Global News Podcast - Trump hosts President Xi at state banquet

Episode Date: September 25, 2026

Tech billionaires join Donald Trump and Xi Jinping for dinner at the White House at the end of the first full day of the Chinese President's visit to the US. Mr Xi said that in their discussions earli...er, he and his host had reached "common understanding on many issues" but didn't elaborate. No concrete breakthroughs have been reported on contentious matters such as Iran and AI. Also: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu fiercely defends military action in the Middle East to a half empty UN General Assembly. Earlier, the Palestinian leader told the same gathering Israel was threatening his people's existence. The Italian government approves a ban on the burqa and niqab in schools. Hundreds of people gather in the Venezuelan capital, Caracas, to call for the return of the exiled opposition figure, Maria Corina Machado. The eviction of an 87-year-old in Spain triggers angry protests and put the country’s housing crisis under the spotlight. And new research on how well dogs can understand the human language. The Global News Podcast brings you the breaking news you need to hear, as it happens. Listen for the latest headlines and current affairs from around the world. Politics, economics, climate, business, technology, health – we cover it all with expert analysis and insight. Get the news that matters, delivered twice a day on weekdays and daily at weekends, plus special bonus episodes reacting to urgent breaking stories. Follow or subscribe now and never miss a moment. Get in touch: globalpodcast@bbc.co.ukPhoto: Annabelle Gordon/POOL/EPA/Shutterstock Image description: US President Donald J. Trump and first lady Melania Trump greet President Xi Jinping and Madame Peng Liyuan at the White House in Washington

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Starting point is 00:01:11 powerful business leaders in the world to the White House for a banquet. A mass walkout at the UN as Benjamin Netanyahu gives a robust defense of Israel's actions in Gaza, while the Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas said Israel threatened the very existence of his people. Italy's parliament bans, girls wearing the burqa and niqab in schools. Also in this podcast. This is an example for speech shaping the brain of a non-human animal. Animals that don't have such complex linguistic abilities can get there. Forget walkies, new evidence dogs can tell the difference between consonants and vowels.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Some of the most powerful men in the world have been meeting at a banquet in Washington. Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping shared a three-course meal in the White House with some of the biggest names in the tech world, like Open AIs Sam Altman and Elon Musk, at a time when the calls for something to be urgently done to protect the world from the dangers of AI have never been louder. And despite long-running disputes between the US and China over trade tariffs and national security,
Starting point is 00:02:29 standing before the dining room holding a champagne flute, Donald Trump said the relationship between him and Mr. Xi had never been better. As the leaders of our two nations, President Xi and I, both understand that we represent different systems, but the ties between our people endure, and we've never gotten along better. Together we can continue to build a relationship that promotes prosperity and security for future generations. The state dinner wrapped up the first full day of Xi Jinping's visit to the U.S., the
Starting point is 00:03:06 Chinese president's first trip to the country in over a decade. Donald Trump said they had a great meeting and that tremendous progress is being made. But speaking earlier in the day, Xi Jinping said the two nations must do more to collaborate on regulating AI. and responsibility to develop and manage AI for good and ensure that the development of AI is always under human control and serves the well-being of the people. For his analysis of the visit so far, I spoke to our China correspondent, Stephen MacDonald.
Starting point is 00:03:55 The minimum expectation from China's side was that the trade war, detente would continue, and that's continuing. but obviously what's quite important for the Chinese government is to do something on AI. And we're still waiting to see if there's been anything concrete that they've agreed on. Now, the reason I say this is because I'm looking at the propaganda as delivered here through state-controlled media. Now, take the Global Times this morning. There is a piece, and it's all about AI. It's all about the two of them meeting in terms of the new challenges of AI.
Starting point is 00:04:33 and, I mean, says it pretty clearly in this piece. This meeting is expected to provide new guidance for exploring a model in which competition and cooperation can coexist in these emerging technological fields. Now, you know, they could say something like, well, we're exploring a model. You know, you don't need to say anything that's solid. It may will be in the coming hours. We do get some information that says, we've laid the groundwork for the means in which we can further discuss this. But, you know, in this same piece from the Global Times, it is warning that AI is not like any other industry.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And the wording is beyond the scope of conventional technological industries. And I think most people would agree with that. I mean, certainly these are massive new challenges, not only the global superpowers, but that everyone has to deal with. And I think from the Chinese side, they would hope that they can actually say to their people, Shijing Pink, and say, look, we're at least doing. something about this because I think people here like in other countries are worried about AI.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Yeah, and there has been words said that suggests that Xi Jinping appears to take the risks rather more seriously than Donald Trump. I think that's a pretty fair analysis. It's certainly the way it's felt here. When you consider that the Chinese government's saying, look, we need
Starting point is 00:05:52 more regulation of this and Donald Trump, who thinks that AI is going to somehow catapult his country ahead of China and maintain its position in the world as an economic leader, well, he thinks if you do anything to rein it back in any way, then it can hamper these US companies which are developing AI. But following that, the huge story we had yesterday, that the Australian government has claimed that AI has
Starting point is 00:06:19 hacked a major government department, the one responsible for all the health insurance of Australians. I mean, it's huge that an AI program would do this. It's a major. It's a. I'm not. It's a. I just shows how dangerous it can be, and you imagine what else it's capable of. So I think around the world the pressure is going to be coming on the US to do something about putting in much stronger guardrails on AI. Stephen MacDonald. In New York, reports that around 100 protesters have been detained after gathering en masse ahead of Benjamin Netanyahu's appearance before the UN General Assembly.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Hollywood stars, including Susan Sarandon, were taken away by police after chanting for Mr. Netanyahu's arrest outside the UN headquarters. Inside, protests two for the second year in a row, with delegations streaming out of the chambers as the Israeli Prime Minister took to the stage. Ordering the hall, please. Thank you. If there are any other moral cowards who haven't yet left this hall, please do so now. Benjamin Netanyahu responding there, he went on to give a robust defence of his actions in Gaza and elsewhere in the Middle East. Our Middle East analyst, Sebastian Usher, was watching. That was a big walkout, a lot of delegations more than 70.
Starting point is 00:07:55 But he used it to his advantage, I think you could say, Mr Netanyahu. I mean, he's very adept at this. It's his ability to articulate. It's his power as a presenter which has made him so dominant in Israeli politics and such a forceful spokesman for Israel for so many years. So he, as we heard, they're called them moral coward, saying that they were the ones who essentially are on the wrong side of history, that Israel is on the right side of history,
Starting point is 00:08:20 and that the moral failure that they're showing is something that Israel and his leadership has shown up, that he had choices to make and that they were the right choices. These are points that he's made many times before, that for Israel it has no choice. but to win a war like this has got nowhere else to go. He praised the Israeli people for the sacrifices they've made. I pledge a sacred vow.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Your sacrifice will not be in vain. We will continue to defend our state. We will continue to win because we have no other choice. He talked about the seven wars for Israel's fighting and the eighth being about information and the truth. and accusing those who say that Israel's committed genocide of telling a terrible lie of being hypocrites because they don't protest against Iran. They don't protest, you know, against other conflicts. But that's kind of exasperation in a way.
Starting point is 00:09:24 And even that, I think, is more directed to a domestic Israeli or in a sense of uniting around this sense. It's a double-edged sword. The isolation that Israel is now experiencing diplomatically in terms of public opinion across the world. world. It's pretty much unprecedented and Mr. Netanyahu could be held and is held by a large number of people in Israel responsible for that. But at the same time, playing that card is also a way of unifying Israel, saying the world is turning against us. And this all, in the end, revolves around the word genocide. He used that answering the gathering number of people who defining what Israel's been doing in Gaza as genocide, saying that that's the biggest lie of all. And that in fact, what Israel did
Starting point is 00:10:08 on October the 7th was to defeat a genocidal attempt by Hamas. Sebastian Usher. Hours before that speech, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas told the UN that Israeli policies, in particular, the illegal expansion of Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank, threatened the very life and existence of the Palestinian people on their homeland. He was speaking in a recorded message after being denied a US visa. Our State Department correspondent Tom Bateman sent this report from the UN in New York. Sitting in his office in Ramallah, Mahmoud Abbas said the American ban on his travel to the UN was unlawful and punitive.
Starting point is 00:10:50 He argued it punished the Palestinian people for seeking accountability against an occupying force at the international courts. He described Israel's actions in Gaza as a genocidal war and suggested, along with settler attacks in the West Bank, Palestinians were now at risk of the greatest wave of expulsions from their land since 1948. We will not leave our homeland. We will not accept displacement. And we will not allow anyone to decide our future on our behalf. We decide for ourselves. We will extend our hands to a peace based on international legitimacy so that our freedom and independence can be achieved. But the 90-year-old leader, now 21 years.
Starting point is 00:11:33 into his elected four-year term, heads an organisation facing a crisis of legitimacy among Palestinians themselves who see it as powerless to deliver self-determination. Tom Bateman. The Italian government has approved a ban on the burqa and Nicar in schools, along with a limit on the number of pupils who speak little Italian in any one class. The Prime Minister, Georgia Maloney, said the rules were tools of common sense that do not divide but truly help to integrate. The leader of the opposition accused the government of a witch hunt
Starting point is 00:12:07 at the expense of children. Stephanie Prentice reports. Italy's Prime Minister, Georgia Maloney, taking to the stage a Palazzo Kiji to announce the latest move to settle an integration debate that's been intensifying in Italian politics. For us, anyone who comes to Italy and wants to build their future here must learn our language, understand our culture and respect our rules.
Starting point is 00:12:34 It is the only serious way to welcome them. How to manage a multi-ethnic school system and whether to allow Islamic face coverings has long been a source of political tension for the coalition government. This measure introduces a requirement to learn Italian for parents of foreign students with serious difficulties integrating into the school system and it bans the burqa and the nicar in schools. Along with new rules on languages and children arriving at school without face coverings,
Starting point is 00:13:04 a 30% cap will be imposed on pupils without Italian citizenship or with poor knowledge of the Italian language. Opinion on this was divided between parents at DiDanato Elementary School in Rome, with some calling the plan's common sense, others questioning where children are supposed to be. be educated if their local school reaches the new limits on foreign students. Georgia Maloney has offered reassurance the thresholds will primarily affect new arrivals and her government say the plans will improve educational outcomes and promote integration.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Opposition politicians and children's charities fear they'll broaden divisions. What the public think more broadly could play out when they go to the polls in Italy's general election in 2020. with immigration set to be a significant campaign issue. Stephanie Prentice. Still to come in this podcast. They are inhuman. You can't make somebody live for seven years as I have done with a machete at my throat.
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Starting point is 00:15:17 This podcast invites you to browse the shelves and find stories that will linger long after you've left this place. From Gothic masterpieces to Pulpy Penny Dreadfuls, join me, Colin Morgan, with new episodes twice a week. Find the Haunted Library wherever you get your podcasts. This is the Global News Podcast. To Venezuela's capital now, where hundreds of people have taken to the streets demanding the return of the exiled opposition figure Maria Karina Machado. Come back, we are waiting for you, one of the messages echoing through the streets of Caracas.
Starting point is 00:16:04 On Wednesday, Machado's team said she had tried three times over the course of the day to enter the country by both sea and air. Her boat was cancelled and neither of her flights were permitted to land. This comes as the country's acting president, Delci Rodriguez, met President Trump in what she described as a historic encounter. It was their first meeting since U.S. forces deposed her former boss, Nicholas Maduro, who's being held in a prison cell a few kilometres away. They were meeting at the UN General Assembly, where Delci Rodriguez announced that Venezuelan elections would go ahead. It's not clear when, and this Venezuelan called for a date to be set. She said there will be elections in Venezuela, but when? When will those elections take place?
Starting point is 00:16:53 How long do they plan to wait before holding elections? We demand elections now, immediate elections. Maria Carina Machado smuggled her way out of the country in what was an extraordinary top-secret mission. Could she smuggle herself back in? I've been getting the views of BBC monitoring's Luis Farado. What she has been trying to do, of course, was very risky at great personal danger for herself when she left Venezuela in an operation
Starting point is 00:17:20 which, from what we understand, had the active cooperation of U.S. authorities, and she has been exploring multiple options to return to Venezuela. It would seem that the government of Delsi Rodriguez would be hostile in principle to her return. Of course, she is still by far the biggest figure of the Venezuelan opposition. And of course, Delsi Rodriguez right now is asking in what will have been seen by many as a political triumph for her, her appearance at the United Nations, and of course her appearance with President Trump. So certainly the Venezuelan government would not be happy in a circumstance in which she returned to Venezuela right now, particularly in this moment after she has obtained the recognition she wanted in some form
Starting point is 00:18:07 or another from President Trump agreeing to meet with her, and of course her appearance in the United Nations. But again, there is so much speculation about what is going on in Venezuela that it is hard to know the actual facts about what is going on. Certainly, there is a lot of demand among many sectors in Venezuela for a political change. That is the political change. So many people expected after the U.S. intervention, and they've been growing louder in their demands for elections soon. And Maria Corina Machao would presumably be a big part of that. So there is understandably a lot of anticipation in Venezuela to what could be her next move. So anticipation, interim president Deli Rodriguez, has promised elections, but really, how likely are they? A lot of members of the
Starting point is 00:18:54 Venezuelan opposition are growing very upset with the situation. They had great expectations of what could happen after Nicola's Maduro was taken to the US. And they expected a move soon into full democracy for Venezuela. What we have been seeing in their comments recently is that they are growing a lot more skeptical about what the U.S. could be thinking about this whole process. Of course, the United States has said that the end process of this would be elections, but they have been notoriously ambiguous about any possible date, any possible calendar. And of course, some people are pointing to, for example, President Trump's latest statement about his intentions regarding Venezuela and oil, his phrase about saying that to the
Starting point is 00:19:42 victor go the spoils of this situation, suggesting that his government gives a lot more priority to the situation with the oil and obtaining control of natural resources in Venezuela, and that in that sense, establishing elections and full democracy in Venezuela would not be much of a priority for them. Once again, the U.S. government insists that the end result of this will be democracy, but people certainly want to know a lot of people in Venezuela. I certainly want to know when this democracy will be fully operative, when these elections will occur. And they have been growing louder in their demands for a much more specific calendar of return to democracy,
Starting point is 00:20:19 of return to elections in Venezuela. Luis Faradou. Marie Carman is an 87-year-old woman with mobility issues who has lived in her home in an affluent part of Madrid since she was a child, taking the rental contract over from her parents. But this week, she was dramatically evicted, taken out on a stretcher amid crowds of supporters who'd gathered outside. Three previous attempts to evict her were blocked by the courts, and the case has received increasing media attention and become emblematic of a broader problem across Spain. Guy Hedgeco reports from Madrid.
Starting point is 00:20:57 The moment that Marie Karaman was evicted from her flat in central Madrid, the home she had lived in for seven. decades. Hundreds of supporters turned out to protest against the eviction. Madi Karaman had been paying rent of 500 euros per month, but when a property company bought the flat a few years ago, it raised the rent to five times that amount. It eventually settled on 1,650 euros, still way beyond her means. The 87-year-old spoke just before her eviction. They are unhumanous. They are inhuman.
Starting point is 00:21:48 They are inhuman. You can't make somebody live for seven years as I have done, with a machete at my throat. And then they cut my throat, and all just to make money at other people's expense. In the hours after the eviction, protesters took to the streets of Madrid and other cities,
Starting point is 00:22:12 clashing with police, who fired rubber bullets in the air. These people were angry, not just at the plight of this elderly woman, but at a housing market in which rental costs have soared in recent years, leaving millions of Spaniards struggling to get by. Economist Javier Diaz Jimenez says a lack of supply of housing is at the root of the problem.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Clearly there is an excess demand for housing in the city centres, Lots of Spaniards, they own their houses. So this is a problem that affects especially young people. The socialist-led government says it sympathizes with those who are struggling, but many want to see it take drastic action. As the crisis has worsened, more and more people, particularly youngsters, have become involved in activism. This week, Madrid is hosting an international conference on tenants' rights.
Starting point is 00:23:17 One of the organisers is Miriam Buoy of the local tenants' union. She protested outside Marie Kahnman's flat before her eviction, and she warns that anger is building. If this continues like this, the momentum is going to grow, and this is going to become a civil problem in the streets, because we believe the laws are not legit anymore. We are in a moment where not even a full salary is able to give you a space to live. If this is not solved soon enough, we promise you we are going to organize for this rebellion to happen.
Starting point is 00:23:52 I'm outside the building where Maddie Kahneman lived for seven decades, and it's very quiet now following the drama and tension that was seen here during her eviction. So the big question now is whether this particular case, which has moved so many Spaniards and triggered so much debate, whether it will have a broader impact on the country's housing crisis. Guy Hedgeco reporting from Madrid. More details have been emerging on the extent of the cyber attack on the FBI earlier this week.
Starting point is 00:24:28 It seems that hackers have stolen the personal information of every member of staff that works for the Federal Bureau of Investigation in the US. That's around 38,000 people. Phone numbers, home addresses, photo-eastern. all in the hands of a cybercrime gang. In a statement on social media, FBI officials say they are actively and aggressively investigating the matter. Rebecca Kesby spoke to the technology journalist Chris Stockle Walker and asked him, what do we know about the group Shiny Hunters that's thought to be behind the hack?
Starting point is 00:25:04 A decent amount, although not everything that we would perhaps like to know, Rebecca. So there are a loose international cybercrime group, really special. specialising in data extortion, so taking information and then either extorting a ransom or extorting some sort of change from their victims. They've been active for nearly a decade now since around about 2019 or so, and their modus operandi is effectively breaking into organisations, exfiltrating that data, then using the threat of publishing that or putting it up for sale to try and put victims under pressure. Yeah, now it doesn't seem as if they want cash for this particular hack. They want something else. Can you explain?
Starting point is 00:25:42 They want effectively a retraction from the FBI. It is a really notable incident, this one. They, alongside taking this data, managed to hack into the FBI website and put up a statement in place of what was originally on that website, saying that they give the FBI a week or so to either correct or remove so-called false allegations that have been made earlier this year, which described Gainty Hunters as a cybercriminal group specialising in large-scale data breaches and extortion. They dispute that.
Starting point is 00:26:12 say they want that to be changed. You would have thought that the FBI in particular had particularly strong, you know, cyber security. How did they manage to do this? It's not entirely clear. The organisation themselves, shiny hunters, they say that they had managed to exploit what's called a zero-day exploit,
Starting point is 00:26:31 which means a previously unknown issue with a database that is used by the FBI to try and store this information. Although with these sorts of things and cyber criminals, you always have to be very wary of how they actually describe what they've done. They like to cover their tracks and perhaps mislead somewhat. So it may well have been the case that that has happened, but likewise, what they tend to do and what they have done in previous instances to use social engineering to mimic or replicate trusted processes and trusted
Starting point is 00:27:02 individuals to convince people to hand over effectively the keys to the kingdom. What is the fear that they might do with this hacked information? Well, the 38,000 odd details that are available there have intensely personal information. Obviously, these agents operate often in the utmost secrecy. So the concern, I think, is that it gets spared widely, both within cyber criminal networks and also beyond. Technology journalist Chris Stockle Walker. If you've ever wondered whether your dog actually understands what you're saying, scientists think they may be listening more closely than you realize.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Researchers in Hungary have found similarities in the way, dogs and humans process spoken words after comparing the brain activity of 20 people and 20 of our canine friends. Here's our health reporter, Philippa Roxby. Dogs usually understand a few crucial words, mostly relating to food, walks and balls, even if they don't always respond to them. But what's going on in their brains when they're listening to our commands? This research suggests striking similarities in the way dog brains and human brains decode the rhythm of words in speech. From the age of about one, humans use consonants to break up speech into manageable chunks, something called consonant bias. No other species, even closely related primates, have been found
Starting point is 00:28:24 to have this trait. But the Hungarian study authors say they found the first evidence of consonant bias in dogs. Attila Anditch is lead author and brain researcher from Elta University. in Budapest. The interesting thing is that this is an example for speech shaping the brain of a non-human animal. Human speech shapes brain functions of a non-human animal. And so this shows that to have a language-tuned, a speech-tuned brain does not require complex linguistic abilities, because also animals that don't have such complex linguistic abilities can get there. For the study, dogs and humans were played a continuous stream of speech-like sounds, and the pattern of their brain activity was analysed.
Starting point is 00:29:09 When consonant sounds dominated, the frequency of the pattern in dog brains was similar to humans. Even dogs which hadn't been family pets from birth or hadn't been exposed to human speech early in life showed the same trait. Not all languages are consonant heavy, like Hungarian and English, however. The researchers say they would now love to carry out the same experiment
Starting point is 00:29:31 in dogs used to hearing languages like Danish or Mandarin. Philippa Roxby. And that's all from us for now. If you want to get in touch, you can email us at global podcast at BBC.co.com. You can also find us on X at BBC World Service. Use the hashtag Global NewsPod. And don't forget our sibling podcast, the Global Story, which goes in-depth and beyond the headlines on one big story.
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