Global News Podcast - Trump warns Iran deal 'not final' ahead of signing on Friday

Episode Date: June 17, 2026

Donald Trump has warned that the Iran deal - which is set to be formally signed on Friday - is "not final". Speaking on the last day of the G7 summit, Mr Trump said the US could resume attacks if the ...agreement doesn't work out, warning "we'll go right back to dropping bombs". Meanwhile, the US blockade on the Strait of Hormuz appears to be easing. Three Iranian oil tankers have now passed through, although as many as 600 vessels are still stranded. Also in this podcast: Amazon is dethroned as the world’s fifth most valuable company by Elon Musk's SpaceX. Scientists say more coral reefs may be able to survive climate change than originally thought. Five men have been arrested in connection with an alleged attack plot targeting the White House. Lionel Messi becomes the highest scorer in World Cup history. And we discuss the wins and failures of fashion on the pitch. The Global News Podcast brings you the breaking news you need to hear, as it happens. Listen for the latest headlines and current affairs from around the world. Politics, economics, climate, business, technology, health – we cover it all with expert analysis and insight. Get the news that matters, delivered twice a day on weekdays and daily at weekends, plus special bonus episodes reacting to urgent breaking stories. Follow or subscribe now and never miss a moment. Get in touch: globalpodcast@bbc.co.ukPhoto: US President Donald Trump at G7 summit in Evian-les-Bains Credit: Reuters

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. The biggest men's football world cup in history is here. 48 teams and a record 104 games being played across the United States, Canada and Mexico. And the more than the score podcast is bringing you more than just the latest results, stats and fixtures. We're taking a closer look at the new teams competing, the Cup's standout stars and the fans who are shaping the tournament. More than the score from the BBC World Service. Listen now, wherever you get your BBC podcasts. He's widely recognised as one of the greatest footballers in history.
Starting point is 00:00:45 He's won the prestigious Ballandour Award five times. He's the all-time leading goal scorer in professional football. And according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, he's the first active footballer in history to achieve billionaire status. Guess who we're talking about yet? That's right. Good Bad Billionaire is exploring the life and fortune of football icon, Cristiano Ronaldo. That's a good bad billionaire from the BBC World Service.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Listen now, wherever you get your BBC podcasts. This is the Global News podcast from the BBC World Service. Hi, I'm Ankara, and at 15 hours GMT on Wednesday the 17th of June, these are our main stories. As the first tankers move through the strait of Hormuz, President Trump warns that the Iran deal is not final. The FBI says five men have been arrested in connection with an alleged attempted drone attack plot
Starting point is 00:01:39 targeting Sunday's mixed martial arts event at the White House. And SpaceX overtakes Amazon as the world's fifth most valuable company. Also in this podcast, why coral reefs may be more resilient to climate change than we thought. And when we speak about Congo, we speak about Ebola, we speak about war. And I want to bring some different vision of Congo. Football and fashion collide at the World Cup. Find out my favourite jerseys and why they've become a big part of popular culture. As the G7 summit in Avion wraps up, leaders have hailed the U.S.-Iran deal as a historic opportunity to end the Middle East War.
Starting point is 00:02:24 And there have been signs that the U.S. blockade of Iranian ships, which was launched after Iran, closed the strait of Hormuz to international shipping, is easing. Three Iranian oil tankers have now passed through the blockade, although as many as 600 vessels are still stranded. The International Chamber of Shipping represents the world's national shipowner associations and over 80% of the World Merchant Fleet. John Storpert is their marine director. So how long will it take before things return to normal?
Starting point is 00:02:54 Obviously, firstly, we need a meaningful peace deal that is respected by all sides. Then there needs to be mine clearance in the traffic separation scheme to remove the threat of mines. Confidence will need to return to the ships that are stuck there and that will vary depending on the company and the threats that they could potentially face. And I think we will also need to see, at least in the early stages, of any return to transiting, really a coordinated effort. There are currently about four different ideas on the table with different supporters from the IMO to the US, France and Europe. Looking at ways to open those straits, that needs to cohere into a single understandable plan
Starting point is 00:03:36 and industry needs to be involved in that planning. The memorandum of understanding between the U.S. and Iran is due to be signed in Switzerland on Friday. President Trump was asked if the one-and-a-half-page text that has not yet been published was now final. No, it's not final. It's a memorandum of understanding. And if I don't like it, we'll go back to shooting at them,
Starting point is 00:03:59 dropping bombs on their head. If I don't like it, if they don't behave, we'll go right back to dropping bombs. right smack in the middle of their head, okay, because they've misbehaved for 47 years. So what do we know about its contents? I asked our diplomatic correspondent, Paul Adams. I think it's worth emphasizing that we don't yet know the true text of the memorandum that is due to be signed at the ceremony on Friday, but that there are now versions of this floating around being reported by numerous news organizations and all essentially reporting the same document.
Starting point is 00:04:36 And it is much as expected that the US will immediately lift its blockade of Iranian ports, restore traffic from Iranian ports within 30 days, that the Iranians for their part will also take steps immediately to ensure that the movement of merchant ships is resumed, obviously taking account of the possibility of there being mines and other things to deal with in the Strait of Hormuz, and that various other things will happen as the process unfolds. The US, for example, will issue waivers allowing Iran to export its oil, and it'll do that immediately. And as the talks progress, we will also see the unfreezing of billions of dollars of frozen Iranian assets. So there seem to be quite a lot of carrots for Iran in this text that we're looking at. When it comes to the all-important question of Iran's nuclear program, there is one, quite general commitment, which is, and I'm quoting, and again, I should emphasize, we don't know if this is the final wording, that Iran reiterates that it will never produce a nuclear weapon. Now, that basically means Iran will say, as it has said many times in the past, that it does not intend to develop a nuclear weapon. That doesn't really represent anything very new. Clearly, the detail regarding Iran's nuclear program will be a big, big focus of these negotiations,
Starting point is 00:06:04 which are due to last for 60 days, but that that timetable is extendable by mutual consent. So it's a little open-ended. Another key part of this will be the pressure on Israel to stop its airstrikes in southern Lebanon. At the moment, it seems to be falling on deaf ears. So what more do we know about this part of the deal? Well, I mean, you're right. Lebanon is important because the opening paragraph of this draft memorandum that everyone is reporting says that there will be an immediate and permanent end to the war on all.
Starting point is 00:06:34 all fronts, including Lebanon. So that is going to be an absolutely crucial element to this. Will Israel refrain from launching attacks inside Lebanon? Will Hezbollah, for its part, also observe a permanent ceasefire? Will Israeli troops withdraw from the positions that they have occupied in southern Lebanon in the last few months? All of these questions need to be addressed, and it is in Lebanon, I think many people will say it is in Lebanon where this whole thing could come unstuck. Just finally, is there confidence that this deal will not be a full start, as we've seen in previous weeks and months?
Starting point is 00:07:12 Well, look, we know that it has been electronically signed. It is sort of a fact, even though, you know, frustratingly, we still haven't been presented with a formal version of it. But for a host of reasons, and we've alluded to one, Lebanon, it could all come unstuck. And there are plenty of people who are predicting that already. In Israel, there's enormous unease of... about this, with opposition figures saying that this is not a deal that at all addresses Israel's concerns. It doesn't obviously involve regime change or the end of the Islamic Republic in Iran.
Starting point is 00:07:47 And, you know, the commitments on the nuclear issue are vague at best. So there are plenty of people who don't like it. And there are plenty of reasons why the negotiations could come unstuck. I mean, let's not forget that when the international community negotiated with Iran the last time around leading to that deal in 2015. It was 20 months of extremely detailed negotiations, which resulted in a deal, which was imperfect, but it held until Donald Trump withdrew from it in 2018. So it does look as though we're embarking on a process and that the prospect of a return to war is receding all the time. But I don't think anyone is going to say, look, this is a done deal. Far from it. Our diplomatic correspondent, Paul Adams.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Staying in Israel, tensions are rising over one of the most sacred religious the Alaksa Mosque in Jerusalem. There are increasing concerns that the Muslim compound is coming under threat from Israeli religious nationalists who want to forcibly change the way it is governed. We are David's reports from Jerusalem. This is one of the most remarkable, most beautiful sites anywhere in the world, Jerusalem's dome of the rock.
Starting point is 00:08:53 It's from where Muslims say the Prophet Muhammad ascended to heaven on the back of his winged steed. This site is the most important in Judaism too. And below the dome and the Al-Axa mosque compound, Jews pray at the Western Wall, mourning the destruction of their temple here 2,000 years ago. Under the status quo agreement that governs the site, custody of the Axa mosque above is the responsibility of an Islamic body, the Waf. And prayer at Al-Axa is for Muslims only.
Starting point is 00:09:29 It's always said that any attempt to change the status quo, the governance of the holy sites, would lead to almost unprecedented tension between religions, even nations. Indeed, when the right-wing Israeli politician Ariel Sharon broke convention and came up here in the year 2000, it was the spark that led to the second Palestinian intifada or uprising. But such visits are now almost routine. Indeed, Sharon's successors, right-wing politicians like... Moshe Feiglin, unashamedly open about what they want to happen here on this spot. The whole land of Israel was promised to the children of God,
Starting point is 00:10:10 which mean the sons of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. What we call today the Jews, okay? And it belongs only to them. The Temple Institute here in Jerusalem, they've already started commissioning and building artifacts to place inside the temple. a huge golden menorah which they say will take pride of place in the new temple when it is built. For now, it occupies a plinth overlooking the Western Wall here in Jerusalem. The temple mount is ours, it's in our hands, chants Israel's far-right security minister Itimar Ben-Gavir.
Starting point is 00:10:57 He's a regular visitor to the mosque compound, singing songs and praying in complete contravention of the status quo, and says it's just the start of increasingly greater Jewish and Israeli control of the site. That's impossible, say it's Muslim custodians, including Dr. Mustafa Abu Sui, deputy head of the Islamic Waxh Council. We recognize the damage, we recognize basically the daily, they undermine the historic statistics at the same time. The idea of changing the Jordan, the Hashemites, as custodians of both the Muslim and Christian holy places,
Starting point is 00:11:33 it will not happen, inshally. It is jeopardizing the peace in the region. It is pitching everyone against everyone. Thousands of Muslim men, women and children come every day, especially on Fridays through the old city gates of Jerusalem up to the Al-Axa compound to prey, always watched over by well-armed Israeli police. And while talk of an American-Israeli initiative
Starting point is 00:11:59 to seize control from the waqf and tear up the status quo has brought international rejection. For many, the consequences of that would be unimaginable. Wehradavis reporting. Amazon is one of the most recognizable and valuable brands in the entire world. But now Jeff Bezos's business has been dethroned as the world's fifth most valuable company. Just days after its stock market debut, the value of SpaceX, which is owned by Elon Musk, has surged pushing its market capitalization to almost $3 trillion surpassing Amazon.
Starting point is 00:12:34 It's now only behind Microsoft, Google, Apple and Nvidia, which sits at the top of the list. More details from our business correspondent, Arjuna. We've seen in just the three trading sessions that it's been on the public markets. The stair prices are already up by 50%. And the valuation for SpaceX has zoomed to $2.8 trillion. And Amazon, which has been on the markets trading for over three decades, currently is worth around $2.6 trillion. So you can see the kind of enthusiasm.
Starting point is 00:13:04 people have for shares. And what's also interesting is only 4% of SpaceX shares are actually available to be trading freely in the public markets for general public to pick up. And that really shows the kind of enthusiasm and also somewhere the fear of missing out for the general public where they want to latch on to the shares that are available in the market and that's pushing the shares higher and higher. It was also driven by a news that SpaceX is going to buy another company cursor for $60 billion and that company uses AI to write codes, etc. And that would help the artificial intelligence arm of the business to take their plans forward. You know, right now is generally people being very excited about the future
Starting point is 00:13:50 prospects. They are literally buying into the dream that Elon Musk has for SpaceX, taking AI data centers to space or even help humans to colonize. But eventually it will be the fundamentals of the company that will have to do the work. If we compare it with Amazon, Amazon made profits of around $30 billion and sales of around $716 billion. And if you compare it with SpaceX, that lost about $4.3 billion last year and they had just a small $18 billion of revenues as compared to Amazon. So it's really the fundamentals of the company in terms of what they can offer to investors in the long term is what would drive for now. It's largely enthusiasm and buying into the dream.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Arjuna Shukla reporting. Now, when we cover coral reefs, it is usually to report yet more bleaching and devastation. But it's an analysis of decades of climate and ocean data suggests that many more of these hugely diverse ecosystems could survive in oceans warmed up by climate change than we originally thought. The study is currently under peer review. James Menendez spoke to its lead author, Kyle Zavada, from the Macquarie University in Sydney. What our study set out to do was to try and find reefs of hope and find potential pockets of resilience for coral reefs where we could then rally around and actually try and find those reefs that have the best chance of surviving climate change. And how were they identified and what was the role of AI in that?
Starting point is 00:15:16 People have been measuring coral reef health for decades all the way back to the 1960s and earlier. And so what we do is we take these sort of historical and current day observations of the health of the reef. and then we combine them with a range of different global data sets, for example, like sea surface temperature, cyclones, human impact. So essentially, if you know the health of a patch of reef at like a certain time and place, and then you can say, okay, well, what was the thermal history leading up to this observation? You know, was there a marine heat wave? Was there a big cyclone leading up to that point? There's a very complex and very dynamic set of systems and it changes depending on where you are on the planet as well.
Starting point is 00:15:53 And so we trained 100 AI models, which basically really learned. the intricacies of the relationship between these environmental variables and coral reef health. And then, of course, once you've trained those models and you're sort of confident that they're making predictions and that they're going to be useful, you can kind of unleash them on the planet. That's where you sort of put all of your predictors in and sort of allow it to predict across the entire globe. And just to say that, you know, we end up mapping the health of coral reefs across a half a million square kilometers of coral reef. And that's roughly about 70 million football pitches, if you're going to imagine that. Yeah. And also the point is that
Starting point is 00:16:27 even though you've identified this large area of coral reef that may be able to resist climate shocks, those reefs themselves need protecting, don't they? And they need ongoing conservation. Absolutely. And there's the Arroceans Conference, which is currently going on in Kenya, and working with WCS, WWF and Bloomboat Philanthropies. They're sort of using the maps that we've produced and using these climate resilient coral reefs, to use that as a kind of a rallying call. You know, every country now can go and have a look at, okay, well, with the reefs that we have within our economic zones, which ones are potentially climate resilient, which ones are already being protected, which ones are maybe outside of that. And it does form this blueprint to
Starting point is 00:17:06 sort of help guide that conservation action investment. Karzada from the Macquarie University in Sydney. Still to come in this podcast, as Stephen Spielberg's latest blockbuster disclosure day sets new box office records, we celebrate the key to his success, his collaboration with the composer John Williams. suggest enormous depths of strangeness and the supernatural behind ordinary natural things. And that works for ET. It works for close-in-camps. It particularly works in Raiders in the Lost Ark. The biggest men's football world cup in history is here. Forty-eight teams and a record
Starting point is 00:17:54 104 games being played across the United States, Canada and Mexico. And the more than the score podcast is bringing you more than just the latest results, stats and fixtures. We're taking a closer look at the new teams competing, the Cups standout stars and the fans who are shaping the tournament. More than the score from the BBC World Service. Listen now, wherever you get your BBC podcasts. He's widely recognised as one of the greatest footballers in history. He's won the prestigious Ballandour Award five times.
Starting point is 00:18:31 He's the all-time leading goal scorer in professional football. And according to the Bloomberg billionaires in history, He's the first active footballer in history to achieve billionaire status. Guess who we're talking about yet? That's right. Good Bad Billionaire is exploring the life and fortune of football icon Cristiano Ronaldo. That's Good Bad Billionaire from the BBC World Service. Listen now, wherever you get your BBC podcasts. This is the Global News Podcast.
Starting point is 00:19:04 To Brazil, where former president Jaira Bolsonaro is currently serving a 27-year prison sentence for plotting a coup after losing the 2022 election. And now his third son, Eduardo, has been convicted too of trying to interfere in his father's trial. Eduardo, who's based in the US, was accused of lobbying the American government to impose sanctions on the court's justices and tariffs on Brazilian goods.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Will Chalk asked our Latin America expert, Luis Fajardo, from BBC monitoring, whether given Eduardo is close to the Trump administration, is it likely he'll be. be extradited to serve the sentence? Eduardo Bolsonaro has been living in Texas since 2025. He clearly has connections with conservative politicians in the U.S., with the U.S. government, and some people expect him to try to use these connections to try to stay in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:20:01 to prevent being sent to Brazil. Also, his conviction does not immediately establish prison time. It was with conditions. He would be, in theory, able to partially be on parole. So it is not clear what his new strategy would be in this situation. He is still a fairly high-profile politician in Brazil as part of this family clan, the Bolsonaroos, will remain extremely important in Brazilian politics. So what is this doing then, if anything, to affect the reputation of the Bolsonaro clan?
Starting point is 00:20:35 Well, the Bolsonaro's have had, of course, many issues with the law. The patriarch, of course, was convicted over his role in this coup and he's serving a prison time, which also prevents him from running in the presidential election, which is happening later this year. However, yet another member of the Bolsonaro clan, the other son of Jail-Bolsonaro, Flavio Bolsonaro, is running in the election. He is expected to face President Lula in an attempt to reestablish the far-right dominance of Brazilian politics. Even though the Bolsonaro's have had all these scandals, they retain a substantial political following in Brazil with many right-wing voters there like elsewhere in Latin America who believe that the left has been a negative influence on their country.
Starting point is 00:21:28 And they are willing to look past a lot of issues, a lot of scandals, a lot of, problems with the law, with the final objective of trying to get the right back in power in Brazil. Of course, we'll be seeing what happens in the elections in Brazil later this year. With all these scandals, I mean, is there no one else on the right waiting in the wings who voters could turn to, who isn't mired in so many scandals? The lessons of Brazilian politics in the last few years seem to show that the Bolsonaro's have a very, very strong domination of a Brazilian, right-wing politics. Many people see Jaiy Bolsonaro, the convicted former president, more as a martyr of what they see as efforts by the left to prevent the right from returning to power. So it seems
Starting point is 00:22:17 that the Bolsonaro's remain very powerful and Flavio Bolsonaro remains a serious contender to the presidency, even though all these scandals have been affecting his family and his political class. The BBC monitoring's Luis Foujardo. says five men have been arrested in connection with an alleged attempted drone attack plot targeting Sunday's mixed martial arts event at the White House. Part of the plan allegedly involved striking nearby buildings with explosive laden drones and firing on high-value targets with sniper rifles. Former US Secret Service agent Barry Donadio told the BBC
Starting point is 00:22:54 that the authorities only found out about the plots when a mother in Ohio called the police because she was concerned about her son. buying weapons. It's our understanding that he has spent thousands of dollars of his graduation money from high school to purchase ammunition weapons and other equipment in preparation for this attack, which is a very, very serious attack, which, according to the court document, was supposed to trigger and jumpstart a revolution here in the United States, not only to shoot innocent people, senators, other politicians, even potentially the president of United States. So nobody here is taking this lightly. It is a very, very serious matter. I suspect this is a group of
Starting point is 00:23:39 young men manipulated by whether it's media or the internet. And we know that the younger generation today are manipulated very easily by what they see on social media or the internet. So I think they are victimized by this as well. And now they threw their lives away for what appears to be an opportunity to feel special or feel part of a group that was going to literally, try to overthrow the government, you're never going to be a hero by taking a gun and killing innocent people to change a political ideology. The White House is a fortress and Washington, D.C. is a fortress in itself. So I don't see how the plan would have succeeded in any grand way that it would have been successful. But we shouldn't have had to get to this point. Thank God that the U.S. Secret Service
Starting point is 00:24:26 and the FBI also are involved in a matter and put it to an end. Barry Donadio. Is the key to Stephen Spielberg's success not so much the pictures, the action, but the music that his film uses? Stephen Spielberg's latest release Disclosure Day marks the 30th time the director has collaborated with the composer John Williams, now age 94. Would we really have what are widely considered some of the greatest films of all time, like Jaws, Star Wars, Jurassic Park, and countless others without that dynamic pairing? We asked Neil Brand, film composer, historian and critic, to describe the secret formula to some of the pair's most famous moments. These are probably the most well-known notes of John Williams' film music.
Starting point is 00:25:13 And when he first played this theme to Spielberg on the piano, which he does every time with his themes for Spielberg's films, he said, there it is. And Spielberg said, what? He said, that's your theme. You know the shark's there, and you know it's a predator. It's brilliant and spoiled down to absolutely nothing. Williamson had a very successful career as a young man
Starting point is 00:25:38 working in television, things like Lost in Space and the Land of the Giants and stuff like that. So he'd learnt very early on to write economic music. With a film like Spielberg's Close Encounters of the Third Kind, the first job he did, I think, was to find the awe that was necessary for us to understand the effect of aliens being discovered for the first time. William saturday's piano
Starting point is 00:26:06 and played combination after combination after combination of those five notes. And it's the one part of the film that everybody can hum. So Williams' approach to space, I think, is fascinating. The way that he handles the huge amounts of the sort of darkness and the unknown of deep space
Starting point is 00:26:29 in something like Star Wars, where after we've had that enormous opening title with the roller for Star Wars, we go into space with this kind of strange, tinkly world, which is very much 19th century, it's almost like ballet music,
Starting point is 00:26:43 and it takes us out into space but finds space fascinating and awe-inspiring and extraordinary. With E.T., he takes a single idea of one alien who is stranded, who has to be helped, and he turns that sense of distance, the famous line, of course, E.T. phone home.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Williams's music, He links us and E.T. as an outsider, as someone who needs help, with this idea of a vast unknown expanse. The imaginary unknown. He can suggest enormous depths of strangeness and the supernatural behind ordinary natural things. And that works for E.T. It works for close encounters. It particularly works when Indy is deep in the tomb in Raiders in the Lost Dark. he is beginning to step into a world which is tied in with magic and with strange ancient powers
Starting point is 00:27:50 he and Spielberg have been bosom buddies for all of that time they've been together they've made 30 films together they have offices pretty much adjoining on the studio lot and Spielberg utterly relies on him Jaws the shark didn't work in Jaws but Williams' music absolutely made us believe it did
Starting point is 00:28:14 and ever since then I think that's what Spielberg has been going to Williams 4. That was Neil Brand, film composer, historian and movie critic. Finally, there are simply few superlatives left when describing Lionel Messi. At the age of 38, playing in his 200th game for his country
Starting point is 00:28:35 and in his sixth World Cup, he stole the show yet again by scoring a hat trick in Argentina's opening World Cup game against Algeria. It means he's tied with Germany's Miroslav closer as the highest scorer in World Cup history on 16. Argentine football fan Annabel was watching.
Starting point is 00:28:53 I just watched this guy kill it, shutting everybody down. Just being touched messy is nothing but they got today. A hat trick. Who would have thought? I wasn't expecting him to play. And he delivered a hat trick with a very precision. Lopsin. He ran.
Starting point is 00:29:09 I saw him playing defense like the way he used to do. And when I saw that, I said, okay, well, D, we got vintage messy today. And we did. So with that in mind, man, What a start. Well, as well as the might of Messi, there's been a lot of chatter amongst football fans about the kits worn by the 48 competing countries. Some teams have the perfect fit, while others look more like fashion victims.
Starting point is 00:29:32 I spoke to our reporter Helena Burke about some of the highlights and low lights of style out on the pitch. Of course, fashion's not objective, it's subjective. So everyone's not going to agree on the best kits and the worst kits. One person might think is incredibly stylish, another might think is a fashion disaster. But there is some consensus among football fans and fashion analysts about what are kind of some of the really standout ones. One that's been identified by a lot of people is the Curisau Away Kit. Including me. Yes, including Anka.
Starting point is 00:30:01 And I think it's because it's something a little bit different. It's a soft yellow colour that you don't often see on football kits, and it's got a really tasteful, multicoloured stripe down the shoulder. Another one that people seem to really like is the Japan Away kit. It's white. And then it's got really thin rainbow stripes down the front of it. There's 12 of those. The designer Adidas says that represents the 11 players plus the 12th strike for the fans.
Starting point is 00:30:25 But what are some of your favourite, Anka? So definitely those two. I think in the office we were talking about this, and I was very passionate about this subject. So the Curacao I'd be trying to get a hold of. Japan has a soft place in my heart just because I used to live there. And the blue kit, their home kit, is really nice. The other ones always to look out for are the French and the Brazil ones,
Starting point is 00:30:42 because they always love to put out something which most football fans will love. But not everyone loves all of them. No, yes. Tell us about the ones which have maybe ranked low, even including one from your home country. Yeah, so we'll get to that in a moment. It pains me to say that as an Aussie. But the Switzerland-way one has been pretty widely poohed by fans.
Starting point is 00:31:01 It kind of just looks like a white jersey that someone scribbled a bright green highlight. They need to go for more effort. You need to go to big effort when it's the World Cup. Yep. And it's kind of unclear how a bright green highlighter color relates to Switzerland as a country. And yes, as an Aussie, I hate to say,
Starting point is 00:31:16 the Australia Way kit is not great. It's kind of this gradient green, turquoise colour with salmon up top. The designer has said it's inspired by sunsets in the Australian outback, but the colours are really artificial, so I'm kind of not seeing that connection there. Australia's not the only country, though, to use its natural world as inspiration for its kit. So the Democratic Republic of Congo has zebra stripes on their home kit. And when the team arrived in the US the other day and they walked off the plane, they were all wearing matching black suits with these really striking leopard sashes across their body. The designer Alvin Jr. Mack has explained why he picked those leopard spots. In our country, the little parr is a symbol of hardness, it's a symbol of
Starting point is 00:32:00 power, brave. And I want to share with people this mindset. When we speak about Congo, we speak about like Ebola, we speak about war, and I want to bring just something with good energy. I want to bring some different vision of Congo. A lot of people won't care about what players are wearing, but fashion has become huge in sports. The actual jerseys themselves, the replicas, the vintage kits, that's become massive parts of popular culture. That's right. So while the tournament is, of course, primarily about football, it's also a massive cultural event.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Billions of people are going to watch across the world. And that gives fashion brands a really big platform. to basically show off their designing prowess and get some semi-free advertising. So manufacturing a stylish kit is really important to them. It's also, as you mentioned, really important to a lot of fans. There's a huge online community of people who collect a lot of vintage kits from World Cups gone by. People will pay thousands and thousands of dollars for some of them. Of course, it's not just the fans, it's the countries themselves as well.
Starting point is 00:32:59 As we've discussed already with the DRC, it's an opportunity for countries to show off their national identity, any kind of natural elements they have like Australia. It's that personality and yeah, like you say, part of their culture and history, yeah. Exactly. And for example, the Mexico kit has the Aztec pattern shaded in a darker green all over it. So stuff like that really cuts through for people. Helena Burke reporting. And that's all from us for now. If you want to get in touch, you can email us at global podcast at BBC.com.com.
Starting point is 00:33:28 And don't forget our sister podcast, the global story, which goes in depth and beyond the headlines on one big story. This edition of the Global News podcast was mixed by Holly Smith and the producer was Judy Frankel. The editor is Karen Martin and I'm Uncriticide. Until next time, goodbye. The biggest men's football world cup in history is here. 48 teams and a record 104 games being played across the United States, Canada and Mexico. And the more than the score podcast is bringing you more than just the latest results, stats and fixtures. We're taking a closer look at the new teams competing,
Starting point is 00:34:16 the Cups standout stars and the fans who are shaping the tournament, more than the score from the BBC World Service. Listen now, wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

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