Global News Podcast - The Happy Pod: My best friend had my baby

Episode Date: December 6, 2025

We hear about an extraordinary story of love, friendship and a teenage promise fulfilled over a decade later. When Georgia Barrington was told, at the age of 15, that she'd been born without a womb, s...he thought her dreams of having a baby were over. So her best friend, Daisy Hope, promised she would one day act as her surrogate. Years later, after having her daughter, she reminded her friend of that offer -- and a few weeks ago gave birth to Georgia's baby girl. The women say it's given them a bond like no other. Also: how the traditionally male world of yodelling is being given a modern, feminist twist. Switzerland's new yodel choirs aim to bring people from all backgrounds together and connect them through song. The world-famous Chinese pianist, Lang Lang, talks about the healing power of music. His charitable foundation runs concerts and creative workshops for children struggling with physical or mental health issues or grief. We find out about how one winner of this year's Earthshot prizes is bringing education to women living on some of Bangladesh's most fragile islands. Plus: a statue honouring the true impact of pregnancy and childbirth on women's bodies; the man bringing the stress-busting sights and sounds of nature to tens of thousands of people around the world; and the young owl rescued from a cement mixer.Our weekly collection of inspiring, uplifting and happy news from around the world.Presenter: Ankur Desai. Music composed by Iona Hampson

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. This is the happy pod from the BBC World Service. Hi, I'm Uncle Desai and in this edition. I knew that there is no way that I would have two children and Georgia wouldn't have any. I just feel so lucky. And every time I look at her, I just, yeah, I'm so grateful. If you can do an act of kindness that really changes someone life, then you should do it if you can.
Starting point is 00:00:27 How an extraordinary teenage promise resulted in a woman having a baby for her best friend. The world-renowned pianist Lang Lang on spreading the healing power of music. We've been very lucky to work with many kids around the world. And somehow music is really the best medicine. A new statue designed to celebrate the realities of pregnancy and childbirth. The small owl that had a lucky escape after getting stuck in a cement mixer. Plus the young feminists putting their own spin on an ancient alpine tradition. You're listening to the Happy Pot on the BBC World Service.
Starting point is 00:01:11 We start with a story of love, friendship and an extraordinary teenage promise. Georgia Barrington was just 15 when she learned she'd been born with ovaries but no one. womb, a rare condition called Maya Rakitanski Kusta Hauser Syndrome, or M.R.K.H. So her best friend, Daisy Hope, promised that she would carry her baby for her when they were older. Despite her heartbreak, Georgia continued with her dream of becoming a midwife. And after delivering Daisy's baby, her friend became her surrogate and gave birth a few weeks ago. They've been speaking to Emma Barnett, starting with the day the GP broke the news to Georgia. At the time, she may as well have just said to me, you will never have children.
Starting point is 00:01:56 I remember that's all what I felt like I heard. It was devastating. It felt like my whole world fell apart in that room, to be honest. I'm sorry. I always knew that being a mum was something I wanted, and it just felt like everything that I'd ever dreamed of. It was gone. I think I kind of shut down a bit.
Starting point is 00:02:16 So I think Daisy reached out to me, having heard it through our dads, really. I think me being the person I was, just wanted Georgia to feel okay. and the best way for me to do that was to give her some hope that it wasn't the end of the world because I knew that that was probably how she was feeling. What did you actually offer? What did you say? So I would have said, I don't worry, I can carry for you,
Starting point is 00:02:39 I'll have a baby for you. It was always in my mind something that I knew I would do for Georgia. It didn't really go any bigger than that in my brain because it was never mentioned again. And Georgia, what's your memory of when this was said when you were much younger? I think it was such a big thing for me to take in. I don't think I was really taking in anything that anyone were saying to me.
Starting point is 00:02:58 I wouldn't have suddenly been like, right, that's it. Let's get things planned. Do you know what I mean? I think I'd just... I think at this age, it's... You would understand how genuine that is. But I think at 15, although I knew it was a promise, George wouldn't have seen it like that.
Starting point is 00:03:12 It would have been my friends trying to make me feel better. You know, I'll be honest. No reference to any of my wonderful friends listening. I don't think I would say that. You know, it is an extraordinary thing. Yeah. And you do have a baby now. Congratulations on being a mummy.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Thank you. How did that process begin that you would make good on that promise? What happened after having your daughter? So I went through obviously becoming a mum with Amelia. George delivered her, so we were in that beautiful moment together. She was God mum. And I knew the love I felt for Amelia in that moment and then the weeks that came after,
Starting point is 00:03:45 I only felt happiness and love looking at Amelia and was like, I just knew that I wanted to be able to do that for George. And I said to George, you know, the officer, still stands I will carry for you if that's something you want to look into. And what was your response to that? I think it felt a bit more real then and because of being a midwife,
Starting point is 00:04:05 I know all of the things that could go wrong. I remember saying to you, no, I want you to finish your family before you think about doing anything like that for me because if something was to happen during the delivery or the pregnancy and you couldn't have any more children if that's what you wanted, that was something that weighed really heavy on me. But Daisy kind of said, no, I'd rather
Starting point is 00:04:23 us both have one than me have two and you have none. Which is extraordinary. I just, it's really hard to explain but I was so lucky and I am so lucky to have Amelia and she was the one thing in my life
Starting point is 00:04:37 other than Ollie that came and like completely just opened up this whole new world for me of how amazing life can be and I knew Georgia deserved that and I knew Georgia would be the most incredible mum and I knew that there is no way in this timeline of my life that I would
Starting point is 00:04:53 have two children and Georgia wouldn't have any. The birth. Talk to me about the birth. You've got a midwife, but you're not at work. No. But did you deliver your own baby? To be honest, she didn't actually need delivering because she shut out onto the bed. It was such a roller coaster.
Starting point is 00:05:07 It was the most magical, intense, scary, wonderful. Yeah. And then that moment of you telling us it was a girl. She said, it's a girl, George. It was just magical, yeah. And we were both like, yeah, everyone. I mean, as soon as I saw her head, like when Daisy was pushing. I absolutely lost it, which meant Claire, who was our midwife, lost it. So she probably
Starting point is 00:05:28 couldn't see really what she was doing. I said, stop crying. If I start crying, there's no chance I'm getting this baby out. And my partner kind of just sat scared but excited at the corner. We were all there though. My partner was there. Yeah, to have all of us there. It was just amazing. I mean, you are very newly a mum because of your best friend. I just feel so lucky. You know, I wish I could picture this and give it to that 15-year-old meet. sat in that GP surgery because now even though I see and I think oh it would be lovely to be pregnant I would not change this like no one else will ever have what we have had I just feel so lucky and every time I look at her I just yeah I'm so grateful doing this having fulfilled
Starting point is 00:06:11 the mission is I mean is that how it feels a bit is there sort of a sense of purpose about it yeah I feel like my purpose is complete like that's genuinely like because I've done this wonderful thing and it's the first time in my entire life other than having amelia that I feel so proud of myself and I'm so pleased that I am a strong person and I could get through it and I did it for my friend and that's like the best thing I will ever achieve I think I feel really lucky to have gone home to my beautiful family myself and I feel so lucky to get to look at my best friend's beautiful family and I think that's just the wonderful thing if you can do that for someone or if you can do an act of kindness that you know really changes someone life then you should do it
Starting point is 00:06:52 if you can. Such a lovely heartwarming story. Daisy Hope and Georgia Barrington. Now, the alpine tradition of yodling has long been dominated by men, whether as a centuries-old form of communication between herders, or more recently, a social activity with men
Starting point is 00:07:08 gathering to belt-out vocals from the hilltops with their friends. Lyrics, when there were any, often portrayed an idyllic life in the mountains, surrounded by nature. With the men in charge and the women presented as naive girls, self-sacrificing mothers or nagging wives.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Fast forward to Now and Gen Z feminists are taking on that tradition, forming choirs across Switzerland and yodling their own way. Anna Kulberna is 26 and part of the Yutz Youth Choir. She told Stephanie Prentice how and why she yodels in the modern way. It's a special technique of singing. It's not like classical or pop singing. You sing a bit different. Could you tell me a little bit about how that works? How do you do it? So you have like your breast voice that sounds like y'al la la. And you have like your head voice that is like a bit higher. And if you switch between these two voices, you get this really, really fine crack. You get like,
Starting point is 00:08:17 And that's the thing that we call yodeling. So, Anna, you're part of a youth choir with lots of women in it. Why is yodeling so important to you both as a performer but also as a feminist? So there's some regions where there are more, more female voices who yodel. But here in the east of Switzerland, until today it's more a man tradition. but yodling is just like a natural singing that really comes directly from the heart and it can connect so many people together because you can sing together if you don't really know what you're singing and you don't have to read notes you can like go with your ear and hear
Starting point is 00:09:03 what the others do and you can just connect so i think yodling is a really good thing to bring people together i think it should be living from all all the people who live here, and not only old men or whatever. So some traditional songs that you would sing when you were yodeling, some of the lyrics perhaps have been regarded as maybe a bit sexist about nagging wives, mistresses, things like that. Yeah. Can you tell me a bit about how you change the lyrics to make it more modern
Starting point is 00:09:37 and to make it more applicable for women? Yeah. So sometimes they're a bit, you can see them critical, the lyrics. We really try to pick lyrics and songs that we are agree with the text. So I don't like to change things that are composed like this, but if it's important to do, so sometimes we change lyrics. But I think as long as we really respect to the tradition, also the other people will respect what we do.
Starting point is 00:10:09 When you have young women that come and join your choir and they get into yodeling and they join in with the group, What kind of things do they say to you about how they feel? Everyone who came into our choir was so, couldn't imagine before what it could be in this choir, but now they were so happy because they found out that there is a new style of singing and such a style that brings people together because they didn't know that it's so nice to be in a yodel choir before. I just want as many people as possible to go into this yodeling and that they also feel.
Starting point is 00:10:45 feel what it can do with them when we just can connect through singing. Now, our next story is an unusual rescue tale. It's about an owl who fell into a concrete mixer in Utah in the United States and still survived. The happy pods of Vanessa Heaney can tell us more. A great horned owl lies unconscious on the operating table at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in Cannab as three vets work to save its life. Oxygen is pumped into a clear mask covering the beak.
Starting point is 00:11:17 No one knows how the bird believed to be a young male got into trouble. The owl came to us through a phone call from the Department of Wildlife Resources who picked up the owl from someone who found it in a concrete mixer at a construction site. Bart Rishwalski is a supervisor at the sanctuary. When we got the owl back to our rehab center, we found that he was quite covered in dried concrete, and it was primarily on his right side, but for the most part, his entire body had some concrete within it.
Starting point is 00:11:50 It's the first time they've seen something like this. The team quickly came up with a plan to help the owl in the least invasive way possible. Under anesthesia, they gave him short daily baths. We initially started by taking hemostats and forceps and crushing the bigger pieces of concrete very gently and then using our fingertips to crumble away the smaller pieces. and then after each session, which lasts about 20 minutes,
Starting point is 00:12:16 we would bathe him in donned dish soap and water and rinse him and dry him thoroughly. The painstaking treatment worked. Two weeks later, the owl was able to fly. Because the concrete affected the feathers, he makes a whooshing sound when he flies. That means he'd have trouble getting food in the wild if he was released now as he wouldn't be able to sneak up on his prey. So he still has a way to go,
Starting point is 00:12:38 but Bart says they're hoping to release him back into his natural habitat. in a few months. So the long-term prognosis for this guy looks really good. We do need to wait until he melts and gets in healthier feathers so he can fly silently. But we expect that to happen late next spring, early summer. Bart Rishwalski from the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in Utah, ending that report from Vanessa Heaney. Coming up in this podcast, the man bringing the stress-busting power of nature to to tens of thousands of people online. A lot of my followers are older.
Starting point is 00:13:15 One of the biggest things I find joy in is taking these videos and those people being able to see them and enjoy them. And they're always saying how grateful they are. How do you have future proof of business when you can't predict what's coming next
Starting point is 00:13:39 and change is taking place at break next I'm Chip Klinexel, host of Resilient Edge, a business vitality podcast Hayden presented by Deloitte. Decision making nowadays, I would say, is much, much harder than it was maybe 10, 15, 20 years ago. Jan Gilg from SAP sees it everywhere, the complexity, the pressure, the stakes. Here's what I discovered about transformation. The companies that will thrive aren't trying to predict the future. They're building something more powerful. The way we create value has evolved. It used to be around how to, how do we, we create more efficient and more standardized processes?
Starting point is 00:14:14 Now it's about how do we use AI in a more meaningful way to do that. How does data play a huge role in enabling AI to create value? Vadi Narasem Hamurdi from Deloitte has watched this evolution across hundreds of transformations. The rules of business are being rewritten in real time. It's almost like a digital brain for your business. So we really talk about autonomous business processes rather than just automating business processes. That's not just clever technology.
Starting point is 00:14:41 It's a fundamental reimagining of how business works. We have a whole framework around original value. You're investing a lot of money in this transformation journey. You really want to understand how to plan it. Futureproofing is about connecting your strategic vision and the value you actually deliver. So how do winning companies stay focused while everything shifts around them?
Starting point is 00:15:01 Find out by listening to NT plus OPE equals EOP, the first episode of Resilient Edge, wherever you get your podcast. You'll have to listen if you want to find out what NT plus op equals the EOP means, it'll be life-changing. I promise. It's 5.23 p.m. One of your kids is asking for a snack. Another is building a fort out of your clean laundry, and you're staring at a half-empty fridge and thinking, what are we even going to eat tonight? Or you could just hello-fresh it. With over 80 recipes to choose from every week, including kid-friendly ones, even for picky eaters, you'll get fresh ingredients and easy step-by-step
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Starting point is 00:16:27 and before her, Princess Diana and Princess Anne have given birth to royal babies. And ours later, tradition is they pose with their newborn on the steps. But that image of an Immaculately presented mother and child is a world away from many women's experience of childbirth. Our reporter will chalk has been finding out about a piece of public art designed to address that imbalance. She's called Mother Verite. She's a seven-foot-tall sculpture made of bronze depicting a woman wearing only a pair of disposable postpartum underwear over a still swollen belly, cradling a newborn child to her breast. The bodies of more than 40 real new mothers were scanned to create the figure and the very first place she was put on display
Starting point is 00:17:09 was here at the lindo wing. Her message isn't lost on the mothers I speak to. I love to see a real woman because we're not all skinny, flashing back to our own body as soon as we pop the baby out now. So that gives that reality as a comfort blanket that I'm allowed to take my time.
Starting point is 00:17:28 It's a good thing because it gives people more understanding of what women go through and having to get up and walk, especially after a C-section. You're expected to get up and feed your baby when you have gone through a huge abdominal surgery. Finally, we're understood. So this will be a game changer. After being unveiled here, the sculpture is touring art fairs
Starting point is 00:17:51 before finding a permanent home back in London. Her creator, Raven Shillia de Clark, told me she wanted to show the beauty in what can sometimes be portrayed as the ugly side of pregnancy and made a conscious effort to include things such as cellulite. Recognising how much will. women's bodies changed throughout the postpartum period and throughout pregnancy as well. I think it was important to reframe a lot of the kind of the visible nature of cellulite within this context.
Starting point is 00:18:18 You know, we see it in terms of when we're thinking about how we shame women for their bodies and what that means in terms of, you know, snapback culture. But for us, it was really about inverting that. And it's nothing to be ashamed of. And particularly within this context, you know, it is a moment of beauty. It's a moment of transformation. Research in 2021 found only 4% of London statues are of women. That's fewer than are of animals.
Starting point is 00:18:39 The vast majority, too, show white people. Raven told me she designed Mother Verite to be racially ambiguous, so as many women can relate to her as possible. Still, the women of colour I've spoken to here, like Blandine, say they can see themselves in the statue. And it means a lot. I like it because it's a black lady giving birth. We have to have more, because women are doing a lot,
Starting point is 00:19:02 and we are the one who are giving birth. We are the one who working hard. Even you work eight hours into office and coming back at home, you need to work again. So I think we need to be value more. Next, in Bangladesh, around 6 million people live on River Islands known as Chars, which are formed from sediment and provide fertile land for growing crops. But they're often prone to erosion and flooding, so their inhabitants have to keep moving and can struggle to access services.
Starting point is 00:19:31 One organisation called Friendship is trying to change that, providing healthcare education and help adapting to climate change. Last month, it was among the winners of a $1.3 million earth shop prize set up by Prince William to recognise innovative solutions to environmental and climate issues. Claire Bates has been finding out about one of their projects bringing education to women on these fragile river islands. Groups of around 20 women are taught by a teacher at a learning centre. This is usually a spare tin roof building in the area. It's difficult to find qualified teachers in this remote region
Starting point is 00:20:06 so friendship accepts women who've attended school up to the age of 13 and then provides them with extra training. We don't have a permanent structure to take our classes in, So we rent a room in a house in the village for a year. The room has to be big enough to fit 20 students. We start with the basics, introducing them to the alphabet. We have a flip chart with lots of pictures on it from daily life to help them learn. From there we teach them words and then sentences.
Starting point is 00:20:51 They learn to read first and then to write. You have no value in society without education. There are lots of social. issues like child marriage and domestic violence, and education therefore is important to give you knowledge about your rights. Floods are pretty common in the area, so if there is one, Shabna splits her students into small groups and then visits them separately in turn. One of her current students is Rashida, who has been attending classes for two months. My parents never sent me to school and I've suffered from not being able to read and write. My children were embarrassed that I was
Starting point is 00:21:31 illiterate. I couldn't even do basic accounting. Until now, I've had to use my fingerprint as a signature as I was illiterate. But now I can sign my name because I can read and write the alphabet, and I'll also be able to keep an account of my expenses. No one can cheat me anymore. Jehura recently graduated from the class. When I go and buy something on the market, I can read whatever is on the packet, or if there's a slip or a receipt, I can read that as well. Students like Jehura, who complete the course, are then offered more training. I learned how to buy livestock, real livestock, how to keep livestock, how to take care of them.
Starting point is 00:22:16 That has helped me tremendously. I now have three cows and two goats and generate my own income. That report was by Claire Bates, and you can hear more on people fixing the world wherever you get your BBC podcasts. Do you hear jingle bells in the distance? In many countries, the festive season is creeping closer. That means sparkling lights, cozy traditions, and for a lot of us, a mountain of stress. So if you need a break from it all,
Starting point is 00:22:42 the soothing sights and sounds of nature could help. And if you can't get out and about for yourself, one man in Oregon in the US is bringing the wilderness online to help others explore, unwind, and find inspiration, as Riley Farrell reports. Imagine you're scrolling on social media. Like and subscribe. And suddenly, the chaos of your feed disappears.
Starting point is 00:23:06 You're transported to a world of rushing waterfalls, babbling brooks, and grand evergreens. Filmmaker Matt Swack has provided that escape for over 200,000 followers. His viral videos of the Pacific Northwest's natural beauty have become a digital sanctuary, according to his viewers. So I spoke to Matt about why he believes that nature belongs in our timelines. You can shoot real life beautiful things and still grow. You don't have to shoot just, you know, horrible news and things that cause drama. When I go
Starting point is 00:23:42 on my feet, all I see is nature stuff. So I hear a lot about all this horrible stuff on social media, but luckily I don't really see much of it. I'm very glad that I'm helping shift the scale a little bit because these are crazy times and there are a lot of people that just doomscroll. How'd you get started with posting nature videos? The first one I ever shot, I went out to a river about 15 or 20 minutes from here, right after like a fresh snowfall. It was, I hiked through like three feet of snow, like powder to this like river bend. And I was there and I didn't really plan on taking any videos or photos.
Starting point is 00:24:22 But I was like, man, this is one of the most beautiful things sort of seeing. Like the river was blue and you have the white snow. and the blue sky, and it was just incredible. And so I just took this kind of simple pan, or just kind of paned from the snow over to the river. And so I posted it on Instagram, like, later that day. That one little video kind of sparked my interest in doing it more. I was like, well, I love shooting this stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:44 And if people enjoy it, then that's kind of great to be able to, you know, show it to people and have them appreciate it. How has spending so much time outdoors impacted your own mental health? And what do you hear from your audience about there? It's kind of crazy every single time I arrive at a place and you get out and you're in the fresh air and especially when you arrive like, say, at a waterfall or something. There's this natural energy that happens. I mean, I just completely am awake. I don't need any energy drinks.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I don't know what it is. I mean, they say scientifically, you know, there's like these ions that are created from the water crashing. That gives you energy and kind of like a good, healthy energy. It's kind of this amazing feeling. A lot of my followers are older. They're at the point where they can't hike anymore. One of the biggest things I find joy in is taking these videos and those people being able to see them and enjoy them. And they're always saying how grateful they are to be able to sit at home and see these videos of places maybe they even have been,
Starting point is 00:25:41 but they don't, you know, get to go there anymore. And with that, let's close out with the soothing sounds of the Pacific Northwest. Wherever you are, take a breath. The very chilled out Riley Farrell there. Now from the power of nature to the power of music. The Chinese musician Lang Lang is widely regarded as one of the world's greatest living pianists and he's sharing the joy and healing benefits he finds in music with concerts and creative workshops for children struggling with physical or mental health issues or grief.
Starting point is 00:26:15 They're part of a project called Music Heels run by the Lang Lang Lang Foundation, which aims to bring light to children and families when they need it most. He's been speaking to and playing for my colleague Amurajan. We've been very lucky to work with many kids around the world who's having some sort of problems. And somehow music is really the best medicine in the way. Especially for kids who's having autism. For example, I had many students, sick or seven students.
Starting point is 00:26:56 students. They weren't talking to anybody. They were just lucking themselves into some place. And then when they start playing piano, everything changes. And now I have one of my students who's completely beautiful. I mean, and he's like talking to everyone. He's now teaching piano. What do you think makes a good piano teacher? A good piano teacher has to really listen to what the students need and to really open their heart and try to inspire them to play with the genuine heart and also to play with joy. And very often you practice so much, then you become a machine.
Starting point is 00:27:48 And then we always need to put the human side. Have you found that music heals you as well? No, absolutely. When I travels particularly, I get sometimes real, kind of real problems. You know, like I don't have a patient. I get really angry, you know. But then when I start playing some beautiful music by Bach or Chopin, I just come back to a wonderful mood.
Starting point is 00:28:26 The brilliant Lang Lang playing, Oh Holy Night. And that's all from the Happy Pod for now. If you have a story you think we should cover or would like to tell us what you think about anything in this episode, we'd love to hear from you. As ever, the address is. is Global Podcast at BBC.co.uk. And you can now watch some of our interviews on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Just search for The Happy Pod. This edition was mixed by Rosenwin-Der Realm, and the producers were Holly Gibbs and Rachel Bulkley. The editor is Karen Martin, and I'm Ankara to sign. Until next time, goodbye.

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