussed whether we could go on. So we've just stopped in this rather spacious tea house and this police officer. He's been checking our documents,
Starting point is 00:20:18 but he's also giving us a rundown of the security in the area. We're two very young-looking men who've just walked in with automatic weapons sitting down having a cup of tea. He says they're volunteers from the village. He said there's been a lot of fighting. His job was difficult, he said. Everyone here has taken sides. No one is ready to compromise. He goes everywhere, armed. The next village was controlled by the armed resistance. They would shoot me if they saw me, he said. In the end, he decided it was too unsafe for us to reach the temples. Mandalay has always been a stronghold of support for Ansan Suu Kyi, the scene of multiple protests against the coup until those were brutally crushed.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Today it feels sullen and beaten, an unhappy backdrop for an election which promises only more military rule. Jonathan haired with that report from Myanmar. France's culture minister has paid tribute to the actress Bridget Bardot, died at the age of 91, saying she was a legend who helped shape our imaginations wildly free and so French. She was a superstar of 50s and 60s French cinema, playing characters with hedonistic lifestyles, which led to fans and intellectuals alike, revering her as a sex symbol. The French feminist philosopher Simone de Beauvoir even declared her to be the most liberated woman of post-war France. In her later years, she made headlines
Starting point is 00:21:50 for her controversial political views and was fined multiple times for inciting racial hatred with some of her public comments. So what made Bridget Bardot the archetype of the modern sexual icon? Jeanette Van Sondot is Emeritus Professor in Film Studies at King's College London and has been speaking to my colleague Kruppi. On the one hand, she was the traditional sex goddess, a very sexualised image on screen with everything designed to show off her figure, to really enhance the eroticism of her presence on screen. And at the same time, She was someone who, as a character, but also as a person in real life, and the two became really blurred. She was someone who asserted her own desire. She went after the
Starting point is 00:22:37 men she wanted. She had a subjectivity as a character. So most sex icons of the period, and I think including Marilyn Monroe, who was in some ways a model for Bardot, was always presented as somebody who reacted to male desire. And I think Bardot is very different. She takes the lead, if you like. And in saying that, I'm also saying what Simon de Beauvoir said. She wrote a text about Baudu in 1959 and she said, in the game of love, she's the hunter as much as the prey. And I think that really sums up the unusualness, but also the modernity of her figure at the time. It almost sounds like she was a symbol of empowerment for women at the time, but equally, that image of hers drew in the male gaze. Absolutely, yes. And she was extremely
Starting point is 00:23:24 beautiful. She's really projected sexuality on screen in a very powerful way, but had something else and something different. And I think that's why she had such an impact on culture at the time, both in France and outside France. That film, God Created Woman in 1956, caused enormous scandal at the time. And I think that the violence of the reaction she provoked is also testimony to the fact that she was such a transgressive figure. Let's talk about the later chapters of her life. She later publicly defended the disgrace actor Gerard de Pardieu and pushed back at the Me Too movement.
Starting point is 00:24:06 How important is it for us to re-evaluate her as a figure of feminist rebellion, do you think? Well, I think one should not re-evaluate her in that first part of her life. We have to remember that Bardo stopped acting in 1973. And so to me, there are really two Bardoes. There's Bardo the film star. And then there's Bardo Sins who devoted herself to animal welfare and so on.
Starting point is 00:24:33 She also is somebody who always spoke her mind. She came from a very privileged background. She felt quite entitled to say what she thought. And I think that's something that is carried on. And that's one way of looking at it. I think the other way is that she liked to provoke. But to me, what she's saying about Gerard de Pard. Cardieu and about me to, to some extent, it's a generational position that as an older
Starting point is 00:24:57 woman, she clearly does not understand what is happening today. And I think that one can be very critical of that. But I don't think one should read her earlier career in the light of these remarks, because, you know, these were different times. It would be anachronistic to want her to adopt current feminist position way back in the 1950s and 1960s. Francisco's Nick Kirios has won a so-called Battle of the Sexes tennis match against the Women's World No. 1 Arena Sabalenko, taking victory in straight sets in the best of three contest. The match in Dubai was played with modified rules. There was a smaller court for Sabalenko and both players only had one attempt at a serve per point. Our sports correspondent Natalie
Starting point is 00:25:43 Perks was watching. All I do it, it is Kirios, who emerged is victorious. 6-3, 6-6-3. She's the biggest name in women's tennis, a four-time Grand Slam champion, but in a result that surprised no one. The injury hit, world number 671, Nick Kirios, claimed victory over the world number one in straight sets. Speaking after the match, Kirios praised Arena Sabalenko's performance. Look, considering I took away one of her strengths, her first serve,
Starting point is 00:26:14 she's an amazing athlete, and honestly, she was right there. Honestly, it could have gone either way. I'm not even joking. I wouldn't call myself the chairman tonight. I think seeing someone as great as Arena, out here and myself, I think it truly is a spectacle, and I think this is a great stepping stone forward for the sport of tennis. Sabelanka had arrived for the match in a crystal-encrusted coat, dancing to why of the tiger.
Starting point is 00:26:34 It was more akin to a ringwalk than a tennis match. The 1973 Battle of the Sexes between Bobby Riggs and Billy Jean King was a genuine catalyst for change in sport and society. This was nothing more than entertainment in front of a sellout, celebrity-filled crowd in Dubai. Nick Kiryos appeared to be feeling the effects of only having played six times in three years his t-shirt drenched in sweat. But whilst there were glimpses of Sabalenko's power throughout, several mistakes from the female number one, coupled with Kirios' superior power,
Starting point is 00:27:07 meant it was over in two sets. Sabalenko had said this match would help bring women's tennis to a higher level. That is up for debate, though it will have certainly elevated both their bank balances. Natalie Perks. Now back in May, much of the world was transfixed as Catholic cardinals converged on the Vatican and began their mysterious conclave locked behind the giant doors of the Sistine Chapel to elect a new Pope following a series of rituals that are centuries old. The result, though, was something new, the first North American Pope. Conservative Catholics in the US initially welcomed Leo the 14th as an ally as he reinstated a number of traditions cast out by his predecessor Francis.
Starting point is 00:27:49 But he's since begun voicing his concern about US policy, especially on migration, as well as the rising tensions with Venezuela. He also recently appointed a new Archbishop of New York, replacing a man close to Donald Trump. Sarah Rainsford reports from Rome on how the new head of the Catholic Church is making his mark. On his first Christmas, Leo XIV, restored a tradition. Beneath the giant dome of St. Peter's Basilica, he led the main Christmas Mass.
Starting point is 00:28:31 That's something no Pope was done in decades. But Leo himself is a novelty, the first ever North American in the role, and after the high drama of the conclave this spring, the baseball fan from Chicago is starting to give a sense of his priorities for the papacy. He's dealing with the problem of coming after Francis was incredibly charismatic with an instantaneous connection with the people. Professor Massimo Fajoli of Trinity College Dublin sees Leo as cautious. But he has already signalled to powerful conservative Catholics in his home country,
Starting point is 00:29:10 those close to Donald Trump, that he won't be their man in the Vatican. Immediately after the election of Leo, we saw the... the attempt of right-to-wing Catholics in America to say Pop Leo liberated us from Pope Francis, from our nightmare. Poplillo is the anti-Francis. That's not true. I mean, when it's about key issues like immigration or what it means for a Catholic to be pro-life, there is no significant difference. May through the power of the Holy Spirit be among us. All the way up the cobblestone Avenue.
Starting point is 00:29:48 leading to St. Peter's. All year long, there's been processions of pilgrims following wooden crosses. I'm curious how much of a hit for these people. Hopefully, it has been. His personality seems a bit colder, more detached from us. But I also think he's improving in Italian. So I think I need to get used to it.
Starting point is 00:30:15 But yes, I like him so far. Do many people buy the Pope Leo merchandise? Is he popular? Yes. Now it's very popular because we can sell rosary, like magnets. Yeah, very important because it's only here. Too much people, you know. I'm sorry for my bad English.
Starting point is 00:30:36 No, it's perfect. It's perfect. So the end of this year you can relax a bit. We hope. We hope. Leo believes in relaxation too. Every Tuesday, he takes the day off and heads to a papal property outside Rome.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Most people think that he's going there because they've got a tennis court. There's been no official word on that, but I can't think. You could be slumped on the sofa watching Netflix. I doubt he's watching Netflix on the sofa. He could do that here in Rome. The only reason to go there is because they've got a covered tennis court. Those days in the country produced another novelty. Because when the Pope's ready to leave Castel Gandolfo for Rome,
Starting point is 00:31:10 journalists gather and pepper him with questions. He's addressed everything from migration to the US bombing of Venezuelan ships and to war in the Middle East and Ukraine. No army, but a very influential voice, one it seems Leo the 14th is now finding and increasingly ready to use. That was Sarah Rainsford. And that's all from us for now. There'll be a new edition of the Global News podcast later on.
Starting point is 00:31:43 If you'd like to comment on the podcast and the topics we cover, do send us an email. Our address is Global Podcast at BBC.co.uk. You can also find us on X at BBC World Service and you can use the hashtag Global News Pod. This edition was mixed by Chris O'Blackqua. It was produced by Peter Goughin. The editor is Karen Martin. I'm Chris Barrow. And until next time, goodbye. In my new family-friendly podcast series, Dead Funny History, historical figures come back to life for just about long enough to argue with me, tell us their life stories, and sometimes get on my nerves. There's 15 lovely episodes to unwrap, including the life of Ramsey's the Great, Josephine Baker, and The History of Football, plus much, much more.
Starting point is 00:32:33 So, this Christmas, give your ears a treat with Dead Funny History. You can find it in the Your Dead to Me feed on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.

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