Global News Podcast - Trump approves sale of advanced AI chips to China

Episode Date: December 9, 2025

The US chipmaker, Nvidia has been authorised to sell advanced AI chips to China - in a major reversal of Washington's national security policy. The Democratic Senator, Elizabeth Warren, said the deci...sion risked turbocharging China's bid for technological and military dominance. Donald Trump has also announced a $12bn rescue package for US farmers hit by his tariffs. Also: scientists say a revolutionary treatment for blood cancers is delivering impressive results; Sudan's paramilitary Rapid Support Forces say they've taken control of the country’s largest oil field; a takeover battle is underway for Warner Brothers - as Paramount outbids Netflix; the wreck of an ancient ornate pleasure boat is discovered off the coast of Egypt; and the headset that made it possible for a man with almost no sight to watch a live football match. The Global News Podcast brings you the breaking news you need to hear, as it happens. Listen for the latest headlines and current affairs from around the world. Politics, economics, climate, business, technology, health – we cover it all with expert analysis and insight.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. This is the Global News podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Pete Ross and in the early hours of Tuesday the 9th of December, these are our main stories. Donald Trump has approved the sale of advanced AI chips to China, reversing a Biden-era ban brought in because of national security concerns. The US leader has also announced a $12 billion rescue package for American farmers, hard hit by his tariffs.
Starting point is 00:00:31 In Sudan, paramilitaries say they've taken control of the country's largest oil field. Also in this podcast, scientists say a revolutionary treatment for blood cancers is delivering impressive results. A takeover battle is underway for Hollywood's Warner Brothers and the headset that made it possible for a man with almost no sight
Starting point is 00:00:52 to watch a live football match. I don't think there's really words to describe it. It was obviously like the first time that I'd ever actually seen players on the pitch with my own eyes. I was able to see what was going on off the ball, the expressions on the faces of supporters. We begin with a significant announcement from Washington on the sale of advance U.S. made AI chips to China. On Monday, President Trump said his administration had given the green light to NVIDIA to sell some of its more powerful AI chips to Beijing. Approval for the H-200 chip followed months of haggling
Starting point is 00:01:30 between tech industry backers who were in favour of a deal and defence hawks, who say the sale of these sorts of chips risk giving China a military and economic advantage. The US President announced the deal in a social media post saying the US government would take a 25% cut of the sales and that Beijing had responded positively. It's a deal that's been brewing for a while, so what's pushed it through now?
Starting point is 00:01:54 I put that question to our North American technology correspondent, Lily Jamali. Envidia boss, Jensen Wong, is a big reason why I think it ended up happening. I call him the diplomat in chief in Silicon Valley because he is really stuck in the middle of this geopolitical tug of war between the U.S. and China. He has been lobbying the White House. You see him at all kinds of events with President Trump in the U.S. and abroad. And he has also gone to China on a number of occasions in recent months.
Starting point is 00:02:23 So I think it's fair to say he helped broker this just last week. he was in Washington trying to convince not just the White House, but lawmakers to go along with this deal. There, we may see a little bit of resistance from, as you said, people in Congress who don't like this move on national security grounds. What are some of those grounds? Well, I would point you to some of the researchers at Georgetown University. There's the Center for Security and Emerging Technology there, which has been looking into how China might use these most advanced AI chips designed by the United States. They will say that China's People's Liberation Army is using these chips to develop AI-enabled
Starting point is 00:03:03 military capabilities. One analyst I spoke to today said that by making it easier for the Chinese to access these chips, you enable China to more easily use and deploy AI systems for military applications, that there is a battlefield advantage that is up for grabs here. I will also say, you know, it's often the case that China is pointed to as the boogeyman here. You often will see in this debate, this concern about, you know, we can't give China an advantage over the U.S. But Jensen Wong has a very different narrative. He is saying if we don't sell these chips and play ball with China, that China is going to develop its own ecosystem for chip
Starting point is 00:03:41 design. They already have done that. And you often will hear him say that they're very close behind, just at a razor's edge, basically behind the U.S. in that technology. And what about Beijing? If we heard any more from them, I mean, will the even buy these chips because they're not even the sort of best ones or the most powerful ones that in video produce. Is that correct? That's right. We actually have heard from only Donald Trump's read out of what President Xi is saying. As far as I have seen and our colleagues at the BBC have seen, we haven't seen confirmation from China itself. But absolutely, this has been part of the tug of war is China also kind of dug in its heels earlier this.
Starting point is 00:04:26 summer and said to its tech companies, stop using these AI chips, even if they're available. We need to develop our own ecosystem. Lily Jamali, farmers in the US have been reacting after President Donald Trump has unveiled a new $12 billion aid package to bail out those hardest hit by his trade policies. US soybean farmers in particular have lost billions from trade disputes with China, which has turned to South American suppliers for soybeans amid the Trump administration's tariffs. Barbara Carleback is a soybean farmer from Iowa. China now doesn't want to buy from us anymore because of the tariffs, so they go to Brazil.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Well, that's over 25% of our market share for soybeans that is now going somewhere else because of the tariffs. So I'm glad that he said that there's a lot of income from the tariffs so he can pay us off. But in the meantime, your market's destroyed. Bob Wirth has been farming for more than 50 years in southwest Minnesota, running a family business and said he fears for future generations. Our input costs are going up at a rapid pace or what we get for our crops when we sell them is down. So we are actually losing a fair amount of money every year on every acre. So if we don't do something soon, get some help, we're going to lose a fair amount of young farmers, the ones that will be taking over the air. agriculture, business, and that's very bad.
Starting point is 00:05:56 So are these measures enough to keep farmers on side? I put that question to our North America correspondent, David Willis. Well, this is a community that, of course, generally supports Donald Trump, whose backing helped him secure a second term in the White House, yet his trade policies have hurt them. And the president launched a trade war with China in the spring, of course, the tariffs he imposed on exports to the United States have cost the agricultural community here billions of dollars, it's estimated, in lost sales, at a time when that community is also having to deal with the rising price of such things as fertilizers and tractors and so on. This $12 billion aid package is an attempt really to make it up to them, make it up to those farmers, with one-off payments to those who farm so-called rogue crops, such as,
Starting point is 00:06:50 corn and soybeans. Now, the Treasury Secretary, Scott Besant, said the payments would provide what he called a liquidity bridge and support farmers until they see the benefits of the Trump administration's trade deals. Now, for his part, Donald Trump told reporters today, we love our farmers, they're great people, the backbone of the country, but he knows that China, as the world's largest importer of soybeans had been buying up about a quarter of America's soybean exports until his tariffs were introduced, whereupon it started looking more to Brazil and other South American nations for its supplies of soybeans. And China has since pledged to resume the purchasing of American soybeans, but as we heard earlier, many farmers fear that it would take years for the market
Starting point is 00:07:44 in such products to fully recover from this. This is part of a sort of broader issue for the president, isn't it? About how he's doing in the polls with his popularity, and that's kind of linked to the idea that prices for food, one of the things that he promised to drive down, he's not been doing. So, you know, how's that playing into all over this? Well, you're right.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And I mentioned the rising cost of fertilizers and other such products. There is growing dissatisfaction here over the rising cost of living, which some have attributed in part at least to President Trump's economic policies, and in particular his trade tariffs. Now, Mr. Trump has dismissed talk of inflation as a hoax and a con job on the part of rival Democrats. And he did appear, however, to soften his message just a little today, acknowledging what he called an affordability problem. And this is an issue that he expected to confront, in fact,
Starting point is 00:08:41 in a speech he's due to deliver in Pennsylvania tomorrow. Democrats, meanwhile, continue to accuse the president of mismanaging the largest economy in the world. David Willis, a group of patients with previously untreatable blood cancers are now disease-free after trying a revolutionary gene therapy that experts say would have been science fiction just a few years ago. The treatment developed by scientists at Great Ormond Street Hospital in London and University College London
Starting point is 00:09:14 involves editing the DNA of white blood cells to turn them into what they call a living drug. Our medical editor Fergus Walsh went to meet one of them. Alyssa, I'm just going to listen to your chest. Is that okay? Mm-hmm. If you can please breathe in. When she was 13, Alyssa Tapley and her family
Starting point is 00:09:32 were faced with a stark choice. Take the offer of a world-first cell therapy for her aggressive leukemia or choose palliative care. The pioneering treatment worked and three years on, her cancer remains undetectable. Alyssa, now 16, reflects on that time.
Starting point is 00:09:53 I really did think that I was going to die and I wouldn't be able to grow up and do all the things that every child deserves to be able to do. Obviously, I went from four months straight in Great Ormond Street to now. I only come back for medical appointments once a year. So it's really amazing, just how much more freedom that I'm able to have now. The science here is complex.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Alyssa was given donor immune cells that had been genetically modified using a new technique called base editing. Among the billions of letters or bases that make up the cell's DNA, scientists made three precise changes and then armed them to fight her cancer. After her cancer was cleared, a bone marrow transplant then rebuilt her immune system. The research was led by Professor Wazim Kazim of UCL and Great Ormond Street hospitals. A few years ago, this would have been science fiction, but now we can actually collect white blood cells from healthy donors
Starting point is 00:11:03 and use them for their powerful immune effects by replacements. programming them and asking them to go and hunt down leukemia when they're giving back to patients. The team at Gosch and King's College Hospital have since treated a further eight children and two adults with aggressive T-cell leukemia and the results have been published in the New England Journal of Medicine. Dr. Robert Kiezer is a consultant in bone marrow transplants at Gosh. 82% of the patients that would have been otherwise uncurable went into. a deep remission and managed to go ahead with a bone margotransplantation. And at last follow-up, almost 70% of the patients are alive and incomplete remission. So given how aggressive
Starting point is 00:11:49 this particular form of leukemia is, these are quite striking clinical results. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so why don't you try looking at it on a higher magnification then? Oh, that's good. Yeah? Yeah. Perfect. Alyssa can now plan for the future, including how she may be able to help others. I'm looking into doing an apprenticeship in biomedical science, and hopefully one day I'll go into blood cancer research as well, not just for my type of cancer that I had, but for so many others. The same technology that saved Alyssa's life has also been used to successfully treat the blood disorder sickle cell disease and may have potential with other forms of cancer. Fergus Walsh. In Sudan, the paramilitary rapid support forces, or RSF, have said they have seized control of the country's largest oil field
Starting point is 00:12:41 and its refinery from the Sudanese army. This cuts the government forces off from a key source of revenue. The oil field is situated on the border with South Sudan and is also the main processing hub for that country's oil exports, which provide nearly all of its income. Our global affairs reporter Richard Cagaway spoke to my colleague Alex Ritson. This is quite significant because the RSF has stepped up attacks in this South Kodafan region, which is towards the southern border with South Sudan. And for them, they have been targeting various areas within this region
Starting point is 00:13:19 because they are rich in oil and also in gold. So this is a major setback for the government. And the government, which is basically the Sudanese army, has been quite reliant on this facility as a major source. of its revenue. What will the RSF subjectives be having taken control of this oil field? I think that's really the big question. Everybody's wondering really how the RSF is really going to benefit from this
Starting point is 00:13:48 because they would have control perhaps then over this processing facility here. But then how do they export the material, this resource now to Port Sudan or to the Red Sea? for evacuation. So the thing is, there's no other outlet for oil apart from, you know, Port Sudan. That's the established infrastructure. So we don't know whether this is going to be used as a baguading chip or an attempt even just to economically cripple the Sudanese army, which is based in Khartoum. So it could be just one of the tactics that the RSF is trying to play or use just to frustrate the Sudanese army. Because of course, As you say, right next to South Sudan, for South Sudan, oil exports are a major part of their economy.
Starting point is 00:14:39 It's a country which is on its knees economically anyway. Has this got the potential to do damage to South Sudan? Because the pipeline runs through Sudan to get to the port. Precisely. So when oil is, you know, saunter from Sudan's, then pumped through this facility onwards to port Sudan on the red sea. Now, Sudan relies on oil exports. Basically, they make up nearly all of its revenues. And so this would really be a major concern for the country, which has really been struggling to service its debt and also economically. So it's going to really have huge ramifications, not only just
Starting point is 00:15:22 for Sudan, but also for South Sudan. This is basically its economic lifeline. Richard Kugoy. For more details on that story and any of today's big stories, you can go on YouTube. Search for BBC News, click on the logo, then choose podcasts and Global News Podcasts. There's a new story available every weekday. Still to come. The discovery of what Egyptologists say was a luxury yacht from ancient times. To our great excitement, there was a pleasure brought which has never been found before. How do you go about transforming one of the world's oldest industries, one with a complex regulatory landscape, supply chain vulnerabilities, pressure from investors, all amid unprecedented global instability.
Starting point is 00:16:21 I'm Chip Kleinexel, host of Resilient Edge, a business vitality podcast, Payton presented by Deloitte. The majority of organizations that really embark on the these transformation initiatives are not successful because they don't have that strategy. Tamika Bell from Mitsubishi Chemical Group talks about what separates companies that succeed from those that fail to transform themselves in the energy sector. Stop diagnosing the symptoms. We need to start diagnosing the system that encompasses manufacturing and supply chain and commercial and R&D. Systems thinking versus surface fixes? It takes deep industry knowledge to know the difference.
Starting point is 00:17:03 The companies that will thrive will be the ones who continue to focus on value, vision, and strategic agility, companies who are not going to get tired of evolving nature of the business. Rahul Chatwal from Deloitte sees the pattern across energy companies. It's not about expensive technology. It's about constant evolution. What are we really trying to solve here? What does success look like? Who owns the outcome?
Starting point is 00:17:32 Tamika asks the tough questions because in complex industries like this one, every decision has global impact. So what does real transformation look like in the high-stakes, deeply complex energy sector? Get a 360-degree understanding of the challenges and untapped opportunities in this episode of Resilient Edge. Find us wherever you get your podcasts. It's 5.23 p.m. One of your kids is asking for a snack. Another is building a fort out of your clean lawn. and you're staring at a half-empty fridge and thinking,
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Starting point is 00:19:05 the Syrian President Ahmed al-Shara vowed to make a clean break with the past. Today, as the sun of freedom rises, we're announcing an historic break from the past, an end to the fiction of the Assad regime and a permanent separation from authoritarian rule, towards a new dawn, a dawn of justice and benevolence, of citizenship and coexistence
Starting point is 00:19:33 of innovation and commitment to building a nation. The end of our battle against the former regime is only the start of a new battle, the battle to back up our words with action and keep our promises. The BBC's Luke Jones spoke to Mohammed, a youth worker in Daria, near the capital Damascus,
Starting point is 00:19:54 and Celine, a translator in Idlib, about how they were feeling. I'm 26 years old, and this is a year old. It's totally something new to me, and I'm so happy. Everyone is happy and everyone is gifting each other. I have been firstly migrated from Daria in 2012, and now this is my first year in Daria. I'm shocked a little bit.
Starting point is 00:20:15 It's a new experience. We are so happy, no people in the prisons now. It's amazing feeling to us. There are still lots of issues that need to be sorted out in Syria. What is concerning you? What are you worried about? Basically, I'm worried about the sanctions. Are you not concerned that if you are Aloite, if you're Druze, if you're Christian or Bedouin, you might not be enjoying all the freedoms?
Starting point is 00:20:39 If you will go to the streets, no one will ask you about your identity or you ask you for your ID card to celebrate or not. Let's focus on solving our problem. I'm living here in Idlib, so I think everything is like all right. I'm not worried about anything else because I feel safe here. How do you feel about your leader, Ahmed al-Shara? Do you rate him? Do you like him? Honestly, yes, but I cannot judge it completely in just one year. They are doing their best, honestly.
Starting point is 00:21:05 They are trying to make Syria again globally existed. Many aspects need to be fixed economically. Security issue. We need justice. I'm from the area and I need justice for my people who I lost. I know the government they are doing their best. Luke Jones, speaking to Mohammed and Celine. Now, if you think of a luxury yacht,
Starting point is 00:21:26 you might conjure an image of a ginormous sleek, vessel, perhaps with a helipad out the back, parked off the coast of somewhere like Monaco. But according to underwater archaeologists in Egypt, giant boats used by the very wealthy are nothing new. They say they've discovered, for the first time ever, a large ornate pleasure boat that dates back 2,000 years of the submerged island of Anthrodos. Archaeologists have known about them for years because they were described by ancient authors and depicted in iconography. But this is the first time. one has been found. Professor Frank Goddio is director at the European Institute of Underwater
Starting point is 00:22:04 Archaeology and led the search. He spoke to the BBC's Jamie Komorosami about the discovery. We found a bow of a boat with a flat bottom. To our great excitement, there was the pleasure board. There were a lot of those pleasure boats which was used by the normal men of the court and they were used to hunt hippopotamus and the well... Sorry, what are they doing with hippopotamus? They were hunting them. They were hunting them from this boat. Hippopotamuses, yes.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I mean, you've found a lot in the time that you've been working off the coast of Egypt, haven't you? I mean, you've found a whole city. How does this compare finding this boat? Well, we have palaces, we have temples, but we have also shipwrakes. It's quite exciting when you... come across a ship, you know, which has been described, but which has never been found before. And you have to leave it there, don't you? You can't bring it up. You have to leave it down there to do further research on it. We take wood sample for the study, for carbon-forting
Starting point is 00:23:13 datings, for identification, etc. But we leave the boat down as recommended by UNESCO because it's bringing that boat on land, need a lot of preservation and very long process. Does that make the process of trying to find out as much as you can about what was happening on the boat and what it tells us about life back in those ancient times in the early Roman periods of Egypt? Does that make it much more challenging the fact you have to keep going backwards and forwards, diving down there to find out more? Yes, of course, it's challenging. We have to do everything on the world. water, we have to take a record of everything we can record with the means of the science of
Starting point is 00:23:56 today, of course. What was exciting also on the shipwreck is that we found a Greek inscription on the wood. And we could, from the style of those Greek inscription, we could date very precisely this boat of very early 1st century AD. From what's been written about this boat, what would the modern-day equivalent be? It was a kind of a, yeah, of course. It was a very luxury boat. A super yacht? Yes. But more generally, what can you say that this boat tells us
Starting point is 00:24:30 about what life was like in Egypt at that time? It was the time of the glory of the city of Alexandria. It was at the peak of the grandeur and the power of Alexandria. Professor Frank Gordio speaking to Jamie Kumerasami. When Netflix announced its audacious, $72 billion bid for the Warner Brothers movie studio and streaming operation on Monday, it seemed that it had seized the initiative from Paramount, who'd been working on a deal of its own for months.
Starting point is 00:25:01 However, the race to buy the company is far from over. A successful purchase must first make it past regulators, a process that can take several months. That's given the Paramount boss, David Allison, the opportunity to swoop in with an even bigger bid of $108 billion for the whole company. Paramount's bid has the support of a private equity firm run by President Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner. So what happens next? My colleague, Jamie Kumara Sami, put that question to Ellie Times' Meg James.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Honestly, it's a big mess. What the Warner Board has said is that they're standing behind the Netflix bid, that they were going to provide a proposal to their shareholders in the next 10 days, so they want to get this wrapped up by Christmas. But really, it's going to be difficult. for Paramount to try to get this asset. Although, you know, it is possible. Elon Musk a few years ago succeeded in a hostile takeover. So there is precedent both ways. And as ever, with so much in America at the moment, there is the Trump factor to take into account and the president who says he's going
Starting point is 00:26:06 to be involved in all of this. What could that mean? Well, I mean, your guess is as good as mine. And today when asked about his son-in-law, Derek Kushner's involvement, he said, oh, I don't know. I haven't talk to him about it. So, you know, stay tuned. It's Hollywood. I mean, there will be another development, but it's pretty raucous at this point. We're talking about it as a big deal, this development, the latest plot twist of Paramount jumping in like this, but the sale of Warner Brothers discovery for those who don't know or understand Hollywood like you do, just put that into context. Well, I mean, this deal is really earthshaking here in Hollywood. You have Netflix, which had long been sort of looked at dismissively by media moguls.
Starting point is 00:26:50 But it really, over the last 10 years, has upset Hollywood. And then last week, they made a deal to buy one of the most historic and beloved pieces of Hollywood. So you have that going on. You have people in the industry worried about the loss of jobs with any merger. And then you have the Paramount Hostel Takeover bid today. And, you know, we don't know if it will go through. one of the concerns that Netflix was going to have to overcome was just the size of how dominant has become.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And so Paramount is hoping to sort of sow seeds of doubt in the Warner investors so that they can claw back what they see is this major prize. L.A. Times journalist Meg James talking to Jamie Kumerasami. Leonardo DiCaprio's latest film, one battle after another, is leading the charge for next month's Golden Globe Awards with nine nominations. Cynthia Arrivo and Ariana Grande are recognised for their work
Starting point is 00:27:45 in Wicked for Good but despite its box office success the film itself misses out in the TV categories adolescents, White Lotus and Slow Horses have all been shortlisted Our entertainment correspondent Lizzo Mizimba has been looking
Starting point is 00:28:00 at the nominees You know what freedom is no fear just like tough crews The fast-paced comedic drama One Battle After Another follows a former revolutionary being pursued by the authorities. Its nine nominations include Best Musical or Comedy Film, Best Director for Paul Thomas Anderson, and Best Actor for Leonardo DiCaprio.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Viva La Revolution! The family drama's sentimental value has eight nominations. Set in Oslo, the film, which is partly in Norwegian... ...a families in al-a-papa. ...examines the family dynamics of a famous director, and his two daughters. Sinners, a period vampire drama, and Hamnet, about William Shakespeare and his wife dealing with the loss of their son, are just behind with seven and six nominations respectively.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Mama! My boy! He lives not. With Hamonet's two Irish stars, Paul Meskell and Jesse Buckley, both recognised in the acting categories. In TV, the acclaimed Netflix drama Adolescence is one of the most nominated. shows. What have you done? Stephen Graham is recognised in the best actor category,
Starting point is 00:29:15 Owen Cooper, who turned 16 last week in the best supporting actor category. No! Do not! Tell me when to see them! While the drama itself is up for Best Limited Series. The awards take place next month. Liseomazimba. Star Trek Next Generation fans will remember Georgie LaForge, the blind crew member with a headset that enabled him to see pretty much like anyone else. That technology is a step closer to reality.
Starting point is 00:29:43 John Attenborough is an avid football supporter, but he has no sight in his right eye and very limited sight in his left. So he usually tunes into the commentary for visually impaired supporters. But on Saturday, he was able to watch a match properly for the first time.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I don't think there's really words to describe it. It was obviously like the first time that I'd ever actually seen players on the pitch with my own eyes. so I was quite overwhelmed with emotions when I put the headset on and I was able to follow the action with my own eyes
Starting point is 00:30:16 I usually listen to the audio descriptive commentary which is a fantastic service but it generally just follows the movements of the ball so I was able to see what was going on off the ball I was able to see the expressions on faces of supporters sitting at the other side of the stadium it was just wonderful so the headset itself is sort of front loaded
Starting point is 00:30:37 with cameras in it and what I have in my hand is like a handheld joystick almost like a computer game controller and I can push forward and back to zoom in and out or I can adjust it left and right to change the brightness and there's a button to change the colour contrast
Starting point is 00:30:56 and things like that so the user can actually adjust it to their own visual requirement so every time you turn your head you're seeing exactly what a sighted person would see that's directly in front of them. You know, I'm somebody who goes to games most weekends. So being able to actually see what was happening on the pitch from where I was sitting
Starting point is 00:31:19 and just move my head and see the surroundings, it was just absolutely amazing. Wonderful. John Attenborough. And that's all from us for now, but there will be a new edition of the Global News podcast later. If you want to comment on this podcast or the topic covered in it, you can send us an email. The address is Global Podcast at BBC.co. You can also find us on X at BBC World Service. Use the hashtag Global NewsPod.
Starting point is 00:31:48 This edition was mixed by Rebecca Miller and produced by Stephen Jensen and Marion Strong. The editor is Karen Martin. I'm Pete Ross. Until next time, goodbye.

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