God Awful Movies - 165: GAM165 Loose Change

Episode Date: October 16, 2018

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One of the irons has described the plane as saying it didn't look like it belonged in the area. Well it's about to crash into the twin towers. Yeah, of course it didn't fucking belong there. It's not your fucking Sesame Street, is it? Yeah I did think like, oh it's one of those planes that doesn't look like it belongs on the 99th floor of the office floor. Right?

It's one of those rare planes, yeah. Yeah. It's not of those rare plans, yeah. It's not a reasonable place to park. There's no monkey climbing up that thing or anything. It's out of the elevator on the 99th floor. Seize the plane next to him. That's weird. Not awful.

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Hi everyone, thank you. Hello. All right, and hopefully wearing clothes and joining us last, because I only get to have normal blood pressure when he's not on stage yet. Is my bad friend, please welcome Eli Bosnick. Oh! Oh!

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Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Okay, so what do you got going there for the listeners at home Elias come out covered entirely in tin foil are you trying to block messages I'm building seven oh geez because I fall down for no reason are there clothes under that tin foil? Yes. Could you lose the tin foil? I feel like you're going to be a little rattly on the... Oh, Jesus. Just not alive, show till you see Eli's ass, is it? God, where's my nano-thermite when I need it? All right, so while he is deting-foiling with a live microphone in his hand, tell us, he, what will we be breaking down to that?

All right, we watched loose change. Yeah, yeah, not a big battle loose change, nobody. All right. Well, it's the story of what really happened on 9-11. There he is. And spoiler, much like that whole crucifixion thing, the Jews did it. So we'll get there.

And apparently they were helped out by Wily Coyote, according to the theories that will be presented in this movie. All right, in Eli, how bad was this movie? Well, if you know the model number of the XJ47 responder in an airplane's black box, but not which direction gravity goes. Yes. You will love this movie. This is the movie version of knowing

an advanced chess opening when you're playing Connect 4. Yes. I don't care where you put the nightmare, and you're not playing Connect 4. Yes. Russian? You said it's Russian? No.

All right, and so, Mars, Andy, I can't believe you guys are still friends with us. And I have to know, did you, did either you watch this movie before or like as part of your skeptical stuff or did we pop your cherries? Well, if you mean by popping cherries, the cherry is my happiness, software, fair, faith in documentary making, ability to function as a human being, ability to suspend reality and willingness to participate in future episodes of God-All for Movies. Yeah, my cherry is popped. Also, for the record, 8,11,9, when we have...

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 1819 when when we have yeah At least when we have a major terrorist incident in London we have the good grace to make it universal by having it on 777 oh god It's easy then as you make it great again. Oh I think this the first time I've ever that actually watched loose all the way through, but I'm pretty sure I've had every single point in loose change said to me during an interview on B reasonable at one point or another. So I feel like I've had it kind of indirectly. I actually tried to interview Don Ivory, the guy who made loose change in

2010, but unfortunately he apparently wasn't in the right mindset to talk about it anymore. Because he was concentrating on his feature film career. So we only held out when. Yeah, Dylan Ivory, who had the sense to eventually renounce this movie, but still sells it for three and a half bucks on YouTube. Now we should be clear, because I know a lot of people like to watch the movies along with us. There are about 80 versions of this movie, okay?

Because apparently there was a level of wrong that they weren't willing to be that was beyond just wrong, right? So occasionally they'd find things that were just, I guess, too wrong for them and they'd remake the documentary, but don't worry, they'd put new wrong shit in. So we actually watched the first edition of this. If you already watched the movie, unless you watched it with us at Platinum Night, because you guys are fucking awesome,

then you may have watched the wrong version. You really have no one to blame but yourself. You should really watch all the versions to get all the stories. There's a lot of true stories. Do the homework. Do the homework. Get out of your echo chambers.

I just love that when they found out shit was wrong, they didn't think, man, I should change my conclusion. That's the equation that gets me there. Just the music. All movies go through recuts. It's fine. Yeah. All right.

So is there anything you guys want to nominate this for being the best at being the worst at? Yeah. I'm going to go with best worst anti-Semitism. Okay. Start to talk about a little bit. So normally a movie like this, it'd be talking about like, hey, we checked in with legendary English footballer David Ike. Turns out Jews are lizard aliens that rule the world. But this

movie, they're just vaguely hinting at Israel being part of an inside job. But then suggesting the dumbest plan ever. Like I'd be offended as a massage agent who did 9-11. Like why was an Israeli spy who did 9-11? I'd be like, well, we're not fucking stupid like that. We did it better than that. All right, see, I was gonna go with, and someone at Platinum Night actually stole my line on this one, I swear I had it written

in the notes before you said it. But I was gonna go with best worst use of the word clearly. As in, as you can clearly see, well, we'll come back to that one. So I had a best-worst kind of interpretation or extrapolation from a single pixel. Oh, yeah. We'll come to it, but the number of times are like, do you see this single pixel here? It means all of these things. Yes.

It's the equivalent of showing you like a single frame of the game, Pong, and then asking you to imagine all of the Wimbledon final from it. I'm including my fucking poor boys, you know. For me, it was fashion. Okay. Yeah, I went with the best worst leather jacket scarf. That guy is the best. That guy.

He was my favorite. And this, by the way, is coming from a guy who came to do a 9-11 show wearing a New York City T-shirt. This is the guy. Yeah. Yeah. That's criticizing fashion here. It's fun halfway through the show.

I'm going to crash paper planes into the room. I don't want to spoil it, but you're going to like it. I went with best worst. Now you're probably asking yourself. Because no matter what this guy suggests, it is not what you were asking yourself. He's like, it was a government cargo plane that hit the buildings. Now you're probably asking yourself, what color is the sun when the Jews look at it? No, Dylan. You're asking yourself. When he first said that, he's like, you know, now the question you're probably

asking yourself is like, oh my God, they're going to address what the fuck? Really? Amazing. All right, well, we've got a lot of aggressive signs to do, so we're going to take a quick break to oxygenate and when we come back we'll carine headlong into all the inaccuracies that are loose change drinks and snacks drinks and snacks excuse me sir you can't lay a mattress in the middle of the airplane oh sorry, sorry, sorry. My friend, he has trouble sleeping on planes, but that's a Casper mattress. What's a Casper mattress?

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No, I want five. Hi, I'm Tony D. The little questions of world events bother you, but not the giant questions that follow from those little ones. They come on down the Tony D's House of Conspiracy theories. We got jet engine minutia, blurry pixels and even more blurry pixels. So we can turn this. I don't know the thing with the plane and Pennsylvania seems kind of weird into this. Look at the shadow on this photo. It's clearly of a 456 roadhater cuff, which didn't appear on the SEST9 until 2013. Tony, these house of conspiracy theories, because you're not okay with the truth. And we're back for the breakdown.

All right, so we're going to start this movie off with a dedication to the lives lost on September 11th of 2000, whether the airplane related ones, not the heart attacks and traffic accidents. Because this movie is solemn, y'all. I believe this is the first time that like the family members of the people that it was dedicated to formally like renounced the dedication. No, no, you didn't. No, weirdly, I think Al Qaeda's video for 9-11 also starts off dedicated to the lives

they lost in the last season. Let's be real, it takes solid brass balls to begin a documentary where you're going to accuse the people who died in 9-11 of faking their own death for neighbor existing to the people of 9-11, right? That's good. That's like if we dedicated this episode of the podcast to Dylan Avery, right? This one's for Dylan, is he dead? The thing is, I felt more secure than you guys, because I saw this in a thought, oh, they actually believed some people did die in 9-11. This doesn't put them in the top 10 weird people I've talked to about that life.

And that case. That's it, man, you've got a hell of a list. Okay. So we're going to start off with a shot of the Statue of Liberty. But they're going to try to make it scary with music. Like Lady Liberty is going to leap out at you or something. Yeah, it's like bad guy music from a horror movie and the Statue of Liberty. Like, it was written to the music people in the script, like, the Statue of Liberty's calling from inside the house. That's the music we want for this. I thought it was like spooky music like John Carpeter, like this was John Carpet as assault on September 11th. Subtile big trouble in Lohmann Hatton.

All right, and then we start getting, this entire movie is going to be built on this crazy notion that maybe at some point eyewitnesses would recall things differently. Right, so we start off with a bunch of quotes from people saying, I don't know if that looked like an arrow plane to me. I had a blue logo on the front. Didn't look like a normal airplane that belonged there. Like you're about to do 9-11. It's an inside job and some guy's like, hey, I made this cool logo for the conspiracy

and Photoshop. I want to put it on the front of the airplane and they got caught. That's how they got quiet. Yeah, exactly. By every. They described the plane. One of the ironesses described the plane as saying it didn't look like it belonged in the area. Well, it's about to crush into the twin towers.

Yeah, yeah. The ones it didn't fucking belong there. It's not Sesame Street. Here we have two iconic towers, testament to the ambition and power of America, and a plane about to play into them. Two of these things are kind of the same, and one of these things just doesn't belong. It's not fucking Sesame Street, is it? Yeah, I did think like, oh, it's one of those planes that doesn't look like it belongs on the 99th floor of the office. So one of those rare planes, yeah.

So not a reasonable place to park. There's no monkey climbing up that thing or anything. It's out of the elevator on the 99th floor. Seize the, seize the plane next to him. That's weird. That plane shouldn't have a blue logo on it. Let me see your passport. I dropped it.

I dropped it. All right. So, and now he starts off, well, I thought he was gonna start off laying out the official story, but he's gonna start off with a series of videos that he's gonna zoom in on as Mars was saying to the one pixel level and say, you see that flash before the plane hits? I'm like, do you mean do I see a white pixel

amidst the black ones? Yeah, yeah. He starts this by saying like, so the planest the black ones? Yeah, yeah. He starts his by saying, like, so the plane hits the tower and he says, on face value, this may not look like much. And I thought, this guy doesn't really know what a big deal is. Because that seems like a lot to me.

Who doesn't have the twin towers being hit by the plane in the back of every home video? At the same time. You cut it out. And by the way, the back of every home video. At the start of the week, you cut it out. And by the way, the solemn way he introduces his voice is with DJ remix music of the plane entering and exiting the 10 towers. Yes. But we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, I'm like, yeah, man, you just insulted 3,000 plus dead people. And he's like, no, no, no, the white cloud. Then you're right. Yeah.

Yeah. He says, if you look at these nine pixels here, you can clearly see that the, the plane explodes too early. And also if you kind of squint, it looks like a crocodile riding on a kitty cat. It's pretty, how are we looking at? And then he's like, yeah, so we asked a Boeing spokesman about this. Hey, what's this blurry area under your plane? And they were like, it's Japanese penis stop being weird. Please leave my house. You need to leave my house right now. There was so much like nobody would explain to me how one would go about hijacking

a plane and crashing it into a building? Therefore, it's a conspiracy. I told them I was making a movie for YouTube. Yeah, yeah. This is what the underneath of a Boeing 647 should look like. Yeah. And this is what the one at 9.11 look like. And if you look carefully, you'll see the one at 9.11 had like the reflections of a city beneath it. That's not meant to be that.

It must have been fake. This one's in black and white. It's meant to be that. It must have been fake. This one's in black and white. It's meant to be in color. Come on. But now, and it took me a long time to figure out where he was going with this. But apparently the flash that you see before the plane hits is a missile being fired

from the plane. It's about to crash into the goddamn building. Yeah. That plane is already made of missile. That's your already doing that. Okay, but still, I want to be there for that meeting. Dilly, dilly, dilly, dilly, dilly, dilly, dilly, dilly. Gentlemen, thank you for coming.

As you know, we plan to stage the most elaborate false flag ever, and it all begins with this, a jet fighter, sir. That's right. We'll fly them directly at the Twin Towers, but then just before impact, we'll shoot the building with a missile. Right. And then we fly away, yeah? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

We'll fly the plane right into the building. yeah? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, So I don't have to edit an episode of Incredulous I'm fucking believe you made me do You was probably just gonna do this the whole time You do for minimum wage these days Making jokes about 3000 people dying you totally comes with doing this with your finger They do far make too far too, too far. Beyond the pale. Beyond the pale. I feel like that's racist. I feel like that pilot can be like, wait, hold on, I get missiles.

You're given new plan, hear me out. And I just shoot them and then I fly away like right before. Is that, no, every fucking time with these pilots, you go in there, you shoot the missile, we have a whole thing planned out. The missiles are just there to detonate the pre rig to close it. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Why don't you die to my, why don't you mention these plans? Okay, now I look stupid. You already look stupid.

All right, so yeah, and this is the guy that came out covered in tin foil with his ass hanging out. All right. And so then after he lays out the missile theory, he comes up and he says, for your consideration, as though this is Oscar worthy. And then they start talking about how jingoistic the American media got in the wake of 9-11. They actually use the term, I believe they dub it a patriotic orgy. That sounds like fun. Yeah, they said people would be intimidated by the patriotic orgy. And I've got to say I would be intimidated by the patriotic orgy.

My flag would be half-mast at best. That's a big moment, half-mast. You guys ever played devil's triangle? Yes. Patriotic ortee right there. Am I being detained? You are being detained. I detained you. I have the idea that a patriotic orgy everybody would be saluting. So they've only got one hand left. That's really inefficient, right?

Well, it's really inefficient. Well, no, it's different because in America, you bring condoms in England, you pull out. It's a totally different kind of energy. So, okay. So then we get a bunch of people who's, another bunch of these other eyewitnesses that apparently somehow remember it wrong.

So we get a whole bunch of quotes from people going, I don't know, I thought it sounded like a missile instead of an airplane. There's one of the witnesses is there like, I'm here, there is a literal building falling on me. So I am probably your best source. Brack your information. Everything's getting closer, write that down.

Yeah. Do you know who's gonna know most about this, the person at floor level. They are going to have the best view of this entire. That's exciting. All right, and then we get our title, Loose Change. And then we actually show videos of the tower coming down because there is no tasteful in this film, which is immediately followed by a bunch of controlled demolitions. As you have to say, hey man, look at these, these look awful lot like buildings falling down.

But the thing is the control demolitions happen in time to the music that really makes it out. So it looked like a really shit 90s, like ill-fought out commercial video for a demolition specialist. Look at these buildings we can bring down guys. Oh, God. Well, that's thing, uncontrolled demolitions, the music is off first of all. Oh, right.

They don't live on all these things. And they fall off a lot. Yeah, they fall off. If you don't control it. The only question that I had about this montage is what does Dylan think buildings falling down right actually looks like like the world trade towers are like you got ice there man. Be careful I'm a building. So much of this movie is built on the idea that it would normally just fall like a tree

I like the homalone bad guys where it's like whoop. Yeah From the building Oh, and this is also where we get the credits which are I believe three names not counting the music Oh, but the music is so good. We have DJ schooling Nick the one DJ no is so good. We have DJ schooling, Nick Vawon DJ. No, no, no, no, Nick the wonder. Oh, the one dot. That's right. Spelled one DA. Yeah. Smoke. Wow, big smoke fun in the audience. Wow, ladies and gentlemen, we have so many audience.

I was unexpected. Guys, just constantly googling himself. It took an eight hour plane ride to be here. I really thought people would join in when I started clapping. And of course, the final musical contributor to the movie, Sway. Yep. We they brought out the big guns there.

And then he asks, and I guess I'm not supposed to have the answer that I have for this, because he asks, now who, the narrator comes in, he's like, now who had the motive, the equipment, and the opportunity to do this? And I'm like, you don't want me to say I'll kind of, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the,

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saying a missile hit the building. He's obviously referring to the airplane. Like how hard is it to make Donald Rumsfeld sound scary? But no, they have to misinterpret him. Well, I'm seeing like Donald Rumsfeld, obviously he's bush administration and watching this I thought, God, it may be nostalgic for the time

that people thought governments could do stuff here. Cause we've got Trump in America and Brexit here and say, oh, you guys don't know what you're doing. You can't accomplish anything. If Trump tried to do a false flag, he would just run at the new World Trade Center with a sledgehammer. He'd be like, you don't see me.

I pooped. And then three seconds later, they'd be like, I tried to knock down that tower. Oops, shouldn't have said that. Yeah. Well, again, because Dylan's theory is that Donald Rumsfeld was giving an interview in Parade magazine and was just like, so then we fired a missile. Steve, how do we knock down the twin towers?

It's just Parade, I don't worry about. All right, so now it's time to talk about how hard it what must have been for an unexperienced pilot to crash an airplane into the Pentagon. How would you even know which building it was? And this is where we meet your best worst. We meet the guy with the scarf here. I feel as though crashing into exactly the right place to place the missile is excellent fly now.

So, you know, just throw it off by that. Well, the thing is, they point out that this guy was amazing because he did a 330 degree turn at 500 miles an hour. And that sounds amazing unless you take into account the fact it might have taken him ages because like he had a time on that. Like the earth does a 360 degree turn is 67,000 miles an hour. It just takes really long to do that. Eli can reverse park. If you give him long enough, he'll manage it. He has 10 so while theoretically also I feel like you make a 30 degree turn the other way. Yeah. Why is he going 500 miles an hour? He makes a 3 30. Hold on, I

got to scratch my ass. Where are you on September 10th in Afghanistan? They needed your forethought. You were the guy missing from that right. Okay, really quick. Just we shoot the missile. You go 30 away. Clean and clear. This is me doing 9-11 just. I found out you reverse part. I'll get it. Do you want me to do it? Can we just switch it? No, let's do it. Let's do it. You don't have to see. There's other planes behind you that trying to get past.

Come on, just hit the time. I was just like's other planes behind you. They're trying to get past. Come on, just hit the tiles, push it on my plate first. Come on, this train's trying to get past. One second. The audience at home loves the visual humor, you know. We flew to London. What's your excuse? Yeah, there you go.

But the argument we're making here basically is that this pilot couldn't have possibly hit the Pentagon because he's brown and stupid. Yeah. And to back that up, they go and they find this guy who worked at a pilot school where this guy once rented a plane and talked to him for about eight minutes. Yeah, this is the guy in the leather jacket. Yes, Garth. We'll, you know, you've domestically calling Biggles for now.

He actually said, one of the bombers is called Hanjo, and he said that Hanjo was average or below average as a pilot. Well, which is it? I feel like that's an important distinct. First of all, because Biggles was meant to be working out if Hanjo was competent to fly. So that's the first reason. But he also, he ought to really know whether he's average or below average. And because the film is trying to make me believe there's no way hand jaw could have been the pilot. So the difference between average and roughly the same as most every other person. Suddenly becomes important, doesn't it? Yeah, yeah. I can't believe you got that much out of an all I could think of was, oh my God, he's literally wearing that leather jacket and that scarf the whole fucking time, isn't he?

Oh, well, he's the thing though,, because you totally missed the fact that his office was filled with the most 90s technology I've ever seen. He had like a facs machine, he had a massive CRT monitor, he had a whole box filled with floppy discs. This is 2005, you didn't need floppy discs. And there was no way he was taking off that leather jacket and scarves. No, they definitely made a big deal. They're like, you're a fucking grown up.

We're indoors. We're inside of a building. Can you take a, just take it, come on. Seriously. I'm gonna kill Snoopy. If anything, I think he went out and bought that leather jacket when he knew he was gonna be on film. He's like, look, I look like a pilot.

Right. He's sort of pilot outfit for this. I like the idea that after he dressed up, he looked in the mirror for a long time to make sure it was exactly right. All right. So now we dig into the logistics of the Pentagon strike, which starts with them showing the radar and it's like, you know, if he was such a below average pilot, how did he show up on the same radar that the above average pilots are on? Hold on a second. They say he thought they thought it was a military plane. They they knew it was American Airlines flight 77. Yeah. Yeah. Did they think it's on the screen you're showing me movie like I can see it. They think American Airlines had a fucking Air Force, they're a military wing.

Is a 330 degree turn of military thing? Maybe it's who they asked. Maybe they asked like the intern and they're like, oh, that's probably like military or something. No one showed me this graph before, no one showed me this screen before. I don't know what I'm looking at. We're making 30 degrees this whole time. It's just doing three 30s.

It's advanced. One of the military would turn that way. Yeah. But then he starts asking, I shit you not, why there aren't skid marks in front of the Pentagon? Yeah, literally. Yeah. The plane didn't take a big enough divot.

Mm. That was an argument. Like, and then he shows us. He's like, here's, here's, is what it looks like when a plane takes a divot from the lawn of the Pentagon. Yeah. How would you show us that? How would you show us that? With a drawing, he drew in crayon. He's like, look, this is what it would look like. And then he shows us the Pentagon.

I mean, let's be fair to him. He does for to shop at Leiter to say what would this look like? It would look like that. Well, like, he says as it later to see what would this look like. He would look like this. Well, like, he says as well, like, there's no way that this plane hit the pentagon because the lawn is completely undamaged and to prove that he shows you a picture of very clearly a damaged lawn. It's like, what's all that black and charred grass all about? Oh, that was already there. That's how they like it.

They insist that they're gone because I'm burning the grass just in case. Rosefeld's got some weird ideas about a duck horse. They said there was no traces of the wings outside the building. And said in fact, there's no traces of the aircraft at all. And then literally three seconds later, he says, the only pieces of debris on the front lawn were light enough to be carried by hand. Well, is there debris? Is there no debris?

What's going on here? Yeah, agree with yourself at the very least. But this is the argument we've all heard there's so many damn times that if Bugs Bunny ran through that wall, why isn't there a Bugs Bunny shaped hole in that wall? Right. They're saying, well, there should be wing marks

and jet marks. It's not like this thing was made out of nine feet of limestone. Wait, what? I gotta edit my movie, y'all. But even the picture he shows all the Pentagon, like, oh, there's only this one small hole in the middle. And you look at it and go, like, what's all this stuff to the sign that's done me from like wings or something like that. Yeah. Well, that was that that was already there. They did that. They were burning the lawn there. You guys are wondering about light poles, though, probably, right? Yes.

You guys are all, I can see you all asking, well, what about the fucking light poles? They address it. Don't worry. Yeah. Yeah. He says at one point, he says, these poles don't look like they were hit by an airplane. They look like they just popped out of the ground. What's the distinction there? Yeah. My favorite thing about the light poles is they can't have been destroyed or caused by a plane crashing at the Pentagon because these light poles are landing like towards and they're in a certain direction and the shape isn't quite right. And that's like the idea that they've gone right, we've got this great amazing conspiracy

plan and we've got everything covered. Have you got the fire? Yes. Have you knocked over some poles? Yes, have you got a big hole in the wall? Yes. Have you knocked over some poles? Yes. Have you got a big hole in the wall? Yes. I think we're all ready to fool them.

But they haven't figured out that you've got to leave a plane behind as well. No one said plane. Fuck. We've done the poles. I spent all my time in the pool. And we faced them the wrong way. I was just wondering if you'd be able to leave it up. Yeah.

Okay. Hold on. Hey, just going to make a call. I'm going to fix this. Someone makes us say, it's me. We just did 9-11. You know, stupid. Yeah. Obviously we did 9-11, you know, stupid, obviously. We did 9-11 together.

You remember it's Heath, we did 9-11 together. I do. Yeah, okay, so it's me, Heath. Anyway, we forgot to do the phone on the phone too much. Okay, fun. We need to hurry through this. We forgot to knock down light poles outside the Pentagon. What? Yeah. So what I need you to do is send somebody down there to just like tear

a few out. I mean, Dave, I'm sorry to make you get up again because you just did the lunch run, but apparently he, he was it? Yeah, he introduced himself like six times. I forgot to pop out the light poles. Yeah, thanks, buddy. What angle did you tell him to do, Matt? What? Dude, oh my God. What angle did you tell him? Who is this? It's great when we have a scripted bit and you improvise your way through.

That's all that's fun. All right, so then he says, I called Boeing to find out exactly what their planes were made of and how fast you'd have to be going to destroy the Pentagon. And those motherfuckers wouldn't talk to me. What are they hiding? Absolutely, it's calling Boeing to ask that question. Is it a bit like calling up the school of Sandy Hook and asking for detailed plans of

emergency evacuation routes? Yeah, that's how you know, and they'll call the police. Trust me, trust me, they will. Trust me, they'll do that. They'll do that. They'll do that. And you won't be allowed back in America again. Honestly, it's really bad.

Really bad. Just as a production note, this is the point at which my duty as a guest on your podcast exceeded my interest in continuing to watch this video. The only reason I carried on watching from here is because I've already booked the train in the hotel and you needed me to handle a hostile British crew. Wow, right. Yeah.

All right. Somebody find Andy after the show is already there. I'm up for it. He'll take you down. He'll take you down. And then we kill people for fun. And then we get the iconic line of the movie. Yet feel doesn't burn that hot. Yeah, you're not there, that's.

You ever look at an old picture of yourself when you had silly hair or wearin a silly outfit, I had in this moment in the movie I had such a flashback to college days Eli being like it doesn't though. I mean my second year at NYU's drama school I know how hot jet fuel burns. I am finding the truth. If anyone knows about metallurgy, yeah. Well, and then also he says that the engines are made of titanium. This is only the first we get jet field doesn't burn that hot again, but he says the engines were made of titanium. They couldn't possibly have melted therefore we should find them intact.

Yes, intact seem to be very important with them. The melting point of titanium is way hotter than the jet field. And I thought, what's the melting point of the straw that your straw managum is made out of? I think you seem like the most important part of the entire thing. You see, Mars, there are two states of being there is vaporized and intact. Yes, yes, yes, very binary in that way. Yes, yes, very binary. He's not vaporized. The whole argument here, it's like a drunk boyfriend who's convinced his girlfriend

is cheating and he's just angry and she walks and he's like, oh, that's fine. Airplanes aren't daffy duck running through a door. Fine, but what about titanium? Where's my periodic table? Where's my period? How many dicks did you stock? Well, you're hiding my periodic table. Give me pure out table. Where's my period? Where, how many dicks did you stock? Well, you're hiding at a pure out table. Get me a pure out table.

And then they actually show us a pure out table with titanium, which does burn below the temperature. No, I'm a giant dutch. It does, especially when you smash it into a building at 500 miles an hour. And then they have the whole bit where they talk about how they had the wrong type of airplane debris. This guy is suddenly an expert on all charred airplane debris.

He starts going like, oh, this isn't a rotator from this type of engine. We're like, no, that's a different part of that type of airplane, too. It was really hard because it was hard not to think this is a really boring way of making a really offensive argument. Like, at least when you see people making offensive arguments elsewhere, they really go all out and say, it's the Jews. And start making caricatures of the Jews. I know this is like, this particular fan just looks a bit different. So it was the fuck off. Just give me something offensive. Well, to be honest, you have a higher standard

when it comes to shit like that. And I will say, you might know about this popular mechanics because this movie became so popular, made a reputation like a point by point reputation of it. And they only let one bitchy comment slip through in the entire thing. And it's about this section. And it's just one sentence at the very end of this section. They go through like, this is actually this fanbomb blah blah, nerd stuff. But at the very end, they're like, a layman wouldn't understand this. Yeah, Brian.

Dylan. And then we literally cite Nazis. In Dylan Avery's defense, that's the last time I'll be saying those words tonight, he apparently didn't know that the American Free Press was a neo-Nazi newspaper and website, so he extensively quotes from it throughout this entire movie. Yeah. And the thing is, it was founded by an anti-Semitic Holocaust anaya, and you see the article they're signing from AFP as they go through the points AFP makes.

And I've frees framed and had a look at it. And I thought, shit, Christopher Bellin wrote this article, I know that Nazi, I've talked to that Nazi. He's been a guest on B reasonable. I know that Nazi. So all of a sudden, oh, I know that guy. That's amazing. Look, I know you guys have fun listening to the show,

but watching Marsh's notes as he recognizes everyone and everything in this movie like, oh, then, Holocaust, Deniah, oh, he was lovely. Scott connection was terrible. And it took years to get him connected. It's like the kid you went to school with made good. You're like, oh, I knew that guy. It's not the exact fucking opposite.

So yeah, but the argument here apparently is that it wasn't American Airlines flight 77 that hit the Pentagon. Okay, where the fuck is American Airlines flight 77? And it didn't hit the Pentagon. What did that happen? It didn't get the Pentagon? What did that happen? It didn't roll as well. He flights 77 is behind you right now. Yeah. We have like all 20 to 2900 people come out behind us like yeah you guys thought they were dead this

all time but it does prove this by saying like like this individual piece of debris can't have been from that plan it's like June of five minutes ago when you said there were no piece of debris from the right yeah remember that like go fuck yourself remember you saying that yeah this is a like documentary a la the guy from Memento. So okay, now we turn from the debris to the building itself. And the main point here, they go back to that there should be a daffy duck size hole in the wall, because they're like, well, as you can clearly see, there's that word clearly again, when the airplanes hit the twin towers, it did leave a daffy dock shaped hole in it.

Yeah, the picture is very clear that I plane hit that building. And the Pentagon should look exactly the same. Obviously. Obviously. I'm sure if we found a way to bounce a 757 off the Hudson River into the 80th floor of that building. It would look similar to Pentagon. If the Pentagon was also 80 stories

and the trade centers made a limestone. Yes. They got their idea of what should happen when a plane hits concrete from watching all Wally, E. Coyote cartels. Yeah. Every time the road runner sends him smack into a wall, he just kind of flans and slips down.

While he coyote never gets fucking vaporized. Learn it, yeah, learn it. I mean, to be honest, I'm glad they stopped the Wale-Kahli references at that point, because at some point, people jump out of the towers, and I thought, they're going to look down and see the flaws not there, and that's when they fall, that's going to be the Wale-Kahli moment moment or or maybe you're like why didn't the people who jump out leave human sized holes in the country We really love you. I feel real bad about that joke too guys

I'm as uncomfortable with that joke as you are if it helped that was not in my notes that was just on Say where is my where's by so far a no further card And he's getting the train back home again. Jesus. Do you think the people who jumped out of the buildings on 9-11 went to hell for killing themselves? Important question, Eli. Explore this stuff.

Thank you, Eli. Let's jump off topic for that. I was just thinking about getting up to heaven and Jesus is there and he's like, now, you killed yourself. Jumper. So, quitter. There's also, it would be a lot. It would be a lot.

It would be a lot, not Jesus. And people like, this one of two questions. That was Jesus, I was Jesus just now. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, right. Well, we know none of the Jews jumped because they were there that day. We had a meeting.

So, okay, so this is also the part where they assume where they say that, you know, the only thing that could have made the whole that was in the Pentagon was a cruise missile. Like, that was the only possibility. They even show us a building that was hit with a cruise missile and they're like, looks exactly the same, huh? And we're like, no.

No, again, you're showing us the movie. We can see what you're showing us. You chose this. There's some very clear similarities in that bull building's are fucked, but the similarly end at that point. If you turn the camera around 180 degrees at that point, I guarantee you there's a clay Pentagon and a toy airplane and Dylan, everybody, making fake holes. All right, and then we go back to the, you know, but the eyewitness accounts don't all

say the same thing argument, which proves that no thing has ever happened apparently. I mean, they literally include people who mistook it for a Boeing 737. It was a Boeing 757. Oh, Christ. What pricks. What an absolute. What a bunch of idiots. But he's then saying it was a missile.

Right, you can't mistake a 757 for a 737, but you can mistake a missile for both. Wow. I'm not going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going very early criticism, people were like, where do you get these quotes from? And he was like, where do you get your quotes from? I have a calendar! Hahaha! Hahaha! Dylan Avery is a Supreme Court justice, not a lot of people know that. Hahaha!

Yeah, but now, yeah, probably. Hahaha! So, let's be less depressed and talk about 2900 people dying. Hahaha! So let's be less depressed and talk about 2900 people dying. There's also a guy who says he didn't see anything but he said it sounded like a missile rather than an airplane. I mean, Barry might be already quoted at one point the guy who said that he couldn't see the windows on the side of it. And we look at where that guy was, he was in Brooklyn.

That's a couple of miles away. I can't see the windows of an airplane, a couple of miles away. You're not the best. I wouldn't have tested him and he can get here. Yeah. And he also, one of my favorite arguments is he shows video of what happens when a car drives right up into an engine exhaust and it blows away. He's like, why didn't he blow all the cars that were on the roads off, guys?

Yeah, because he was 75 feet above the hood. And moving from that directly in the jet stream. Yeah. Hey, me again, I'm thinking you park on the beltway for a second and you blow some cars over to make it so that they won't, they won't know what's happened. Who is this? Oh my God.

We just did 9 11. Right. Heath. Ethan. He. I hate you so much. I'm never doing another one of these with you. Another 9-11?

Never doing it again. What about in July? Oh. Seven-11. That's the one they care about. Yeah, this was fun to watch. You know, when you go around to your relatives and they have really young children. Sorry, what?

And when they had young children, and the kids want to put on a show, and you sit there and you pretend like they're the most talented kids in the world. And everything they're doing is amazing. That's exactly the forever mind you have to be in to watch this. It's true.

So while you did magic trick, we almost didn't see where the ball went. It was. Yeah, pretty good. Also, then we get the, we implicate the FBI, he goes like immediately after the crash, the FBI collected all the surveillance video of the plane crashing into the Pentagon.

Why would they want that? Right, yeah, so I saw this, right? I saw this and it was like, why would the FBI take the tape that proved what happened when they were trying to prove what happened, why would they hand that tape? And I thought, and I wrote in my notes, because it would have taken them way too long to transcribe a flip book out of it.

The next scene they say, the FBI released a five frame video, and they did a flip book that an actual flip book, they released a flip book of this. A gift, a fucking animated gift. Yes. Well, I'm sorry, you seem skeptical, Mars. Could you explain why there was a dead spot on the lawn of the Pentagon some days later earlier? Yes. there was a dead spot on the lawn of the Pentagon some days later earlier. Yes.

This is the best. Dylan Avery thinks that not only did our government run a missile into the Pentagon as part of their plan, but they marked it out first. They had a guy on the lawn being like, all right, this is about missile shame. I wanted to know that like that guy drew the perfect lines and they got it slightly to the right and he's just sitting in his illuminati-jew office being like, really, that's off by like six feet. So, this is the thing, right?

Because they say, oh, it's a cruise missile, but also if you look at the lawn, there's a white line which is where the cruise missile hits. And I thought, do they normally need a white line for a cruise missile hit? Because they use cruise missiles in warfare, and that's gonna take away the element of surprise. Where you've got to have like two Navy Seals in Afghanistan, pretend to be landscape godliness, just renterting the lawnabits.

What are you doing? Landarts? We're playing Landarts. Honestly, it's all the rage in America. You guys will love it. Just trust me, this is beautiful. We did it at the Pentagon, and everything is so nice. And Londard's were playing Londard's all the rage in America. You guys will love it. Just trust me. This is beautiful. We did it at the Pentagon and everything is so nice. Hi, Saddam. So there's also the part where he says, well, it awfully suspicious that

of all the size of the Pentagon, they could hit the side opposite of where Donald Rums felt wise. First of all, no, not coincidence. Also, there's no opposite side on a regular Pentagon series. If you're wondering if he has a page and a half of why there's no opposite side of a Pentagon in his notes, he does. It's all just mathematical proof. It's really, really boring. I like the idea that there's a safe part of that building

during a cruise missile attack. Yeah. And then we, we spend an awful lot of time talking about like, gee, how in the hell could crashing planes into buildings make them fall down? Right? We have to really dive deep on. Yeah, it says the Twin Towers and World Trade Center 7

are the only three buildings in history that I've ever fallen as a result of fire. And that is said with a conference of someone who 100% has not Googled that fact. No. And it's like, you're in London. What about 1666? It was kind of a big fire and a half of London fell as a result of it. Dylan, I've come to London, learnt some fucking history.

Well, but then in a later version, he says, no steel reinforced. Golden shot, which is also bullshit. No truth, no truth, no truth. At least 11 that I found on the first page of Google. 1988, Naka told me tower actually. I had a fire. Wait, did I go into die hard?

I went into die hard again. I did a fire. Wait, did I go into die hard? I went into die hard again. I did die hard. And he tries to prove this by like five examples of bull things that had fires that weren't hit by planes that didn't fall down. And I just wrote my notes the other day. I burned some toast. House didn't fall down.

Jews did 9-11. Yeah, and then they mentioned that World Trade Center 7 suddenly collapsed. Like a French soccer player just... Saying that was a sudden... That started burning it 10 in the morning. Yeah. Since the first building went down. Saying that was a sudden collapse is saying, like, we suddenly have global warming. Yeah. Or saying, or saying, Heath is suddenly single. Ladies.

Ladies. Good have some more. You're always keep, please. He's gone. That's so mean. That's so mean. My mom loves me. He's looking to have some mean, that's still mean, my mom loves me. He's looking for a date to France tomorrow.

Guys. Anybody want to go to Paris for two days? Yeah. Yeah, give Keith a call. No one's saying yes. Nobody's saying it. Anyway, it's, I don't even say yes. 30 tickets to go with me.

It's always best when we're all talking at the same time, guys. So then everybody's getting five times the entertainment. So okay, so but to really hammer home the point, we now examine all that non-flammable shit that they make buildings out of. This is where he just names the amounts of things and proves it with math. Okay, I wrote down what he said. He said there's 200,000 tons of steel, 425,000 cubic yards of concrete.

40, you wanna know how many windows? You want to know how many windows? 43,000? Yes, 43,600 windows. That adds up to 668,600 for those of you who aren't ready to do the math quickly. How could 10,000 gallons of jet fuel knock down 668,600 things? You would need 658,600 more gallons of jet fuel.

Obviously. I think you're missing out a variable air heath because the effect of the jet fuel and the speed of the aircraft was also accelerated by the chemtrails they had on board. They did mention the chemtrails. They did mention the chemtrails. We all know chemtrails. They burn at a much higher. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's everyone knows that. Nobody knows how high they burn. That's one hundred percent true.

No one knows how high can't trust. Even, even loose change isn't talking about the fucking chemtrails. What does that tell you? They're in an issue. People, fucking loose change are in the chemtrails. They're in it. Oh my God. Part of it.

We've started. That's one chemtrail. So one more gallon, they wouldn't need one more gallon. Yes, one more. At least one more. Yeah, super powerful. But the actual math he's coming up with is how could 500 million tons of material fall down? Yes. You need so So many. And this is my favorite moment in the movie. He's now going to talk about the fact that these buildings got hit by planes, but it barely

grazed the tower. That is an exact quote at 8.62, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Hit the south tower between the 78th and 82nd floors, barely grazing it. Yes. And he's showing us a video of the plane smashing right into the fucking building. I'm watching the blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam,

blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam of Monty Park. Those planes were just a flesh wound, nothing more than that. The building was like, ow, fuck. That was, that really hurt.

And on top of that, though, like, if it hits in the corner, like, have you ever played fucking Django, man, the corner, that is really important there. Now, I want to play Django with Dylan Avery just pull a box up from the bottom the whole thing falls and he's like what the fuck happened he like he would play me he like he blame you you'll do it he would definitely play music I knew it I bloody knew it and then he's got the whole like he literally says, if you dropped a basketball from the roof of the building at the same time it fell, it would have fallen at the same speed, the speed of falling.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, he says, if Jettfield didn't do it, what did and I was like, is it the basketball? I'm a dude. You're saying, just you, Dylan Avery and his idiot friend on the top of the building. They got the basketball. All right. So, uh, what are you throw the paper airplane? I'm going to drop the basketball. I'll count to 9.8. And then when it's, we'll square that later. Yeah. What do you, what does square mean? Bam, there is a guy at this point as well who's talking about what happened. And he says about how he was pulling people out. And at one point he does say that the person, oh yeah, so I was dragging a person out

of the basement and their skin was hanging off. So I took them over somewhere. I thought, whoa, that guy is way too casual about someone's skin hanging off. Yeah. Check that guy's basement for like a haul and some lotion because that guy is way too casual about someone's skin hanging off. Check the guy's basement for like a hole in some lotion because that guy is way too interesting not being on people. Yeah, it's more interviewing men on the street who have just been traumatized by an explosion, two explosions, debris falling down, people leaping out of the windows and the fact that

they weren't able to exactly say it precisely what happens is apparently enough for us to discount the official story, the one with all the research and time. So you were dragging a woman out as her skin hung off her bones. Do you remember what angle the windows were hanging in? Is there a logo? Did you see a logo on the line? What was that logo? Yeah, I was a logo. I feel like the worst day of your life was branded. He says, at one point, one guy says,

I'll tell you that sounded like an explosion. It didn't sound like no building collapsed into me. What the fuck is the difference? What kind of life do you live? Where those two things are distinct in your mind. All right. So, at any point, sound that when the buildings fell, it looked exactly like a controlled demolition, which is followed by newscaster saying it looked kind of like a controlled demolition.

Yeah, the first one says it looks almost like a planned demolition and the second one says it clapped as if it was a demolition. It's like your own evidence is demolishing your argument. I just want to know what would newscasters have had to say that it wouldn't have made Dylan suspicious. Like, well, that looks like a duck taking off from a gentle ponds, Dave. It looks like my aunt that looks like an airplane crash into a building and fell down because of the fire. Yeah. Right.

And also to me, control demolition means series of geometric explosions starting at the bottom, working their way up. Yeah. Right? Isn't what the hell does it mean to him? Just falling in the direction that control demolitions also fall. Well, they do point out he does, he does have proof of the control demolition at one point.

And that proof is, it sounded like a control demolition. Well, that's true. And the way he proves that is showing you a video, is showing you a video footage of a sound file wave. So you say, oh, if you look here, that little spike was one of the explosions. Yes. No kidding. All right. So we're going to skip over the elevator shaft thing because I don't know

what the hell you guys call elevators here. So then we turn to the real experts, the firefighters that were there on 9-11. I am not going to make fun of the firefighters that were there on 9-11 except that one guy, except the one guy who immediately they says, but if you don't believe us, let's ask the real witnesses, and they show a bunch of firefighters and this guy goes, it was like fucking boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

That's it. Yeah, it says if you don't believe us, ask the firefighters, and I'll be like, don't ask the firefighters, if 911 happens, that sounds like a really bad idea, because like New York emergency services,

I fucking terrifying. I was in New York in July. I walked down the street. I was wearing a Spider-Man t-shirt. I walked past a cop and a cop said to me, hey, I like a t-shirt, give it to me. And I thought, oh, he's joking. I thought he's got a gun. I don't know if he's joking.

I'm going to carry on walking and smiling. What I love about, because at this point, I got to admit, the movie was making me kind of sad, you know, kind of 9-11-E sad. And then you see New York cops reacting exactly the same to 9-11 as they did to Pete Sirat, just like, what was going on over there? Maron! Yeah, but so he's trying to make the argument now that there were additional explosions, like explosions that explosives have been put in the building beforehand so that they could collapse each floor individually in case the 50 floors above it falling down didn't do the trick, right?

Hey, me again, doing 9-11 together, heath, it's heath. So we can either collapse it regular, you know, like just regular collapse it, but or I had an idea, we could just explode each level going down at the perfect right time. I love it. I think we need to have a meeting to plan that out. Do you do? Do you do? Not again. I love him. I think we need to have a meeting to plan that out. Do you do? Not again. All right, gentlemen, let's practice our bomb explosion.

OK, I don't think that this is actually a good idea. I don't see how this would be. Which we are definitely doing. Even though we've also hit the buildings, we've planes and missiles. Everybody got your buttons? Yes, yes. I got the word. I'm just going to cut this thing. This doesn't make sense. Okay. Go. One, two, three explosion.

No. No. No. You're four. I'm sorry, but the idea of being four really bothers me. Can I just say explosion when I push my button? You're the worst. No, no, we need to stagger the explosions. Wait, I'm sorry. When are we pushing the buttons? On your fucking number. Oh, I thought it was a countdown. Oh my god. Countdown to what? For? Yeah, that's why it bothered me so much.

Okay, this seems like it's going to get confusing and we're all going to like press the button at the same time. Yeah. Remember my original idea was we just do it regular. Yeah, yeah, it'll be fine. I'm sure it'll be fine. I'm sure it'll be fine. Do you want to rehearse again? Do you guys want to do it all more time? No the Qs? No, it's gonna be great

It's gonna be fantastic. Okay. I don't think it's gonna be great Make an incredulous joke in that one Fuck has my life come to I'm just joking that one, Andy. Absolutely, fuck, this is my life coming to you. Making jokes about 9-11 and going, do do do do do do do do do do do. Those are equally offensive in his mind. Okay, sorry.

I just, I don't understand. How would collapsing the building help with the plot? Why would the bombs, why would you need to pull up like all the way collapse it? Like, like Bush is going to invade Afghanistan. Everybody's going to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa. It was like three floors of like a few buildings. Fucking real life.

They didn't even kill any firefighters. This is America. We're very peaceful. Yeah. We're not just attacking Afghanistan. We are a pacifistic people to justify the whole detonations thing, the bomb thing. They show pictures of the lobby, which obviously in a mess, but there's no sort or anything like that. So they use the description saying it looks like a bomb has hit it. All the witnesses

say it looks like how are they supposed to describe it? If you see a building in that state, what can you call it other than looking like a bomb's hit it? I'm sorry, it looked as a violent internal pressure had catastrophically diminished the executive every structure, which allowed to infrequent in glass and every other decorative features. It was a remarkable surge of energy compressing the air and all did it look like a fucking bomb, it is. There is a lovely bit early though where he says everything is covered in dust and dust is a classic sign of a bomb having hit it. No, if that's true, I've got some pretty bomb hit shelves in my living room.

Right. Right. All right. Well, I'll tell you what, we are on the verge of jet fuel doesn't burn that hot part too. I'm going to need a minute before we get there. So we're going to pause for a quick intermission. But first, let me give it actually the hard sell here.

Did I do? No, no, no. Hold on. So we're going to pause for a quick intermission. But first, let me give it actually the hard sell here. Did I do? Did it? No. No. No. No. Oh, so it's a lot more than so damn much. It's a true. We said it was on the floor. Jesus. Did the US government pull off an inside job to take down the twin towers part of the Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania? Why the fuck would they do that? If they can do that, why have they never managed to do any other thing successfully? Find out the answers to these questions and more when we return for the bullshit conclusion

of loose change. And then he's like, let's roll out. That is so great. Right. Nice little heroism story. I think that's going to be good. It's too bad going around to see it. Yeah.

No. Yeah. No murder. Yeah. Yeah. Guys, guys, guys, what are you doing? Oh, hey, boss, I came up with a good line for our fake plane thing and then Dave, Dave tried to kill me.

He knows too much now. Yeah. Guys, guys, we're the bad guys. We don't have to kill each other for knowing too much. Yeah. Wait, we don't? No. Or at least you don't.

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who's going to share some of his expertise on how fucking hot jet fuel burns. I know. So a guy who represents the insurant firm that underwrites the inspection and testing of the steel is about to tell you about the steel. Yeah, okay. How good no bit.

How big surprise, though. Yeah, although if you look Kevin Ryan up and see what he did at that underwriting firm, it turns out he was in charge of water test. So he's not even to do with the steel. He's a water guy. And if you look up under writer's laboratory, she'll discover that that company doesn't certify steel.

There's no one in the company that does that. So yeah. But more importantly, if you look up what Kevin Ryan does now, he strives to be on B reasonable. Kevin, make me a call. Give me a call. I'm waiting. I'm just waiting. Well, and on top of that, I think there's this whole thing they were they say, you know, he published this thing in a Nazi fucking newspaper. He published this thing and then they fired him. Either he was wrong or it's all a cover up.

And then we spent some more time looking at the periodic table of the elements to talk about how hot steel melts. Talk about steel, the element. Yeah. Just madly scanning back and forth. I feel like it's the age. You guys got me the wrong table. It's one of the tricky ones. I also love he says that, uh, steel doesn't melt till 3000 degrees.

This is Fahrenheit. Fahrenheit. I'm in high Fahrenheit. How the, steals older than our ability to turn shit 3,000 degrees, right? Yeah, blacksmiths, obviously all blacksmiths were able to get to 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit in order to make a horseshoe. Oh, you don't need to make a fucking molten dependence. One of the other fission of the other. And you're focused on the fission instead of the blacksmith stuff.

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Oh, I see. What was the exact date that you left in 2001? September... Something. Hey! We all remember exactly where we were on 11th. What was the exact date that you left in 2001? September something. We all remember exactly where we were on the island of Heath. Well, I can tell you all the Jewish scientists took the summer off. They were so weird. The data said that the buildings collapsed and behaved just like a pyroclastic flow,

not a sudden collapse, which is what everybody would have expected. And what's the point of questioning the seismic reading anyway? Are we now questioning whether the buildings actually fell over? Who writes? I mean, is it that David Copperfield pulling his statue of libido? Who's that? Yeah. Hey, Eli's a magician, so he doesn't like it when I tell you how people do, how magicians

do tricks. You know how David Copperfield did that trick he didn't know no perspective no so the answer was the genius to move the statue of liberty the Jews did move the statue of liberty I know those Jews the last time Jews did physical labor. Right, I can only say that because you guys have a worse history with the Jews than America. So at this point, we never kicked all of a mound. Okay, so all right, now we're going to move on to the molten steel that was found a months later at the site except. Nope. Nope. Nope. No. According to the Nazis, it was. Yeah. And then okay, now we're going to dig a little bit further into this whole controlled demolition theory, which he says again, he goes in this video, you can clearly see flashes going off on the

floors before the collapse, which by which he means that as the 90th story collapses, you can see a poof of shit coming out from the 80th story window. Well, he just thought this by saying, do you still think Jeff feels blown up with a trade sentence? And I'm like, yep. Oh, sorry, you were carrying on from that. I thought that was a gentleman question. No, yes, yes, I do.

Yes, yes. So in his mind, was it a sentient blob of jet fuel because he still hasn't gone jet fuel plus plane? He's only going planes jet fuel. He hasn't done the whole package. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Separate incidents. So yeah, and then of course he, he, to show you these, these flashes, he says, as you can clearly see when I zoom into five pixels and I dim out everything else

and I highlight this little circle, you can clearly see a white pixel. Yeah, yeah. I saw it. And this is his way of saying that it's amazing that as this building is falling, there are explosions out to the side. What could that be? It's like, you can blow this guy's mind by blowing up an empty crisp packet by just like hitting out.

Yeah. When it comes from what happened there? Where are you putting up on? I'm in there. I'm on the succoridian. Yeah. What he's describing is literally how like a bicycle pump work Just dealing with a bicycle pump in his dick. Oh no, it's going down so it won't get me All right, so many colors now you're probably asking All right, so many colors now you're probably asking

What are you guys probably asking? Yeah, but he won't question on my mind at this point Yeah, so what he assumed we were probably asking it's not what we were asking was if there were bombs in the building How did they get there? Yeah? What I was asking was how many more times am I to have to freeze frame my way through an atrocity? And also why are my friends with Noah Heathen and those questions are very close together. Close and very close together. And he doesn't address those at all. So apparently, according again to Nazis, they were having blowing up the building drills

almost weekly, leading up to that. He says something about how they cut the security cameras. And they cut the power. Yes, this is my one of my, I think it's my favorite crazy lie in the movie. He's just like, yeah, floors 33 through 74, no power that day and it's like really nobody noticed that the floor is 33 through 74 had no power The morning of 9 11 guys just standing there waiting for the elevator. This is fucking I'm taking the stairs All the buildings falling on me of course it is

Oh, the building's falling on me, of course it is. One of those days, or did he mean after the airplane hit? Yeah, he's right, he's right. The thing is, well, he says that the video cameras on top of the towers on 9-11 were working and I thought, is that rare? Because what does he think those video cameras would show? Like, guys, setting off the bombs by hand and standing there as the towers. Right. I want to show on that morning. Just guys in burger with the black and white spy standing there taking selfies with the cameras. They're Jews. They got big. Oh, black and white spy. So yeah, they cut the security cameras, they did the building, blowing up the building drills,

they even pulled out all of the bomb-sniffing dogs. Well, no, I'm sorry, they had extra bomb-sniffing dogs and then they just dialed it back to the usual number. Yeah, they were abruptly removed from the sex. And it's like, if they weren't there normally, it's not abruptly removing them. It's just removing them. It's just being done. Yeah.

But I love how Indylin Avery's mind the evil plotters of 9-11 were like, look, I'm going to kill 3,000 plus people with 9-11, but I'm not killing some puppy dogs. But as well, they say that all of the security measures that are disrupted the twin towers have been going on for weeks, but the dogs are brought out on the sixth. So as I will hang on, were the dogs not sniffing the bombs the week before? Because if the bombs been going in for like two weeks, and they've only been out for five days, what were the dogs in on it? Yeah, when the dogs part of the conspiracy? Well, they planted the right amount of bombs

so that only an extra amount of the dogs in would catch it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe he thinks bomb dogs just means they're explosive. Maybe that's what it is. But he also says this attack was pulled off with military precision, which is why me and scooly and nick the one DJ figured it out. And also he points out at this point he goes like, and if it wasn't an inside job, why would

they have told it all the debris away so quickly? Like they were doing something else with Soho. Yeah, yeah, like he wanted, like he's like, why didn't we go through all the debris? And I thought, yeah, I want Dillon and Everie to have to go through every scrap of debris. Not only that, I went into sort it by size and color. I want you to really get to grips with what was left.

We don't need to sit through the debris to see what happened. Anyway, it's fucking obvious. Heartbreaking, obvious what happened. It's on film. But if in that debris, there are any cherries fucking Dylan Avery will find them. I promise you. Yeah. Yeah. Or if there's any corn. And then we get, okay, so now it's time to talk about Pennsylvania, the flight 93. This is the

one that went down in Pennsylvania, the one that didn't make its target. And what are they saying? They're saying the inside job included an extra plane that they were gonna shoot down the whole time. Like, I don't understand. I wanna be there for that planning meeting. Do do do do. All right, two cans of photo radio spray and power bars and fucking power bars and that is it! Excellent, gentlemen. That's everything we need for the most complex false flag ever. Sorry, did you say three plans or was it full? No, no, it was four.

What's the fourth plan, full? A spare plane. Did you just say a spare plane? Really? A spare plane? It's fine. It's fine. We'll just shoot it down over a field in Pennsylvania. Wait, we find what? Absolutely fine. What are you talking about? That's ridiculous. Well, we need to get rid of it. No, okay. So maybe we don't crash in the middle of a field then though. Like maybe we crash it in the ocean or like on another day. I mean, just I'm already going to be out and about on the 11. It feels like it two trips would be a bitch. Yeah. Oh, does it?

No, two trips is a lot. That's the, that's the sticking point. That's the second gentleman. Gentlemen, gentlemen. The second trip. Gentlemen will crush the plane in a field. We'll make up a highly specific and verifiable story about people taking it over, and nobody will think twice about how long it's been

since an episode of Incredulous has come out. Yeah. I'll dam you. LAUGHTER Why we need this bad play, right? It just feels like you're going through a lot of trouble for this incredulous thing. You don't get that sweet. Okay, okay.

This is a bad plan. We're bad at planning these. Organizer's skeptical conference, Andy. Give us another fucking free show, Andy. Nice view. Okay. That's where he draws the fucking line. I also love the mayor, they have this quote from the mayor of Shanksville, Pennsylvania, which is the nearest town to where it came down.

And um, and his quote is, I know two witnesses, I'm not gonna name them, but they heard a missile. They live in Canada, it was a camp, you wouldn't know them, but trust me, trust me. I've had some witnesses. Yeah, this is where they play various clips of people who have conflicting evidence of what happened on that day.

And they actually go to, like for reliable evidence, they go to a clip from Howard Sterns Shaw. Yes. From a caller calling into Howard Sterns Shaw, you know, presumably right after an interview with a porn star or an a civilian. And just before Donald Trump called into admit to yet another sexual assault, this is the evidence they're going for here. He goes at one point, he's like,

but you don't have to trust me. Let's talk to the eyewitnesses and I just so wanted it to cut to him, hold the microphone in front of a skeleton or something. I'm not. One of those eyewitnesses was a lady who claimed the missile was 50 feet above her, but hardly made any sound.

The narrator changed this to no sound for the film. But she also says it was why we know markings on it, so it was definitely military, just had that look. Did she mean I had a buzz cut? Anyway, her witness account says that she saw and explored her done explosion. Yet if you just Google her name, the first video that comes up, she explicitly says she didn't hear an explosion. She remembered that she heard an explosion two days later. It's worse than that. The text they have on screen, they have text from the eye witnesses, and then they got the next eye witness, and they scroll up all the text. And I watched that scrolling in freeze frame and pause again. And it's like some of that text actually says, as a guy who, one of the people they

quote, told the mirror that he saw the flight heading towards a ground of 45 degrees and they suddenly banked and hit the ground. And it's like your own video proves your argument wrong. You're just not relying on people actually watching it. Fuck you, you made me pause your video and read this. And it wasn't even moving fast when he saw it. Yeah. Yeah, so then they start talking about how the FBI moved in on flight 93 and wouldn't

let anyone in. He says in the fucking movie, the FBI was treating this like a crime scene. A fuck was they do that? And he kind of makes a claim here that like there were enough plain parts around and then not enough people saw planes and like people still with their belt fashioned in the upright but like a thing in the upright position. And you just have to wonder, does Dylan Avery think planes like explode apart like they're in the Lego movie?

Like what? How much plane did Dylan want to see? What is his argument here? This comes up in awful lot, but he said this very little debris. So is he saying there wasn't a plane or there was a plane and it didn't crash? What the fuck is he even saying at this point? He doesn't make it clear at all. No, no, and we should spoiler alert, that's this movie, right?

Yes. It's an equation that stops right before it gets to the equals. There is no way to assemble all that we're trying to do it at platinum night. Nobody could do it. We couldn't assemble an idea that would like actually fit into all of the bulls shit at once, right? Then we cut to some text from Osama Bin Laden. Because look, if you can't trust Donald Rumsfeld, who can you trust? Osama bin Laden. The only more trustworthy source than the collars on Howard Stern apparently. Distrust everything the US government ever tells you. By the way, here's some text from Osama bin Laden. I want you to take it, Fizz, value please.

Yes, yes. Although I did wonder like, if if a Kavanaugh supporter saw this, do they have to suddenly become agnostic on 9-11? Oh, completely reports. Oh, no. No, no. Innocent man's life is being ruined over this now. And he hypnotized himself to do to think he had done 9-11. That's why he confesses on that video.

So right before we left, a newspaper actually interviewed Eli about the story that was going around in the right wing media that one of the Democrats hypnotized Dr. Ford into making the claim that she was sexually assaulted. There was a newspaper that had felt the need to debunk that and if you have not heard the broken spirit of the american press over the phone tune in this is the entire so someone who is done hypnotism would you say that that's possible

now yep that that Okay, are you drinking? I am drinking. Do you know anyone who wants to go to Paris with me? Okay, but seriously, just... All right, so many goes... When this evidence is presented to people,

you get one of many questions. Yes, yeah, I know that, yes. When you show this to people, you get one of many questions, like, why are you yelling? How did you get into my house? I was sick beat by Nick the one DJ. What did you just throw a smoke bomb? Why are you crawling away on your elbows? What are you doing? All right, so then we dive into the black box thing, you know, the black boxes from

crashed airplanes. They claim at one point that seven of the eight black boxes were not found. That's not fucking true. This is making shit up. But the ones that were crushed under 500,000 tons of building, they never found all the other ones they were recovered. Yeah, but they won't give them to deal with it. Yeah, it's not. Yeah. I mean, he does go to town on the black box thing, even going as far as to read out

the specifications of the makeup of a black box. He makes out that they're so indestructible, they're basically Wolverine's left testicle. That's how indestructible they are. It's like sold or sum up. When people ask questions about this film, I start reading off statistics about black boxes until they forget they asked any questions. And basically what he's doing here is. No, they're made of vibranium.

It was Israel and Wakanda. Who? So if you wrap the vibranium in at a man-team, then you're, that's because you've got to be able to. Where's my theory on a cable? Yeah. And this is also where he's like, oh, isn't it such a coincidence? Because one of the ways that they identified one of the the hijackers since they found his passport, right? And he's like,

oh, a black box gets destroyed, but a passport survives. And his actual words are a passport made out of a material known as paper. Maybe you've heard of it. It's from New York, straight in on the New York stuff. So, they're saying we planted a passport of a Saudi Arabian guy so we could invade Iraq and Afghanistan. Yes, that's exactly the plan. That was the plan. Exactly. Great double bluff again.

All right, and now, okay, if you recall your 9-11 history, you might recall that the people on this flight that he's saying never crashed in Pennsylvania or maybe crashed in Pennsylvania or was a missile, I don't even fucking know. Shut it down. But if you recall, those people, a number of them made cell phone calls from the plane. So now he has to explain away that evidence as well. This phone call stuff is really, really fucking depressing and really distressing. So they point out like in accuracies in people's phone calls. So for

example, there's one woman who says like, oh my god, I see water, I see buildings and they say, oh, it's as if she'd never seen the Manhattan skyline before. So well, or as if she never, you she never anticipated becoming a permanent part of the manhunt. That's probably more likely what's happening here. Right. Well, and that's the really fucked up thing is because you're listening to people who are about to die.

Yes. And then here in Dylan Avery go, this asshole here, am I right? He's even not even talking to his mom right. Yeah, there's a guy who like uses both his names, he's talking to his mom, so he's like, I'm Michael Marshall, mom. So when was the last time you talked to your mom like that?

So that, well, when was the last time I talked to him when I was fucking dying on that plane? Right. What is your argument that the FBI or whoever has perfected such perfect voice mimicry technology that they can make your mom think it's you, but they've forgotten how people talk to their mums and made them use more than that

and that's where they were on this. Fuckin' what? If they really wanted to simulate a phone call with your mum, it should have been like, yeah, hi mum. Yes, no, I'm just on a plane right now mum. Yep, yep, no, it's gonna hit a building mum. Yeah, love you. Yeah, no, I will call next week, yes, right.

Yep, bye. Sorry, sorry mum. Sorry sorry, I have to roll. It's time to roll, apparently. Mom, it's heath, it's heath. Oh my God. But he's right. He's then right. It's he then right.

He's then right. Your name's N-R-E. We did 9-11 together. And the thing is, they say, like, oh, they, but they could only do it for a short while, which is why lots of these phone calls are really short. Like, this one guy makes a phone call and then he stops really quickly and then he calls back and then he stops really quickly.

And the thing is while he's saying this, if you pause it again, you can see basically the transcript of the call he's talking about and he can get fucked because that transcript is basically where he says, oh, it looks like they've stabbed someone, I'll call you back. Oh, it looks like it was the pilot and he's dying. I'm going to call you back. And then he calls one more time and his wife says, oh, he says, I think they're going to land the building, land the plane somewhere. And his wife says, no, they've flown the plane into a building.

And that's probably what they're going to do. And he says, oh, in that case, we're going to try and stop this. I'll call you back. Because that's why the calls were short. He was trying not to fucking die. Right. Oh, fuck off. Well, it's my turn in words with friends.

Let me call you back once. I'm going to get an X on a triple triple. It's going to fucking kick us. Just calling your wife from the 9-11 planes. You sleep. No. These are great phone calls we have. And then we get this bit and this is quite fucking amazing where he starts to tell us that the hijackers still walk among us.

He puts up pictures of the hijackers and he's like, this guy, this hijacker, works at a such and such factory and wherever. This guy works at a library and wherever. And apparently this comes from the fact that it never occurred to him that two Muslims could have the same name. Yeah, yeah. He introduces this by saying, the funniest thing is, nine of them are still alive. And I thought, that's an odd definition of what constitutes funny. And then I thought, I'm currently on a panel taking the piss out of a national atrocity. I have not got a good barometer for what is appropriate comedy. Quit pointing that out, man.

And he's fired. He's sending everything down. There's even a point where they're talking about the terrorists. He's like beforehand, they stayed at such and such a hotel, which is right next to the NSA. What the fuck is that? So the NSA is in on this, but they can pay for all of the buildings in the air place. They just wanted to want to pay for a lot of bus fare.

We kind of felt the taxi expenses. Yeah, that's not going to happen. This, yeah, want to be there when they're checking those guys in though. Really, right? Nick Stort. You don't think that this is, oh, they sent a pizza. That's nice. Thank you, guys. I also love that Robert Mueller made a little cameo in here too. Yeah, it was like when they show celebrities before they were famous. I know that guy. You're right. He went on to be Cliff Cleven. Lee in order to Caprio when he's doing commercials, Robert Mueller when he wasn't our last hope to stopping Satan. It's fun. No. But I love that even that Robert Mueller is so awesome that he even shows up as the voice of reason in loose change, right?

Because they come up and they're going like Robert Mueller said they might have been using fake names. That's it. Like there's no argument back. He's like, no, I didn't think of that, but you might as well get fired by the movie. All right, and then we have one more big piece of evidence we've got to deal with. He talks about the, you know, the videotape where Osama bin Laden admits that he did 9-11 that we've all seen. That was a fake Osama bin Laden you see and we can tell because if it was the real Osama bin Laden it would have been high death he was a high death kind of

God yes yes in a movie full of two frames filled with one pixel he goes guys I don't want to be this person but this quality video is kind of shit. The thing is, well, they show that it's not the real Assamabin Laden, because they take a still from that video and they put it on screen with like four other pictures of Assamabin Laden on the screen, and it looks like the weirdest remake of the Brady Bunch. But Alice is still in there, it's still the maid, she's still there. And also, and also by the way, as you may have guessed, all pictures look identical, except one is moving, right? That's it. And then he starts going like, as you can see,

this guy's wearing a gold watch and a gold ring. Not only is that anti-muslimmer, is that against the rules and muslimness, but also the FBI report doesn't say anything about him wearing a watch. I looked up some more videos, sometimes he wears a ring, sometimes he wears a watch, sometimes he doesn't. A bit like the producer of this film who sometimes has his finger so far up his ring. But he looks like he's digging out a fucking bullet. Or ought to be at least. I love the idea that the way you identify a Sam Ben Laden is just by not by not what is on the FBI's website. Well, this guy looks a lot like him. Yeah, he's got the beard.

He looks an awful lot like it. Oh, I hang on, hang on. Does the website say he's wearing pants? Oh, no, this guy's wearing pants. Let him go, guys. Let him go, boy, this doesn't mention pants anywhere on the website. And then, okay, so we get that quote, and then he comes and he goes, you know, I know it's hard to believe that I'm not full of shit.

Yep. Dot, dot, dot. Oh, you had no follow-up? That's not what you're done and cut. And they cut. Well, he goes, I know it's hard to believe that the government would kill 3,000 people, but once you start believing it, it's easy to believe. Yeah, yeah.

Once you just accepted, the only thing to do is just accept it. So this is why I think it's tricky for us to argue with these people by being reasonable. So the only thing you can do is to be even more unreasonable. So when you talk to someone who's a 9-11 truth, they're like, oh, you know, the government did it, or there were never any planes, it was a missile, you got like, what, you believe there were ever even towers, wake up sheep, or never any towers there, Jesus. Wake up and smell your insurance, scam. It's the only way. Beat them at the wrong game. Talking of a, be reasonable. Did anybody hear, listen to that episode with Lee Rebello? Yeah,

this was worse. Watch it as far's worse than the benchmark episode of the Leo Rebello. On the other hand, I did get to hear the narrator suggest we should all be heroes, like the victims on flight 93. And the weren't any, of course, right. He responded to let's roll with a final fight back the exact situation he said didn't happen just moments earlier. Yeah, right. He says 93, 93, that's all bullshit, but we should act like those fictional, yes, but wait, hold on, hold on, wait a minute. And that's it, right? That's where the movie ends. Like in his, it is pre-release stuff. He says, we don't, this is the director Corey Rowe. We don't, we don't ever come out and say that everything

we say is 100%. We know there are errors in the documentary, wait for it, and we've actually left them in there. So people will discredit us and do the research for themselves. Teach the controversy. Yeah. It was wrong on purpose. The only person that's left is Allah. You've got to leave an error in that because the only perfect director is Allah. There you go.

Pocket sans. The documentary. And then there's also this, like, this is after the movie, but it comes up, like, for more information, check these websites. And they're all like my favorite. PlaguePuppie.net. You can buy it. It's available. Yeah, I checked as well. I checked as well. I checked as well.

It's available. Oh, so it doesn't mean nothing. One of the most widely distributed films in history. All right, guys. We're in on this. We're going to buy all of those websites. Awesome. We've got this awesome.

All right, so to close things off tonight, I have a question that's plagued people since this movie's debut. The filmmakers have never explained why the movie is called loose change. But since there's such big fans that are drawn conclusions based on insufficient data, I figured we could explain it to you once and for all.

So, fellas, why is this movie called Loose Change? Oh, well, as you all know, this was crowdfunded by Dylan Avery and he was told that Big Issue wasn't a good name for the movie. When would Loose Change instead? Movements, when we're loose change instead. Because loose change is the lowest version of value. It's what you task to a homeless person to feel better about yourself when you're drunk walking to the taxi rank. Yeah, yeah.

I think it's because when you point out that this movie is full of shit, the filmmaker will just loosely change the contents of the film to hide those details and show something else entirely. That's what it is. All right. I'm thinking it's because when a building collapses of natural causes, a bunch of coins shoot out like Mario got hit by a gumbop. And we're going to take a quick break from the live show because while that doesn't for our review, a loose change, it's not gonna do it for the episode. Just yet we still need to I don't know, tickle your fancy for next week. So Eli,

tell us what's on deck. A funny thing happened on the way to the moon. Oh, good. I'm going to do a guy buzz Aldrin. Okay. All right. All right. Awesome. So with that to look forward, we're gonna bring episode 165 to a merciful close. Once again, a huge thanks to Andy Martian, all of London, especially the parts that came to our show. Also, perhaps even huge, thanks to all the Patreon donors that help make the show go if you'd like to count yourself among their ranks. You can make a perhaps a donation of patreon.com slash God awful. And thereby earn early access to an ad free version of every episode. You can also help us to them by leaving a five store review on iTunes and by showing the show on all your various social media platforms. And if you enjoyed this show, be sure to check out our sibling shows. This gave the gay theest citation needed and the skeptic right available on iTunes, Stitcher, and wherever else podcasts live. If you have questions, comments, or sit-em out of suggestions, you can email GodoffemewiesToGmail.com. Legal services for this podcast are provided by the offices of P.N.Rutoras, or Theumson who's written and performed by Ryan Slotnikov,

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This is it. Eli eventually didn't believe this movie anymore. The 9-11 mayor of New York, Rudy Giuliani, went on to have a glittering career in politics and the law. Andy Wilson has spent 17 years thinking these attacks had the mother night from November. Thank you ladies and gentlemen. How about you, Heath? Are you ready? I should have known better than to sit there, too, with you guys next to each other again. I keep making that mistake. The preceding podcast was a production of Puzzle and a Thunderstorm LLC, copyright 2018.

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