Global News Podcast - Trump considering 'winding down' Iran military campaign

Episode Date: March 21, 2026

President Trump posted on social media that the US was getting very close to meeting its objectives in Iran. Earlier he told reporters he didn't want a ceasefire. The BBC's US partner, CBS, has report...ed that US military officials are making detailed preparations for the possibility of deploying ground troops in Iran. Also: we hear from the journalist in Israel who's been pressured by online gamblers to change a story; why social media is awash with chat about how thin everyone was at the Oscars - and it's not just about the women; and the new research which calls into question the march south by English troops, ordered by King Harold, to face the Norman invasion in the famous Battle of Hastings in 1066.The Global News Podcast brings you the breaking news you need to hear, as it happens. Listen for the latest headlines and current affairs from around the world. Politics, economics, climate, business, technology, health – we cover it all with expert analysis and insight. Get the news that matters, delivered twice a day on weekdays and daily at weekends, plus special bonus episodes reacting to urgent breaking stories. Follow or subscribe now and never miss a moment. Get in touch: globalpodcast@bbc.co.uk

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. How did fake rumors about the death of Benjamin Netanyahu spread around the globe? So far that he was even forced to post multiple proof of life videos to quash the rumors. To be very clear, Benjamin Netanyahu is not dead. But what does this episode tell us about disinformation in the age of AI? I'm Asma Khalid with the global story. Listen on Spotify. This is the Global News podcast from the BBC World Service.
Starting point is 00:00:41 I'm Keith Adams and at 4 o'clock GMT on Saturday the 21st of March, these are our main stories. President Trump has said the US is considering winding down its military efforts in Iran shortly after saying he didn't want a ceasefire. Iranian missile debris has hit Jerusalem very close to some of the world's most important religious sites. And Denmark was reportedly prepared to blow up runways in Greenland to deter an American invasion. Also in this podcast, we hear from the journalist in Israel
Starting point is 00:01:13 who's been pressured by online gamblers to change a story. They started threatening me personally. They started threatening my family. They said that I'm going to make them lose nearly a million dollars and they're going to invest more than that to, quote-unquote, finish me. And? It's encompassing all different age group, social classes, ethnicities, with a sense of despair.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Has Hollywood gone too far with weight loss? In the last few hours, we've had reports of fresh air strikes on Tehran and of Iranian missile and drone attacks on Dubai, Kuwait, the UAE and Iraq. So the war continues unabated. And yet President Trump has said on social media that he's considering winding down the conflict as the US was close to meeting its objectives. He earlier spoke to reporters against the familiar backdrop
Starting point is 00:02:06 of the presidential helicopter, telling them he wasn't looking for a ceasefire with Iran. I don't want to do a ceasefire. You know, you don't do a ceasefire when you're literally obliterating the other side. They don't have a Navy. They don't have an Air Force. They don't have any equipment to, they don't have any spotters, they don't have anti-aircraft, they don't have radar, and their leaders have all been killed at every level. We're not looking to do that. The President may sound characteristically bullish, but the economic turn, Thermoil persists, with all three major indexes on the US stock market down at close of play on Wall Street. The oil tanker traffic jam in the strait of Hormuz fuel in the now four-week
Starting point is 00:02:48 slump. President Trump said again that other countries needed to help get the waterway opened. So what can we read into the president's latest words on the war? Our correspondent Simi Jolla Oshow spoke to me from Washington. Yeah, so it's interesting that President Trump has said he's considering winding down military operations against Iran. He says that the U.S. is close to meeting their objectives, which seem to have expanded since the start of the war to now include basically decimating Iran's military. It feels like the messaging now is sort of to define the parameters of victory. President Trump has already claimed that this fight is already won. He's now said that he's
Starting point is 00:03:30 open to dialogue, even though he wouldn't want to ceasefire because he says Iran is already defeated. But this messaging contradicts reports that we're hearing here in the US, including from our partner station, CBS, that Department of Defense officials have made preparations for deploying ground forces, although it's not clear under what circumstance President Trump would authorize the use of ground troops. We're also hearing that nearly 5,000 Marines and several warships are currently on their way to the Middle East from Japan and from the US. Now, President Trump has said just on Thursday that he wouldn't support ground troop operations. But then he said even if he would, he wouldn't tell journalists.
Starting point is 00:04:13 The Pentagon declined to comment, citing operational security. But what we're seeing is that the Trump administration is expanding their military options, but not necessarily expanding their military operations, as we've just heard from President Trump that they're considering winding those down. But this is an administration that's facing press. Firstly, how to end this war. What does victory look like? Would they have to get rid of Iran's uranium? They're facing pressure with regards to the increase in the number of US service member casualties, which is now risen to 13. There's pressure around how the war has widened across the Middle East and also pressure around the spiraling oil prices as a result of what's happening at the Strait of Hormuz.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Right. And what did he say about that? Because that's obviously become such a focus for the war. He's basically saying this is now a problem for the rest of the world versus a US problem. Previously, President Trump has said that the US would secure the straight one way or the other. As recently as Tuesday, he said that the US never desired or needed assistance from NATO allies and other countries like Japan and South Korea. But now he's saying that the Strait of Hormuz should be policed by other nations who use it, including Japan and China, and that it would be an easy military operation for them. He's clearly frustrated at NATO. He's called them cowards. He said that NATO countries are like paper tigers, which is something or someone that appears powerful, but is effectively weak. And then he made that subtle threat saying that the US will remember.
Starting point is 00:05:56 He claims that the US doesn't use the Strait of Hormuz, which is partly true because the US produces a lot of its own oil and imports, if it does import oil, mainly from Canada and Mexico. But whatever happens at the strait affects the US, particularly politically and economically, as we've seen the stock market here continues to slump as oil prices rise. Simi Jolla Oshu. As Iran continues to fire missiles at Israel, debris from one of them has hit the historic old city of Jerusalem, close to some of the world's most important religious sites. The explosion left a crater near the Old City Wall. Our global affairs reporter Sebastian Usher went to the area.
Starting point is 00:06:43 So this is the closest we can get to where the impact site is behind there, where the firefighters are, where the security is, where the police are. right on the edge of the wall of the old city. Well, back at the Jerusalem Bureau, Sebastian gave us more details of the attack and its significance. This is missile debris, an interception in the sky. If people have been there, they'll know, but just to paint the picture, three incredibly holy sites for Christianity, for Judaism and for Islam, are very close together.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And where this impact site was is about 300,000. meters away from them. That's the Alexa Mosque, the Western Wall, and that's the Church of a Holy Sepulch. The impact site, nobody was injured, is just on the edge of a car park, but it was quite a deep crater that it caused. I think because of the security that there's been in the old city, because of the war, there were fewer people than there would have been normally, because this is the first day of Eid, the great Muslim festival, and Al-Axa would normally be packed with people. Now, it's very much a route that Jewish people take to get to the Western War, so it is extraordinary that people weren't injured, I think, one would have to say.
Starting point is 00:08:05 It really brings home the fragility not just of people in this war, but of incredibly important religious and cultural artefact. based in East Jerusalem, which is just next to where the old city is, there's been a sense that even when you see the interceptions go on overhead, you get the sirens, that you are more protected there than almost anywhere else in Israel because of those sites being there and the thought that Iran would not risk doing something that could harm them, particularly Al-Axon, but that may not be the case.
Starting point is 00:08:42 The BBC's Global Affairs reporter Sebastian Usher there in Jerusalem. Now, some have described it as turning the Middle East conflict into a casino. Gamblers have been placing bets worth millions of dollars on the unfolding events of the war. One in particular concerns a report by the Times of Israel Defence correspondent Emmanuel Fabian. It's become the subject of a major dispute on polymarket. That's a popular prediction site where people can bet on the outcome of almost anything. Emmanuel has been telling Katie Razol what happened. On this incident on March 10th, I reported that one of these missiles had hit an open area near a city just outside Jerusalem.
Starting point is 00:09:23 And I posted a very short item on our live blog saying that the missile struck an open area, there's no injuries. And I attached a video showing the moment that this missile struck. Late that day, I get a very odd email asking me to change the wording of my story and to change it from a missile impacting to a fragment from an interceptor or debris or shrapnel or something along those lines. And I thought it was a really odd request. I told the person that what I know is correct and it's a missile. And the next day I get another email asking the same thing again. And at that point, I was very confused as to why people were asking me these questions. I didn't realize what their intentions were.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And then over the following hours, I started getting more and more replies. I'm on Twitter as well asking me to change the wording of my story. And I looked at the profiles on Twitter and I saw that they were all people who were gambling on polymarket. And that's when I figured out that what had happened is there was a bet on whether or not an Iranian missile would hit Israel on a specific day. And according to the rules, if a missile is intercepted, even if it causes damage from the fragments, then it's not considered an attack. So all these people wanted me to change my report, so it basically aligned with what they had bet on. And then, once you realized that, you were also, I believe, starting to get some quite threatening messages. Yeah, so I initially
Starting point is 00:10:35 went to Twitter and I wrote, please leave me alone. I'm not going to change my report. And then I started getting actual threats. Someone messaged me on WhatsApp. They started giving me a countdown saying that I have to change it by a certain time. They started threatening me personally. They started threatening my family. They wrote details about where I live and about my parents and my siblings. They said that I'm going to make them lose nearly a million dollars and they're going to invest more than that to quote unquote finish me. I did go straight away to the police with these threats once I started seeing them come through and it was really quite a worrying thing. And did you at any point feel so under pressure you thought maybe I should change my story?
Starting point is 00:11:13 To be honest, for a moment, when I started getting these requests of can you change it to a fragment, for a split second, I thought maybe I was wrong, maybe I got my reporting wrong, do I need to double check this? Do I need to go back again and ask and re-clify with the military and with the rescue forces and everything? And then I'm basically threw that away and said, no, I'm not wasting my time on this. And additionally, I thought, you know, if I do change it, then what's to say they won't come back to me next time with more requests and ask me again to change something else. That might be more important than just a missile hitting it and an open forest. Times of Israel journalist Emmanuel Fabian. In response, a polymarket representative said the company condemns the harassment and threats directed at Mr. Fabian, add in that such behavior violates its terms of service and has no place on its platform. They said prediction markets depend on the integrity of independent reporting, attempts to pressure journalists to alter their reporting undermine that integrity and undermine the markets themselves. So how is the Iran war being felt in the country itself? Because of the internet blackout, it's difficult to hear directly from voices there.
Starting point is 00:12:19 But the BBC has been in touch with one young woman who's been keeping a daily diary. She's continuing to send updates and this is an extract from the latest entries read by one of our producers here in London. Although she's been a long-time opponent of the leadership, her father is very loyal to them and she's experiencing conflicting thoughts as foreign forces bombard her country. Yesterday, it felt as if a decree was issued from the heavens. Put away your firecrackers and arrows,
Starting point is 00:12:49 for absolute power still rests in the hands of God. There was such intense thunder and lightning that we were all terrified. If it weren't for the sky lighting up and the heavy spring rain that followed, we would have been certain we were being bombarded with the most powerful weapons. During the day, the sound. the fighter deaths filled the air. Out of habit, I would write in the group, they're heading to Tehran, and my friend would reply minutes later, yes, darling, they've arrived, don't worry about them,
Starting point is 00:13:23 and we would laugh. When I sent the photos of us at the cafe to some other friends, they both wrote back saying how beautiful and in smiling we looked, despite all the trauma and hardship. I told them we are trying. Truly we are trying. every day not to break and to keep going. I can see how much the level of my concerns has dwindled. War truly does something to you, where you can barely plan as far ahead as tomorrow. Meanwhile, the banks have been experiencing disruption for a few days,
Starting point is 00:13:58 and the apps for Mellie Bank and several others are practically useless. Long lines form at street ATMs, and everyone ask each other, Does it have cash? It's unbelievable that my father and many other have occupied their streets for days. Despite my deep disagreement with them, I must admit it's a clever way to prevent the deployment of your but liquor. The Crown Prince sent his call for protests. If Trump actually knew the Iranian people, perhaps he wouldn't have thrown himself into the swamp of this devastating war. These days when I hear words like Israel, America, Trump, Netanyahu,
Starting point is 00:14:44 martyr, commander, operation, blast wave, target, impact, assassination, transition, prince, revolution, lion and sun. And war, I want to vomit. I've been thinking that I wish I could surrender my citizenship and put miles between, myself and Persian language and its speakers. The news of Larijan is that upset me more than any other news in this period. I felt something collapse inside me. I felt he was one of the few rational people left and his absence will likely cause great harm. On the other hand, thinking about which traitor has enough influence to give the coordinates of these people has wrecked my nerves. My friend's child had a high fever.
Starting point is 00:15:37 tonight and the hospital in that northern city were in bad shape due to chashambesuri casualties. Statistics say they were about 300 deaths and 220 amputations. Human life is that chip. For a few hours the mother in the group offered advice and we all sent Hamdo Shafah, healing prayers, until the child's fever gradually broke. I feel that these days, many of us are like that child, feverish and sick, while the emergency room is busy with other things. If you're lucky, the small kindnesses that exist might lower our fever a little.
Starting point is 00:16:21 But I don't think there will ever be a cure or an end to those moans. A voice diary from Tehran. Still to come in this podcast, what's been the impact of our lives? Australia's landmark social media ban three months on. None of my accounts got banned, which was a bit anticlimactic. I got kicked off social media. I was kind of hoping that it would allow me to be more productive. However, I've found that I've just found other ways to procrastinate.
Starting point is 00:16:51 How did fake rumors about the death of Benjamin Netanyahu spread around the globe? So far that he was even forced to post multiple proof of life videos to quash the rumors. To be very clear, Benjamin Netanyahu is not dead. But what does this episode tell us about disinformation in the age of AI? I'm Asma Khalid with the global story. Listen on Spotify. This is the Global News podcast. Now, if you thought that Donald Trump's threat in January to seize the Danish territory of Greenland by force was extraordinary, how about this?
Starting point is 00:17:41 Denmark was reportedly prepared to buy. blow up runways in Greenland in order to deter an American invasion and sent blood supplies to its troops there in case of a battle with US forces. The Danish national broadcaster DR carried that report, basing it said, on 12 separate sources. Nils Fastrop is an investigative reporter with DR. What we learn from talking to our sources for several weeks and these sources, it's important to say they are really central key sources here within the Danish military and also France and German sources that play a central role in this conflict. And what we learned from our conversations is that Trump's attack on Venezuela in early January
Starting point is 00:18:27 and the aftermath of that, especially some of the statements that came from him himself and from some of his advisors, including Stephen Miller, that created a very tangible fear that a U.S. attack against Greenland could be imminent. wanted to use military force to try and prevent U.S. military from taking over Greenland. Part of that planning that went on from Danish side in collaboration with German and especially France military involved drawing up plans for transporting explosives to Greenland in order to be able to blow up runways in Nuke, in Ganga Luziac and in other places in Greenland, in the event that there would be a US attempt to use these runways as a kind of bridgehead into Greenland.
Starting point is 00:19:18 In their minds, it was close to happening. Well, both the US and Denmark are founding members of the NATO alliance. Rasmus Yarlow is the chair of the Danish Defence Committee. Johnny Diamond asked him if he was surprised by these revelations. No, I'm not surprised. Of course, I cannot. I'm not allowed to reveal whatever operational details that. I have knowledge of. So I'm not confirming the information that the journalists have revealed,
Starting point is 00:19:45 but it should not be a surprise that preparations were made, and it should not be a surprise that if we were attacked, then of course Danish forces would fight back in every possible way. It may not be a surprise to you. I have to say, I think a fair number of people were quite surprised when they read the detail of it, that Denmark was absolutely prepared to go to war, to defend its territory. No one should be surprised that if you attack a country, of course, that country is going to fight back. I have the impression that the Americans didn't get how serious this was. They thought they could just take this lightly. I heard Stephen Miller, the security advisor, say at one point that no one's going to fight us over Greenland. And he's absolutely wrong about that. If anyone invades
Starting point is 00:20:31 a territory that belongs to Denmark, of course Danish armed forces will fight back and you will be at war with Denmark. And we understand, of course, full world the size difference between us and the United States. We understand that they're a very tough opponent, have a much, much stronger military than we have. But of course, it is our duty and the duty of our forces to defend our territory and make it expensive for anyone who tries to invade us. So that should not be a surprise to anyone, and you should understand how serious it is to threaten allies with invasion. You mentioned how strong American forces are, and we've seen examples of that over the years, and more recently.
Starting point is 00:21:05 How long do you think that Denmark might have held out? I don't want to give an estimate of that, but Greenland is a very, very big place. So taking all of Greenland would take a long time. And the only thing you would achieve is you would have military control of very hostile environment with a population that absolutely would hate you for having invaded them. So nothing good would have come out of that.
Starting point is 00:21:28 And we're happy the Americans seem to have given up on that idea, but just that we came into that situation where we actually had to fear that and make preparations for it is completely insane. You think that the Americans have given up on the idea of seizing Greenland by force? You think the risk of invasion has passed? Trump has said so. So the threat came from his words, and he has downscaled his words now. They are more calm and peaceful.
Starting point is 00:21:53 He says now that the military invasion is off the table after for a long time refusing to rule out a military invasion. So that is an improvement. So we're glad that's the case. But I don't think the Americans have given up on the idea of taking over Greenland by other means. So the crisis is not over before the Americans agree that they are not going to get Greenland. And we have not heard a statement like that yet. That was Rasmus Yarlow. It's been over three months since Australia introduced its world first ban on social media for under 16s,
Starting point is 00:22:30 kicking young teens off TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, and Snapchat. Criticised by tech companies, but widely welcomed by parents and carers, it was a bold move which is being closely watched by many other governments around the world. Katie Watson sent this report from a school in Sydney. It's a huge social experiment. With Australian teens, the guinea pigs. And when the legislation kicked in on December the 10th, the whole world was watching it play.
Starting point is 00:23:03 lay out. And then the gradient is negative 2 over 3. We could choose to put the negative 3. More than 2 million youngsters here were targeted by the ban. So, three months on, what's their new reality? We went to PLC Sydney, a school in the city's inner west to speak to some teens. I have Instagram, I have TikTok, I have Snapchat. I wasn't kicked off of any of them.
Starting point is 00:23:24 I know of three girls out of my entire year group, which is 180, that have been impacted. None of my accounts got banned, which was a bit anticlimactic. I got kicked off social media. I was kind of hoping that it would allow me to be more productive. However, I've found that I've just found other ways to procrastinate. Despite this anecdotal evidence that many teens are still on platforms, the government has released some data, saying that within weeks of the band starting,
Starting point is 00:23:52 4.7 million accounts belonging to under 16s had been closed down. So does that mean it's working? Professor Amanda Third is co-director of the young and resilient, Research Centre at Western Sydney University. What might not be clear to the public is that there are sort of two stages of implementing the ban. The first has been for platforms to identify all those accounts of underage users who've declared their age to be under 16.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And the second phase, which will roll out in the next six months, is about using age inference technologies to identify which users, according to their habits, their connections, their practices, which users are underage and they'll then be removed from the platform. So those who we spoke to thinking they're safe aren't necessarily. Well, not necessarily. I mean, again, we expect that more users will be caught by the legislation in the new future. PLC Sydney's principal, Paul Burgess,
Starting point is 00:24:52 accepts it's going to take a long time to make a real difference. I don't actually think we're going to see the real benefits from the ban for about four or five years' time. The real move is for the student who's currently an 10 or 11-year-old and the parents not buying a phone for them until they finish maybe when they're 15. And that's the challenge for countries like the UK, looking at adopting laws of their own. They're having to base their decisions on public sentiment and little hard data.
Starting point is 00:25:22 I'm Harriet Alder. I'm 15 years old and I'm in year 11 at school. Harriet has two sisters, Beatrix and Tamzin. She's the only one with social media. They've got cousins in the UK. So what advice would they have for British kids facing a ban of their own? I actually got Snapchat in England when I was on holiday there and I was with my cousin when I got it. So she actually recommended putting my age a bit older.
Starting point is 00:25:46 So I think that even though at that point in time they had no idea about this ban, lots of people are aware of putting your age a lot older. And any advice you give to a teen thinking my life is going to be ruined? Quickly change your age right now. You can't do that though. People might come at me saying this. But I feel like if you've never experienced it and you never get addicted to the algorithms,
Starting point is 00:26:09 then it's really not that bad. Like, sometimes I'm a bit left out from some inside jokes that are on social media and some trends. But for the most part, I'm fine. The government hopes that Byteley's trying to keep teens off social media it's starting a conversation and a cultural shift. Katie Watson speaking to some slightly disingenuous, Australian teens.
Starting point is 00:26:33 The Oscars have been and gone for another year, but instead of talking about the films or the actors who took home a gong, social media is awash with chat about how thin everyone was, and they're not just talking about the women. The problem is that young people in particular usually want to emulate their heroes
Starting point is 00:26:50 and there are fears that this latest got to be thinner than thin phase is getting out of hand. Wendy Urquhart reports. Everywhere you look, models, TV presenters, celebrities and actors are shedding kilos like there's no tomorrow. It seems more and more people are determined to look perfect, but forget about hitting the gym. These days most prefer to take the easy way out by using diet drugs like Mujaro,
Starting point is 00:27:17 Wagovi or Ozenpec. Susie Orbach, who's a psychoanalyst and author of That is a feminist issue, says it's a trend that's deeply worrying. It's encompassing all different age group, social classes, ethnicities with a sense of despair. There's a kind of uniform look being presented for anybody who's in public, and that has seeped itself into the culture in general. I don't think it's specifically Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:27:44 She's right. People who are not celebrities are splashing the cash to achieve the perfect body image, like the ones they see on magazine covers the world over. So what does that tell us? It's saying that we can manufacture bodies, that both to do with Mungaro, but also to do. to do with procedures that are now considered perfectly okay, resculpting bodies in ways that for some people,
Starting point is 00:28:09 it's a tremendous relief to not be feeling so abject and so terrible, they can't get their body to fit in and conform. But for other people, I think it's a signal that nobody is safe because bodies always have to be fitting into some other cultural or visual representation. Let's face it, everyone wants to look the best that they're, can, but experts are adamant that skipping chips and having a salad instead is a much better, healthier way to reach your ideal weight. Hmm, maybe I should try that. It may be healthier, but just pass me the chocolate. Wendy Urquhart reporting there, it's the date that every English
Starting point is 00:28:49 school child knows 1066 the year of the Battle of Hastings when the English army under King Harold was decisively beaten by invading French forces led by the Duke of Normandy, 8.6.5. the battle led to a profound transformation of English society and the introduction of French language and culture. For some time now, it's been believed that one of the key reasons for King Harold's defeat was that he led his men on a long march to the site of the battle. But new research by the University of East Anglia argues that that didn't happen and was the result of a misunderstanding in Victorian times in the 19th century,
Starting point is 00:29:27 as Rebecca Drought reports. The near 200-mile 10-day March of King Harold's army to face the Norman invasion is such a famous moment in English history it was re-enacted to mark the 950th anniversary just a decade ago. But only a mad general, Professor Tom Licence argues, would have sent all his men from Yorkshire to Sussex on foot if ships were available. He's been looking again at the evidence for how the troops made their way south and believes the journey was undertaken largely by sea. He says contemporary sources describe hundreds of ships being used to support Harold's campaign against the Viking invasion in the north before heading back south. And he argues there's no evidence of a forced march. When we realise that Harold had a fleet and a land force and is using the two in tandem, he becomes a much more sophisticated general mounting complex operations on the same scale as those of his opponents.
Starting point is 00:30:22 And I think once we accept that the most likely scenario is that he took a fleet, down to London in four days rather than a hard march in 12 or 14, one can no longer criticise him for recklessness or impulsiveness. Indeed, it seems to me that he's doing everything right. Victorian historians, he says, misinterpreted a reference to the fleet coming home as meaning it was disbanded, but their home base was in London. That report by Rebecca Drought. And that's all from us for now. If you want to get in touch, you can email us at Global Podcast at BBC.co.uk. And don't forget our sister podcast, the global story, which goes in-depth and beyond the headlines on one big story. This edition of the Global News podcast was mixed by Stephen Bailey
Starting point is 00:31:11 and the producer was Nikki Varico. The editor is Karen Martin. I'm Keith Adams. Until next time, goodbye. How did fake rumors about the death of Benjamin Netanyahu spread around the globe? so far that he was even forced to post multiple proof of life videos to quash the rumors. To be very clear, Benjamin Netanyahu is not dead. But what does this episode tell us about disinformation in the age of AI? I'm Asma Khalid with the global story. Listen on Spotify.

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