Global News Podcast - The Happy Pod: The best friends who turned out to be sisters

Episode Date: September 19, 2026

Meena and Minal were born in India, but adopted by different families and raised near each other in the Netherlands. When they first met in their early teens at an event hosted by the adoption agency ...their parents had used, they were struck by the uncanny similarities in their appearance and mannerisms. This year, Minal took a DNA test, which revealed the Meena she already knew was her biological sister. Also, we hear from the Cateura Orchestra of Recycled Instruments -- a group in Paraguay which play music on instruments made from landfill waste. Plus, Brad Ryan and Grandma Joy's adventures to visit every national park in the United States, before going on Safari trips around the world. For them, it wasn't about the sights, but healing their relationship, after they had not spoken in ten years. Why probiotics could help corals, and the table tennis club helping people with Parkinson's disease.Our weekly collection of inspiring, uplifting and happy news from around the world.Image: Meena Geltink and Minal Tijssen holding a picture of their younger selves. Credit: Reuters Presenter: Holly Gibbs. Music composed by Iona Hampson

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. Can pop music ever be apolitical? I'm Tristan Redmond. And I'm Asma Khalid, and together we host the Global Story podcast from the BBC. One of the most successful pop stars in the world, Ed Shearin, is facing the biggest controversy of his career because the rapper Maclemore has been dropped from tour after he made pro-Palestinian comments on stage.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Now all of Shearin's supporting acts have dropped out too. For more, listen to The Global Story on BBC.com or wherever you get your pods. This is the Happy Pod from the BBC World Service. I'm Holly Gibbs and in this edition, meet Mina and Mina. It's like all those 30 years we've been apart. We've never been apart. It's like we're picking up after that. And it feels really strange, but very good.
Starting point is 00:01:00 It feels like home. The girls who became best friends, only to discover they are actually biological sisters. Also on this podcast... This project is not just about teaching music. We're bringing to the world's attention this place, these kids. The orchestra who play instruments made from rubbish. Plus, the grandmother and grandson duo healing their relationship through travel. And...
Starting point is 00:01:31 When you think about it, it's pretty logical. I mean, when we're out of the office, it's just empty space and a lot of space and that can be comfy. The offices in France, which welcome people experiencing homelessness to stay. We start with a remarkable DNA discovery, which revealed that two best friends were actually biological sisters. Mina and Mina and Minal were both born in India. They were then adopted by different families and raised near each other in the Netherlands. It was only when they met by chance that they realised their similarities, as Amelia Clark reports. My sister.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Mina Gelting and Minal Tyson were both born in the early 1980s. They were adopted from two different orphanages in Mumbai within months of their birth. They first met in their early teens at an event hosted by an adoption agency their parents used and were struck by their uncanny similarities in their appearance and mannerisms. They promised to stay in touch and spent years writing letters to each other, often addressing each other as cis, despite not knowing the truth about their relation. Minal and Mina lost contact after Minal moved to France and Mina had a baby, until earlier this year when Minal decided to take a DNA test.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I was home alone and then I got the pop-up on my phone and it said, your results from DNA in my house is ready. So I opened it and then there was written Mina's sister. And I didn't realize it was Mina that I know. Minal messaged Mina on social media asking if she remembered her. Mina had tried to do a DNA test in 2017 but was told she had no matches. But the test Minal did confirmed the girls were 100% sisters, which means they share the same biological mother and father.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Last month, the girls met for the first time since finding out they were related. Minal says it's what she's dreamed of. I've always been surrounded by many people who love me and who took care of me. But something inside of me, I've always felt very lonely. And, yeah, I always hoped to find some biological, somewhere. And I always said, yes, I would love to see if there's my biological mother, but even more brothers or sisters. So, and now this happens. So inside it was like now I don't feel alone anymore. For Mina, it's as if no time has passed. It's like all those 30 years we've been
Starting point is 00:04:26 apart. We've never been apart. It's like we're picking up after that. and it feels really strange but very good. It feels like home. Yeah, yeah. It's like we don't live together. We have very different lives. But when it's like when I see you, it's like I'm home. I feel finally complete and that's the puzzle phase in my heart.
Starting point is 00:04:53 And yeah, I know that it's a lot, but it feels really good. Yeah. Since finding out, Mina and Minal have spoken almost every day. They've met each other's husbands and children and the families they were adopted into. One day, they hoped to go back to the orphanage where the story began. But for now, the sisters say the fact their siblings is something that is still sinking in. That was Amelia Clark reporting. To Paraguay next and an orchestra, which plays rubbish. Quite literally, all of their instruments are made of scrap found it landfill. Branca Lesser-Dissar has been finding out more.
Starting point is 00:05:38 That's Weewee Lopes, playing his violin. It sounds just like any other violin, but it looks distinctly different. Rather than the usual mahogany wood, Weewee's instrument is a hafazard combination of colours and textures. And that's because it's made from rubbish. Weewe is talking to me from his studio in Paraguay. Here he turns scraps of metal, wood, paper and plastic into music.
Starting point is 00:06:08 He works with Fabio Chavez, the founder and conductor of the recycled orchestra of Cateura. Cateura lies on the outskirts of Paraguay's capital, Assumcion. It's a vast, sprawling landfill. Every day, about 3 million pounds of solid waste get dumped here. Thousands of families live in and around Cateura. They survive by sorting. the rubbish for things they can sell. Kids regularly get pulled out of school to help. Theirs is a childhood marked by the sound of garbage trucks and plastic bags, or was, until
Starting point is 00:06:43 Favio Chavits came along. Fabio started working in Cateura in 2006 as an environmental technician, helping locals to classify what they found in the waste. When he first arrived, he was shocked by what he saw. I met families whose most basic necessities weren't being met. The children in this place didn't have the options for study or ways to use their free time positively. Fabio wanted to help and knew there was only one way he could. What I knew at that time and had experience in was music,
Starting point is 00:07:25 to offer the possibility of music lessons, as I was already a music teacher back home. home. He began to offer lessons to the children of Cateur, using donated instruments. But the classes proved so popular, they soon ran out. Instead of turning people away, Favu had an idea to make instruments out of the rubbish from the dump. It was a long process and it continues to be as we're still refining it. Despite the difficulties, they eventually did manage. And thus was born the recycled orchestra of Cateura.
Starting point is 00:08:05 The orchestra has now been playing for over 20 years and gained international acclaim. They have travelled and performed in countries across the world. More recently, a musical was made about their story. It premiered this summer in Atlanta. The production was a success, and next year, they'll be performing at Carnegie Hall. But when we first joined the orchestra,
Starting point is 00:08:34 he could never have imagined the success it would come to have. At the time, they didn't have their own rehearsal space or shows lined up. It really was a passion project, something from the heart. Wewe had received free music lessons from Favu when he was at school. For him, who had always loved music but lacked the means to pursue it, the lessons were transformational. So when he found out about the project, he immediately knew he wanted to help. I really admired it because it reminded me.
Starting point is 00:09:08 of me, and I felt a lot of empathy and connection to these kids who gave everything they had to make their dreams come true. Now, as well as teaching music lessons and playing, Weewe makes and repairs all the instruments used by the orchestra. But for both Bavu and Weewe, the project is about more than just music, or recycling. This project is not just about teaching music. We're bringing to the world's attention. this place, these kids.
Starting point is 00:09:41 When a child stands out for a skill, in this case music, they cease to be anonymous, they cease to be someone that doesn't matter, and they become someone important. That was Brankha Lesser-Dissar reporting. A man and his grandmother have been on a mission to visit every national park in the United States before going on safari trips around the world.
Starting point is 00:10:14 For them, it wasn't about the sights, but healing their relationship. Brad and Joy Ryan had not spoken in 10 years, but now they have rekindled, and Brad has even written a book about their adventures. Brad and Grandma Joy have been speaking to my colleague, Kasa Aloum. Well, it started when I was 85. He called up, wonder if I wanted to go camping,
Starting point is 00:10:38 and I said yes. So away we went, and we got there in the rain. It was quite a trip, I can tell you that. I held umbrella on it over him while he put the tent together. And then the air mattress, I kept falling off of it. So I said the heck worth it. I just slept on the ground. Brad, you know how to treat a woman, don't you?
Starting point is 00:11:00 You know, Grandma Joy is cut from a different cloth. I will admit, like, when we were driving down and I was looking at her hands, I thought, wow, I forgot that she's an old woman because she, you know, her mind and her spirit are so young. We had so much fun that weekend, and she blew my expectations out of the water. And that's why, you know, she not only, we went down there because she had never seen a mountain. And at age 85, she not only saw her first mountain, she climbed her first mountain as well. That's really why I wanted to keep the magic alive. I didn't intend in the beginning to go to all 63 U.S. national parks.
Starting point is 00:11:32 We had no intention of setting a world record. You know, she became the oldest person in the world to begin and complete a circuit to all 63 U.S. national parks. But it really just began as a way to repair our relationship. we hadn't spoken in 10 years at the beginning of this journey and now we're best friends. And Joy, for yourself, spending this time with Brad, how has that been for you, as well as visiting all these places? We had a lot of things discussed about. We talked about the things we saw outside, and I think we got along pretty good. When you haven't spoken to each other in 10 years, you know, there's a lot of, there's a lot of ground that you have to make up.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Why was that, by the way? It was a fractious divorce. Her eldest son was my father. when I was hiking the Appalachian Trail, when I was in my late 20s, and it was nearly a decade into our estrangement, I was sleeping next to the stream and thinking about those early childhood memories when she would take me into the local state park. And I just felt like I had to try. When I finished the Appalachian Trail after six months in the wilderness, I felt like I had to try to reconnect. And I thought she might slam the door in my face, to be honest, because her feelings
Starting point is 00:12:40 were really hurt. It's like any other type of reparation, right? You You don't rebuild a relationship overnight after 10 years of not speaking to somebody. You have to start somewhere. And for us, going back to nature, was the most natural place to begin that healing process. And that nature took you all around the world. Joy, tell me about some of the places that you've traveled to then all around the world. What's been your favorite place, both of you? Well, we started in Kenya, and that was our first international trip.
Starting point is 00:13:06 So after she completed the 63 U.S. National Parks, her Instagram followers asked me what the next chapter was going to be. And 63 was a big number. And so we thought, what's an epic journey that would be a smaller number? And so we came up with the seven continents. And when I was 20 years old, I had never been overseas. And she took me to the airport and I went to Kenya. And two months after we reached the National Park of American Samoa,
Starting point is 00:13:34 which was our 63rd and final U.S. National Park, she and I ended up going to Kenya. And I remember thinking when we were in the Lamar Valley at Yellowstone National Park, when we were stuck in this bison traffic jam for four hours, that she would never get to see the great migration of wildebeest and zebra in Africa, but at least she had that memory. And, you know, my assumption was wrong. And she ended up, she ended up getting to see the great migration along the Mara River.
Starting point is 00:14:01 And so for me, that was just a living, a breathing example that we can manifest, we can manifest these seemingly impossible dreams. If two hearts are willing to go along for the ride, what about you? What was your favorite country that you visited? The favorite place that you visited overseas? Oh, I think when we went over and helped the rhinos, we went over there, and there were several people with us, and it was an amazing experience. It was quite a big operation. There was airplanes and helicopters and truckloads of young men that helped us.
Starting point is 00:14:40 There'll be lots of people listening to you with a smile on their face. What would you say to anyone who hasn't traveled that much in their life? If you get a chance to go, go. Somebody asks you to go to someplace. Don't say no. Say yes. Because the next day you'll say, daggone it, I wish I'd have said yes and not no.
Starting point is 00:15:02 You know, the order you get, the faster time flies. So I'm getting close to the end. So I'm not saying no to know. and I do everything I can. That was Brad Ryan and Grandma Joy. Coming up on the Happy Pod. I firmly believe that this is a sport because of the quick decision-making you have to make with your brain
Starting point is 00:15:27 massively has benefits in terms of slowing down the illness. The table tennis club helping people with Parkinson's disease. Can pop music ever be apolitical? I'm Tristan Redmond. And I'm Asma Khalid, and together we host the Global Story podcast from the BBC. One of the most successful pop stars in the world, Ed Shearren, is facing the biggest controversy of his career because the rapper Maclemore has been dropped from tour after he made pro-Palestinian comments on stage. Now all of Shearin's supporting acts have dropped out too.
Starting point is 00:16:10 For more, listen to The Global Story on BBC.com or wherever you get your pods. You're listening to The Happy Pods. In Western France, one charity is helping those experiencing homelessness. They are partnering with businesses to open up unused office space so it can be used as overnight accommodation. Alex Collins has been to Nant to find out more. I'm meeting Frederick at the place where he lives. It's not your standard accommodation.
Starting point is 00:16:41 It's in the office of a software company called Eprisia. He takes me through the modern open plan office, past workers at their desks, to the room he sleeps in at night. Here's my stuff, my detergent to do my washing and the bottle of water. I don't have many things. It's a modest space with plain white walls and at the far end is a large desk with two computers which in the day are used by workers. The biggest object in the room is a rectangular box which looks at first like an office cabinet.
Starting point is 00:17:12 But to my surprise, it contains a fold-out bed. Okay, can you just show me the bed? The bed is being pulled down. It's on the side of a wall. and it just flips down. It's a very clever use of space. On the opposite side of the wall to the bed is a modest cabinet where Frederick keeps his small number of possessions.
Starting point is 00:17:30 On top of that, it's some ingredients for cooking. So you've also got some food there. You've got a lemon. Some nuts. Yes, I also have some pistachios and some baby onions. Do you want to show us where you cook? We head to a kitchen area at which staff members use in the day to eat their lunch.
Starting point is 00:17:49 It's the space that Frederick uses to make dinner in the evening. So I have everything I need. A coffee machine, plates, a sink, a fridge. You've got your own shelf on the fridge with a little post-it note with your name. That's very handy, so everyone knows not to touch your food. Occasionally, Frederick has a coffee with some of the staff. The ambition of the charity is to help those staying in offices into permanent work and secure housing. Bureau de Kerr believes having a stable place to sleep makes this easier. Every month, a meeting takes place with the resident and relevant support agencies
Starting point is 00:18:24 to ensure everything is staying on track. I've just got on the number three tram to meet Pierre Eve Loaik. He's actually the founder of Bureau de Kerr. I'm inside the office of advertising agency Nobilito. It's a business Pierre Eve, runs alongside Bureau de Kerr, so it's no surprise to find that he's also hosting a person who is homeless there. He's here one once ago. I am literally in its big office, but in the corner here it does feel like suddenly if I turn this way and look straightforward, it looks like someone's bedroom. A black curtain gives a degree of privacy, but there's also a sofa, which is long enough for someone to sleep on.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I can even see the sheets on the bed there. To ensure a respectful experience for the guest, offices are inspected by Bureau de Kerr volunteers in advance. Guests must have access to a toilet and shower and cooking facilities. So far, the scheme has helped over 100 people, but Pierre-Eve acknowledges that it's addressing only a small fraction of the homeless problem in Nantes. However, he says the solution goes beyond helping vulnerable people off the streets. We commissioned a study that confirmed that companies who took part in our scheme had happier employees compared to the standard French office.
Starting point is 00:19:53 In the end, I find companies do this because they think it's the moral thing to do. But what does staff in his own office think about the scheme? Wandering around, I met Claire and asked her what she thought about the office providing space for a person who is homeless. When you think about it, it's pretty logical. I mean, when we're out of the office, it's just empty space and a lot of space and that can be comfy. So if that can help someone in a difficult situation, I say go for it.
Starting point is 00:20:25 That was Alex Collins reporting. And for more on this story, just search for people fixing the world wherever you get your BBC podcasts. Probiotics have long been all the range in health advice. But now scientists have also discovered they could be good for corals. Erica Santoro is a microbiologist turned ecologist. She's been testing a probiotic treatment on reefs in the Red Sea. She's been speaking to my colleague Roland P's. Every single organism on planet hosts bacteria and other microorganisms.
Starting point is 00:21:00 This is not different in the ocean as well. So the corals also host a big amount of bacteria and microalgae. So it is a big mix and super for the microorganisms that live together with these coral hosts. So we call these a holobiology. because they actually work together and evolve together as well. The thing that happens when there is any stress, like the temperatures are raising in the ocean, there is a trigger which caused a lot of stress in the microalgae.
Starting point is 00:21:33 They produce a lot of compounds that are stressful for everybody, including the coral host. And a couple of processes can happen there, that these algae can be expelled by the host, that they can escape, the cell can just like break apart and like this mutualistic relationship, they just break up. But somewhere along the way you thought that there was some way that using probiotics, in other words, adding extra bacteria to unhealthy coral would help them.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Yes. So the idea here is we look at the coral and try to understand the beneficial relationships that exist between the coral and the microorganisms. and we isolate and manipulate those beneficial ones. I'm wondering how you do this because it's a bit different from taking a teaspoon of yogurt. So what's the process? Currently, we are doing this in the ocean. So we are upscaling from the lab setups and bringing to the field. We culture those beneficial cells.
Starting point is 00:22:37 We increase them in number and put them in some syringes and apply on top of the coral. So this is going to create a kind of cloud of beneficial. bacterial bacteria on top of those colonies. And we apply these off then. So we guarantee that those corals are going to actually uptake those bacteria that we are offering to them. What difference did you see between the treated and the not treated coral? So we observed, first of all, some proxies that are related to coral health, one of them and observing like how good they are doing this photosynthesis. And we observe these were decreasing along the time when we don't treat them. But when we applied the probiotics with time, they were actually recovering. They were actually having
Starting point is 00:23:19 like a better photosynthesis in those colonies that were treated with probiotics. So we saw a good result. Corals in the world cover a greater area than just the United Kingdom. This would be if it became practical, a huge effort. What are the steps before you even get that far? We have been observing like this positive effect and beneficial affecting different coral species for different reasons to protect against bleaching, mortality, even against diseases. So we are really getting excited about like the results and we see that it really works. Now I think our question is not if it has an effect or not, but how to apply this in a big scale. Erica Santoro speaking to Roland Peas.
Starting point is 00:24:07 We end here in the UK, where people living with Parkinson's disease have been benefiting from weekly table tennis sessions. The BBC's Mark Norman has been to the Brighton Table Tennis Club to find out more. People living with Parkinson's disease have described the benefits of playing table tennis as a no-brainer, saying it improves their movement, mood and confidence. Playing on the tables today a few volunteers, but also a range of people living with Parkinson. In a moment we'll hear from Richard Witts, an emeritus professor of music and sound, diagnosed with Parkinson's five years ago, but first, here's David Priest,
Starting point is 00:24:48 a former restaurant worker, diagnosed 15 years ago. Say if I paid to like this session this morning, for most of the afternoon, I'll feel my movement will improve, my mood will improve. The main problem with Parkinson's is balance. you use your sense of balance. And so this helps to address this problem. Also playing the tables today, Tracy Steele. He's a former maths teacher and was diagnosed five years ago.
Starting point is 00:25:24 And finally, we will hear from Carol Gill. She's been living with Parkinson's for 11 years and is a former student administrator. Got like, you know, lots of people you can talk to, which is really useful because you need people who have actually been there themselves you know
Starting point is 00:25:40 you have to react so quickly and score and move and think about your tactics at the same time so for people with Parkinson's that's a really exceptional thing the Brighton Table Tennis Club hosts weekly sessions for people with Parkinson's dementia
Starting point is 00:25:59 and other neurological conditions go! The club's head of community outreach and the voice you may have heard shouting in the background, Nick Creel. I firmly believe that this is a sport because of the quick decision-making you have to make with your brain massively has benefits in terms of slowing down the illness. Parkinson's is a progressive disorder affecting the brain, nervous system and muscle control. There are around 150,000 people in the UK living with the condition. Last year, Table Tennis England and Parkinson's UK announced a partnership to create more opportunities like this for people to play the sport.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Philip Lindley is from Parkinson's UK. Table tennis has shown to have many benefits for things like balance and coordination. It can also be really good for memory. And it's also been really beneficial for social interaction as well. And Table Tennis England have recognised how powerful their sport can be in supporting people and said it wants everyone to feel there's a place for them at the table tennis table. That report was from Mark Norman. And that's all from the Happy Pod for now.
Starting point is 00:27:21 We'd love to hear from you. As ever, the address is global podcast at BBC.co.uk. The editor of this edition is Karen Martin. I'm Holly Gibbs. Until next time, goodbye. Can pop music ever be apolitical? I'm Tristan Redmond. And I'm Asma Khalid.
Starting point is 00:27:47 And together we host the Global Story podcast from the BBC. One of the most successful pop stars in the world, Ed Shearin, is facing the biggest controversy of his career because the rapper Maclemore has been dropped from tour after he made pro-Palestinian comments on stage. Now all of Shearin's supporting acts have dropped out too. For more, listen to The Global Story on BBC.com or wherever you get your post. Thanks.

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